Michael Golden fostered an entire generation of comic book artists in the early 90's and his influence is still felt today. I have DVD's, books, anything that has to do with Golden and still could never get a idea of who he was but your TH-cam video is by far the best I have ever seen on this eccentric man.
Thank you so much. I spend so long on these and it's comments like this that really make it worth while. Golden is one of the unmentioned men who make up the DNA of the image founders and like 99% of the guys that they worshipped like Art Adams and stuff. I've spent years admiring Golden's work but it was really interesting getting to the bottom of his reputation and work behind the scenes. I'm so happy people seem to be enjoying this one, put a lot of TLC into! Thanks again for the kind words as well as for checking this out and especially for taking the time to leave a comment really helps out the channel a ton
Well thank you for your research of Golden. He is one of my all time favorite artists and especially the connected he has with the Gen X comic book artist and reader. You can tell his influence obviously with Art Adams along with McFarlane with that cartoon like style that didn't start taking shape over at Marvel until the late 80's and blew up in the 90's. I don't think later fans understand this but back when Golden was drawing The Micronauts NOBODY drew like him. It was the mighty Marvel way like Buscema or Trimpe or Romita and Golden did not fit the bill. Here is a good example, look at how Frank Miller was drawing back in 79 compared to his later years when he had more artistic freedom. That might be one of the reasons why Shooter didn't like his work.@@JerkComic
That means a lot. I spent the better part of 2 years pouring over everything I could find to try and put together the best and most comprehensive overview of him that I could. Was a massive fan growing up and getting to do this was super fun. Super appreciate the kind words, and especially you not only taking time to check this thing out but leave a comment as well, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Shooter's treatment to Golden seems to echo his treatment to contemporary fellow Micronauts artist Pat Broderick: "Jim Shooter had all but informed me that, in his opinion, my art sucked and that I would never get another raise there, regardless of how well my books were selling." Broderick has made known his liking of Golden's work
Great and thorough document, really enlightening. I had the fortune to see Mr. Golden in 1983 (I think) at the Houston comic con, where he spoke as a panel member of artists. He definitely came across as an arrogant and jaded person, saying that he disliked the comic business and actually discouraged any artists in the audience from entering into the comics field. This of course was hard for many of us to reconcile, especially seeing his work and finding it hard to believe that someone with such a craft disliked doing it. He also said then that he was doing graphic art and design more, and comics not so much. One thing that he said that was hard for me to believe was that he no longer did pencil layouts, and just started drawing straight into the page with ink. This flipped my wig then, thinking that it was either then sign of a savant, or a lot of hokum. Now I think that he was just doing a bit of self aggrandizement, in keeping with his snarky-ness at the time. I really loved his work on Micronauts, that i got from the spinner rack as they came out, and it influenced my ideas of form and composition greatly. Looking forward to seeing part 2!
First off, thank you so much for not only taking the time to check this out but leave a comment - means a lot and helps out the channel more than you know! As per Golden, yeah he definitely comes off as disliking the industry, because, well - I think he does. He never got the respect or treatment he deserved and I think he went through a bad stretch of self-aggrandizing and getting a big head that he didn't like and completely turned on the industry as a result. TBF, I also feel like Marvel is just a disorganized mess in a lot of cases and that teamed with the length it takes Golden to get stuff done it was just a recipe for headaches and heartache. And re layouts - if he said he didn't even pencil at all anymore, yup he was full of it. Now, bear in mind, the man's "roughs" are like gestural figures and by all accounts he'll spend a DAY thinking about what a page or image is going to look like, another one or two doing research and reference work, and only THEN put pencil to paper so that he doesn't have to "draw things twice". From everything I've heard he does ALSO work just like Kirby essentially printing a page out from his brain starting at the top and working towards the bottom or vice versa - complete savant level stuff that I don't think needs exaggeration...
Thanks so much! I tried to go a different route with this one and use a lot of hi resolution scans of original art - pleasantly surprised with the results for sure. I am totally self-taught as an editor so means a lot that I didn't just butcher this as well haha! Thanks for taking the time to not only check this out but leave a comment as well - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
This year has already been crap but I refuse to let it keep me down. I'm taking my life and this channel back, haha! I got three or four more episodes of this as well as a Danzig skull special for finish it off coming up and then I can't wait to move on and get to something new after all these months. Thanks for sticking with me and repping like a champ as always my friend - means the world! Hope YOU are having a freakin amazing new year and you and yours had an awesome holiday!
40:33 - I was unaware Heath was an influence on Golden, but the art similarities have always struck me. On Showcase Presents Haunted Tank, Heath’s b&w work looks a lot like Golden’s: explosions, tech, storytelling, etc. I’m still watching and listening to this epic episode, Jerk! Incredible effort. Thank you! 👍
Yeah Golden doesn't talk about anyone as being a big part of his work but both P Craig Russel and Heath pop up a LOT. I guess Heath was a major influence on his use of the brush which he tried to use almost exclusively for years. Was interesting to learn about as it totally tracks but I wouldn't have put it together myself either. Thanks so much for taking the time to check this out btw - means a lot to know people are actually watching these and I super appreciate you taking time to leave a comment, helps out the channel a ton!
Great research! I was in middle school when Micronauts #1 came out; it made a huge impression on me mostly due to Golden’s art. I never invested the effort into the various other licensed property books (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, GI Joe, ROM, Battlestar Galactica, and Godzilla]. For years a cover by Golden justified buying an otherwise pedestrian comic. I missed the chance to get the Micronauts artist edition, but got a copy of the more recent “Michael Golden Marvel” artist edition. I read everything I could ever find about that part of comics history, so I was not expecting to learn so much anew in your video. Cheers for doing a great job!
