This accurately describes my mother. Now I understand her self- isolation, and the things she does to herself that cause me to work harder in order to care for her. I felt she was doing these things on purpose, but said to myself "Who would do that?" The Loner Sadist would.
The person had little interest and took little pleasure in anything - only when bullying he was extremely animated, overjoyed, voracious even. There was an intensity to his glare, not present on any other occasion. He now lives in a tent in the woods, to the best of my knowledge.
There is no other content like this anywhere on TH-cam! Dont kid yourself ppl! don’t even bother listening to other people or accounts speak about these topics! They don’t have a clue, None of them could ever hold a candle to this man! Thank you Sam! ❤ Love that you are always updating Your channels your knowledgeable videos have been exceptionally helpful to understanding of my current situation …. unfortunately. lol though I’d be much more lost if I hadn’t found this channel, sure I can speak for many others who would still be in the dark aswell. very grateful for all you do and know! no one has a fkn clue about narcissists etc until they listen to this brilliant PRO! Nailed it. Everytime: thanks again prof. Sam for sharing. .
The funny thing is there are groups of narcissists and sociopaths who hate him. I always thought it’s because he exposes them so well. I’m a borderline and I know for facts he has my disorder pegged.
So that's what it was! Thank you more than I can express. I knew it was a form of NPD, and the person had self-diagnosed as a psychopath, but the description in this video is the most accurate in terms of their behaviour.
So… you just described my ex and our relationship. Especially the push-pull dynamic of the need for others but also wanting to isolate. He hated himself because he wanted/needed the supply. Sometimes when the internal turmoil got bad enough, he would break down and cry, saying “I don’t want to feel like this anymore!” When I confronted his about enjoying seeing me cry and hurting me, he acknowledged it but also said that he couldn't help it. It just happened, like a compulsion. Would this mean that he was self-aware and there is hope for conscious behavior modification? Or is the illness behaviours hard-wired and not susceptible to neuroplasticity?
Wow!!! I almost wrote the same exact comment, I had the pleasure to learn all about after experience all of it… I was trying to find what type my ex was and now Dr. Sam dotted all my I’s
Yes I've met one. Diagnosed with bi-polar and schizophrenia. Prior to the diagnosis she had extreme covert narcissistic traits.Yes she was sadistic which she relished and fed off.
The contradictory nature of signals on the one hand being loving and concerned the strealing my possessions, the promise of ‘just us two’ while remaining with her violent ex, this all sums up mnpd. Grazi!
And these people are around us all day every day...TY 4 sharing 💯 I feel so much more aware in my life since engaging with your content... I even feel abit safer within when you encounter those people who display the behaviors...
Wow! Such a helpful elaboration of such a complicated personality that I had a close encounter with, last few months. It has been painful. Thank you for this information. Understanding this helps me heal 🙏
I had a relationship with a schizoid malignant narcissist . He even wore a Diablo t-shirt at one point. I didn't know about this diagnosis until he told me he was bipolar and schizophrenic and has been hospitalized for behavioral rages. And he said he turned over a new leaf. He vowed undying love for me. I started watching TH-cam videos like yours.
Could a female with this comorbidity present solely in passive aggressive ways. Without any display of overt anger, aggression or upset at all? Thanks for the information and honesty in the presentation.
@@samvaknin my adopted daughter at 3, she has several of these, especially narc and i have had to make myself run, especially since she is 24 and has recently gotten a gun, she is now saying stalkers are after her and drinking poison and told the ER Dr who wanted to admit her than she yells at me in car!! and i told her u opened your mouth!! all we can do is pray for these people, because a narc never wants help or will admit to needing help
Thank you -- This helps a lot. I am looking forward to learning more and finding out if there is anything I need to do in my healing after decades of abuse - beyond what you have been suggesting for healing from narcissistic abuse.
I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for years and you are the only person who has given me a real answer. Everything you described here is me...exactly and completely; I'm looking forward to the other videos. There is a scene from a movie called "I'm a Cyborg but That's OK" where a girl in a psychiatric ward is approaching people and trying to shake their hands, but when they reach out to reciprocate she pulls her hand away and runs...over and over, with a look of confused distress/disgust on her face. Eventually she exhausts herself with this cycle and passes out on a bench. I feel like that scene models the schizoid narcissist dilemma quite well.
