Citroën DS THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED VINTAGE CAR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2019
- @gastonrossato @thebarnmiami @renzorossato
S2 E13: We take out some of our new inventory. The 1973 (despite the fact we said it was 1970) Citroen DS 23 Pallas. The most technologically advanced vintage car. EVER.
A car produced from 1955 to 1975 and creating 1,455,746 examples total!
DS for the French word Déesse meaning goddess and Pallas for the luxury trim level named after the Greek god Pallas. Our example is a DS 23 alluding to the 2.3L water-cooled four cylinder engine. It was a rare option to have the 5 speed transmission (+ reverse) and this car has it as well....on the column of course.
Unlike most cars, this car has a complex hydraulic system that operates the brakes, suspension, transmission and steering.
The car has so many innovative features, for instance the headlights turn with the steering wheel to light up the direction in which you point. The headlight covers have little doors where you can reach in and wipe in the event of a foggy headlight cover. The inner dial of the speedometer has a braking distance meter. You can replace a tire without a jack! The rear quarter panels come off with just one bolt. The front track is actually wider than the rear for aerodynamics. The roof is made of fiberglass to lower weight and the center of gravity.
This car truly goes down as one of the ultimate classics. There is no other car in the world like this one, in both design and innovation.
Oh and did we mention it's the most comfortable car ever too!
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DON'T DRIVE A DS ON THE LOW SUSPENSION SETTING! I can tell you guys love this car but that was painful to watch.
We don’t. It was for 1 quick photo. Thanks for the comment
@@GastonRossato In the intro you guys were clearly on low suspension, that car will NEVER shake you like you were if the suspension is engaged. In the lowest setting there are only the bumps stops and tires for suspension. Great way to ruin a perfectly good car. I've owned these cars for decades, and would never do this, very bad for the car. You should know this car was not designed to 'look cool', function drove everything, so please respect that and put it on the normal setting, this is very upsetting to see. RTFM, it tells you not to do this!
@@CitEnthusiast I agree, very disturbing to watch . NEVER drive on lowest car height setting because there is NO suspension ! I hope the owner of the car doesn't see this video.
@@frankds8773 It's my car.
@J Schroeder Transporting a DS requires strapping down the wheels, not the frame. I know of some DSs that have had the frame broken from improper strap downs. There is no way any DS will stay up on the highest position during transport, it's best to let it sit on the bottom. if the trip is short, say less than a hour, and the hydraulic system is in very good condition, you could leave it on the high cruise without too much concern, it would settle slowly. But high doesn't achieve anything really, and it will sink. I've seen an SM towed with it on high, to keep the rear up, and that seemed to be working fairly well, but I don't know if they stopped periodically to raise it back up. My SM left on high will sink down after a few hours, I'd have to replace the height correctors to get more time up, but in my decades of experience with these cars you cannot rely on the suspension staying up without the pump running. The rear does not sink as quickly, especially with the jacking lock bar raised, that does seem to help.
Very naughty to drive a DS on the lowest setting. The car is on the rubber bumpstops and your only give is in the tyres and bumpstops.
This setting is for changing tyres and servicing ONLY. You strain the car's structure when you drive on the street, and risk grinding out the rear bumpstops leaving metal to metal...
A very good remark! I noticed this too! Not very wise, and it doesn´t give you the worlds best riding comfort!.
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The lower setting is meant for maintenance, not for driving...
Pearls before swine with these guys. I noticed the ride height right away too, plus it jacks up the ride. Ours was basically the same, and same color but Citromatic and black interior.
You will damage car in this supension position
Yes correct. It was only for a photo.
Guys, Sam Barrett is right, the lowest setting isn't for driving. The middle 3 of the 5, select-able heights are for driving. I know because I daily drive a '72 DS. And, in my opinion, the music in this video was massively annoying. Why not some Edith Piaf? I wish they researched and learned the Citroen DS better. It would have made for a better video.
You really feel they heard of any French singers!
