Hellier Season 2: Episode 2 | And the Dead
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- Episode 2: The team travels to Parkersburg, WV to follow up with the source on the update on Indrid Cold. Karl finds The Wheel.
Series: After following up on the creature reports in Hellier, a team of paranormal investigators receive a new set of emails that propel the case into a whole new, wider realm of conspiracy, extraterrestrial visitation, murder, and occult rituals across rural Kentucky.
Hellier is independently produced and funded by Planet Weird.
Director, Executive Producer, and Editor: Karl Pfeiffer
Executive Producers for Planet Weird: Greg Newkirk and Dana Newkirk.
Co-Executive Producer: Connor Randall
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I worked in the Kentucky Room of the Lexington Public Library for 28 years, and when you got to the Boyd County Public Library's local history room, I'm practically yelling at my computer monitor "Check the city directories!", "Check the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps!" "Check any of the Images of America photography books for images of old Ashland!" Then boom, boom boom, you did all three. As you no doubt know well, local history collections of public libraries are extremely valuable resources for researching the paranormal. So many times, I had someone come into the Kentucky Room trying to find out more about their house and when you ask them if they were experiencing paranormal activity, see the relief pouring off of them that someone did not think they were crazy and believed them. I lift my Ale8 in salute to you.
You should get in touch with Karl on Twitter. I did as I was watching the show and he got right back to me! They don't rsvp to these comments but might like to hear your story
@@bethbradley1986 For Bracing Pep: It Glorifies. :-)
@NecroMattIkon Not just trading stories, but library custodians see everything that goes on, especially if the library building also happens to be haunted as the library I used to work for definitely had its weird moments.
Anyone know what this means?
@@delshaydevera Which part? I did make a reference to a soft drink to which bethbradley1986 replied and I don't see her reply which makes my reply make less sense.
Great work, ty for keeping it free.
As producers, great work! As actors, the camera likes you. As paranormal "research" (in contrast to scientific research) and parapsychology you know your turf, that's sure. But beware of too many synchronicities. When you hold a hammer the whole world will look like a nail. There is also the danger of a psychotic break, which I'm sure you are aware of. That makes you really brave, to delve deep, not in the mysteries of the world, but the mysteries of the mind! I saw Hellier, it was full of suspense! That's MY drug. This is even better. Keep up the good work, don't cross the limits, when you feel that strange itch in the heart, that small agony, let it go
@@crsmyth4428 You, you get it, not many do. Well said.
Imagine causing your own psychotic break over things you have to make up yourself.
@@USMCasper It happens lots of times, in male schizophrenia especially... One needs to be careful when researching the paranormal
Tasos Parisinos This stuff isn’t real. I’m saying they are talking about losing their minds over things they make up. Slap in the face to people dealing with actual issues.
@@USMCasper But that's his point, schizophrenia is already made up - though I believe it's a medically incomplete term, the delusions of psychosis are largely based on the person's paranoid beliefs.
Take you, for example; if you're so sure that these people are making everything up & causing their own apophenia, imagine if you had to reconcile the reality that your interpretation of the facts were completely wrong up to this point. Then apply this to every other conventional thinking; religion, psychology, biology, history, ethics, geopolitics, then come to terms with how you've been wrong your entire life, and to everyone you've engaged. And *_then_* apply more holistic events & exponentially paranormal experiences, you might just get a breakdown. Unless you've never been wrong in your life?
If it happens to marines, lawyers, tourists, even about the conventions of their *_own_* world, why couldn't it happen to us?
I was born in ASHLAND. I remember eating at the wagon wheel. Ashland, Boyd county in general was always a sketchy place. Folks there don't care much for outsiders. It's a good place to disappear.
Sincronised 112 keeps on and on great work
I find it super odd they didn't just google the restaurant in the first place. Took me like a literal 2 seconds to find all the information that exists on that place, including the current menu.