Thanks so much for the kind words. Yeah I used to pick up a LOT of books just because they had a Golden cover, sadly, no room for such things these days but he's still one of the greats. And yeah, I missed out on the Micronauts AE myself. It's one of the few I was going to pick up but didn't realize it would only be in print for a few months and now the prices are WAY beyond what I could ever hope to afford. It's a shame as I'd love to see that book up close, maybe someday, right? I am going to snag a copy of the new AE book as soon as I get the bumper back on my car and the hospital bills paid off... so hopefully it sticks around in print a little longer than Micronauts did, lmao. In the meantime at least i can oggle Heritage hi res scans haha Really appreciate you checking this out and especially leaving a comment btw - means a lot to know people are actually watching these and it helps out the channel a ton man
Thanks man, hopefully you dig the second part I think it came together fairly well. It's going to be a fairly bumpy ride from here on in though, so buckle up, haha! Thanks for checking these out and especially for taking time to leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Yeah he constantly says that he had little to no access to that stuff as a kid and only read like Disney and Little Lulu books. Was interesting coming across the interview from the 70s where he was a little more open about reading comics as a kid as well as talking to his teacher. Part 2 should be done in a few days, maybe a week just editing visuals on it now.
Happy your back, I was missing your TH-cam Documentaries but reconciled myself that you maybe channeling that energy in to your own comics projects. Any case thanks for a great doc
I was doing a lot of art but that was mostly because of money issues - I much prefer working on the channel than drawing all the time, I'm getting too old for that, haha. I'll likely have a book out sometime this year but I spent some time in the hospital again recently and had some pretty bad financial issues this last year. it costs a lot to do these videos because I have to buy all this research material and I spend all this time and I just had to take a break sadly. Thankfully I'm back, this is going to be a 4 part piece at least with a Danzig skull special to cap it off and then we're on to newer stuff from there. Thanks for sticking with me and I hope the new stuff is up to snuff because I realized one thing when I was working on this above all else, I was rusty, haha! Thanks so much for checking this out and especially for taking time to leave a comment, it means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos and it helps out the channel more than you know - so thanks again!
It's gonna be a wild ride I guarantee that, haha! Thanks so much for checking this out and especially taking time to leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton.
I’ve met him a few times throughout the years and I think I annoyed him once when I questioned his most recent style. He went into a small rant on the nature of the evolving comic industry and how he does what works best for business because at the end of the day it’s a commission. He is a strange cat, but I loved his old stuff. A legend for sure. Thank you for all you do my friend!
@@Ericortiz_arts yeah he got enough crap about it he says he tries to draw like he used to whenever he does say a Micronuats piece or whatever. There's a lot of debate about that online but for better or worse I guess, we'll be getting there as well... Thanks for giving a toss, wouldn't mean a thing if no one watched the videos!
It's fully scripted I just have to record and edit it this week. Part 2 should be up in about 2 weeks. Super appreciate you checking this out and especially taking time to leave a comment, means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos and it helps out the channel more than you know!
Thanks so much, really appreciate the kind words. Sitting here working on part 2 right now should be edited sometime next week and up soon after so not a long wait... hopefully haha. Really appreciate you taking time to leave a comment as well btw - helps out the channel a ton!
@@JerkComic I know the TH-cam Algo may disagree -- but I'm happy to wait a bit longer when I know the quality and research you bring to your work. Like that Citizen Kane guy (LOL) used to say, "We shall serve no wine before it's time." Glad if it's here earlier, but happy to have it in it's best form.
Seriously appreciate it! I am having a ton of fun on this series, new episode should be out in about a week too, had to take a break to finish up some stuff and deal with family crap but it's editing now and should be ready to rock in a few days finally!
I remember being into Michael Golden long before I ever knew who his name was as well. Was really cool getting to do this as I didn't know much about the Reclusive One myself. So glad people seem to be enjoying this series. Thanks for taking the time to not only check it out but leave a comment as well btw, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton
Thank you so much for the kind words, I would normally get all self-deprecating but instead I'll just take it and move on, haha! Super appreciate you not only taking the time to check this out but leave a comment as well, means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on, plus it helps out the channel more than you know!
Thanks so much for checking this out - super appreciate it and glad the ending has you waiting for part 2, it's already scripted, going to be recording this week and the second part should be up in about 2 weeks. Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment as well, really helps out the channel and means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on!
He's either great or horrible at shows, doesn't seem to be much in between haha. I would love to sit down and talk with the guy for sure! There's some legendary tales that follow him around and most of them are just smoke and overblown mirrors. I went into this like always with an open mind, but hoping to bust some of those misconceptions and I hope I ended up doing the guy some justice. He's so talented and reclusive that it's really worked against him over the years unfortunately
I don't know if he ever was as full of himself as he thinks he was. He's a super sure of himself dude and comes off as somewhat jaded in a lot of cases, and he definitely KNOWS he's good you know what I mean? But he's not egotistical from what I've seen. I think he just got some blow back over the fanzine interview and a few other things early on and decided that he was the problem. Which he partly is, but I don't think to the extent or in the ways that he necessarily thinks.
Thanks so much for checking this out. I got into him a little later but it was through reprints of his Batman stuff and then the Marvel shorts he was doing. Always loved his stuff and doing this was so much fun, learned a lot and happy to get to share this. Thanks again for not only taking the time to watch this but leave a comment as well - helps out the channel a ton!
Getting the Micronauts as it came out, the shift from Golden to Chaykin’s breakdowns heavily inked by Milgrom was jarring. The Golden covers kept the momentum going for me enough to keep buying until Broderick came on board. Despite the flat inking of Bulandi, I like the Broderick stuff. After that, I was out, only to occasionally to drop in.
