Happy to let you know than even in 2024 you just helped me fixed mine. Same issue with oscillation and fixed by removing the C51. Huge thanks to you Monsieur !
I watched your lengthy repairs with great interest. It was a lot of hard work and it was fun. If I have an electronic product, I watch disassembly and repair videos eagerly. It's a habit I have since I have free time after retirement. Because repair is a pleasure. It will last as long as my eyesight can handle it. In most cases, semiconductors and circuit patterns are barely understood. I replace that part, and I fix the rest myself. Your video will be helpful for my Dyson fan. thank you~
How did you learn electronics? What was your job to learn so much? Did you go to university and what did you study? Loved your explanation. Very simple and easy to understand, actually made sense without a load of waffle like some TH-camrs.
Thanks 👍A lot of stuff was just experimenting and messing about with stuff from when I was a kid. I used to apply voltages to things like capacitors (the wrong way round) and watch them go pop! When I was a little bit older I started messing about with some old PCB's that I found that were from old space invader types games and figured out how to wire them up in my bedroom, and then ended up working in amusement arcades fixing / rebuilding / converting arcade machines back in the late 80's and early 90's. Used to fix TV's for friends and family, and picked up tricks and tips from other techs. No formal training or anything, I just like to figure things out and always want to know how things work.. I've got an inquisitive mind!
@@BuyitFixit very cool thanks for the reply. I repair printers but have always pondered when looking at the circuit boards what's happening. Watching your videos has helped me massively fill in the blanks. I wish I did electronics much sooner as I'm the same as you if it breaks the first thing I do is try and work out why. Very entertaining videos 👍. It's a skill you need these days as half the stuff I buy from Lidl come with manufacturing faults 🤣.
I have a 16 inch desk fan. It has no circuit board, a single shaded pole motor with a single coil. It has 3 speeds and oscillation control. It is over 10 years old, has been subject to all the usual knocks and bumps. It is usually on over 12 hours a day in the summer. It is whisper-quiet, works perfectly and the only maintenance I've had to do is give the cage and fan blades a wash every now and again. It cost £15 at Sainsbury's. The only thing it doesn't have is a Dyson £500 price tag dangling off it!
Agree, a lot less complicated, more reliable, and cheaper too! One of the best engineered products I've worked on was the kitchen aid mixer I looked at (video on here) it's 36 years old and like brand new still inside. I serviced it all and I'm sure it will last another 36 years..
Capacitor C51 was out of order on my Dyson AM06. Now no more present on the PCB and the AM06 oscillation is now controlled by the remote. Problem is fixed. Thanks for your explanation, schematic and video. Great work
Thank you! Amazing video, very entertaining and informative. You showed us all the little details, not only the main parts. When you were deciding whether to open or not those two components that you replaced ( you already knew they need to be replaced ), I was hoping you would open them. And you did! 😊
Excellent video; just goes to show the more complicated things are the more chance of them breaking down. For such an expensive item, it's unbelievable that they would use such cheap plastic gears.
Using a triac driver ic to control the load directly is wild, tells you about the company's mindset of making crappy products. Greatings from Argentina :)
Great work fixing that, I thought they put better gears in those or at least have a way of stopping the gears from getting torn. But keep up the good work and looking forward to the next video. And congratulations on getting to 1000 subscribers 🎉
22:58 In the datasheet of the MOC3083M, I couldn't find a max current across the main terminals. The peak non-repetitive surge current in 1 A and the holding current 0.5 mA but I couldn't find the max continuous current . You say it's 100 mA, do you remember how they call it? Or if it was in a table or graph?
I'm pretty sure I saw it in the datasheet, but there might be a few different sheets from different manufacturers. It was a while back, but I do remember it saying that it shouldn't be used to drive loads directly.
this is the most comprehensive repair video of the dyson fan ever! Question: Would removing c51 capacitor solve the oscillating issue? I was thinking if its possible to add a physical switch on the wires to the oscillating motor solve the issue too? Im terrible at soldering!
Thanks Zal👍I'm not sure what you mean by R86 capacitor, as R would mean resistor C would be capacitor. You could add a switch if you desired but testing the capacitor I removed and if it's shorted, just removing it by cutting it in half or such would also work.
@@BuyitFixitsorry i meant the c51 capacitor. If that capacitor is the only one thats causing the problem, removing it wont be much of an issue! i hope my circuit board is the same as yours!
You can see why the oscillation motor got destroyed, If you look at the top left hand part of the fan body at timestamp 0:43, you can see where the body has been grinding against something while it was oscillating. Probably overloaded the gears and stripped them.
Thanks Ralph! I wasn't sure on the value of the capacitor as there's no schematic. I guess it would be a quite low capacity and voltage higher than mains voltage.
@@BuyitFixit Generally, yes, a low value. There's a ton of online info re selecting values, but you can waste the rest of your life trying to fully understand the maths.
@@BuyitFixit I think it totally depends on AC mains frequency. If it is 60Hz, there are 120 zero crossings per second. So the snubber absorb 120 stress occasions per second. That is one of the reasons that cap to fail. As a suggestion you can replace one of that 0 ohm resistor with a 10 ohm one. So it smoothen the RC time constant.
It's a triac driver as it's a driver that contains a triac, as shown in schematic in datasheet. It's also got zero crossing detect, which is a nice touch.
Yes, triac driver which does contain a small triac👍 One one of the datasheets (can't remember which manufacturer but same part number) it specifically stated that the device itself should not be used to drive a load directly and an external triac should be used.
Usted es un gran profesional. Admiro sus conocimientos en electrónica. Su video me ha gustado mucho y me ha servido para reparar un ventilador Dyson exactamente igual al de su video. Sólo me falta saber qué modelo es para comprar un mando de control remoto. ¿Sabe usted el modelo?. Felicidades y tiene un like!!!. Le envío un cordial saludo desde España.
As always . well done! Great fix! I've always had the impression that the build quality of Dyson is mediocre. A highly expensive product (to buy) but of shoddy cheap quality and materials.
Mine has an oscillation fault, but not quite the same. It doesn't permanently oscillate, but once you turn the oscillation on, you can't turn it off again. It'll also randomly start oscillating on its own while the fan isn't running. Which circuit component is the most likely cause of this?
Really nice fix Mick, just 2 observations if I may... why did you not replace the shorted cap? Was it that you just couldn't find / have a repladement one as if it was a decoupling cap it would be needed, wouldn't it? and the second observation... that Andrex "Wind Sock" made me laugh out loud when I saw it fluttering away at the end there. Absolutely apt use of the toilet roll, very spot on and very funny too, it made me chuckle quite a bit 👍😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks 😂😂😂😂 I was just thinking how can I show the audience it working. I was unsure on the cap as I think it needed to be an X rated one as it has mains supply across it. I didn't have any so I just thought I'd remove it. My thinking was it's not like you keep switching the oscillation motor on and off every few minutes. You probably just either have it on or off.
