History of the Uralic languages

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  • The Uralic languages sometimes called Uralian languages form a language family of 38 languages spoken natively by approximately 25 million people, predominantly in Europe (over 99% of the family's speakers) and northern Asia (less than 1%). The Uralic languages with the most native speakers are Hungarian (which alone accounts for nearly 60% of speakers), Finnish, and Estonian. Other significant languages with fewer speakers are Erzya, Moksha, Mari, Udmurt, Northern Sámi, Komi, and Karelian, all of which are spoken in northern regions of Scandinavia and the Russian Federation.
    The name "Uralic" derives from the family's purported "original homeland" (Urheimat) hypothesized to have been somewhere in the vicinity of the Ural Mountains.
    Finno-Ugric is sometimes used as a synonym for Uralic, though Finno-Ugric is widely understood to exclude the Samoyedic languages. Scholars who do not accept the traditional notion that Samoyedic split first from the rest of the Uralic family may treat the terms as synonymous.

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  • @iroquoianmapper
    @iroquoianmapper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hi evryone.
    I'm going to make a video about Turkic languages, but my color palette doesn't have enough colors to show the diversity of this language family. So I want to ask you: What is the best way to do it? Should I release a video about each branch (for example, Kipchak, Oghur, Karluk, etc.) or make one video but the classification will not be branched?
    Write in the comments.
    Enjoy the video!

    • @L0KUST1
      @L0KUST1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What software are you using to make these videos? If it is something like MS Paint, you can make custom colors. If you have a limited amount of colors, focus on showing the different branches, and possibly label individual regions with just text to show the language.

    • @Sacra_Rana
      @Sacra_Rana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If 2 languages family are separated on the map (one on the west and one on the east separated by one in the middle), I think you can use the same color as long as there are names

    • @adszadam3818
      @adszadam3818 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Türkler çok büyük topraklarda dağınık olarak yaşamışlar kimi ağızları bir birini iyi anlarken kimi ağızları artık ayrı bir dil haline gelmiştir.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why not put small little number tags over areas and have the legend on the side say which language it is. as a deuteronopic colorblind person, it can help.

  • @Sacra_Rana
    @Sacra_Rana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    That's really funny to see some people spoke Hungarian 1000's killometers away from Hungary up until 14th century

    • @mysteriousDSF
      @mysteriousDSF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      A Hungarian monk known historically as Brother Julianus ventured far back east and met the old Hungarians and could communicate with them. This happened exactly before the Mongol invasion. The Mongols wiped out the remaining "old Hungarians".

    • @Sacra_Rana
      @Sacra_Rana 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mysteriousDSF This is very interesting!

    • @salsaproductions5859
      @salsaproductions5859 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mysteriousDSFand these Hungarians probably got assimilated into the Bashkirs people, as their DNA matches with the Hungarians

    • @jout738
      @jout738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mysteriousDSF
      Thats sad. How did the mongols wipe out the old hungarians, but not the other urgic people living in there.

    • @mysteriousDSF
      @mysteriousDSF 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jout738 they weren't "in the way" as much. The Hungarians were the most southerly ones out of the Ugric people's.

  • @midoabolila9532
    @midoabolila9532 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    One of the weirdest language families overall

    • @mysteriousDSF
      @mysteriousDSF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And I'm the proudest chap ever being a Uralic.

  • @saturahman7510
    @saturahman7510 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks ! ❤ I live in Mikkeli, eastern-Finland.

  • @mysteriousDSF
    @mysteriousDSF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The origins of Ugric languages is more likely to be wedged precisely in-between Finnic and Samoyedic rather than being closer to Finnic. Also Sámi languages show some similarities exclusively with Samoyedic languages making a northern migration pattern separate from Finnic general plausible.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for your comment!

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      some may have sailed across the barents sea

    • @svetlanaphilipp4868
      @svetlanaphilipp4868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Я -- коми. Хорошо говорю на своём языке. Сравнивала свой язык с другими финно-угорскими языками (по, имеющимся в интернетном пространстве, словарям). Коми по бо́льшей части похож на удмуртский (само собой, и на коми-пермяцкий, практически -- это тот же коми, только диалект другой).
      Так вот... сравнивала коми с другими языками всей уральской языковой семьи. И что я обнаружила? -- По количеству схожих по звучанию и написанию слов коми ближе к саамскому. Их много, скажее вы, -- саамских языков. Не знаю -- какой именно из языков саами был представлен в этом словаре, но, наверное, один из основных, имеющихся на территории России. А их -- несколько.
      Я пришла к такому выводу: саами -- скорее всего, выходцы из наших краёв, а, может, и -- с более восточных территорий, но шло переселение и через нашу территорию. Это моё только предположение. Переселение шло веками и, возможно, шли эти люди по северу, со стадами оленей, в поисках более обильной пищи для оленьих стад...Поэтому и имеется большое количество похожих слов. (?)
      Но наши языки, наши народы давным-давно друг от друга отделились и отдалились... Даже немного грустно от этого... времена делают своё дело.
      С историей не поспоришь. Претензии не к чему и не к кому предъявлять. ТАК сложилось... Данность бытия. Оттого и странная наша судьба.
      Люблю всех!