Hi guys, great clip but your driving with the suspension set at its lowest which looks great but isn’t for driving, I can tell by how your being jolted around inside the car.
I have a 72 DS and it’s the most comfortable car even by modern day standards, you should literally feel like your riding a magic carpet.
Try it again on the second or third suspension setting.
Sam Barrett you’re absolutely right. We did state we’re driving it like that while we secure the roller shots. The suspension is WAY too smooth to drive it like that. It was just for the “cool factor” photo.
@@GastonRossato I should note you have no real brake power when in lowest. it damages the system and is actually quite dangerous, eventhough it may look cool you shouldn't do it.
@@barenstil5525 right, because brake power is adjusted to the load on the suspension which is 0 in this case. It's overall a very bad idea.
@@zagyex indeed, they are lucky its a ds tho, driving an activa in the low is just plain suicide lol, can't steer fully and takes for ever to get up again XD
I must say. I once had to swerve at high speed at night for an obstruction on the highway.
I heard tyres squeel but after I swerved back the car remained stable. It handled like magic.
Sure own a lot to my ds.
Should never have sold it. Stil the best car I ever had.
Can't afford one now
Looking at the way both of you bounce, I've no idea how you can talk about the suspension comfort when the car is set to its low level
They don’t seem to know about how the suspension works . You would never run the car that low .
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What the hell are you doing!? You can't drive the car in the lowest suspension setting, you'll ruining the car within a few minutes! Yes, maybe it looks cool but FFS...
Ah mais non, ils sont encore plus cons que je pensais, ils roulent en position basse!!!! On aura tout vu...
C'était juste pour la photo au début
Woahhhh. Seriously way ahead of its time! So cool. Thank you for sharing the knowledge, always great to learn things from these different cars
Ricky Boada thanks brother!
Whatch Jay Leno channel. His car is very interesting and way more factually correct.
If that's a DS23 it has a 5-speed transmission. 5th is push forward (away from you) and up, it's above where reverse is. Check it, if not then this transmission is not original to the car, all manual DS23s had a 5 speed. The Citromatic remained at a 4 speed, so for cruising at highway speeds the 5 speed is desired. Nice video, glad you guys like it. Imagine driving one of these to your High School as a student in the '70s!
I would pick a DS21/23 pallas cabriolet... black with brown leather....But they are getting darn $$
@@scb2scb2 My first car ever was a 1966 DS21 Cabriolet by Chapron. Loved it, regret ever selling it. Now it would command more than $200K USD!
Great car! My father used to see another one, but it was DS 23, in USSR, it was 1976. The emotions were so much, that was pure "wow effect" !
According to words of my dad, the feeling was like a car from another planet. Today there are few cars that can be so impressive with their technical solutions. Abundance of demand, and mass.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing
For me it's the most beautiful car ever designed! It's a mid century modern masterpiece!
I remember a repair shop in West Hollywood (Los Angeles), California, USA, that specialized in these back in the 80's. I wonder if it's still in business.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and this is a perfect example.
Glad they're not driving my DS.
Les sphères de suspension ça se change!
Beautiful example of my favorite car of all time.
Considering how many people who were offended by either the ride height and or the music chosen, maybe a total redo may be in order. In addition to the changes to appease your audience, you should also look into giving us a demonstration of driving the DS on three wheels! The only thing, I wouldn't try the tight circles while in that mode.
Thank you very much! We don’t want to risk a malfunction on 3 wheels! Lol
@@GastonRossato not an issue with the DS. Works perfectly fine. My dealer was stopped by the OPP driving North on HWY 400 to come back to his location after having a flat and finding out one of his mechanics had removed and not replaced the spare for another job. Passed everything the OPP officer could throw at him.
phlotographer Good story, that would make a great movie! 😅
Simply magificent!
Thank you
The license plate is from Spain! Greetings from spain guys... 😃👍
Saludos! Gracias
watching with envy, beautiful car
Delray Beach local here! Love this car. Can it fit 6’3 driver?!
