Candi Soda being a network engineer for 21 years, I used to tell people not to turn their computers on its side or the data would drain out. Same thing with the monitor, the color would drain out. I was actually shocked how many people actually believed me to. The best was when someone complained that the printer said the toner was low & they didn't know how to fix it. I said it means you need to put the printer higher on the desk.
@@MohitSharma-so9st yea, cause everyone got 1000$ to waste on drives. Like with that money you could get a pc. (not now because of the shortages but still)
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case you're not, here goes! Replacing the hdd on an older computer really won't do as much for you, because the rest of the system still can't process the information quickly, no matter how quickly the hard drive(whatever kind it is) can deliver it. SSDs are important nowadays, because the rest of the system can handle data significantly faster than HDDs can hand it out, modern SSDs are now significantly faster than the computers that house them, with the only advances now being capacity and durability. Also, the speed of your programs, once launched, will still be limited to the number crunching power of your CPU, they'll just be launched much faster with an SSD. The SIZE of all running programs will still be limited by your amount of RAM(RAM speed has surprisingly little effect on pc performance), you'll just be able to populate that RAM with data much more quickly from an SSD. Smoothness of visuals will still be limited by the power of your graphics and central processors, but games and videos will launch, load, and save much more quickly with an SSD. There's a LOT more to it than, "the industry has been screwing us for years".
That's not really true at all. Many old laptops had incredibly slow 5400RPM or lower HDDs and replacement with an SSD can breathe new life into them. Old desktops also had slower HDDs, MUCH slower when it comes to non-sequential access, like an order of magnitude slower. Today is not like 15 years ago. Ten years ago Intel released Core 2 Duo and practically any dual core processor based system, besides the ultra low power variants used in low end mobile computing, are going to benefit from a modern SSD, providing they at least have SATA even if it's SATA I, or have a multi-lane PCIe SATA controller card added if PCIe 1. As for the speed of your programs, most things done on the typical PC besides gaming or video encoding, do not put much of a load on the CPU. The average 10 year old system probably averages under 10% CPU utilization, let alone something newer. Granted that is only an average but for momentary purposes it only needs to keep up with realtime activities like video playback, something that's been offloaded to GPU for around 10 years too if you ignore the sluggish intel integrated video from a few years past. It is true that the industry hasn't been screwing us for years. For years there were SSD available already, but we had to wait for SATA standards to mature to be fast enough, for flash chip process size to shrink again and again to bring capacity down to an affordable level, and for SSD controller tech to mature.
Yeah, we're on the same page about most of this I think. I'd estimate that the average pc made before about year 2005 won't show any significant difference between a MODERN HDD and a top of the line SSD though(which was my original point). Your CPU load estimates are pretty inacurate I'd say, considering that Core2 CPUs came out in 2006, and the very best of those are rapidly approaching unusability with modern programs, spending the majority of their time above 50% load with anything more taxing than checking email and Craigslist(I know a lot of old people). A decent modern PC with that old 5400RPM HDD will be WORLDS more useful than a 2006 PC, with a dual-core, 4GB of DDR2, a GeForce 6600 GT and the worlds fastest modern SSD.
I'd rather you'd buy some more RAM or an SSD because their write speeds are faster than ever and their SOOOO cheap nowadays but If you don't want to just install Avast or any other antivirus they remove crap from your computer so you can stick with a HDD
I just missed a second hand 1tb kingston ssd for 200$ T-T didnt have the money on hand and it was gone . My point is , you can find the cheap if you are lucky .
Agreed! The cost for $:GB now is tremendously lower than just a couple years back. I just bought a 1TB SSD yesterday for $275(CAD) and the difference in speed over traditional HDD is game-changing. Very satisfied and would encourage others to consider even "Lower-end" consumer SSD to upgrade your rigs.
+HSD112 I got it from Canada Computers. If you're in Canada as well there's likely a store somewhere nearby to grab one at the current "sale" price until July 7. Here's a link m.canadacomputers.com/mobile/itemid/091859 There are also similar performance SSDs in a comparable price range. If you can't get to Canada computers to pick one up I'm confident Amazon also has them available for the same pricing. Hope that helps
+XxBigDAWG22xX M.2 slot for your Windows - a lot faster than the regular SATA connector SATA express (16Gbit) for your SSHD - Not as fast as the M.2 ssd, but a LOT faster than the regular HDD even the 10 000rpm
yeah thats what i do im pretty happy with it. but only people with some knowledge should do that because you often have to change the paths when installing programs or downloading stuff
Pretty impressed by the hybrid drive, it's not a bad little bit of kit. Normal day to day use, it's great idea if you're building a budget pc but need the space.
@EclipseTrips The new Microsoft Edge sucks as it is available only on one platform as far as I know and it's getting too much attention it doesn't need
6 years later and this video is still the best to show someone who wants to know the differences. I sent this video Who wants to change laptop's disk to ssd.
Having used an hybrid for about 2 years now, I can confirm that it doesn't make much difference. Those computers in the video are freshly formatted with Windows probably not even updated. After a couple months of normal use, it gets much slower (5+ min to boot and be able to do something with the computer) where with an SSD, the boot is still less than 30 seconds.
Seems to me the hybrid is only slightly slower then the ssd for the price it seems thats the way to go because you can get a lot more storage for a lower price.
+Littlefabio Hybrid I believe is always the best option unless you are completely comp.. clumsy! I mean then you wouldn't need the faster flash memory of the hybrid anyway if that was the case. This is a bit old, and the RPM of the HDD is 5400RPM which is average but there are 7200s which go fair bit faster... That being said with 16Mb cache which is actually quite good it helps speed things along, especially ONCE IT GETS RUNNING. Having high cache and a 7200 RPM is still quite good especially if there is no option for a custom made laptop like in my case since I only have 5 - 6 Business days left before I leave... or if custom made is too pricey...
