There is very little information about schizoid-narcissist phenomenon. And every lesson that you make is a golden nugget of information about this topic. Also THANK YOU for making videos like Schizoid Bible , a 5+ hours gem of a lesson... Wish you all the best...
good knowlegh for you that wanna know about schizoid-narcissist, schizophrenia positive period exchibit grandiosity(?).becous of schizophrenia exchibit very high dopamine and dopamine is foundation that grandiosity. It's same bipolar manic period. bipolar and schizophrenia is same many point genetic. known that bipolar likely to narcissist, same schizophrenia
This accurately describes my mother. Now I understand her self- isolation, and the things she does to herself that cause me to work harder in order to care for her. I felt she was doing these things on purpose, but said to myself "Who would do that?" The Loner Sadist would.
So that's what it was! Thank you more than I can express. I knew it was a form of NPD, and the person had self-diagnosed as a psychopath, but the description in this video is the most accurate in terms of their behaviour.
There is no other content like this anywhere on TH-cam! Dont kid yourself ppl! don’t even bother listening to other people or accounts speak about these topics! They don’t have a clue, None of them could ever hold a candle to this man! Thank you Sam! ❤ Love that you are always updating Your channels your knowledgeable videos have been exceptionally helpful to understanding of my current situation …. unfortunately. lol though I’d be much more lost if I hadn’t found this channel, sure I can speak for many others who would still be in the dark aswell. very grateful for all you do and know! no one has a fkn clue about narcissists etc until they listen to this brilliant PRO! Nailed it. Everytime: thanks again prof. Sam for sharing. .
The funny thing is there are groups of narcissists and sociopaths who hate him. I always thought it’s because he exposes them so well. I’m a borderline and I know for facts he has my disorder pegged.
The person had little interest and took little pleasure in anything - only when bullying he was extremely animated, overjoyed, voracious even. There was an intensity to his glare, not present on any other occasion. He now lives in a tent in the woods, to the best of my knowledge.
Wow!!! I almost wrote the same exact comment, I had the pleasure to learn all about after experience all of it… I was trying to find what type my ex was and now Dr. Sam dotted all my I’s
Yes I've met one. Diagnosed with bi-polar and schizophrenia. Prior to the diagnosis she had extreme covert narcissistic traits.Yes she was sadistic which she relished and fed off.
So… you just described my ex and our relationship. Especially the push-pull dynamic of the need for others but also wanting to isolate. He hated himself because he wanted/needed the supply. Sometimes when the internal turmoil got bad enough, he would break down and cry, saying “I don’t want to feel like this anymore!” When I confronted his about enjoying seeing me cry and hurting me, he acknowledged it but also said that he couldn't help it. It just happened, like a compulsion. Would this mean that he was self-aware and there is hope for conscious behavior modification? Or is the illness behaviours hard-wired and not susceptible to neuroplasticity?
The contradictory nature of signals on the one hand being loving and concerned the strealing my possessions, the promise of ‘just us two’ while remaining with her violent ex, this all sums up mnpd. Grazi!
Wow! Such a helpful elaboration of such a complicated personality that I had a close encounter with, last few months. It has been painful. Thank you for this information. Understanding this helps me heal 🙏
And these people are around us all day every day...TY 4 sharing 💯 I feel so much more aware in my life since engaging with your content... I even feel abit safer within when you encounter those people who display the behaviors...
I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for years and you are the only person who has given me a real answer. Everything you described here is me...exactly and completely; I'm looking forward to the other videos. There is a scene from a movie called "I'm a Cyborg but That's OK" where a girl in a psychiatric ward is approaching people and trying to shake their hands, but when they reach out to reciprocate she pulls her hand away and runs...over and over, with a look of confused distress/disgust on her face. Eventually she exhausts herself with this cycle and passes out on a bench. I feel like that scene models the schizoid narcissist dilemma quite well.
I had a relationship with a schizoid malignant narcissist . He even wore a Diablo t-shirt at one point. I didn't know about this diagnosis until he told me he was bipolar and schizophrenic and has been hospitalized for behavioral rages. And he said he turned over a new leaf. He vowed undying love for me. I started watching TH-cam videos like yours.
