@@cdavid8139 Matter of the fact is, the firetruck had no business being on the railroad crossing, period. the train had a green signal, the crossing was closed, and the train was doing the speedlimit, not that it would have mattered at the distance it was when the fire truck driver went AROUND the barriers. what people need to understand is that railroad crossings are Private Property of which ever railroad company owns the track, the moment crossing closes, your right to be on that crossing is immediately revoked.
@@Knight_Jos I am not debating this incident...just your statement that the railroad is never wrong. There are MANY cases where the railroad can be at fault. I will also correct you on another matter. The railroads 'usually' own the track but not always. Sometimes the ROW can be government owned (city/state/port) and sometimes even private land the railroad has entered into an agreement to cross. I sent out crews today to switch out cars over tracks owned by the community...not the railroad.
@@johnschneider4160 Your statement is really ludacris. The American people have voted not only by electoral college 312 Trump to 266 Harris, Trump won the majority popular vote also, and he is the first president to do so. You need to thank your luck stars that it was not Harris that won or we would then be a Venezuelan Marxist country in very short order.
As a firefighter Captain, I am ashamed. There are two individuals to blame here. The Captain, (there side of the truck) and driver. No way in hell should that Captain have allowed his driver to make such a reckless move and not only endanger his crew but the civilians around them. It was the Captains side of the truck that got hit. Did they not see the other train coming? Regardless, whether there was a train or not, the gates were down you NEVER cross. This is gross negligence on both and they should be removed from service. No excuse. We are taught these rules as children in school. They could have killed someone. Idiots.
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets.
Man even the Firefighters act like the laws don't apply to them! How stupid can you be crossing when the guard rails are down and the alarms & lights mind you are going off. Not only that but they're crossing ever so slowly like they have all day.
Let’s just save a whole ton of taxpayers dollars for an “investigation”. Roll the tape. Now everyone knows what “caused” the crash. Investigation completed.
Just need to pay one NTSB agent for a single day of work asking the fire truck driver why he was stupid enough to think he could drive around the gate, if a train passes and the gates don't go up within 10-15 seconds 99.9% of the time another train is coming.
what's amazing is the fire truck entered the tracks on the side the train was coming from. It's not like fire truck crossed from the other side and the oncoming train was obscured by the frieght train.
@onetwothreeabc we voted a whole new government in, much of the government will get axed. This should help clear the way to readjust laws to hold individuals responsible.
BL keeps hitting vechiles that won't stay behind crossing gates or respect crossing RR tracks. There are some truly stupid drivers in S FL. I live in Central FL and when we have these kind of accidents it is the same thing. Some idiot racing the train, ducking the gates, or getting stuck on the tracks. THE TRAIN HAS RIGHT OF WAY AND WILL ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!
How often does an ignorant driver take their vehicle around down train crossing bars, thinking it is safe because one train has passed, not expecting a 2nd. Many videos show disaster because of stupidity. The driver of the firetruck could have killed many people by breaking the law.
They are still trying to find out why was the fire truck on the track? It drove around the closed gates if you look at the video it shows that the gates are down. It's not rocket science.
" Investigators are still trying to figure out why a fire truck was in the crossing......" Really everyone else has figured it out. The driver effed up. Reminds me of the sheriff deputies in Colorado that parked a squad car on the tracks then put a handcuffed woman in it and ignored the blaring train horn until it was too late. There's another YT video of a sheriffs SUV getting hit at a double track crossing. One train passed and he took off and got Tboned by the second train
That driver of the fire truck should have known better to be stopped on tracks like that waiting probably for a light to change or traffic back up. Common sense should have told them that a train was approaching when the lights were activated and crossbars come down. As a former driver/operator of fire engines and big trucks I would not have any of my vehicle sitting on tracks while waiting for a light or traffic to clear up. While waiting a train could show up and there you go - gotcha!
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets
@@aprilgeneric8027 Are you kidding? The gates were down the entire time. A passing fright train went thru first. The fire truck went around the DOWN GATES thiking it was clear when the bright line hit it.
@@aprilgeneric8027 somehow everyone else managed to stop...it was the firetruck that assumed it was clear to pass without realizing the gates were still down for the 2nd train. That's how railroad crossings work.
Brightline, has had more accidents in its short time than probably Amtrak over all the years. Then again not a lot of bright drivers in fl. Just look at all the BL Accidents.
I was a brakeman on the SCL here in Florida. When there are 2 tracks and one train passes, another train could be coming on track 2. That's what happened here.