Beste Sam Vaknin, De reden dat ik dit bericht in het Nederlands schrijf is omdat mijn Engels niet heel goed is. Allereerst wil ik u bedanken voor alle informatie die u deelt met ons. Ik heb er echt zoveel aan gehad. De manier waarop u alles uitlegt is echt zo goed! Begrijp niet dat u nog geen miljoenen kijkers heeft. Ik zou heeeelllllll graag een video willen over de covert narcisist en stalken in combinatie met gangstalking wanneer de narcist anderen betrekt om het slachtoffer te stalken. Ik word namelijk op dit moment zelf extreem gestalkt dit is nu bijna 2,5 jaar bezig. En ik zou heel graag van u willen horen hoe dit gebeurd voorbeelden van mogelijke situaties en het belangrijkste wat te doen in dit soortgelijke situaties en wat vooral NIET te doen. Ik hoop oprecht dat u mijn bericht leest en een video gaat plaatsen. Liefs Yamina uit Rotterdam. ♥️🤗
My now dead spouse had schizoaffective disorder w major depressive disorder, covert malignant narcissist, BPD, psychopathy and ASPD plus drug addiction. He would of been a great study specimen for a psychologist
Dr Vaknin can a young male start out as a borderline then as ages turn covert borderline then into this especially after 5 divorces and higher frequency of psychopathy in 40 and 50s? Can this hybrid be an evolution or are they this way early on is my question And thank you you’ve helped me so much
Prof. Vaknin, this video and the one about Covert Psychopath is such a revelation and answers so many questions. Thank you so much. Could there be a comorbidity between these two, Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Covert Psychopath? Strangely enough, I feel like I witnessed all of the mentioned patterns in both of these videos in one person. Would love to see more of this. thank you for your work.
Schizoid malignant narcissist is a thing?! My ex was diagnosed as schizoid as a child but I swear he’s either narcissistic or sociopathic. I see the schizoid but the narcissism is prevalent. I mean, it’s documented he set fire to a cat as a child. And yet I still loved and took him back after I knew all that. 🤦🏼♀️
Good work ❤ see many types in the world. If they would take away self. And project love❤ who can stop that. Love never fails. I keep my distance because I can't lay hands on anyone. ❤ if I hug you. It's because your soul is good❤
The title just described the man i am currently stuck residing with! He is not my man. He was my best friend's husb til she died in my arms March 3 from copd. He was useless and i took care of her this past horrible year. I knew my situation was gonna get bad when she was gone. But did not count on now being 24/7 oxygen-dependent as of last week. My own copd plunged into end stage with pneumonia last Thursday. Home from hosp and he had shut off the AC , house 80 degrees and full of flies! He became psychotic when I turned the AC back on. He said "I am cold!" I am like boo hoo if you put on a shirt you won't be. I still can't breathe no matter how much clothing I take off. Dang. I can't afford to move but cant afford to stay. I don't deserve this. God will Show me a path. He always does! I want to tell this NPD to shut up and take the Seroquel he was prescribed for schizophrenia.
With approach/avoidance repetition compulsion, how do we differentiate between a Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Borderline Personality Disorder? Both are sadistic with what could appear to be engulfment anxiety.
With appreciation and thank you very much Prof. Sam Vaknin, The question is : How can a person have reassurance that he himself or she herself is not a narcissist or socio/ psychopath?
Hey Sam, not sure if you’ll answer based on the timing but I will give it a go. Do people with ADHD have a high comorbidity with this particular form of narcissism? ( or could they be likely to take it on )
I identify with some of this, but maybe to a less extreme standard. I have done the push pull but I am not really a violent person, and seeing people doesn't make angry so much as sad, but I identify with the fantasy of being endlessly alone
I can’t help but think of Howard Hughes in his Las Vegas penthouse with Kleenex boxes on his feet. Wonder if true? Have to watch Melvin and Howard again. ;)
How do you help people like this? I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be like this. There are so many videos describing narcs.etc but none offer any solutions or treatment. Please may you upload a video that offers help for these people. Many thanks.
I wonde rif you can find these archetypes in the bdsm community as Dominatrices and Doms.. and what archetype would the Subs respresent in this dynamic..? There's a whole online world of BDSM where people like to dominate and/or be dominated in different ways.. i wonder, even if adhering to strict consent and safe words, and even after care, would engaging in these kinds of activities, though controlled and online, would these be considered schizoid narcissistic sadism?
