S-Log2 vs HLG3 BEST Sony A7III Picture Profile (In-Depth Review)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I'm going to be listing the pros and cons to SLog-2 and HLG3 and taking an in-depth look at which picture profile is best for the Sony A7iii.
00:18 - Pros and cons
05:35 - Sample footage
13:37 - Summary and conclusions
SLog2 to Rec.709 LUT - luts.iwltbap.c...
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I use HLG3 with the Leeming LUT. Great combination!
And thanks for comparing SLOG2 and HLG3.
My pleasure! I've heard a lot of good things about Leeming LUT - think I should check it out.
Yeah leeming lut May work of you follow his recommendation: ettr
If you expose differently it won’t work the image will be to dark
I also have the Leeming Luts with HLG3 . And I agree. It is a great combo!! Highly recommended!
cheers man! nice content. keep it up! I'm sure you gonna get wider audience soon!
Thanks man!
I must admit that you’re explaining very good, I am happy to find you on TH-cam, big like and subscribe.
Awesome, thank you!
Great Video and Amazing luts!! these are the only 2 profiles i shoot in... great information! well presented!! and i wish i could have someone scratch my knees like in the sample video!! subbed!!
All good comments here and this might be the first bad one. After the compression of TH-cam, the artefacts from s-log2 are not visible at all or alternatively, they are the same as on HLG.
I literally watched 10 more videos which titles says "Best Sony A7III picture profiles" and everybody is telling a different thing which is best. Don't listen all those guys, because you will get more confused... Just go outside and test it for yourself, please!
+1
Thanks Rino for your straight to the point video! Good job! You have a new sub, keep those videos coming!
Appreciate it!
this video is the best video on TH-cam that explains the real differences between S-log2 and HLG3, I just have a question is that really both of them have the same dynamic range?
I ran a test earlier this week and it looks to me that S-log2 has the better dynamic range.
@@rynonortje so which one do you recommend me to choose for the sony A73 camera for real estate video S-log2 or HLG3?
@@firesmaug3214 I shoot a lot of real estate and have done a lot of testing. HLG3 is the one for me, its a lot more versatile. The S-Log2 falls apart in anything other than ideal lighting conditions.
@@rynonortje thank you so much, I'm just worry and confused about something, Is there a limited lifespan of a camera sensor and the number of photos and videos can produce before it start getting tired or decrease the quality of the content? and if it is then how many photo or video the Sony a73 can take before it die?
and secondly is it really that videos hurt the camera sensor more badly than photo and can reduce its lifespan? because I heard that when you take video you're exposing your camera senor to pick up more dust which is (the greatest enemy of sensor) more than photos because the shutter speed take longer time than photos to shut down especially for mirrorless camera like sony?
I can assure you that your camera wont die just because you filmed something with it. In a mirrorless camera the sensor is always "open", no matter if you're taking pictures or videos. The only damage that can occur is a mechanical damage, like the shutter not closing and opening anymore, but on mirrorless cameras the shutter is electronic (this is why you have a silent mode for shooting photos) so even if it broke you could still theoretically work with you camera. I have cleaned my sensor just today because there was dust on it, no big deal. I know it can be scary but cameras are a durable piece of tech. I have filmed with sand, dirt, water etc. I have had water on my lens and all that stuff, don't worry about it. If you can avoid dust and water it's better, but don't stress about it if you get some on your lens or sensor
Thank you!
The problem I have with slog 2 is the amount of noise once I start grading partially because of that 800iso minimum. Hlg3 and Cine4 works best for me.
All of those milky looking, oversaturated commercials-- S-Log2.
@@Flashback_Jack it doesnt look good in 8bit color
@@vito9087
Unfortunately with S-Log2, some degree of noise reduction will always be necessary in post, whether that's by using a noise reduction tool or by creative use of curves.
Just last night I shot a test video in my dark apartment with a single LED lamp on and ended up with a lot of noise at 0dB. In post, a little bit of pulling back on the shadows and s slight upward curve on the deep shadows and it was all but gone.
That was really helpful!!! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing!
I like your video. You have a good way of explaining things. I'm subscribing to see where you will take this channel.
One question, I'm usually pretty good with accents but I can't quite
figure out where you are from. I have 3 possibilities in mind.
