She's a beauty! I'm off on a fall ride tomorrow with my lady ...going over to Vancouver Island/Victoria British Columbia. The weather here has turned to fall/mild/smells like paradise! Going to get some good video hopefully and look forward to sharing. Thanks for the ride!
Just purchased a limited yesterday, love it. Rode it home in mid 90 degree weather, didnt even feel the heat of the motor......not at all like my 2010 ultra. Harley nailed it, great bike!
Look's like a winner. Thanks for the video! I'm 2012 SG vivid black owner with Vance & Hines Monster Wide Ovals , Stage 1 with 29,000 miles. Two 2 days ago test drove SGS 2017 crush pearl white , it only had 8 miles on it. The dealer had installed screaming eagle stuff , tuner, mufflers and L shape air cleaner. The white color with blue flakes, it was beautiful. The dash lay out and touch screen, wow. I was impressed . I was told to keep the rpms down . I didn't abused the new bike, keeped it under 3500 rpms.. The first impression , less idle noise, less idle rattle / shake/ vibration. The hydraulic clutch engages quickly and smooth, a difference feel from my cable clutch. Gear box was less noise ,too. The bike just feels and handles right , tight & sure. The power was 10% more than my old bike but this was new a bike so I was gentle. The 1600 dollars worth of Harley screaming eagle stuff was cool. The screaming eagle mufflers gave it a nice tone. Less noise/ vibration from the motor, suspension, handling and going over RR tracks are a big improvements. I needed to take it out for a half a day ride to really test it out. Also jury is not out on this whole new Harley yet. Next year I will buy the Ultra like you did. I think Harley Davidson got it right on with new motorcycle. Happy Riding! Steve
yes keep us informed on the plus and minus of this bike. will be looking and watching for any major flaws in the next couple of years before I make any upgrade decision. would like to see how reliable they are, and upkeep cost. Thanks for the walk around, and again congratulations. will be watching and listening.
@@CenobiteBeldar Yup! 2019 Tour DCT. Best bike I've ever owned! --And I had a 2003 Softail Standard, a 2006 Road King Classic, a 2014 Ultra, and a 2017 Ultra Limited with a Stage IV. None are anywhere near as fun or comfortable to ride. But they looked wayyyy cooler than my Wing ever could.
@@maikeli7 I’ve owned a 99 Honda rebel and a 2007 Honda shadow aero. I’ve been looking at a Road King standard brand new (whatever the year is I get it, not this year) and I’ve heard from a lot of people to get either an Indian or Goldwing for touring. Sucks Honda doesn’t make a shadow type motorcycle that can tour to compete with the road king and whatever Indian calls their road king competitor.
haha... we both have Vivid Black motorcycles now....such a great color...love the old school feeling that that color creates ... great walk around Mike
Hi there! Again! Yeah, I'm still doing my goofy videos, same as ever, though the bikes get better looking while I get uglier year by year. Welcome back!
Went back in today with my proper riding boots and no problem, waiting for delivery now, it's on the ship to Australia. Thanks heaps for your review. l'm one happy camper.
thanks , Ive got a 2012 SG now, Had 3 fatboys before that. I've never had good luck Negotiating with Harley. You said you got a Great Deal. Ive heard the Cycle Industry is down right now, Whats the best I can get when I go to talk ? thanks for any advise. bob ......... 2018 is the 115 Ann. Year !
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 Not sure. Mine's a 2013, and I discovered that feature by accident a couple weeks ago when I failed to put it in neutral when leaving a local watering hole. Hit the starter and got nothing. Then pulled the clutch in it started as normal.
Great Review. Thanks. Just got the Limitted Low, an upgrade from my ‘08 Deluxe. Wow. This bike is fantastic. My wife is a happy is camper as passenger comfort was a critical decision point. Aside from fit, there’s very little difference between the Low and standard versions. At 5’7”, prefer the ability to be flat footed at full stop. The 107 M8 has really got some get-up-n-go. I’ve added the 3-pocket windshield storage to maintain my old riding routine. Also added the chrome saddlebag guards and windshield trim. Will add some highway pegs next. Harley nailed it with this bike.
You know it! Man, that low must feel great in the curves. I sit up even higher than normal now because of the air ride seat. I would prefer to be down lower, but the comfort thing, as you said, is critical. So glad you are out there having fun! Stay safe!
Thanks! Your channel pushed me over the edge to make the leap to this bike. Time to enjoy life a little more. I rented the full size ultra (brand new 0 miles) for a week. It was a terrific bike, and after a few days of riding, and getting accustomed to it, Loved it. I’m just a bit “inseam challenged”, the Low is better fit. I’ll keep ya posted on how I in the curves, after some miles under my belt. Now that riding weather has arrived (South Shore, MA), it won’t take long. I gotta be careful with the electronics; which can be distracting to my 57 yr old “simple mind”; until they become 2nd nature. Also decided to upgrade to a full face helmet. Had one in my younger days and liked it. You seem to ride in comfort with one. Enjoy and stay safe! Luv the channel.
Andy E. I have never owned a Harley due to the cost of them in Australia, but I think I could be tempted to get one after checking out the new engine and the other improvements that Harley are now doing with their bikes. Love the new 2017 Ultra Limited. Stay upright and enjoy brother.
I bought the same one ! Just awaiting delivery in the next 2 weeks. I can`t wait, this is my first Harley-Davidson coming from a Ducati Multistrada 1200S
Why thank you, David! Never realized my simple little videos could serve in an ambassadorial capacity! :-O All I can do is speak my mind, and for what it's worth, people might be able to learn, be entertained, or have their insomnia cured. ;-) Thanks again!
Congratulations! I hope you have years of fun and stay safe out there. Some advice: Make sure you have the extended warranty. Check for oil coming out of the air cleaner. Check your oil level frequently. Do not use a tire pressure monitoring system if it is the type that screws on to the valve stems. You are just asking for a flat. While I am at it, get the tire and wheel plan.
What, no name reveal? You sir, are a tease! Of course that's meant in the best possible way, lol. The Limited is truly loaded out, and I love the Vivid Black with the silver striping. Ray Price really loads you up with swag. I got a t shirt, a hat, and a couple of plastic dealer key chains. And it isn't really a great t shirt! I'm not really complaining though, just enjoying the 2017 just like you are! Ride safe, and I hope we can ride before the next Hootenanny. Perhaps the Ebony and Ivory Tour?
