True. If it had a good perk system, the classic point system, less aggressive zombies and less complicated and annoying easter eggs (DE, ZNS and GK imo had the best EE's - not too easy, not too difficult and also not overly complicated for no reason) it could have been potentially surpassed bo3. I also think they should have focused entirely on aether or chaos. Having 2 different stories at the same time simply doesn't work.
@ I have no issue with the complicated Easter eggs personally. I actually prefer them being more complicated. But, I do think there’s a few EE steps that should’ve been adjusted a little bit.
What hurts more is how BO4 Zombies plans were supposed to go, but because these are rumors, I'll use the Pastebin (grain of salt in-case) because it's interesting of how it was supposed to playout: Black Ops Pass 1: - Dead of the Night - Ancient Evil - Alpha Omega (Free) - Tag Der Toten (Free) -Two Scrapped Chaos Maps Black Ops Pass 2: -Green Run -Great Leap Forward -Two Scrapped Free Chaos Maps -Resolution 1295 -The Great War (Finale Aether Map) Other Stuff: - Zombies Chronicles 2 was never planned under Treyarch, despite the Comic Con question regardless about ZC2 + the memes surrounding the idea, there was never a ZC2 planned in Treyarch’s Books. - Chaos only existed because it was their new map ideas to begin with and Aether was always planned to end with Remakes (Zombies Chronicles 2 technically) because Treyarch hit a crossroads where creating new Aether maps would lead to open more story gaps. - Great War was always planned as the Finale Aether map, despite claims about Tag Der Toten being theorized being the final Aether map from Revelations are dubious. - The Vicits Remakes would been Victis doing Pylons like Richtofen & Maxis, but this time being Undead Richtofen & Primis Nikolai’s scheming that would’ve lead to the Great War - Victis wasn’t supposed to appear in Tag, as the narrative was changed. - AO and Tag were originally supposed to have CG Cutscenes. Many believed the 2D Art Cutscenes were from Budget Cuts, but turns out it was not the case. Both Scripts for AO & Tag were written under a short notice in a few months of what it was planned. AO’s Intro cutscene wouldn’t work out in CG, which is basically like DE’s Cutscene. - Alpha Omega has Victis Elements slapped in and the Round Change and Game Over Music heard in the map were meant to be for the Tranzit remake. Speaking of Tranzit, it was finished in BO3 but pushed into BO4 and reworked like the rest of BO4 Aether Maps. Blaze Phase Perk was designed for Tranzit because of open area around the map. - Chaos would’ve ended if reached to its conclusion, would reveal Scarlet, her Father, and family in a reveal. It would show a reveal about Scarlet being a a mythical figure instead of her being a human specimen. Continuing Chaos wouldn’t work out because of its character narrative. Storyline stuff: - Ultimis serves no purpose in the story, as they would’ve freeze to death in Tag’s Ending Cutscene and Victis back in Alcatraz would be awaken from their chambers by Undead Richtofen. Everything between Alpha and Tag were written between a few months. - As for characters, Victis, Primis Nikolai, Undead Richtofen would’ve been the main characters and the main real villain would’ve been Dr. Monty. - The story goes for Aether is that Victis would’ve been waken into their status from their cryogenic chambers by Undead Richtofen and Primis Nikolai having the knowledge that he as to keep his soul to fight in the Great War. Anon leak states in their opinion if this was planned, it would’ve taken place in an alternate Great War, where they defeat Dr. Monty using Primis Nikolai’s Soul while Undead Richtofen would’ve manipulated Victis to help them along the way in the Grand Finale. This could’ve been what it was planned before the scripts were written shortly between AO and Tag, as to end off Aether with Tag der Toten under a bittersweet note. While the pastebin's source is sketchy, it's gives an idea of how BO4 Zombies would've been golden, had the game didn't had a messy development behind the scenes.
I just bought bo4 on eBay for £4 because it's the only treyarch game I don't own. I did play it around its launch and enjoyed playing nine but haven't touched it in years. Looking forward to revisiting it tbh.
i think about this games failure all the time i plan on touching on the zombies maps that were cut in a video that kind of explains where zombies is as a mode rn and i think this is a perfect way of putting it all together!