New Zealand
Australia
South Africa.
Cheers !
Hi Bill, thanks for the sub! I'm from South Africa.
Thank you so much....super useful!!
I've watched a lot of videos. This is a good one. Thanks. HLG3 it is. Until I can afford an a7siii, lol. Will need to explore the knee settings.
Nice comparision. I exactly found the same issues. Could resolve them with slight chroma noise reduction on slog2, bending in skies is still there unfortunatelly. Which HLG3 color space do you use? Rec709 or BT2020? What do you prefer and why? Cheers!
Thanks for the tip! I've been using Rec709 - prefer the way colour it gives me in the skin tones.
subscribed!
got my sony a6600 and ready to play!
i'm mainly using HLG2
would love to see a grading tutorial for that!
Hey siko! Thanks for the sub and the suggestion. I'll work on putting together a video on some of my colour grading workflow.
Good review.
Good one. I'll try your pack for some of my slog2 footage and see how. Thanks~ Subbed~
Can you please make a video for the right export setting for TH-cam in premiere pro. Thank you.
Hi karadytube, in your export settings set your format to h.264 and use one of the TH-cam presets, they tend to work pretty well.
Ryno Nortje Thank you for your fast answer.
yeah i did some tests BREIFLy and it seems like hlg3 can holds it on. plus many point out slog is better if you have 10 bits which the a7 III cant do. lol so yeah!
Thank you for sharing your expérience about color grading, can you tell if you choose BT2020 or REC709 on your picture profile ? Did you used a color checker for you WB ?
I go for REC709 and didn't use a colour checker on the WB.
Are we able to follow 180 degree shutter rules and save the highlights in hlg3 colour profile without an nd on a very sunny day?
thanks brotha! I've a question though; how do you over expose? +0.3, +0.7 or +1?
Cheers!
No sweat! When shooting S-Log I expose between +1.7 and +2.0
Ryno Nortje how about HLG3 ?
Been experimenting with exposing it +0.7 and its giving me pretty good footage to work with in post. How about you?
I even went up to +1.7. Since it's possible to adjust the highlights I didn't have any issues.
Thanks
thanks great!
thanks
When shooting with Slog3
Exposure +2 is recommended
So what about the HLG3?
You mention highlight handling, and rolloff...you don't mention your KNEE settings for HLG3. KNEE setttings can have a dramatic affect on the highlights of HLG. I am not sure if Slog allows for any sort of knee, if not, this could be the difference you see in highlights, the HLG default knee allowing highlights to blow out more?
Do you shoot HLG in 2020?
Look forward to your update with the a7siii. Mine arrives tomorrow :)
thanks from iraq
Waiting for that a7IV!
Like you can't believe - its long overdue.
Nice video my friend
When using HLG3 settings what else do I change as far as black level, black gamma, knee, saturation, phase, depth?
All of the HLG3 footage in this is shot with standard settings, the only change is setting it to Rec.709.
I suggest you in the next just made everything bigger because I cannot see anything there
question to any one who can help: computer plays hlg file but in windows player it's way over exposed to view, but once in premiere it's back to how it looked when I shot it on camera. is there a way to play hlg footage so it looks exposed properly before you import the files to premiere?
Maybe try installing a different playback software like VLC.
What ap do u use for vidioes?
did you use HLG3 default settings? or tweaked it ?
Did a slight tweak in the colour mode but haven't experimented with anything else yet.
i have a scene to shoot where it is an interrogation room, with one light directed on the criminal's face, should i use slog2 or hlg3?
I would personally use HLG3, however it would be useful for you to set up a test shot with both picture profiles and see which is going to serve your needs. All the best with your shoot!
@@rynonortje thank you dear. i will monitor a test shoot on the macbook pro's screen so that i get the look i want and the least noise!
Hy bro are you from South Africa at Ballito?
Yebo.
Never use luts
You need to know what the lut expect your exposure to be in order to work properly
I doubt that the slog lut expect 2 stops of overexposure
South African ?
Yebo (yes)!
Dude like stop looking at your notes in camera! At least cut the video at those moment or play some broll over it. Painful to watch
I use HLG-3 night time to reduce the noise that I would get from S-log 2. Is it correct ?