Vintage Future: 1973 Citroën SM - One Take
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This 1973 Citroen SM is one of the coolest and most interesting vehicles ever made. In the pursuit of the ultimate GT car, Citroen created a stunning, 4-seat coupe body powered by a 3.0L Maserati V6 engine and suspended on a unique hydropneumatic self-leveling and height-adjustable "oil suspension," for unsurpassed ride quality before, and arguably since. This example has been owned by friend of TST Alex Roy for the past 9 years.
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45 years after it was built and it still looks like a car from the future.
Stunningly Beautiful.
Even more so with original European Spec Headlamp arrangement instead of that crap US spec design.
That's France for you
The DS and SM are pure art.
@@jody024 ye
The reason why the swivelling high-beams were banned in the US was because regulations at the time required all vehicles to have two or four round sealed-beam headlamps on fixed mounts, with no lens or other covering in front of them.
But why was this regulation in place at the time?
Take away that beautiful body and the engine/DRAVI steering system and, basically, what is left is a DS21. For those 'complaining' about the amount of power - get over it. It was not designed to a 'dragster'. And if your only concern is how fast you can go 0-60 (mph), just climb back into your collective cribs :). The SM was designed to be a long distance mover in supreme comfort - and they more than achieved that goal. At 120 mph it is far smoother than another car on the road today with the exception of maybe a V6 Cit XM or C6. The real 'innovation' with the SM was the steering system. Two turns lock to lock for an 88 degree swing of the front wheels. At rest one can turn the fronts with a finger. Yet, built into the design, is a piston and cam that increases the force needed to turn the wheels as speed increases.Additionally, just like the D series, one cannot move the front wheels from the outside of the car. IOW you hit a pot hole at speed in a corner - you feel nothing via the steering and the car just goes on its intended trajectory as though nothing happened. The other aspect is that removing ones hands from the steering wheel and the system returns to a straight ahead position. So they incorporated a 'locking' system so one can curb the wheels when needed. The downside of the system is about the only way you will notice a blowout is from the noise and smell.
And for those 'worried' about performance - take any street with 'speed bumps' / pot holes / undulations and the SM/DS or any other of the hydropneumatic suspended Cits will fly by your most expensive race/sport car at speeds that will send a non hydraulic Cit into low orbit. One of the reasons the underpowered DS's were WRC year after year. Yes they will lean, but their actual road holding ability is legendary on anything but an absolutely smooth surface.
I personally own an SM , along with two of the D models, an XM (only one of 50 in the US) as well as the diminutive 2CV. And have driven them, exclusively, since 1963. I get into any other car and my first reaction is, how did the roads deteriorate so quickly............
Steve Hammond thank you for this excellent comment. 😀
Yes it's an honor to have you reply. Never met anyone who owned a true XM imported into the US. I always thought the last true Citroen imported into this country was the CX. Your knowledge is amazing.
@@klwthe3rd And there are others like Steve. We know these cars well and we love them as only a fanatic can.
Steve Hammond i’m interested in the SM, but what are the problems that i should watch out for / fix?
Steve Hammond man I'm with you 100%
Citroën was once a really great carmaker. Quality was not always their strongest point but they gave the world some very unique and iconic automobiles.
@Mondo - Yeah, and now they are basically only shit. You can´t even get Citroën with a hydropneumatic suspension anymore. That would be the only argument for me to buy a Citroën.
@@sukhmaidickoff They are still the best in Europe for their comfort..granted the styling has been less risk taking..but the "DS Brand" of citroen is making some really good cars.
@@jean-yvesmartin6934 Personally I would say that *NOTHING* comes even close to a hydropneumatic suspension. The feeling of floating over the ground like you do with a hydropneumatic suspension - in my opinion - can never be reached with regular coil springs. Sure, there are cars that have a nice comfort with coil springs too - but you won´t get the same floating-feeling. The only thing that comes near are air-suspensions like the ones i.e. Mercedes Benz makes (Airmatic). I am sure that some people might have other reasons as me to buy a Citroën - and to be honest I don´t know that much about the DS-brand - but to me it seems the DS-series covers a "niche"-customer segment, but then again - I could be wrong about that.