I was always a sucker for Guice so I got down on that, and I'm legit obsessed with Chaykin but have NEVER gotten into Al Milgrom's heavy handed work either. It was definitely jarring to say the least. His covers helped, but they almost made me feel robbed and let down at a certain point when you'd open it haha. I haven't read the entire run in a LONG time, looking forward to the new omnibus so I can see how it all chains together and flows for the first time in 35 years! Thanks so much for checking this out, means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these pieces and I super appreciate you leaving a comment, helps out the channel more than you know!
Oh man good luck! I've got half a dozen pieces his 8th and 9th grade honors art teacher sent me but that was all I was ever able to find. All of his boards, vans and commercial mural/sign work I know of he says is gone in interviews. If you DO come up on anything make sure to let your Uncle Jerk know as I spent a LONG TIME looking for that stuff myself, haha!
Thanks so much! Working on it right now actually - should be up in about 2 weeks if all goes right! Seriously appreciate you checking this out as well as taking time to leave a comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Of course, appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos. It definitely shows, so if a comment & like helps out the channel I'm more than happy to drop em haha
Thanks so much! I'm so happy you liked this and even more that you learned some new stuff. I spend a lot of time on these so it means a lot to know people are enjoying them and taking something away. I super appreciate you leaving a comment btw, helps out the channel more than you know!
I've been watching yor Jack kirby documentry half through it rn, but cant help myself and started this in preparation for part 2 really cool to learn of these comic/artists icons.
I really appreciate you taking the time to check them out and especially leave a comment, helps out the channel a ton. I am so happy you're taking stuff away from these by the way, they take me a long time to do and it's really nice knowing people are actually watching and enjoying and taking stuff away from these!
Another great episode as always. Hearing this story makes me wonder how Golden would have faired in Europe with their system (taking a year to make a book) when compared to what had happened with Micronauts. it is a miracle the book turned out as well as it did (all things considered).
I think in a lot of ways he was kind of built for Euro comix especially. It's a shame he never made the leap or was invited as I think his art would have likely clicked with them too. That's an interesting thought that I hadn't considered until now. Had he ever been able to make the leap he would likely have thrived. He belonged working with people like Toppi and Druillet in my opinion and I did always find it weird he never mixed or hobnobbed with any of those guys that I know of. He dislikes the comics field enough I don't know if he ever gave it a second thought tbh though Thanks so much for taking time to check this out btw - means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos as they take me forever! Also super appreciate you leaving a comment, helps out the channel more than you know sir
I owned that "rejected" cover for many years, from 83 or so to 2019. Michael's story is correct. Bought it at Comic Con for $400 - that was all the money I had in the world at the time as a 12 year old.
Dude thank you so much for the information! I looked and looked and I thought I was looking at something that just was intended for promotional art or something, didn't have the kind of composition he seemed to use for his earlier cover work especially. And that is crazy - not only that you owned it but that you shelled out 400 bucks at 12 years old, haha! Man I wanna go back in time and roll deep with you sir! Thank you so much for checking this out btw - hope you enjoyed it and I seriously appreciate you not only taking the time to watch but leave a comment with such cool additional information, seriously appreciated and helps out the channel more than you know
@JerkComic absolutely! That story was corroborated by independent colleagues from the business, and Michael himself. I showed it to him at Comic Con a few years ago. He was...quiet, didn't say too much. He confirmed that the Baron karza on the top wasn't added by him. The scuttlebutt is that a lot of the piece was finished by other artists. Thank YOU for these amazing, in depth documentaries. Great stuff!
A long forgotten mystery from childhood comes back! is it pronounced Acro-year? Or A-Croy-Yer? Another great start can’t wait for the next! Thanks Unc!
Thanks so much as always! Super appreciate you taking time to comment as well, always appreciated. I know I've been away for a while, but this is gonna be a fun one and I got plenty more coming up so stay tuned!
Thanks as always brother - happy with how this is coming together and I used a new approach with the hi res scans of original art instead of pages for the most part, liked how it looked. What did you think as opposed to other videos? I didn't see a lot of really off putting low resolution images that pulled me out like I usually did...
Thanks you so much! I seriously appreciate you not only taking the time to check out this beast but to leave a comment as well, it means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on, plus it helps out the channel way more than you know!
Sorry man - I'm gonna have to do a middle of the night premier one of these days for all of you that watch overseas! Appreciate you making it though and the support as always my friend!
@@florianneumann9441 EVERYONE says that - I have to admit, I love how hideous and poorly put together it is, lmao. I grew up on Silver Age books and man, that looks like a rejected SA cover if I've ever seen one - so many captions and crap, haha. Love it to pieces though, legit - read several copies to pieces over the years
@@JerkComic I bought a copy sometime during covid - have to admit i haven't read it yet. But i remember the keyfabs also had an episode on it and said its a great read... Guess i will read it after i am through with 'minor threats' that i was lucky enough to score at my lcs yesterday ^^
Pearson legit worshiped Golden man. He's I think the ONLY pro that I saw post on Golden's FB page which he rarely uses, haha. I have a few panels they did together and listening to Pearson talk about him is awesome, loves Golden SO Much. It's not hard to see especially when you see their Wolverines next to each other, Pearson definitely was influenced to say the least. Thanks for taking time to check this out and leave a comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel immensely!
@JerkComic yeah! Love your channel. You do great work. Golden has been an inspiration to me and my art for decades and I was a big fan of Pearson as well
Haha, you're totally right! I wasn't able to find anything official with 55 on it but I'm pretty sure he was born in 55 after having talked to some people that knew him when he was younger. And I had not done that math, makes sense it was a little more hyperbole on Golden's part about dodging to make things seem more fun - thanks for the heads up! Super appreciate you taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot to know people are actually watching these and it helps out the channel more than you know!