I bought bo4 and I love it (was on a sale) but I also discovered the game would have been stacked in terms of zombies, no Library of Alexandria map or ZC2 like intended and that hurts, especially the chaos story side since that story got done dirty. Also Scarlett Rhodes is the hottest
I hope that we get leaks for bo4 like we did for bo2 like whole builds for unreleased maps and stuff. I highly doubt it though. So much potential and so mismanaged
BO4 zombies is so underrated. Imo the zombies community ruined that game from having a fit because blood of the dead wasn’t the exact carbon copy of mob and that we didn’t have juggernaut anymore. B04 zombies should still be going strong like B03 zombies but noooo the community wanted to abandon it and act like it was the worse ever. B04 was better than Cold War zombies and the community knows it
I liked a lot of what bo4 did, but the perk system was such a downgrade. Being locked to the 4 perks you chose before the game felt so limiting. Location of perks stopped mattering as much too which took identity out of areas.
Bo4 would have been good if they did a campaign n no black out, and transfer bo3 zombie system to bo4 n just make it better... Bo3 3 hit system was fresh and the sliding everything bout bo3 felt new and we spent 3 games with the 2 hit system why change it with one...I spent my money on bo4 n the dlc and was so mad even to this day I maybe have 80 hours total on it of just trying my hardest to like it for what it is but zombies just sucked so bad I get why ppl like it map wise but the actual bo4 systems from the perks to the 4 hits was so awful...I dont ever buy perks in bo4 and I would make it to round 40 easy back in bo 1 n 2 and even 3 thats wild...but yet in bo4 its pretty easy...the ee were not easy tho felt like thats the only good thing about bo4 and even then alone 5 percent of players do ee...all this killed bo4 it old sold like 14 mil
One of my favorite Zombies modes, but if it fixed a few of those major flaws, I think it had potential to the best mode of all time for most people.
True. If it had a good perk system, the classic point system, less aggressive zombies and less complicated and annoying easter eggs (DE, ZNS and GK imo had the best EE's - not too easy, not too difficult and also not overly complicated for no reason) it could have been potentially surpassed bo3. I also think they should have focused entirely on aether or chaos. Having 2 different stories at the same time simply doesn't work.
@ I have no issue with the complicated Easter eggs personally. I actually prefer them being more complicated. But, I do think there’s a few EE steps that should’ve been adjusted a little bit.
What hurts more is how BO4 Zombies plans were supposed to go, but because these are rumors, I'll use the Pastebin (grain of salt in-case) because it's interesting of how it was supposed to playout:
Black Ops Pass 1:
- Dead of the Night
- Ancient Evil
- Alpha Omega (Free)
- Tag Der Toten (Free)
-Two Scrapped Chaos Maps
Black Ops Pass 2:
-Green Run
-Great Leap Forward
-Two Scrapped Free Chaos Maps
-Resolution 1295
-The Great War (Finale Aether Map)
Other Stuff:
- Zombies Chronicles 2 was never planned under Treyarch, despite the Comic Con question regardless about ZC2 + the memes surrounding the idea, there was never a ZC2 planned in Treyarch’s Books.
- Chaos only existed because it was their new map ideas to begin with and Aether was always planned to end with Remakes (Zombies Chronicles 2 technically) because Treyarch hit a crossroads where creating new Aether maps would lead to open more story gaps.
- Great War was always planned as the Finale Aether map, despite claims about Tag Der Toten being theorized being the final Aether map from Revelations are dubious.
- The Vicits Remakes would been Victis doing Pylons like Richtofen & Maxis, but this time being Undead Richtofen & Primis Nikolai’s scheming that would’ve lead to the Great War
- Victis wasn’t supposed to appear in Tag, as the narrative was changed.
- AO and Tag were originally supposed to have CG Cutscenes. Many believed the 2D Art Cutscenes were from Budget Cuts, but turns out it was not the case. Both Scripts for AO & Tag were written under a short notice in a few months of what it was planned. AO’s Intro cutscene wouldn’t work out in CG, which is basically like DE’s Cutscene.
- Alpha Omega has Victis Elements slapped in and the Round Change and Game Over Music heard in the map were meant to be for the Tranzit remake. Speaking of Tranzit, it was finished in BO3 but pushed into BO4 and reworked like the rest of BO4 Aether Maps. Blaze Phase Perk was designed for Tranzit because of open area around the map.
- Chaos would’ve ended if reached to its conclusion, would reveal Scarlet, her Father, and family in a reveal. It would show a reveal about Scarlet being a a mythical figure instead of her being a human specimen. Continuing Chaos wouldn’t work out because of its character narrative.