I know this is many years ago, but in 1994 I bought a brand new Citroën ZX 1,8. Sadly enough I have to say that I have never had a car that bad before. I sold it after only 2 years and I cannot describe how many problems I had with the car during those 2 years. I sold it with a *BIG* economic loss. Hence I am VERY reluctant to buy a Citroën again - and I REALLY need some good reasons to buy a Citroën again - even though I know that 25 years have passed since then.
The point with my comment is - that I think it was wrong of Citroën to move away from using hydropneumatic suspensions in some of their models. I don´t think I am the only person that considers this to be one of the main purchase-arguments to buy a Citroën.
The DS-series has some untraditional design solutions - inside and outside - but to my knowledge - and from a technical point of view - it´s still basically a Citroën. In the long run I am not sure that this will be enough - but again - I could be wrong :-)
@@sukhmaidickoff I know i know. .A friend of mine owns a DS and i get to drive it sometimes , you 're not driving, you're stirring a very comfortable yacht ...I had a 2CV when i was young also and that was a real trip........)
@@jean-yvesmartin6934 Maybe I should try to make a test-ride in a DS soon :-)
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Heavy car with 170 hp seems like it wouldn't be fast but this car's aerodynamics are so good it is actually an extremely fast autobahn cruiser - though acceleration isn't that impressive. Sounds incredible, I believe the Maserati V6 has an unusual firing order that makes it sound very good.
Like every Citroen was, even the AX had a very good cx, allowing you to hit 100mph with the tiny 55hp 1.1l...
I bottled it at an indicated 90mph on my AX back in the days, because it felt terminally unstable.
catnapwat haha yeh slippery in air isnt always so stable in air
A friend had an AX GT, which I got to drive on road and track. No problems at 90 (properly sorted suspension + heavier nose) and an absolute riot on track.
Shame it was made out of second hand tin foil and hope.
That car is the most comfortable 140 mph GT--- ALL DAY LONG
You ain't shit if you don't have a driveshaft running your accessories!
Alex Roy is one of my favorite people. I'm happy to see him on the channel again!
Thanks so much! - Alex
you mean Raymond 'Red' Reddington :o
If I had 50 grand, would buy it in a heart beat.
Same here better SM then then nag woman almost hover car same whit DX:)
It's so cool, an Alex has some of the best cars
You can get it in Europe (with the original 6 light configuration ) for like 35.000
Crazy how the owner sounds so negative about his car... Take a step back, this car is just fantastic ! Kind of a DS on testosterone
Yup
Especially when he’s trying to sell it hahahahaha
There are a surprising number of Citroen SM vids here on TH-cam, but Matt's format, where he has an expert guest talk about the car as he drives it, provides an exceptionally informative viewing experience. And it's enjoyable too. Perhaps it's the most immersive "virtual driving" experience on TH-cam. (I'd give Harry's Garage a second.) Go for it, Matt!
One of my all-time favorite cars. The SM and DS are just so ding-dang-diddly cool it hurts.
All old Citroens ride buttery smooth...it is a French caracteristic
you like it
The European spec cars had 6 headlights with cornering function. In the 70's my father would drive the length of France in a Ford Cortina mk3 on business, its cruising speed was 70 mph. Citroen DS & SM's would waft by at over 100 !
Amazing video! I saw one of those as a kid in East Germany. We always looked at nice western cars, and this one was unlike anything I had seen before. I remember the speedometer went over 260 kmh, little boys in the 1980s always checked that as a measure how fast a car went. It was way more than I had believed possible for a Citroen, and the car stuck in my head forever since.
Didn't Erich Honecker have a Citroen CX?
exeuroweenie Yes, he had a CX25 Turbo as his private car and a slightly modified 'standard' CX in which he was chauffeured.
@@chvydrvr Thanks,lucky him.Just bought another turbo myself-they're addictive.
The same for me....but with a Mercedes W126 in the 90's Romania
Ah ah, yeah totally true about kids of the 70's taking a look on cars speedometers, searching for max speeds. I was one of that kids 🤭😁👍❤
Way ahead of it's time
Loved the CX for the same reasons .