@@kaedasonata4432 True true, thats wierd. Whole thing is still super interesting nonetheless
@@joseyamiwales411 I mean, it seems scripted now that I've watched the whole thing.. But yeah, it does entertain. :)
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It's almost like some of these people that were interested in Indrid Cold were more interested in the legend itself than actually having any contact with him or knowing the truth. It's so odd and terribly sad that this woman has been here this whole time, ready to help, and no one bothered to listen to what she had to say or ask if she'd want to do so. I'm so glad that's not the case anymore.
So, what's up with the emails of impending doom? We keep hearing little snippets about them in each episode but it nobody ever says what they say...
I just watched a video on TH-cam called, The Man Called Cold: The Woodrow Derenberger Interview.
And this is why I read the comments. Thank you! I will check it out.
at 8:47 did you pinch your helmet and bellow "guuuyuyyaaaaahhh" because I did
This series gives me the same vibes as when I watch the movie Coraline. In the best way possible I LOVE Coraline. With the two worlds and the theory of possible entities knowing our presence but us not really knowing theirs.
Damn.....so now its not just about some ET encounter way back when mixed with encounters with the grinning man plus puzzling cryptic e-mails and this weird Kentucky freak show on planet weird but now we have occult rituals and murder tangled in this giant neverending torrent of conspiracy chaos. I'm jumping right in cause ya got me totally invested now. Bring on this trivial dance of madness
These programmes are so fascinating and mysterious. Can't stop watching !
In sync @37:17 in the above layout, next to Halls Wagon Wheel... is the Tin Shop!
I was never so sure Indrid Cold was even alive so that he could have died. He could've been a real human, otherworldly being, or could've never even existed. This whole thing is bizarre. Intriguing.
Bizarre is one word for it. I can think of others, but I won't list them here.
I'm so vested. I watched season 1 in one sitting and am on my way to watch season 2 in one sitting as well.
So have I season 1 straight to 2, no show has ever done that to me
Ignatios Nelson, actually daylight is sometimes my enemy. I get severe migraines and light sensitivity is brutal.
I’m still waiting for season 3, rewatching 1 & 2.
Same
You guys have me completely mesmerized.I can't wait For the next word for the next b roll, I am literally on the edge of my seat, Yall are excellent at documentaries, I just can't wait to see what's going to happen next, thank you so very much for adding some much-needed anticipation in my life 😊
i've always found the name 'indrid' to be an unusual one. and have often wondered, as have countless others, if it was an anagram. i now wonder about 'coner' and 'conard' as well. 'coner' most obviously - 'recon' : which means, the gathering of information. or crone: means - an old woman but also the last aspect of the triple goddess. then there's 'conard' - anagram-wise, 'dracon' - (a real person from antiquity in or around athens - 620 bc, he instituted the city's first written code of laws) means: dragon. also 'candor' - meaning to be frank, honest, and sincere.
Indrid used to be a common name round here. Like Straudie, Oakie, and Other Anglo-ish names. There's a feller on Rockhouse named Indrid. He used to fix cars. He's old, retired, and cranky as shit now, but hey.....
The two versions of Indrid Cold have more to do with the mindsets of those that made the observations than the man himself. The truth would be in the middle.
Spot on susan Simone, that's what makes this story confusing, the truth is most likely somewhere in the middle
I have only just started watching this series although, not yet in order but....I was under the impression Indrid Cold was a supernatural being....or is he a man? Help me out. Wasn't that the entity that was communicating in Point Pleasant surrounding the Moth Man?
@@pawnmusic As I understand it he was/is extra terrestrial. One person saw him has kind and helpful and the other saw him as this scary devious figure who was plotting and planning. Further in the show you meet someone who knew Indrid and his family personally.
Susan Simone is it your impression that Indrid was also Moth Man or are these two different beings? I remember from the movie, Indrid was sending messages or warnings, but I wasn’t sure if he was also the same thing being reported as the Moth Man. Also, this is a great series...do you know of anything else that goes in deeper surrounding either the cave goblins or the Pt. Pleasant/MM?