Just watched this as I am going through all your repair videos - thanks for great content. My observations are that Dyson items are overpriced, over engineered, over complicated and difficult to clean properly. Good repair though 😀
You know the sound when you first started and I kind of hear it when you are showing it at the end. Like the rubbing sound? I have that but on a higher level to the point where the motor cuts out because of the force against it. Can figure it out. Not sure if the fan is out of balance or something. Not sure.
When you are done cleaning and maintaining your fan, make sure all 4 torx bits that attaches to the fan housing are tight, not over tight but tight with a screwdriver or ratchet. If not the fan blades with rub with the fan housing causing friction and not great sounds and error codes. Also make sure the longer torx bits are tight as they also hold the fan housing in place also and I tightened them a bit at a time in a cross cross pattern to keep even distribution and balance. Hope this helped.
Hello, I'd really appreciate any guidance. I've got to the main PCB and when removed there is a burn mark on the bace from R66. checked F1 that's also gone. when would be your next more? thank you for your time and grate videos, I'm new to your channel, but have been working my way though your repairs. from Scott
Hi Scott, if you have a picture of the board (It needs to be good quality and not blurry) you can drop me an email at the channel's name at out look dot com.
From the mcu at pin 32, is that GPIO-Pin directly bound to a 10K Resistor at the base of that npn? Kinda seems quite high of a resistance for any fast straight switching, does it?
Nice ! I must ask, is there a filter or something for ebay when you look for "spares or repairs" or do you just trawl through please ? also great Fan after a long wait !....cheers.
I've got a couple of searches, 'faulty' but then I do like -iphone -switch -sensor to avoid loads of rubbish, also things like 'please read' or 'spares or repair' sometimes I just select a category and set a price and tick 'for parts and not working ' hope that helps 🙂👍
Great work. My board appears to be slightly different. I can't find R86. I tried to remove the one next to the U1, which is R35, and it's still oscillating when plugged in. Thanks in advance for your reply
It's not a resistor you should be removing it's a capacitor! Check the small capacitors around that are to see if any are shorted or have a very low reading
Hi Peter, I'm unfortunately I'm usually quite busy with my own repairs etc. I also volunteer at our local repair cafe where people in the local community can bring items in for repair and we have a look free of charge. There's probably one in your area who might be able to help.
I got a xiaomi fan that has large sound-optimized fanblades which has more airflow than these things at a much lower noise level. Oh and the build quality is really fantastic, unlike the plastic tat that is Dyson. I wish they'd up their build quality but alas, nearly all of their products have either shoddy plastic cases that break in the worst ways (cordless vacuums have the power switch in the battery, and a long flimsy plastic piece goes from the trigger to the battery switch, their hairdrier is made of extremely cheap and brittle plastic, etc) or have weird circuitry that's prone to fail, as you showed.
I sometimes consider picking up a spares / repairs Dyson Airblade for the bathroom instead of a hand towel. There's an original one on now but they're 1600W which is a lot considering they don't have a big heater
@@BuyitFixitsorry, my comments should relate closer to your video. Here goes: I have tried using the non-genuine air filters for the Dyson tower fans (the cylindrical type filters) and while good quality, they offer too much resistance to the fan. Air is drawn around the sides causing a lot of noise. A shame as they're £15 each rather than £50 for genuine. i figured they used the high volume air instead of heating it.
@@ianhelsbyservices Is there a way to determine if the replacement filters are as good as the genuine filters? Looking at filters for something like a DP01 - surely Dyson massively overprice their replacement filters, but unclear if there is a quality gap with aftermarket replacements.
I've not came across one of those yet, it just depends what broken items are for sale on eBay. I did get hold of an m18 2nd fix nailer to look at, but not done that one yet.
I'd love to have found out exactly what caused the main motor to fail. I checked TH-cam after watching this video and lots of motor fail videos but everyone just replaced them. Usually these motors are bulletproof and thats why I'm so curious to know what design fault is causing this common failure.
@@BuyitFixit That satisfies my curiousity. Thanks for the reply. Great brand Dyson. But man, when they go wrong, the ordinary handyman hasn't a hope of fixing them. :)
Sir, your motor assembly should have rubber mounts that position the assembly center in the unit. I wonder now if not having them was the cause of your motor bearings burning out. Thanks for the video!
Why was the fan melted to the housing at the beginning.... and what was the white stripe on it... as you said someone had been in already and glued that fan that which eventually melted to the housing and hence you thought it was siezed...
Hi Mate. the motor that you have in your link is no longer available. but they have one's that look similar except its 105V vs 300v? Do you know if this will make any difference? Australian models if it makes any difference. thank you.
Hi mate, you'll need the same motor as what I used. Someone else mentioned that they are no longer available which sucks as it makes these unrepairable now. I'm not sure if the manufacturer of the motors still makes them or not? Perhaps worth emailing them to enquire?
I honestly can't tell you. The unit was non working when I bought it, and the only reference I have is after changing the motor. It's not really loud or anything, but I've got nothing to compare to previously.
I'd first disassemble it and see if there is any debris clogging the motor or fan (you'd need to do this anyway to change the motor) if it's not that then the bearings in the motor could have failed which would also make it noisy. Hope that helps 👍
The original had some loctite on it and I didn't have any at the time so used what I had. The manufacturers thought it was needed so I just followed suit.
Does anyone know the right size circlip plier to buy for the circlip? (Or how to find the right size)? tried to buy a circlip plier to take apart the DP01 but found the tips are too big and don't fit in the holes of the circlip. It looks just like the circlip in the video but there's no comment as to the sizing.
@@BuyitFixit Thanks for the reply. Is there a way to find out the appropriate size required? I can open it up but I'm not sure what to measure / look for when buying a circlip plier, and the one I bought has tips that are too big. What specification(s) should I look for? inner/outer radius of the circlip, inner/outer radius of the hole?
Wondering if anyone fixed a DP01 that oscillates when off using the same method? Perhaps identified the equivalent capacitor? Hoping someone has done it already before taking the plunge.
Sir just one more question from me. I know you removed the tiny capacitor so is there any problems with the unit now? Appreciate your reply and thanks again 😊
No seems fine. I think it's a snubber capacitor to protect the triac driver from spikes. Seems to work ok without it. I only removed it because it was the cause of the fan oscillating constantly.
Are you sure it's safe to just remove the capacitor for the oscillation motor? I have the same issue and will remove it as well but don't want it to become a fire hazard if I do? If not can you tell me what the capacitor is to replace it?
It wouldn't cause a fire. I don't know the exact value as there are no schematics and no markings on it, although you might be able to work it out from similar applications. It is there to protect the triac driver from spikes, so worst that could happen is that IC could eventually fail and the motor would oscillate by itself like what it is doing now.