I know right, it's actually really nice to just watch and relax while reading some tips on a loading screen, I sometimes like waiting for some reason, and when things get too fast, I rush, again, for some reason
@@mr.aizawa5257 A lot of people who have a lot of media to store tend to choose a smaller SSD for their boot drive which allows for fast boots, fast frequent program starts and fast game loads for games stored there. Other media like other games, movies, etc are stored on the slower large HDD
@@vista9434 since I draw digital art, I needed a lot of file space for fairly cheap. For what I do, I felt the ssd was unnecessary, because it would barely take advantage of that faster ssd speed.
@@mr.aizawa5257 I do a lot of VM work as a hobby on my computer which requires stupid amounts of space (as you're basically emulating another computer inside your computer) though I still benefit from having an SSD as my boot drive (while having a 3TB internal storage HDD along with my network-attached storage) as I can hop onto my desktop or laptop quicker and not have to wait around for my programs to open. Laptops also benefit from longer battery run times as SSDs use less power than an HDD. Once you go SSD as your boot, you really don't want to go back
haha yes, at least the model I had in my laptop was super slow. I actually read up on that model and it seemed to be a common issue with poor performance. I actually just put in a Samsung 750 and it is very impressive with its responsiveness. I find it seems to be performing better than my 840 I bought years ago for my desktop.
i just bought and now waiting for my new laptop, it has a 1TB SSHD 8GB SSD cache, i have taken my 256SSD out my old one and will add it,, . i will stick my software and a few games on the 256 but not sure if it's worth changing the OS?. as the specs. say it's on an *GB SSD cache anyway.. thanks
Just wanted to say thank you. This is a great real world presentation on the differences between the 3 drives. Lots of people in the comments obviously didn't get the point of this video. Cheers man and thanks for the time you spent setting this up. One question. Did you use a kvm
I have one myself and the first boot times were about the same as my last hard drive (seagate barracuda) but after a few weeks of boots it its quite fast still not fast as an ssd but pretty close, now ssd prices are way cheaper so a hybrid is pointless now, you can get a 500gb samsung 850 evo for $150 now, thats enough space to get most people by. or you can go the mainstream route and get a 250 gig 850 evo for $75 for a boot drive and use your current hard drive lol
yea to me its not worth it now. if you install your os and have some small programs such as web browsers, everything becomes much more responsive because there is a much faster reads and writes for everything on the drive rather than a faster boot time which my pc is running mostly 24/7. if you save a little more for a 500gb ssd, even a lesser quality ssd of the 850 evo something like an Adata 512gb going for $120 will outperform a hybrid even in boot times not to mention indexing and accessing files. Its really just my opinion though and I know some people don't really mind having a mechanical drive and yea mechanical and hybrid drives are a really good value.
HDD: slow but good number of size Hybrid: Slightly faster than HDD. much slightly expensive than HDD SSD: Faster than all Hard Drives. good luck with the price.
Yeah, an SSD will usually have a longer lifespan unless you're a business that constantly writes to it. SSDs usually only die because of hitting their write limit and that's usually not for a very long time.
Kellin Quinn my first ssd die after 1 year and few month, my secont ssd die after 2 years my 7200 hd never die and is still in use for more than 5 years. Ssd is just useless.
Cédric Yvon i had a ssd ADATA 32gb and it works about 1 year, the ssd are really fast but not trustable, i have hybrids right now and one ssd kingstone 120gb, will see how long it works
im sorry but those were not 3 seconds and even if they were, 3 seconds on absolutely everything really add up - especially if u are a tiltable gamer , those 3 secs might save your computer xD
+snowiblind Rightly so. I think it's hilarious how much longer the HDD takes to load. They're basically inferior to SSD's in every way except price. (for now)
+APPLBL00M consumer grade for sure. im running two 7 year old 10k WD velociraptors and they are faster than a single 600gb ssd. but... they were $300 each 7 years ago for the 300gb version.
wait that's a 5400 RPM HDD. who the fuck uses that in anything but older laptops? It should be redone with a 7200 RPM HDD. that's what most of us Desktop users are going to have and use. I know the SSD will cream it but still
40 seconds, everyday, lets say for 3 years = 730hours, that's 30.41 days of waiting. If you work, how much money could you make in 730 hours? Could you have used a tiny portion of that money towards a higher priced SSD? I'd hope so. :)
No, that's not how math works. It's 730 minutes, which is 12.17 hours, which is around half a day. Not even close. (40*365*3 = 43800 => 43800/60 = 730 minutes => 730/60 = 12.17 hours)
Be careful! If you write to an SSD a lot it can die pretty quickly too! Bear that in mind. SSDs should be used for reading operations mostly, such as an OS installation, some games (a big deal of them don't really benefit from an SSD) and software in general. For massive storage that you won't really access all the time (movies, music, videos), the HDD is still the way to go. What you could do is configure an SSD to cache a HDD with intel SRT to create a hybrid drive with all the performance of your SSD with as much storage as you want from the HDD. Sounded like a pretty interesting solution to me. I still want to do some more research on all this, and if it's generally better to use an SSD and a HDD separately, if it's better to cache the HDD with the SSD, if it's better to do both or just buy an SSHD. Since I currently have money for neither of those options, I'm not really worried. Hahahah. But it is nice to learn new stuff.
the time the SSD saves you now, you spent later in fixing all your lost work, because it decided to be 8MB large or simply not read properly anymore. SSD's are awesome, as long as they work. Dont put them into hybernation and DONT EVER cut the power abruptly or you pay for it dearly. SSD's are tough when you "baby" them.