Again, people keep blaming brightline, the train is too fast, there aren't enough warning devices, etc etc. no. _Drivers_ --including the one driving this fire truck, are stupid.
@@Kehk-in-a-MiG Which Brightline accident was caused by a gate failure? What does a train’s speed have to do with idiots running gates? Don't stop on the tracks and you won't get hit. Further, most of the incidents were suicide by train.
I think it was Bill Maher who said that its like some shook the country and all the stupid people fell into Florida. Not the brightest bulbs. That's why they resent the “northern, intellectual elite.”
This happens a lot when there are two separate tracks at a railroad crossing. People see one train go by on one set of tracks and assume that the coast is clear. Only to find out there is another train heading in the opposite direction on the other track.
6:34 The fire truck was on the tracks because the truck driver ignored the gates and drove around them! There's no investigation needed to see what happened.
Train had a green signal. Most Emergency Services have standing orders not to cross tracks when lights are operating no matter what. Radio in a delay and wait.
Another train was clearing the intersection in the opposite direction. My guess is that the fire truck thought it would be clear, didn't see the other train, and drove around the crossing gate.
Train rules aren't just laws that will put you in jail, if you break them stupidly enough, they'll put you in the ground, whatever pieces they can find of you...
@@Kehk-in-a-MiG No, it's because stupid people drive around lowered gates at railroad crossings. This is not a major issue anywhere else in the country. Play stupid games get stupid prizes.
The fire truck was obviously in the wrong, but here is my theory. The freight train just past, the driver not using his brain, figured it was good to go, not wanting to wait for the gates to lift. Asinine move. To those on different threads who have commented gates do not block all the lanes, yes there are cities where gates block all lanes (4 arms), but the fact is if the gate is blocking the lane in the direction of travel, that indicates not to proceed. There is no law anywhere that can regulate stupid. This cost Delray Beach millions, a fire truck about 800K and repairs to the train. I wonder if their insurance pays out in the case of traffic violation. Be sure a private vehicle insurance would not pay out.
We see the the lights were flashing before the initial impact. So it seems like they were in a emergency thus the reason why they were in the wrong side of the road. But clearly yes it was their fault. I'm sure they were using the Horn and Sirens and did not hear nor saw the Brightline coming and blowing horns cause there were alot of noise. You can see the lights flashing from the truck. Just play it over and over and you'll see it right there. But think about this. What would the initial impact be if you had a tillerman in the back of that fire truck?
What is to figure out? It is clear as day on the video. The FT driver chose to go around the closed gates, end of story. Why are news announcers so dense?
should be mentioned now that firetrucks in the u.s. are far too large and ungainly 90% of the time. like, you serve nothing but 2 story apartments and suburbs. why do have a 60 foot ladder? 😂😂😂
What is this language i'm hearing, a supply train? it's a freight train, more specifically a tanking train, and a WHAT!! guard rails down??? do you mean crossing gate?????? WTH is a guard rail down. The reporter along with the driver of that firetruck both need to be drug tested.
The truth is, the train actually CAN be in the wrong place. If you look ater Europe's high speed rail, you will see that they never imagined to use a little piece of a 19th century freight line here, coupled to a few meters of a city tram line there, coupled to a few meters of kids' sandbox somewhere else to make it work. They started with a modern and well-maintained inter-city line of welded rail, already fully overhead electrified and ADDED to this a very substantial infrastructure investment to pretty much eliminate grade crossings like this. Nowhere in Europe will you be sipping your apéritif on the café terrace with high speed traing roaring past you at 300 KM/h. An operation with the ambitions of BrightLine cannot be safely mounted with the shoestring and spaghetti budget they have allocated, but will require MUCH more infrastructure investment to fulfill its goals. They are just beginning to see the dismal future their failure holds, unless they can secure the investment needed to put the fast trains where they need to be, which is not where the people and the school buses and the fire trucks are.
It's hard to believe that a fire truck would disobey a crossing like this and put him and his entire team at risk, not to mention everyone in the train and on the ground. Is it possible that there was a malfunction? That the crossing arms went up when the freight train passed, and went back down after the fire truck tried to cross? I mean, it's not unheard of, human error is possible, but a mistake like that.. wow, awful. I think an investigation is definitely warranted here. So much is at risk and on the line to get this right.
The crossing gates are not controlled by humans and are fail proof. Their default setting is down. They need an electrical current to keep them raised that is broken by the train passing a point a mike up the track from the crossing. There is a wonderful video on @practicalengineering channel explaining. The scenario you explain is impossible as any malfunction wouldn't raise the arms but would lower them.