Totally agree. I remember as a kid pulling apart old TV's and sometimes they even had the schematic inside of the back of the set. A thing of the past it seems, yet we have more access to information? It seems a step forward and two steps backwards. I've noticed the SMD stuff like resistors as they have gotten smaller now have no markings too! Good luck with the capacitor sorting!👍
Just got a fan just like yours but I not able to turn it on. All components seem fine. No display just won't turn on. Need your special advice. Appreciate your help and thanks in advance.
I've just repaired a hot and cold version (revisit) that had no power. Might be worth having a look at that video as I trace through the circuit. As the power input is pretty much the same.
@@BuyitFixit Thanks for your quick response. I will take a look. I just watched "My mate Vince" channel unfortunately he failed to repair it. Anyway I will watch yours to see how it goes. Thanks again.
Unfortunately not. But I just did a quick search on the wattage on the AM07 and it's 65w. Assuming you are in the uk and we use 240v that would be 65/240=0.27Amps so I'd think a 1A fuse perhaps? I just checked in the video and on the schematic I drew on this fan, I wrote the value see 28:35 and it's 1.6A so I think it would be around the same. I would check for shorts before replacing the fuse as generally fuses blow for a reason.
I've not looked at one, if you have a test meter it should be easy to find as it will measure short circuit. It should be around the 8 pin chip where the oscillation motor plugs in.
@@BuyitFixit there's a chip near the motor.. but there's no capacitor near the chip. I cut one wrongly. Without microscope do u think soldering back the cap is possible?
@user-gd1iu6jd6i Definitely not! You'd probably short out a supply or something. Capacitors are commonly across a supply voltage (+ and - for instance) so you would be in effect shorting those together!
I just checked the seller I bought mine from, and indeed is it out of stock. Just did a quick search for LA034-040NN08A and no luck 😢 I hope you manage to find one!
@@BuyitFixit thanks for the speedy response hopefully they'll come back in stock at some point :( don't suppose you know of a different motor that'd fit? Or still haven't found a use for that 2nd one you bought? xD
Sorry mate unfortunately I don't, I'll probably keep hold of the 2nd motor as I've now got this fan, and the hot and cold version that I also repaired.
These nylon gears are a pain in the ass! I have found them in copiers/printers, scanners etc! Some of the better makes have got solenoid clutches so if mechanical load goes over a certain boundary the clutch operates and slips saving the gears from damage! Apparently only silicone grease should lubricant the nylon gears as hydrocarbon
Nylon gears seem to fail quite often as you say. Someone gave me a huge office laser printer which had some gears stripped, so I just stripped it for parts. It did have some solenoid clutches too! I know some especially on motor shafts split, or some also split as they age and they deteriorate.
I’ve watched My Mate Vince try to fix his Dyson I don’t think it’s fixed “completely, it has recurring issues.” I like watching your videos and I’m a lady…I find electronic fixes interesting 😅. Although, I can’t do any fix’s 😂😂😂.
It was actually Vince that inspired me to start doing fixes on TH-cam. It was after watching him fix a Milwaukee radio about 2 years ago, and I thought I'd buy one to fix for myself.. Then thought.. Hmmm I could do a video on it too! I had already uploaded fixing a Samsung Eco-bubble a few years before that, and never really thought much more about it as I've always fixed stuff, just not done many videos on it 😂😂👍
I would have replaced that capacitor with a 0.1-10nf one and replace the 0 ohm resistors with a low value 10-100 ohms so the snubber works to avoid spurious triggers of the optoTRIAC(with AC line spikes) and the resistors reduce stress on the capacitor so it doesn't fail again.
Not that it was the ultimate goal, but was the repair worth it financially? Is the cost of functional fan higher than the price of faulty fan + 2 new motors? Time not counting in as we consider it a pleasure 😊
Been a while since I did this one, I think the motors were around £10 and £5, plus the price of the fan and postage works out around £94. I've just looked on Ebay and a used unit ranges from around that to £200 although the odd one has sold for slightly cheaper. My wife was after one and you don't know what parts it needs before it arrives. It may have just needed a small part. It was still fun to do, and hopefully will help others repair theirs.
thank you sir for replying back when on cold it works fine but when it goes from 0 to 1 as from cold to hot it osilates for a while without any air but then it stops and shows an error code displayed e8
I've not had that fault before I did try a search on the internet but didn't find a lot. The fact that it works ok on cold, I'd think there's something possibly up with the temperature sensor, or it could be the small board that controls the heater or the heater itself. Might be worth cleaning it all out first, see if that makes and difference, and check the fan inside moves freely still just in case it's something to do with airflow.
ok boss I have opened it movement is good but I don’t know about the temperature sensor or when you say the heater itself what do you mean sir sorry about my ignorance thanks
Sorry for the late reply, I only just noticed it. There should be a little black thing on a wire (that's the temperature sensor). I'd just try cleaning everything first, and check that the motor spins freely.
If the opto-isolator can handle 100mA and the motor is pulling < 20mA I can't see the issue with using it like that. Nice fix... apart from using pliers to tighten a nut, you brute! :)
@@BuyitFixitis the shorted capacitor a process of elimination or would it be the same one as on your board? I’m guessing the boards are generic, my fan is the am06
@@TheDjProgress I think the boards are slightly different but the capacitor it in roughly the same place. If you have a meter just measure it, if it's shorted then that's the one 👍
@@BuyitFixit well, lookin at the teeth that broke in the lower motor.. there's no guide for the swingin piece.. it prolly got stuck & snapped teeth.. or like you said.. someone could have tried turning it manually & snapped em..
Why are things so complicated now? Good old box fan - induction motor (simplest motor ever), switch and cord. Runs almost forever, only stops if bushing dries out. Little oil and on again for another 10 years!
Agree, The only thing I can think is to possibly get a faster speed? or more energy efficient? but I totally agree with what you're saying. I recently bought (and did a video on) a kitchen aid stand mixer. That was 34 years old and built like a tank. I'm sure it will now last another 34 years!
What I find shocking is the rotating portion of the fan depends on that small pancake motor, almost like it was engineered to fail. No torque control at all, nothing but the tiny gearing inside that motor. It just doesn't make sense to me why they would do this, other than design. No thought of children playing with it, or getting banged around or falling over, animals. For the amount of money they charge for this fan, it's out of line with day to day use and potential abuse. Lets not forget the jet engine noise these generate.
The utter garbage design doesn’t justify the price plastic teeth when metal would have only been a little more 🙄🙄🙄 plus using parts in a dodgy manner 😂
Totally agree, but it gets worse! I also bought a hot and cold version which is a later model. It hasn't got a nice bearing for the swivel now and just a plastic bush and they are using a motor driver chip (which failed catastrophically) instead of the h-bridge and mosfets.
@@BuyitFixit I just watched the other video of the hot and cold one . I agree with "G" , huge price for something built to fail using sub standard parts . When did something so simple become so complicated with a diagnostic port etc ? Fans and oscillating fans have been around for decades but now we have to have these over complicated things just because we have the parts and they call it progress
Dyson does for 'design' what myxomatosis does for rabbits... I bought a Pifco oscillating fan over 30 years ago, and it still works fine, despite a lot of use. I doubt anyone will say that about a Dyson.