Gotta say, after owning and using a Crucial MX100 CT512 for 6 months, and having (on multiple occasions) cut power to the PC, nothing bad has happened to the drive or the operating system installed on it... SSDs are getting incredibly reliable for the day-to-day demands of even enthusiasts, and not having to wait a whole solid minute before the login screen /even shows up/ (not to mention the many minutes after you login waiting for the system files to load) really does add up over the years you're going to be using that thing. I'm sorry sir, but I disagree with you on your assessment.
LimitAtInfinity Well, not to be rude, but 6 months is not enough to give you the baseline to an opinion. I have owned SSD's over years and I have gone through half a dozen. The last one that broke indeed lasted 2 years and was a crucial SSD. There are VERY reliable SSD's, yes. But the same thing applies to all of them. POWER the PC down properly, don't cut the power. Hibernation is fixed afaik. My Laptop is 3 years old with an SSD in it and it works 99% great. I own almost 2 dozen HDs and only one ever failed me....in 15 years.... . So yeah HD's still out last SSD's. All I am saying, don't trust your most important data to them. Booting and OS operations are bad ass.
abirneji yes, don't hold the power button to shut the PC or laptop off, don't take the power off or you WILL hurt the SSD. Sleep mode is fine. All manufacturers have fixed their SSD's afaik.
oBseSsIoNPC well I doubt Ill need to since it turns off so fast but sometimes it crashes mid update for me But other than that I have heard forcing it to shut down but holding the power button or removing the plug is worse for a HDD That and I have to force it to shut down when I get blue screen of death Cant figure out how to fix that
still better to get a 120gb ssd for OS and HDD for storage imho. No point getting hybrid, if budget is the concern. I rather get a cheap/small ssd, than a hybrid. If I want storage, I'll buy the cheaper HDD
batabatonica 'Hybrid' in this instance refers to the hybrid-drives, which uses HDD primarily for storage, and caches the most-accessed files onto a smaller (8-32GB) SSD partition. So not really.
SSD is definitely more convenient, but I like to boot up and use my old laptop once in a while because I like the sound of the HDD. I remember in like 4th grade I would always do research on the desktops that were shut down, just to turn them on and listen to the drive spinning up. Anyone else relate or am I just special...?
Theese SSHD are good. If you have an Notebook with only one 2,5"HDD slot and you don't want to pay 350€ for 1000GB. Many users need much capacity. An 1TB SSHD is around 70-80€ in Germany. If you have 2 slots buy and 64GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. Its way better.
good solutions for laptops is to get a small ssd - lets say 100gb ssd and use it for working programs & windows, as primary hard drive. If you need more space, i suggest getting rid of optical drive (get an optical bay) and mount your HDD there. In this way, you wont spend a lot of money on ssd and you still will have old hdd for storage :)
5 years later and this video is still the best to show someone who wants to know the differences.
:')
yeah lol
@@TheUgster iam also watching
Kek
Yeah
SSD:- Let me show how fast I am.
Hybrid:- I am the average.
HDD:- Let me show Windows boot animation.
Agreee
Restarting...
SSD: *Skipped start animation*
*DAMMIT*
and the worst part is when you get infected by a virus. youcant react fast enough to remove it due to the speed of the ssd
LOL
so the start animation was created for HDD only
@@chrissmith1152 you bet
that got me too!
SSD and Hybrid: *Skip Windows animation*
HDD: Fine, I'll do it myself.
Hybrid: what are we?
SSD: storage parts
Hybrid: why are we here?
SSD: to load things
HDD: storage parts
Change your profile picture you idiot
It almost matches the white area of the TH-cam
Deepak k stfu turn on dark mode you dumbass
@@ulqqrd i am using PC
@@hellothere2764 and same for you
@@deepakk1347 you can use dark mode on pc too
After 7 years u are getting recommended.
Same
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Mast joke mara
True
SDD: ez
Hybrid: gg wp
HDD: hacks bad map lag
Lol
:D
Ahhh yes the sdd
LMAO
:))>))
Obviously the hdd is slower in the video, it's because it's got speakers on the monitor in the front weighing it down!
Lol indeed
Yeah i agree. that's totally unfair man!
Candi Soda being a network engineer for 21 years, I used to tell people not to turn their computers on its side or the data would drain out. Same thing with the monitor, the color would drain out. I was actually shocked how many people actually believed me to. The best was when someone complained that the printer said the toner was low & they didn't know how to fix it. I said it means you need to put the printer higher on the desk.
+Magestic lol
Candi Soda some real trump logic right there
SSD & Hybrid: Skips Starting Windows Screen
HDD: THAT'S CHEATING!
Hahahahahahaha
XD
Yes
@Crispy Beats idiot
@@itzzawesome5411 get out
i like the blink of the eye boot up... think ill keep mine
4 tb ssd would be enough
get an os drive to store your system in
@@MohitSharma-so9st yea 4TB ssd that costs 1100$ would be enough
@@MohitSharma-so9st yea, cause everyone got 1000$ to waste on drives. Like with that money you could get a pc. (not now because of the shortages but still)
@@user-df3ty8ei2u you can just buy used and piece it together.
This is from 4 years ago and Ugster is still Hearting people's comments 🧐.
Haven Elias-Branca because he only just got online with the HDD machine ;)
Christopher Thake 😂😂😂😂
Now 6 years
Yeah
Hello, im from the future and everyone use SSD
HDD is best for an office. You have time to make yourself a coffee in the lunchroom while it's booting up 😂. Not even kidding, that's my daily.