@@pawnmusic totally unclear. Nothing in hellier or any other references make that clear. my personal opinion which has nothing to do with hellier is that Indrid was of a species that was able to communicate more directly with whatever mothman was. Even among animals of earth humans are unique for suing spoken language primarily.
I have always been fascinated by Mothman. I had a psychic experience in Laport, TX in 1978. Something that made me question my sanity except the information I received came true. I wondered if I had some sort of disorder, but I guess it was just a one time thing. A voice came as if flying over my left shoulder foretelling someone's death. A couple of days later this person died in a car crash near Houston.
NO YOU DIDN'T!!!
You didn't warn the person??
Scary
I currently live in barboursville wv. I grew up in Parkersburg. Then point pleasant. I can honestly tell you. In point pleasant. There is something in those woods. something that does not want to be found.
Like what?
Well hearing stories about a place can do that.
@@neveshizzle D.B. Cooper
I just made this drive into Mineral Wells WV. I will prob make it again soon. Now I will be on high alert! I realize chances are slim, but I want to believe! 😉
Hey yall might want to make you way back to Southern ky. They found artifacts in the cave you all were in. There's a odd vibes about what the city plans are. With the area around where you all were.
Very interesting…. I’d like to know more
@Nicolette West dinner party so with in the location of the resort they stayed at. There's a network of caves short caves and caverns. And someone found an artifact. Dating close to the cave man era. The county has been hush-hush about it. But I have a friend who knows people who work closely with the county.
The county is moving the national guard post right across the street from that location.
But why would they move the post. The interstate could have cut through the hill side, but they stopped it.
Why did they stop the completion of the interstate and tigh into the highway going towards London
I jumped around a lot. But these are thoughts that have bounced around in my head. After watching this I drew a bunch of lines through the locations they visited and found a bunch of unfinished county projects and found it odd.
@@klwooten1 you from that area ?
Did anyone make the connection between season ones Estes session and Season 2 ep 2 Ashland KY with the words, flap, bridge, still water? These connect the Hellier Estes session, Terry’s codes as well as the areas / sign posts in Ashland. What’s most compelling is that an Estes session could be considered the only unstructured or random event that manages to fit or connect so clearly with the others. This for me is most interesting as the one bias issue being how we as humans ‘map’ our bias onto events, is countered by the technical randomness of Estes session results. On another note, still water, bridge may not be literally Still Water Bridge but rather related to still water as a time rather than an object or name ( when the water is still, frozen?) the bridge being a meeting place not unlike the original meeting between Indrid and Derenberger on a long stretch of road.
what would the meaning of the word "flap" be in this instance?
@@tmiguy4954 When they're in Ashland, they actually referred to a certain area as a "flap," reading off of a map or something, and I don't think anyone even commented on it
@@markallengalik4037 WOW! I asked that question 2 years ago. No offense Mark, but I still don’t know the definition of a “flap” after reading your reply. I looked up the word on Google, as in a geographical sense, but still didn’t get an understanding of what it is. I’m assuming it’s like a portal of some kind, in space or time, like how people vanish in Missing 411 cases.
@@tmiguy4954 there is such thing as a UFO flap where sightings increase in an area
interestingly, my own life and synchronicities have been HEAVILY tied both to water and especially bridges.
Can I say that I hate parking lots! There are always constructed upon something valuable at least for few peoples...
Really enjoying this. Watched the first season in one sitting after hearing about it on the MU podcast. With that said, the sweet little old lady's story about a two disk pileup is dropped and accepted a bit casually for my taste. I mean I get it, this whole thing is out there and I'm down with it, but Jesus.
Two disk pileup lolol
She's been hearing about or around these beings for her whole life. To her it's not that different from a car crash.
Amen brother. Nothing against her personally, but I just couldn’t believe a word she said. Seemed very fabricated..ESPECIALLY when asked how they died and there’s just too many body language indications that it was panic and quick fabrication.