If only there was at least 8) red flashing lights and gates down to show the driver's to stop that a train is on the way!!! 🤔 Oh, wait, there was. This driver just ignored a stop signal and broke the law by going around a gate that was clearly down! 🤦♂️
Train tracks have been cutting through Florida, long before the cities and towns were fully developed. Idiots driving around down train track arms are the problem, not 80 mph trains.
@@cudiving2150 I've lived in Florida all my life! Vero Beach couldn't keep up with crossings maintenance with a SLOW train for the last quarter century!!!!
On most level crossings for high-speed rail in other countries around the world you find double-crossarm gates covering all lanes of road travel. And their safety record is extremely high. We need laws changed in the US to mandate these types of gates be used for high-speed rail level crossings in the United States.
Other areas of the country have a similar layout with even faster trains, and yet the number of crashes and incursions aren't as high. Floridian drivers need to stop thinking they're entitled to beat trains.
@xray606 I ended up underneath the arms coming down. The lights didn't come on first. In Delray. Last spring. I never crossed east or west on Yamato Road after that.
I was under the belief that Brightline was going to make the crossarms long enough to prevent vehicles from going around the gates. What happened to that? Too much money for Brightline to spend ?
In the USA, when there is traffic in both directions, we don't generally put a gate across the lanes leaving the tracks. That is because sometimes cars get caught between the gates and the drivers get confused, not realizing then can just drive through the gate and had better do so. Some other countries block all lanes coming and going.
@@GH-oi2jf Yes I am very peved that the US is not adapting - its been possible to check that the crossing is unobstructed before lowering the exit gates for easily a dechade or two. either automaticly (ladar or radar) or via CCTV.
Surprised that a fire truck driver has trouble judging the speed of an approaching train, something that novice drivers and pedestrians can have trouble with. Maybe the driver had sufficient time to get across at first but conditions changed after he was committed to getting across.
Drivers have terrible visibility out the passenger window of a fire truck due to the fact they are built several feet wider most other vehicles including other trucks. Driving them is a team effort between driver and officer “front seat passenger”, who has the responsibility of clearing intersections at red lights by calling clear to the driver before they proceed. I suspect the fire training video from this will reinforce some sort of double clear of no train coming+enough space to fully clear the intersection quickly when responding to calls, or alternatively, that trains shouldn’t be treated similarly to other intersections.
@@Dudelikescake Several feet, SMH. They wouldn't fit on the road, people will make up anything. They are no wider then any other street legal rig on the road.
Irrelevant. The gate was down prior to the fire truck crossing the tracks. The fire truck driver decided that since he saw a stopped train one track, therefore he could ignore the gates down. There are two tracks, and the gate was down. 100% firetruck driver's fault.
Obviously, high speed rail should be elevated above the ground. Blaming doesn't bring back the dead...but proper planning and engineering CAN prevent the loss of lives. Its poor concept is proven, over and over, with every single collision and fatality.
What was the speed of the train again? A train traveling at 70plus mph at grade level crossings on a congested, business/residential area is a liability regardless of crossing gates!
@edmundanderson657 No crash of any sort has been caused by the infrastructure. No Brightline crash has been caused by derailment. No Brightline crash has been caused by gate failure. The crashes are mostly suicide by train, or arrogance/stupidity which is all too common in Florida.
at 80mph it takes a football field per second for cR TO SLOW DOWN...TRAINS STEEL WHEELS ON SLIDE ON STEEL RAILS, IT TAKES THEM A MILE. none of the crossing gate arms are down and none of the warning lights are active.
It takes trains up to a mile to strop... sometimes longer. BY the time the train engineer sees anything in front of him, its always too late to stop. All they can do it hit the brakes and try to slow down as much as possible to mitigate the impact. But it will crash regardless.
@@aprilgeneric8027 Watch any of the videos about this. Gates are present and down with lights flashing. Fire truck drove around the fully functioning gates
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets
The counterweight position on the one to the left shows gate down. Any gate down, lights and bells would be active. In looking at Google street view, there is a double set of arms on both sides of the crossing. In the cab view video the double arms are clearly down at other crossings. The question being was the other arm working or did the fire truck bust through?
@@nomenclature9373 It was one single long arm that covers EB and WB. Not 4 gates like in some areas. Just 2. Fire truck drove around it via the side walk
As the son of an engineer, I can say this - the train is never wrong.
As an engineer let me assure you we make mistakes
@@cdavid8139 Matter of the fact is, the firetruck had no business being on the railroad crossing, period. the train had a green signal, the crossing was closed, and the train was doing the speedlimit, not that it would have mattered at the distance it was when the fire truck driver went AROUND the barriers. what people need to understand is that railroad crossings are Private Property of which ever railroad company owns the track, the moment crossing closes, your right to be on that crossing is immediately revoked.
