Finally, a video about actual tarmacadam! Seems to be a lost art here in the States, everything is asphalt and folks assume you mean asphalt when you mention tarmac. Thanks for posting!
How refreshing it is to actually see some lads on the tools, instead of playing about with machine mounted breakers etc. After which the job usually ends looking like a right dogs breakfast. Excellent.
Should of used taccoat on all vertical edges on both base and wearing course. Edges were not compacted with roller on both base course and wearing should of vibrated both ways then dead roll to finish to ensure patch stays in..never brush the road into your edges always brush away into a pile and pick up with a shovel :)
And another one who doesn't bother to read the context, just rattle on with your self-confirmed superior knowledge, don't bother with the spec or the job brief, you know best.....
Why would they learn, they do and have to cut corners and piss poor mm of base on broken roads... Corruption is killing the common man and std infrastructure.
Hi, great video and what I would expect a repair to look like at the end. We’re have a lot of patch repairs carried out around our village and I’d like to ask a few questions if you don’t mind, as what’s being done looks pi$$ poor. When preparing an area, you use the blade to cut the outline of the area. Our guys are just hammering it out, which means there isn’t a straight edge to any repaired area. Would this effect the strength and longevity of the repair? Where the new surface has be relaid and rolled, how level should the new surface be with the existing? Most of our repairs are raised above the original surface and on some joints the repair is actually below the original surface. Is this acceptable? Should repairs be sealed around?
Except that's not me. I was injured and have been permanently disabled since well before that was filmed, as is documented on my website. I'll admit to holding the camera, but my days of barrowing and raking are long gone. Still, it's fun to mock a disabled person, eh?
@@TonyMcCormack My comment was about the road surface not about you. Why is this kind of work done without something like a straight edge to make sure the surface is actually flat? I can't believe that in the 21C we are still patching critical infrastructure by guesswork.
1. The excess tarmac shouldn't be swept onto the patch after being raked, sweep along the edge and discard waste. 2. The edges of the patch should be trapped in with the roller before completing and only use vibe when reversing, it's neater. 3. Turn off the vibe before reaching the edge of the patch, the vibe damages the existing surface and can cause the edges to crack. And why didn't you compact the edges on the base course?
Every gang has their preferred way of working. This video shows how one gang carry out their patching prior to slurry sealing. Their work was monitored and approved by the appropriate Highways' Inspector. Take up your concerns with them.....
Hi Tony. Been a long time visiter to the site, from my years training as an apprentice to now being a practising engineer, but never knew you had these videos. A quick question regarding this patch: you didn't mention anything about painting the joint face with sealant at all? Was it just time constraints on the video, or do the council not specify it?
+Craig Schofield It's discussed in the accompanying web-page text. Because there was to be a slurry seal coat applied over the entire surface on completion of the patches, no jointing primer or over-banding was allegedly required.I didn't agree with this, neither did the lads doing the repairs who know they'll be back in 12 months time doing it all again, but when cost is the only criteria, and not quality or service life, this is the sort of job you end up with., sadly.
Tony McCormack if it’s getting slurry sealed which we used in past why didn’t you’s just use a 14mm base and just base and top it with the 14mm base aswel saves money aswel as the base is cheaper m8t
That's the better way to repair. We replace the bloody trash old South Asian culture with this repair method in Malaya 20 years ago. We still have problem with the old trash culture with the Telco, Electric contractors. 😓
how come you leave the edge ramped like that did you cross roll it all? probably not nor was a wacker plate used around edge probably not.. and get another rake man he's blind
Yeas, it was cxross-rolled, and no plate compactor was used. Funnily enough, the client and main contractor are more than happy with the rake-hand's work. Little bit of jealousy, perhaps?
In Australia, not unusual to see the stupid council bastards shuck some mix into a hole after removing loose junk, then jumping on it themselves, problem is the patch on a patch last 1 hour tops in bad weather, then they patch that a week later after pothole bigger and more patch on a patch.
Because we routinely use macadam (bitmac) for small, residential roads and footpaths. Asphalt (increasingly SMA) is used for heavily trafficked carriageways.
From my website .... Macadams are all based on the principle of an aggregate coated with a binder, usually bitumen, hence "bituminous macadam". Asphalts are a mixture of asphaltic cement or mortar (often a bitumen with fine aggregates such as sands and grits) and some coarser aggregate, such as gravel or crushed rock. - www.pavingexpert.com/tarmac01.htm#types
And in Dallas Texas they just heap up the asphalt, way over the top, and that’s it. It dries to a massive speed bump in the middle of a street. The idiots in Dallas think it’s okay, cause the road workers keep on doing it this way for years, and no one ever corrects the way they do their work. Absolutely pathetic repairs.
