People really need to stop blaming coaches ! I’ve never seen as much coach changes as ever with this new generation. Serena Williams has only ever had 2 major coaches, as with Venus Williams (Venus maybe more but those were hitting partners). I don’t think running from one coach to another is going to solve the problem. Sometimes “YOU” might just be the problem. Ask Sakarri and Raducanu or even Rune how their experience has been.
aryna stuck with her team through 2022 when she was double faulting and crying on court. personal accountability is not there Iga and Sabelenka have had the same team for years
Well that's how it works in any sport. In NFL NBA NHL they fire the coach and bring in someone new and keep trying. But those are team sports where team coordination and strategy matters so coach has more impact. Tennis is an individual sport so I'm not sure if coach makes that much of a difference. They can only give pointers but the execution is up to the player.
Venus and Serena brought people on as consultants . They spent off time at various academies, taking lessons from other coaches, in off seasons. Rennae Stubbs, Bolliteri were the only ones that we knew of but Richard also consulted with people as well.
It’s 50/50. Brad needed to attack her flaws (Serve & Forehand) and with Coco she needs to get off of social media it’s messing with her mental health. She thinks she’s in control of it but she’s not
Now, I LOVE Coco, but I wholeheartedly agree with this. Between social media and relationships, while still developing.....uggghhhhh. Mental health vs social media is no joke. Many think they are in control, but affected big time...Just my observation as a therapist. It's frustrating!!!
@@IamTv24Really? She’s active on social media? Yeah, that’s not helpful. She’s a performer, so use it to promote your brand. But she shouldn’t be commenting on memes & arguing w/ trolls. She deserves to lose if she’s wasting possible improvement time, on that bullsh!t
We all knew it was over after Wimbledon. These celebrity managers are not long-term solutions for these top players; at the same time, she also holds a lot of the responsibility for not taking her game to the next level in 2024
I think once she lost US open to Emma Navarro with 19 double faults Brad Gilbert was toast! Players always clean house when they end up losing grand slams!!
Coco fans are not delusional. We're love coco for who she is. There will not be an other serena. Setena will always be the best ot the best for centuries. Media love to do that. Because she's a young talented precocious african American player. Apart the fact she's was a fan of serena this is the only comparison possible! And now you bring it on us 🙄
There is only one Serena and one Venus. BOTH are phenomenal under pressure and they oftentimes could rely on their serve to get them out of trouble. Coco, well she doesn't perform well under pressure, and ESPECIALLY if a call is missed. Then she's rattled the remainder of the match. Oh, and btw, Gilbert didn't hit 19 DFs. Coco kept doing the same 'stuff' and getting the same result. 🤦♂️
Rennae needs to try to coach Coco. I told her so. Her critiques are so spot on and she told Brad to his face on the desk. Regardless, she is never going to be Serena Williams, just Coco and at her best I'll roll with her.
Well said. She just really need to relax and enjoy tennis, saw her at the US Open and she was extremely stressed even at practice. Brad was there and never spoke to her even at practice but focus on ESPN. Not a good fit at this young age for her
Naomi is a great player but needs to add more variety. Just like Sabalenka, in the early years was just one dimensional. Now Sabalenka is unrecgonisable to former years with alot of variety. Naomi needs to add a slice to change up the pace now and again. With her powerful forehand she needs to use that to pick the spots down the line or cross court and sneak into net now and again to take a volley. Ive watched her game very closely and in my opinion, she gets tired if the point goes on too long and she doesn't dictate from the begining. Setting up the point at least once a game, to execute a volley would save her alot of energy, and over the course of a match hold onto that strength she needs to win a match
Iga wins slams with just a forehand and footwork, no variety is needed at all. Aryna is still behind Iga because of mentality. Sabalenka won US Open just standing at the baseline
@@deusexmachina9776 I don't think you was watching the same tournament tbh. Iga does what she does well, and executes her game. If Iga wanted to I'm sure she could come to net, but what she does is working right now but even Iga is looking to improve. Naomi needs to add something more.
@@MrLloyd214 chatgpt said she went to the net 30 times and stayed at the baseline 200 times so 15% - it is significant yes. but yeah if a player isnt mentally there no amount of variety will turn things around
I agree 1000th precent. BG and Patrick want to be seen. I never felt he was the right fit for Coco. I don't think Patrick will be for Osaka. I don't understand why the females don't give more women coaches a chances. I believe Renae Stubbs would be excellent coach alone with her previous coach.
Osaka would beat gauff now. Osaka's first and second round matches are consistently brutal, but that is the normal path for everyone unseeded. Got to persevere
Idk but I’m really excited with these new coaching changes. If something isn’t working.. fix it and BRAD AND WIM were not working out for both Coco and Naomi. I think fresh perspective for them both is so needed and I’ve never been more excited to see how they progress next season! Also look forward to who Rybakina adds to her team. Wonder who else is considering changing their team before 2025.. should make for an exciting new season 🔥
Wim was with osaka when she won 2 slams, he isnt the issue here. she goes through her issues and blames coach like before when she fired wim the first time
I watch the Us open this year and I think it's more in her head than anything else like the former reply was it's in and he needs to stop overthinking and just play the other thing is that she may not be the next Serena Williams she's not going to be a lot when I had to she needs to just be herself and play
@@deusexmachina9776 he kind of was though. her return technique was appalling this season and a glaring issue, and they didn’t work on it until us open…
@@aaron.y2k as a 4 time slam champion she herself should know about returns without a coach. how can u be sure the coach didnt tell her vs she chose not to listen? the return coming back after a humilating qualifying loss makes me think she was not listening
Great insights! I'm hoping Coco can find someone that can help her make progress, and that Naomi and Elena benefit from their new arrangements. I'm curious what you think about Iga's team. Iga won 5 slams working with Wiktorowski, do you think the current team can help her move forward? Or would she benefit from teaming up with someone with a fresh perspective?
Weird how Coco was serving pretty well under Brad Gilbert when she, you know, Won The US Open... Weird how all the sudden she gets the serving yips and that's the coaches fault.
@@deusexmachina9776 well that was an initial effect as Brad gave her trust in her shots and encouraged her to grind out wins. But ultimately she couldn't overcome her self-doubts.
Honeymoon phase plain & simple. See it all the time in tennis. Her best results came within a two-month period after hiring him. After that 2023 summer run, it was back to the same ol' mess. Her technique is horrible & was never fixed. After Gaffe won USO, the girls on tour, so insulted by that, have all made her pay in 2024.
The actuality is employees make decisions everyday around the world that cost employers their reputation and millions it took years building. So I get it . He feels responsible? It was his employee. Why isn’t Simone not suing Patrick🧐
It's the pressure of US tennis falling short in the big tournaments across the board for more than 15 years, without Serena and Venus no other pro US tennis players have really dominated the sport male or female. Billie Jean King and them shaking in their boots.
Gauff's serve is an issue, no matter the coach. She's got a technical issue with that particular shot. That needs to be addressed with all due haste. She really needs to do what Sabalenka did, and get herself a biomechanical specialist to help her.
New coach may help, but Gauff should look to Sabalenka and Zverev for inspiration. Both had serving "yips" for a long time, but persevered and came out better on the other side.