@@MattBrownbill It proves the old adage," KISS" , things are becoming more and more overcomplicated when they don't need to be , cars being a prime example but more toys to go wrong seems to appeal to people
would you have any idea what would cause the fan to turn on for 2 sec then off? when it turns on its just the number display. fan worked great yesterday. today its doing this.
@@BuyitFixit i just now got it apart. no error or f code. it says number 6 as its the fan speed ive had it. 6 displays for a sec or 2 then shuts off. but if i hurry to hit the ocilate button before the 2 sec. it will start to oscilate then shuts down. (fan blade doesnt turn on tho). ive taken the pcb out but havent tested electrical. was also thinkin maybe the fan blade might be stuck? was thinkin if theres a sensor that might be blocked or playing up but i cant seem to google if it has one. am11 model. i literally just bought this fan used in working condition from a neighbor not even a week ago lol. to me $50 was a steal. maybe this is why he sold it. but if it is why, why isnt it working intermittently.
@@BuyitFixit thats what i was figuring. ok so ive found the issue. it isnt the pcb. gotten the motor out. fans free but was sticky. i kept the fan apart but plugged the connections in and tried it. turn fan on it shuts off again. i spun the blade while turning it on and it works again. turned off. it turns on now without my help to finger the fan blade to spin. i think ill dab some 3in1 oil on the bearings and blow some dust out. i dont think its that though, it might just be the motor having a bad rotor vane. so i guess if it does this again ill have to source a motor. that was a quick reply man
Happy to let you know than even in 2024 you just helped me fixed mine. Same issue with oscillation and fixed by removing the C51. Huge thanks to you Monsieur !
@@tonyc.b.8655 Thanks 👍Glad it was helpful to you 🙂
Dear sir, I finally fixed my fan! Huge thanks to you, sir!
Brilliant news Zal! Glad you managed to repair it. Well done 👏👏👏👍
I watched your lengthy repairs with great interest. It was a lot of hard work and it was fun. If I have an electronic product, I watch disassembly and repair videos eagerly. It's a habit I have since I have free time after retirement. Because repair is a pleasure. It will last as long as my eyesight can handle it. In most cases, semiconductors and circuit patterns are barely understood. I replace that part, and I fix the rest myself. Your video will be helpful for my Dyson fan. thank you~
Thank you for your kind comment, and thanks for watching. Good luck with your Dyson fan.👍
Great help. C51 removed and oscillation solved.
Glad you got it working again 👍
How did you learn electronics? What was your job to learn so much? Did you go to university and what did you study?
Loved your explanation. Very simple and easy to understand, actually made sense without a load of waffle like some TH-camrs.
Thanks 👍A lot of stuff was just experimenting and messing about with stuff from when I was a kid. I used to apply voltages to things like capacitors (the wrong way round) and watch them go pop! When I was a little bit older I started messing about with some old PCB's that I found that were from old space invader types games and figured out how to wire them up in my bedroom, and then ended up working in amusement arcades fixing / rebuilding / converting arcade machines back in the late 80's and early 90's. Used to fix TV's for friends and family, and picked up tricks and tips from other techs. No formal training or anything, I just like to figure things out and always want to know how things work.. I've got an inquisitive mind!
@@BuyitFixit very cool thanks for the reply. I repair printers but have always pondered when looking at the circuit boards what's happening. Watching your videos has helped me massively fill in the blanks. I wish I did electronics much sooner as I'm the same as you if it breaks the first thing I do is try and work out why. Very entertaining videos 👍. It's a skill you need these days as half the stuff I buy from Lidl come with manufacturing faults 🤣.
I have a 16 inch desk fan. It has no circuit board, a single shaded pole motor with a single coil. It has 3 speeds and oscillation control. It is over 10 years old, has been subject to all the usual knocks and bumps. It is usually on over 12 hours a day in the summer. It is whisper-quiet, works perfectly and the only maintenance I've had to do is give the cage and fan blades a wash every now and again. It cost £15 at Sainsbury's. The only thing it doesn't have is a Dyson £500 price tag dangling off it!
Agree, a lot less complicated, more reliable, and cheaper too! One of the best engineered products I've worked on was the kitchen aid mixer I looked at (video on here) it's 36 years old and like brand new still inside. I serviced it all and I'm sure it will last another 36 years..
You are amazing ,my angel .I pickup one in the trash .I crashed that c51 coupling capacitor ,now VOLA! Thank you so much ❤
Thanks so much Tan. I'm glad my video was helpful to you! 👍👍
Capacitor C51 was out of order on my Dyson AM06.
Now no more present on the PCB and the AM06 oscillation is now controlled by the remote.
Problem is fixed.
Thanks for your explanation, schematic and video.
Great work
Thanks Chapeau BAKWA glad you found it helpful!
C51 is a snubber capacitor on AM06? im using TP02. just want to clarify. thanks
@@BuyitFixithow do you remove a capacitor per 30:41 here?
Thank you! Amazing video, very entertaining and informative. You showed us all the little details, not only the main parts. When you were deciding whether to open or not those two components that you replaced ( you already knew they need to be replaced ), I was hoping you would open them. And you did! 😊
Thanks 👍appreciate your feedback 🙂
Excellent video; just goes to show the more complicated things are the more chance of them breaking down. For such an expensive item, it's unbelievable that they would use such cheap plastic gears.
Cheers James, totally agree. You would get a whole lot less trouble with an old fashioned fan!
That was a lot of work but fun to watch. Great fix!
Thank you kindly sir!
Thank you very much for the video. I've been able to repair my Dyson fan by removing the C51 capacitor.
Brilliant 👍Thanks for letting me know 🙂
Amazing how you fathom the electronics internally, how they work..
Thanks 👍
Using a triac driver ic to control the load directly is wild, tells you about the company's mindset of making crappy products. Greatings from Argentina :)
Cheers 👍yeah I thought it was a bit odd too. Especially in one of the datasheets it said not to be used to drive a load directly.
Thanks for sharing. I have two Dyson fans which have the same issue, too. I`m going to buy chips to recover them. Hope to fix the issue like you.
Good luck 👍 let me know how you get on, and thanks for commenting 🙂
Great work fixing that, I thought they put better gears in those or at least have a way of stopping the gears from getting torn. But keep up the good work and looking forward to the next video. And congratulations on getting to 1000 subscribers 🎉
Thanks so much Morten! Next video should be an invader one then a huge Milwaukee floodlight.
The nylon sprockets are suitably robust (probably), you can't design against every possible kind of abuse.
22:58 In the datasheet of the MOC3083M, I couldn't find a max current across the main terminals. The peak non-repetitive surge current in 1 A and the holding current 0.5 mA but I couldn't find the max continuous current
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You say it's 100 mA, do you remember how they call it? Or if it was in a table or graph?