Could a female with this comorbidity present solely in passive aggressive ways. Without any display of overt anger, aggression or upset at all? Thanks for the information and honesty in the presentation.
@@samvaknin my adopted daughter at 3, she has several of these, especially narc and i have had to make myself run, especially since she is 24 and has recently gotten a gun, she is now saying stalkers are after her and drinking poison and told the ER Dr who wanted to admit her than she yells at me in car!! and i told her u opened your mouth!! all we can do is pray for these people, because a narc never wants help or will admit to needing help
Thank you -- This helps a lot. I am looking forward to learning more and finding out if there is anything I need to do in my healing after decades of abuse - beyond what you have been suggesting for healing from narcissistic abuse.
My now dead spouse had schizoaffective disorder w major depressive disorder, covert malignant narcissist, BPD, psychopathy and ASPD plus drug addiction. He would of been a great study specimen for a psychologist
Good work ❤ see many types in the world. If they would take away self. And project love❤ who can stop that. Love never fails. I keep my distance because I can't lay hands on anyone. ❤ if I hug you. It's because your soul is good❤
Dr Vaknin can a young male start out as a borderline then as ages turn covert borderline then into this especially after 5 divorces and higher frequency of psychopathy in 40 and 50s? Can this hybrid be an evolution or are they this way early on is my question And thank you you’ve helped me so much
Schizoid malignant narcissist is a thing?! My ex was diagnosed as schizoid as a child but I swear he’s either narcissistic or sociopathic. I see the schizoid but the narcissism is prevalent. I mean, it’s documented he set fire to a cat as a child. And yet I still loved and took him back after I knew all that. 🤦🏼♀️
The title just described the man i am currently stuck residing with! He is not my man. He was my best friend's husb til she died in my arms March 3 from copd. He was useless and i took care of her this past horrible year. I knew my situation was gonna get bad when she was gone. But did not count on now being 24/7 oxygen-dependent as of last week. My own copd plunged into end stage with pneumonia last Thursday. Home from hosp and he had shut off the AC , house 80 degrees and full of flies! He became psychotic when I turned the AC back on. He said "I am cold!" I am like boo hoo if you put on a shirt you won't be. I still can't breathe no matter how much clothing I take off. Dang. I can't afford to move but cant afford to stay. I don't deserve this. God will Show me a path. He always does! I want to tell this NPD to shut up and take the Seroquel he was prescribed for schizophrenia.
I identify with some of this, but maybe to a less extreme standard. I have done the push pull but I am not really a violent person, and seeing people doesn't make angry so much as sad, but I identify with the fantasy of being endlessly alone
Prof. Vaknin, this video and the one about Covert Psychopath is such a revelation and answers so many questions. Thank you so much. Could there be a comorbidity between these two, Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Covert Psychopath? Strangely enough, I feel like I witnessed all of the mentioned patterns in both of these videos in one person. Would love to see more of this. thank you for your work.
With approach/avoidance repetition compulsion, how do we differentiate between a Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Borderline Personality Disorder? Both are sadistic with what could appear to be engulfment anxiety.
I can’t help but think of Howard Hughes in his Las Vegas penthouse with Kleenex boxes on his feet. Wonder if true? Have to watch Melvin and Howard again. ;)
How do you help people like this? I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be like this. There are so many videos describing narcs.etc but none offer any solutions or treatment. Please may you upload a video that offers help for these people. Many thanks.
I wonde rif you can find these archetypes in the bdsm community as Dominatrices and Doms.. and what archetype would the Subs respresent in this dynamic..? There's a whole online world of BDSM where people like to dominate and/or be dominated in different ways.. i wonder, even if adhering to strict consent and safe words, and even after care, would engaging in these kinds of activities, though controlled and online, would these be considered schizoid narcissistic sadism?
With appreciation and thank you very much Prof. Sam Vaknin, The question is : How can a person have reassurance that he himself or she herself is not a narcissist or socio/ psychopath?
Hey Sam, not sure if you’ll answer based on the timing but I will give it a go. Do people with ADHD have a high comorbidity with this particular form of narcissism? ( or could they be likely to take it on )
Professor Vaknin, do you know that you describe russian gopniks just the clearest way they are? You have been teaching in Rostov, so you are almost for sure are familiar with these species!