@@Knight_Jos I am not debating this incident...just your statement that the railroad is never wrong. There are MANY cases where the railroad can be at fault. I will also correct you on another matter. The railroads 'usually' own the track but not always. Sometimes the ROW can be government owned (city/state/port) and sometimes even private land the railroad has entered into an agreement to cross. I sent out crews today to switch out cars over tracks owned by the community...not the railroad.
^
@@cdavid8139 This was my first reaction to this video at all, never did i state that railroad companies never make mistakes. They do, and alot.
Emergency services people being that dumb is amazing
Not if the driver voted for Trump.
@@johnschneider4160 C'mon dude, stop with all your b/s drama!
It’s Florida!
@@peterbonaccorsi3445Johns got a point, TRump voters deny facts daily even when proven wrong!😑
@@johnschneider4160 Your statement is really ludacris. The American people have voted not only by electoral college 312 Trump to 266 Harris, Trump won the majority popular vote also, and he is the first president to do so. You need to thank your luck stars that it was not Harris that won or we would then be a Venezuelan Marxist country in very short order.
As a firefighter Captain, I am ashamed. There are two individuals to blame here. The Captain, (there side of the truck) and driver. No way in hell should that Captain have allowed his driver to make such a reckless move and not only endanger his crew but the civilians around them. It was the Captains side of the truck that got hit. Did they not see the other train coming? Regardless, whether there was a train or not, the gates were down you NEVER cross. This is gross negligence on both and they should be removed from service. No excuse. We are taught these rules as children in school. They could have killed someone. Idiots.
Well said . . .
Alright already!!!!
Never drive around an active gate arm down.
Yeah
THE DRIVER OF THAT FIRETRUCK NEEDS TO BE FIRED AND JAILED FOR RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT . THAT ACCIDENT IS 100% HIS FAULT
you need to be fired for ignorance. none of the crossing gate arms are down and none of the warning lights are active.
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets.
In most jurisdictions, it’s against the law to stop on railroad tracks, gates or no gates. The truck was there, because it was driven there, period.
@@aprilgeneric8027 BS
Exactly the safety of the truck and the crew should be the driver's primary focus. He did not even attempt to back out of that situation if he could !
Man even the Firefighters act like the laws don't apply to them! How stupid can you be crossing when the guard rails are down and the alarms & lights mind you are going off. Not only that but they're crossing ever so slowly like they have all day.
They are not "stupid" - they were complacent.
@@2catsonboat....which basically means stupid?
@@yeoldeseawitch No. Complacent is showing smug or uncritical satisfaction with oneself or one's achievements.
It is worse than stupid.
@@gregorygrimm5540 FA Real!!! These childless cat ladies!!!
@yeoldeseawitch if you think complacent means stupid then you are complacent
Let’s just save a whole ton of taxpayers dollars for an “investigation”. Roll the tape. Now everyone knows what “caused” the crash. Investigation completed.
Just need to pay one NTSB agent for a single day of work asking the fire truck driver why he was stupid enough to think he could drive around the gate, if a train passes and the gates don't go up within 10-15 seconds 99.9% of the time another train is coming.
what's amazing is the fire truck entered the tracks on the side the train was coming from. It's not like fire truck crossed from the other side and the oncoming train was obscured by the frieght train.
The firefighter who drove that, should be personally responsible for every damage and lawsuit.
That's not how things work in America.
@@onetwothreeabc And that is the exact problem.
@@TheHermitHacker Do you have any proposal to change it?
@onetwothreeabc we voted a whole new government in, much of the government will get axed. This should help clear the way to readjust laws to hold individuals responsible.
@@TheHermitHacker
Check out Sovereign Immunity in the United States. Let's hope the new government can do something about it.
People just owned Delray beach the Lawyers are having a party.
very little to investigate, the fire truck ran the gates.
BL keeps hitting vechiles that won't stay behind crossing gates or respect crossing RR tracks. There are some truly stupid drivers in S FL. I live in Central FL and when we have these kind of accidents it is the same thing. Some idiot racing the train, ducking the gates, or getting stuck on the tracks. THE TRAIN HAS RIGHT OF WAY AND WILL ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!
The benefits of an underfunded and neglected education system are becoming apparent.
How often does an ignorant driver take their vehicle around down train crossing bars, thinking it is safe because one train has passed, not expecting a 2nd. Many videos show disaster because of stupidity. The driver of the firetruck could have killed many people by breaking the law.
