S1 - Ep 372 - Pietermaritzburg - The Town Hall has a Breathtaking Design!
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- Our trip to Pietermaritzburg was an astonishing experience. We had heard about the city's stunning historic buildings, but witnessing them in person was truly unbelievable. The Town Hall left us in awe with its breathtaking design, and the old station, which we initially thought had succumbed to destruction, surprised us by standing immaculately-preserved. Walking along its platform was a delightful experience. Spotting the sign for Scottsville Racecourse excited us, prompting a visit to witness the immense stretch the horses cover during races, a truly mind-boggling sight. The following morning, amidst dealing with a flat tyre, we felt compelled to explore the old jailhouse where President Nelson Mandela had spent a night following his arrest. #DustBugs #adventuretravel #southafrica #southafricavlog #travelongravel #kwazulunatal #pietermaritzburg
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I lived in Pietermaritzburg for 45 years. So glad that you got to visit and enjoy the city.. It looks even better in the Spring. Great work guys. You are awesome
Thank you, it is a beautiful city. Loved the buildings. 🚗🏛️
The hall in the City Hall (there are a lot of offices etc surrounding it) also boasts one of the largest pipe organs in the Southern Hemisphere and, whether by design or accident, also has near perfect accoustics. Musicians, be they classical, jazz or whatever, love performing there. Needless to say, I have enjoyed many performances there including the Dutch Swing College Band which was A-May-Zing!!
It would have been great to see it inside. Thanks for the info. 🚗🏛️
Beautiful city, with beautiful architecure of the old days, Midmar Dam with the historical museum, Howick falls and more.
What we managed to see of the buildings in the city, were absolutely incredible! 🚙🏛️
Hi guys very historical city loved the old architecture especially the town hall also a southern hemisphere world record holder. Great to see the swimming pool still functioning. The Royal agricultural society show grounds stunning and the biggest in SA. How fantastic to be in the school grounds just as they were having a competition definitely some Bokke in the making and of course the tuck shop .Sonias described the huge tree perfectly Lord of rings! The old station I think is the best I've seen absolutely stunning the glass atrium amazing plus statue of Ghandi .loved the racecourse massive stand and the posh seats great to see MOTHS Hall with the second World War tank and field cannon slowly dieing out in the UK. The Preparatory school and church amazing. The drive up the hill had a English vibe until the sunset and pàlms accommodation as usual top notch loved the views from the deck. We'll done changing the wheel ( I suggest a electric one that fits in car socket) loved the tyre place friendly guy plus tyre repair efficient! . The old prison was sobering especially the solitary cell also to gentlemen who changed history where there amazing loved the history about the name eye opening and interesting video thanks for taking me along cheerio till the next one
My mouth dropped at the sight of that Town Hall, it is an incredibly beautiful building! 😍🏛️ And Pietermaritzburg certainly doesn't have any shortage of those red brick buildings, which we've up to that point mostly associated with old railway buildings. Interesting to read that you also don't see many cannons and such around anymore. It's the same here, that's why we're always so excited to happen upon them! It's only been the second flat tyre we've had on 20 trips and I'm totally cool with a manual jack. So ironic that no flat tyres so far on gravel roads, but one in a city and another in a campsite. Yay for gravel roads! 🚙😁 The station and the Town Hall had to have been two of the highlights of this crazy busy city. I'm so glad you joined us.
I miss Maritzburg a lot. Left in 2002 and never been back. But frequently look for information on how it is doing. Thanks for visiting and sharing!
Love watching your programmes from Plymouth here in the UK, brings me such wonderful memories of growing up in RSA, from driving down the N3 to Durbs on our once-a-year holiday to peaceful little towns in the Karoo, a welcome relief from all the negative news going on around the world. Thank you, keep them coming. 🤗
Thanks for watching and we will bring you many more. 🚗🛣️
I remember going on a long field trip with my school in about 1975 to Wagondrift dam, we stopped in Pietermaritzburg on the way back, and went into a museum there. I'll never forget the impression it made on me. I also remember a song that played on the radio in the 70s, about Pietermaritzburg, but for the life of me,i cant find it now. Love all the brick structures there, especially that train station!
