Go to the convention, use the credit care like wild, buy lots Larry Bird stuff and when the bill comes in, say you lost that card. "Why the f*** would I vacation in French Lick, Indiana?" is the most believable lie ever.
@@NoFate247 I’ve got BOS Manticore rack on pre-order…loving their value play but not surprised they’ve found themselves walking a fine line with the innovators…If it weren’t for prohibitively expensive cross border shipping to Canada, I’d be willing to consider Rogue’s premium, but BOS has become the best option north of the border…I’m really rooting for an amicable outcome that doesn’t injure BOS’s wonderful little business.
I drove out to rep fitness yesterday(. Carlisle pennsylvania) to get a couple of things. Looking at their benches online or TH-cam Doesn't do them, Justice. to look at them up close and personal. They are fantastic pieces of equipment. My house is 45 minutes away from rep. Fitness and forty-five minutes away from york Barbell. I love going to both.
@NoFate247 the fb 5000 and the ab 5100 are prettysweet. . At home, I have the York fts flat bench. So I bought the fb 3000 bench pad and installed it on my York bench. When I get over 350 on the bench, I prefer the 12" pad. Yorks pads are too narrow.
Killing it might be a bit strong, I'm just too dumb to give up :) I know the OCR community has taken a few lumps the past 4 years, but your content is still FIRE! We need to see you do more road races or maybe tour some OCR gyms/rock climbing gyms
Well no one is perfect and I'm hoping the good they do in the community will give t hem some leway for this mishap. What you think about that lawsuiit?
I haven't given up but it isn't looking good. I offered a few companies to drive to their plant and show room and do a video tour of their show room.....but I am small potatoes compared to tnt big channels. What Chicago should I make next
Fun fact: Bells of Steel brought me to your page. I was looking at their coated Oly bars and a video of this guy showed up. He kept calling it Sarah-cot coating. Thought lets go to this goofballs page and see why he don't be speaking right. Couple years later, still here and supporting your Sarah-cot vids.
Huge amount of topics covered. Putting in some hard yards researching. Good stuff. We have had Rep stocked in Australia for 9 months or so. Crossing everything we get access to the clear coat options.
@@NoFate247 yeah super competitive. I think the others have had it far too good for far too long in terms of supply vs demand. Rep slays them in terms of quality.
I was going to get Reps new set up for my dumbbells, but it was just cheaper to buy 2 of their own dumbbell stands. Plus I could them in red unlike their new stuff
Yeah the new stuff isn't cheap but obviously 4 tiers and higher quality. But if the old style works and comes in your color then that's all that matters
I went with clear coat on the cross members of my Rep rack due to you praising it. (despite the extra cost) and honestly they look cool as hell. dunno about the bench, but if you're on the fence, it really is a cool look.
Enjoyed the Saturday Review. Thanks Jonathan. I got a ladder, so I'm half-way there. Also, I think I'd buy that fake Rep mug you had a pic of. Something about a weight trainer's mug that actually looks like a weight trainer's mug. Might be something there for a small company to do - use actual weight training parts to make a mug. Maybe weight trainers would get a kick out of that.
I just want a fun weight training mug ... under say, about $70. For the handle, a company could chop up blemished barbells, and you get whatever part of the barbell, you'd never know till it arrived. It'd seem that'd be kinda of cool to do.
@@NoFate247 working on that rather than new equipment lol, crazy they haven't come up with a decent answer to rep ares/athena as they are presumably bleeding sales as a result.
Glad someone caught the one and only joke I dropped! Thansk for watching with a keen ear. Is the thicnkess a deal breaker for you with these bumper plates?
@@NoFate247Nah, I use iron plates, but I wouldn't care about the thickness if I used bumpers. I would probably go for the Fringe Sport savage plates instead if I had to use bumpers though. They're just so pretty.
I have a Rep 5000 clear coat. I have FB rep benches. There is no need to upgrade to clear coat. BTW can you find out what gives with Hansu ? I am waiting for them to make some of their older style calibrated plates. It has been months since they have been available. Thanks, John
Hansu has never returned my messages but I will try again. I love clear coat but it's definitely all asthetics and not a performance improvement. Thanks for watching
Yeah pretty sure Rogue Sued Rep too over there mobilift attachments that’s why you don’t see those out there anymore either. So the military bomber design one should be pretty rare.