Lol, can't u make a cup of coffee, and then turn PC on SSD on? Wtf, logic
@@ac9h482 its also a good valid reason why you slacking at work for you boss:))))
LOL that’s literally every teacher
Yeah. But if you remove the HDD, will your machine still generate enough heat to fry the eggs?
Асян Some people just don’t get jokes. Whoosh. Moron.
Once you use a SSD you can never go back to a HDD
Thats true
U r telling right bro
True!!
SO, if you haven't got money you can buy a HDD and get thinking about nothing))))
Unless your previous SSD suddenly bricked ...
SSD too op pls nerf
lol
Now that Hybrid and HDD are too Salty because of it lol
rofl
+Keaton Knippel just try not to reright stuff on your ssd to much or it will star to fail and get errors
RIDE_ THE_LIGHTNING 117 so, if i have my os and occasionally put games on my ssd will it perform any good
The thumbnail with the Hard drive "please wait" had me laughing so hard 😂
So then it's settled. SSD for the OS and Hybrid for everything else because 2TB of SSD is car-priced.
lol....
lmao
Why would you need 2TB SSD?
yeah, nothing like putting a thousand dollar hard drive into a $250 machine
stupid question these days lol
after 20 years they finally figured the weak link... it wasn't RAM or CPU like we always were told
That Sir, is the truth. Maybe they knew for so long, but because of marketing and economics, they played with us... :(
And the price was expensive too
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case you're not, here goes!
Replacing the hdd on an older computer really won't do as much for you, because the rest of the system still can't process the information quickly, no matter how quickly the hard drive(whatever kind it is) can deliver it. SSDs are important nowadays, because the rest of the system can handle data significantly faster than HDDs can hand it out, modern SSDs are now significantly faster than the computers that house them, with the only advances now being capacity and durability.
Also, the speed of your programs, once launched, will still be limited to the number crunching power of your CPU, they'll just be launched much faster with an SSD.
The SIZE of all running programs will still be limited by your amount of RAM(RAM speed has surprisingly little effect on pc performance), you'll just be able to populate that RAM with data much more quickly from an SSD.
Smoothness of visuals will still be limited by the power of your graphics and central processors, but games and videos will launch, load, and save much more quickly with an SSD.
There's a LOT more to it than, "the industry has been screwing us for years".
That's not really true at all. Many old laptops had incredibly slow 5400RPM or lower HDDs and replacement with an SSD can breathe new life into them. Old desktops also had slower HDDs, MUCH slower when it comes to non-sequential access, like an order of magnitude slower.
Today is not like 15 years ago. Ten years ago Intel released Core 2 Duo and practically any dual core processor based system, besides the ultra low power variants used in low end mobile computing, are going to benefit from a modern SSD, providing they at least have SATA even if it's SATA I, or have a multi-lane PCIe SATA controller card added if PCIe 1.
As for the speed of your programs, most things done on the typical PC besides gaming or video encoding, do not put much of a load on the CPU. The average 10 year old system probably averages under 10% CPU utilization, let alone something newer. Granted that is only an average but for momentary purposes it only needs to keep up with realtime activities like video playback, something that's been offloaded to GPU for around 10 years too if you ignore the sluggish intel integrated video from a few years past.
It is true that the industry hasn't been screwing us for years. For years there were SSD available already, but we had to wait for SATA standards to mature to be fast enough, for flash chip process size to shrink again and again to bring capacity down to an affordable level, and for SSD controller tech to mature.
Yeah, we're on the same page about most of this I think. I'd estimate that the average pc made before about year 2005 won't show any significant difference between a MODERN HDD and a top of the line SSD though(which was my original point).
Your CPU load estimates are pretty inacurate I'd say, considering that Core2 CPUs came out in 2006, and the very best of those are rapidly approaching unusability with modern programs, spending the majority of their time above 50% load with anything more taxing than checking email and Craigslist(I know a lot of old people).
A decent modern PC with that old 5400RPM HDD will be WORLDS more useful than a 2006 PC, with a dual-core, 4GB of DDR2, a GeForce 6600 GT and the worlds fastest modern SSD.
1:46 SSD & Hybrid didn't complete the windows animation that's illegal right?
why?
確かにそうで草
イレギュラーだよ
そして英語に敢えて日本語で返してる俺草
And I dare to return to English and I can laugh at me
yes, that’s why I still using HDD
My HDD takes so long to do things that sometimes I forget what I was going to do there
Kakashi Hatake lmao
ha haa.
Lol
I think mines slower
I'd rather you'd buy some more RAM or an SSD because their write speeds are faster than ever and their SOOOO cheap nowadays but If you don't want to just install Avast or any other antivirus they remove crap from your computer so you can stick with a HDD
Wow, something that actually helped me truly understand the difference between an SSD and am SSHD in speed. Thanks!
CPU: load windows.exe for m...
SSD: Yes
Haha, thats so true :D
SSD : I'm speed...
HDD:whaaat?
HDD = Internet Explorer
+kowaletzki its not really lol
***** 7200 rpm can be fast for games but not booting
+anson huang Chrome is shit lol
+anson huang lol :)
Luis Torres
Chrome has been proven to be slower than IE, and Chrome eats your RAM like bread.
SSD, HYBRID and PLEASE WAIT
This is how information on youtube should be provided. Others are talking trash
I kind of felt embarrassed for the HDD, it was like watching a boxer way past his prime. LOL
T but still , let's not forget it's past glory hehe
Leonard Fair ........ What?
Leonard Fair It's still used now days tho
great analogy
those monitors gave me cancer
MMmg
*****
No it can't. There is no research to back that up.
*****
Cbd hemp oil can not and does not cure cancer.
*****
canibus oil doesn't cure cancer. There is noo proof.