Putting it lightly, haha! I think collectors and fans are often interesting personalities as well... or maybe that's just this jerk, haha! Thanks for checking this out and hope you dug it
Its has some good moments after he left but it was never the same ..the covers he did were just a reminder of that, Rubinstein is a great artist in his own right. It’s always seemed strange to me how he feel about Micronauts considering how good it was ! It’s also a little petulant to leave considering the direction The book actually went after he left ..
Tbf he took the series because no supes and then in less than a dozen issues that's the direction they went knowing Golden hated them, if he hadn't left who knows how long that original Karza arc would have gone on too. Plus we got Kelley Jones and Butch Guice art after so at least there's that haha. Thanks for checking this out and hope you liked it! Super appreciate you taking time to comment means a lot and helps a ton!
@@JerkComic it did go supes for a few but then it went so far away from that… frozen planets , Bugs planet can’t spell that one .. other than the Xmen cross over that was separate they really stayed in the microverse ..with new characters Devil and Huntarr .. so maybe it was just a misunderstanding.. he didn’t do the Annual with the FF .. and to be honest as much as I admire Ditko for him pioneering work .. it was impossible to see the Micronauts in that primitive manner after seeing Goldens layouts
@@bobbyhulll8737Well Ditko wasn't really putting in much effort by that point as he was being forced to work in licensed properties and lower tier crap after being at the top of the pecking order before Lee and him had their falling out and he left for Charlton. And I don't think it was a misunderstanding at all. Shooter and Mantlo wanted to integrate the book into the MCU proper and it didn't really play so they had to peel all that back and figure out how to recenter the book, which they did to an extent but I don't think they ever really got it balanced back out. It was a weird one but there was some fun stuff from the rest of that series if you were kind of forgiving about weird fills and non-sequiturs that didn't go anywhere at certain points.
@bobbyhulll8737 because it wasn't haha. He did not care about that stuff and he wasn't getting paid well for it either. His color book work for Tiny Tunes and The Transformers are utterly unrecognizable inho
not an under rated artist in my house. I have a poster on my wall that he did and i reference Avengers annual #10, and he was the father of the spider-man webbing that wasn't flat that Todd McFarlane made famous
Yeah Todd has always given Golden credit for the spaghetti webbing, ALL of the Image founders are obsessed with Golden's work, and Lee even was known to be a ravenous collector of Golden originals back in the day. I love that you've got so much of his stuff, I just wish everyone else was as wise as you my friend haha! Golden is a complicated dude but he deserves a LOT more credit from fans in my opinion.
@@JerkComic i saw him at a comic convention in Des Moines a few years back, probably 2018, and he wasn't busy or anything and my wife at the time told me to go talk to him, but i froze and couldn't...i was afraid to meet my hero, i told her...what if he's an ass.....i'll just keep him on a pedestal in my mind.... and i walk away.
@@JerkComic I actually did watch the video before commenting. I vaguely remember an old joke, but just wanted to make sure that's what you meant. I thought there might be an explainer in the beginning, but it's a good doc though. I'm a long time Golden fan and actually own 4 originals, two of which were published in the recent Marvel Artist Edition.
@@garymoUT I meant the series, we're working out way towards that situation - this is only the first of like 4 parts ;) And it's far more than an old joke, Golden really shot himself in the foot with that phrase and its likely the reason we don't see him pop up anymore. And that is awesome btw - insanely jealous! I would love to even have a sketch or something from him.... well maybe, haha
@@JerkComicI really enjoy your videos and this one is great. I do think the title is obscure at best and clickbaity at worst and does a disservice to all the effort invested. Making four hours of documentary and using a very low point from late in his career as a reference point.
Hopefully that becomes more obvious as we move further through his career but it should be apparent it's not meant as a sleight or because I don't respect the guy's work.
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Michael Golden fostered an entire generation of comic book artists in the early 90's and his influence is still felt today. I have DVD's, books, anything that has to do with Golden and still could never get a idea of who he was but your TH-cam video is by far the best I have ever seen on this eccentric man.
Thank you so much. I spend so long on these and it's comments like this that really make it worth while. Golden is one of the unmentioned men who make up the DNA of the image founders and like 99% of the guys that they worshipped like Art Adams and stuff. I've spent years admiring Golden's work but it was really interesting getting to the bottom of his reputation and work behind the scenes. I'm so happy people seem to be enjoying this one, put a lot of TLC into! Thanks again for the kind words as well as for checking this out and especially for taking the time to leave a comment really helps out the channel a ton
People tend to give credit to Arthur Adams without realizing Adams himself was a Golden clone!
Goldens Nam run was so good, I swore he was a vet. He was NOT!
Well thank you for your research of Golden. He is one of my all time favorite artists and especially the connected he has with the Gen X comic book artist and reader. You can tell his influence obviously with Art Adams along with McFarlane with that cartoon like style that didn't start taking shape over at Marvel until the late 80's and blew up in the 90's. I don't think later fans understand this but back when Golden was drawing The Micronauts NOBODY drew like him. It was the mighty Marvel way like Buscema or Trimpe or Romita and Golden did not fit the bill. Here is a good example, look at how Frank Miller was drawing back in 79 compared to his later years when he had more artistic freedom. That might be one of the reasons why Shooter didn't like his work.@@JerkComic
@JerkComic This made really start back drawing.
One of the greatest artists to have ever lived ❤❤❤❤❤😂
Truly is. Shame what's become of his career man
Having traveled with him on convention circuit in the past, you did a GREAT job on this info.