Ooooo! I love it! The "Ebony and Ivory Tour"! Yes, we must try and make this happen!! As for the name, well, I thought I had one, but the more I used it, the more I disliked it. Now, I am musing on a few options. Stay tuned! The swag thing is great ain't it! And I loved the new shirt they gave me. Ray Price does it up right. I hope my videos generate plenty of business for them because they deserve it! Stay safe out there on Cash, the best SGS out on the road today!
I've been riding my trusty old Knucklehead for a long time. It's a stock '47, with a 74 cu. in. FL engine. It always got me to where I was going. But, it's getting hard to kick start now. My knees are getting bad. I see these newer Harleys just keep getting more fancy. But they are heavy. But I'm thinking of maybe trading up now. Never thought I ever would.
Hi, First of all I want to commend you on your detailed walk around, second, because I viewed that video I want to blame you for my recent purchase of an Electra Glide Ultra Classic. Before viewing your video I had a street glide special on order. But, after viewing your video I realized that the Electra Glide had all of the add-ons that I wanted to put on the SGS. After looking at the difference in price It turned out that by buying the 'bigger' bike I actually saved about 900 dollars. A little background this is my sixth bike, four (including this one) have been Harley's all purchase from the same dealer. I wasn't looking to buy, but after taking a demo ride on a SGS I was hooked. So, last Friday (9/30/16) I said good-bye to my faithful 2011 Road King Classic and brought home the Electra Glide. I can't believe how much better the ride and handling is when compared to my old Road King. It does not feel, or handled like an 900 pound beast. So, in closing I want to thank you for the video and for saving me 900 dollars. Andy Colon, Colonel, USAF (RET) EMAIL: AF1eagle1@hotmail.com or colona217@gmail.com
Hahaha!! Well then! Thanks for the great comment. I know you are just loving the heck out of life and riding these days. Dang that MoCo and their amazing upgrades! I'm glad you went the less expensive route. Heck, if you decide on a sleeker look, just get the quick-remove kit. Thanks again, and stay safe out there! :-D
Thanks for an excellent walk around! The new Harley's motors Dyno Results - HP and Torque - are: For 107ci, it has 80hp and "98" torque, and, For 114ci, it has 87hp and "111" torque! Impressive numbers, and with less overall shaking and a smoother transmission - for 2017, l may go back to HD.
Re-checked those dyno results online via another site (widely available) and the numbers are the same! In any event, it is a great bike and l am currently negotiating with my dealer for a trade...cannot come yet to a mutually acceptable deal!
I'm still going with the specs on the computer at my dealership, unless of course those specs were a lie. --Which is entirely possible for a dealership.
With the proximity key fob in range of the bike, power it up and then hold the throttle open (engine not running). First one fan will start and then a moment or two later, the other fan will start. Cool fan test sequence. Great review! Seriously thinking of trading up from my 2015.
Hahaha! They ought to hire me! I LOVE talking up this brand. I hope that you love your bike as much as I have loved mine. I'm up to about 1700 miles so far and I'm still very much in love!
I have heard mixed reviews on the Road Glide. Myself, I don't like the extended reach to get to the console and info system. But to each his own. I love my bike, and I hope you love yours too!
Sorry for the misspelling, darn youtube, once you posted, you can't edit back the comments...I meant to say the most of the Rushmore parts have been fully tested on the '14 to '16 bikes, so I expect your '17, hopefully will be "bullet proof".... Congrats again, I may move up to the M8 one of these years, what an awesome update from Harley Davidson...I guess the loss of sales and market shares, is forcing them to improve faster that usual...competition is good...Ride Safe...
They have a new dude at corporate who spearheaded the Rushmore thing and has made customer-input and design innovation priorities like never before. I think his strategy is working wonderfully!
Just be aware that there is a problem with oil leaking out of the breather assembly on some of these, mine included. It is covered under warranty, but it is a pain anyway.
Was at the dealer eyeing the new Street Glide Special because I will probably trade my VRCF in soon, but then I figured get the Limited with the Tour Pack detachable kit added on so it'll be like two different bikes. So thanks for this video. Pretty much sold me on the Limited since I was wondering about the radiant heat you feel between the air cooled and twin cooled engines.
Thanks for the comment, Rob. The detach kit is a good idea if you want the bike to look and ride like the SGS. My friend HarleyTrek has the new SGS, and surprisingly, he said he has not noticed any heat. I think having no lowers makes the SGS feel cooler, despite the lack of liquid cooling. Either way, a '17 will leave you grinning from ear to ear!
Hey there, I am too, an early adapter on my '14 Limited just like you and "knock on wood", it all good. Matter of fact, I heard and contrary to what some are saying about bugs on first year models, these are actually the best made and assembled from the factory as it gets lots attention to detail and actually, a lot of the pasts have been beta testing on the '14 to '16 project Rushmore bikes... Enjoy, looking forward to your on road review of the new '17 M8--thanks for sharing....
Thanks! Much appreciated, and congrats on your great new bike! I suspect these bikes will perform quite admirably. The MoCo tends to do their homework these days. Stay tuned for the road review!
Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 I also figured out the road zeppelin seat, it was a return I guess and some had notched the front slot about 2 inches, that is why the front was sliding around. I took it back and got a new one. Thank you for the help!
Thomas Henderson I love the sound of the stock exhaust. It actually gets better the more I ride. I might do a stage one, but not for at least a year. As of 1700 miles, the bike is damned near perfect!
Got a 14 limited I'll keep what I have....got vance and hines from front to back...making good power....I like the 17 but not enough to give up what I have now..
WOW! There is so much information in this video. An excellent guide for anyone who might be thinking of doing this upgrade. Very thorough and honest. You have outdone yourself, Mike! Very nice production. I'm very happy that you were able to do this for yourself. Like I was telling Mark the other day: making an investment in your happiness will without question be to your benefit in the long run. Grinning ear to ear for you, my brother!!! The shoe appears to be on the other foot now. Now I am wishing you well on your new motorcycle purchase :) Ride safe out there! I can't WAIT to see this thing in person!!!!
Thanks, Pat for the awesome comment. I felt bad that it took so long to get this video out there, but I wanted to do it right. Hopefully the info will be helpful to prospective riders of this model. Must be somethin' about us Hillians, buyin' new bikes and whatnot! Can't wait to ride with you again! Till then, we'll see you on the TH-cams. Stay safe out there!