@@IwillBwaiting And XM and C6 lol
Now this is a Doug car
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Dale Gribble Doug is a twat.
Dale Gribble *Auto trader plug intensifies*
Do you know he has a column on Autotrader?
Jordan Ridgeway HA!!!
If Matt drives the 26th M5 with 25 hp more than the previous one, he gets high on enthusiasm but when he drives one of the most avantgarde and rare French supercar from almost half a century ago, he talks and acts like he's driving a grey VW Polo from 1998.
I don't get it. I only saw this car once. In a museum. It's beautiful and unique. I thought this was going to be one of the best clips ever.
Citroen had some legendary models in the past. This is one of them. Build quality and design of their cars then cannot be compared to their models today. This is an icon.
I once rode in a Citroen DS in Paris (the first Citroen to have the hydropneumatic suspension) and to this day it is the most comfortable ride I have had. It was also beautifully streamlined. The DS is the model that De Gaulle was in when he escaped the sub-machine gun assassination attempt (August 22, 1962).
"I once rode in a Citroen DS in Paris (the first Citroen to have the hydropneumatic suspension)"
Wrong: Traction 15-Six H (1954) was the first. ("H" means hydropneumatic!)
I was born in '71 and I'm weird as hell too. Maybe it's a '70s thing! My Dad talks fondly of Citroen, all the wealthy people had them in France, it was a status symbol car. People knew them for the styling and the up/down suspension. Great video!
Those exhaust tips are legendary 😂
Keep the ass from getting sooty
They look awful, like Volvo 1800s wagons (except I really like the rest of the car, on that case). Just personal taste, obviously.
You know nothing about classic cars. Keep on driving your Kia. or K car or...
The_Japanese_Gto they match the angle of your emojis tears lol.
There was 3 Citroën cars in the 70's that had the rather same look (and same hydraulic suspensions) : The medium GS, the big CX, and the exceptional SM.
GS for common people, CX for executives, and the SM for rich people...
The SM was a rare car, and seeing one was always a surprise and a pleasure, especially for kids. "Look, look, an SM !!!" 😯😊👍
I LOVE this car! I had a CX 2400 GTi which shared a few features. The brake 'button' you get used to once you realise it's pressure sensitive. The brakes are also anti-dive which feels weird but reassuring. The steering is self-centreing even when stationary. You can give it full lock at a standstill, let go of the wheel and it will spin back. The steering is very direct, but to counter that the self-centreing force increases massively with speed so it never feels nervous. The suspension despite being soft doesn't detract for it's cornering abilities unless you get seasick and it'll cock a rear wheel like a hot hatch if pushed and being able to raise it a few inches got me through some minor off-roading and deep snow. Seeing as I can't stretch to an SM, I'm off to look for a CX GTi Turbo 2..
Maserati made a 3 litre v6? In a French car? I know nothing.
They were own by Citroen at one time. They also make the merak which is maserati design with bits of citroen
French here, there even was a really high end prototype fitted with a maserati v8
Almost as mad - Lancia Thema 8.32.
That's a four door with a transverse Ferrari engine (from the 308) driving the front wheels.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Thema
The 8.32 was a fantastic car for those who wanted an ordinary looking four door with Ferrari service bills. The stealth retracting boot spoiler keeps it on my wanted list.
Back in time Citroen was more like upmarket brand. Nowadays Citroen has also Jaguar's 2.7 and 3.0 v6 diesels in their c5 and c6 models, also with hydraulic suspension..really a car to remember once you have it.
Dude this car is so weird...I love it.
lol
I drove a *Maseratti Citroen* in L.A. years ago..it was so cool..IT CORNERED IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY...THE HYDROLICS WERE SO SOFT..VERY INTERESTING CAR TO DRIVE. BEAUTIFUL TOO. SMOOTH AND EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE.