That means a lot. I spent the better part of 2 years pouring over everything I could find to try and put together the best and most comprehensive overview of him that I could. Was a massive fan growing up and getting to do this was super fun. Super appreciate the kind words, and especially you not only taking time to check this thing out but leave a comment as well, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Shooter's treatment to Golden seems to echo his treatment to contemporary fellow Micronauts artist Pat Broderick: "Jim Shooter had all but informed me that, in his opinion, my art sucked and that I would never get another raise there, regardless of how well my books were selling."
Broderick has made known his liking of Golden's work
Great and thorough document, really enlightening. I had the fortune to see Mr. Golden in 1983 (I think) at the Houston comic con, where he spoke as a panel member of artists. He definitely came across as an arrogant and jaded person, saying that he disliked the comic business and actually discouraged any artists in the audience from entering into the comics field. This of course was hard for many of us to reconcile, especially seeing his work and finding it hard to believe that someone with such a craft disliked doing it. He also said then that he was doing graphic art and design more, and comics not so much. One thing that he said that was hard for me to believe was that he no longer did pencil layouts, and just started drawing straight into the page with ink. This flipped my wig then, thinking that it was either then sign of a savant, or a lot of hokum. Now I think that he was just doing a bit of self aggrandizement, in keeping with his snarky-ness at the time. I really loved his work on Micronauts, that i got from the spinner rack as they came out, and it influenced my ideas of form and composition greatly. Looking forward to seeing part 2!
First off, thank you so much for not only taking the time to check this out but leave a comment - means a lot and helps out the channel more than you know! As per Golden, yeah he definitely comes off as disliking the industry, because, well - I think he does. He never got the respect or treatment he deserved and I think he went through a bad stretch of self-aggrandizing and getting a big head that he didn't like and completely turned on the industry as a result. TBF, I also feel like Marvel is just a disorganized mess in a lot of cases and that teamed with the length it takes Golden to get stuff done it was just a recipe for headaches and heartache. And re layouts - if he said he didn't even pencil at all anymore, yup he was full of it. Now, bear in mind, the man's "roughs" are like gestural figures and by all accounts he'll spend a DAY thinking about what a page or image is going to look like, another one or two doing research and reference work, and only THEN put pencil to paper so that he doesn't have to "draw things twice". From everything I've heard he does ALSO work just like Kirby essentially printing a page out from his brain starting at the top and working towards the bottom or vice versa - complete savant level stuff that I don't think needs exaggeration...
Love all the high resolution art that follows the narrative! Great job!
Thanks so much! I tried to go a different route with this one and use a lot of hi resolution scans of original art - pleasantly surprised with the results for sure. I am totally self-taught as an editor so means a lot that I didn't just butcher this as well haha! Thanks for taking the time to not only check this out but leave a comment as well - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
HOPE U BEEN GOOD MY BOI…..hopefully the new year has brought U blessings 🏆💚💪🏾
This year has already been crap but I refuse to let it keep me down. I'm taking my life and this channel back, haha! I got three or four more episodes of this as well as a Danzig skull special for finish it off coming up and then I can't wait to move on and get to something new after all these months. Thanks for sticking with me and repping like a champ as always my friend - means the world! Hope YOU are having a freakin amazing new year and you and yours had an awesome holiday!
40:33 - I was unaware Heath was an influence on Golden, but the art similarities have always struck me. On Showcase Presents Haunted Tank, Heath’s b&w work looks a lot like Golden’s: explosions, tech, storytelling, etc. I’m still watching and listening to this epic episode, Jerk! Incredible effort. Thank you! 👍
Oh it's all I'm the details. The DNA checks.
Yeah Golden doesn't talk about anyone as being a big part of his work but both P Craig Russel and Heath pop up a LOT. I guess Heath was a major influence on his use of the brush which he tried to use almost exclusively for years. Was interesting to learn about as it totally tracks but I wouldn't have put it together myself either.
Thanks so much for taking the time to check this out btw - means a lot to know people are actually watching these and I super appreciate you taking time to leave a comment, helps out the channel a ton!
Great research! I was in middle school when Micronauts #1 came out; it made a huge impression on me mostly due to Golden’s art. I never invested the effort into the various other licensed property books (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, GI Joe, ROM, Battlestar Galactica, and Godzilla]. For years a cover by Golden justified buying an otherwise pedestrian comic. I missed the chance to get the Micronauts artist edition, but got a copy of the more recent “Michael Golden Marvel” artist edition. I read everything I could ever find about that part of comics history, so I was not expecting to learn so much anew in your video. Cheers for doing a great job!
Thanks so much for the kind words. Yeah I used to pick up a LOT of books just because they had a Golden cover, sadly, no room for such things these days but he's still one of the greats. And yeah, I missed out on the Micronauts AE myself. It's one of the few I was going to pick up but didn't realize it would only be in print for a few months and now the prices are WAY beyond what I could ever hope to afford. It's a shame as I'd love to see that book up close, maybe someday, right? I am going to snag a copy of the new AE book as soon as I get the bumper back on my car and the hospital bills paid off... so hopefully it sticks around in print a little longer than Micronauts did, lmao. In the meantime at least i can oggle Heritage hi res scans haha
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Just finished part 1! Looking forward to starting part 2 next week! Great job as always!
Thanks man, hopefully you dig the second part I think it came together fairly well. It's going to be a fairly bumpy ride from here on in though, so buckle up, haha! Thanks for checking these out and especially for taking time to leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Incredible! Can’t wait for part 2! Had no idea about Golden’s supposed lack of interest and/or access to comics as a kid.