Thanks! (1977 450SL, 2000 E55 AMG, 2017 Aprilia Tuono Factory).
Hello! I’m 6’3 and there is room to spare! Thanks for watching 💪 (sweet rides)
When exported in US in the lates 50, this car had no real success just because nobody was able to fix it, filling the brake system with lookhed instead of LHM fluid, for instance, and may be dammaging it cruising in low position. Totally stupid even for a while. Low position is the rest position. High level position is to climb obstacles at very reduce speed. You only appreciate the exceptionnal comfort of the suspension when cruising in normal position. This car can work on 3 wheels. This detail saved Pdt De Gaulle during an attack in 1962.
Correct! Thank you for sharing
Nice review lads, my ultimate would be the safari DS 23 pallas. I'm sure there is one near me in SW France some time soon !
Thank you!
8:07 - The interior door handle looks like something that came off of the Pagani Zonda F.
Steampunk look. It's gorgeous.
My father owned the the 1964 56 years ago in Ethiopia .
This is my dream car to drive till this day thank you guys you made my day
No, thank you for sharing!
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The stearing wheel is design for safety so in a crash it will not break your chest or your head
Exactly
Looks very cool.
Thank you
What a car, revolutionary..
Back in San Jose California my Elementary School the 6th Grade Teacher Mrs. Halverson she had went to Europe after college. She and her Husband came back with two the Station Wagon and the Sedan. Cool Looking Cars that would have been about 1970
Awesome! Thank you for sharing
Fun wee video with some lovely shots. I'm assuming that this was made while you were still a new owner. These cars do polarise people for sure and those of us that love them can be broadly put into 2 groups. Those that continually learn about them, get every little detail perfect and treat them like trailer queens AND those that do the above but drive them they way they should be. I've owned 2 of these over the past 12 years and my current DS23 is undergoing a total restoration and I am still learning new things about the car. Sure other commenters are right - the car should be driven at speed on only the middle 3 height options but can be driven slowly on the lowest (9cm) and highest setting (24cm, I think) which is higher than some suv types. There is a lot of information that would be of interest to people that wasn't in the clip but maybe do another video a bit later and cover that information e.g. the manufacturing process required a far tighter tolerance than the standards of the day resulting in ramping up the precision of manufacture globally. Also the front fenders are removed using 1 more bolt (each) than the rear, but ancillary connections need to be disconnected which takes time. The suspension is self-adjusting regardless of the weight placed on it. I could go on...and on.. Nice work guys, you will have a lot of fun over the years with this car. be prepared to make a permanent space in your garage for it! LOL.
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I hope to own one some day.
One off the best Car ever❤😘🇨🇵👍
Please turn on the lights when you film the car running. It looks much better!
My all time favourite car ❤
My '69 DS 19 Pallas was semi auto but no leather seats. However the cloth seats were better and more comfortable than a living room home sofa. The button brake was and is so much better than any other braking system. When driving and having to brake in other vehicles, the foot has to rise from the accelerator to get to the brake pedal before being able to depress it. With the DS button brake, the foot simply drops from the accelerator to the button and that split second can allow for much faster braking. The only problem can be is when the guy behind can't stop fast enough and he occupies your trunk.
Another great feature the vehicle had was the ability for the headlights to self level so when going up inclines the lights stayed on the road and not simply lighting the moonlit sky.
There are many other features also. Best car ever and it was sad when they stopped being imported to both the US and Canada in '73/74.
Awesome. Thank you for sharing
I found with mine brilliant to drive, the ride was incredible, But I could only drive it with the suspension setting in the centre lock position, but yes wonderful design,i have regretted getting rid of it many time,s and would eagerly buy another one today.
Agreed!
i have a 2002 c5 est ,if you drive in low or high suspension it resets to normal above 20 mph to avoid any damage.
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Best car in the world!
Indeed
Vetlaust!