Out of the 9 of us, nearly half of us have bought new motorcycles this year. Ain't that some shit! I started the trend!!! :D LOL. Thanks for the informative video. You're doing the TH-cam thing proper, buddy! I feel bad that I still haven't bought a camera yet. But life is getting in the way. Oh well. My 5 subscribers probably don't care :) take care and be safe!!
Maikeli7: I want to see the overall performance of the bike and reliability. Maybe, one cam and 4 valves per cylinder is a great set up, maybe not. Also, cooling system is somewhat new.......I think my 2010 is a little simpler. I could be completely wrong though, so.....
I was skeptical myself of the cooling system and hydraulic braking systems on the Project Rushmore bikes that first came out on the 2014 models. I bought the 2014 Ultra, but not the liquid-cooled Limited for just that reason. Turns out there have been no major issues with either innovation, so this time, I decided to go for the new thing. I've only got 1600 miles on the odo since September, but so far, not one thing has gone the least bit wrong. Stay tuned for my continual product reviewing!
All the same features as the 2016 but the engine is different and the horn cover and the bag release. Mine does have the air shocks. The cat is forward of the right rear muffler inside the header pipe. Love the Limited.
Does the '16 have the same transmission with the anti-backlash thing? You really need to check out how the new suspension handles. It has revolutionized my cornering. The Limited is definitely preferable to the regular Ultra.
Thanks for this detailed informative video. Absolutely gorgeous ! Love the high gloss finish Around the infotainment area. Love that new cowbell. I can see you are a very happy & proud owner ! CONGRATS AGAIN ! By the way ..... What do you & your subscribers say about this ..... ?? I was at a Harley Dealer Irvine , Ca. re: this same bike but with the Road Glide FAIRING ! They said it offers better wind protection ! It does ... I test rode both models. They said bikers trade in your model ( street glide fairing ) for the Road Glide fairing .... But never the other way around !! I don't know ... Don't think I much like the road glide fairing over the street glide fairing although it does offer better wind protection ! What do you guys say ??
Thanks, Eddie! You are right: I love my new bike! As for the Road Glide fairing, I am not a fan. I have never test ridden one, mind you, but I think it is unattractive. It could offer all the wind protection in the world, but if I don't like the way it looks, I ain't buyin' it. But that's just my opinion. I will be interested to see what other people think. I might even ask this in a video. Thanks again and ride safe!
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 Hey 😎 re: That KLUNCK .... Lol- When I purchased my Honda STATELINE 1300cc Engine the Tranny was VERY SMOOTH. Then I traded it in this Feb. for my Yamaha Roadliner 1854 cc engine. Then I noticed / Heard that KLUNCK !! At first it freaked me a little , cause I wasn't used to it. Today , however ... I Love that loud KLUNCK !!! It reminds me and the people around me The Beast that I am riding !!!!! 👀❤️👍😵 lol -
Yeah, I heard that customers liked that noise. I still hear it sometimes. It depends. I prefer a bit of a clunk because that confirms that I am in gear.
I loved the Ultra I rode. question, are your feet on the ground flat? I'm only about 5' 8" and found i was more on my toes which concerns me a bit. The seat height is 740mm stock. Cheers.
iansouthoz I recommend test riding the ultra low. If you're touching your tippy toes, then you probably want to try the low version, especially if you ever get the air ride seat.
Love your ride buddy. I've been checking out all the videos I can on the new engine and I gotta say I'm really loving what I'm seeing. I have one question that no one has discussed yet. Does it look like it will be a very involved process to change the plugs? I don't mean the primary side of course but the ones in the new position on the other side. Does it look like a guy could get in their with a sparkplug socket? It almost looks like the tank would need to be lifted to access them. Figured a guy who has one would be able to give us the heads up on this.
Well, since I am an English teacher and have no talent for gear-head things, I could not tell you, especially since I just bought this one three or so days ago. However, I do not think it would be too difficult to get at them because the air cleaner cover will come off without a whole lot of fuss. After that, I think getting to the plugs would be a cinch.
Thank you anyway for responding. I guess its because I've been riding since the days when Harleys were pretty horrible pieces of machinery and if you rode one you had to know how to fix them. I forget that isn't always the case now since the bikes have gotten more reliable. And please don't take that as a slur against you because its not meant to be. I respect anyone who owns a bike and actually rides it like you obviously do. I know so many that talk a good ride but barely leave their garage. I'm sure someone will eventually comment on the 4 plug system, good or bad. Enjoy your new bike. it's a beauty. I stumbled upon your vlog just today and I've enjoyed it. I'll be watching for more posts
Thanks, Daniel. No offense taken. I own the fact that I cannot wrench. It ain't for lack of trying. I've killed two mowers and ripped a head bolt out of my Road King Classic. I just have no knack for it. Now, house stuff? I have no problem. I can do everything in the house, from flooring to molding to electrical and even plumbing. If I break something, it won't necessarily kill me like messing with a bike very well might. Thanks for the kind words. I do try to ride whenever possible. My favorite time is in colder weather, with there being no bottom limit I have felt yet. It only gets down to about 9 degrees here, so I can't encounter the cold I grew up on back in Boston. But I do not ride on ice! Gotta draw the line somewhere, eh? Thanks again and ride safe!
How hard is it to remove the trunk on this bike and can you to make it a bagger? Can you get the 114cc engine on this bike? Beautiful bike and great review!
The TourPak is hard to remove, but you can buy a quick-disconnect kit from Harley. Make it a bagger? What do you mean? Leather saddle bags? The only bikes running the 114 are the CVOs, but you can do a Stage 3 or 4 upgrade and get the 114. Thanks for the great comment!
Maikeli7, thanks for the info. I was referring to just having the saddlebags and no trunk when I said bagger, sorry for the confusion. I will look up the quick disconnect. for the trunk.
Awesome! I think you covered just about everything except performance such as acceleration rate and braking etc. I've stopped by my local Sacramento HD dealership a few weeks ago and they wanted $41,500 for the same bike. Did you get a better deal than that?
According to the EPA release, the new 107 produces 92.53 horsepower (69kw) @ 5020 rpm, and the 114 produces 100.57 horsepower (75kw) @ 5020 rpm for the 114.