It's held for almost two years now, and, with the surface dressing in place, you can't even tell where the patch repair is located. I'd call that a success.
Try working for a small residentail company for a couple years. They always need laborers. Then apply to a big union company show them u have experience n ull get hired. Thats what I did but it took me 4 years finally I got a call working for the biggest road construction company in the Country
Pottasium Dichromate I guess alot depends where u live and experience. But my advice would be to join the union. Go to ur local union hall and enroll alot of companies want u to be in the union first. I make $32 an hour right now
Could have just resurfaced the entire road a micro dressing will become worser in a few months then ur back to square one. Do it once and right just saying
Yet the highways assessor responsible for signing off the work and in effect guaranteeing payment to the contractor seems to have disagreed with you. Four years after the patch was undertaken, I can still see none of this "sag" you report and, although you probably won't believe it, the road is still perfectly serviceable. I know, because it's directly outside my daughter's home!
@@TonyMcCormack hi Tony,is there Any book just your book on block paving? Where asphalt re-instatemwnt shown start to finish? I bought your for block paving but would like to know about asphalt re-instatemwnt as. Well.
@@desdas3941 Because there are, literally, hundreds of different methods, materials and techniques, there's not one single book I could suggest that I could honestly say covers it all. Something such as 'Roadworks' ( amzn.to/312w3W1 ) might be a good place to start.
No. It is NOT a concrete road. It is a bitmac road - a specialised form of asphalt (bitumen) mixed with stone that is used to build the overwhelming majority of roads in Britain, Ireland and most of Europe.
@@TonyMcCormack Why not use concrete? That looks a mess and undoubtedly, as water or frost gets into the material, it will break up especially after heavy vehicles drive over it...
@@jakehowie442 It's a macadam public carriageway. Why would you introduce a different surfacing? Further, a macadam patch can be trafficked within the hour whereas concrete patching would need to be kept free of traffic for a week at the very least. It may sometimes be hard to believe, but, generally speaking, highways engineers *do* know what they are doing!
@@TonyMcCormack What lasts longer though? That macadam from Newcastle or concrete. Concrete is much more durable, so you should have just relayed the whole section of the road.
@@jakehowie442 The macadam is not from Newcastle. Why would you think that? You are not familiar with the site, nor the project aims, the budgets, the other works taking place in the immediate area, the local logistics and the medium/long-term plan for the carriageway under repair. You're welcome to your opinion, but your opinion, in this case, is worthless.
Finally, a video about actual tarmacadam! Seems to be a lost art here in the States, everything is asphalt and folks assume you mean asphalt when you mention tarmac. Thanks for posting!
How refreshing it is to actually see some lads on the tools, instead of playing about with machine mounted breakers etc. After which the job usually ends looking like a right dogs breakfast. Excellent.
Excellent work lads now come into Staffordshire, fed up of just hole filling
Am I the only one who loves the dumping Sound?? Omg 😍
Should of used taccoat on all vertical edges on both base and wearing course.
Edges were not compacted with roller on both base course and wearing should of vibrated both ways then dead roll to finish to ensure patch stays in..never brush the road into your edges always brush away into a pile and pick up with a shovel :)
And another one who doesn't bother to read the context, just rattle on with your self-confirmed superior knowledge, don't bother with the spec or the job brief, you know best.....
Wouldn't use taccoat on the edges, underneath maybe? Looks like a spot on job to me. Did you cement wash after if it was getting surfaced dressed?
Nice job I like the old people they perfect and great 👍🏼
If I keep watching these videos, eventually I'll be able to calculate how many holes it would take to fill Albert Hall.
I remember the heat coming off of the pavement, and taste, as well as the squishy feeling of the asphalt.
For one get rid of that barrow pushed,them tips are awful..no edge compaction on base,no joint paint and sack the fella on the roller
Amazing I wish Indian govt learn from these guys.
Its not good to patch roads these lads will be back next year doing it over again not there fault the council cheap out and only pay for patching
Why would they learn, they do and have to cut corners and piss poor mm of base on broken roads... Corruption is killing the common man and std infrastructure.
Hi, great video and what I would expect a repair to look like at the end.
We’re have a lot of patch repairs carried out around our village and I’d like to ask a few questions if you don’t mind, as what’s being done looks pi$$ poor.