It was just a matter of time before the finger pointing started. Coco won a grand slam with Brad Gilbert, so something was going right. It was difficult to watch her struggle after winning the U.S. Open, and there's probably enough blame to go around. You have coaching both on and off the court, but a player still has to execute the game plan. In tough moments, it seemed like there was an unwillingness to change tactics and an overall inability to problem solve. I like Coco and hope she's able to turn it around. Looking forward to the 2025 season!
@@mervelynebiyonbakare6028 I agree Pere Riba should be credited as well for her U.S. Open win, he was part of that winning team. Gilbert was added because someone must have thought he had something valuable to add. It's unfortunate it didn't work out long term with either coach. I like Riba and think it was a good move for him to reunite with Zheng, you can see her improvement. I can hardly keep up with the coaching carousel, but I'll be watching.
BLAME the coach and not the player who is stubborn and doesn't listen?. Her parents and all the marketing doesn't help. Brad got her a grandslam. She let the hype go to her head . Half the game of Serena but much more hype.
Gilbert was wrong for Coco. He should have removed himself within six (6) months of their failings and faults. (sic) She did not continue to develop and grow during fourteen (14) months, with him as her head coach.
She was nothing until Gilbert became her coach she was all hype by announcers wanting the black female replacement for Serena. Well it won't happen she's into the commercial aspect of her career and play took a back seat. As long as she thinks she can just hit her way out of trouble she will never win another major been following her from day one it's her head and the celebrity that is her problem.
@@marionchaplin4584 it's evident that Pere RIBA was responsible for Gauff's success as evidenced by her regression once he left. Just look at Qinwen progress in the past year since RIBA went to work with her. Gilbert never had the solution in the first place
@@marionchaplin4584 I'm perplexed about Gauff hitting her way out of trouble as she the lesser of the heavy hitters on tour. If you said she relied on her athleticism to compensate , I would agree with you what I see is a girl whose technical difficulties should have been addressed before she came on tour. Her team has let her down from their lack of foresight in not realizing once she got into top 10 her weaknesses would be exploited
Number 1 junior from South Africa showed me tips on 2nd serve !Just that basic tip if heavily practiced by Coco would solve alot for her I think! Some her problems are technical I think!
Yeh I think the winning ugly philosophy can only work so far. It's true the best players do manage to win when not playing their best but you can't keep winning if having real technical issues. Coco is still very young though.. I am sure she'll work things out.
Brad had too many jobs. He was up at the desk commentating before and after her matches. Unprofessional. Riba probably left because Brad assured Gauff's Team he had all the answers, he didn't.
I'm glad Coco and Brad ended their coaching relationship. All I can think of is that 4th round Wimbledon match. Brad looked as if he saw a ghost when Coco was going through it. I was thinking they would split then. I want Stubbs or Davenport to coach Coco. Heck I'd even take Martina if she was willing. I wish Brad the best. As far as Naomi, chiiiiii Idk but I do want to see her win another slam. Thanks for the upload! 😊
Only time will tell, but the decision is the right one for Coco. My concern is that Coco is getting in her own way. Yes she is a talented young player, but talent can only get you so far without a solid foundation to work with/on. She needs to be honest with her mechanics inorder for any coaching to work. I miss Naomi si much but her problems are psychological not mechanical. The game would be much more exciting with both women flourishing.
Wasnt Fissett working with Zheng and left her to return to coaching Osaka when she returned from maternity leave? Serves him right! And Mouratogolou is a media who##
Yes, the serve is broken. Her racket speed is not fast enough for such extreme forehand grip. She is off balance and result in weak shots that put her on the defense immediately. She should change it because the forehand is technically flawed and a coaching change will not fix it.
Good move Coco. Solve technical performance issues around the serve. Naomi with great potential needs someone who knows how to align her thinking to see grand slam as normal to her future. After seeing the ESPN special on Serena, it appears to me that the level of excellence required from both coco and Naomi seems compromised by endorsements. Get down to work ladies.
Can’t blame coaches all the time. Coco is near to her best or peak and we will have to wait and see if she have it. Patrick is a business man and enjoyed the fame and money more than being a coach. But having saying that UTS is a breath of fresh air, good on him for making that happened.
Lets get back to specifics in regards to her winning the ooen first of alleverything fell in line .she got an easy draw until she met ostapenko who was exhausted from day prior no sleep .sabalenka happened to play subpar .i dont see her winning another slam .too many players coming up and currentbplayers better than her .
Brad Gilbert has an OVERBEARING personality. Eventually, in the cases of Agassi, Roddick, and Gauff, they couldn't take any more of him, and had to let him go.
Well, for people to think that you are supposed to win a slam or be in the top 10 after giving birth a year later is not realistic. Watching Naomi play tells me she still got it. My concern was that she was just going to show up and do a 9 to 5 work routine like some players and didn't care to go further. She looks fit and is playing more matches. However the mental confidence is still missing. Don't know if a carousel of coaches is the answer in addition to having to juggle her schedule. Am cheering for her, though.
Coco is only 20. Can’t blame Gilbert for all her recent problems. I think she’ll be fine. Osaka, however, is finished. Her game has not progressed one little bit since her first slam. She desperately wants to be Serena instead of being herself. She needs some mental health care. Patrick is a terrible coach.
I agree, the Gauff coach change is overdue. When I look at her play I see Andy Roddick and he only won 1 grand slam under Brad Gilbert (2003) US Open. And I know Coco does Not want to end up like that. However, Brad Gilbert is a good coach he just may not be right for Coco at this time. Andre Agassi won 6 grand slams wit him. I think Coco needs to change her game a little; come to the net more like Andre did. That baseline slugging it out is not working. Gauff is an awesome player she just needs the right coach. Take Jennifer Capriati when she got her act together and the right coach you couldn’t do nothing with her. She won 3 grand slams and beat Graf to win the gold medal in ‘92 Olympics. And Graf was not an easy opponent. Coco needs to weed out the noise and get better focus if she wants to win another grand slam.
Doesn't matter the coach, while on the court. Players really have to figure out how to win, when the game isn't working beautifully. Especially when you don't have weapons. I wish Coco the best going forward. Sounds like a mental and psychological concern. Gilbert is rough around the edges and you can't take anything personal. I thought he was a great fit, but I am not Coco. Time will tell. And with Naomi, I don't have any immediate thoughts. I was never a fan of Mouratogolou. But if it works for her, carry on!! 2025 Season will be very interesting indeed.
Good Luck COCO With Your Game And Whomever You Select As Your Coach. Also Get Your Psychological Sports Issues Addressed As Well. You're An Excellent Player When All Cylinders Are Performing And Running Well..I Know You Will Get Back To That!! ❤🎾🎾🎾
Does anyone else notice that folks in Coco’s box have mouratoglou academy gear on? Maybe it’s just coincidence? Patrick is a truly fascinating character…
I wouldn’t want a coach that sits on a panel after I lose a match and has to talk about my game before we able to talk about it together at the practice court. Good coach but bad conflict of interest
Osaka is over and out Osaka her dilmma is the love for the music man. You cannot combine top protennis with love affairs. You have to chose relation or tennis. You cannot have them both. Ask Assarenka.