Storyline stuff:
- Ultimis serves no purpose in the story, as they would’ve freeze to death in Tag’s Ending Cutscene and Victis back in Alcatraz would be awaken from their chambers by Undead Richtofen. Everything between Alpha and Tag were written between a few months.
- As for characters, Victis, Primis Nikolai, Undead Richtofen would’ve been the main characters and the main real villain would’ve been Dr. Monty.
- The story goes for Aether is that Victis would’ve been waken into their status from their cryogenic chambers by Undead Richtofen and Primis Nikolai having the knowledge that he as to keep his soul to fight in the Great War. Anon leak states in their opinion if this was planned, it would’ve taken place in an alternate Great War, where they defeat Dr. Monty using Primis Nikolai’s Soul while Undead Richtofen would’ve manipulated Victis to help them along the way in the Grand Finale. This could’ve been what it was planned before the scripts were written shortly between AO and Tag, as to end off Aether with Tag der Toten under a bittersweet note.
While the pastebin's source is sketchy, it's gives an idea of how BO4 Zombies would've been golden, had the game didn't had a messy development behind the scenes.
We heard all this stuff back when BO4 was still the current game, so I suspect 99% of it is true or “basically” the truth
The most criminal thing about BO4 zombies is the ultimate cliffhanger they left off on the Chaos story
Well now chaos is canon to Bo6 story so we’ll see
I just bought bo4 on eBay for £4 because it's the only treyarch game I don't own. I did play it around its launch and enjoyed playing nine but haven't touched it in years. Looking forward to revisiting it tbh.
i think about this games failure all the time i plan on touching on the zombies maps that were cut in a video that kind of explains where zombies is as a mode rn and i think this is a perfect way of putting it all together!
Great video as always Ducky 🐤 thanks for this. Had a long ass day and this made it better. And glad you brought the verses back. 🙏
I bought bo4 and I love it (was on a sale) but I also discovered the game would have been stacked in terms of zombies, no Library of Alexandria map or ZC2 like intended and that hurts, especially the chaos story side since that story got done dirty.
Also Scarlett Rhodes is the hottest
Yay duck
Babe, wake up, Drrpy uploaded
I remember being a huge hater of Dead of The Night but i started to play it more and it has earned its spot in my top 5
I still believe the community would be in a better place if Chaos continued
Très drôle la vidéo j’ai bien kiffé
I just wish that they port it to steam so that I could have it in my collection and play it again
I hope that we get leaks for bo4 like we did for bo2 like whole builds for unreleased maps and stuff. I highly doubt it though. So much potential and so mismanaged
I like Bo4Z because its super hectic
Check out my EE runs :)
I’m gonna start doing a “multitude” counter for your videos. You use that word a lot 😂 no hate! Great video!
Dont look too hard, however is another one 😭
I was here.
Second view, first like, hell yeah 🗣️
BO4 zombies is so underrated. Imo the zombies community ruined that game from having a fit because blood of the dead wasn’t the exact carbon copy of mob and that we didn’t have juggernaut anymore. B04 zombies should still be going strong like B03 zombies but noooo the community wanted to abandon it and act like it was the worse ever. B04 was better than Cold War zombies and the community knows it
Black ops 4 came out before covid, modern warfare suffered because of covid
I liked a lot of what bo4 did, but the perk system was such a downgrade. Being locked to the 4 perks you chose before the game felt so limiting. Location of perks stopped mattering as much too which took identity out of areas.
Can you do cod mobile zombies
Bo4 is like the perfect balance of modern and old school zombies.
Well it not rushed. It easier to make simple hud simple gameplay than ruin it continuously
Bo4 would have been good if they did a campaign n no black out, and transfer bo3 zombie system to bo4 n just make it better...
Bo3 3 hit system was fresh and the sliding everything bout bo3 felt new and we spent 3 games with the 2 hit system why change it with one...I spent my money on bo4 n the dlc and was so mad even to this day I maybe have 80 hours total on it of just trying my hardest to like it for what it is but zombies just sucked so bad I get why ppl like it map wise but the actual bo4 systems from the perks to the 4 hits was so awful...I dont ever buy perks in bo4 and I would make it to round 40 easy back in bo 1 n 2 and even 3 thats wild...but yet in bo4 its pretty easy...the ee were not easy tho felt like thats the only good thing about bo4 and even then alone 5 percent of players do ee...all this killed bo4 it old sold like 14 mil
Bo6 is the best cod even
Bo4 is better than every other zombies but bo3 I said what I said
You never played bo1?