Yeah those definitely aren't around anymore. Heard rogue sent cease and desist to hero barbell for having barbells with that rubber band insert on the collar 🤷♂️
The lawsuit leaves the door open, cause they mention an issue of copying in general, siting a few cases (even installation instructions). So I'm sure Rogue could add onto the suit or file another suit for thier hydra/mantara if they wanted to spend the money. You think rogue will win?
Thank you, I don't understand the Stanley cups and those heavy mugs nonsense Unless it makes my drinks suddenly taste better, why would I spend a bunch of money on it?
@@NoFate247 True, but novelty has never been a draw for me, if it doesn't improve the quality of my life, get me laid more, or increase my money, I'm not interested 😄
Even though I do have Rogue stuff, I have always kinda viewed them as the evil empire. People have been making racks and plates forever, (long before Rogue showed up) and there isn't really that of a much variation you can do to those. I could see if it were a unique piece of equipment like a bench or Pritchett Pad, sure! Then, they have a good case. They may however have a good case on the copyright to their assembly instructions
Rogue vs Bell's, maybe they can just fight it out at HomeGymCon like men. I'd pay to see that. I'm sorry to hear you won't make it out there to see it.
Yes please! I’ve been looking between this and the fray fitness savage series power rack functional trainer. Biggest advantage to the fray fitness is the 1:1 pull with 250lb stacks on each side. Currently $2k before shipping on sale
Did the FB-5000 get a price reduction? I don’t see much of a price drop. Like a dummy i sold my FB-5000 with wide pad for a Blackwing. Although I like the Blackwing i want another FB-5000
@@NoFate247 ahh I see. I bought the Red Blackwing with 10% discount off during holidays to match my red PR-5000 rack. I sold my flat black FB-5000 with wide pad to a family member for $100. Now I want a red one lol the FB-5000 is just way better for flat bench for obvious reasons.
The clear coat looks awesome, I’m a Raiders fan so it fits the look. But I passed on clear coat because I had fears of it rusting faster and it being more expensive.
I can't imagine anything being rust resistant except galvanized and stainless. Apparently REP used to have stainless uprights. My powder coating flakes off on my PR400 at all the attachment points. Customer service sent me a vile of nail polish (touch up paint) and a $25 credit. Clear coat is probably less noticeable if the coating rubs off.
@@NoFate247 The thought of redoing/rebuilding my rack is not something I'd really like to do on my dual athena with lat pulldown/lowrow. The rust is noticeable close up. It appears like spider vein cracks starting from the peg holes, numbers, and lettering on my pr5000. Looks like the rust is originating from the inside of the cutouts. I'll reach out to customer service and see if they can offer any suggestions.
@NoFate247 definitely don't know the reason why they don't carry that color for any of their equipments. Happy Titan and Rogue at least have that option on some of their racks
Why would I stop if I already unsubbed? Usually when real people don't like content they just unsub but don't go telling others about it for attention. Link me your videos so I can see how you want the editing done.
Did you know about the Rogue fitness / Bells of Steel lawsuit?
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Go to the convention, use the credit care like wild, buy lots Larry Bird stuff and when the bill comes in, say you lost that card. "Why the f*** would I vacation in French Lick, Indiana?" is the most believable lie ever.
Honestly, that's the best stradegy yet!!! Going to dig into this one a bit more cause it may just work
@@NoFate247 I'm sure it has been done. When I see fraud stories on the news, I always wonder how much less interest rates would be in an honest world.
Home gym weekly news is something I never knew I needed, but I love it!
What's your favorite segment so far?
So great, Nate. You really have served out your own niche in this hotly contested space…keep it up!