Yeah he constantly says that he had little to no access to that stuff as a kid and only read like Disney and Little Lulu books. Was interesting coming across the interview from the 70s where he was a little more open about reading comics as a kid as well as talking to his teacher. Part 2 should be done in a few days, maybe a week just editing visuals on it now.
Happy your back, I was missing your TH-cam Documentaries but reconciled myself that you maybe channeling that energy in to your own comics projects. Any case thanks for a great doc
I was doing a lot of art but that was mostly because of money issues - I much prefer working on the channel than drawing all the time, I'm getting too old for that, haha. I'll likely have a book out sometime this year but I spent some time in the hospital again recently and had some pretty bad financial issues this last year. it costs a lot to do these videos because I have to buy all this research material and I spend all this time and I just had to take a break sadly. Thankfully I'm back, this is going to be a 4 part piece at least with a Danzig skull special to cap it off and then we're on to newer stuff from there. Thanks for sticking with me and I hope the new stuff is up to snuff because I realized one thing when I was working on this above all else, I was rusty, haha!
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Wow, I’m bucklin’ up for this series!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❗️
It's gonna be a wild ride I guarantee that, haha! Thanks so much for checking this out and especially taking time to leave a comment, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton.
I’ve met him a few times throughout the years and I think I annoyed him once when I questioned his most recent style. He went into a small rant on the nature of the evolving comic industry and how he does what works best for business because at the end of the day it’s a commission. He is a strange cat, but I loved his old stuff. A legend for sure. Thank you for all you do my friend!
@@Ericortiz_arts yeah he got enough crap about it he says he tries to draw like he used to whenever he does say a Micronuats piece or whatever. There's a lot of debate about that online but for better or worse I guess, we'll be getting there as well... Thanks for giving a toss, wouldn't mean a thing if no one watched the videos!
Hopefully part 2 isn't far behind. I can't wait to hear about Yearbook 2, The Nam and Echos/Bucky
It's fully scripted I just have to record and edit it this week. Part 2 should be up in about 2 weeks. Super appreciate you checking this out and especially taking time to leave a comment, means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos and it helps out the channel more than you know!
Another solid informative offering. Muchly appreciated and looking forward to the next installment.
Thanks so much, really appreciate the kind words. Sitting here working on part 2 right now should be edited sometime next week and up soon after so not a long wait... hopefully haha. Really appreciate you taking time to leave a comment as well btw - helps out the channel a ton!
@@JerkComic I know the TH-cam Algo may disagree -- but I'm happy to wait a bit longer when I know the quality and research you bring to your work. Like that Citizen Kane guy (LOL) used to say, "We shall serve no wine before it's time." Glad if it's here earlier, but happy to have it in it's best form.
Amazing content as always. You are quickly becoming my favorite TH-cam channel.
Seriously appreciate it! I am having a ton of fun on this series, new episode should be out in about a week too, had to take a break to finish up some stuff and deal with family crap but it's editing now and should be ready to rock in a few days finally!
Glad you did this, have loved his work even before I knew who he was
I remember being into Michael Golden long before I ever knew who his name was as well. Was really cool getting to do this as I didn't know much about the Reclusive One myself. So glad people seem to be enjoying this series. Thanks for taking the time to not only check it out but leave a comment as well btw, means a lot and helps out the channel a ton
Great video, bud! You’re a true viruoso!
Thank you so much for the kind words, I would normally get all self-deprecating but instead I'll just take it and move on, haha! Super appreciate you not only taking the time to check this out but leave a comment as well, means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on, plus it helps out the channel more than you know!
This is a great deep dive. The cliff-hanger ending got me. I can't wait for part 2.
Thanks so much for checking this out - super appreciate it and glad the ending has you waiting for part 2, it's already scripted, going to be recording this week and the second part should be up in about 2 weeks. Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment as well, really helps out the channel and means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on!
Great vid. Golden made two consecutive appearances at the big con in my area when I lived in Louisiana. Sadly I missed getting to go both times.
He's either great or horrible at shows, doesn't seem to be much in between haha. I would love to sit down and talk with the guy for sure! There's some legendary tales that follow him around and most of them are just smoke and overblown mirrors. I went into this like always with an open mind, but hoping to bust some of those misconceptions and I hope I ended up doing the guy some justice. He's so talented and reclusive that it's really worked against him over the years unfortunately
Never knew he was full of himself in his early conversation days, considering met him more recently, and he was very humble.
I don't know if he ever was as full of himself as he thinks he was. He's a super sure of himself dude and comes off as somewhat jaded in a lot of cases, and he definitely KNOWS he's good you know what I mean? But he's not egotistical from what I've seen. I think he just got some blow back over the fanzine interview and a few other things early on and decided that he was the problem. Which he partly is, but I don't think to the extent or in the ways that he necessarily thinks.
Excellent episode - I was lucky enough to be on board from Micronauts #1 and have been a fan of Micheal's work ever since.
Thanks so much for checking this out. I got into him a little later but it was through reprints of his Batman stuff and then the Marvel shorts he was doing. Always loved his stuff and doing this was so much fun, learned a lot and happy to get to share this. Thanks again for not only taking the time to watch this but leave a comment as well - helps out the channel a ton!
Getting the Micronauts as it came out, the shift from Golden to Chaykin’s breakdowns heavily inked by Milgrom was jarring. The Golden covers kept the momentum going for me enough to keep buying until Broderick came on board. Despite the flat inking of Bulandi, I like the Broderick stuff. After that, I was out, only to occasionally to drop in.