I like Coco and Brad splitting. Maybe Sascha Bajin or Rennae Stubbs would be good for her. But I still ask WHAT has changed from just a year ago? It has to be burnout or something more. As for the Naomi/Patrick pairing, I can't call it. Lol. I'll just have to watch and see how this will unfold like everyone else. Rybakina is still needing a coach too. Its a lot going on! 😲🧐🎾
Nice to hear you speak more naturally rather than ripping through your script as fast as you can. Advice...either get a teleprompter so shots of you speaking on camera don't show you constantly sneaking looks at your script, or just stay off camera while speaking, unless what you're saying on camera can be said without obviously sneaking looks away from eye contact with your audience to read the script. And staying relaxed is good. Jamming your words together like you're rushing to get finished is awkward and off putting. Christian is knowledgeable. A more relaxed Christian is more confident and much easier to listen to. Thanks for filling a tennis news void.
Good analysis. I'd love to hear your thoughts on some good coaching fits for Coco and Naomi. 100% agree that Naomi continued to make the same types of mistakes re returns and lack of margin on her shots. I feel she'll rebound during the asian swing though.
I think Carlos Rodriguez is a good fit for coco , previous coach of henin and li na. Li na had a forehand and strategy problem so worked on that and her all court offensive skills. I think his coaching would further coco’s game
CoCo missed some “windows of opportunities” because of her earlier success. Ectomorphs, like Venus and CcCo should not dangle their racquets. Ectomorph danglers have serving issues and have to apologize for errant tosses. They will also have forehand issues if it doesn’t evolve as they grow. Otherwise, it will depended on perfect timing.
I felt she would get rid of Brad. He did all he would be able to do for her, last yr. Basically he got her career to the next level by pushing her to play around the deficiencies in her game & not dwell on changing her technique. That was the right move for Coco. Now she’ll have figure out a different focus, if she aspires to have Hall-of-Fame achievements
I don’t think Brad was a good fit for the team. He is clearly a great coach but the coaching relationship needs to have great chemistry and I believe that’s the challenge. All the players talk about the importance of having the right people around them. Coco is very coachable as is evident from her run last year. I just believe there were issues among the coaching staff that did not help Coco as she seems to internalize things. If things were good between her & BG I don’t think she would’ve continue to add people to her team. Btw, JC is her other coach who she brought on ahead of Roland Garros; again signaling that maybe there was an issue between her & BG. She’s always said he’s knowledgeable I just don’t think he was the right fit. Just take a look at the people who left her team once he got involved…do I think she will now bounce back?! That remains to be seen but having the right people around you can definitely help with the mentality both on and off court.
Not comfortable with people saying it was Brad that made her win all those tournaments when he came on board. That's very disrespectful to the coach she had in Pere Riba at that time who was amazing for Coco and Brad came in and assisted him. You can look at it as Pere then leaving not long after the US Open and ever since Coco not quite pushing onto better things with just Brad as her coach. Riba deserves all the credit for Coco winning the US Open, then she did a Emma Raducanu let the coach who took her to success go
Honestly they are putting too much pressure on her to be an all time great but maybe she is not and all time great but a great player. At 20 years old she has made it to 2 grand slam finals and won 🥇 one and has won many titles and ranked number 3 in the world. That’s not bad. If she wins 5-10 grand slams in her career it’s not bad it’s great actually which she can.
In what world is she ranked #3? you should keep up with tennis more. She's number 6 and that's with a tour where 80% have a problem staying healthy and/or motivated to play the entire year.
@@johnnythunder196 If you watch tennis like you said you would know she just became number 6 because she did not defend he US open points which dropped her. If you read what I said I read her accomplishments which she had been world number 3 since the Australian open this year when she made the semifinal. Presently being world number 6 and a 20 year old many have not even accomplished that.
@@clintinb5219 You finally realized she's #6....wow congratulations! She's #6 because of chronically soft draws & never sustaining an injury in 6+ years on tour (where 90% of the tour misses time each year due to physical injury or psychological issues) i.e. she plays in a very weak era. Navarro & Zheng are superior talents & will pass her soon. Frankly I don't expect her to regain a top 3 spot as other players with much higher ceilings like Diana S & Mirra A are improving rapidly & should be top 10 mainstays next season.
@@johnnythunder196I didn’t just realize she was number 6 I was stating what she has accomplished like reaching 2 grand slams and winning one and being world number three all at the age of 20, no matter what that is an accomplishment many have never achieved not to talk about a 20 year old, she just needs to keep improving. She turned pro at 14 years old 6 years ago so name me one person on tour at 14 dominating on tour presently? Like is about growth and improvement it’s up to her to put in the hard work like others on the tour, that’s a choice she must make on her own.
@@clintinb5219 You didn't realize something months in the making (she was never going to defend those 2000 USO points) yet you accuse me of not watching tennis "if you watch tennis like you said...."...I'll make sure to revisit this post and comment again when she's out of the top 10. Once she stops getting those first round byes every month her ranking should sink like a rock.
She needs to improve her first service and forehand. More agressive topspin at least like Iga. She must learn to anticipate and forget showtime hitting. Be practical and win forget the “Oh “ shots. First service must be 80 %. A good new coach might be Sasha Bejin imo
Her problem was having her parents as coaches we know how that worked out ask the Williams Sisters ask Donald Young not a good fit ask Tsitipas and Zerev. She won when she dropped her parents and she will never win because there are much better players now. Her entire game was sports media hype wanting the game of the Williams Sisters again well with this chick not going to happen.
Her major error is shot balls, especially from her forehand. Other parts of her game will improve - especially her serve. She is already a major star. One or two grandslams and a No.1 ranking, and she becomes a potential Hall of Famer.
I love what Kiki Mladenovic told Coco in her on court speech after she beat her and Jessica in the doubles finals in 2022. She said most players had come to Roland Garros and left without any trophy, but Coco was walking away with two. Stupid haters will call that a failure because they were both runner up trophys 🙄 Coco needs a coach who will give her confidence. She is an outstanding player, but the pressure of being great only multiplies with the more success you attain. Rennae Stubbs would be a good addition to Coco's team, but she also needs a psychologist to help her deal with the people who want to say she has a problem with her forehand - these people are quiet when she wins a 40 rally game, but lo and behold she misses a forehand and yep she has a problem, not withstanding the fact that every singles player that loses a match, which is 99% of players, loses it because they missed a forehand 💡
I'll be short and sweet. The coaching won't make a difference for either CoCo or Osaka it's not technically oriented but an internal psychology problem that needs to be resolved. If not then the merry-go-round will only continue throughout their playing careers. Randy
Frankly, I don’t know how serious is Osaka about her tennis comeback. I have a gut feeling that she came back to tennis to continue to grease the wheels of her endorsements train because that’s where the real money is. May be that train was starting to slow the farther away she got from tennis. She continues to smile when she loses as if to project a positive image.
Mourataglou and Osaka looks like a very promising partnership on paper. When you consider how he turned Serenas potential into major serial success and compare to Osakas ability, this could be very special. As much as i like Haleps tennis and her mentla strength, i don't feel like she is on the same level in what she can bring to a tennis match.