I'm pretty sure I saw it in the datasheet, but there might be a few different sheets from different manufacturers. It was a while back, but I do remember it saying that it shouldn't be used to drive loads directly.
Thank you. I had the same fault with C51 on an AM06. Removing the capacitor fixed the constant rotation problem!
You're welcome!
this is the most comprehensive repair video of the dyson fan ever!
Question: Would removing c51 capacitor solve the oscillating issue? I was thinking if its possible to add a physical switch on the wires to the oscillating motor solve the issue too? Im terrible at soldering!
Thanks Zal👍I'm not sure what you mean by R86 capacitor, as R would mean resistor C would be capacitor. You could add a switch if you desired but testing the capacitor I removed and if it's shorted, just removing it by cutting it in half or such would also work.
@@BuyitFixitsorry i meant the c51 capacitor.
If that capacitor is the only one thats causing the problem, removing it wont be much of an issue! i hope my circuit board is the same as yours!
Thanks for posting Mick
No worries
You can see why the oscillation motor got destroyed, If you look at the top left hand part of the fan body at timestamp 0:43, you can see where the body has been grinding against something while it was oscillating. Probably overloaded the gears and stripped them.
Interesting, I didn't notice that 👍
Well done. Personally, I would replace / refit the triac snubber capacitor (and check it's voltage rating).
Thanks Ralph! I wasn't sure on the value of the capacitor as there's no schematic. I guess it would be a quite low capacity and voltage higher than mains voltage.
@@BuyitFixit Generally, yes, a low value. There's a ton of online info re selecting values, but you can waste the rest of your life trying to fully understand the maths.
I think that snubber network is to relief the stress on the TRIAC. Without it that MOC may fail sooner or later.
Yeah totally agree. I guess for how often you actually switch the oscillating on and off though it may well last as long as the rest of it.
@@BuyitFixit I think it totally depends on AC mains frequency. If it is 60Hz, there are 120 zero crossings per second. So the snubber absorb 120 stress occasions per second. That is one of the reasons that cap to fail. As a suggestion you can replace one of that 0 ohm resistor with a 10 ohm one. So it smoothen the RC time constant.
It's a triac driver as it's a driver that contains a triac, as shown in schematic in datasheet. It's also got zero crossing detect, which is a nice touch.
Yes, triac driver which does contain a small triac👍 One one of the datasheets (can't remember which manufacturer but same part number) it specifically stated that the device itself should not be used to drive a load directly and an external triac should be used.
@@BuyitFixit It depends on load as it doesn't have much grunt.
Usted es un gran profesional. Admiro sus conocimientos en electrónica. Su video me ha gustado mucho y me ha servido para reparar un ventilador Dyson exactamente igual al de su video. Sólo me falta saber qué modelo es para comprar un mando de control remoto. ¿Sabe usted el modelo?. Felicidades y tiene un like!!!. Le envío un cordial saludo desde España.
Muchas gracias, me alegro que te haya resultado útil. Lo siento, no sé el modelo de control remoto.
Saludos desde Inglaterra
As always . well done! Great fix!
I've always had the impression that the build quality of Dyson is mediocre. A highly expensive product (to buy) but of shoddy cheap quality and materials.
Thanks 👍and a pretty accurate description 😂
Yes, we always refered to them as DieSooon
Mine has an oscillation fault, but not quite the same. It doesn't permanently oscillate, but once you turn the oscillation on, you can't turn it off again. It'll also randomly start oscillating on its own while the fan isn't running.
Which circuit component is the most likely cause of this?
@@dan19evans I'd think the triac in the optocoupler had probably gone faulty and is latching on.
Really nice fix Mick, just 2 observations if I may... why did you not replace the shorted cap? Was it that you just couldn't find / have a repladement one as if it was a decoupling cap it would be needed, wouldn't it? and the second observation... that Andrex "Wind Sock" made me laugh out loud when I saw it fluttering away at the end there. Absolutely apt use of the toilet roll, very spot on and very funny too, it made me chuckle quite a bit 👍😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks 😂😂😂😂 I was just thinking how can I show the audience it working. I was unsure on the cap as I think it needed to be an X rated one as it has mains supply across it. I didn't have any so I just thought I'd remove it. My thinking was it's not like you keep switching the oscillation motor on and off every few minutes. You probably just either have it on or off.
How to fix F5 error shown on this dyson fan? Please advice 🙏🏻
Just watched this as I am going through all your repair videos - thanks for great content.
My observations are that Dyson items are overpriced, over engineered, over complicated and difficult to clean properly.
Good repair though 😀
Thanks 👍yes I'd agree with you on that 😂😂😂
You know the sound when you first started and I kind of hear it when you are showing it at the end. Like the rubbing sound? I have that but on a higher level to the point where the motor cuts out because of the force against it. Can figure it out. Not sure if the fan is out of balance or something. Not sure.
I'd check the fan blades for debris or damage, possibly bearings?
@@BuyitFixit Can you pin this reply because I think it applies to everyone when taking apart their fan and I found my solution.
When you are done cleaning and maintaining your fan, make sure all 4 torx bits that attaches to the fan housing are tight, not over tight but tight with a screwdriver or ratchet. If not the fan blades with rub with the fan housing causing friction and not great sounds and error codes. Also make sure the longer torx bits are tight as they also hold the fan housing in place also and I tightened them a bit at a time in a cross cross pattern to keep even distribution and balance. Hope this helped.
Hello, I'd really appreciate any guidance. I've got to the main PCB and when removed there is a burn mark on the bace from R66. checked F1 that's also gone. when would be your next more?
thank you for your time and grate videos, I'm new to your channel, but have been working my way though your repairs. from Scott
Hi Scott, if you have a picture of the board (It needs to be good quality and not blurry) you can drop me an email at the channel's name at out look dot com.
how did you fix the f3 error?
From the mcu at pin 32, is that GPIO-Pin directly bound to a 10K Resistor at the base of that npn? Kinda seems quite high of a resistance for any fast straight switching, does it?
Nice ! I must ask, is there a filter or something for ebay when you look for "spares or repairs" or do you just trawl through please ? also great Fan after a long wait !....cheers.
I've got a couple of searches, 'faulty' but then I do like -iphone -switch -sensor to avoid loads of rubbish, also things like 'please read' or 'spares or repair' sometimes I just select a category and set a price and tick 'for parts and not working ' hope that helps 🙂👍
yep@@BuyitFixit 🛒🐭
Nice of you to share the part of the schematic that you took the time to work out. Another fan lives to blow toilet paper again.
😂😂😂yes indeed 🧻🧻🧻🧻
Excellent work, thanks for sharing
Thank you! Cheers Brian 👍
Thank you sir for a great and informative video! Now excuse me while I sell all my Dyson stock lol
😂😂😂😂
Great work. My board appears to be slightly different. I can't find R86. I tried to remove the one next to the U1, which is R35, and it's still oscillating when plugged in. Thanks in advance for your reply
It's not a resistor you should be removing it's a capacitor! Check the small capacitors around that are to see if any are shorted or have a very low reading
@Buy it Fix it thank you
The only capacitor near it is the big blue one, which is the v2. Could it be that?