It sounds like you have some very fond memories of this city! 😎 There is no doubt that the red brick buildings there are incredibly beautiful, we were in awe! 🏛🧱 I was super happy to have seen the beautiful station building too! 🚉
Thanks so much for showing the city where I grew up ❤️💙 NP ...nice place, nice people. We had homes in Frances Staniland and Montgomery Road...the best time! We had to leave 24 years ago in search of work, but PMB is in my heart always. Art in the Park, CG Joliffe swimming pool, The Railway station, Nestle factory, The Oval...Sunday cricket and lovely lunches, and attending their market afterwards. Queen Elizabeth Park. I worked in NBS building 😁and my father at Connex travel, in the building next door. Not to forget Woody Woodburn rugby stadium and the now distant Golden Egg restaurant. 🧡
I was born and still live in PMB. Umgungundlovu, meaning the place of the Elephant. 5 generations of my family are from PMB. I know the place like the back of my hand.
It was nice to see it from a visitors point of view.
You passed a few places of interest in your video.
The old St Annes Hospital which is abandoned. just passed that wall in Loop Street.
The old Cricket Oval In Alexandra Park
The best view of PMB in Villier's Drive.
Duzi Bridge
Comrades Wall
a walk down Church Street
The Grave yards on Commercial Road
and what was the Royal Natal Carbineers just off Commercial Road
Thank you for making me remember the good in PMB
I'm glad you guys really enjoyed yourselves in the CAPITAL CITY of KZN ❤❤❤
It was so much fun. 🚗💒
This is my home town!!!, It's so cool to experience it through a visitors eyes. I've been watching the channel for a while and I never thought you will come to this side of the world
We are happy that we could surprise you. Keep on watching. 🚗💒
I live in PMB and I really enjoyed your video. Seeing a visitor so impressed with our city is refreshing and encouraging. Thank you!
I enjoy all your videos, from small Karoo towns to the centre of Durban, but this one was particularly nice. My wife went to Siembaba, then Gert Maritz and finally Voortrekker and we still go to Pmb quite often to visit family
Thank you for watching. PMB is a beautiful place with magnificent buildings. 🏛️🚗
Wow..those old buildings are magnificent, it is just great that they are still standing. And that beautiful functioning railway station! Somewhere somebody is doing something right. Thank you for showing us PMB.
You're right, there was no shortage of beautiful buildings in this city. And the red brick ones were the most beautiful of them all! 🏛️🧱 The station was incredible to see, I was hoping the whole time that a train would come rushing through. 🤞🏻🚉 Thanks for hopping on board in PMB! 🚙😁
Hi you two! Thank you for taking me on this sundown trip around PM! It is such a well equiped city. From a swimming "bath"to a prison with a "reception" area! The buildings really are impressive. It has such rich history, even only being there brings it back. Your overnight was quite fcosy with its garden and view. AND the cuppas!
Time for me to get off this tablet, hoping we will have shed our load by tomorrow.
I'm ready for the next trip already.
Keep safe!
Our accommodation was cosy. Seems the loadshedding is going to keep going for a while. 🚗💡
Lived in Maritzburg in 1979 right next to the airport and was woken every morning at 6a.m by the Jet taking off. Also watched the sky divers land almost in our garden. Only good memories, wish we were still there.
I grew up in the red brick house diagonally opposite the prison. 11 Burger Street. You guys drove past it. Such nostalgia to see it again.
I lived in PMB for a few years many years ago. It used to be a beautiful city. So much of it is now a slum.
I could definitely see that it's a beautiful city. We didn't venture into most parts because I simply didn't feel comfortable filming out of the window as I usually do in every place we visit. What we did see, was spectacular though. That City Hall Building blew our minds! 😍🏛️ Thank you for coming back with us to a city you must know very well.
When,, I came for 1 day in 2003,,, it was beautiful
I am super impressed with the little Quid - I think Renault SA needs to sponsor you guys a new one - and of course pay your accommodation
Well don to you both for dedicating your time and efforts to bring us these wonderful video. May you continue to be blessed
We love the Kwiddie too! 🚙😍 We enjoy travelling so much and can't wait for every fifth week to roll around so that we can hit the road again! It makes it so much more joyful that we know folks like you enjoy it with us every step of the way. Thank you for watching our videos, we really appreciate that!
This a nice idea Renault sponsoring the channel!
Here in Brazil, Renault Kwid received good reviews when was launched, but after some years, several vices was arised, like for example steering wheels unbolted from car while the driver is driving the car or the car axles was unbolted from car during use too. I don't know if Kwid available in South Africa is made from Brazil and exported to SA.