Indrid cold looks like Max Payne from the video games, that dam grin😂
Mental Heatlh issue could be exposure to lage amounts of heavy metals like Lead and Mercury.
No
@@KendallFalk YES!
@@MORCOPOLO0817 but not in Taunias case though. That was a real contact.
Karl has nailed them codes he is a very very clever man
Yes! Thank you!
Great music choices btw
I live I flatwoods ky and if you need history on Ashland ky I’m a local and I have plenty of info and I would love to help in anyway possible
I think I know how you could find the location of the house. Every municipality has to have yearly detailed "Fire maps" of every unit in the district for Fire Department purposes. When doing environmental assessments I need to request these maps in order to see potential environmental hazards that may have been at a certain location in the past. I believe today the term is "Fire Mapping" which using digital software, but towns used to draw them by hand yearly. You should be able to find the houses location through these maps. You may need to contact the town or the fire department, but there should be a record of this. @Planet Weird
Not quite that easy in rural areas
Oh! And it's dark and void of much business on that stretch of highway in 2019. Can't imagine how dark it was in 66.
I just moved to beaufort North Carolina... I did into things like this too and I can tell you I saw my first ufo when I moved here a few months ago it was a green bright light! Just glowing and it made no noise and glided over into the bay area and just poof disappeared! I have had other weird things happen but that was the first experience there were no if ands or buts about what I saw!
I'm from the tristate area. Grew up on the river in WV between Huntington and point pleasant. Then lived in Ashland through my teenage years. I'm in agreement, and am thought strange when I say it. There's a weird and unsettling feeling there that I felt then and to this day. My family settled there more than 200 years ago... But there's just something gloomy feeling about the area so I left.
very thank yoou ,great show
I learned a new word today... “SYNCHRONICITIES”
This is by far the most interesting, informative and important investigation ever done, I tip my hat, you guys are doing great work... Just brilliant, I'm getting sincros and what they are..
I watched Connor with Sam and Colby in their The Stanley episode, i wanted to ro watch more with him and his Estes Method, i liked him and what he was saying about spirit boxes and stuff, but this is a ride for sure haha. Only thing i have watched since started with season 1 yesterday.
Seems like the old lady is really just holding on to whatever story her dad told in order to get attention. Kind of sad really, I'm sure she probably doesn't get much of it living in a nursing home, so it's her outlet to the outside world kinda.
Got the same impression as well. It was really sad her saying they visit on the holidays like her birthday and Mother’s Day.
A graveyard the goblins feast on the dead also look at the mounds there all over the place. This is crazy but I’ve listened to a lot off manson interviews and one is he was talking about his childhood playing on those mounds you speak of
MOTHERS DAY ,,,,,,,,,,!!!!!! did u see the glint in her eye ... fam freind ,,dont see cold often ,,,the boys love her dearly .came to her to tell her dad is dead ..... use ur brains ..... momma !!!!!!
Someone mentions in the narration the use of Crowley's _The Book Of The Law_ with the cypher. I am curious, did Crowley in his tour of America ever visit Ashland?
Also, "Parsons" reminds me of Jack Parsons (real name: Marvel Whiteside Parsons), head of the OTO in America in the 1940s and a disciple of Crowley.
Ashland is a weird place. I’ve always been told that that area has significantly higher instances of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder compared to the rest of the country, with some people saying it has a lot to do with industrial pollution from mines and factories. I am from Lexington, and I everyone I know from Ashland says that when they go back to visit family they get this weird creepy feeling as soon as they get in Boyd county and the whole area just throws weird, suspicious vibes and they feel anxious and uncomfortable until they leave the county again. 😢
Aaaand I made this comment before watching the whole video 😅 just got to the part where an officer says basically the same thing
I really want to believe but I have to also view this objectively. Is she being real or does she have a case of the bat shits? Also, why would aliens give shit about earth's holidays?