Gilbert isn’t really the problem. Coco herself has to be willing to fix the weaknesses in her game. She also likes to figure things out herself in her matches and doesn’t really want to listen when things are going wrong. Which then leads to her frustrations. And it’s time for her to focus more on singles. On the other hand, Osaka needs to start playing doubles so she can develop a net game. She won’t win just playing at the baseline.
Yes and Yes! They both made the right decision to change coaches. Brad Gilbert wasn't the answer for Coco. His recommendation that she ✋ playing doubles was terrible. Doubles is why she won the US Open last year. This year 19 double faults and 54 unforced errors in a match she still had a chance to win. Naomi Osaka needs a coach like Patrick someone who will teach her how to seal the deal for sets and matches. Perhaps he will convince her to play doubles to improve her net game. Naomi is playing good tennis but lacks the skill and confidence to close matches. I watched her hit 54 winners including 16 Aces in just 3 sets against the No. 1 player in the world who was playing at a high level hitting 37 winners herself. Although Naomi served for the match at 5-2 she lost the game and match going away! Losing 5 straight games.
I think coco guaff could work with Rick macci. He trained both Serena and Venus, when they were young and were developing technique. Technique is what coco needs. Coco’s forehand has too much air on it and I think Rick macci could help her, she’s young too so she has time still.
What we are forgetting players are employers and coaches employees. I believe it who the player connects with mentally at that level of the game. Osaka has won four glams if she doesn’t know who to play now she never will. She was out 18 month and had a baby. Her body has to adjust for that. And mental part of being world class athlete. Everybody just expecting her pick up where she left off isn’t realistic for herself or fans. You can get PTA coach and get results. It’s about the players being recipient. Like Gruff 19 double faults. That is mental to me. In junior tennis you learn get the second in and at least make them hit a winner. I don’t she her lose that bad for a comeback. Players got better while she was away. I believe she is trying too hard on and off the court!
I don't think it is anything to do with the coach. When payers go on the court, it is their responsibility to go out there and face their opponents...play what they practice on in the practice sessions... Gauff will be a one slam wonder... Gauff won that major title because Saba got overwhelmed by the crowd...😮😮😮
It’s not the Coach. It’s her refusal to change her serving motion. Please get her to Andy Roddick or Serena Williams so they can teach her the CORRECT way to serve. EVERY match this year, her serve let her down. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Brad Gilbert is a great Coach, but you have to LISTEN and change. Aryna Sabalenka had a TERRIBLE SERVE. She CHANGED how she was serving, and now she’s winning. Coco’s errors come from her knowing she can’t depend on her serve. It’s fixable, but she will need to relearn how to serve and not fall into bad habits when she is stressed.
In my humble view, Coco now plays like Wozniacki 2.0, so there are no weapons; she could be ok with tennis and be a top 15 for the next 10 years. She needs a technician coach to continue her progress. Finally, could somebody fix the forehand and go back to her 2 heavy kick serves and no more double faults. I do not think she will ever have a serve that will bail her out. Osaka is hitting great, but the field is more challenging, post and thanks to Serena the WTA players are learning how to redirect power with smaller strokes. The days that Osaka can just run over players are over, and she needs to learn how to earn points by outsmarting her opponents, something is not easy for her.
I don't think she'll remain in the top 15 if she stops receiving all of the "byes" she does. IOW If she falls out of the top 15 she'll have trouble getting back in.
man these coaches are being blamed for every single negative thing. and when the player does well, they always talk about how they work so hard and give the smallest credit to the coaches ☠️ these players need more accountability for their shortcomings.
Coco's problem is not completely Gilbert. I think the criticisms of Gilbert were well placed, however, even with a better Serve and Forehand Gauff will still lose a lot of matches. Why? Her footwork and court position is too defensive and she doesn't hit on the rise enough and aggressively. And, all of this has to do with her emotional method of playing tennis. She needs to take up something to handle managing her emotions. Maybe Buddism? Maybe Karate or Aikido? Something to help her to mentally attack moments of fear and cut through them. Thus, I expect problems from this Brad Gilbert separation because he is great at mental toughness which is at the core of Coco's issues. These hitting issues are problems but without the mental, she is not going to win. She must be calmer when she plays to pay attention and have rally discipline.
It’s not going to matter who’s her next coach if she doesn’t her forehand? It needs to be a sword and not a shield!!! The worst forehand in the top 20!!
People really need to stop blaming coaches ! I’ve never seen as much coach changes as ever with this new generation. Serena Williams has only ever had 2 major coaches, as with Venus Williams (Venus maybe more but those were hitting partners). I don’t think running from one coach to another is going to solve the problem. Sometimes “YOU” might just be the problem. Ask Sakarri and Raducanu or even Rune how their experience has been.
aryna stuck with her team through 2022 when she was double faulting and crying on court. personal accountability is not there Iga and Sabelenka have had the same team for years
I find that the greats don’t change coaches as often as the others do. Novak only had a handful his entire 20+ year career, Nadal, Fed etc..
Well that's how it works in any sport. In NFL NBA NHL they fire the coach and bring in someone new and keep trying. But those are team sports where team coordination and strategy matters so coach has more impact. Tennis is an individual sport so I'm not sure if coach makes that much of a difference. They can only give pointers but the execution is up to the player.
No one knows what's taking place behind the scenes🤷🏾♂️
Venus and Serena brought people on as consultants . They spent off time at various academies, taking lessons from other coaches, in off seasons. Rennae Stubbs, Bolliteri were the only ones that we knew of but Richard also consulted with people as well.
It’s 50/50. Brad needed to attack her flaws (Serve & Forehand) and with Coco she needs to get off of social media it’s messing with her mental health. She thinks she’s in control of it but she’s not
Now, I LOVE Coco, but I wholeheartedly agree with this. Between social media and relationships, while still developing.....uggghhhhh. Mental health vs social media is no joke. Many think they are in control, but affected big time...Just my observation as a therapist. It's frustrating!!!
@@msphil4life seriously she mentions social media almost every interview
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@@IamTv24Really? She’s active on social media? Yeah, that’s not helpful. She’s a performer, so use it to promote your brand. But she shouldn’t be commenting on memes & arguing w/ trolls. She deserves to lose if she’s wasting possible improvement time, on that
bullsh!t
Honestly, social media is bad for everyone's mental health.
We all knew it was over after Wimbledon. These celebrity managers are not long-term solutions for these top players; at the same time, she also holds a lot of the responsibility for not taking her game to the next level in 2024
Coco and Brad deserved each other for all the wrong reasons.
@@superyt4everWhy you say that?
I think once she lost US open to Emma Navarro with 19 double faults Brad Gilbert was toast! Players always clean house when they end up losing grand slams!!
Most coco fans are delusional. You can’t deny she’s a great talent, however, she’s no Serena…or Venus for that matter.
Coco fans are not delusional. We're love coco for who she is. There will not be an other serena. Setena will always be the best ot the best for centuries.
Media love to do that. Because she's a young talented precocious african American player. Apart the fact she's was a fan of serena this is the only comparison possible!
And now you bring it on us 🙄
@@heckleandjeckle624 haha you wish! Ok hater 😉
@@Bizzandsley the reality is that no one is Serena, and we’ll have to wait many generations to get anything close.