GREAT post, thank you. I'm new to Harley, I'm an old car dog now learning and running a Harley store. This was a GREAT walk around, if you ever need a job PLEASE PM me. :)
Hahaha! Thanks, Kevin! You know, I have often thought about working in some capacity for the Motor Company. Heck, I've probably sold at least ten Harleys for them over the years! Best wishes on your new business venture! If you ever need a review of something about the Ultra Limited, let me know!
The Milwaukee 8 engines include the 107, but I understand that there's supposed to be the 114 as well. Have you heard of it? My own bike is the '06 HD Ultra Classic Peace Officer Edition with the Stage 1 upgrade (racing cams, supertuner), and came with the Vance & Hines Super Oval exhaust pipes. But I'd trade for a red Ultra Low with liquid cooling, and the 107 engine if the payment was right.
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 I never got a chance to ride ur model with the old motor, I did take out n vlog the RGU 2 up, it was just to top heavy, but seemed like an awesome cross country bike ..
I was going to trade my Deuce in for one of these but changed my mind after a test ride. The heat off the engine was unbearable. I really wanted it but the engine heat was Hell!
None of the Limited's had the tool kit at my dealership either. I think they are taking them out and selling them in parts or employees rob them. Never had one in any of the bikes I buy.
Excellent point on the side bag inside latches, may not be a positive change. You know some people are pissed off right now, how you like to be the person that just recently (before the M8 engine announcement) just bought a 2016 touring bike with the 103 engine, just gave HD 20K + $$$ , then you find out about the M8 bikes.....I would really be pissed off !!!
She's a beauty! I'm off on a fall ride tomorrow with my lady ...going over to Vancouver Island/Victoria British Columbia. The weather here has turned to fall/mild/smells like paradise! Going to get some good video hopefully and look forward to sharing. Thanks for the ride!
Hope you have a great ride and an awesome weekend! Stay safe out there.
Nice walk around! enjoyed it. Picked mine up on Saturday and love it! Darryl in England
darryl watt Congratulations!
Have a great and safe riding season!
Just purchased a limited yesterday, love it. Rode it home in mid 90 degree weather, didnt even feel the heat of the motor......not at all like my 2010 ultra. Harley nailed it, great bike!
Lol, wow......I didn't realize I had commented on this post 6 months ago......really weird, I never looked down in the comment section.......
Look's like a winner. Thanks for the video!
I'm 2012 SG vivid black owner with Vance & Hines Monster Wide Ovals , Stage 1 with 29,000 miles. Two 2 days ago test drove SGS 2017 crush pearl white , it only had 8 miles on it. The dealer had installed screaming eagle stuff , tuner, mufflers and L shape air cleaner. The white color with blue flakes, it was beautiful. The dash lay out and touch screen, wow.
I was impressed . I was told to keep the rpms down . I didn't abused the new bike, keeped it under 3500 rpms.. The first impression , less idle noise, less idle rattle / shake/ vibration. The hydraulic clutch engages quickly and smooth, a difference feel from my cable clutch. Gear box was less noise ,too. The bike just feels and handles right , tight & sure. The power was 10% more than my old bike but this was new a bike so I was gentle. The 1600 dollars worth of Harley screaming eagle stuff was cool. The screaming eagle mufflers gave it a nice tone. Less noise/ vibration from the motor, suspension, handling and going over RR tracks are a big improvements. I needed to take it out for a half a day ride to really test it out. Also jury is not out on this whole new Harley yet. Next year I will buy the Ultra like you did. I think Harley Davidson got it right on with new motorcycle. Happy Riding!
Steve
Sounds like a great bike! Like you, I also hope the new stuff is good in the long run. Only time and mileage will tell! RSMF
I agree, enjoy your day!
yes keep us informed on the plus and minus of this bike. will be looking and watching for any major flaws in the next couple of years before I make any upgrade decision. would like to see how reliable they are, and upkeep cost. Thanks for the walk around, and again congratulations. will be watching and listening.
Will do. I hope all goes as well as with my '14 and with my '05 RKC!
Best vid I've seen yet describing features and functions. Bike sounds great, best stock bike sound, IMHO. I still like the shiny black!
Thank you kindly, Doc! Much appreciated. I also love the stock sound. It is plenty loud enough for me.
Very beautiful. It’s crazy to see an engine on a current Road King standard was once on a higher priced model.
I’m rocking a 6-cyllinder now. 😎👍🏻
@@maikeli7 gold wing?
@@CenobiteBeldar Yup! 2019 Tour DCT. Best bike I've ever owned! --And I had a 2003 Softail Standard, a 2006 Road King Classic, a 2014 Ultra, and a 2017 Ultra Limited with a Stage IV.
None are anywhere near as fun or comfortable to ride.
But they looked wayyyy cooler than my Wing ever could.
@@maikeli7 I’ve owned a 99 Honda rebel and a 2007 Honda shadow aero. I’ve been looking at a Road King standard brand new (whatever the year is I get it, not this year) and I’ve heard from a lot of people to get either an Indian or Goldwing for touring. Sucks Honda doesn’t make a shadow type motorcycle that can tour to compete with the road king and whatever Indian calls their road king competitor.
Congrats on the new bike she is very beautiful indeed! Very detailed walk around I enjoyed the introduction to the new bike.
Ride safe!✌🏿️
Thanks so much, K! Much appreciated. :-D
haha... we both have Vivid Black motorcycles now....such a great color...love the old school feeling
that that color creates ... great walk around Mike
Thanks, brother! We have great taste in motorcycles!
Where the shift linkage connects to the transmission is much different on the '17s too. Great review Mike...
Thanks, Ryan! I didn't know about the shift linkage change! :-D
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Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007
Yea. Take a close look at any other pre-2017 and you'll see it. Ride safe bud
Sweet bike and good presentation. Very thorough. Lucky man to have such a great toy. Im jealous.
Thanks, GW! I am lucky indeed! I hope this video helps others who are thinking about this bike.
Congrats on the new bike! Just found your channel again , I was first subbed back in 08 or 09 when you were on the road king If I remember correctly.
Hi there! Again! Yeah, I'm still doing my goofy videos, same as ever, though the bikes get better looking while I get uglier year by year. Welcome back!
Great review. Really thinking about the 2018 Ultra Limited Low, as I'm vertically challenged, so your thorough review was fantastic. I appreciate it!
Thanks! I hope you end up as happy as I have been!
