Ahoy, great video again. Last Amazon bargain days I bought an IProda N97 PC with 16G/512G for $129. IProda is well known in Asia but not so much in the west. I was holding out for an N97 or faster. I watched an N300 PC. It is cheap at $183 but it was only 8G soldered on. So I'm well sarisfied with this N97 system, very quiet and stays cool and ia snappier than my N5105s. The last I looked it was back at its $233 price but look for it on sale days at Amazon. Cheers, daveyb
Chatreey's N100's is the kingmaker pick. Replaceable/upgradeable storage and ram, single cable operation with a usb display, or how I use it into a usb dock that it takes turns with with my steam deck. That way it's almost a kvm because the ports on the dock are connected to whichever I plug in.
I have and use an N100 as a libreelec media player. One I chose is slightly noisy fan wise. Keeping an eye out for a fan less option that is priced right
Interesting to learn the N97 outperforms all N100's. Can you hazard a guess as to the fps for FarCry 5 on Peladn W04 in dual ram mode? It's the game I refuse to stop playing every day for past two plus years. I might hit 3000 hours one day. I would think it would be similar to the GTA5 you test on.
The N97 is better than a N100 but it's not going to perform better than a GTX 970. Both machines still use intel UHD graphics and single channel RAM. You're likely looking at very small improvements to no improvement depending on the game's settings. Far cry 5 system requirements recommend a GTX 970 or R9 290X which is around the performance of an 890M iGPU like in a SER9 or about half that of mini pc like the Minisforum HX99G's 6600M GPU or a 790S7 RTX 4060 GPU. By turning down the settings, lower spec computers can be used but it is important to keep in mind the N100 and N97 are meant for essential computing. Not gaming. You will need to rely on cloud gaming services with a N97 to get the best gaming performance from the machine.
The "minimum" requirements specify an AMD Radeon R9 270 (2 GB) or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2 GB). The R9 270 has a 3Dmark DX11 graphics score of around 6000, while the WO4 in dual channel mode is around 4000. In other words, it's still far off the minimum requirements and would likely run poorly.
As a rule, Intel on board graphics are as good as amd stuff nearly half the price, so Far Cry 5 wouldn't fly. The N100/N97 can however, decode a stream of AV1, you could home network stream to it very well and with a really clear image.
This is why I don't buy the best Chinese models. I limit my spend to $500. It seems like Chinese manufacturers find a viable unit to produce, set up the production line and make a certain number of them and then are gone. They make minimal effort to maintain support for their invention which makes them all disposable devices. No repair system, no support number to call, and in a year, no sign of them ever being in business.
@PlayingItWrong you get what you pay for. $120 can't pay for a plumber to disconnect and reconnect a sink but apparently it can afford a mini super computer and massive technical support team /s
@Somatom_Man 1. Computer racism is silly. 2. Tech changes so fast that small batch production is often the only viable manufacturing method. If AMD and intel decides to change the processor or even just the name every year with refreshes, then smaller brands are going to use the newer model. It's a pain even just finding car manufacturers making a brand new 2022 or 2023 model in 2024. Idk why we expect different with computers. 3. $500 is a very good budget for most people. It's a one sided argument to assume the buyer is always right. There are a lot of situations where a buyer can have unrealistic expectations, communication skills of sandpaper, or simply buy from brands without a website and complain later why there is no website. There are good and bad brands out there but they do not represent everyone. It is one of those weird quirks of a market that tries to make products a wide range of buyers and there will be a wide range of results. There really isn't a solution other than helping people understand that they cannot take the shotgun approach to buying products in a diverse product market. If people can even just understand basic things like don't buy from sites with 0-7 day return policies and to buy a machine that has the performance needed for their task, everyone could avoid an enormous amount of drama.
You can find similar to the 1st in this video with better specs and cheaper on Aliexpress during big sales especially their anniversary and holidays - it will have the N100, 16gb ddr5 (5 not 4), 512gb storage. This configuration was ~100$usd during last anniversary sale. There is a slightly stronger one with the N97 chip which has higher clock and also offer stronger gpu performances, might cost ~120$usd on sale.
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Hey Rob -- I think a ZILLION years ago I asked you why some company didn't consider a magnetic top to open a Mini and HERE it FINALLY is!
Good video GDI Commander!
Ahoy, great video again. Last Amazon bargain days I bought an IProda N97 PC with 16G/512G for $129. IProda is well known in Asia but not so much in the west. I was holding out for an N97 or faster. I watched an N300 PC. It is cheap at $183 but it was only 8G soldered on. So I'm well sarisfied with this N97 system, very quiet and stays cool and ia snappier than my N5105s. The last I looked it was back at its $233 price but look for it on sale days at Amazon. Cheers, daveyb
RIP the Ser5 5560, picked it up when it was on special and it's still my 2nd/backup machine and going strong. One of the best buys I've ever done.