There is only one Serena and one Venus. BOTH are phenomenal under pressure and they oftentimes could rely on their serve to get them out of trouble.
Coco, well she doesn't perform well under pressure, and ESPECIALLY if a call is missed. Then she's rattled the remainder of the match.
Oh, and btw, Gilbert didn't hit 19 DFs. Coco kept doing the same 'stuff' and getting the same result. 🤦♂️
Coco great when she is on. !But too fragile when she meets stubborn resistance!
Rennae needs to try to coach Coco. I told her so. Her critiques are so spot on and she told Brad to his face on the desk. Regardless, she is never going to be Serena Williams, just Coco and at her best I'll roll with her.
Coco will not roll with you, but you can roll with your dog.
Stubbs is an erratic personality. And her critiques were not spot on. They were generic critiques given to club players.
I love your videos! Im new to the tennis world and you make it simple to learn about and interesting! Thank you!
thank you for watching and for the kind words!
It took Djokovic a total of three years to win a second major.
She’s got weaknesses. Opposition knows them. She’s over thinking. Just relax and play. She’ll be fine.
Well said. She just really need to relax and enjoy tennis, saw her at the US Open and she was extremely stressed even at practice. Brad was there and never spoke to her even at practice but focus on ESPN. Not a good fit at this young age for her
I agree. She doesn't appear to enjoy playing tennis lately.
Serve was getting so much better before Brad
Coco needs to dictate points instead of just playing defensively. She needs to up her level of play. Improve her serve.
Naomi is a great player but needs to add more variety. Just like Sabalenka, in the early years was just one dimensional. Now Sabalenka is unrecgonisable to former years with alot of variety. Naomi needs to add a slice to change up the pace now and again. With her powerful forehand she needs to use that to pick the spots down the line or cross court and sneak into net now and again to take a volley. Ive watched her game very closely and in my opinion, she gets tired if the point goes on too long and she doesn't dictate from the begining. Setting up the point at least once a game, to execute a volley would save her alot of energy, and over the course of a match hold onto that strength she needs to win a match
Iga wins slams with just a forehand and footwork, no variety is needed at all. Aryna is still behind Iga because of mentality. Sabalenka won US Open just standing at the baseline
@@deusexmachina9776 I don't think you was watching the same tournament tbh. Iga does what she does well, and executes her game. If Iga wanted to I'm sure she could come to net, but what she does is working right now but even Iga is looking to improve. Naomi needs to add something more.
@@MrLloyd214 chatgpt said she went to the net 30 times and stayed at the baseline 200 times so 15% - it is significant yes. but yeah if a player isnt mentally there no amount of variety will turn things around
People gave BG too much credit for her US open win. It’s clear that Père Riba was the main coach. She hasn’t won as decisively since he left
AGREED!
I agree 1000th precent. BG and Patrick want to be seen. I never felt he was the right fit for Coco. I don't think Patrick will be for Osaka. I don't understand why the females don't give more women coaches a chances. I believe Renae Stubbs would be excellent coach alone with her previous coach.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw Riba in Zheng's camp.
I'd take what Serena said with a grain of salt she was a complete player and never had technical issues
Osaka would beat gauff now. Osaka's first and second round matches are consistently brutal, but that is the normal path for everyone unseeded. Got to persevere
Coco can be generational if she fixes her forehand and improves her mental side a she is too emotional at a lot of times.
That's a lot to ask actually
Yeah a generational level flop
@@johnnythunder196and what are you ?
Idk but I’m really excited with these new coaching changes. If something isn’t working.. fix it and BRAD AND WIM were not working out for both Coco and Naomi. I think fresh perspective for them both is so needed and I’ve never been more excited to see how they progress next season! Also look forward to who Rybakina adds to her team. Wonder who else is considering changing their team before 2025.. should make for an exciting new season 🔥
Wim was with osaka when she won 2 slams, he isnt the issue here. she goes through her issues and blames coach like before when she fired wim the first time
I watch the Us open this year and I think it's more in her head than anything else like the former reply was it's in and he needs to stop overthinking and just play the other thing is that she may not be the next Serena Williams she's not going to be a lot when I had to she needs to just be herself and play
@@deusexmachina9776 he kind of was though. her return technique was appalling this season and a glaring issue, and they didn’t work on it until us open…
@@aaron.y2k as a 4 time slam champion she herself should know about returns without a coach. how can u be sure the coach didnt tell her vs she chose not to listen? the return coming back after a humilating qualifying loss makes me think she was not listening
@@deusexmachina9776 um... many pros change their technique on tour... thats a silly thing to say.
Great insights! I'm hoping Coco can find someone that can help her make progress, and that Naomi and Elena benefit from their new arrangements. I'm curious what you think about Iga's team. Iga won 5 slams working with Wiktorowski, do you think the current team can help her move forward? Or would she benefit from teaming up with someone with a fresh perspective?
Weird how Coco was serving pretty well under Brad Gilbert when she, you know, Won The US Open... Weird how all the sudden she gets the serving yips and that's the coaches fault.
@@WickedRichie 🎯
I don't think she believes it's the coaches' fault, but the chemistry wasn't right and that added to her serving troubles
@@al1976-v7m CHEMISTRY was so horrible that coco won a slam
@@deusexmachina9776 well that was an initial effect as Brad gave her trust in her shots and encouraged her to grind out wins. But ultimately she couldn't overcome her self-doubts.
Honeymoon phase plain & simple. See it all the time in tennis. Her best results came within a two-month period after hiring him. After that 2023 summer run, it was back to the same ol' mess. Her technique is horrible & was never fixed. After Gaffe won USO, the girls on tour, so insulted by that, have all made her pay in 2024.
Osaka had a baby with a rapper, she is completely done. Coco got exposed for her weaknesses and is dating a rapper so she is done.
Mouratoglou about Simona case “I feel responsible for what happened because it’s my team who recommended and brought her this collagen”
It's probably irrational but there's something about him I don't trust or like.
The actuality is employees make decisions everyday around the world that cost employers their reputation and millions it took years building. So I get it . He feels responsible? It was his employee. Why isn’t Simone not suing Patrick🧐
It's the pressure of US tennis falling short in the big tournaments across the board for more than 15 years, without Serena and Venus no other pro US tennis players have really dominated the sport male or female. Billie Jean King and them shaking in their boots.
I thought Gauff needed a different coach. Brad Gilbert never seemed to care about Coco. Thanks.
Gauff's serve is an issue, no matter the coach. She's got a technical issue with that particular shot. That needs to be addressed with all due haste. She really needs to do what Sabalenka did, and get herself a biomechanical specialist to help her.
Brad should move to the mens side as i think he fits better there, i would love if Rune or Zverev got him as i think he could help a lot.
New coach may help, but Gauff should look to Sabalenka and Zverev for inspiration. Both had serving "yips" for a long time, but persevered and came out better on the other side.
It was just a matter of time before the finger pointing started. Coco won a grand slam with Brad Gilbert, so something was going right. It was difficult to watch her struggle after winning the U.S. Open, and there's probably enough blame to go around. You have coaching both on and off the court, but a player still has to execute the game plan. In tough moments, it seemed like there was an unwillingness to change tactics and an overall inability to problem solve. I like Coco and hope she's able to turn it around. Looking forward to the 2025 season!
