Heat Pump - Out of Hot Water!? 🤦‍♂️

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  • @ElectricVehicleMan
    @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This should be obvious but it gets asked pretty much every day! Plus I’ve never done a short before! 😄

    • @Adeleisha
      @Adeleisha ปีที่แล้ว

      Great short! Actually interesting and myth-busting. 👍🏻

  • @Richardincancale
    @Richardincancale ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Daikin heat pump has a 230 litre tank, haven’t managed to run it cold yet! But it has sensors at two different levels and you can program it to go into water heating mode automatically if the lower half of the tank is below a set point. As with you there is an immersion heater option, but only there as a backup in case of failure or can be wired to a solar energy diverter system.

  • @Adeleisha
    @Adeleisha ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes I just 🤦🏻‍♀️ when people ask questions like this, specifically when it’s asked sarcastically. What do people with non-combi gas boilers do when they run out of hot water? Exactly the same…

  • @NorthernMonkeeUK
    @NorthernMonkeeUK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shocking, it's EXACTLY the same as I do with my 24yr old oil boiler and thermal store. Some people seem to think heat pumps are some mystical wizardry, when infact they're based on tried and tested technology.

  • @mcdon2401
    @mcdon2401 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's almost like the engineers knew that running out of water was a possibility, and planned a contingency 🤔.
    Guess that's why we have engineers designing that sorta stuff instead of doomsayers from t'interwebz...

  • @Alice_1411
    @Alice_1411 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hope the video quality is ok I filmed it and have quite shaky hands 😅😂

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba ปีที่แล้ว

      wasn't obvious, thought it was on a tripod.

    • @Alice_1411
      @Alice_1411 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx

    • @neilm9400
      @neilm9400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Alice_1411 did you get paid ? Maybe worth joining a union for better collective bargaining power 😂

    • @Alice_1411
      @Alice_1411 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@neilm9400 I did not get paid but I obviously did amazing and definitely should 🤣

    • @Straykids_made_me_stay_8
      @Straykids_made_me_stay_8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ITS ALEXANDRA

  • @JanNovak-pg8oe
    @JanNovak-pg8oe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ours, if it is in WARM WATER or HEAT PUMP mode, will just start the compresor and heat up the tank on its own.

  • @geoffreycoan
    @geoffreycoan ปีที่แล้ว

    Caveat that this is dependent upon the Heat Pump model. I have an LG ASHP and there’s no app/remote control and the ASHP control panel (which is handily in my loft) was clearly programmed by Martians. No idea how to boost the hot water on mine.
    In practice though this is not an issue, we heat the water during the day when there’s plenty of solar and it lasts through the night. Would be nice to have but not essential.

  • @SephOConnell
    @SephOConnell ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Wondering if you've got your additional battery yet and if so via who.
    I was getting giv batteries & pv from your supplier but now they've gone to the wall I'm back to square one (well it will be square one when I get my deposit back...) Any recommendations in a similar geographical location???

  • @abekkaou
    @abekkaou วันที่ผ่านมา

    20 minutes...that is lot of time....

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20 mins ? I think not my experience was it was over double that to 60c

  • @williamgurney4226
    @williamgurney4226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They all have an immersion heater back up. Burns electricity like no tomorrow but you won't run out of hot water.

  • @mikehipperson
    @mikehipperson ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy, how much did it cost to enable that boost as it obviously isn't the heat pump supplying the hot water? May as well have an ordinary immersion heater!

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The heat pump is supplying the hot water. Immersion has been disabled from day one.

    • @neilm9400
      @neilm9400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh I did wonder myself 🎉

  • @modquad18
    @modquad18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or you could boil 2 gallons on the stove in 6 mins for 1/4 the cost. Phone ain’t always better 🥴

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว

    I take it the boost feature utilizes a resistive heating element within the unit?

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. Just tells the HP to start.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectricVehicleMan oh gotcha. Sorry for my ignorance but in this situation would the HP not already be working to warm the water? Or does the boost simply up the duty cycle or something to provide knowing it’ll be used in short order?

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ALMX5DP It’s set to only fill the tank once a day (at cheap rate). It can be set to constantly keep an eye and top up but it’s a bit of a waste.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElectricVehicleMan oh that makes sense, sorry if you’ve covered that before but that’s cool it can be scheduled to take advantage of rate changes. I wonder if units sold here in North America operate similarly. I’ll have to see for when it comes time to think about a new water heater for us. Thanks again!

    • @salibaba
      @salibaba ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ALMX5DP since over in the US most heatpump installs are A2A, due to the similarity to traditional HVAC, the water tends in most homes to be done by a furnace to a cylinder, or just purely an immersion cylinder. This is why heat pump water heaters are becoming a thing in the US and Australia.