When preparing an area, you use the blade to cut the outline of the area. Our guys are just hammering it out, which means there isn’t a straight edge to any repaired area. Would this effect the strength and longevity of the repair?
Where the new surface has be relaid and rolled, how level should the new surface be with the existing? Most of our repairs are raised above the original surface and on some joints the repair is actually below the original surface. Is this acceptable?
Should repairs be sealed around?
So this is why the roads are becoming less flat. The sum total of the leveling effort is how much tarmac Tony happens to have in his barrow.
Except that's not me. I was injured and have been permanently disabled since well before that was filmed, as is documented on my website. I'll admit to holding the camera, but my days of barrowing and raking are long gone. Still, it's fun to mock a disabled person, eh?
@@TonyMcCormack My comment was about the road surface not about you. Why is this kind of work done without something like a straight edge to make sure the surface is actually flat? I can't believe that in the 21C we are still patching critical infrastructure by guesswork.
First day on the roller!! 🤣
Egsactly what I thought haha 💩💩💩
Very nice job.
In Devon we just wait and fill the pot holes with snow and freezing water..... simples
1. The excess tarmac shouldn't be swept onto the patch after being raked, sweep along the edge and discard waste.
2. The edges of the patch should be trapped in with the roller before completing and only use vibe when reversing, it's neater.
3. Turn off the vibe before reaching the edge of the patch, the vibe damages the existing surface and can cause the edges to crack.
And why didn't you compact the edges on the base course?
Every gang has their preferred way of working. This video shows how one gang carry out their patching prior to slurry sealing. Their work was monitored and approved by the appropriate Highways' Inspector. Take up your concerns with them.....
@@TonyMcCormack sack the inspector.
The comment i was looking for 👏
That road surface is so bad it would have been cheaper to dig it all up!, end up looking like a patchwork quilt!
Hi Tony. Been a long time visiter to the site, from my years training as an apprentice to now being a practising engineer, but never knew you had these videos. A quick question regarding this patch: you didn't mention anything about painting the joint face with sealant at all? Was it just time constraints on the video, or do the council not specify it?
+Craig Schofield It's discussed in the accompanying web-page text. Because there was to be a slurry seal coat applied over the entire surface on completion of the patches, no jointing primer or over-banding was allegedly required.I didn't agree with this, neither did the lads doing the repairs who know they'll be back in 12 months time doing it all again, but when cost is the only criteria, and not quality or service life, this is the sort of job you end up with., sadly.
Tony McCormack if it’s getting slurry sealed which we used in past why didn’t you’s just use a 14mm base and just base and top it with the 14mm base aswel saves money aswel as the base is cheaper m8t
This is my work mates. Non even remember being filmed. When did you record this?
The date is there on the video - 7th July 2015 almost 6 years ago, now!
Hmm I wonder why they don't pinch the edges on the top lift ?
That's the better way to repair. We replace the bloody trash old South Asian culture with this repair method in Malaya 20 years ago. We still have problem with the old trash culture with the Telco, Electric contractors. 😓
Kenapa ga d sabungin ja pembongkaranya biar hasilnya lebih bagus lg
no liquid bond on edges ?????
I'm an apprentice - was wondering why a binder course wasn't laid
It's ALL binder course.
The edges are all broken look carefully at it was a perfect job there wouldn't be NY broken edges were water could get in
Nice
how come you leave the edge ramped like that did you cross roll it all? probably not nor was a wacker plate used around edge probably not.. and get another rake man he's blind
Yeas, it was cxross-rolled, and no plate compactor was used. Funnily enough, the client and main contractor are more than happy with the rake-hand's work. Little bit of jealousy, perhaps?
Lol 😂 makes me want to get a go pro and show people how to pave or patch
why is the edge not sealed?
Please read some of the other comments where this issue is fully addressed.
No cold pour and no punned edges tut tut
Read the explanatory text
In Australia, not unusual to see the stupid council bastards shuck some mix into a hole after removing loose junk, then jumping on it themselves, problem is the patch on a patch last 1 hour tops in bad weather, then they patch that a week later after pothole bigger and more patch on a patch.
I didn't realize until 2:30ish that these guys are actually speaking English.
Where's the banding then that should be applied around the patch ,not a perfect job after all
What do you guys prefer? A single or Double roller?
I'd always use a double drum when available, but many repair gangs only have access to a single drum/pedestrian roller and have no choice.
Why isn't asphalt used instead?