She won bcos of Riba,the Spanish coach and they gave all the credit to Gilbert.
@@mervelynebiyonbakare6028 I agree Pere Riba should be credited as well for her U.S. Open win, he was part of that winning team. Gilbert was added because someone must have thought he had something valuable to add. It's unfortunate it didn't work out long term with either coach. I like Riba and think it was a good move for him to reunite with Zheng, you can see her improvement. I can hardly keep up with the coaching carousel, but I'll be watching.
BLAME the coach and not the player who is stubborn and doesn't listen?. Her parents and all the marketing doesn't help. Brad got her a grandslam. She let the hype go to her head . Half the game of Serena but much more hype.
It was not Gilbert,it was Riba,the Spanish coach that tutored her to the U.S open.Good Gilbert is out.
Gilbert was wrong for Coco. He should have removed himself within six (6) months of their failings and faults. (sic)
She did not continue to develop and grow during fourteen (14) months, with him as her head coach.
She was nothing until Gilbert became her coach she was all hype by announcers wanting the black female replacement for Serena. Well it won't happen she's into the commercial aspect of her career and play took a back seat. As long as she thinks she can just hit her way out of trouble she will never win another major been following her from day one it's her head and the celebrity that is her problem.
@@marionchaplin4584 You are entitled to your opinion.
@@marionchaplin4584 it's evident that Pere RIBA was responsible for Gauff's success as evidenced by her regression once he left. Just look at Qinwen progress in the past year since RIBA went to work with her. Gilbert never had the solution in the first place
@@marionchaplin4584 I'm perplexed about Gauff hitting her way out of trouble as she the lesser of the heavy hitters on tour. If you said she relied on her athleticism to compensate , I would agree with you what I see is a girl whose technical difficulties should have been addressed before she came on tour. Her team has let her down from their lack of foresight in not realizing once she got into top 10 her weaknesses would be exploited
Number 1 junior from South Africa showed me tips on 2nd serve !Just that basic tip if heavily practiced by Coco would solve alot for her I think! Some her problems are technical I think!
I was literally in the midst of writing that I think Coco should try to hire Peter Lungdren and I just found out that he died in August!!!
Gilbert in my opinion is more like a mental/motivational/ strategic coach. Rather than technical I might be wrong but that’s the vibe he gives me.
Yeh I think the winning ugly philosophy can only work so far. It's true the best players do manage to win when not playing their best but you can't keep winning if having real technical issues. Coco is still very young though.. I am sure she'll work things out.
Brad had too many jobs. He was up at the desk commentating before and after her matches. Unprofessional. Riba probably left because Brad assured Gauff's Team he had all the answers, he didn't.
I'm glad Coco and Brad ended their coaching relationship. All I can think of is that 4th round Wimbledon match. Brad looked as if he saw a ghost when Coco was going through it. I was thinking they would split then. I want Stubbs or Davenport to coach Coco. Heck I'd even take Martina if she was willing. I wish Brad the best. As far as Naomi, chiiiiii Idk but I do want to see her win another slam. Thanks for the upload! 😊
Only time will tell, but the decision is the right one for Coco. My concern is that Coco is getting in her own way. Yes she is a talented young player, but talent can only get you so far without a solid foundation to work with/on. She needs to be honest with her mechanics inorder for any coaching to work. I miss Naomi si much but her problems are psychological not mechanical. The game would be much more exciting with both women flourishing.
Wasnt Fissett working with Zheng and left her to return to coaching Osaka when she returned from maternity leave? Serves him right!
And Mouratogolou is a media who##
Had Pere Riba continued as head coach, I believe she would've been more consistent. He's strictly a coach without the side commentator job.
Yes, the serve is broken. Her racket speed is not fast enough for such extreme forehand grip. She is off balance and result in weak shots that put her on the defense immediately.
She should change it because the forehand is technically flawed and a coaching change will not fix it.
Good move Coco. Solve technical performance issues around the serve. Naomi with great potential needs someone who knows how to align her thinking to see grand slam as normal to her future. After seeing the ESPN special on Serena, it appears to me that the level of excellence required from both coco and Naomi seems compromised by endorsements. Get down to work ladies.
Can’t blame coaches all the time. Coco is near to her best or peak and we will have to wait and see if she have it. Patrick is a business man and enjoyed the fame and money more than being a coach. But having saying that UTS is a breath of fresh air, good on him for making that happened.
Lets get back to specifics in regards to her winning the ooen first of alleverything fell in line .she got an easy draw until she met ostapenko who was exhausted from day prior no sleep .sabalenka happened to play subpar .i dont see her winning another slam .too many players coming up and currentbplayers better than her .
Brad Gilbert has an OVERBEARING personality. Eventually, in the cases of Agassi, Roddick, and Gauff, they couldn't take any more of him, and had to let him go.
Someone said Monica Seles i think excellant ! Gentle enough not to aggravate but convincing enough to tell Coco this is what you need!
Well, for people to think that you are supposed to win a slam or be in the top 10 after giving birth a year later is not realistic. Watching Naomi play tells me she still got it. My concern was that she was just going to show up and do a 9 to 5 work routine like some players and didn't care to go further. She looks fit and is playing more matches. However the mental confidence is still missing. Don't know if a carousel of coaches is the answer in addition to having to juggle her schedule. Am cheering for her, though.
Her coach is not her problem it's her ego and trying to emulate Serena also all the commerical aspect of her career has gotten in the way of tennis
Coco needs to get Sabalenka's physio that worked on Sqbalenkas serve and forehand. Pay him a chunk of money and snatch him from Saba
Coco needs a more technical coach at this point. Her FH is still the glaring weakness in her game, and is holding back everything else.
Brad Gilbert is a low character jerk. Once Coco is back with a higher character coach, she will start flying.
Coco is only 20. Can’t blame Gilbert for all her recent problems. I think she’ll be fine. Osaka, however, is finished. Her game has not progressed one little bit since her first slam. She desperately wants to be Serena instead of being herself. She needs some mental health care. Patrick is a terrible coach.
I agree, the Gauff coach change is overdue. When I look at her play I see Andy Roddick and he only won 1 grand slam under Brad Gilbert (2003) US Open. And I know Coco does Not want to end up like that. However, Brad Gilbert is a good coach he just may not be right for Coco at this time. Andre Agassi won 6 grand slams wit him. I think Coco needs to change her game a little; come to the net more like Andre did. That baseline slugging it out is not working. Gauff is an awesome player she just needs the right coach.
Take Jennifer Capriati when she got her act together and the right coach you couldn’t do nothing with her. She won 3 grand slams and beat Graf to win the gold medal in ‘92 Olympics. And Graf was not an easy opponent. Coco needs to weed out the noise and get better focus if she wants to win another grand slam.
Doesn't matter the coach, while on the court. Players really have to figure out how to win, when the game isn't working beautifully. Especially when you don't have weapons. I wish Coco the best going forward. Sounds like a mental and psychological concern. Gilbert is rough around the edges and you can't take anything personal. I thought he was a great fit, but I am not Coco. Time will tell. And with Naomi, I don't have any immediate thoughts. I was never a fan of Mouratogolou. But if it works for her, carry on!! 2025 Season will be very interesting indeed.