Thanks for the reviews. I've got the GMKtec N100 (with upgraded RAM and storage) based on your review and it's still going strong.
Chatreey's N100's is the kingmaker pick. Replaceable/upgradeable storage and ram, single cable operation with a usb display, or how I use it into a usb dock that it takes turns with with my steam deck. That way it's almost a kvm because the ports on the dock are connected to whichever I plug in.
I bought my black view mini PC based on your recommendation.... Love it. Exactly what I needed.
Thank you Robtech, yeah this the prices we only spend on computer for the last 20 years of tech business history as a entry-level buyer
i'm waiting for that $300+ top list where it seems you get the best performance.
I have and use an N100 as a libreelec media player. One I chose is slightly noisy fan wise. Keeping an eye out for a fan less option that is priced right
I've got the Neosmay AC8-V2 review coming soon.
Interesting to learn the N97 outperforms all N100's. Can you hazard a guess as to the fps for FarCry 5 on Peladn W04 in dual ram mode? It's the game I refuse to stop playing every day for past two plus years. I might hit 3000 hours one day. I would think it would be similar to the GTA5 you test on.
The N97 is better than a N100 but it's not going to perform better than a GTX 970. Both machines still use intel UHD graphics and single channel RAM. You're likely looking at very small improvements to no improvement depending on the game's settings. Far cry 5 system requirements recommend a GTX 970 or R9 290X which is around the performance of an 890M iGPU like in a SER9 or about half that of mini pc like the Minisforum HX99G's 6600M GPU or a 790S7 RTX 4060 GPU. By turning down the settings, lower spec computers can be used but it is important to keep in mind the N100 and N97 are meant for essential computing. Not gaming. You will need to rely on cloud gaming services with a N97 to get the best gaming performance from the machine.
The "minimum" requirements specify an AMD Radeon R9 270 (2 GB) or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2 GB). The R9 270 has a 3Dmark DX11 graphics score of around 6000, while the WO4 in dual channel mode is around 4000. In other words, it's still far off the minimum requirements and would likely run poorly.
As a rule, Intel on board graphics are as good as amd stuff nearly half the price, so Far Cry 5 wouldn't fly. The N100/N97 can however, decode a stream of AV1, you could home network stream to it very well and with a really clear image.
@@PlayingItWrong Sounds like a good idea. Going to test that on a HP G3 Min when I get home later.
@@CEG3RDtry and ensure only one leg of the signal is WiFi.(so pc to router wired, router to mini pc wireless for example).
Bought the mp80 last 11 11 sale. Hope it lasts
What's this about two 8 Gb ram modules being faster than a single 16 Gb unit? I was not aware of this. Why?
www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/what-is-dual-channel-memory
This is why I don't buy the best Chinese models. I limit my spend to $500. It seems like Chinese manufacturers find a viable unit to produce, set up the production line and make a certain number of them and then are gone. They make minimal effort to maintain support for their invention which makes them all disposable devices. No repair system, no support number to call, and in a year, no sign of them ever being in business.
Churn and burn business.
No different to Intel now they've dumped the NUCs to Asus.
I limit myself to $120 😂
@PlayingItWrong you get what you pay for. $120 can't pay for a plumber to disconnect and reconnect a sink but apparently it can afford a mini super computer and massive technical support team /s
@Somatom_Man
1. Computer racism is silly.
2. Tech changes so fast that small batch production is often the only viable manufacturing method. If AMD and intel decides to change the processor or even just the name every year with refreshes, then smaller brands are going to use the newer model. It's a pain even just finding car manufacturers making a brand new 2022 or 2023 model in 2024. Idk why we expect different with computers.
3. $500 is a very good budget for most people. It's a one sided argument to assume the buyer is always right. There are a lot of situations where a buyer can have unrealistic expectations, communication skills of sandpaper, or simply buy from brands without a website and complain later why there is no website. There are good and bad brands out there but they do not represent everyone. It is one of those weird quirks of a market that tries to make products a wide range of buyers and there will be a wide range of results.
There really isn't a solution other than helping people understand that they cannot take the shotgun approach to buying products in a diverse product market. If people can even just understand basic things like don't buy from sites with 0-7 day return policies and to buy a machine that has the performance needed for their task, everyone could avoid an enormous amount of drama.
You can find similar to the 1st in this video with better specs and cheaper on Aliexpress during big sales especially their anniversary and holidays - it will have the N100, 16gb ddr5 (5 not 4), 512gb storage. This configuration was ~100$usd during last anniversary sale. There is a slightly stronger one with the N97 chip which has higher clock and also offer stronger gpu performances, might cost ~120$usd on sale.