This is really frightening 😮 What about people when they talk they never change their the tone of their voice. There’s no happiness, no anger no disappointment, like conversation without any emotion, so strange 😮
There is very little information about schizoid-narcissist phenomenon. And every lesson that you make is a golden nugget of information about this topic. Also THANK YOU for making videos like Schizoid Bible , a 5+ hours gem of a lesson... Wish you all the best...
good knowlegh for you that wanna know about schizoid-narcissist, schizophrenia positive period exchibit grandiosity(?).becous of schizophrenia exchibit very high dopamine and dopamine is foundation that grandiosity. It's same bipolar manic period. bipolar and schizophrenia is same many point genetic. known that bipolar likely to narcissist, same schizophrenia
This accurately describes my mother. Now I understand her self- isolation, and the things she does to herself that cause me to work harder in order to care for her. I felt she was doing these things on purpose, but said to myself "Who would do that?" The Loner Sadist would.
This is my mother. I've been NO CONTACT for 5 years now.
So that's what it was! Thank you more than I can express. I knew it was a form of NPD, and the person had self-diagnosed as a psychopath, but the description in this video is the most accurate in terms of their behaviour.
There is no other content like this anywhere on TH-cam! Dont kid yourself ppl! don’t even bother listening to other people or accounts speak about these topics! They don’t have a clue, None of them could ever hold a candle to this man!
Thank you Sam! ❤
Love that you are always updating Your channels your knowledgeable videos have been exceptionally helpful to understanding of my current situation …. unfortunately. lol though I’d be much more lost if I hadn’t found this channel, sure I can speak for many others who would still be in the dark aswell. very grateful for all you do and know! no one has a fkn clue about narcissists etc until they listen to this brilliant PRO! Nailed it. Everytime: thanks again prof. Sam for sharing. .
The funny thing is there are groups of narcissists and sociopaths who hate him. I always thought it’s because he exposes them so well. I’m a borderline and I know for facts he has my disorder pegged.
The person had little interest and took little pleasure in anything - only when bullying he was extremely animated, overjoyed, voracious even. There was an intensity to his glare, not present on any other occasion. He now lives in a tent in the woods, to the best of my knowledge.
Insane.
Thank you so much Dr. Vaknin for this episode .
Wow, this is the exact description. Now I understand and see clearly his duality and abrupt changes. Thank you
Wow!!! I almost wrote the same exact comment, I had the pleasure to learn all about after experience all of it… I was trying to find what type my ex was and now Dr. Sam dotted all my I’s
@@alinebatri5152Yes he put the final piece of the puzzle in place.
Yes I've met one. Diagnosed with bi-polar and schizophrenia. Prior to the diagnosis she had extreme covert narcissistic traits.Yes she was sadistic which she relished and fed off.
Yes exactly...
💯
So… you just described my ex and our relationship. Especially the push-pull dynamic of the need for others but also wanting to isolate. He hated himself because he wanted/needed the supply. Sometimes when the internal turmoil got bad enough, he would break down and cry, saying “I don’t want to feel like this anymore!”
When I confronted his about enjoying seeing me cry and hurting me, he acknowledged it but also said that he couldn't help it. It just happened, like a compulsion.
Would this mean that he was self-aware and there is hope for conscious behavior modification? Or is the illness behaviours hard-wired and not susceptible to neuroplasticity?
The contradictory nature of signals on the one hand being loving and concerned the strealing my possessions, the promise of ‘just us two’ while remaining with her violent ex, this all sums up mnpd. Grazi!
Thank you for your work and dedication to educating us and saving our lives.
That wasa stunning lesson from which I learned in which type of relationship I had been in!!!!
Thank you..understand my pain
If Sam read some stories by H.P. Lovecraft I would have to hide behind the sofa.
Feigned Empathy aka HELP & EXPLOIT
Yes indeed...