Best news ever,
For Holgur Rune.
these overhyped players are going nowhere. Serena and Steffi records will stand.
I am happy Gauff and Brad have gone their separate ways but l don't think a new coach is going to make a huge difference.
Good Luck COCO With Your Game And Whomever You Select As Your Coach. Also Get Your Psychological Sports Issues Addressed As Well. You're An Excellent Player When All Cylinders Are Performing And Running Well..I Know You Will Get Back To That!! ❤🎾🎾🎾
Change can be good.
Does anyone else notice that folks in Coco’s box have mouratoglou academy gear on? Maybe it’s just coincidence? Patrick is a truly fascinating character…
I wouldn’t want a coach that sits on a panel after I lose a match and has to talk about my game before we able to talk about it together at the practice court. Good coach but bad conflict of interest
THIS RIGHT HERE!!! Did it for me. Poor judgment on his behalf. NEXT!!!!!
Osaka is over and out Osaka her dilmma is the love for the music man. You cannot combine top protennis with love affairs. You have to chose relation or tennis. You cannot have them both. Ask Assarenka.
She also had a baby she should not be a new mother either?
I like Coco and Brad splitting. Maybe Sascha Bajin or Rennae Stubbs would be good for her. But I still ask WHAT has changed from just a year ago? It has to be burnout or something more. As for the Naomi/Patrick pairing, I can't call it. Lol. I'll just have to watch and see how this will unfold like everyone else. Rybakina is still needing a coach too. Its a lot going on! 😲🧐🎾
Nice to hear you speak more naturally rather than ripping through your script as fast as you can. Advice...either get a teleprompter so shots of you speaking on camera don't show you constantly sneaking looks at your script, or just stay off camera while speaking, unless what you're saying on camera can be said without obviously sneaking looks away from eye contact with your audience to read the script. And staying relaxed is good. Jamming your words together like you're rushing to get finished is awkward and off putting. Christian is knowledgeable. A more relaxed Christian is more confident and much easier to listen to. Thanks for filling a tennis news void.
thanks for the advice Reid!
I think Andy Roddick wanted to coach her. and I think she should give him a try he know how to serve better then anyone
I was around when the greats didnt travel with coaches. They had to find their own solutions on and off the court.
Good analysis. I'd love to hear your thoughts on some good coaching fits for Coco and Naomi. 100% agree that Naomi continued to make the same types of mistakes re returns and lack of margin on her shots. I feel she'll rebound during the asian swing though.
I think Carlos Rodriguez is a good fit for coco , previous coach of henin and li na. Li na had a forehand and strategy problem so worked on that and her all court offensive skills. I think his coaching would further coco’s game
CoCo missed some “windows of opportunities” because of her earlier success. Ectomorphs, like Venus and CcCo should not dangle their racquets. Ectomorph danglers have serving issues and have to apologize for errant tosses. They will also have forehand issues if it doesn’t evolve as they grow. Otherwise, it will depended on perfect timing.
I felt she would get rid of Brad. He did all he would be able to do for her, last yr. Basically he got her career to the next level by pushing her to play around the deficiencies in her game & not dwell on changing her technique. That was the right move for Coco. Now she’ll have figure out a different focus, if she aspires to have Hall-of-Fame achievements
I don’t think Brad was a good fit for the team. He is clearly a great coach but the coaching relationship needs to have great chemistry and I believe that’s the challenge. All the players talk about the importance of having the right people around them. Coco is very coachable as is evident from her run last year. I just believe there were issues among the coaching staff that did not help Coco as she seems to internalize things. If things were good between her & BG I don’t think she would’ve continue to add people to her team. Btw, JC is her other coach who she brought on ahead of Roland Garros; again signaling that maybe there was an issue between her & BG. She’s always said he’s knowledgeable I just don’t think he was the right fit. Just take a look at the people who left her team once he got involved…do I think she will now bounce back?! That remains to be seen but having the right people around you can definitely help with the mentality both on and off court.
Coco is a good player, but not a great one. If she got her serve under control, that would be a big step forward.
He is an excellent coach….I would hire Patrick if I was Osaka tooo.
I use to play tennis up into my twenties! Loved it! I'm 34 now which is ancient 😂😂😂😂😂but I still love the sport❤❤❤
Not comfortable with people saying it was Brad that made her win all those tournaments when he came on board. That's very disrespectful to the coach she had in Pere Riba at that time who was amazing for Coco and Brad came in and assisted him. You can look at it as Pere then leaving not long after the US Open and ever since Coco not quite pushing onto better things with just Brad as her coach. Riba deserves all the credit for Coco winning the US Open, then she did a Emma Raducanu let the coach who took her to success go
this man is not coco problem coco is her own problem i am sorry, only if they have internal problems
Honestly they are putting too much pressure on her to be an all time great but maybe she is not and all time great but a great player. At 20 years old she has made it to 2 grand slam finals and won 🥇 one and has won many titles and ranked number 3 in the world. That’s not bad. If she wins 5-10 grand slams in her career it’s not bad it’s great actually which she can.
In what world is she ranked #3? you should keep up with tennis more. She's number 6 and that's with a tour where 80% have a problem staying healthy and/or motivated to play the entire year.
@@johnnythunder196 If you watch tennis like you said you would know she just became number 6 because she did not defend he US open points which dropped her. If you read what I said I read her accomplishments which she had been world number 3 since the Australian open this year when she made the semifinal. Presently being world number 6 and a 20 year old many have not even accomplished that.
@@clintinb5219 You finally realized she's #6....wow congratulations! She's #6 because of chronically soft draws & never sustaining an injury in 6+ years on tour (where 90% of the tour misses time each year due to physical injury or psychological issues) i.e. she plays in a very weak era. Navarro & Zheng are superior talents & will pass her soon. Frankly I don't expect her to regain a top 3 spot as other players with much higher ceilings like Diana S & Mirra A are improving rapidly & should be top 10 mainstays next season.
@@johnnythunder196I didn’t just realize she was number 6 I was stating what she has accomplished like reaching 2 grand slams and winning one and being world number three all at the age of 20, no matter what that is an accomplishment many have never achieved not to talk about a 20 year old, she just needs to keep improving. She turned pro at 14 years old 6 years ago so name me one person on tour at 14 dominating on tour presently? Like is about growth and improvement it’s up to her to put in the hard work like others on the tour, that’s a choice she must make on her own.
@@clintinb5219 You didn't realize something months in the making (she was never going to defend those 2000 USO points) yet you accuse me of not watching tennis "if you watch tennis like you said...."...I'll make sure to revisit this post and comment again when she's out of the top 10. Once she stops getting those first round byes every month her ranking should sink like a rock.
If Cocoa does not change her attitude she will never win a grand slam again.
She needs to improve her first service and forehand. More agressive topspin at least like Iga. She must learn to anticipate and forget showtime hitting. Be practical and win forget the “Oh “ shots. First service must be 80 %.