Went back in today with my proper riding boots and no problem, waiting for delivery now, it's on the ship to Australia. Thanks heaps for your review. l'm one happy camper.
iansouthoz Congratulations on your new adventure! I am certain you will love your new scoot as much as I love mine. 😊
EXCELLENT walkaround. I watched every minute.
Thanks, brother! I tried to think of as much as I could.
Very nice review I really enjoyed it thank you for the video.
Im thinking of upgrading to this bike . thanks for this vid., i needed this info. I think I may wait for the 2018 since I'm so close now . bob
bob clapper I say wait. Who knows what great stuff they might be about to offer!?
bob clapper Glad this video was helpful!
Tcrs
thanks , Ive got a 2012 SG now, Had 3 fatboys before that. I've never had good luck Negotiating with Harley. You said you got a Great Deal. Ive heard the Cycle Industry is down right now, Whats the best I can get when I go to talk ? thanks for any advise. bob ......... 2018 is the 115 Ann. Year !
Wow, congrats on the sweet new bike! Nice walk-around too. My non-Rushmore Road Glide Custom will not start when in gear either.
I wonder when they changed it. My '05 Road King Classic would jump forward if I tried to start it in gear.
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 Not sure. Mine's a 2013, and I discovered that feature by accident a couple weeks ago when I failed to put it in neutral when leaving a local watering hole. Hit the starter and got nothing. Then pulled the clutch in it started as normal.
I bet they made the change in 2009, when they came out with the new frame, 6-speed transmission, throttle-by-wire, and 6-gallon fuel tank.
sorry had to watch it again! love the video. awesome job showing that beautiful bike! thanks again for the video!!
Hahaha! So glad you have enjoyed it! :-D
Great Review. Thanks. Just got the Limitted Low, an upgrade from my ‘08 Deluxe. Wow. This bike is fantastic. My wife is a happy is camper as passenger comfort was a critical decision point. Aside from fit, there’s very little difference between the Low and standard versions. At 5’7”, prefer the ability to be flat footed at full stop. The 107 M8 has really got some get-up-n-go. I’ve added the 3-pocket windshield storage to maintain my old riding routine. Also added the chrome saddlebag guards and windshield trim. Will add some highway pegs next. Harley nailed it with this bike.
You know it! Man, that low must feel great in the curves. I sit up even higher than normal now because of the air ride seat. I would prefer to be down lower, but the comfort thing, as you said, is critical.
So glad you are out there having fun!
Stay safe!
Thanks! Your channel pushed me over the edge to make the leap to this bike. Time to enjoy life a little more. I rented the full size ultra (brand new 0 miles) for a week. It was a terrific bike, and after a few days of riding, and getting accustomed to it, Loved it. I’m just a bit “inseam challenged”, the Low is better fit. I’ll keep ya posted on how I in the curves, after some miles under my belt. Now that riding weather has arrived (South Shore, MA), it won’t take long. I gotta be careful with the electronics; which can be distracting to my 57 yr old “simple mind”; until they become 2nd nature. Also decided to upgrade to a full face helmet. Had one in my younger days and liked it. You seem to ride in comfort with one. Enjoy and stay safe! Luv the channel.
Rob Cote I know you are lovinglife right now! Welcome to the club. I hope you have a great and safe season of riding!
Andy E. I have never owned a Harley due to the cost of them in Australia, but I think I could be tempted to get one after checking out the new engine and the other improvements that Harley are now doing with their bikes. Love the new 2017 Ultra Limited. Stay upright and enjoy brother.
Thanks, Andrew. Much appreciated! Hope it works out for you!! :-)
Sweet. You'll love the infotainment system.
It's so much easier to use than my old one!
I bought the same one ! Just awaiting delivery in the next 2 weeks. I can`t wait, this is my first Harley-Davidson coming from a Ducati Multistrada 1200S
Welcome to the lap of luxury! You will be very happy!! :-D Lemme know if you have any questions.
That was a really informative video, thanks, and you're a great ambassador for the US and Harley too. Nice one.
Why thank you, David! Never realized my simple little videos could serve in an ambassadorial capacity! :-O
All I can do is speak my mind, and for what it's worth, people might be able to learn, be entertained, or have their insomnia cured. ;-)
Thanks again!
I enjoy all your videos. With an MSRP of 27-29k, this is as close as I'll get to one.
I’m picking up a new one Saturday.
Congratulations! I hope you have years of fun and stay safe out there. Some advice: Make sure you have the extended warranty. Check for oil coming out of the air cleaner. Check your oil level frequently. Do not use a tire pressure monitoring system if it is the type that screws on to the valve stems. You are just asking for a flat.
While I am at it, get the tire and wheel plan.
Congratulations on your new ride brother enjoy!
Thanks, Jim. Much appreciated!
What, no name reveal? You sir, are a tease! Of course that's meant in the best possible way, lol. The Limited is truly loaded out, and I love the Vivid Black with the silver striping. Ray Price really loads you up with swag. I got a t shirt, a hat, and a couple of plastic dealer key chains. And it isn't really a great t shirt! I'm not really complaining though, just enjoying the 2017 just like you are! Ride safe, and I hope we can ride before the next Hootenanny. Perhaps the Ebony and Ivory Tour?
Ooooo! I love it! The "Ebony and Ivory Tour"! Yes, we must try and make this happen!!
As for the name, well, I thought I had one, but the more I used it, the more I disliked it. Now, I am musing on a few options. Stay tuned!
The swag thing is great ain't it! And I loved the new shirt they gave me. Ray Price does it up right. I hope my videos generate plenty of business for them because they deserve it!
Stay safe out there on Cash, the best SGS out on the road today!
Appreciate the vid. Thinking of getting a gl and a harley
I think you will be very happy. At least I hope so!
Nice review -- exactly what I was looking for. Suddenly my 2007 looks so antiquated.
Hahaha! They really have raised the bar!
I've been riding my trusty old Knucklehead for a long time. It's a stock '47, with a 74 cu. in. FL engine. It always got me to where I was going. But, it's getting hard to kick start now. My knees are getting bad. I see these newer Harleys just keep getting more fancy. But they are heavy. But I'm thinking of maybe trading up now. Never thought I ever would.
Sweet bike. looking at this and the Street Glides.