It should only be a tiny one, probably a tan colour. Take a picture of the board if you like and send me it
@@BuyitFixit thank you so much. how can I send the photo?
Try imgur and post a link ?
Good evening, the circuit board on my Dyson AM07 is defective. Could you perhaps repair the circuit board? Kind regards
Hi Peter, I'm unfortunately I'm usually quite busy with my own repairs etc. I also volunteer at our local repair cafe where people in the local community can bring items in for repair and we have a look free of charge. There's probably one in your area who might be able to help.
Hi bro nice job
Thanks 👍🙂
I got a xiaomi fan that has large sound-optimized fanblades which has more airflow than these things at a much lower noise level. Oh and the build quality is really fantastic, unlike the plastic tat that is Dyson. I wish they'd up their build quality but alas, nearly all of their products have either shoddy plastic cases that break in the worst ways (cordless vacuums have the power switch in the battery, and a long flimsy plastic piece goes from the trigger to the battery switch, their hairdrier is made of extremely cheap and brittle plastic, etc) or have weird circuitry that's prone to fail, as you showed.
Thanks 👍 I might have a look at those fans you mentioned.
Heya,1 more great long vlog loved it
Thank you 👍
12:48 the swivel motor looks the same type as used in microwaves for the turntable. Its a generic synchronous motor.
Yes, that's what I ordered for it 😉
Well Mick! Great work as always...
Thanks Marc 👍
I sometimes consider picking up a spares / repairs Dyson Airblade for the bathroom instead of a hand towel. There's an original one on now but they're 1600W which is a lot considering they don't have a big heater
I would think most of that will be heater. I cant see the motor and driver being a lot.
@@BuyitFixitsorry, my comments should relate closer to your video. Here goes:
I have tried using the non-genuine air filters for the Dyson tower fans (the cylindrical type filters) and while good quality, they offer too much resistance to the fan. Air is drawn around the sides causing a lot of noise.
A shame as they're £15 each rather than £50 for genuine.
i figured they used the high volume air instead of heating it.
@@ianhelsbyservices Is there a way to determine if the replacement filters are as good as the genuine filters? Looking at filters for something like a DP01 - surely Dyson massively overprice their replacement filters, but unclear if there is a quality gap with aftermarket replacements.
Can you do a milwaukee cordless m12 pin nailer repair.
I've not came across one of those yet, it just depends what broken items are for sale on eBay. I did get hold of an m18 2nd fix nailer to look at, but not done that one yet.
I'd love to have found out exactly what caused the main motor to fail. I checked TH-cam after watching this video and lots of motor fail videos but everyone just replaced them. Usually these motors are bulletproof and thats why I'm so curious to know what design fault is causing this common failure.
I think the bearings failed and it overheated as it was melted inside
@@BuyitFixit That satisfies my curiousity. Thanks for the reply. Great brand Dyson. But man, when they go wrong, the ordinary handyman hasn't a hope of fixing them. :)
Sir, your motor assembly should have rubber mounts that position the assembly center in the unit. I wonder now if not having them was the cause of your motor bearings burning out. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for commenting 👍
Why was the fan melted to the housing at the beginning.... and what was the white stripe on it... as you said someone had been in already and glued that fan that which eventually melted to the housing and hence you thought it was siezed...
I suspect the air intakes might have gotten blocked causing poor airflow and causing the motor to overheat and melt.
Hi Mate. the motor that you have in your link is no longer available. but they have one's that look similar except its 105V vs 300v? Do you know if this will make any difference? Australian models if it makes any difference. thank you.
Hi mate, you'll need the same motor as what I used. Someone else mentioned that they are no longer available which sucks as it makes these unrepairable now. I'm not sure if the manufacturer of the motors still makes them or not? Perhaps worth emailing them to enquire?
@@BuyitFixit thanks for that. Would you be able to give me all the specs so I can see if I can find it? Thanks again.
Great video
Thanks 👍
nice video
@@didimilano2438 Thank you 👍🙂
quick question: is there any change in loudness after you replaced the fan motor? I find my dyson a little too loud for my liking
I honestly can't tell you. The unit was non working when I bought it, and the only reference I have is after changing the motor. It's not really loud or anything, but I've got nothing to compare to previously.
@@BuyitFixitok noted! thanks! Will try removing that capacitor and will give you an update!
Just got F2 code of Am07 fan. There bottom motor seems ok , but the wind motor can not move. It is motor problem or pcb control problem? Thanks
Check if the motor rotates freely by hand. It could be jammed with debris or the bearings could be gone.
Hi, I still have a problem with this fan.The fan noise is very loud.Wondering can the noise be eliminated by changing a new motor?
I'd first disassemble it and see if there is any debris clogging the motor or fan (you'd need to do this anyway to change the motor) if it's not that then the bearings in the motor could have failed which would also make it noisy. Hope that helps 👍
One more question. You actually applied super glue on the contact between the nut and the fan top,is it really necessary?
The original had some loctite on it and I didn't have any at the time so used what I had. The manufacturers thought it was needed so I just followed suit.
someone must have abused that fan. However, the abuse was no match for your skills. Great fix.
Thanks 👍
Does anyone know the right size circlip plier to buy for the circlip? (Or how to find the right size)? tried to buy a circlip plier to take apart the DP01 but found the tips are too big and don't fit in the holes of the circlip. It looks just like the circlip in the video but there's no comment as to the sizing.
Unfortunately I'm not sure on the exact size, I already had a few sets of circlip pliers already.
@@BuyitFixit Thanks for the reply. Is there a way to find out the appropriate size required? I can open it up but I'm not sure what to measure / look for when buying a circlip plier, and the one I bought has tips that are too big. What specification(s) should I look for? inner/outer radius of the circlip, inner/outer radius of the hole?
Wondering if anyone fixed a DP01 that oscillates when off using the same method? Perhaps identified the equivalent capacitor? Hoping someone has done it already before taking the plunge.
hi , how you remove the motor part ? I m stuck on that part to change the new motor 😅
Did I not show on the video? I'm not sure which bit you mean.
Sir just one more question from me. I know you removed the tiny capacitor so is there any problems with the unit now? Appreciate your reply and thanks again 😊
No seems fine. I think it's a snubber capacitor to protect the triac driver from spikes. Seems to work ok without it. I only removed it because it was the cause of the fan oscillating constantly.
@@BuyitFixit Thank you so much 😊 I am learning from you. Very much appreciated 😊
@@darenchanlp You are very welcome!
@@BuyitFixit after removing snubber capacitor, are you able to control the oscillation using the remote?
Yes, works fine with the remote.
can I just run a switch and make a provision on the side to turn it on/off?