  • @knockoutnorko7500
    @knockoutnorko7500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brilliant stuff, love yer videos mate 🧡

  • @Nastya_07
    @Nastya_07 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great, but I feel like the original extent of Volga Finnic (extending to Komi and Nenets), the southern half of the original Sami extent (extending though most of Northern Finland) and the extent of Karelian in the middle ages are kinda inaccurate.
    Also, Sayan Samoyedic wasn't a single language, it was Mator (divergent) and Kamassian (closely related to Selkup, their common ancestor is named Kamas-Selkup)

  • @flavi9692
    @flavi9692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can't wait for the video about Turkic Languages❤
    ❤❤❤❤❤
    Hope you won't forget about the tatars and Turks in dobruja

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you split finish and voitc than you definetly need to split northern estonian and southern estonian.

  • @Tangerine9407
    @Tangerine9407 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cool video!

  • @RONNIE_FNAF
    @RONNIE_FNAF 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Before slavic,all of russia(Except kalinigard) is inhabited by uralic,caucasian,altaic and others,is right?

    • @tearet741
      @tearet741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No

    • @tearet741
      @tearet741 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Western part by uralic , and balto finnic people .Steppe part by scythians and later turkic people

    • @RONNIE_FNAF
      @RONNIE_FNAF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tearet741 thank you for information

    • @RONNIE_FNAF
      @RONNIE_FNAF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tearet741 why your profile is atheists!?

  • @salsaproductions5859
    @salsaproductions5859 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Makes me want to wonder why the Hungarians decide to migrate away….

  • @javindhillon6294
    @javindhillon6294 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Absolute bangers in the background? Ultra-informative? cool looking? 3 thumbs up!

  • @ezekielhoffman7345
    @ezekielhoffman7345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing work as usual, and the music is just the best) i am very interested about the hungarians that stayed in siberia until the 1300. How much do we know about this? was it still properly hungarian? or did it diverge perhaps?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

    • @salsaproductions5859
      @salsaproductions5859 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Look up frair Julian he was an Hungarian monk who in the 1200s found the Magyars who stayed behind and was able to communicate with them, he later returned only to find them wiped out by the mongols

  • @svetlanaphilipp4868
    @svetlanaphilipp4868 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Спасибо! Очень интересно! Я -- коми.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Привет из Нижневартовска!

  • @drendisak_
    @drendisak_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hm, I am not sure where did you get info but i think Sámi languages weren’t spread to the South this much, also in the dissapearing area of Balto-Finnic there was Vepsian spoken already, but not sure

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The area you are talking about to was inhabited by Chud Zavolochskaya, which is mentioned in Russian chronicles. This tribe may have spoken some kind of Balto-Finnish language, but which one is unknown.

  • @blu9700
    @blu9700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After you do the Turkic video, please do Sino-Tibetan!

  • @2Odissey
    @2Odissey หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not sure, but most likely the Moksha and Erzya languages are not shown correctly. Historically, the Erzya lived in the northwest of Moksha (Nizhny Novgorod - it used to be the capital of Erzya Obran Osh).

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the information! I still think that before the Slavs, the Murom tribe lived in the territory of Nizhny Novgorod.

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a question please what was the first culture of the ural people?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Unfortunately, I don't know yet.

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a question please are the uralic people from mongolic or caucasian race?

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you answer

  • @fennec4
    @fennec4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm a Nenets

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hi, and I'm a Russian from the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous region.

    • @fennec4
      @fennec4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@iroquoianmapper а ты в каком городе живешь?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fennec4 Нижневартовск.А ты в каком городе? А ты разговариваешь на ненецком?

    • @The_Geographer_Maps
      @The_Geographer_Maps 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@iroquoianmapper Ого, Я тоже Русский из Буджака! Привет земляк!

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@The_Geographer_Maps Привет! Русские везде.

  • @kenanhasan9784
    @kenanhasan9784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    👍👍👍

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a question please where is the origin of the proto uralic prople in europe or in asia?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ancestral home of the Uralic languages ​​is a very complex question. Some say that they originated from the Kama River basin, others say that from Southern Siberia, but I think that these are the Ural Mountains, the border between Europe and Asia.

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iroquoianmapper but what is the sure answer

  • @eliaass6598
    @eliaass6598 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's so sad these languages are dying

    • @saturahman7510
      @saturahman7510 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Respect . We must respect them. Greetings from Finland ❤

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question please is this the origin of the proto uralic peoples?

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is not known for sure, but it is probably true.

  • @Omar24737
    @Omar24737 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is this the homeland of the proto uralic people? ‏‪0:18‬‏ ‏‪

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes.

    • @Omar24737
      @Omar24737 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iroquoianmapper so they originated in europe not in asia right?

  • @DanielKolbin
    @DanielKolbin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    interesting

  • @Anton_Danylchenko
    @Anton_Danylchenko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On which facts the rapid change of western border from 950 to 1200 is based?
    You possibly made an assumption that since those lands became part of Rus' they quickly switched to Slavic in couple of centuries.
    But this is simply not true. Slavs lived only in cities on those territories by 1200, while entire rural area spoke Finno-Ugric languages and continued speaking for centuries ahead. Even in XVII century there were enough Finno-Ugric speakers to the west of Volga (and I talk not about Mordva) and you just removed them all by 1200 pretending that Muscovy emerged on already Slavicised lands and this is not true.

    • @iroquoianmapper
      @iroquoianmapper  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for your comment! I took the information for the video from Wikipedia, where the following is written about the tribes of Murom and Merara: "This is in stark contrast to the related tribes of Merya and Murom, which were apparently assimilated by the Eastern Slavs by the 10th and 11th centuries."
      "The Muromites paid tribute to the Russian princes and, like the neighboring Merya tribe, were assimilated by the Eastern Slavs in the 11th-12th centuries, when their territory was incorporated into Russia."
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Finns

  • @Uralic469
    @Uralic469 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    uralic w