Hi, First of all I want to commend you on your detailed walk around, second, because I viewed that video I want to blame you for my recent purchase of an Electra Glide Ultra Classic. Before viewing your video I had a street glide special on order. But, after viewing your video I realized that the Electra Glide had all of the add-ons that I wanted to put on the SGS. After looking at the difference in price It turned out that by buying the 'bigger' bike I actually saved about 900 dollars. A little background this is my sixth bike, four (including this one) have been Harley's all purchase from the same dealer. I wasn't looking to buy, but after taking a demo ride on a SGS I was hooked. So, last Friday (9/30/16) I said good-bye to my faithful 2011 Road King Classic and brought home the Electra Glide. I can't believe how much better the ride and handling is when compared to my old Road King. It does not feel, or handled like an 900 pound beast. So, in closing I want to thank you for the video and for saving me 900 dollars.
Andy Colon, Colonel, USAF (RET)
EMAIL: AF1eagle1@hotmail.com or colona217@gmail.com
Hahaha!! Well then! Thanks for the great comment. I know you are just loving the heck out of life and riding these days. Dang that MoCo and their amazing upgrades! I'm glad you went the less expensive route. Heck, if you decide on a sleeker look, just get the quick-remove kit. Thanks again, and stay safe out there! :-D
such a detailed review and sweet ride by the way :)
Thank you, Harish. Much appreciated! :-D
All looks and sounds good. Hope you get some decent weather for a month or two to get her properly run in.
Haha! Yes! My weather starts now. From here until the end of May, I'll be out and about as much as possible!
Great overview. Good looking bike. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks. Much appreciated! :-D
Nice job, thorough walk around, helpful info!
Thanks for the excellent review. Enjoy your new ride.
Thanks. Much appreciated! :-)
Richard.....thanks for a great review. Really appreciate it!
Thanks! Who is Richard?
Thanks for an excellent walk around! The new Harley's motors Dyno Results - HP and Torque - are: For 107ci, it has 80hp and "98" torque, and, For 114ci, it has 87hp and "111" torque!
Impressive numbers, and with less overall shaking and a smoother transmission - for 2017, l may go back to HD.
According to the specs on my bike at the dealership, the 107 makes 111 fpt.
No matter what, this new M8 engine and the new suspension make this bike a whole different animal!
Re-checked those dyno results online via another site (widely available) and the numbers are the same!
In any event, it is a great bike and l am currently negotiating with my dealer for a trade...cannot come yet to a mutually acceptable deal!
I'm still going with the specs on the computer at my dealership, unless of course those specs were a lie. --Which is entirely possible for a dealership.
Check out this website, which shows the torque to be 113!
www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/ultra-limited/specs.html
With the proximity key fob in range of the bike, power it up and then hold the throttle open (engine not running). First one fan will start and then a moment or two later, the other fan will start. Cool fan test sequence. Great review!
Seriously thinking of trading up from my 2015.
Cool! I will need to read my owner's manual when I get a chance. Man, there are not enough hours in the day anymore!
Chris Lonsberry sent me lol just subscribed . Nice bike
Thanks! Welcome aboard. Stay safe out there!
Thanks so much for your video. I'm going to get one in the spring. Your the best sales guy that have at Harley...........
Hahaha! They ought to hire me! I LOVE talking up this brand. I hope that you love your bike as much as I have loved mine. I'm up to about 1700 miles so far and I'm still very much in love!
Perfect combination of black and chrome.
It was a hellbent for leather beast of a bike.
Nice bike! Congrats!
Sorry, Mike! This is an old video. If you look at my new stuff, you may well be angry.
Great video- helped a lot as I think thru a road glide ultra vs Ultra limited
I have heard mixed reviews on the Road Glide. Myself, I don't like the extended reach to get to the console and info system. But to each his own. I love my bike, and I hope you love yours too!
Sorry for the misspelling, darn youtube, once you posted, you can't edit back the comments...I meant to say the most of the Rushmore parts have been fully tested on the '14 to '16 bikes, so I expect your '17, hopefully will be "bullet proof"....
Congrats again, I may move up to the M8 one of these years, what an awesome update from Harley Davidson...I guess the loss of sales and market shares, is forcing them to improve faster that usual...competition is good...Ride Safe...
They have a new dude at corporate who spearheaded the Rushmore thing and has made customer-input and design innovation priorities like never before. I think his strategy is working wonderfully!
Very cool... congratulations, man!
Thanks. I am a very happy guy!
I'm looking at one of these, thanks for the great info!
Just be aware that there is a problem with oil leaking out of the breather assembly on some of these, mine included. It is covered under warranty, but it is a pain anyway.
Thank you!
Very nice review!
Thank you! :-D
great vlog, test riding one today.
iansouthoz Thanks, Ian. Hope you have a great test ride!
Was at the dealer eyeing the new Street Glide Special because I will probably trade my VRCF in soon, but then I figured get the Limited with the Tour Pack detachable kit added on so it'll be like two different bikes. So thanks for this video. Pretty much sold me on the Limited since I was wondering about the radiant heat you feel between the air cooled and twin cooled engines.
Thanks for the comment, Rob. The detach kit is a good idea if you want the bike to look and ride like the SGS. My friend HarleyTrek has the new SGS, and surprisingly, he said he has not noticed any heat. I think having no lowers makes the SGS feel cooler, despite the lack of liquid cooling. Either way, a '17 will leave you grinning from ear to ear!
I've been waiting for this. Congrats again man !
Thanks, Richard! Glad to have gotten this out there.
Hey there, I am too, an early adapter on my '14 Limited just like you and "knock on wood", it all good. Matter of fact, I heard and contrary to what some are saying about bugs on first year models, these are actually the best made and assembled from the factory as it gets lots attention to detail and actually, a lot of the pasts have been beta testing on the '14 to '16 project Rushmore bikes...
Enjoy, looking forward to your on road review of the new '17 M8--thanks for sharing....
Thanks! Much appreciated, and congrats on your great new bike! I suspect these bikes will perform quite admirably. The MoCo tends to do their homework these days. Stay tuned for the road review!
Well, i have not rode in ten years. I am picking up my used new 2017 ultra tomorrow. I cant wait. Cause i knkw that i will put some miles on it.
I just traded my 2016 triglide for a 2017 limited, can't wait til spring to go for a ride.
Congratulations! You will be very happy!
Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 I also figured out the road zeppelin seat, it was a return I guess and some had notched the front slot about 2 inches, that is why the front was sliding around. I took it back and got a new one. Thank you for the help!
Have you done any upgrades to yours like stage 1? dod you like the Stock exhaust?