Wow! Such a helpful elaboration of such a complicated personality that I had a close encounter with, last few months. It has been painful. Thank you for this information. Understanding this helps me heal 🙏
you‘re educating videos, are worth gold dr. vaknin. thank you so much for all that you doing. 🙏🏼
And these people are around us all day every day...TY 4 sharing 💯 I feel so much more aware in my life since engaging with your content... I even feel abit safer within when you encounter those people who display the behaviors...
That’s a great image: pizza delivery guy arrives at Shangri-La.
I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for years and you are the only person who has given me a real answer.
Everything you described here is me...exactly and completely; I'm looking forward to the other videos.
There is a scene from a movie called "I'm a Cyborg but That's OK" where a girl in a psychiatric ward is approaching people and trying to shake their hands, but when they reach out to reciprocate she pulls her hand away and runs...over and over, with a look of confused distress/disgust on her face.
Eventually she exhausts herself with this cycle and passes out on a bench. I feel like that scene models the schizoid narcissist dilemma quite well.
Same here. I’m listening like “dayum, this is me”. Life is crazy.
Yikes.....horrifying.
I had a relationship with a schizoid malignant narcissist . He even wore a Diablo t-shirt at one point. I didn't know about this diagnosis until he told me he was bipolar and schizophrenic and has been hospitalized for behavioral rages. And he said he turned over a new leaf. He vowed undying love for me. I started watching TH-cam videos like yours.
You just described social media. ESPECIALLY the 'prank' TH-camrs.
Agent Smith from the matrix
My father too a T .
Thank you Prof. Vaknin
Could a female with this comorbidity present solely in passive aggressive ways. Without any display of overt anger, aggression or upset at all? Thanks for the information and honesty in the presentation.
Yes.
@@samvaknin my adopted daughter at 3, she has several of these, especially narc and i have had to make myself run, especially since she is 24 and has recently gotten a gun, she is now saying stalkers are after her and drinking poison and told the ER Dr who wanted to admit her than she yells at me in car!! and i told her u opened your mouth!! all we can do is pray for these people, because a narc never wants help or will admit to needing help
Thank you for your work.
very enlightening; finally understand my ex.
Thank you for this presentation doc 🇦🇺
Thank you for this video. It's a fascinating topic. I am already looking forward to more videos on this subject...
Thank you -- This helps a lot. I am looking forward to learning more and finding out if there is anything I need to do in my healing after decades of abuse - beyond what you have been suggesting for healing from narcissistic abuse.
this sounds just like me. wow.
Man is this accurate. I was involved with this. The contradiction is spot on
It's a sad thing to see in a person. Really hard to watch.
This is kind of frightening
My now dead spouse had schizoaffective disorder w major depressive disorder, covert malignant narcissist, BPD, psychopathy and ASPD plus drug addiction. He would of been a great study specimen for a psychologist
A 'delectable concoction' for sure only these people walk among us with no government health warning tattooed on their forehead.
Fascinating. Does it all really boil down to self hatred? Thanks for your cogent analysis. Always interesting and enlightening.
Good work ❤ see many types in the world. If they would take away self. And project love❤ who can stop that. Love never fails. I keep my distance because I can't lay hands on anyone. ❤ if I hug you. It's because your soul is good❤
Dr Vaknin can a young male start out as a borderline then as ages turn covert borderline then into this especially after 5 divorces and higher frequency of psychopathy in 40 and 50s?
Can this hybrid be an evolution or are they this way early on is my question
And thank you you’ve helped me so much
No.
Finally the puzzle is complete...thank you Sir for your teachings.
Schizoid malignant narcissist is a thing?! My ex was diagnosed as schizoid as a child but I swear he’s either narcissistic or sociopathic. I see the schizoid but the narcissism is prevalent. I mean, it’s documented he set fire to a cat as a child. And yet I still loved and took him back after I knew all that. 🤦🏼♀️
Wow, that's an unflattering title. [video proceeds to describe exactly me at times]
Oh.
Dear Prof. Vaknin, can you do a video about Wound Collectors in the future ? Thank you, there is not much about this topic on the TH-cam.
Search the channel for "grievance", "victimhood", and "woke".
Wow...this. This is him. Wow.
Wow.