***** I think im cured. although i sold my wife to buy the oil
6 years and im still waiting for the hdd computer to boot :,)
I want HDD, bcz I can see the windows logo there fully at boot!!
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HDD is best
I like both HDDs and SSDs
lol
Haaaa...lol.
Thanks for this comparative demonstration.
its good
ThomasGrillo اتغابوالتى
"Going as fast as light only leaves you in darkness"
-SDD & Hybrid 1:47
hybrid is not bad..
+Fazree Said ssds are too expensive.
I just missed a second hand 1tb kingston ssd for 200$ T-T didnt have the money on hand and it was gone .
My point is , you can find the cheap if you are lucky .
Agreed! The cost for $:GB now is tremendously lower than just a couple years back. I just bought a 1TB SSD yesterday for $275(CAD) and the difference in speed over traditional HDD is game-changing. Very satisfied and would encourage others to consider even "Lower-end" consumer SSD to upgrade your rigs.
***** Probably second hand . As I said , I missed one too because i didnt have the money on hand ...
+HSD112 I got it from Canada Computers. If you're in Canada as well there's likely a store somewhere nearby to grab one at the current "sale" price until July 7. Here's a link m.canadacomputers.com/mobile/itemid/091859
There are also similar performance SSDs in a comparable price range. If you can't get to Canada computers to pick one up I'm confident Amazon also has them available for the same pricing.
Hope that helps
HDD = 2G
Hybrid = 3G
SSD = 4G (LTE).
😀 LOL
I'm on 2G. Pfft
Dody. T Wibowo i gree for u
Dody. T Wibowo and optane is 4g+
94KoolAid You must be friggin kiddin *facepalm*
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HDD let's you look into all the animations. I mean just look at the windows logo, how can anyone skip this piece of art😔
I think the best is use a ssd to run everything and a hdd for storage only.
+XxBigDAWG22xX I second that. I am adopting that same solution.
+XxBigDAWG22xX
M.2 slot for your Windows - a lot faster than the regular SATA connector
SATA express (16Gbit) for your SSHD - Not as fast as the M.2 ssd, but a LOT faster than the regular HDD even the 10 000rpm
+XxBigDAWG22xX but an ssd is too expensive for some so the solution is hybrids so boot os is in NAND flash and the others are in your hard drive
yeah thats what i do im pretty happy with it. but only people with some knowledge should do that because you often have to change the paths when installing programs or downloading stuff
+TheBigchekka you call that knowledge LMFAO
SSD>HDD Really loved the sock review, happy I now know about hard drives in my computer majig.
aceinthehole472 l
ssd is way more expensive tho. i bought a 1tb hdd and i could have bought a 256gb ssd for the same price. not worth the extra speed in my opinion
Faheem Iqbal yes it is worth I don't wanna wait 20 minutes for a file transfer
65 gb ssd to low space kapaciti no usable.
Min 256 gb usable.
SSD has higher speed but less storage
HDD has low speed but much more bigger storage
Hybrid is expensive
Everything is balanced lol😂
This is almost 5 years old and you are still hearting comments and why does this have 35 like thx people
I have a lot of heart to give.
TheUgster the man himself!
@@TheUgster This is one year old but oh my god I did not expect this to be so wholesome.
@@omarabdelkadereldarir7458 You're wholesome.
@@TheUgster
Pretty impressed by the hybrid drive, it's not a bad little bit of kit. Normal day to day use, it's great idea if you're building a budget pc but need the space.
SSD: *skips loading screen*
HDD: *Loads the loading screen*
Hmm
SSD- Chrome
Hybrid- Microsoft Edge
HDD- Internet Explorer
Enderboy true
@EclipseTrips The new Microsoft Edge sucks as it is available only on one platform as far as I know and it's getting too much attention it doesn't need
@EclipseTrips Falkon is also an ugly (on Windows only) browser and faster browser than Chrome, so what?
@EclipseTrips If you are talking about Falkon, the screenshots are from Linux
SSD - Opera GX
Hybrid - Chrome
HDD - Internet Explorer
6 years later and this video is still the best to show someone who wants to know the differences.
I like HDD because I can annoy my brother by ""accidentally"" shutting down when it's his turn on the computer
400 iQ
Oh my
I don't recommend doing that for the sake of your COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!
Ohhhhhhhh myyyyyyyy goddddddddd
Chaotic evil
6 years later and this video is still the best to show someone who wants to know the differences. I sent this video Who wants to change laptop's disk to ssd.
Having used an hybrid for about 2 years now, I can confirm that it doesn't make much difference. Those computers in the video are freshly formatted with Windows probably not even updated. After a couple months of normal use, it gets much slower (5+ min to boot and be able to do something with the computer) where with an SSD, the boot is still less than 30 seconds.
Make sure to do a cache clean and defrag your hd and it will be like new
@@alexanderr6474 Defrag doesn't do much since Windows Vista. The fragmentation level stays around 2-3%.
Seems to me the hybrid is only slightly slower then the ssd for the price it seems thats the way to go because you can get a lot more storage for a lower price.
+cjhan47 Agreed.
+Littlefabio Hybrid I believe is always the best option unless you are completely comp.. clumsy! I mean then you wouldn't need the faster flash memory of the hybrid anyway if that was the case. This is a bit old, and the RPM of the HDD is 5400RPM which is average but there are 7200s which go fair bit faster... That being said with 16Mb cache which is actually quite good it helps speed things along, especially ONCE IT GETS RUNNING. Having high cache and a 7200 RPM is still quite good especially if there is no option for a custom made laptop like in my case since I only have 5 - 6 Business days left before I leave... or if custom made is too pricey...