Thomas Henderson I love the sound of the stock exhaust. It actually gets better the more I ride. I might do a stage one, but not for at least a year. As of 1700 miles, the bike is damned near perfect!
Do you like the new rear shocks over the old air ones?
Got a 14 limited I'll keep what I have....got vance and hines from front to back...making good power....I like the 17 but not enough to give up what I have now..
WOW! There is so much information in this video. An excellent guide for anyone who might be thinking of doing this upgrade. Very thorough and honest. You have outdone yourself, Mike! Very nice production. I'm very happy that you were able to do this for yourself. Like I was telling Mark the other day: making an investment in your happiness will without question be to your benefit in the long run. Grinning ear to ear for you, my brother!!! The shoe appears to be on the other foot now. Now I am wishing you well on your new motorcycle purchase :) Ride safe out there! I can't WAIT to see this thing in person!!!!
Thanks, Pat for the awesome comment. I felt bad that it took so long to get this video out there, but I wanted to do it right. Hopefully the info will be helpful to prospective riders of this model. Must be somethin' about us Hillians, buyin' new bikes and whatnot! Can't wait to ride with you again!
Till then, we'll see you on the TH-cams. Stay safe out there!
Out of the 9 of us, nearly half of us have bought new motorcycles this year. Ain't that some shit! I started the trend!!! :D LOL. Thanks for the informative video. You're doing the TH-cam thing proper, buddy! I feel bad that I still haven't bought a camera yet. But life is getting in the way. Oh well. My 5 subscribers probably don't care :) take care and be safe!!
Know that when you do start making motovlogs, I will be there. Hell, any video you make, I'll be watching!
After watching this.....I think I'll hang on to my 2010 ultra classic...
ray bonzani Any reasons?
Maikeli7: I want to see the overall performance of the bike and reliability. Maybe, one cam and 4 valves per cylinder is a great set up, maybe not. Also, cooling system is somewhat new.......I think my 2010 is a little simpler. I could be completely wrong though, so.....
I was skeptical myself of the cooling system and hydraulic braking systems on the Project Rushmore bikes that first came out on the 2014 models. I bought the 2014 Ultra, but not the liquid-cooled Limited for just that reason. Turns out there have been no major issues with either innovation, so this time, I decided to go for the new thing. I've only got 1600 miles on the odo since September, but so far, not one thing has gone the least bit wrong. Stay tuned for my continual product reviewing!
Wow awesome can't wait to pick up mine
Great video....most informative video out there. Thanks.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it!
All the same features as the 2016 but the engine is different and the horn cover and the bag release.
Mine does have the air shocks.
The cat is forward of the right rear muffler inside the header pipe.
Love the Limited.
Does the '16 have the same transmission with the anti-backlash thing? You really need to check out how the new suspension handles. It has revolutionized my cornering.
The Limited is definitely preferable to the regular Ultra.
Thanks for this detailed informative video. Absolutely gorgeous ! Love the high gloss finish Around the infotainment area. Love that new cowbell. I can see you are a very happy & proud owner ! CONGRATS AGAIN !
By the way ..... What do you & your subscribers say about this ..... ??
I was at a Harley Dealer Irvine , Ca.
re: this same bike but with the Road Glide FAIRING ! They said it offers better wind protection ! It does ... I test rode both models. They said bikers trade in your model ( street glide fairing ) for the Road Glide fairing .... But never the other way around !!
I don't know ... Don't think I much like the road glide fairing over the street glide fairing although it does offer better wind protection !
What do you guys say ??
I prefer the classic look w/ the passing lamps ... Guess I'm willing to take that look that I Love OVER functionality ! lol-
Thanks, Eddie! You are right: I love my new bike! As for the Road Glide fairing, I am not a fan. I have never test ridden one, mind you, but I think it is unattractive. It could offer all the wind protection in the world, but if I don't like the way it looks, I ain't buyin' it. But that's just my opinion. I will be interested to see what other people think. I might even ask this in a video.
Thanks again and ride safe!
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007
Hey 😎 re: That KLUNCK .... Lol-
When I purchased my Honda STATELINE 1300cc Engine the Tranny was VERY SMOOTH.
Then I traded it in this Feb. for my Yamaha Roadliner 1854 cc engine.
Then I noticed / Heard that KLUNCK !!
At first it freaked me a little , cause I wasn't used to it. Today , however ... I Love that loud KLUNCK !!! It reminds me and the people around me The Beast that I am riding !!!!! 👀❤️👍😵 lol -
Yeah, I heard that customers liked that noise. I still hear it sometimes. It depends. I prefer a bit of a clunk because that confirms that I am in gear.
Nice bike bro 👌🏼
Henk Bouwels Thanks!
Thank you for the upload.
You are quite welcome!
Did you find the multitool? i will be saveing up for the bike another two years till i have the cash,thanx again.
Looks like a beast, enjoy it, keep the shiny side up
Thanks! I'm one happy customer!
Great video thanks for all the info.
Glad it helped! :-D
I loved the Ultra I rode. question, are your feet on the ground flat? I'm only about 5' 8" and found i was more on my toes which concerns me a bit. The seat height is 740mm stock.
Cheers.
iansouthoz I recommend test riding the ultra low. If you're touching your tippy toes, then you probably want to try the low version, especially if you ever get the air ride seat.
awesome video thanks! love the bike. enjoy.
Thanks, Dave! I am so happy!!
Great info. Very detailed.
Thanks, Jack. 😎
Very nice
Subscribed.
Greenting from Portugal
Nice looking ride. Did the MOCO eliminate the rear LED on the fender or did you customize it.
Thanks! Must be the new style because she is bone stock.
once again making me want a new bike...
Nice bike thanks
Love your ride buddy. I've been checking out all the videos I can on the new engine and I gotta say I'm really loving what I'm seeing. I have one question that no one has discussed yet. Does it look like it will be a very involved process to change the plugs? I don't mean the primary side of course but the ones in the new position on the other side. Does it look like a guy could get in their with a sparkplug socket? It almost looks like the tank would need to be lifted to access them. Figured a guy who has one would be able to give us the heads up on this.
Well, since I am an English teacher and have no talent for gear-head things, I could not tell you, especially since I just bought this one three or so days ago. However, I do not think it would be too difficult to get at them because the air cleaner cover will come off without a whole lot of fuss. After that, I think getting to the plugs would be a cinch.