The title just described the man i am currently stuck residing with! He is not my man. He was my best friend's husb til she died in my arms March 3 from copd. He was useless and i took care of her this past horrible year. I knew my situation was gonna get bad when she was gone. But did not count on now being 24/7 oxygen-dependent as of last week. My own copd plunged into end stage with pneumonia last Thursday. Home from hosp and he had shut off the AC , house 80 degrees and full of flies! He became psychotic when I turned the AC back on. He said "I am cold!" I am like boo hoo if you put on a shirt you won't be. I still can't breathe no matter how much clothing I take off. Dang. I can't afford to move but cant afford to stay. I don't deserve this. God will Show me a path. He always does! I want to tell this NPD to shut up and take the Seroquel he was prescribed for schizophrenia.
I must admit u read me like a book
Sounds like a pattern that eats the practitioner from the inside
I identify with some of this, but maybe to a less extreme standard. I have done the push pull but I am not really a violent person, and seeing people doesn't make angry so much as sad, but I identify with the fantasy of being endlessly alone
Very useful
Sadistic supply can also be remote, not just in person.
More dangerous to themselves than anyone
Prof. Vaknin, this video and the one about Covert Psychopath is such a revelation and answers so many questions. Thank you so much. Could there be a comorbidity between these two, Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Covert Psychopath? Strangely enough, I feel like I witnessed all of the mentioned patterns in both of these videos in one person. Would love to see more of this. thank you for your work.
This comorbidity is possible in principle.
@@samvaknin thank you! Will be waiting for your videos.
Sadism bad. Wanting to be left alone from a narcissist is ok. But you have to go no contact. Aggression will only work on bullies
With approach/avoidance repetition compulsion, how do we differentiate between a Schizoid Malignant Narcissist and Borderline Personality Disorder? Both are sadistic with what could appear to be engulfment anxiety.
Borderlines are not sadistic.
This video is about Unabomber?
He was a prominent exemplar of this subtype, yes.
Hehe the joys brought by the Interwebs 😅😅😅
Trapped in their own fantasy ?
I can’t help but think of Howard Hughes in his Las Vegas penthouse with Kleenex boxes on his feet. Wonder if true? Have to watch Melvin and Howard again. ;)
A video about Schizoid Malignant Covert Nacrissist would be interesting
Any advice for those in a sexual, co-habitating situation with this kind of individual? Simply leave?
No contact.
I am becoming that it seems !
How do you help people like this? I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be like this. There are so many videos describing narcs.etc but none offer any solutions or treatment. Please may you upload a video that offers help for these people. Many thanks.
Watch the therapies playlists.
Interesting
I wonde rif you can find these archetypes in the bdsm community as Dominatrices and Doms.. and what archetype would the Subs respresent in this dynamic..? There's a whole online world of BDSM where people like to dominate and/or be dominated in different ways.. i wonder, even if adhering to strict consent and safe words, and even after care, would engaging in these kinds of activities, though controlled and online, would these be considered schizoid narcissistic sadism?
Search the sexuality playlists.
Was married to one.
With appreciation and thank you very much
Prof. Sam Vaknin,
The question is :
How can a person have reassurance that he himself or she herself is not a narcissist or socio/ psychopath?
Watch the Mind playlist.
@@samvaknin th-cam.com/play/PL2CB712AE09C264EB.html&si=LGUOIg8QQXxfP8QV
This is the reference correct?
Hey Sam, not sure if you’ll answer based on the timing but I will give it a go. Do people with ADHD have a high comorbidity with this particular form of narcissism? ( or could they be likely to take it on )
Search the comorbidities playlist.
Sam, is It possible ASD co-occur with NPD? In this case how can one modifies the expression of the other????
Search the comorbidities playlist.
Is the paranoia also a part of this?
Yes.
Professor Vaknin, do you know that you describe russian gopniks just the clearest way they are? You have been teaching in Rostov, so you are almost for sure are familiar with these species!
Every country has them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
We were married to someone like this
This is really frightening 😮
What about people when they talk they never change their the tone of their voice. There’s no happiness, no anger no disappointment, like conversation without any emotion, so strange 😮
I laugh when I see the title , I am a loner and a little bit sadist