Man, it only boots fasters. On a SSD, also your Programms and EVERYTHING will open faster, your PC will be much more responsive.
I wouldn't need a hybrid because i have a 3tb 170mb/s hdd and a 1tb 850 evo. With rapid mode to 4900 mb/s. Great ssd
+Robert Shuste I don't think you understand that some people can't afford a SSD
The one advantage of HDDs is that I can actually read the tips on the loading screens.
I wouldn't mind the speed though
I know right, it's actually really nice to just watch and relax while reading some tips on a loading screen, I sometimes like waiting for some reason, and when things get too fast, I rush, again, for some reason
Most people overlook you can get more storage space for cheaper when goin HDD
@@mr.aizawa5257 A lot of people who have a lot of media to store tend to choose a smaller SSD for their boot drive which allows for fast boots, fast frequent program starts and fast game loads for games stored there. Other media like other games, movies, etc are stored on the slower large HDD
@@vista9434 since I draw digital art, I needed a lot of file space for fairly cheap. For what I do, I felt the ssd was unnecessary, because it would barely take advantage of that faster ssd speed.
@@mr.aizawa5257 I do a lot of VM work as a hobby on my computer which requires stupid amounts of space (as you're basically emulating another computer inside your computer) though I still benefit from having an SSD as my boot drive (while having a 3TB internal storage HDD along with my network-attached storage) as I can hop onto my desktop or laptop quicker and not have to wait around for my programs to open. Laptops also benefit from longer battery run times as SSDs use less power than an HDD.
Once you go SSD as your boot, you really don't want to go back
if you were using a hitachi hard drive, the HDD computer would still be booting till this very day
Andrew Whitburn
Are they really THAT slow?
haha yes, at least the model I had in my laptop was super slow. I actually read up on that model and it seemed to be a common issue with poor performance. I actually just put in a Samsung 750 and it is very impressive with its responsiveness. I find it seems to be performing better than my 840 I bought years ago for my desktop.
Andrew Whitburn
Yikes 😮
i got 2TB hitachi and its fast as hell with i7
Hitachi are probably the worst brand of hard drive, ever!
OK that settles it! If you're low on cash, then get the Hybrid SSHD.
Eh, that depends. A 240GB SSD costs less than a 1TB SSHD, so people who don't really use massive storage will benefit from a 240GB SSD.
I have ~314 GB of storage being used so that clearly doesn't apply to me.
will do you prefer me to get a 2 tb sshd better than 500 gb ssd ??
+Jordan Brown you can always get a 2ND one when you need it
i just bought and now waiting for my new laptop, it has a 1TB SSHD 8GB SSD cache, i have taken my 256SSD out my old one and will add it,, . i will stick my software and a few games on the 256 but not sure if it's worth changing the OS?. as the specs. say it's on an *GB SSD cache anyway.. thanks
almost 7 years later this is still the best video to see deference.
Just wanted to say thank you. This is a great real world presentation on the differences between the 3 drives. Lots of people in the comments obviously didn't get the point of this video. Cheers man and thanks for the time you spent setting this up.
One question. Did you use a kvm
After more runs on the SSHD though it caches the info and is gets faster from then on
Correct
OH! Really? Interesting. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.
I have one myself and the first boot times were about the same as my last hard drive (seagate barracuda) but after a few weeks of boots it its quite fast still not fast as an ssd but pretty close, now ssd prices are way cheaper so a hybrid is pointless now, you can get a 500gb samsung 850 evo for $150 now, thats enough space to get most people by. or you can go the mainstream route and get a 250 gig 850 evo for $75 for a boot drive and use your current hard drive lol
Amadax You can get a 1Tb SSHD off the internet for as cheap as 60 to 80 bucks. So that's not a bad deal either.
yea to me its not worth it now. if you install your os and have some small programs such as web browsers, everything becomes much more responsive because there is a much faster reads and writes for everything on the drive rather than a faster boot time which my pc is running mostly 24/7. if you save a little more for a 500gb ssd, even a lesser quality ssd of the 850 evo something like an Adata 512gb going for $120 will outperform a hybrid even in boot times not to mention indexing and accessing files. Its really just my opinion though and I know some people don't really mind having a mechanical drive and yea mechanical and hybrid drives are a really good value.
HDD: slow but good number of size
Hybrid: Slightly faster than HDD. much slightly expensive than HDD
SSD: Faster than all Hard Drives. good luck with the price.
128gb ssd for 20$
It's funny coz this comment will just be more and more wrong as years go by.
As fabrication for these get cheaper generally SSD's nowerdays are very affordable compared 5 years back.
@@quackmeister69 come to the 3rd world and say the same lol
I would much rather save up my money for an SSD than to waste money on a slow HDD
1rd: SDD
2rd:
3rd:
Sergio lefilaf sabja I get the joke
+DutchRedGamingixj
haha
Sergio lefilaf sabja 1ST ;)
Sergio FLS 4rd, 5rd, 6rd, 7rd... 36rd...
Atleast, HDD respects Start Animations. XD
i just installed a 1tb WD Blue SSD and wow the difference is AMAZING!
well, hdd might not be the fastest but it will get the job done, slowly but surely, its like a veteran who dont want to give up and keep fighting :')
Not surely, SSD have more time before it starts to get errors and the HDD has to defragmentate.
Sm00th TV I only trust hdds for about six years.
Yeah, an SSD will usually have a longer lifespan unless you're a business that constantly writes to it. SSDs usually only die because of hitting their write limit and that's usually not for a very long time.
Kellin Quinn my first ssd die after 1 year and few month, my secont ssd die after 2 years my 7200 hd never die and is still in use for more than 5 years. Ssd is just useless.