A good new coach might be Sasha Bejin imo
Her problem was having her parents as coaches we know how that worked out ask the Williams Sisters ask Donald Young not a good fit ask Tsitipas and Zerev. She won when she dropped her parents and she will never win because there are much better players now. Her entire game was sports media hype wanting the game of the Williams Sisters again well with this chick not going to happen.
Her major error is shot balls, especially from her forehand. Other parts of her game will improve - especially her serve. She is already a major star. One or two grandslams and a No.1 ranking, and she becomes a potential Hall of Famer.
I love what Kiki Mladenovic told Coco in her on court speech after she beat her and Jessica in the doubles finals in 2022. She said most players had come to Roland Garros and left without any trophy, but Coco was walking away with two.
Stupid haters will call that a failure because they were both runner up trophys 🙄
Coco needs a coach who will give her confidence. She is an outstanding player, but the pressure of being great only multiplies with the more success you attain.
Rennae Stubbs would be a good addition to Coco's team, but she also needs a psychologist to help her deal with the people who want to say she has a problem with her forehand - these people are quiet when she wins a 40 rally game, but lo and behold she misses a forehand and yep she has a problem, not withstanding the fact that every singles player that loses a match, which is 99% of players, loses it because they missed a forehand 💡
I'll be short and sweet. The coaching won't make a difference for either CoCo or Osaka it's not technically oriented but an internal psychology problem that needs to be resolved. If not then the merry-go-round will only continue throughout their playing careers.
Randy
Frankly, I don’t know how serious is Osaka about her tennis comeback. I have a gut feeling that she came back to tennis to continue to grease the wheels of her endorsements train because that’s where the real money is. May be that train was starting to slow the farther away she got from tennis. She continues to smile when she loses as if to project a positive image.
Mourataglou and Osaka looks like a very promising partnership on paper. When you consider how he turned Serenas potential into major serial success and compare to Osakas ability, this could be very special. As much as i like Haleps tennis and her mentla strength, i don't feel like she is on the same level in what she can bring to a tennis match.
Gilbert isn’t really the problem. Coco herself has to be willing to fix the weaknesses in her game. She also likes to figure things out herself in her matches and doesn’t really want to listen when things are going wrong. Which then leads to her frustrations. And it’s time for her to focus more on singles.
On the other hand, Osaka needs to start playing doubles so she can develop a net game. She won’t win just playing at the baseline.
the ABS Classic is a WTA 250.....
Yes and Yes! They both made the right decision to change coaches. Brad Gilbert wasn't the answer for Coco. His recommendation that she ✋ playing doubles was terrible. Doubles is why she won the US Open last year. This year 19 double faults and 54 unforced errors in a match she still had a chance to win.
Naomi Osaka needs a coach like Patrick someone who will teach her how to seal the deal for sets and matches. Perhaps he will convince her to play doubles to improve her net game. Naomi is playing good tennis but lacks the skill and confidence to close matches.
I watched her hit 54 winners including 16 Aces in just 3 sets against the No. 1 player in the world who was playing at a high level hitting 37 winners herself. Although Naomi served for the match at 5-2 she lost the game and match going away! Losing 5 straight games.
Bro stop recommending coaches for Cocoa and have her fix her attitude. If not no more grand slams
I think coco guaff could work with Rick macci. He trained both Serena and Venus, when they were young and were developing technique. Technique is what coco needs. Coco’s forehand has too much air on it and I think Rick macci could help her, she’s young too so she has time still.
What we are forgetting players are employers and coaches employees. I believe it who the player connects with mentally at that level of the game. Osaka has won four glams if she doesn’t know who to play now she never will. She was out 18 month and had a baby. Her body has to adjust for that. And mental part of being world class athlete. Everybody just expecting her pick up where she left off isn’t realistic for herself or fans. You can get PTA coach and get results. It’s about the players being recipient. Like Gruff 19 double faults. That is mental to me. In junior tennis you learn get the second in and at least make them hit a winner. I don’t she her lose that bad for a comeback. Players got better while she was away. I believe she is trying too hard on and off the court!
I don't think it is anything to do with the coach. When payers go on the court, it is their responsibility to go out there and face their opponents...play what they practice on in the practice sessions...
Gauff will be a one slam wonder... Gauff won that major title because Saba got overwhelmed by the crowd...😮😮😮
It’s not the Coach. It’s her refusal to change her serving motion. Please get her to Andy Roddick or Serena Williams so they can teach her the CORRECT way to serve. EVERY match this year, her serve let her down. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Brad Gilbert is a great Coach, but you have to LISTEN and change. Aryna Sabalenka had a TERRIBLE SERVE. She CHANGED how she was serving, and now she’s winning. Coco’s errors come from her knowing she can’t depend on her serve. It’s fixable, but she will need to relearn how to serve and not fall into bad habits when she is stressed.
In my humble view, Coco now plays like Wozniacki 2.0, so there are no weapons; she could be ok with tennis and be a top 15 for the next 10 years. She needs a technician coach to continue her progress. Finally, could somebody fix the forehand and go back to her 2 heavy kick serves and no more double faults. I do not think she will ever have a serve that will bail her out. Osaka is hitting great, but the field is more challenging, post and thanks to Serena the WTA players are learning how to redirect power with smaller strokes. The days that Osaka can just run over players are over, and she needs to learn how to earn points by outsmarting her opponents, something is not easy for her.
I don't think she'll remain in the top 15 if she stops receiving all of the "byes" she does. IOW If she falls out of the top 15 she'll have trouble getting back in.
Mouratogulos academy being the best right now? Excuse me?! The rafa academy produced Alcaraz 😅
Rafa’s academy didn’t produce Carlos. It was Juan Carlos’ academy. Rafa’s big success thus far is Ruud.
@@andrewscottgreene I stand corrected but what pro has the m academy produced of that level
man these coaches are being blamed for every single negative thing. and when the player does well, they always talk about how they work so hard and give the smallest credit to the coaches ☠️ these players need more accountability for their shortcomings.
Stubbs should coach Coco
Idk I don’t think it’s the coach. I want to blame him so bad but I think it’s her personal life that’s getting in her way
I think you should also post her record vs the top 30 not just top 5. Her record vs top 30 is not very good
Coco's problem is not completely Gilbert. I think the criticisms of Gilbert were well placed, however, even with a better Serve and Forehand Gauff will still lose a lot of matches. Why? Her footwork and court position is too defensive and she doesn't hit on the rise enough and aggressively. And, all of this has to do with her emotional method of playing tennis. She needs to take up something to handle managing her emotions. Maybe Buddism? Maybe Karate or Aikido? Something to help her to mentally attack moments of fear and cut through them. Thus, I expect problems from this Brad Gilbert separation because he is great at mental toughness which is at the core of Coco's issues. These hitting issues are problems but without the mental, she is not going to win. She must be calmer when she plays to pay attention and have rally discipline.
No, Osaka!!!!🙈😱😱😱😱
Coco Bean needs to split with her current mindset...... the problems are in her head not with the coach or coaches!!!
I knew the Coco camp would use Brad Gilbert as a scapegoat for her failures. Pretty predictable.
It’s not going to matter who’s her next coach if she doesn’t her forehand? It needs to be a sword and not a shield!!! The worst forehand in the top 20!!