I had one 1969 ds id19 best car I've ever owned
Nice!
The quickest way to destroy the diaphragm in the suspension spheres is driving down the street with the suspension on its lowest setting. These guys might be importers of luxury cars but they don't know that much about Citroen.
If I had a chance of buying this car, I would buy it for my dad as a present because he owned it in the '70s when I was three years old.
That would amazing. Gives me chills
Guys... at 2:14 "i have it in the lowest setting" yeah, for maintanance, riding it in that ruins the suspension. Where are the horns on the front bumper? In the captions: "It was a rare option to have the 5 speed transmission" nope: That was the standard manual tansmission on the DS 23. A white roof on a silver car was never an option in that years though.
I remember in the late 60s calling this car a shark back in Spain
Front bumper has missing overriders - just in case you didn't know :D
You missed a couple of important things on safety. In a head-on collision the engine is designed to slide below the driver and front passenger seats instead of crushing their legs. The spare wheel goes in front of the engine to provide a sort of buffer, as a crumple zone does. The steering shaft is designed to break way up front so the driver doesn't get impaled. The headlights are self levelling so you don't blind other vehicles when you are carrying a load. You can drive it on three wheels with one of the back wheels removed. In a front tyre blowout the car does not slew to the blowout side. Just to name a few... :) I doubt it is, but if it is still for sale let me know please.
the DS has to be the most innovative concept car ever mass produced
I grew up with this car. It was brilliant. But your height setting is disastrous!
How about the hydraulic Citroen party trick - you can drive it on 3 wheels.
PS - headlight hatch is for cleaning dirt/dust with the glassed in lights.
The heat from the lights prevent fogging of the glass.
The spot lights turn with the streeting and large lights self level with a cable connection between front and rear suspension.
Dumb US laws would not approve QI turning and leveling lights, so they had fixed sealed beam lights without the glass..... Same with the SM...
Set the Hydropneumatic of normal Level and you'll pleasure the unique Citroën Suspension - Comfort
Numero uno
Thank you!
Nice job guys.
Thank you!
too much music
I think that this was the first car to come with discbreaks. In the 1950th.
I have one of these DS 23 Pallas,exactly the same color called Gris Nacre,which means Grey Oyster. Mine is also a 5 speed manual car,but has a red velour interior. Mine is a 1975 car, which was the last year of the DS cars,because Peugeot had taken over the company and the next car was called a CX. Here are some oddities about these cars. It can be drive on just 3 wheels,with the suspension setting on the highest level,and only if one of the rear wheels is removed, not any of the front wheels. There is no Citroen badge on the outside or the inside of the car,only the chassis plate has the word Citroen. On the rear trunk,it will have DS23, badge,and the C pillars has the word Pallas. The front doors are self closing. The hood is made of aluminium alloy, the roof is fiberglass and can be unbolted and removed.
Thats awesome! Thanks for sharing
Yes! I saw one being driven on 3 wheels without the 4th one when I was kid in Haiti. Thank you for sharing Cheers!
Where is the spare wheel?
Sooo bad: driving in lowest position is the worst idea; so bad to look at..
Very kind. Thank you
Correct. Thank you
En position basse tu ne rouleras pas ou en taxi tu rentreras !
En position haute tu ne rouleras pas ou un abonnement de taxi tu achèteras !
Nice video, but I will subscibe when you switch your brain to think: hey, maybe we should put some other music behind this video that suits the feel of this car'.
We appreciate the view! Cheers
The bonnet (hood) is aluminium!
give it too me!
Citroën was voted third in competiton car of the century
I did not know that. Awesome
Nice frog.
My dream car after the alpha romeo guerilla
Yes!!
Handsome!!!
Indeed!
Not air cooled, water cooled!