Cédric Yvon i had a ssd ADATA 32gb and it works about 1 year, the ssd are really fast but not trustable, i have hybrids right now and one ssd kingstone 120gb, will see how long it works
I hate my HDD :(
.....on no! wait, do you think it was listening!!?...I didn't mean it baby..I love you
Ameya S I can imagine you got bluescreen or something as you wrote this XD :D
+Ameya S Probably couldn't hear you over the spinning discs wrrrrrrr
HDD: "Please don't forget your data !"
Ameya S
Ameya S how to know if my pc is hdd or ssd or hybrid
this is from 6 years before and the channel owner is still hearting comments
I can pee in the meantime.. while using HDD... 😏
Lol i have hdd
SSD is faster, but i will buy Hybrid, because you will have more memory for a little price, and you can not die for 3 seconds of loadding.
Lol
@@latifar9912 согласен с тобой, полный lol
Get a Kingston a400 and pair it with a better HDD for the best of both worlds
im sorry but those were not 3 seconds and even if they were, 3 seconds on absolutely everything really add up - especially if u are a tiltable gamer , those 3 secs might save your computer xD
SSD for the OS and Hybrid for everything else is the best Value/Money combo u can achieve I think
This is the type of video that we need.
HDD 5400 rpm vs SSD ...
a very neutral test
The category is comedy -_-
Isn't it funny 😂 .... Ohh well ... Bye
+snowiblind Rightly so. I think it's hilarious how much longer the HDD takes to load. They're basically inferior to SSD's in every way except price. (for now)
lol 27 likes
APPLBL00M wait wat lol
+APPLBL00M consumer grade for sure. im running two 7 year old 10k WD velociraptors and they are faster than a single 600gb ssd. but... they were $300 each 7 years ago for the 300gb version.
6 years and he's still hearting comments!
This is literally gold . Straight to the point , I like that ! :D
This really shows you how fast SSD’s have become
PC: What are you?
SSD: An SSD!
PC: And what do you do?
SSD: Store things!
HDD: A hard drive!
SSD is so fast it doesn't even show the startup animation lol
Its splash screen.
@@LiegeMaximo he's referring to the windows 7 startup animation, or maybe you are making a joke
@@obtusecassierole5335 its technical name is splash screen. The startup animation is called the splash screen.
@@LiegeMaximo windows 7 startup animation or dell splash screen
@@obtusecassierole5335 ah my bad, the companies logo is splash screen, win 7 logo animation is bootanimation. My mistake 😅
only good thing about hdd is if you have a modded boot screen you can watch your custom logo loop
I hope this video stays for 10 years more, I want to show it to my kids too
wait that's a 5400 RPM HDD. who the fuck uses that in anything but older laptops? It should be redone with a 7200 RPM HDD. that's what most of us Desktop users are going to have and use. I know the SSD will cream it but still
+njdevil281 because it's a IMAc
njdevil281 that's sad, yet doesn't surprise me. it's Apple
+Anthony Trifoglio True...but it has a 16MB cache.
Panglos oh in that case that 16 mb cache is worth the extra $1000-$2000
+Anthony Trifoglio Around $100 per MB sounds about right.
How many MB are there in a TB?
Ah the good days when windows 7 would skip the startup animation when you have an SSD
My brain doing maths: hdd
My brain while reading: fusion drive
My brain while playing chess: ssd
My brain in smash bros: nvme m.2 ssd
TH-cam recommend me after 5 year
And still i am waching 😊 to know difference
Still appearing in recommended , thanks TH-cam 🙏
This video was posted 6 years ago and you are still hearting the comments.
I can wait 40 seconds for a lower price
+P Meister Then you are not worthy...
jk idk XD
40 seconds, everyday, lets say for 3 years = 730hours, that's 30.41 days of waiting.
If you work, how much money could you make in 730 hours? Could you have used a tiny portion of that money towards a higher priced SSD? I'd hope so. :)
No, that's not how math works. It's 730 minutes, which is 12.17 hours, which is around half a day. Not even close.
(40*365*3 = 43800 => 43800/60 = 730 minutes => 730/60 = 12.17 hours)
Oh damn, you're right. Math fail :P Still saved some time :P
hhhh me too
That's a really good demo. Life's too short for HDDs - gimmee the silicon!
Be careful! If you write to an SSD a lot it can die pretty quickly too!
Bear that in mind. SSDs should be used for reading operations mostly, such as an OS installation, some games (a big deal of them don't really benefit from an SSD) and software in general. For massive storage that you won't really access all the time (movies, music, videos), the HDD is still the way to go.
What you could do is configure an SSD to cache a HDD with intel SRT to create a hybrid drive with all the performance of your SSD with as much storage as you want from the HDD. Sounded like a pretty interesting solution to me.
I still want to do some more research on all this, and if it's generally better to use an SSD and a HDD separately, if it's better to cache the HDD with the SSD, if it's better to do both or just buy an SSHD.
Since I currently have money for neither of those options, I'm not really worried. Hahahah. But it is nice to learn new stuff.
Microsoft built that loading logo for HDDs... Only way to see the entire animation
the time the SSD saves you now, you spent later in fixing all your lost work, because it decided to be 8MB large or simply not read properly anymore. SSD's are awesome, as long as they work. Dont put them into hybernation and DONT EVER cut the power abruptly or you pay for it dearly. SSD's are tough when you "baby" them.
oBseSsIoNPC wait don't cut the power abruptly?
what happens
and my pc doesnt even have hybernation mode (it doesnt work) and what about sleep mode
Gotta say, after owning and using a Crucial MX100 CT512 for 6 months, and having (on multiple occasions) cut power to the PC, nothing bad has happened to the drive or the operating system installed on it... SSDs are getting incredibly reliable for the day-to-day demands of even enthusiasts, and not having to wait a whole solid minute before the login screen /even shows up/ (not to mention the many minutes after you login waiting for the system files to load) really does add up over the years you're going to be using that thing.