I remember my dad had one of these which he bought after having a DS Safari and was that impressed with it. I remember all the kids at school they were absolutely gob smacked and thought it was something out of star trek. The speedo and dashboard was like a spaceship. He then went onto CX Prestiges, they were like little limos. He had to wait for one in black as citroen never did it in black as at the time the French PM was getting driven around in one.. ooh memories .. good ones :)
it wasn't unusual to see these cars on the road in the U.S. in the early 70s, but definitely a cult classic, my grandfather in the early 60s had a Panhard, which was also a great French car
Panhard was a great thing, yes, and influenced Citroen design after they bought Panhard. 17 was (is) a classic by design, and the 24 obviously influenced DS mark-II (1967-75) front.
I'd wished Citroen had built the 850 cc boxer into the 2CV ... these engines were quite strong regarding size and really fuel-efficient.
"The brake pedal is just a rubber nipple." -Matt 2017
I just LOVE this car! Hugs from Portugal
My father had two of them! FANTASTIC automobile!!
This is a french car
Alex! Nice to see him again. Car legend.
People always say that the brakes are weird and a bit scary at first but it’s so easy. I’ve only had my drivers licence for a couple of months and I drove a DS and the brakes are so easy. If you don’t think about it being a weird mushroom, it feels completely normal if not nicer than a normal brake pedal. I absolutely love DSs and SMs, truly some of the most beautiful, cool and cleverest cars ever conceived.
I used to have a matchbox model of this car in my collection as a kid (was born in 73), a metallic light blue one. It stood out from my others and I didn't know why. Now I do, thanks TST
Beautiful car.
What a classic!
OMG. Probably the best car you've had on your channel Matt. Absolutely stunning.
Citroën made wonderful and unique car design in those days. The suspension of the DS, CX, ID and SM is amazing. BTW: The SM‘s brake pedal (thing) is called mushroom. I really would like to own a car of that Citroën SM (or DS) type. Good Video, thanks.
One of my all-time favs. I remember seeing it in R&T... way back then....
Super Nice car.
Citroen Made some off the most beautyfull cars ever made.
This car is so unusual from TST's normally reviewed cars that, for a minute, I thought it was a Jay Leno's garage video on my feed haha
When I was a kid, my mates dad had one of these.
It was awesome. Felt like a king sitting in the back. Smoooooooth
The curb weight for the fuel injected 3L is quoted at 1520kg, hardly heavy for that size of car , especially compared to American coupes of the time.
akashsky118p
Yeah it's pp
A '73 Coup de Ville weighs 2280 kg. The SM is super light.
Alex Roy is the best.
Thanks so much!
The SM is simply a masterpiece.
I used to drive a silver SM (ODP 591M) in the West End of London back in the late 70s. A wonderful car to drive and a real head turner.
If American cars made sense, they would be pneumatic suspension turbodiesels. With galvanized body panels. And stainless fasteners on the underside.
Love the SM! Just bought a couple more, so now maybe enough bits to get one on the road, haha! Cheers from Canada...
coldwarmotors when’s your next vid ?
your video brought me here :-)
why? no new parts?
Good luck. Injection is the best SM
lucky i thought one day i could put my hands on one ,but their hard to find ,and no matter is condition always expensive
I have always loved and been fascinated with the car. It has a wonderfully Gallic nature, at a time when Citroen built cars that were unique and special. Thank you for the "One Take", enjoy these sorts of cars the most.
Unfortunately the money being asked for them puts them out of reach of many enthusiasts like myself, or else I would have one parked in my garage right now. It heads my list of dream cars along with a Citroen DS 23 of the same era and 4.2 litre Series 1 E-Type FHC Jaguar.
Soooo special, nothing is as special as the SM.
Such a cool car!!!
Modern SM: They did. The C6 was made for presidential limousine for Chirac iirc. At least it was super nice to drive in that one time I tried. Also I believe it was the car in Clarksons horse-filming TG test.
Chirac's favorite car was not the C6 but the CX prestige...
barath4545 my heart wanted a c6.... but my brain said. .. not reliable enough.
The most beautiful car in the world for me.
In the Netherlands there still are a lot of them left. Even the 4 doors version!
I am amazed by the knowledge of the owner, respect.
The thumbnail picture already tell me Alex is gonna be here, always a pleasure to watch him, and Matt of course
French cars really have something special in terms of character and this is the best of them quirks and all. I'm of the opinion it is beautiful.