The house of your B&B was my aunt's home until I was 6 years - my second home. Thank you for showing so many memories. It is a pity that you didn't show the exquisite buildings of Town Hill Hospital.
Wow born and bred maritzburger girl. Flying from ozz on Thursday to go home visiting. A refresher course on finding my way home! 😂Memories galore.
Hi Sonia and Curtis,
Thank you for showcasing this special city, indeed a important place from my family history point of view. My ancestors arrived from Germany, went to Cape Town for a while to join his wife’s family for a short while, she was a member of the von Landsberg family. Then the family went to Durban in the Mazeppa in the 1830’s where the main immigrant settled in Pietermaritzburg in 1939. He was a “ziegeleibezitter”, meaning the owner of a brick yard together with his one son. They were granted a large piece of land in the then newly laid out town where the two established the large brick factory, as far as I know this is still in existance at the foot of Town Hill. (Would be great if someone can confirm, not sure what the factory is called.) He and his eldest son supplied almost all of the brick and tiles used to build most of these old buildings that you have so kindly shown us. Carl August was an architect and both were builders and between them designed and built many of these historical buildings.
The elder, Friedrich Heinrich was burried in the old cemetry in the centre of Pietermaritzburg, unsure if this cemetery is still in existence. (Again, could someone confirm). He had five sons, two went to Rustenburg, one to Heidelberg and one settled in Rhodesia.
If you ever plan to visit Rustenburg, I will be able to supply a lot of history of that city.
I have also endured a lot of pleasure and pain when running the Comdades. Cold starts for the down-run and much pain towards the end during the up-run, especially after Polly Shorts to the finish line. Brutal!
Thanks again and safe travelling.
Kind regards
Frans
Wow! That is very interesting. So, many of those red brick buildings we saw were made by your family. Thank you for sharing all that amazing information. 🚗🏰
Not sure if the brick factory is still there, but I bought the bricks from it in 2010 for the foundation of my house.
The cemetery is still there as well. It looks very old though.
I really love the commentary on your videos. Makes it all more interesting and enjoyable. Always hooked
Great video as always! Thanks for showing me parts of my beautiful province I didn't know.
Anytime! We got to see parts of your beautiful province that we've never been to before either. It's great sharing it with you! 🚙😁
Thank you guys ,I was glued to this video, spent my best years in PMB, now an expat in the UK, your lovely SA accents added to the beauty of this thorough exploration of my fave city. xx
Traffic horrific, buildings beautiful & LOVED the rugby. Curtis i was right next to you shouting as well , reminded me of shouting @ my sons matches in days gone bythank, 🏈🏈🚗🚗🚗 you once again
It was so much fun watching the young guys play. Glad you enjoyed it.🚗🏈
My town😊. Been watching far away towns on your youtube channel. Never thought I'll see my town on your channel, let alone kzn. Yes N3 is a worse road. Constantly under construction. Enjoy my town. I hope it's clean 🙈. Subscriber🎉
The Royal Show had its last stand there this year. They are moving out of town.🙃
Oh, no! Those are such magnificent facilities, I hope they're put to good use and maintained. 🤞🏻
PM also called the azalea city. It use to have the prestigious boys high school "Greys". I used to travel there to buy shoes from Eddels Shoes for Edgars 30 years ago and we stayed at the beautiful Hillcrest Hotel.
Interesting that PMB is known as the Azalea City, we had no idea! I note they bloom in spring so we didn't get to see them during our visit. It must make for a pretty picture. 🌺👌🏻 Your association with this city goes quite far back, it must've changed a lot in 30 years. 👠👞
Thanks so much for going to PMB it hasn’t changed much since the early 1980’s when I was last there apart from the decay… it’s locked in time… I played a lot of sport in that town.. former Natal Schools and Junior Springboks… it might interest you to know martizberg used to be called sleep hollow as it sits in the bottom of the valley below Hilton. I remember as a young boy going from that station on the overnight train to Jo burg to attend the 1979 Kyalami Formula One Grand Prix.
Thanks for another great video. The Old Jail looks really interesting, it's added to my must see list, which is getting longer by the day.
Stay well and drive safely. Cheers from the UK.
I love your excitement. Thank you for digging deep for little details such as the name origins and buildings. Really interesting.
Our excitement can never be tamed! 🚙😁 Maritzburg was quite an intriguing place to visit.