Maybe they're intrigued with what humans celebrate. I'm guessing somewhere there's a book called "The History of the Planets" in the Galactic library of Pluto, where an alien is sitting in the lobby with reading glasses saying
"hey guys, there's a celebration on earth that humans participate in, that's called KRINGLE-MAS where a jovial character breaks into houses and leaves "gifts". What a strange place
My mom grew up in Ashland. Pretty sure she has mentioned eating at the Wagonwheel!
Have you looked into the freindship case in Italy that quite bizarre as well. I've read a few of greenfields books the are quite interesting I'm a massive fan of keel as well the cosmic tricksters men in black moth man etc. I have built up my own theorys over the years reading books studying fringe topics I've had close encounters with ufos but it all stopped a few years back after I got scared after a particularly close encounter where I was followed home by a ufo type probe it really scared me after all that fear everything stopped. I don't think they connect with you if you show fear.
@Lunarowl I would like to hear his opinion as well for his story is close to mine?
Have you ever asked the staff of "visitors" who come to speak with tonya? Or looked at the security cameras for proof of conar and conard?
I thought the same thing. That's the first thing I would have asked after she said that. They are so vague about it, it's weird. Oh, they came to visit you in your last nursing home? Did anyone else see them? How did they get in unnoticed? etc
@@amibee2607 exactly. Things normal people would ask they just ignore. So many questions...
@@stjamesblacktree6138 Heavily agree.
It's so surreal to watch this I have grew up in East ky and have been everywhere they go at hundreds of times
Indrid Cold will live forever in our memories.
i dont know why i keep on watching im still waiting for that alien
The bray road beast is also seen in that area.
I love the soundtrack for this season so much. Who is it?
Seeing the name Parsons on the ground in Ashland may have been telling you to go in that building, may have been someone who knew something you needed. Parsons also makes me think of Jack Parsons a rocket researcher and occultist.
He created JBL right? Or am I mistaken?
Chris Snyder
JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)?
I don’t think Jack Parsons founded JPL but he was a noted occultist. I remember there were some wild tales about him. Look it up.
@@chrissnyder3430 You are correct. *JPL
I also thought of Jack Parsons. He and L Ron Hubbard also supposedly summoned an entity in the Mojave Desert near where Area 51 was built a few years later. There are some ET related theories about the Babalon Working but they're hard to piece together.
He wasn't technically involved in the JPL by that name but he's considered one of the founders because of his instrumental involvement with the other founders. It's even on his Wikipedia page so it's not even really a stretch.
It says CONNOR over the door leaving the domes!😲👽
Can you give a time stamp? I wanna see it too! 😁
Very compelling. Watched season 1 and was left with a feeling of high anxiety. After watching season 2 ep.2
I now feel impending tragedy/sarrow.
Please use caution.
Its 2023, and as you walk thru the streets of Ohio all I could think. Is how I miss living up north. Then.. I recalled the plant explosion and I was saddened by it all.
Conor and Conard... a couple of cons???
XD J'ai pensé la même chose
Parsons is Terry .W !!!
Terry means the power of the tribe wrist means to bend or turn..
Here's the biggest problem I've always had with the Indrid Cold story,and btw it's a cool story but I believe that's all it is,a story. But why would some...interstellar or interdimensional traveler...or wtf ever he was supposed to be,wtf would they have to profit by stopping some random guy in the middle of the highway?
Indrid Cold told Derenberger he did so because no one would believe him.
@@PlanetWeird One of you answered personally,ya'll rock! But yeah,I think it's kind of like Greg said a couple times about stuff,I just have never had an orientation for Cold,except maybe MIB's know what I mean? Btw I've seen all these multiple times,waiting for the next season!
YES FINALLY!!!!
Are there any other paranormal documentary series like this one? Or even one that involves UFO phenomena or anything like that? If anyone has any good recommendations, I'd greatly appreciate it!
It's very different but the Crypto4Corners / J.C.Johnson (rip) TH-cam page have some very interesting field reports, witness interviews, etc on many different phenomena in a regional location.