I always wished Citroen had done a deal with Maserati back between 2005 - 2012 when they were making the C6 and created a coupe version with the engine from the Quattroporte. Would have been an instant classic as I believe the C6 will be one day.
Citroën was bankrupt in 1975, and owned by PSA (Peugeot), after this , the newer engines was all Peugeot...The own from Maserati in 1969 was one of the biggest mistakes from Citroën, because the V6 was complete misconcept pack, the other was the Wankel engine made with NSU (use in the NSU Ro80 and the Citroën GS birotor...
God I miss Alex. He's so "no bullshit"
Is he the same guy as the guy in Gumball 3000 with the police BMW M5 ?
That's me! - Alex Roy
Despite being very unreliable these quintessential citroens have great charm. I have an XM D12 and I love it, though I never expected to.
I like how you're driving these uncommon cars lately. Cheers!
woa a french car! drive a renault 5 gt turbo or peugeot 205 gti if you get chance
YourBrother 205 GTI isn't sold in the US. Never have i believe.
Fred Schriks Seen a lot of cars I was not expecting to be over the pond, just thought maybe someone may have one imported perhaps
Renault 5 Turbo/ Turbo 2, the Renault Alpine´s,
The dilemma was always 205 GTi or GT Turbo. I went with the GTT because for not much money you could get 160-170hp. Wicked fun and less likely to leave the road backwards which was good considering the turbo lag. Traded that for an Alpine GTA Turbo which to this day is massively underrated. Got a custom Devil exhaust for mine which made it sound massively faster, and let you hear the turbo spooling up. >;)
Paul Deverill nice one, I remember how fast these cars where one day out the week. You may of experienced differently but reliability was certainly an issue with the turbo'd Renos but my weren't they fun! the 21 was a great car too. My old man had the Gordini
I love this thing. Well, I love many old citroens. The DS was a sensation, and the CX was great as well. These things feel soooo different to everything else on the road. And they were all packed full with innovations. Other cars of the day looked so outdated and oldfashioned, compared to them. My father drove a CX when I was a kid. Every single detail on this car was different to any other car on the market. And it's not just the feel, it's also the technical stuff behind it. The brakes didn't just use a servo to assist the driver, they used a completely different technical approach (which was superior, back in the day). Same goes for the power steering, same goes for the suspension, same goes for cockpit design. When you sit down in a CX for the first time, you won't find ANYTHING where you expect it to be. Even the inside door handles/releases were different (and actually: great). Citroens approaches were often genious, but somehow never established in the industry.
Personally, I own an old Citroen XM. It isn't as special in all its details, as the older cars were. But it's still got a brilliant suspension which outclasses every affordable modern car BY MILES, when it comes to comfort.
Unfortunatelly, Citroens Heydays are over now. A modern citroen doesn't look or feel much different to any other car on the market. Which is probably why sales numbers recently went up... unfortunatelly. The market doesn't seem to want any different cars. Nowadays, all the innovation takes place at Mercedes and BMW. Citroen has just become a cheaper alternative.
Didn't Peugeot buy them out some years ago?
@@califdad4 Decades ago.
@@emjayay that was my Some years, Decades LOL
That V6 sounds good from the cabin.
The hand movements and all this talk about jacking rods has got me excited this morning! 😆
This is one the greatest One Takes ever. Do more more cars that are weird af.
If you don't like this car then you've obviously missed out on GTA V.
true dat
Man O War Lampadati Pegalli!
i was wondering why it looked so familiar
They based that of the Maserati Indy though.
Man O War I love that car lol. Yellow headlight lol
I enjoy The Smoking Tire videos, and while most of the cars Matt tests are rather high performance, this video of the Citroen is a real gem. Loved it.
Modern Citroen, you need to have a look at this n let the nostalgia take you over.
In 1974 someone on my street (in Rome) had one of these - and parked it in the street! Even then it was as exotic as hell - the driver side window always had little boy nose prints. Sorry about that.
I'd love one - 50K sounds very reasonable (compared to a DS convertible it's a steal)...if I had 50K. And it would be my second 50K, coz I need a proper sports car 1st.
Dreams.
Fabulous.