I'm sorry sir, but I disagree with you on your assessment.
LimitAtInfinity Well, not to be rude, but 6 months is not enough to give you the baseline to an opinion. I have owned SSD's over years and I have gone through half a dozen. The last one that broke indeed lasted 2 years and was a crucial SSD. There are VERY reliable SSD's, yes. But the same thing applies to all of them. POWER the PC down properly, don't cut the power. Hibernation is fixed afaik. My Laptop is 3 years old with an SSD in it and it works 99% great. I own almost 2 dozen HDs and only one ever failed me....in 15 years.... . So yeah HD's still out last SSD's.
All I am saying, don't trust your most important data to them. Booting and OS operations are bad ass.
abirneji yes, don't hold the power button to shut the PC or laptop off, don't take the power off or you WILL hurt the SSD. Sleep mode is fine. All manufacturers have fixed their SSD's afaik.
oBseSsIoNPC well I doubt Ill need to since it turns off so fast but sometimes it crashes mid update for me
But other than that
I have heard forcing it to shut down but holding the power button or removing the plug is worse for a HDD
That and I have to force it to shut down when I get blue screen of death
Cant figure out how to fix that
still better to get a 120gb ssd for OS and HDD for storage imho. No point getting hybrid, if budget is the concern. I rather get a cheap/small ssd, than a hybrid. If I want storage, I'll buy the cheaper HDD
Unless you're dealing with a laptop, pre-M.2. With only one space available for a drive, a hybrid is certainly an up if you can't afford SSD prices.
You know having ssd for os and hdd for storage means hybrid right?
batabatonica 'Hybrid' in this instance refers to the hybrid-drives, which uses HDD primarily for storage, and caches the most-accessed files onto a smaller (8-32GB) SSD partition.
So not really.
SSD is definitely more convenient, but I like to boot up and use my old laptop once in a while because I like the sound of the HDD.
I remember in like 4th grade I would always do research on the desktops that were shut down, just to turn them on and listen to the drive spinning up. Anyone else relate or am I just special...?
The Hybrid is more like an SSD than a HDD. It's good! :)
It's like SSD + HDD
Yaa
Good speed +more storage
SSD and SSHD: Skips "Starting Windows" animation
Wait. Thats illegal.
*ILLEGAL CONTENT HAS BEEN DETECTED*
*FBI OPEN THE DOOR!!!!*
6m views and only 40k likes man this dude deserves more appreciation
This video changed my mind. Now I must switch my laptop HDD to SSD for saving great time.
What’d you mean? With hdd you too can save time by making a coffee while it loads
@@SpookaySpctr What will happen if we already made coffee and drank it. Do you mean we should make coffee another time for saving time?
Aravind SriKrishna yes =D
@@SpookaySpctr what'd you mean?
We can wacth a video with SSD when you drink a cofee
Sorry, bad English
Theese SSHD are good. If you have an Notebook with only one 2,5"HDD slot and you don't want to pay 350€ for 1000GB. Many users need much capacity. An 1TB SSHD is around 70-80€ in Germany. If you have 2 slots buy and 64GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. Its way better.
Yeah here in Aussie I can get a hybrid 2TB for only $40 on top of the $100, instead of a full SSD.
TheBelgiumeseKid Where did you find Hybrid 2TB for 40 bucks?
Luiz Wagner What I meant was that the hybrid costs $40 more than an equivalently sized HDD, $140
ah yeah, that's right lol
good solutions for laptops is to get a small ssd - lets say 100gb ssd and use it for working programs & windows, as primary hard drive. If you need more space, i suggest getting rid of optical drive (get an optical bay) and mount your HDD there. In this way, you wont spend a lot of money on ssd and you still will have old hdd for storage :)
Searched on Google for an explanation .... This was the 1st recommendation ..... worth it 👍🏻
Nice! I also use Crucial SSD, this time in 500 GB.
First Reboot:
SSD - 21 sec
Hybrid - 32 sec
HDD - 50 sec
my pc= 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 YEARS
@@resmenkemik6637 my pc (Windows 8.1 Pro x64): 1½ minutes wtf?
@@senpaidarken9410 r/woooooooosh
@Anditian Pranata ssd very op
Imagine watching this vid FROM 6 YEARS AGO and still having a HDD for your storage and low boot times
Me and my 10 minutes boot time:
HDD > Internet Explorer
Who watchs at 2019?
2020*
2:12 HDD be like: please wait for me SSD and Hybrid
Those 3k dislikes are from hdd users
1- M.2
2- SSD
3- Hybrid
4- HDD
1. NVME
2. SATA III
3. Hybrid
4. HDD
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1. M.2 NVMe SSD
2. M.2 Sata III SSD / 2.5 Sata III SSD
3. Hybrid Drive
4. HDD
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DGJM
3. SSHD
I prefer the SSD. It booted to the desktop way faster than the HDD before it.
"Why is internet Explorer slow?"
Me: it's complicated..
Internet explorer + Hdd would be 'awesome'
@@rsym.4397 i totally agree with you
@@rsym.4397 what the meaning of "aweosme"
@@MUHAMMADILYAS-pn7ym awesome*
@@Frin4901 typo
I ❤ HDD cuz I can eat and sleep while the HDD is loading.
Sleep lol
seeing video after 7 years later..
Love from Nepal 🇳🇵
basically hdd is the ineternet explorer of drives 😁😁