Thanks for watching and being here. What is your thoughts on the bells of steel drama
@@NoFate247 I’ve got BOS Manticore rack on pre-order…loving their value play but not surprised they’ve found themselves walking a fine line with the innovators…If it weren’t for prohibitively expensive cross border shipping to Canada, I’d be willing to consider Rogue’s premium, but BOS has become the best option north of the border…I’m really rooting for an amicable outcome that doesn’t injure BOS’s wonderful little business.
Yeah if you're in Canada how do you not go with BOS? What attachments you get with the manticore?
@@NoFate247 Seal row, dip, multi grip pull up bar, roller j cups, sandwich J cups, landmine. 84” uprights FTW.
I drove out to rep fitness yesterday(. Carlisle pennsylvania) to get a couple of things. Looking at their benches online or TH-cam Doesn't do them, Justice. to look at them up close and personal. They are fantastic pieces of equipment. My house is 45 minutes away from rep. Fitness and forty-five minutes away from york Barbell. I love going to both.
Yeah definitely going to the show room is the way to go to see in person. What bench did you like the best
@NoFate247 the fb 5000 and the ab 5100 are prettysweet. . At home, I have the York fts flat bench. So I bought the fb 3000 bench pad and installed it on my York bench. When I get over 350 on the bench, I prefer the 12" pad. Yorks pads are too narrow.
Killing it, my friend, you are KILLING IT!👊👊
Killing it might be a bit strong, I'm just too dumb to give up :) I know the OCR community has taken a few lumps the past 4 years, but your content is still FIRE! We need to see you do more road races or maybe tour some OCR gyms/rock climbing gyms
Great recap man! Lots of interesting stuff. I still like Bells quite a bit, but yea that is probably one they will want a do over on.
Well no one is perfect and I'm hoping the good they do in the community will give t hem some leway for this mishap. What you think about that lawsuiit?
@@NoFate247 Ehh I am torn. Do not feel strongly enough to take one side or the other
Great update! We need to find a way to get you to the convention......
I haven't given up but it isn't looking good. I offered a few companies to drive to their plant and show room and do a video tour of their show room.....but I am small potatoes compared to tnt big channels. What Chicago should I make next
Agreed
Fun fact: Bells of Steel brought me to your page. I was looking at their coated Oly bars and a video of this guy showed up. He kept calling it Sarah-cot coating. Thought lets go to this goofballs page and see why he don't be speaking right. Couple years later, still here and supporting your Sarah-cot vids.
When I finally corrected how I said cerakote, people were made cause they couldn't make fun of me anymore. You should hear me say occam's razor
Huge amount of topics covered. Putting in some hard yards researching. Good stuff. We have had Rep stocked in Australia for 9 months or so. Crossing everything we get access to the clear coat options.
I guess it'll just be a matter of time. How is the rep cost compared to other stuff in Australia
@@NoFate247 yeah super competitive. I think the others have had it far too good for far too long in terms of supply vs demand. Rep slays them in terms of quality.
Another awesome week in review, lots of interesting developments in the gym equipment market lately!
Yeah lots going on across the board. What's your take on the bells rogue lawsuit
@@NoFate247 In general, I am a huge fan of patent protection for IP. In this specific case, it is up to the suits to sort it all out.
I think a great video idea would be a gym tour of yours, but with an emphasis on a cost breakdown “is the juice worth the squeeze” kind of thing.
I absolutely will mention cost on some t hings, what makes sense, what was an ultimate fail
I was going to get Reps new set up for my dumbbells, but it was just cheaper to buy 2 of their own dumbbell stands. Plus I could them in red unlike their new stuff
Yeah the new stuff isn't cheap but obviously 4 tiers and higher quality. But if the old style works and comes in your color then that's all that matters
I went with clear coat on the cross members of my Rep rack due to you praising it. (despite the extra cost) and honestly they look cool as hell. dunno about the bench, but if you're on the fence, it really is a cool look.
Such an awesome look, I could easily be talked into converting my whole gym.....What's your next home gym pick up?
Enjoyed the Saturday Review. Thanks Jonathan. I got a ladder, so I'm half-way there.
Also, I think I'd buy that fake Rep mug you had a pic of. Something about a weight trainer's mug that actually looks like a weight trainer's mug. Might be something there for a small company to do - use actual weight training parts to make a mug. Maybe weight trainers would get a kick out of that.