I was always a sucker for Guice so I got down on that, and I'm legit obsessed with Chaykin but have NEVER gotten into Al Milgrom's heavy handed work either. It was definitely jarring to say the least. His covers helped, but they almost made me feel robbed and let down at a certain point when you'd open it haha. I haven't read the entire run in a LONG time, looking forward to the new omnibus so I can see how it all chains together and flows for the first time in 35 years!
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Now i have to find Michael Golden pre-comicbook art!
Oh man good luck! I've got half a dozen pieces his 8th and 9th grade honors art teacher sent me but that was all I was ever able to find. All of his boards, vans and commercial mural/sign work I know of he says is gone in interviews. If you DO come up on anything make sure to let your Uncle Jerk know as I spent a LONG TIME looking for that stuff myself, haha!
@@JerkComic hey luck happens!
Great video as always Jerk, can't wait for the second part!
Thanks so much! Working on it right now actually - should be up in about 2 weeks if all goes right! Seriously appreciate you checking this out as well as taking time to leave a comment btw - means a lot and helps out the channel a ton!
Of course, appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos. It definitely shows, so if a comment & like helps out the channel I'm more than happy to drop em haha
That ‘Nam run… those covers tho… I hold it up there with Mike Zeck’s GI Joe and Punisher mini-series covers
Amen to this!
Well done! As usual lots of background insight I hadn’t been exposed to before
Thanks so much! I'm so happy you liked this and even more that you learned some new stuff. I spend a lot of time on these so it means a lot to know people are enjoying them and taking something away. I super appreciate you leaving a comment btw, helps out the channel more than you know!
I've been watching yor Jack kirby documentry half through it rn, but cant help myself and started this in preparation for part 2 really cool to learn of these comic/artists icons.
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Another amazing video!
Thanks so much! I had a ton of fun with this one, can't wait to move on and get editing on this second part in a few days!
Another great episode as always. Hearing this story makes me wonder how Golden would have faired in Europe with their system (taking a year to make a book) when compared to what had happened with Micronauts. it is a miracle the book turned out as well as it did (all things considered).
I think in a lot of ways he was kind of built for Euro comix especially. It's a shame he never made the leap or was invited as I think his art would have likely clicked with them too. That's an interesting thought that I hadn't considered until now. Had he ever been able to make the leap he would likely have thrived. He belonged working with people like Toppi and Druillet in my opinion and I did always find it weird he never mixed or hobnobbed with any of those guys that I know of. He dislikes the comics field enough I don't know if he ever gave it a second thought tbh though
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I owned that "rejected" cover for many years, from 83 or so to 2019. Michael's story is correct.
Bought it at Comic Con for $400 - that was all the money I had in the world at the time as a 12 year old.
Dude thank you so much for the information! I looked and looked and I thought I was looking at something that just was intended for promotional art or something, didn't have the kind of composition he seemed to use for his earlier cover work especially. And that is crazy - not only that you owned it but that you shelled out 400 bucks at 12 years old, haha! Man I wanna go back in time and roll deep with you sir! Thank you so much for checking this out btw - hope you enjoyed it and I seriously appreciate you not only taking the time to watch but leave a comment with such cool additional information, seriously appreciated and helps out the channel more than you know
@JerkComic absolutely! That story was corroborated by independent colleagues from the business, and Michael himself. I showed it to him at Comic Con a few years ago. He was...quiet, didn't say too much. He confirmed that the Baron karza on the top wasn't added by him. The scuttlebutt is that a lot of the piece was finished by other artists.
Thank YOU for these amazing, in depth documentaries. Great stuff!
A long forgotten mystery from childhood comes back! is it pronounced Acro-year? Or A-Croy-Yer?
Another great start can’t wait for the next! Thanks Unc!
Lord knows I kind of make up my own pronunciations - no clue on this end, haha!
@@JerkComic the mystery continues…
A-Croy-Yer...
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Dam good content
Thanks so much as always! Super appreciate you taking time to comment as well, always appreciated. I know I've been away for a while, but this is gonna be a fun one and I got plenty more coming up so stay tuned!
can we just say documentary.. the word "Content" is so cringe.. I know its ubiquitous.. so Im not hating.. just advocating.. we could be the change
Great Videk boy!
Thanks as always brother - happy with how this is coming together and I used a new approach with the hi res scans of original art instead of pages for the most part, liked how it looked. What did you think as opposed to other videos? I didn't see a lot of really off putting low resolution images that pulled me out like I usually did...
This was a great video.
Thanks you so much! I seriously appreciate you not only taking the time to check out this beast but to leave a comment as well, it means a lot to know people are actually watching and enjoying these videos I spend so long on, plus it helps out the channel way more than you know!
Yeah@@JerkComic, It was very cool. I was a big fan of Michael Golden back when I started drawing. I'm looking forward to your part 2.
@@MakeYourOwnComics Working on it right now so hopefully not to long of a wait! Glad you enjoyed - thanks again
Is there a way I could get you to take a look at my comic?@@JerkComic
Damn I made my first premiere - unfortunately it’s 1am over here and I have to go to sleep ^^ so anyway have fun boils and guls
Sorry man - I'm gonna have to do a middle of the night premier one of these days for all of you that watch overseas! Appreciate you making it though and the support as always my friend!
No worries - will watch it now with cofeve - even better ^^
@@JerkComic avengers annual 10 - one of the ugliest covers ever put out ^^
@@florianneumann9441 EVERYONE says that - I have to admit, I love how hideous and poorly put together it is, lmao. I grew up on Silver Age books and man, that looks like a rejected SA cover if I've ever seen one - so many captions and crap, haha. Love it to pieces though, legit - read several copies to pieces over the years
@@JerkComic I bought a copy sometime during covid - have to admit i haven't read it yet. But i remember the keyfabs also had an episode on it and said its a great read... Guess i will read it after i am through with 'minor threats' that i was lucky enough to score at my lcs yesterday ^^
You can see Golden's imprint all over the late Jason Pearson's art
Pearson legit worshiped Golden man. He's I think the ONLY pro that I saw post on Golden's FB page which he rarely uses, haha. I have a few panels they did together and listening to Pearson talk about him is awesome, loves Golden SO Much. It's not hard to see especially when you see their Wolverines next to each other, Pearson definitely was influenced to say the least.