The train won't lose in a fight. Respect that multi ton animal.
They are still trying to find out why was the fire truck on the track? It drove around the closed gates if you look at the video it shows that the gates are down. It's not rocket science.
" Investigators are still trying to figure out why a fire truck was in the crossing......" Really everyone else has figured it out. The driver effed up. Reminds me of the sheriff deputies in Colorado that parked a squad car on the tracks then put a handcuffed woman in it and ignored the blaring train horn until it was too late.
There's another YT video of a sheriffs SUV getting hit at a double track crossing. One train passed and he took off and got Tboned by the second train
whats to investigate? just ask the firetruck driver why he violated a vehicle law and the investigation is done
A train can mutilate a T-Rex - please people respect that.
Welcome to floriduuuh..
Why is a truck on the tracks
Rookie mistake
@@barnabas9677 I'll bet that "rookie" will soon be unemployed!
Who drove around the gates??
The train
That driver of the fire truck should have known better to be stopped on tracks like that waiting probably for a light to change or traffic back up. Common sense should have told them that a train was approaching when the lights were activated and crossbars come down. As a former driver/operator of fire engines and big trucks I would not have any of my vehicle sitting on tracks while waiting for a light or traffic to clear up. While waiting a train could show up and there you go - gotcha!
none of the crossing gate arms are down and none of the warning lights are active.
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets
@@aprilgeneric8027 BS
@@aprilgeneric8027 Are you kidding? The gates were down the entire time. A passing fright train went thru first. The fire truck went around the DOWN GATES thiking it was clear when the bright line hit it.
@@aprilgeneric8027 somehow everyone else managed to stop...it was the firetruck that assumed it was clear to pass without realizing the gates were still down for the 2nd train. That's how railroad crossings work.
missed opportunity for witnesses to say that "it sounded like a trainwreck"
Brightline, has had more accidents in its short time than probably Amtrak over all the years. Then again not a lot of bright drivers in fl. Just look at all the BL Accidents.
We've had light rail in Salt Lake City for over 20 years and still have almost daily auto v. train accidents. It's not just Florida.
@@cnj420 WOW that's crazy. I guess we just hear about FL more than the rest of the US.
Not even close. Amtrak has its share.
@@cdavid8139 Amtraks been around a long time. With the short time BL has been around seems like there crashes are more. Just an observation.
@@MarkTheLostTraveler It may seem that way but Amtrak has its share of issues. Peace
Has the driver of the truck been arrested yet ?
If the gates are down,
Don't go around!
Firefighters IQ tests? Is the driver the nephew of a captain?
joe bidens daughter most likely
Dei hire
WTF is wrong with these people who drive around lowered RR crossing gates?
Probably the same one's that still drink & drive.
Firetruck broke the law! Nobody's been hit by a train they get in the way. Trains don't swerve.
To protect and serve themselves..betcha no tickets are issued.
Firefighters are exactly the same as cops
Same pigs different names
ACAB includes firefighters
Public transit is amazing its other drivers that cause it to be bad.
What was the firetruck driver thinking??? Or not ???
I was a brakeman on the SCL here in Florida. When there are 2 tracks and one train passes, another train could be coming on track 2. That's what happened here.
Again, people keep blaming brightline, the train is too fast, there aren't enough warning devices, etc etc. no. _Drivers_ --including the one driving this fire truck, are stupid.
Either brightline is the only railroad with crossings in America, or they are running the trains too fast. Statistics, dude!
@@Kehk-in-a-MiG Which Brightline accident was caused by a gate failure? What does a train’s speed have to do with idiots running gates? Don't stop on the tracks and you won't get hit. Further, most of the incidents were suicide by train.
Be precise in your headline! It's a truck, not an engine!
So many impatient clueless wonders in FL. Unbelievable. A union of flat-earthers.
Arrogant to boot.
Florida, ‘nuff said…
Truth
I think it was Bill Maher who said that its like some shook the country and all the stupid people fell into Florida. Not the brightest bulbs. That's why they resent the “northern, intellectual elite.”
Brightline is not at fault
stop that train you know who we are were self-imposed hero's
How horrible ... look at those temperature scrolling across the bottom ... folks in Chicago and Des Moines are watching ... just cruel aren't you? ...
Make the Firefighters UNION pay for the coming lawsuits and damages, NOT the taxpayers….
The union isn't responsible. That's just an anti-union remark.
How is the union involved?
This happens a lot when there are two separate tracks at a railroad crossing. People see one train go by on one set of tracks and assume that the coast is clear. Only to find out there is another train heading in the opposite direction on the other track.