Professor Vaknin, do you know that you describe russian gopniks just the clearest way they are? You have been teaching in Rostov, so you are almost for sure are familiar with these species!
This is really frightening 😮 What about people when they talk they never change their the tone of their voice. There’s no happiness, no anger no disappointment, like conversation without any emotion, so strange 😮
This accurately describes my mother. Now I understand her self- isolation, and the things she does to herself that cause me to work harder in order to care for her. I felt she was doing these things on purpose, but said to myself "Who would do that?" The Loner Sadist would.
This is my mother. I've been NO CONTACT for 5 years now.
The person had little interest and took little pleasure in anything - only when bullying he was extremely animated, overjoyed, voracious even. There was an intensity to his glare, not present on any other occasion. He now lives in a tent in the woods, to the best of my knowledge.
Insane.
There is no other content like this anywhere on TH-cam! Dont kid yourself ppl! don’t even bother listening to other people or accounts speak about these topics! They don’t have a clue, None of them could ever hold a candle to this man!
Thank you Sam! ❤
Love that you are always updating Your channels your knowledgeable videos have been exceptionally helpful to understanding of my current situation …. unfortunately. lol though I’d be much more lost if I hadn’t found this channel, sure I can speak for many others who would still be in the dark aswell. very grateful for all you do and know! no one has a fkn clue about narcissists etc until they listen to this brilliant PRO! Nailed it. Everytime: thanks again prof. Sam for sharing. .
The funny thing is there are groups of narcissists and sociopaths who hate him. I always thought it’s because he exposes them so well. I’m a borderline and I know for facts he has my disorder pegged.
So that's what it was! Thank you more than I can express. I knew it was a form of NPD, and the person had self-diagnosed as a psychopath, but the description in this video is the most accurate in terms of their behaviour.
So… you just described my ex and our relationship. Especially the push-pull dynamic of the need for others but also wanting to isolate. He hated himself because he wanted/needed the supply. Sometimes when the internal turmoil got bad enough, he would break down and cry, saying “I don’t want to feel like this anymore!”
When I confronted his about enjoying seeing me cry and hurting me, he acknowledged it but also said that he couldn't help it. It just happened, like a compulsion.
Would this mean that he was self-aware and there is hope for conscious behavior modification? Or is the illness behaviours hard-wired and not susceptible to neuroplasticity?
Wow, this is the exact description. Now I understand and see clearly his duality and abrupt changes. Thank you
Wow!!! I almost wrote the same exact comment, I had the pleasure to learn all about after experience all of it… I was trying to find what type my ex was and now Dr. Sam dotted all my I’s
@@alinebatri5152Yes he put the final piece of the puzzle in place.
Amazing video 👍🏻
Yes I've met one. Diagnosed with bi-polar and schizophrenia. Prior to the diagnosis she had extreme covert narcissistic traits.Yes she was sadistic which she relished and fed off.
Yes exactly...
💯
Thank you so much Dr. Vaknin for this episode .
you‘re educating videos, are worth gold dr. vaknin. thank you so much for all that you doing. 🙏🏼
The contradictory nature of signals on the one hand being loving and concerned the strealing my possessions, the promise of ‘just us two’ while remaining with her violent ex, this all sums up mnpd. Grazi!
That wasa stunning lesson from which I learned in which type of relationship I had been in!!!!
Thank you..understand my pain
And these people are around us all day every day...TY 4 sharing 💯 I feel so much more aware in my life since engaging with your content... I even feel abit safer within when you encounter those people who display the behaviors...
Wow! Such a helpful elaboration of such a complicated personality that I had a close encounter with, last few months. It has been painful. Thank you for this information. Understanding this helps me heal 🙏
I had a relationship with a schizoid malignant narcissist . He even wore a Diablo t-shirt at one point. I didn't know about this diagnosis until he told me he was bipolar and schizophrenic and has been hospitalized for behavioral rages. And he said he turned over a new leaf. He vowed undying love for me. I started watching TH-cam videos like yours.
If Sam read some stories by H.P. Lovecraft I would have to hide behind the sofa.
Could a female with this comorbidity present solely in passive aggressive ways. Without any display of overt anger, aggression or upset at all? Thanks for the information and honesty in the presentation.
Yes.