Great video! We can't believe that you were here in PMB!
It is truly a beautiful place. Just love the old buildings. 🚗🏰
This should be the Cape because we love Robby here
The N3 is the main route from the busiest harbour in Africa to the interior of RSA, hence the volume of traffic. And we all know the majority of truck drivers don't abide by road rules. Kind of like taxi drivers.
Yup, I'm cool with busy, but the driving in these parts were particularly wild, which made filming rather challenging. 😨🚙
Your enthusiasm is so great!!!!!!
Another town I have only been through. Wow! That city hall building...words fail me! They dont build like that any more. Wonder what it looks like inside, probably all modernized. Pity the traffic is so heavy. I love the streets lined by old trees. So glad you found the station. But what a magnificent building it is. Looks like it is still running? Now Ghandi is about the last person I would expect to encounter there. I feel like a train will come thundering through any moment.I must say, you guys have been very lucky with tyres considering some of the roads you have taken. I share Sonia's opinion on horse racing. Nuff said! Enjoyed the visit to the Moth hall. Glorious sunset! Other beverages....ahem...toe, gun hom n biertjie na al die verkeer en stres! Ah, nothing starts the day like changing a flattie. Ungundgundlovu was Dingaan's home wasnt it? Where Piet Retief and his guys got killed. The prison was fascinating, but chilling at the same time.
That City Hall was unbelievable, it blew our minds! 😍🏛️ The station definitely looked operational to me, although I saw no trains running at the time. I shared your hope of one coming thundering through at any moment! 🤞🏻🚉 You're right, we have been super lucky with tyres and our record of none on a gravel road still stands, which I'm very proud of! 🚙😁 Sonia has always been cool with me and my beloved beers in the evening. It's a long-standing part of my evening routine when we're on the road! Cheers! 🍻 I'm impressed with your history knowledge, it was indeed the royal capital of Zulu King Dingaan who reigned from 1828 to 1840 and also known as Dingaanstat. 👑 I had not the foggiest idea!
@@DustBugsTravel I remember from Std.3 history. We did a lot of Voortrekker history in them days
That's a different uMgungundlovu. Pietermaritzburg Station has a memorial to Gandhi because he was thrown off the train in Pietermaritzburg for refusing to leave the 1st class carriage
Wat een geweldig trein station, je zou toch direct een plaatsreservering willen maken voor de eerstvolgende trein 🚂! Prachtig dat het houten interieur van vervlogen tijden bewaard is gebleven. Hetzelfde geldt voor de Britse city council, van een grandeur zoals alleen zij dat kunnen en gelukkig dat het in al zijn glorie van rode stenen nog fier overeind staat. Bovenal fijn dat de lekke band niet tot al te veel overlast zorgde en vooral grappige beelden opleverde en Curtis en de garage medewerker aan het werk 😅. En die toetjes …. die zagen er alle 3 heerlijk uit! Na een grandioze Frans Algerijnse maaltijd zoek ik nu mijn bed op. Morgen nog 1 dag Reims, waaronder het museum bezoeken waar de overgave van de Duitsers plaatsvond in 1945. Daarna weer de drukke snelwegen berijden terug naar 🇳🇱.
That red brick building is beautiful. You must enjoy the museum and travel home safely. 🚗🏛️
Over the years I also found it a problem to drive in and around Durban - the trucks the roads and attitused
was sometimes not so good.The old buildings are stunning and so many of them. The City building reminds me
of the one in Durban. Beautiful around the show grounds. Interesting how they bundled the scools together
but it make sense. So sad the beautiful old building who appeares to have burnt down. Wow the old station
is a stunning buildng with such beautiful achitexure. Scottsville is huge but so nice to see inside.
The old prison is stunning and such a rich history buried there. I love Piertermaritzburg it is a beautiful place
full of history. Thanks for this trip it was very nice and relaxing. My seat is booked for the next one.
The roads and driving were really rough and not something that we're used to where we live, as you very well know! 🚙😁 There's a huge difference between orderly busy and chaotic busy for me. The Town Hall building was just magnificent, we were blown away by how big and beautiful it is. Just loved that building so much! 🏛️🧱 The old station was a very welcome surprise and good to see how well it is being maintained. 🚉 It was our first time visiting a racecourse and I must say the condition of the track looked fantastic. 🐎 We'll pick you up again on Monday! 😁
After 60 yrs I still recognize much of the better, older buildings. Who takes credit for them.?