People should assume they know more then the crossing gates 😂😂😂
6:34 The fire truck was on the tracks because the truck driver ignored the gates and drove around them! There's no investigation needed to see what happened.
Train had a green signal. Most Emergency Services have standing orders not to cross tracks when lights are operating no matter what. Radio in a delay and wait.
Seriously??? The Del Ray FD needs to fire those idiots!!!!!
Fire truck driver wasn’t expecting a 2nd Train.
Clearly he thought it was safe to cross after 1st Train had passed.
100% his fault.
In other words he was stupid
@@shellysmith1037 It’s Florida after all.
Another train was clearing the intersection in the opposite direction. My guess is that the fire truck thought it would be clear, didn't see the other train, and drove around the crossing gate.
You would think "never drive around the crossing gates when they are down"...would be something firefighters would know?
the truck driver should NEVER be Able to Drive Again Truck or Car FOR LIFE
for His and the SAFETY and that of others this was beyond STUPID
"Investigators are still trying to figure out why there was a fire truck on the tracks"
Jeeeez, I wonder.
Train rules aren't just laws that will put you in jail, if you break them stupidly enough, they'll put you in the ground, whatever pieces they can find of you...
The rules on the RR are a train on any track, any time, any direction.
Not a firetruck on any track.
The real question here is, why is it always Brightline, and extensive vehicles?
I heard it is because they run the trains too fast through populated areas.
No, it's because people are too "slow" @@Kehk-in-a-MiG
@@Kehk-in-a-MiG No, it's because stupid people drive around lowered gates at railroad crossings. This is not a major issue anywhere else in the country. Play stupid games get stupid prizes.
@@Kehk-in-a-MiG Tri-Rail runs at the same speed (79 mph) in south Florida, and they're not constantly crashing into cars.
@@chrisconetThey run on a different railroad track, which is only a bit west of the Brightline Tracks to West Palm Beach.
I thought a bus driver was the dumbest person to have done this in Fox Lake IL. Many years ago…….but this takes the cake! What a FOOL!
The fire truck was obviously in the wrong, but here is my theory. The freight train just past, the driver not using his brain, figured it was good to go, not wanting to wait for the gates to lift. Asinine move. To those on different threads who have commented gates do not block all the lanes, yes there are cities where gates block all lanes (4 arms), but the fact is if the gate is blocking the lane in the direction of travel, that indicates not to proceed. There is no law anywhere that can regulate stupid. This cost Delray Beach millions, a fire truck about 800K and repairs to the train. I wonder if their insurance pays out in the case of traffic violation. Be sure a private vehicle insurance would not pay out.
Sounds like the firetruck ran into the train.
Look. Listen. Live. Operation Lifesaver. Why didn't the firefighters notice the wigwags down??? 😮😅
"See tracks, think trains." ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS look BOTH ways before crossing, AFTER the crossarms go up.
Aren't they supposed to stop and look both ways like busses? Maybe not.
Only really dumb people drive around lowered crossing gates; this driver is definitely promotion material.
Wonder if this was a quiet zone crossing? Not that its an immediate excuse
We see the the lights were flashing before the initial impact. So it seems like they were in a emergency thus the reason why they were in the wrong side of the road. But clearly yes it was their fault. I'm sure they were using the Horn and Sirens and did not hear nor saw the Brightline coming and blowing horns cause there were alot of noise. You can see the lights flashing from the truck. Just play it over and over and you'll see it right there.
But think about this. What would the initial impact be if you had a tillerman in the back of that fire truck?
' supply train' - Said no one ever except for a very very bad reporter.
Maybe military context. Civilian would be freight train, or cargo train (EU).
So sad..looks like the fire truck might have gotten sandwiched between the two gates after scooting thru the first one….
What is to figure out? It is clear as day on the video. The FT driver chose to go around the closed gates, end of story. Why are news announcers so dense?
So, do firefighters get qualified immunity also?
should be mentioned now that firetrucks in the u.s. are far too large and ungainly 90% of the time. like, you serve nothing but 2 story apartments and suburbs. why do have a 60 foot ladder? 😂😂😂
Good thing you didn't show the actual collision, I would've been devastated.
The camera was smashed in the collision.
@@K-wc1jp They still cut the footage before that.
"Operation LifeSaver" needs to be brought back.. Stop, Look, And Listen!! It was the Law and it saved lives.
ONLY IN FLORIDA!!!! 🤦…Folks are slow to grasp that concept!!!
That's because folks are slow in Florida.