@@samvaknin my adopted daughter at 3, she has several of these, especially narc and i have had to make myself run, especially since she is 24 and has recently gotten a gun, she is now saying stalkers are after her and drinking poison and told the ER Dr who wanted to admit her than she yells at me in car!! and i told her u opened your mouth!! all we can do is pray for these people, because a narc never wants help or will admit to needing help
Feigned Empathy aka HELP & EXPLOIT
Yes indeed...
Yikes.....horrifying.
Thank you -- This helps a lot. I am looking forward to learning more and finding out if there is anything I need to do in my healing after decades of abuse - beyond what you have been suggesting for healing from narcissistic abuse.
Sadistic supply can also be remote, not just in person.
I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for years and you are the only person who has given me a real answer.
Everything you described here is me...exactly and completely; I'm looking forward to the other videos.
There is a scene from a movie called "I'm a Cyborg but That's OK" where a girl in a psychiatric ward is approaching people and trying to shake their hands, but when they reach out to reciprocate she pulls her hand away and runs...over and over, with a look of confused distress/disgust on her face.
Eventually she exhausts herself with this cycle and passes out on a bench. I feel like that scene models the schizoid narcissist dilemma quite well.
Same here. I’m listening like “dayum, this is me”. Life is crazy.
Thank you for your work and dedication to educating us and saving our lives.
Beste Sam Vaknin,
De reden dat ik dit bericht in het Nederlands schrijf is omdat mijn Engels niet heel goed is. Allereerst wil ik u bedanken voor alle informatie die u deelt met ons. Ik heb er echt zoveel aan gehad. De manier waarop u alles uitlegt is echt zo goed! Begrijp niet dat u nog geen miljoenen kijkers heeft. Ik zou heeeelllllll graag een video willen over de covert narcisist en stalken in combinatie met gangstalking wanneer de narcist anderen betrekt om het slachtoffer te stalken. Ik word namelijk op dit moment zelf extreem gestalkt dit is nu bijna 2,5 jaar bezig. En ik zou heel graag van u willen horen hoe dit gebeurd voorbeelden van mogelijke situaties en het belangrijkste wat te doen in dit soortgelijke situaties en wat vooral NIET te doen. Ik hoop oprecht dat u mijn bericht leest en een video gaat plaatsen. Liefs Yamina uit Rotterdam. ♥️🤗
Search the channel for “flying monkey” and for “gangstalking”.
That’s a great image: pizza delivery guy arrives at Shangri-La.
Agent Smith from the matrix
My now dead spouse had schizoaffective disorder w major depressive disorder, covert malignant narcissist, BPD, psychopathy and ASPD plus drug addiction. He would of been a great study specimen for a psychologist
Man is this accurate. I was involved with this. The contradiction is spot on
It's a sad thing to see in a person. Really hard to watch.
My father too a T .
Thank you Prof. Vaknin
Thank you for this presentation doc 🇦🇺
You just described social media. ESPECIALLY the 'prank' TH-camrs.
Thank you for this video. It's a fascinating topic. I am already looking forward to more videos on this subject...
very enlightening; finally understand my ex.
Wow...this. This is him. Wow.
Wow.
Thank you for your work.
Dr Vaknin can a young male start out as a borderline then as ages turn covert borderline then into this especially after 5 divorces and higher frequency of psychopathy in 40 and 50s?
Can this hybrid be an evolution or are they this way early on is my question
And thank you you’ve helped me so much
No.
Is the "duping delight" often noted in the paychopath's behavior similar to the supply the Narcissist gets through attention
Sadistic supply. Search the channel.
this sounds just like me. wow.
Prof. Vaknin, this video and the one about Covert Psychopath is such a revelation and answers so many questions. Thank you so much. Could there be a comorbidity between these two, Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Covert Psychopath? Strangely enough, I feel like I witnessed all of the mentioned patterns in both of these videos in one person. Would love to see more of this. thank you for your work.
This comorbidity is possible in principle.
@@samvaknin thank you! Will be waiting for your videos.
Schizoid malignant narcissist is a thing?! My ex was diagnosed as schizoid as a child but I swear he’s either narcissistic or sociopathic. I see the schizoid but the narcissism is prevalent. I mean, it’s documented he set fire to a cat as a child. And yet I still loved and took him back after I knew all that. 🤦🏼♀️
A 'delectable concoction' for sure only these people walk among us with no government health warning tattooed on their forehead.