For the oscillation motor it would be possible, but not for the main fan motor.
That was a good one.. i like seeing these types of vids... thanks..
Thanks Terry 👍
Are you sure it's safe to just remove the capacitor for the oscillation motor? I have the same issue and will remove it as well but don't want it to become a fire hazard if I do? If not can you tell me what the capacitor is to replace it?
It wouldn't cause a fire. I don't know the exact value as there are no schematics and no markings on it, although you might be able to work it out from similar applications. It is there to protect the triac driver from spikes, so worst that could happen is that IC could eventually fail and the motor would oscillate by itself like what it is doing now.
@@BuyitFixit thanks. I'll remove it then. Thanks again for your efforts in explaining it to us.
@@locslikes No problem. Glad to help 🙂
Totally agree. I remember as a kid pulling apart old TV's and sometimes they even had the schematic inside of the back of the set. A thing of the past it seems, yet we have more access to information? It seems a step forward and two steps backwards. I've noticed the SMD stuff like resistors as they have gotten smaller now have no markings too!
Good luck with the capacitor sorting!👍
Just got a fan just like yours but I not able to turn it on. All components seem fine. No display just won't turn on. Need your special advice. Appreciate your help and thanks in advance.
I've just repaired a hot and cold version (revisit) that had no power. Might be worth having a look at that video as I trace through the circuit. As the power input is pretty much the same.
@@BuyitFixit Thanks for your quick response. I will take a look. I just watched "My mate Vince" channel unfortunately he failed to repair it. Anyway I will watch yours to see how it goes. Thanks again.
No problem. Give me a shout if you get stuck. Vince is a great guy. He gave my channel a shout out a couple of times 👍
I have a AM07 fan with a blown motherboard fuse.. I have no idea what the value of it is? Have you replaced the fuse before?
Unfortunately not. But I just did a quick search on the wattage on the AM07 and it's 65w. Assuming you are in the uk and we use 240v that would be 65/240=0.27Amps so I'd think a 1A fuse perhaps? I just checked in the video and on the schematic I drew on this fan, I wrote the value see 28:35 and it's 1.6A so I think it would be around the same. I would check for shorts before replacing the fuse as generally fuses blow for a reason.
They are as complicated as i expected. I have never seen inside one. How much did all those repairs cost in parts?
Thanks JS. About £20 in parts. Motors were about £9 each.
@@BuyitFixit wonderful! Well worth it!
Hi, need your help urgently, I got a Dyson TP03 that won't stop ocillate. Which capacitor number shld I cut?❤ thx in advance 😊
I've not looked at one, if you have a test meter it should be easy to find as it will measure short circuit. It should be around the 8 pin chip where the oscillation motor plugs in.
@@BuyitFixit there's a chip near the motor.. but there's no capacitor near the chip. I cut one wrongly. Without microscope do u think soldering back the cap is possible?
@@Singaporemyhome yes, it's possible but probably not easy.
@@BuyitFixit as I don't have a cap on hand? do u suggest that I bridge the cap using a needle? Or something thin?
@user-gd1iu6jd6i Definitely not! You'd probably short out a supply or something. Capacitors are commonly across a supply voltage (+ and - for instance) so you would be in effect shorting those together!
Is there a specific fan motor to replace or can I replace with any Dyson motor ? Your reply is appreciated.
It's a specific motor. Check the video description. I put all the information on the motor I bought in there :)
@@BuyitFixit Thanks appreciate your help.
what website or sites do you find the broken items that you fix?
I just normally search on ebay for fault, spares or repair, or look in categories with 'for parts or not working' ticked.
Thanks for the great video. I'm trying to replace the blower motor, and can't find one in stock anywhere. Anyone else found one recently?
I just checked the seller I bought mine from, and indeed is it out of stock. Just did a quick search for LA034-040NN08A and no luck 😢 I hope you manage to find one!
@@BuyitFixit thanks for the speedy response hopefully they'll come back in stock at some point :( don't suppose you know of a different motor that'd fit? Or still haven't found a use for that 2nd one you bought? xD
Sorry mate unfortunately I don't, I'll probably keep hold of the 2nd motor as I've now got this fan, and the hot and cold version that I also repaired.
Haha no worries, though it was an outside chance 😅 thanks for the work on the video, and replies!
No worries mate, glad to help 👍
Thats one of those expensive fans. Well worth fixing
Yes indeed!
Can you do a tear down down / repair on the new machines?? Like hp or tp 04/07/09?? They are so unreliable
It depends if I come across one cheap on Ebay. Even broken Dyson tat seems to fetch a pretty penny 🤔
These nylon gears are a pain in the ass! I have found them in copiers/printers, scanners etc! Some of the better makes have got solenoid clutches so if mechanical load goes over a certain boundary the clutch operates and slips saving the gears from damage! Apparently only silicone grease should lubricant the nylon gears as hydrocarbon
Nylon gears seem to fail quite often as you say. Someone gave me a huge office laser printer which had some gears stripped, so I just stripped it for parts. It did have some solenoid clutches too! I know some especially on motor shafts split, or some also split as they age and they deteriorate.
I’ve watched My Mate Vince try to fix his Dyson I don’t think it’s fixed “completely, it has recurring issues.” I like watching your videos and I’m a lady…I find electronic fixes interesting 😅. Although, I can’t do any fix’s 😂😂😂.
It was actually Vince that inspired me to start doing fixes on TH-cam. It was after watching him fix a Milwaukee radio about 2 years ago, and I thought I'd buy one to fix for myself.. Then thought.. Hmmm I could do a video on it too! I had already uploaded fixing a Samsung Eco-bubble a few years before that, and never really thought much more about it as I've always fixed stuff, just not done many videos on it 😂😂👍
I would have replaced that capacitor with a 0.1-10nf one and replace the 0 ohm resistors with a low value 10-100 ohms so the snubber works to avoid spurious triggers of the optoTRIAC(with AC line spikes) and the resistors reduce stress on the capacitor so it doesn't fail again.
Thanks for the advice 👍
Would replacing the 0 ohm resistor with a 10-100 ohm resistor mean the fan will be consuming power when plugged into AC, but turned off?
Awesome 👌
Thank you 👍
What is the value of the C51 capacitor?
0.1uf
Sorry for the late reply. Glad you managed to figure it out.
Not that it was the ultimate goal, but was the repair worth it financially? Is the cost of functional fan higher than the price of faulty fan + 2 new motors? Time not counting in as we consider it a pleasure 😊
Been a while since I did this one, I think the motors were around £10 and £5, plus the price of the fan and postage works out around £94. I've just looked on Ebay and a used unit ranges from around that to £200 although the odd one has sold for slightly cheaper. My wife was after one and you don't know what parts it needs before it arrives. It may have just needed a small part. It was still fun to do, and hopefully will help others repair theirs.