What is this language i'm hearing, a supply train? it's a freight train, more specifically a tanking train, and a WHAT!! guard rails down??? do you mean crossing gate?????? WTH is a guard rail down.
The reporter along with the driver of that firetruck both need to be drug tested.
Not guard rails they've crossing gates.
those firefighters need to loose there jobs.
Hope the Fire Truck driver is fired and fined.
The truth is, the train actually CAN be in the wrong place.
If you look ater Europe's high speed rail, you will see that they never imagined to use a little piece of a 19th century freight line here, coupled to a few meters of a city tram line there, coupled to a few meters of kids' sandbox somewhere else to make it work. They started with a modern and well-maintained inter-city line of welded rail, already fully overhead electrified and ADDED to this a very substantial infrastructure investment to pretty much eliminate grade crossings like this. Nowhere in Europe will you be sipping your apéritif on the café terrace with high speed traing roaring past you at 300 KM/h.
An operation with the ambitions of BrightLine cannot be safely mounted with the shoestring and spaghetti budget they have allocated, but will require MUCH more infrastructure investment to fulfill its goals. They are just beginning to see the dismal future their failure holds, unless they can secure the investment needed to put the fast trains where they need to be, which is not where the people and the school buses and the fire trucks are.
FLORIDA MAN FIREFIGHTER Strikes again.
Not the brightest bulbs in Florida.
It stalled?
no, trying to drive around the gates/cars
It's hard to believe that a fire truck would disobey a crossing like this and put him and his entire team at risk, not to mention everyone in the train and on the ground. Is it possible that there was a malfunction? That the crossing arms went up when the freight train passed, and went back down after the fire truck tried to cross? I mean, it's not unheard of, human error is possible, but a mistake like that.. wow, awful. I think an investigation is definitely warranted here. So much is at risk and on the line to get this right.
The crossing gates are not controlled by humans and are fail proof. Their default setting is down. They need an electrical current to keep them raised that is broken by the train passing a point a mike up the track from the crossing. There is a wonderful video on @practicalengineering channel explaining. The scenario you explain is impossible as any malfunction wouldn't raise the arms but would lower them.
1:28 Really great coverage and timing, CBS Miami. Really lays the fear on nice and thick.
Why, oh why, does this idiocy keep happening??? Are people really that stupid? This is Third-World behaviour.
You can put OUT a fire if you can't GET to the fire.
Way too many "accidents" with an 80mph train racing thru busy towns! Now a firetruck!!??
If only there was at least 8) red flashing lights and gates down to show the driver's to stop that a train is on the way!!! 🤔 Oh, wait, there was. This driver just ignored a stop signal and broke the law by going around a gate that was clearly down! 🤦♂️
The train didn't swerve to hit the firetruck. The firetruck was illegally on the tracks! 🙄
Train tracks have been cutting through Florida, long before the cities and towns were fully developed. Idiots driving around down train track arms are the problem, not 80 mph trains.
@@cudiving2150 💯 FACTS! It drives me crazy people commenting like it's the
" trains " fault! 🙄
@@cudiving2150 I've lived in Florida all my life! Vero Beach couldn't keep up with crossings maintenance with a SLOW train for the last quarter century!!!!
On most level crossings for high-speed rail in other countries around the world you find double-crossarm gates covering all lanes of road travel. And their safety record is extremely high.
We need laws changed in the US to mandate these types of gates be used for high-speed rail level crossings in the United States.
I don't understand why thay won't build fly overs for the trains. There is so much train traffic in Florida.
Too expensive??
Do you know much that would cost? Tell us.
Other areas of the country have a similar layout with even faster trains, and yet the number of crashes and incursions aren't as high. Floridian drivers need to stop thinking they're entitled to beat trains.
@@cosmicviewer477, it's not just "drivers". There have been many malfunctions of equipment.
They don’t even have the funds to maintain what they have, maybe if you have the money they will,let you build it
Someone getting fire.
1:40 Crash and a Kaboom!
Not their first rodeo 🫎
1:10 not their first rodeo
Infrastructure. Track signal lights and arms need work all over Florida.
Umm… They drove right around the gate?
@xray606 I ended up underneath the arms coming down. The lights didn't come on first. In Delray. Last spring. I never crossed east or west on Yamato Road after that.
They drove around the gates being down
@@cammiller5516where did you read or hear that? I’ve seen no report with that info in it.
@LumiOlpero Go back and re-watch the video. The gate is clearly down and the fire truck is going around it on the wrong side of the road.
Did the Brightline engineer honk his horn? That would be required at these high speeds. He would blow the horn quite a distance up the track.