I'm not sure what you're asking. 🏛
I travelled from Durban to Pietermaritzburg in 2003,, sm valley of 1000hills,, I found it so good
some of my Greytown cousins referred to Pietermaritzburg as Maritzburra - that was more than 50 years ago - and now after all this time i hear it again -
Thats my hometown. Our potholes and roads are the worst as is our Msunduzi Municipality 😢
Btw the Lighthouse Chapel is the chapel where Jonty Rhodes was married 1st time around. Thanks for being so positive about our City.
My hometown where I grew up in. We always called it sleepy hollow. A very quiet capital city back then.
A beautiful town hall.
Curtis and Sonia you have to go too The town Dundee. Kzn.
The biggest open air museum in SA.
Talana museum.
Angoboer war.
Battle of Talana..
Heart of the battle fields
Boers
British and the Zulu kingdom.
Beautiful and historic Dundee high school. Some beautiful buildings.
Safe travels.
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Thank you for the info on Dundee. 👌🏻This trip was about a month or so ago and we visited quite a few more places in KZN before we headed home. The ones we didn't get to, we may include on a future trip back to the area. 🚙😁
It is good to see you noticed Gandhi's statue!❤😊
My home town and was born there at Grey's Hospital and grew up in Pinetown.
I read somewhere the reason, from Durban, to Pinetown, to Camper Down, to Pietermaritzburg, to Howick, to Boston, to Bulwer ending in Underberg , Why these towns are relatively close to each other is because they are 1 days Trek in an Ox wagon from each other
how true this is I dont know, maybe someone can confirm if this is correct
How interesting! I didn't know that. So from Pietermaritzburg to your neck-of-the-woods would be five day's trek. I'll remember that for a future trip! 🐂😁 It would indeed be cool if someone could confirm that. Thank you for sharing that info.
I enjoy watching your Channel..you were in pietermaritzburg 2 days ago and my town is in the midlands called Richmond about 30km before pmb...would like e if you done a video for our town
Time to go to Giants Castle!❤ Where I’m from..🙂 Alexandra Swimming Bath was where we used to have inter-school galas!.
I always enjoy your videos. Sadly you missed Maritzburg College, and particularly Clark House (incidentally one of the best schools in SA). Also the Oval and cricket grounds very close by. Of course Maritzburg is famous for it's Jacaranda Trees, particularly when in flower.
Thank you for the great video. I grew up in PMB from 1961 to 1976 when I relocated to Zululand. You really need a week or two to see more great buildings you did not visit. Comrades House, the Botanical Gardens, Eddles Shoe Factory, (my grandfather worked there most of his life as the factory manager), Allison's Saddlery building, Fort Napier, and Alexandra Police Station would have blown you away. The Imperial Hotel, and so many more. The excellent PMB schools are Maritzburg College, St. Charles, PMB Girls High School, St. Johns, and Maritzburg Collegiate. Unfortunately, the Royal Show is moving to a new location. There are so many more beautiful buildings to visit but I know your time is limited. Thank you for taking me back in time.
Thank you for listing the places we 'missed'. It's never our intention or goal to visit every single place in any town we get to, we simply don't have the time for that. We see what we can see and we move on. That's perfect for us, there are just too many places to explore! 🚙😁
Thank you for listing the many interesting buildings of Pmb. An excellent memory jogger - I'll keep it for my next visit.
I understand and I am happy you made a safe journey through PMB. KZN is not a safe place. Thank you for the great video.@@DustBugsTravel
That prep school went into is called "Cord Wallis" (all together, of course). It struck me as one of the friendlier of such schools (nicer, I'd call it). Some of them are not automatically a good foundation for anyone good old Mother Nature hasn't given a good foundation already, but the Cordwalles kids struck me as people who might live non-destructive lives after their training.
It's a pity you missed the psychiatric hospital next to Greys (although I suppose you need to be visiting someone to be let in there). It's a really beautiful old Victorian building, far enough back from the roads to be a bit more peaceful than the traffic makes a city like Maritzburg - the kind of place someone who's unravelling can have some hope of being restored in, given the right treatment, and the right turn of the cards. The friend I visited there loved the place - just the building, not the being in a state where you need professional help to survive. Let me leave the memories stuck at that point, then.