Correct
Why you ride along such a bumpy road in the lower Hydraulic level ??? And the interior cam is s bad. That is not the real feeling inside. I own this car 4 years, ant till today I miss him ;-(
ahh haters just hate, learn more about the car you own will help, my dad worked for >50 years for citroen and i worked on them myself. It was indeed a little hard to watch while you explained how smooth the ride is but its not like how upset owners got at Burt Reynolds where they trashed a nice SM for a movie.
I saw that part with Burt Reynolds yesterday. When he drives through a park he does a full stop you can see the front and rear suspension go down and up really cool! It's difficult finding a video from that.
Missing the spare tire.
This video is very interesting but it would be a lot nicer without the really irritating muzak.
Noted
Guys the name is quite simple. Just say DS (pronounced day s in French) which means goddess.
Thank you
Put the suspension up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome auto.
Thank you
How much?
I’m sorry the car has sold.
The DS is water-cooled.
Yes
@@GastonRossato @5:45 - "Naturally aspirated. Air-cooled"
Make a mistake, only human. Thx for pointing out
@@GastonRossato There was lots of dialog. It's impressive that it was the only thing I picked up on. Keep up the good work.
Don't break it...
Nope
So ahead of its time, in fact, it looks more modern, than most modern cars today
I agree!
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yes it was ahead of its time technically. But the argument for looks, sorry that's just under personal opinions...or problem!
Put some Dayton wheels and you have a French lowrider
This is not the most powerful engines of the DS with a carburettor. The most powerful is the IE with electronic fuel injection from Bosch with 130 hp.
To all the butturt commenters : it's Gaston's car, if he wants to drive it like a low rider give him a break.
Superbe exemplaire en tout cas. Très bonne ID pour le toit blanc.
Thank you
So, some american guys review a french car with spanish number plates=))))
That’s globalization for you
Really try learning automotive history first prior to making fools of yourselves. Citroen traction avant , DS and many other European manufacturers ideas are now standard features on mass produched cars. The world doesn't begin and end in the U.S.A.
Ok. Not sure how we tried to suggest that, but I do thank you for watching. cheers.
A french, spanish licensed car in america and two men talking about how great its suspension is, of course, while driving it in its lowest position bouncing down the road, as it is the same as having no suspension................. Like repeating the "car's story" the way mr Leno did in an older video, but not knowing the car at all... Great video, poor car hahaha
Don’t drive the car with suspension on low . Read the handbook !😮
La poésie Francaise.
I suggest to show us the car more than your face.
Thanks for feedback
Ils roulent en position basse et prétendent qu’elle est confortable alors qu’il n’y a pas de suspension dans cette position ! N’importe quoi.
Wtf do not change height on the move!!!!!!
La France aujourd'hui c'est un pays humilié à l'étranger!
If you drive (or sell) a DS, at least it might make sense to figure out how the suspension is supposed to work... Hint, DONT drive on low setting. Its painful to watch this.
By the way you guys are bouncing I can tell you're in low position ! Ridicule
For the photo opt...yes
AMERICANS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WITHIN 20 MILES OF A DS CITROEN!. I was wondering why they were bouncing up and down then say they had it on the lowest suspension setting which is not for driving and means the suspension is on the bump stops.
Yes , and they know this and they explained why they did so.
"There's nothing else that looks like it."
There's nothing else that looks like the Anglerfish, either, but that doesn't mean it's beautiful.
The DS is unquestionably a great car. But it's not beautiful.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish
It is Of artistic beauty.
Why the fuck you drive it with low suspension ??
nice car...bad taste music...
STOP !!! Vous roulez avec la suspension au minimum !!! Cette position est pour changer la roue en cas de crevaison !! Vous êtes en train d'abîmer cette voiture !! Ça se voit car vous sautez sur tous les defauts de la route, alors que justement vous devriez être sur un tapis volant 😱😱😱😡😡😡
These guys knows absolutely nothing about the DS!
What a waste of a magnificent machine on a couple of know-nothings and a completely inappropriate soundtrack.
Thank you for watching!
False driven cause of too low setting!!! 😂🤮☝️👎👈