You're more than half way there, bad decisions come naturally to most :) What do you think of Rogue's lawsuit?
I mean what's the patent on a deep dish plate, unless it's the manufacturing process itself?
re: Rogue's lawsuit. Don't care. Didn't know about it. Patents are important to protect.
re: Deep Dish plate patent. Let the lawyers & judge work it out. It's all in the wording and definitions.
I just want a fun weight training mug ... under say, about $70. For the handle, a company could chop up blemished barbells, and you get whatever part of the barbell, you'd never know till it arrived. It'd seem that'd be kinda of cool to do.
Checking in! Sweet thumbnail
Thanks for being here and all your help. You a clear coat fan?
@@NoFate247 I like the look of it but don’t want to pay that man his money
a patent for a deep dish plate? that is low rogue lol.
Yeah not sure how that works, like they just have a whole team dedicated to securing patents cause I didn't think they were easy to come by
@@NoFate247 working on that rather than new equipment lol, crazy they haven't come up with a decent answer to rep ares/athena as they are presumably bleeding sales as a result.
@9:12 🤣 That got me!
Glad someone caught the one and only joke I dropped! Thansk for watching with a keen ear. Is the thicnkess a deal breaker for you with these bumper plates?
@@NoFate247Nah, I use iron plates, but I wouldn't care about the thickness if I used bumpers. I would probably go for the Fringe Sport savage plates instead if I had to use bumpers though. They're just so pretty.
I have a Rep 5000 clear coat. I have FB rep benches. There is no need to upgrade to clear coat. BTW can you find out what gives with Hansu ? I am waiting for them to make some of their older style calibrated plates. It has been months since they have been available. Thanks, John
Hansu has never returned my messages but I will try again. I love clear coat but it's definitely all asthetics and not a performance improvement. Thanks for watching
@@NoFate247 I agree. I love my clear coat rack. I'm looking for some more 25 kg Hansu plates.
So Rogue's only new product in a long time (besides sneaker and t shirts) is a mug.
i'm starting to worry they have lost their way.
Did you forget about those amazing ROGUE CROCS?! :)
apparently @@NoFate247
Yeah pretty sure Rogue Sued Rep too over there mobilift attachments that’s why you don’t see those out there anymore either. So the military bomber design one should be pretty rare.
Yeah those definitely aren't around anymore. Heard rogue sent cease and desist to hero barbell for having barbells with that rubber band insert on the collar 🤷♂️
Thanks for the update! ✌️
Thanks for checking in
Great vid man. Love this week in the review
I will keep them coming. What do you think about the lawsuit
When you mentioned the lawsuit I was surprised to find out it was about the deep dish plates and not thier true 3x3 racks.
The lawsuit leaves the door open, cause they mention an issue of copying in general, siting a few cases (even installation instructions). So I'm sure Rogue could add onto the suit or file another suit for thier hydra/mantara if they wanted to spend the money. You think rogue will win?
@@NoFate247 I hope not, I really like the people over at Bells of Steel.
Thank you, I don't understand the Stanley cups and those heavy mugs nonsense
Unless it makes my drinks suddenly taste better, why would I spend a bunch of money on it?
Just the novelty, like a burken bag
@@NoFate247 True, but novelty has never been a draw for me, if it doesn't improve the quality of my life, get me laid more, or increase my money, I'm not interested 😄
@avinashtyagi2 great minds think alike
Even though I do have Rogue stuff, I have always kinda viewed them as the evil empire. People have been making racks and plates forever, (long before Rogue showed up) and there isn't really that of a much variation you can do to those. I could see if it were a unique piece of equipment like a bench or Pritchett Pad, sure! Then, they have a good case. They may however have a good case on the copyright to their assembly instructions
I agree that some of their case seems legitimate and some seems like piling on because "we've got better lawyers"
Rogue vs Bell's, maybe they can just fight it out at HomeGymCon like men. I'd pay to see that. I'm sorry to hear you won't make it out there to see it.