Because we routinely use macadam (bitmac) for small, residential roads and footpaths. Asphalt (increasingly SMA) is used for heavily trafficked carriageways.
Legal
TONY, How different is tarmacadam compared to HRA if any.
From my website .... Macadams are all based on the principle of an aggregate coated with a binder, usually bitumen, hence "bituminous macadam". Asphalts are a mixture of asphaltic cement or mortar (often a bitumen with fine aggregates such as sands and grits) and some coarser aggregate, such as gravel or crushed rock. - www.pavingexpert.com/tarmac01.htm#types
those fumes are pretty noxious I guess
And in Dallas Texas they just heap up the asphalt, way over the top, and that’s it. It dries to a massive speed bump in the middle of a street. The idiots in Dallas think it’s okay, cause the road workers keep on doing it this way for years, and no one ever corrects the way they do their work. Absolutely pathetic repairs.
No tack coat
Read the explanatory text
its not holding for long
It's held for almost two years now, and, with the surface dressing in place, you can't even tell where the patch repair is located. I'd call that a success.
how can I get a job like this ?
apply to Warrington highways depth.
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Try working for a small residentail company for a couple years. They always need laborers. Then apply to a big union company show them u have experience n ull get hired. Thats what I did but it took me 4 years finally I got a call working for the biggest road construction company in the Country
George Pirelli is the pay good? I'm curious
Pottasium Dichromate I guess alot depends where u live and experience. But my advice would be to join the union. Go to ur local union hall and enroll alot of companies want u to be in the union first. I make $32 an hour right now
Sir
Plz give me Name of that machine use as a Roller
It's a 28" Pedestrian Roller with jack-hammer atachment. Pretty standard kit in Britain and Ireland.
@@TonyMcCormack
Thank you 👍
Could have just resurfaced the entire road a micro dressing will become worser in a few months then ur back to square one. Do it once and right just saying
Then tell the local authority - I have no control over how they carry out such repairs. All I do is document the process.
Tony McCormack lol your the one filming and telling me to inform them. I'm sure you must have told them at the time
The patch has a sag in it. Not enough asphalt brought in, too much compaction.
Yet the highways assessor responsible for signing off the work and in effect guaranteeing payment to the contractor seems to have disagreed with you.
Four years after the patch was undertaken, I can still see none of this "sag" you report and, although you probably won't believe it, the road is still perfectly serviceable. I know, because it's directly outside my daughter's home!
@@TonyMcCormack HAHAH that burn though
How deep to dig out ?
It depends on the surface being patched but never less than 75mm or so
@@TonyMcCormack hi Tony,is there Any book just your book on block paving? Where asphalt re-instatemwnt shown start to finish? I bought your for block paving but would like to know about asphalt re-instatemwnt as. Well.
@@desdas3941 Because there are, literally, hundreds of different methods, materials and techniques, there's not one single book I could suggest that I could honestly say covers it all. Something such as 'Roadworks' ( amzn.to/312w3W1 ) might be a good place to start.
They filled the hole with asphalt but it is a concrete road
No. It is NOT a concrete road. It is a bitmac road - a specialised form of asphalt (bitumen) mixed with stone that is used to build the overwhelming majority of roads in Britain, Ireland and most of Europe.
discord brought me here
This is so bad for your health
terrible cheap material will break-up by next winter...
Yet, despite your undoubted expertise, here we are 5, almost 6, years later, and the repair is intact and performing exactly as intended! Strange, eh?
@@TonyMcCormack Why not use concrete? That looks a mess and undoubtedly, as water or frost gets into the material, it will break up especially after heavy vehicles drive over it...
@@jakehowie442 It's a macadam public carriageway. Why would you introduce a different surfacing? Further, a macadam patch can be trafficked within the hour whereas concrete patching would need to be kept free of traffic for a week at the very least. It may sometimes be hard to believe, but, generally speaking, highways engineers *do* know what they are doing!
@@TonyMcCormack What lasts longer though? That macadam from Newcastle or concrete. Concrete is much more durable, so you should have just relayed the whole section of the road.
@@jakehowie442 The macadam is not from Newcastle. Why would you think that? You are not familiar with the site, nor the project aims, the budgets, the other works taking place in the immediate area, the local logistics and the medium/long-term plan for the carriageway under repair. You're welcome to your opinion, but your opinion, in this case, is worthless.
who the fk is adam xD
Too tideous and time consuming!! Chipfill and Aggrefill are the way of the Future!!! 😎👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🎓🎓🎓🦺🦺🦺