Good work ❤ see many types in the world. If they would take away self. And project love❤ who can stop that. Love never fails. I keep my distance because I can't lay hands on anyone. ❤ if I hug you. It's because your soul is good❤
This is kind of frightening
Fascinating. Does it all really boil down to self hatred? Thanks for your cogent analysis. Always interesting and enlightening.
To some degree it does
The title just described the man i am currently stuck residing with! He is not my man. He was my best friend's husb til she died in my arms March 3 from copd. He was useless and i took care of her this past horrible year. I knew my situation was gonna get bad when she was gone. But did not count on now being 24/7 oxygen-dependent as of last week. My own copd plunged into end stage with pneumonia last Thursday. Home from hosp and he had shut off the AC , house 80 degrees and full of flies! He became psychotic when I turned the AC back on. He said "I am cold!" I am like boo hoo if you put on a shirt you won't be. I still can't breathe no matter how much clothing I take off. Dang. I can't afford to move but cant afford to stay. I don't deserve this. God will Show me a path. He always does! I want to tell this NPD to shut up and take the Seroquel he was prescribed for schizophrenia.
Very useful
Finally the puzzle is complete...thank you Sir for your teachings.
More dangerous to themselves than anyone
Sounds like a pattern that eats the practitioner from the inside
Dear Prof. Vaknin, can you do a video about Wound Collectors in the future ? Thank you, there is not much about this topic on the TH-cam.
Search the channel for "grievance", "victimhood", and "woke".
This video is about Unabomber?
He was a prominent exemplar of this subtype, yes.
With approach/avoidance repetition compulsion, how do we differentiate between a Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Borderline Personality Disorder? Both are sadistic with what could appear to be engulfment anxiety.
Borderlines are not sadistic.
A video about Schizoid Malignant Covert Nacrissist would be interesting
Interesting
With appreciation and thank you very much
Prof. Sam Vaknin,
The question is :
How can a person have reassurance that he himself or she herself is not a narcissist or socio/ psychopath?
Watch the Mind playlist.
@@samvaknin th-cam.com/play/PL2CB712AE09C264EB.html&si=LGUOIg8QQXxfP8QV
This is the reference correct?
Wow, that's an unflattering title. [video proceeds to describe exactly me at times]
Oh.
Is the paranoia also a part of this?
Yes.
Sadism bad. Wanting to be left alone from a narcissist is ok. But you have to go no contact. Aggression will only work on bullies
Any advice for those in a sexual, co-habitating situation with this kind of individual? Simply leave?
No contact.
Hey Sam, not sure if you’ll answer based on the timing but I will give it a go. Do people with ADHD have a high comorbidity with this particular form of narcissism? ( or could they be likely to take it on )
Search the comorbidities playlist.
I identify with some of this, but maybe to a less extreme standard. I have done the push pull but I am not really a violent person, and seeing people doesn't make angry so much as sad, but I identify with the fantasy of being endlessly alone
Sam, is It possible ASD co-occur with NPD? In this case how can one modifies the expression of the other????
Search the comorbidities playlist.
Was married to one.
What likelyhood is of me being misdiagnosed with ASD and actually having NPD?
Search the comorbidities playlist.
I can’t help but think of Howard Hughes in his Las Vegas penthouse with Kleenex boxes on his feet. Wonder if true? Have to watch Melvin and Howard again. ;)
How do you help people like this? I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be like this. There are so many videos describing narcs.etc but none offer any solutions or treatment. Please may you upload a video that offers help for these people. Many thanks.
Watch the therapies playlists.
I wonde rif you can find these archetypes in the bdsm community as Dominatrices and Doms.. and what archetype would the Subs respresent in this dynamic..? There's a whole online world of BDSM where people like to dominate and/or be dominated in different ways.. i wonder, even if adhering to strict consent and safe words, and even after care, would engaging in these kinds of activities, though controlled and online, would these be considered schizoid narcissistic sadism?
Search the sexuality playlists.
I am becoming that it seems !
Trapped in their own fantasy ?
Hehe the joys brought by the Interwebs 😅😅😅
We were married to someone like this
Professor Vaknin, do you know that you describe russian gopniks just the clearest way they are? You have been teaching in Rostov, so you are almost for sure are familiar with these species!
Every country has them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
This is really frightening 😮
What about people when they talk they never change their the tone of their voice. There’s no happiness, no anger no disappointment, like conversation without any emotion, so strange 😮
I laugh when I see the title , I am a loner and a little bit sadist