Yeah now that's an attraction! Who you excited to see at hgc
@NoFate247 Really hoping we get to show some of our stuff with you know how. So far, it looks like it's going to happen. We shall see.
@50CalFitness fingers crossed
Keep us posted on the BoS lawsuit.
I absolutely will! How you been?
Dang those fringe Savage blues look super thin next to strength co
Those blues are rep fitness but yeah those strength co are thiccc
@@NoFate247 oh
Can I just paint strip my existing bench and paint it with clear coat? 😂
You might need to grind it first 😂😂😂
Have you reviewed that getrxd rack in the background?
It's coming just assembled it and haven't used it long enough
Should that be my next equipment review?
@@NoFate247 Yes. They have a great lineup of products. Unfortunately a lot of products aren't in stock and shipping can be a deal breaker.
Yes please! I’ve been looking between this and the fray fitness savage series power rack functional trainer.
Biggest advantage to the fray fitness is the 1:1 pull with 250lb stacks on each side. Currently $2k before shipping on sale
Did the FB-5000 get a price reduction? I don’t see much of a price drop. Like a dummy i sold my FB-5000 with wide pad for a Blackwing. Although I like the Blackwing i want another FB-5000
The price reduction was for the ab5200 and black wing I believe. Saw a bunch of 5000s on fb market place
What color blackwing you get
@@NoFate247 ahh I see. I bought the Red Blackwing with 10% discount off during holidays to match my red PR-5000 rack. I sold my flat black FB-5000 with wide pad to a family member for $100. Now I want a red one lol the FB-5000 is just way better for flat bench for obvious reasons.
I don’t understand the heavy mug phenomenon either. Seems like a waste of money.
Yeah definitely just a trendy thing people will do for s's and giggles. I don't judge just not something I would use
I will never pay that much money for a USELESS heavy MUG! 😤
I wouldn't either but some people dig novelty items.....I'd rather put that money towards a bar or bench
Exactly
Bells of steel shouldnt have pulled out. bad mistake bc they already make enough money imo so no excuse.
Yeah it isn't a good look, glad they are coming back but feel a bit bad for the powerlifters who were going to compete.
The power lifter pic you chose 😂😂😂😂
😂 what's wrong with it 😎
@@NoFate247 everything lol
Unless it's Larry Birdcon, why would a convention be in French Lick
Casino, resort, space, and probably cheaper to rent the space than other area s. Where would you like to see it next year
Move it to Kansas City. It's it the middle of the country and there's tons of convention space. Plus I live there and wouldn't have to travel.
Hopefully REP’s new clearcoat benches are more rust resistant than their uprights
Oh are your uprights rusting? Did you call customer service
The clear coat looks awesome, I’m a Raiders fan so it fits the look. But I passed on clear coat because I had fears of it rusting faster and it being more expensive.
I can't imagine anything being rust resistant except galvanized and stainless. Apparently REP used to have stainless uprights. My powder coating flakes off on my PR400 at all the attachment points. Customer service sent me a vile of nail polish (touch up paint) and a $25 credit. Clear coat is probably less noticeable if the coating rubs off.
@@NoFate247 The thought of redoing/rebuilding my rack is not something I'd really like to do on my dual athena with lat pulldown/lowrow. The rust is noticeable close up. It appears like spider vein cracks starting from the peg holes, numbers, and lettering on my pr5000. Looks like the rust is originating from the inside of the cutouts. I'll reach out to customer service and see if they can offer any suggestions.
let me know @@samrmills
Let me know when an orange drop then they will get my $ REP bench
I would always welcome new colors added to their lineup
@NoFate247 definitely don't know the reason why they don't carry that color for any of their equipments. Happy Titan and Rogue at least have that option on some of their racks
Can you stop with the bells and dings and doorbell chimes, cash register noise, mario bros noise? Its so annoying. Unsubbed.
Why would I stop if I already unsubbed? Usually when real people don't like content they just unsub but don't go telling others about it for attention. Link me your videos so I can see how you want the editing done.
lol…more airwolf please
Personally I want some random cowbell
More Airwolf it is and then more cowbell! @@harrywebster6752