Thank you for the correction on the pronunciation of the school. 👍🏻 It was just too crazy to film and drive at the same time in this city, so we're entirely happy with what we saw in the time we had. There are countless buildings we didn't get to see and we're totally good with that, as always.
@@DustBugsTravel You're welcome. :-) Ja, anyone who's on the streets of PMB at that time of day who doesn't feel a very strong urge to escape right away is not normal. I think you saw a fair sample of the best the city has to offer. You saw the City Hall, for starters, and then those townhouses are some of the nicest there are.
The old city centre was made really nice in the 80's. It was full of characterful old buildings. Just shops and small office buildings, but it was all original and natural, like towns used to be before we copied America and gutted everything to replace it all with brutalist soul-crushers. The city council pedestrianized about three entire blocks, and put parking on the "outskirts".
It all went downhill in recent times, and shopping moved to these horrible Earth-anywhere malls we now go to for a limited choice of the same things over and over again, and nowhere to escape from that. (That might have been the plan? Get the customers nice and isolated, and then you can make their choices for them. At a big box store just like the one they have back home.)
Ja, anyway, at one time the old city centre was something to see, but not these days, I don't think. So you've seen it all and lived to tell the tale.
It's clear that the city has its fair share of beautiful buildings, but it's not easy for an out-of-towner to navigate. And I'm no stranger to navigating in towns big and small, so I don't say that lightly. I guess we're fortunate to still live in a big, yet smallish place, with a town centre, but also decentralised shops and malls which makes for convenience when in a hurry. It was good to experience KZN again and Pietermaritzburg for the first time and, for us that don't have an earlier version to compare it to, this visit will stick. 🚙🙂
Hi guys
Love KZN my family live just down the road in Hilton.
KZN reminds me off a rain forest in places .
One thing I’ve noticed is the churches are not so good looking than other parts off SA.
Safe driving guys be safe.
I went to school at Voortrekker. Primary and High school.
Interesting to see my town through a stranger's eyes. Sadly b the Royal Agricultural Show is moving their premises to Hilton.
Thank you for watching our video of your town! 🚙😍 It was certainly a very interesting visit and we were in awe of your beautiful buildings, as you most probably saw and heard! 🏛️🧱 I hope the showground buildings will be put to another good use and maintained in the fantastic shape they were at the time of our visit. 🤞🏻
@DustBugsTravel , apparently been bought by a developer who will create a residential, retail and commercial space. Don't know what that implies with regards to the old buildings there- hopefully incorporated in some way.
Curtis...You not the only one who battles on that N3. It's a horrible road and my nerves shot driving there too. Must be something in the water there cause drivers are reckless in KZN. I always tried to take the back roads myself. As you said maritzburra🎉so did I....lmao 😂😂
Love their town hall. It is one of the nicest I've seen. Been to a few Royal shows many years ago. Lovely trip this. So many memories
Yup, we've been on some pretty busy roads and have lived in some pretty big cities, but I don't think I've seen reckless driving quite like I've seen it on this trip. And that of course makes filming, stopping and driving slowly almost an impossibility. I'm so glad you agree and understand! 🤣🚙 It was an interesting visit though and we saw some spectacular buildings, which softened the driving blow quite a bit! 😍🏛️
@@DustBugsTravel did I hear Sonia correctly....You guys have done 50k km in the last 2 years????
You did! 🚙😁 We've done a fair bit of driving through a big part of this beautiful country of ours. 😍🇿🇦
@@DustBugsTravel wowzer.....As you would say!!!!
That's wild man. Incredible just incredible. South Africa not small country thats for sure
Funny my late father won some money on that horse, back in the 70s.
I think the jockey fell off that year and the horse crossed the winning line first. If I remember correctly he won the next year. 🚗🐴
Pay a visit to Hilton.
So much rhetoric about 'the oppression struggle' in the old prison as if it concerned everyone. In truth it was only a few and it was only because they were allowed the privilege of drawing comparisons. As George Orwell stated .....
‘ “The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”’
i heard Western Cape want to have INDEPENDENCE
i fully support Cape Republic Independence including Northern Cape and Eastern CApe
I think that Pietermaritzburg is cleaner than other important South African cities.
Good to know! 😁🚮 I don't remember the city being dirty, but my eyes were on the roads and the traffic most of the time.
I travelled from Durban to Pietermaritzburg in 2003,, sm valley of 1000hills,, I found it so good