Skinwalker ranch kinda....then theres the stardust ranch
Penny Royal podcast is a great rabbit hole. It center around this whole area of Kentucky.
she keeps looking to the left body language says thats the right side of the brain making up a story looking to the right is going into real memories
This is a myth that people look left when they lie. There's way more intricacies to micro expressions.
Could 112 have also been the address? If 123 was the wagon wheel
Check the water in the area, mental health issues....I’m lost in Ashland !
MsStorm351 what do you mean by “you are lost in Ashland?”
Tammy Hanson .......so many places to go and see there, the intriguing search for follow of clues....! So many synchronicities experienced......I’m shocked 😳.....lost in Ashland!
Mental health is bad in the whole region also drug abuse is rampid, born and raised in the area and I've had my struggles too
Kevin Roman ......I hope that those struggles are behind you now. Keep fighting!
(Radio) KEYL = Keel ?
Don't know if u guys know, but Jack Parson of JPL, used to idolise Aliester Crowley.
every little piece just keeps fitting into a picture thats yet to be seen
Maybe Stillwater Bridge felt dead because Indrid Cold was Gone? 👽❤
watch the eyes go left all the time
i am fairly certain this may be somehow related to the bablon workings
Am I the only one that thinks the red dots on that map look like the constilation Orion?
Anything is possible so- Y is it that if something is 1 way it can't B another?
I’m not a fan of the jumping to conclusions towards the end of the episode,. The fact that the restaurant existed doesn’t mean Wriste existed too.
Looks like a real life Silent Hill.
I think the sons are real and so was indred.
nice ghost shirt
Who sings the song I’ll spend the night in a killers bed I’ll spend the night talking to the dead it’s when they are looking in Kentucky for the wagon wheel location when they arrive at that little motel. great song
Parsons. Like that one guy documented in Higher Entities Jack Parsons, very weird these two shows are like totally parallel from what I have seen.
Digging the True Detective vibes and interesting content.
Peter Levenda wrote a book about Ashland
Once home to a young Charles Manson.
I need whatever yinz are smoking holy hell lmao
Smoking the synchronicities.
Hell yes lol synchronicities are synchronicities 😭
WOW!
terry wrist is an actor.
Greg at 18:07 reminds me a bit of a young George Knapp.
Wouldn't indrid cold be older than 92?
is no one gonna say anything about the red glowing eyes at 09:09 ? When you just watch it it looks like one red light, but when you go frame by frame it's two red glows for a split second.
As a whole I enjoyed it but the quartz thing? 🤔Strange,people dig for quartz in Kentucky all the time and quartz crystals itself are used worlwide in healing etc..I don't believe a word of the quartz bit as being anything negative..That's a bit of a letdown for me.
And why are they called "Conner" and "Connerd?" (sp?)
Well, supposedly they are "ultraterrestrials" so I guess their naming conventions would differ from ours. Of course I don't think they really exist. This lady is trying to sell a book after all.
Interesting
Indrid Cold maybe hatman or same kind of entity
He is alien 👽
what was the point of all this?
Nobody knows. Started out as a monster hunt. Then ghosts. Then private investigations of people who don't exist. To try and prove monsters exist. Or aliens. Or prefabricated hallucinations.
Nobody knows whats going on. Lmao
Jack Parsons.
I saw the strangest thing moving stars that went n line thru sky then jus vanished ?!!?
Satellites moving in a line, sky-link or something. Part of Elon musk space x project I believe. Nothing sinister but better internet over the world
I think you guys think to much into everything and just over analyse the situations in order to make something more in-depth out of it than it actually is
That's my last name! 😬 weeeeird! 😋
Indrid Cold? More like *Injured* Cold, amiright?
That’s exactly what I thought as well.
This dude looks like Jake Gyllenhaal
Weakest episode yet. Thanks for making this free!
The damn thing is a Chinese puzzle, just like the last one.
Find "Ra"... only then will you understand the true meaning of this world...