Thank you anyway for responding. I guess its because I've been riding since the days when Harleys were pretty horrible pieces of machinery and if you rode one you had to know how to fix them. I forget that isn't always the case now since the bikes have gotten more reliable. And please don't take that as a slur against you because its not meant to be. I respect anyone who owns a bike and actually rides it like you obviously do. I know so many that talk a good ride but barely leave their garage. I'm sure someone will eventually comment on the 4 plug system, good or bad. Enjoy your new bike. it's a beauty. I stumbled upon your vlog just today and I've enjoyed it. I'll be watching for more posts
Thanks, Daniel. No offense taken. I own the fact that I cannot wrench. It ain't for lack of trying. I've killed two mowers and ripped a head bolt out of my Road King Classic. I just have no knack for it. Now, house stuff? I have no problem. I can do everything in the house, from flooring to molding to electrical and even plumbing. If I break something, it won't necessarily kill me like messing with a bike very well might. Thanks for the kind words. I do try to ride whenever possible. My favorite time is in colder weather, with there being no bottom limit I have felt yet. It only gets down to about 9 degrees here, so I can't encounter the cold I grew up on back in Boston. But I do not ride on ice! Gotta draw the line somewhere, eh?
Thanks again and ride safe!
Cute bike bro. Enjoy
Julio Smith Thanks, Julio! 😊
How hard is it to remove the trunk on this bike and can you to make it a bagger? Can you get the 114cc engine on this bike? Beautiful bike and great review!
The TourPak is hard to remove, but you can buy a quick-disconnect kit from Harley. Make it a bagger? What do you mean? Leather saddle bags?
The only bikes running the 114 are the CVOs, but you can do a Stage 3 or 4 upgrade and get the 114. Thanks for the great comment!
Maikeli7, thanks for the info. I was referring to just having the saddlebags and no trunk when I said bagger, sorry for the confusion. I will look up the quick disconnect. for the trunk.
Very informative , you should be a Salesman for HD , you know more about the bike than they do.
Hahaha! Thanks! That ain't sayin' much for the sales staff!
Great job thank you
Thanks. Much appreciated!
Sharp bike! Ride safe!
DubbsRider Thanks, DR! Stay safe out there!
She was a sharp bike
Fedex Guy She was!
Loved her well, but times change, and so did I.
Awesome! I think you covered just about everything except performance such as acceleration rate and braking etc.
I've stopped by my local Sacramento HD dealership a few weeks ago and they wanted $41,500 for the same bike. Did you get a better deal than that?
Yikes! I got mine for 26,900.
Thanks. I could have added a few more things, but I got most of it.
Nice bike!
Thanks! I'm definitely a happy guy!
Did u test drive road glide ultra
No, I'm not at all interested in the Road Glide. Not a fan. But that's just me!
Lovely bike sounds great .
Mark Kyle Thanks, Mark!
good job bro
Ziad Al shahrani Thank you. Much appreciated! 😊
Very nice! G9 is jealous. :-)
Sorry, G9!
I traded my 13 for the mystery red / velocity red . I agree this is the greatest Harley ever built . the power is awesome .
Congratulations! You know what I'm talking about! :-D
Good video.
Thanks, Claud! 😎
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 sorry! ClaudE! 😣
I am upset with how low your miles are once I get mine I am riding till the full tank harley gives is switched out with new gas !!!
Congrats on the new bike, how much horsepower?
Thanks! No idea on hp. All I know is 111 fpt.
According to the EPA release, the new 107 produces 92.53 horsepower (69kw) @ 5020 rpm, and the 114 produces 100.57 horsepower (75kw) @ 5020 rpm for the 114.
Thanks, Daniel! I will post this info in the video description. :-)
go to Fuelmoto.com, they have one they have been modifying. They have a dyno sheet area that has a lot of info.
GREAT post, thank you. I'm new to Harley, I'm an old car dog now learning and running a Harley store. This was a GREAT walk around, if you ever need a job PLEASE PM me. :)
Hahaha! Thanks, Kevin! You know, I have often thought about working in some capacity for the Motor Company. Heck, I've probably sold at least ten Harleys for them over the years! Best wishes on your new business venture! If you ever need a review of something about the Ultra Limited, let me know!
Awesome bike! Now just have to get rid of those hand grips!
Paul Lipford I don't think I can do an inexpensive switch since they are heated, can I??? I need to look into that!
Paul Lipford. the best way is to use Ryan Urlachers video. You can definitely do it yourself. it's not bad at all.
The Milwaukee 8 engines include the 107, but I understand that there's supposed to be the 114 as well. Have you heard of it? My own bike is the '06 HD Ultra Classic Peace Officer Edition with the Stage 1 upgrade (racing cams, supertuner), and came with the Vance & Hines Super Oval exhaust pipes. But I'd trade for a red Ultra Low with liquid cooling, and the 107 engine if the payment was right.
Yes, the larger engine only comes on the cvo.
Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 Pity that. I saw a 2016 Ultra CVO on the dealer's floor for $42,735. A bit much for this old man.
Ooof. That is steep!
Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 Too rich for me. At $42,735, I'd be looking at a new Ford or Chevrolet pickup.
Haha! And you'd be better served as well!
That bike is such a beast , engine aside ..
She surely is! I'm amazed that something so heavy can feel so light and nimble, but at the same time be so planted.
+Maikeli7: Motovlogger Since 2007 I never got a chance to ride ur model with the old motor, I did take out n vlog the RGU 2 up, it was just to top heavy, but seemed like an awesome cross country bike ..
I was going to trade my Deuce in for one of these but changed my mind after a test ride. The heat off the engine was unbearable. I really wanted it but the engine heat was Hell!
None of the Limited's had the tool kit at my dealership either. I think they are taking them out and selling them in parts or employees rob them. Never had one in any of the bikes I buy.
Hmmm. Guess I got lucky last time. I imagine I could call my dealer and ask for it. I still owe them the spare key to my old Ultra.
Excellent point on the side bag inside latches, may not be a positive change. You know some people are pissed off right now, how you like to be the person that just recently (before the M8 engine announcement) just bought a 2016 touring bike with the 103 engine, just gave HD 20K + $$$ , then you find out about the M8 bikes.....I would really be pissed off !!!
True, but a smart shopper concerned about that could wait till August before deciding to buy.
awesome
Thanks! 😎
Just bought a one