  • @kenbone4535
    @kenbone4535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Heat Pump and have never ran out of hot water.???

  • @fintrollpgr
    @fintrollpgr ปีที่แล้ว

    So instead of having a thermostat to notice you run out of hot water you have to do it manually with a freaking app? How is that a good thing?

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Of course not. It refills each day.
      Or you can set it to constantly top up.

  • @paulnewman9275
    @paulnewman9275 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having a modern house ( fully insulated with underfloor heating ) fitted with a air source heat pump from new I can assure everyone they are shite ! First one ( Danfoss) lasted 8 years and was truly awful ,second one costing £8k ( Samsung) is slightly better but they just dont work well in this country when the outside temp varies widly. Its a very gentle heat that takes ages to get the house warm ..... also two units in 15 years totalling over £20k is not economic or environmentally friendly.
    Hot water boost is not available on many units and uses a 7kw electric heater - oh wonderful😂
    Electric bills this winter were averaging £45O-£500 per month ( no gas in the house). Once again we are moving backwards while China builds 1200 coal powered power stations in just a few years and over 2000 more planned with 5-7 years so they can generate enough electricity to build EV' to sell to the West, oh the irony.
    Power cuts are now inevitable and we keep pushing nore and more load onto a stretched , aging grid. If anyone believes the hype that the grid can cope with all this then god help them.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's clearly something wrong with your install then.
      Oh and the hot water boost does not use my immersion heater, it's disabled. The heat pump does it.

    • @paulnewman9275
      @paulnewman9275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ElectricVehicleMan Nothing wrong with my system ,wake up and smell the coffee . 4 houses out of six here this so called green heating system fitted in 2009 , all now been replaced with Samsung units , everyone says they are crap ,in fact most people who have them say the same . I qualified in thermodynamics and in theory they should work but in a climate where the temperature changes dramatically and regularly they are a joke - be honest for once. Not cheap to run especially with soaring electric costs , don't last long and are not very efficient ( mmm what does that remind me of ?) - don't come close to a £1500 boiler.
      If your boost works on the heat pump alone and you say it heats up the water in 10-15 minutes without the aid of the electric element you must have the only one like that in the world. Total fantasy world you live in my friend .....

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@paulnewman9275 Temperature changing dramatically makes no difference other than efficiency. You’ve just got a badly planned install, installed correctly doesn’t mean it’s being designed properly.
      15 mins after a boost I can run the bath. Not a full tank.
      If you’re correct then how do other countries seem to manage? 🤔
      In theory they should work? So theory is wrong? Erm no. The application was crap.
      Might want to contact the genius who designed it and ask for a refund.
      What did your heat calculations say?

    • @Roedy_Coedy
      @Roedy_Coedy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paulnewman9275 "I qualified in thermodynamics" - Forgets Norway uses heatpumps.
      "Wake up and smell the coffee they dont work" - can't understand how a man literally showing how his system was designed, installed, set up and runs efficiently is any different to one some labourer threw in terribly into a new build (which normally have snagging lists longer than a roll of toilet roll) as cheaply and quickly as possible isn't as good.
      Do you wear the same size clothes as your missus? Or does one size NOT fit all...?
      The fact so many have died and run terribly on your estate says quite a lot about your estate tbh, who did it out of interest? Sounds terrible living there. My condolences.

    • @modo613
      @modo613 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      R290 Valliant heat pumps capable of 75 degrees without resistive heating. As are most other R290 HP's. Technology is thoroughly proven and considered more reliable than a gas boiler. The prices you refer to are not accurate costs for a heat pump unit so are likely made up or refer to a additional work. Perhaps let the National Grid decide if the Grid can cope - they reckon it can and will.

  • @thejoneseys
    @thejoneseys ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You get your phone, call the plumber and agree a date and time to put the combi back in 😂

    • @paulnewman9275
      @paulnewman9275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heat pumps are crap - end of

  • @jamesbaldwin246
    @jamesbaldwin246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s called going back to the dark ages and using an immersion element
    Which is the most expensive form of providing hot water 😂😂

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not using the immersion, it uses the heat pump. Immersion has been disabled from day 1.

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Immersion would be cheaper than gas for me…

    • @jeffb7241
      @jeffb7241 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use an immersion heater all the time in summer and it costs no more than 40p for all our hot water needs on an economy 7 tariff.

  • @matthewmcmullan9669
    @matthewmcmullan9669 ปีที่แล้ว

    This green future seems to be a case of having to pre plan. Not great for people who aren't very good at planning and just do spur of the moment

    • @chrischild3667
      @chrischild3667 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those same people ran into the same problems with their old water tank though, right? That isn't the green future's fault.