I was under the belief that Brightline was going to make the crossarms long enough to prevent vehicles from going around the gates. What happened to that? Too much money for Brightline to spend ?
In the USA, when there is traffic in both directions, we don't generally put a gate across the lanes leaving the tracks. That is because sometimes cars get caught between the gates and the drivers get confused, not realizing then can just drive through the gate and had better do so. Some other countries block all lanes coming and going.
@@GH-oi2jf Yes I am very peved that the US is not adapting - its been possible to check that the crossing is unobstructed before lowering the exit gates for easily a dechade or two. either automaticly (ladar or radar) or via CCTV.
Surprised that a fire truck driver has trouble judging the speed of an approaching train, something that novice drivers and pedestrians can have trouble with. Maybe the driver had sufficient time to get across at first but conditions changed after he was committed to getting across.
Drivers have terrible visibility out the passenger window of a fire truck due to the fact they are built several feet wider most other vehicles including other trucks. Driving them is a team effort between driver and officer “front seat passenger”, who has the responsibility of clearing intersections at red lights by calling clear to the driver before they proceed. I suspect the fire training video from this will reinforce some sort of double clear of no train coming+enough space to fully clear the intersection quickly when responding to calls, or alternatively, that trains shouldn’t be treated similarly to other intersections.
@@Dudelikescake
Several feet, SMH. They wouldn't fit on the road, people will make up anything. They are no wider then any other street legal rig on the road.
Irrelevant. The gate was down prior to the fire truck crossing the tracks. The fire truck driver decided that since he saw a stopped train one track, therefore he could ignore the gates down. There are two tracks, and the gate was down. 100% firetruck driver's fault.
Another DEI hire !!!
You know this how, white boy?
Obviously, high speed rail should be elevated above the ground. Blaming doesn't bring back the dead...but proper planning and engineering CAN prevent the loss of lives. Its poor concept is proven, over and over, with every single collision and fatality.
Trump supporters be like.....
What was the speed of the train again? A train traveling at 70plus mph at grade level crossings on a congested, business/residential area is a liability regardless of crossing gates!
Might make people I or thirty minutes an every train crossing. Some of those busy crossings would never be clear if rains went slow.
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30-40mph isn’t slow.
So speed over safety is the order in which they follow!
@@dodgeguyz 30-40 MPH is slow as hell for a passenger service
Stupid drivers are the real liability.
@@dodgeguyz This had absolutely nothing to do with train speed. It has to do with arrogance and stupidity which is the rule in Florida.
Florida was the last place a so called"high speed rail" needed to be The infrastructure is horrible.
The rails/track have been there over 100 years with accidents happening long before brightline.
@edmundanderson657 No crash of any sort has been caused by the infrastructure. No Brightline crash has been caused by derailment. No Brightline crash has been caused by gate failure. The crashes are mostly suicide by train, or arrogance/stupidity which is all too common in Florida.
The train driver had more than enough time to stop way back.
at 80mph it takes a football field per second for cR TO SLOW DOWN...TRAINS STEEL WHEELS ON SLIDE ON STEEL RAILS, IT TAKES THEM A MILE. none of the crossing gate arms are down and none of the warning lights are active.
@@aprilgeneric8027 BS
It takes trains up to a mile to strop... sometimes longer. BY the time the train engineer sees anything in front of him, its always too late to stop. All they can do it hit the brakes and try to slow down as much as possible to mitigate the impact. But it will crash regardless.
@@aprilgeneric8027 The gates and lights were all functioning. Very apparant in the video
@@aprilgeneric8027
Watch any of the videos about this. Gates are present and down with lights flashing. Fire truck drove around the fully functioning gates
If the guard rails was down there is your answer that's whose fault it was the fire departments cross between the guardrails
none of the crossing gate arms are down and none of the warning lights are active.
At 1:23 in the video, they clearly show and call out the guardrails down and the firetruck being driven diagonally across from the wrong side of the road to evade both sets
WRONG, April .... you keep repeating yourself in all your comments... can't you see the slow motion at 1:23😂?
The counterweight position on the one to the left shows gate down. Any gate down, lights and bells would be active. In looking at Google street view, there is a double set of arms on both sides of the crossing. In the cab view video the double arms are clearly down at other crossings. The question being was the other arm working or did the fire truck bust through?
Are you blind?
@@nomenclature9373 It was one single long arm that covers EB and WB. Not 4 gates like in some areas. Just 2. Fire truck drove around it via the side walk
Why in the hell would you have train crossings in the first place. Brand new train system and it’s built from the 1940s