When I’ve loaned my Citroen to friends I always warn them to wear a seatbelt, not necessarily for safety of a crash but to stop them going through the windscreen the first time they hit the brakes at the end of the road 😬
my all time dream car
Just absolutely absolutely love the SM
Actually, The President of France was shot at with 140 rounds of ammunition, two motorcycle guards were killed, glass on the car shattered, and all tires were shot out. Because of the Hydro-Pneumatic suspension, the chauffeur was able to drive back to safety
@Descartes rené
Oui, c'était une DS, mais cette voiture a été capable de rouler et accélérer avec les 4 pneus crevés ...
"LEAVE IT ON, just in case!" That sums up this car.
I love the banter in this, the guests really do play a huge role in a good one take
"It's actually got pretty good grip too!"
*Understeers towards oncoming traffic*
"I spoke too soon"
Longitudinal engine and front wheel drive, one of those kinds of oddballs
Audi also has the same setup
Except Audis have the engine in front of the axle, this is front-mid-engined...
A lot of car manufacturers used a longitudinal engine with FWD, not many put engine behind the transmission, though. Saab and Citroen are the only two that I'm aware of that put the engine behind the axle. Cadillac, Acura, Subaru, and many others used longitudinal engine layouts with FWD.
The Renault 4L has the same "transmission in front of the engine" layout...
idontcare80 Don't forget the Oldsmobile Toronado that came before Cadillac's Eldorado.
Remember Burt Reynolds in the Longest yard.
Karl Napp GREAT car chase scene!!!
Dont you take my Maserati! Haha they never mentioned the name Citroen in the film. Shame really
every time I see one of these, I think of that Movie
SM's are even rare in EU now, i love it, thanks matt !!
Absolutely bonkers car but now I have to add it to the bucket list. Look at those cross-eyed exhausts. Crazy
Does it come with croissant holders.
One ashtray per seat.
Outstanding automobile
Nice to see a guy who knows his car, and that doesn`t sit silently, nervous, awkwardly looking at the camera, or his phone..
I love this car, I remember seeing on in SF as a kid in the 90s. My jaw hit the floor! Love the video thanks for posting!
Jason Clark It is something different. And that's what i like in a car.
"This thing has good grip, doesn't it?" *tires squeal suddenly as a little bit more steering input is applied*
they squeal ,but that´s it ,no problem
Hell yeah Alex Roy
That's very sweet. - Alex
This was really fun episode! What a crazy car, Citroen were masters in those days, but I must admit I didn't know about SM, first time seeing it! Everyone knows about DS, but SM :) When I was a kid our family car was Citroen Dyane or 2CV, it is incredible how many amazing memories are tied to that car, unforgettable, I'll take them to the grave!
Rare Kojak spotting!
Finally!! A major car channel reviews a citroen hahah I got me a citroen zx 2.0 turbo diesel makes a baby 190 hp!!
Jonesy.Jo yeah right. More like 90
na dude swapped from top mount intercooler to a front mount, bigger injectors bigger turbo (garret gt25r) running 29 psi!! All on stock internals... Wont be long till she blows hahah
I don't think so. The same 2 liter block now produces 180 bhp in latest model like Peugeot 3008 and 5008
And 135 HP out of a PSA1600 diesel.
Beautiful car!.
In 94 a friend of mine did some work on my car, in the back of his shed was a Citroen sm in bits, the full car, he wanted 7k for it, I wish I'd bought it!.
Just love it...brilliant, well spoken and humble guest + great car. What's not to love...
Pretty sure I can't forgive you for not showing that shifter linkage in action...
More 70s oddballs please!
Two of the best people together in an awesome car. All is well.
Great video.... Love the mushroom brake button that you squeeze and the whole car squats... Stable and sensational stopping power...
And the two turns lock to lock power self centring speed sensitive steering. And that magic ride... Sensational dream machine.
I bet that car smells amazing.
god i love alex!!!!!
Thanks so much. - Alex
I loved my SM.... Best car I ever owned.
Loved watching this guy on the Bullrun Cops, cars & superstars
you have to drive one to get it
remember that the car was built in the 70's during the gas crisis
zero camber on the wheels
fun