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@JerkComic yeah! Love your channel. You do great work. Golden has been an inspiration to me and my art for decades and I was a big fan of Pearson as well
If he was born in '55, he would've been 18 in '73-the same year the draft ended. So there was no draft for him to avoid.
Haha, you're totally right! I wasn't able to find anything official with 55 on it but I'm pretty sure he was born in 55 after having talked to some people that knew him when he was younger. And I had not done that math, makes sense it was a little more hyperbole on Golden's part about dodging to make things seem more fun - thanks for the heads up! Super appreciate you taking the time to check this out and especially leave a comment, means a lot to know people are actually watching these and it helps out the channel more than you know!
Comic book professionals are interesting personalities.
Putting it lightly, haha! I think collectors and fans are often interesting personalities as well... or maybe that's just this jerk, haha! Thanks for checking this out and hope you dug it
@@JerkComic like always man. I feel a smarter man when I watch your videos.
@kevincruz7958 man that made me smile! Thanks as always man
1:12:04 ?Batman? Is partially covered up by Jerk Comics. Not a bug deal but thought you should know.
Yeah Batman, sorry about that
@@JerkComic no worries, I just thought you should know in case it would bother you. There was plenty of context to figure it out.
See ya in part 2!
Its has some good moments after he left but it was never the same ..the covers he did were just a reminder of that, Rubinstein is a great artist in his own right. It’s always seemed strange to me how he feel about Micronauts considering how good it was ! It’s also a little petulant to leave considering the direction The book actually went after he left ..
Tbf he took the series because no supes and then in less than a dozen issues that's the direction they went knowing Golden hated them, if he hadn't left who knows how long that original Karza arc would have gone on too. Plus we got Kelley Jones and Butch Guice art after so at least there's that haha. Thanks for checking this out and hope you liked it! Super appreciate you taking time to comment means a lot and helps a ton!
@@JerkComic it did go supes for a few but then it went so far away from that… frozen planets , Bugs planet can’t spell that one .. other than the Xmen cross over that was separate they really stayed in the microverse ..with new characters Devil and Huntarr .. so maybe it was just a misunderstanding.. he didn’t do the Annual with the FF .. and to be honest as much as I admire Ditko for him pioneering work .. it was impossible to see the Micronauts in that primitive manner after seeing Goldens layouts
@@bobbyhulll8737Well Ditko wasn't really putting in much effort by that point as he was being forced to work in licensed properties and lower tier crap after being at the top of the pecking order before Lee and him had their falling out and he left for Charlton. And I don't think it was a misunderstanding at all. Shooter and Mantlo wanted to integrate the book into the MCU proper and it didn't really play so they had to peel all that back and figure out how to recenter the book, which they did to an extent but I don't think they ever really got it balanced back out. It was a weird one but there was some fun stuff from the rest of that series if you were kind of forgiving about weird fills and non-sequiturs that didn't go anywhere at certain points.
@@JerkComic I felt the same with Ditko on Rom it just wasn’t very good compared to what the newer artists were doing
@bobbyhulll8737 because it wasn't haha. He did not care about that stuff and he wasn't getting paid well for it either. His color book work for Tiny Tunes and The Transformers are utterly unrecognizable inho
not an under rated artist in my house. I have a poster on my wall that he did and i reference Avengers annual #10, and he was the father of the spider-man webbing that wasn't flat that Todd McFarlane made famous
Yeah Todd has always given Golden credit for the spaghetti webbing, ALL of the Image founders are obsessed with Golden's work, and Lee even was known to be a ravenous collector of Golden originals back in the day. I love that you've got so much of his stuff, I just wish everyone else was as wise as you my friend haha! Golden is a complicated dude but he deserves a LOT more credit from fans in my opinion.
@@JerkComic i saw him at a comic convention in Des Moines a few years back, probably 2018, and he wasn't busy or anything and my wife at the time told me to go talk to him, but i froze and couldn't...i was afraid to meet my hero, i told her...what if he's an ass.....i'll just keep him on a pedestal in my mind.... and i walk away.
Virue?
Trust me, you'll get it before this is over. If you can't wait amd want some spoilers just Google Patience Is A Virue Michael Golden...
@@JerkComic I actually did watch the video before commenting. I vaguely remember an old joke, but just wanted to make sure that's what you meant. I thought there might be an explainer in the beginning, but it's a good doc though. I'm a long time Golden fan and actually own 4 originals, two of which were published in the recent Marvel Artist Edition.
@@garymoUT I meant the series, we're working out way towards that situation - this is only the first of like 4 parts ;) And it's far more than an old joke, Golden really shot himself in the foot with that phrase and its likely the reason we don't see him pop up anymore. And that is awesome btw - insanely jealous! I would love to even have a sketch or something from him.... well maybe, haha
@@JerkComicI really enjoy your videos and this one is great. I do think the title is obscure at best and clickbaity at worst and does a disservice to all the effort invested. Making four hours of documentary and using a very low point from late in his career as a reference point.
Why would you name it after Michael's biggest faux pas?
Hopefully that becomes more obvious as we move further through his career but it should be apparent it's not meant as a sleight or because I don't respect the guy's work.