Dear sir I have the same one problem is cold fan works but the heat at does not please help
What happens when you try the heat setting? an error? nothing? Does the fan still spin but blow cold?
thank you sir for replying back when on cold it works fine but when it goes from 0 to 1 as from cold to hot it osilates for a while without any air but then it stops and shows an error code displayed e8
I've not had that fault before I did try a search on the internet but didn't find a lot. The fact that it works ok on cold, I'd think there's something possibly up with the temperature sensor, or it could be the small board that controls the heater or the heater itself. Might be worth cleaning it all out first, see if that makes and difference, and check the fan inside moves freely still just in case it's something to do with airflow.
ok boss I have opened it movement is good but I don’t know about the temperature sensor or when you say the heater itself what do you mean sir sorry about my ignorance thanks
Sorry for the late reply, I only just noticed it. There should be a little black thing on a wire (that's the temperature sensor). I'd just try cleaning everything first, and check that the motor spins freely.
If the opto-isolator can handle 100mA and the motor is pulling < 20mA I can't see the issue with using it like that. Nice fix... apart from using pliers to tighten a nut, you brute! :)
Yes in theory it should handle it, but in the data sheet it says it should not be used to drive a load directly
I missed something. What caused the h2 error???
I don't think this one showed a H2 error?
Cheers!
Thanks 🙂👍
Is that a silent fan??
I guess it quieter than a regular fan, but I'd say it's far from silent.
Nice work .. the impeller seems out of balance.
It could well be, it's still working at the moment and hasn't blew up yet 😂😂😂
Wow, its loud for a fan? 😮
Yes, quite powerful when it's on full. We just normally run it at low speed.
@@BuyitFixit in my bedroom I use a completely silent ceiling fan with a DC motor, was a very good invest
Dyson quoted me £100 to fix the oscillation issue, fair price?
Depends of you're happy paying it. The cost of the replacement part (I just removed it) would be around 10p.
@@BuyitFixit yikes! Best i get my screwdriver out then 😂 thanks for the reply
No problem 🙂
@@BuyitFixitis the shorted capacitor a process of elimination or would it be the same one as on your board? I’m guessing the boards are generic, my fan is the am06
@@TheDjProgress I think the boards are slightly different but the capacitor it in roughly the same place. If you have a meter just measure it, if it's shorted then that's the one 👍
A fan that complicated was always going to fail
Yep, it's still working currently, but I'm sure it will blow up at some point in the future 😂😂
@@BuyitFixit well, lookin at the teeth that broke in the lower motor.. there's no guide for the swingin piece.. it prolly got stuck & snapped teeth.. or like you said.. someone could have tried turning it manually & snapped em..
A long winded breeze?🤧🤧🤧🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Hi, Mick you paid plenty for this consumer junk, cheers
Yep. The wife wanted one... gotta keep the missus happy!
Why are things so complicated now? Good old box fan - induction motor (simplest motor ever), switch and cord. Runs almost forever, only stops if bushing dries out. Little oil and on again for another 10 years!
Agree, The only thing I can think is to possibly get a faster speed? or more energy efficient? but I totally agree with what you're saying. I recently bought (and did a video on) a kitchen aid stand mixer. That was 34 years old and built like a tank. I'm sure it will now last another 34 years!
@BuyitFixit I watched that video too. They are heavily built.
What I find shocking is the rotating portion of the fan depends on that small pancake motor, almost like it was engineered to fail. No torque control at all, nothing but the tiny gearing inside that motor. It just doesn't make sense to me why they would do this, other than design. No thought of children playing with it, or getting banged around or falling over, animals. For the amount of money they charge for this fan, it's out of line with day to day use and potential abuse. Lets not forget the jet engine noise these generate.
Yes, gears just strip as happened in this case 👍
8:21 you'll need a puller to get that off.
The utter garbage design doesn’t justify the price plastic teeth when metal would have only been a little more 🙄🙄🙄 plus using parts in a dodgy manner 😂
Totally agree, but it gets worse! I also bought a hot and cold version which is a later model. It hasn't got a nice bearing for the swivel now and just a plastic bush and they are using a motor driver chip (which failed catastrophically) instead of the h-bridge and mosfets.
@@BuyitFixit I just watched the other video of the hot and cold one . I agree with "G" , huge price for something built to fail using sub standard parts . When did something so simple become so complicated with a diagnostic port etc ? Fans and oscillating fans have been around for decades but now we have to have these over complicated things just because we have the parts and they call it progress
Totally agree. Thank for the comment!
Dyson does for 'design' what myxomatosis does for rabbits... I bought a Pifco oscillating fan over 30 years ago, and it still works fine, despite a lot of use. I doubt anyone will say that about a Dyson.
@@MattBrownbill It proves the old adage," KISS" , things are becoming more and more overcomplicated when they don't need to be , cars being a prime example but more toys to go wrong seems to appeal to people
All those electronics for an expensive overly complicated fan, worlds gone mad 😂
Yes indeed 😂😂😂
looks the same motor as a microwave plate motor.
Very similar but different RPM
Reacts with nylon and damages the gears? 😢 Dyson is supposed to be the rolls Royce of appliances!😂 Fraser
I replaced a pair of bearings in a Dyson fan and it refused to operate ever again.
Dyson = overpriced junk.
Yes, I'm not really a fan 😂😂😂
Note to self: don't buy Dyson.
😂😂😂
would you have any idea what would cause the fan to turn on for 2 sec then off? when it turns on its just the number display. fan worked great yesterday. today its doing this.
Jammed motor? Does it display a code like F2 or F3?
@@BuyitFixit i just now got it apart. no error or f code. it says number 6 as its the fan speed ive had it. 6 displays for a sec or 2 then shuts off. but if i hurry to hit the ocilate button before the 2 sec. it will start to oscilate then shuts down. (fan blade doesnt turn on tho). ive taken the pcb out but havent tested electrical. was also thinkin maybe the fan blade might be stuck? was thinkin if theres a sensor that might be blocked or playing up but i cant seem to google if it has one. am11 model. i literally just bought this fan used in working condition from a neighbor not even a week ago lol. to me $50 was a steal. maybe this is why he sold it. but if it is why, why isnt it working intermittently.
@@camaroiowaguy23 Unusual if it just shuts off. They normally display an error message.
@@BuyitFixit thats what i was figuring. ok so ive found the issue. it isnt the pcb. gotten the motor out. fans free but was sticky. i kept the fan apart but plugged the connections in and tried it. turn fan on it shuts off again. i spun the blade while turning it on and it works again. turned off. it turns on now without my help to finger the fan blade to spin. i think ill dab some 3in1 oil on the bearings and blow some dust out. i dont think its that though, it might just be the motor having a bad rotor vane. so i guess if it does this again ill have to source a motor. that was a quick reply man
@@BuyitFixit oil fixed it. oiled both ends of the motor. fan turns on by itself now. your a big help though. thank ya man
Using the MOC for driving the motor is GOOD ENGINEERING!
Not having that cap in is BAD ENGINEERING! ...unless you like having trouble down the line.