NO, they DIDN'T AGE the actor RICHARD LYNCH! According to IMDb and Wiki, in 1967 after taking LSD (acid), he SET HIMSELF ON FIRE in New York City's Central Park. He made use of his scarred face to play sinister-looking characters in horror films. He was also the antagonist in the Chuck Norris movie "Invasion U.S.A.".
Danielle Harris aged beautifully. She around 30-31 when this movie was filmed and easily passes as a teenager. Big difference between that and the original where Laurie and her friends all look like they're 25 at least.
John Carpenter’s Micheal is a silent razor blade in the night, Rob Zombie’s Micheal is wrecking ball with a pulse that’s also constantly on fire. Like fast zombies or slow zombies, it’s all a matter of taste.
Well put. I don't understand it when people say. Zombie ruined Halloween! It's ridiculous. You'd think Rob burned all the copies of the original and said, "my Halloween is the only one that matters" lol The guy made a remake, which didn't copy the original. In fact he took the o.g. idea and did a, "What if?" If you like it, cool. If you don't, watch the original, or the newest ones. The only Director we should be angry with, is George Lucas because he has changed the originals and has not given us a choice. Not in high quality at least. Take care and thanks for being a real fan. It's nice to see every once in awhile. Lol Cheers from Canada
The guy who played the principal is a character actor that has been in a billion sci-fi / horror movies. He isn't aged up he's actually old. While Jamie Lee Curtis will always be my Scream Queen, I didn't think this movie was bad or that it deserved the HATRED it got. I'll say this about Mom Myers/Rob Zombie's wife... she made me feel very sorry for her. I felt she convinced me she was a basically loving mom who married a violent moron and tried so hard to help her family even stripping to keep her kids fed. She didn't deserve her fate.
And, apparently, he set himself on fire while tripping on acid back in the sixties. He's always looked weird in every movie I've seen him in, so I believe it.
Really, I did not know that! I always found him frightening but I kind of feel bad for making fun of him now. I really should have recognised the burn marks. My Father was a fire fighter and I saw a lot of crazy shit!! But I do think Richard Lynch is a great B actor and that the entire movie was filled with horror movie favorites!! Regardless of your opinion, regarding his movies. I don't think we can argue if he's a hardcore fan or not! I remember the first time I heard him use dialogue from Night of the Living Dead, in one of his songs! I bought the album the next day!! Lol Cheers from Canada
Also, I think Sheri Moon is almost always casted in Rob Zombie's movies. She was one of the main characters in The House of A Thousand Corpses, The Devil's Rejects and Three From Hell.
I love Danielle Harris. She really got a raw deal when they did H6 especially since she carried 2 movies herself ! But I remember seeing a interview where she said that she told Tyler Mane to like really go hard at her, make it look as real as possible, I dunno if he really clocked her but throwing her around snatching her back in the house an dragging her bare ass nips across the floor was real 👏🏼👏🏼
Same with Danny Trejo. Tyler was worried about holding his head underwater for too long, but Danny pushed him to go longer and even held his head down when Tyler tried to pull him back out.
The fact that Tyler Mane and Ken Foree broke a real bathroom stall with their bodies and really pushed each other hard in that scene says miles of how the actors brought their A game. They are giant dudes and the behind the scenes footage of that scene is crazy.
It was like HHH & Austin, beating on Lita (and the Hardys), back in the day! Brutal destruction. ,This Myers is really like a wrestler, who comes in and just destroys everything!! Brutal. Cheers from Canada
I don't know if you covered these but: 1. Laurie Strode's Mom (the one who adopted Laurie) is Dee Wallace (the Mother from ET) Joe Grizzly the trucker was in the original Dawn of the Dead movie as a cop. The guy who sold the gun to Dr. Loomis was played by singer Micky Dolenz who is the last remaining member of the 1960s group The Monkees.
Almost every adult speaking role is played by a B horror actor from the past!! Rob Zombie loves horror movies and the casting (plus his music) proves this. The Principal is Richard Lynch. The cemetary caretaker is the Clown, from Devil's rejects, (which also had Ken Foree in it). The stepfather is William Forsythe. One of the bullies was in Spy Kids. The Sheriff is Brad Douriff aka Chucky. The nice prison guard is played by Machete himself, Danny Trejo. A man who was in prison, back in the 60's, which makes his line about being locked up, true for the actor. The list goes on and on. It's crazy! Cheers from Canada
Honestly Rob did a really good job with this one. I liked the brutality and monster like Micheal Myers. Even though they did try and humanize him, it was still different and a nice twist to actually see something a little different. I also love the fact that Danielle Harris is in both of them as Annie. For those who don't know, shes Jamie Loyd in 4 and 5. I also enjoyed Brad Dourif as Brackett. Nice to see the voice of CHUCKY in a different scary movie role.
Exactly! It's almost two seperate movies. The first part is different, wich is always better than boring rehashes. The 2nd half is more familiar but still has surprises! Cheers from Canada
Michael's escape was actually very different in the theatrical cut. Rob Zombie directs his way and the second one is one of my favorites. The reigns were off when he directed the 2nd halloween so you can see it's more his way.
@@Dee1nOnly92Couldn’t agree more. That version showed he was waiting for the right moment and how truly fucked they were. They weren’t dealing with a man but a force of nature. A shape.
@@deadbynightupbylunch exactly, like he was plotting it all along waiting on the right moment and it just so happend to fall on Halloween. The night it all started
@@markmac2206 the point of him being intimidated before he kills is that he blends in and isn’t taken seriously as he looks like everyone else with the mask or without, him being 5’10 or even 6’0 is something people won’t care to look twice at on Halloween Why do I as a non fan understand this better than the director and writers?
I really like it too! I agree with Mr. You Me & The Movies (sorry, I do not know his name. haha), that not knowing his backstory makes him scarier, but a backstory does make him more interesting. I think there is good in both approaches and I am glad Rob Zombie went for it and added more layers and did it well!
The mystery of it all is that we don't know why Michael is the way he is. That's what makes him terrifying . I like the pure evil Michael of the originals. This is a kid who turned psychotic because he was abused.
Debra Hill wrote the dialogue of girl talk in John Carpenter's Halloween. John Carpenter wrote Dr Sam Loomis, Michael Myers etc. So the 1978 girls talking, written by a New Jersey woman, Loomis & Michael was a Kentucky Boy. Rob Zombie wrote this movie if I remember correctly.
Reminds me of something someone said on a horror forum. "Debra Hill wrote the dialogue for the girls in the original because she knew how girls talked. Rob Zombie wrote how he thought girls talked and made their mouths as filthy as his beard."
@@Verasoul I've never seen them myself this disgusting. I don't necessarily disagree, but I didn't know high-school broads in 2001-2005, my stint, who were anywhere close to this disgusting. Laurie's joke to her foster parents 👉 🥯 was gross and I've never seen that and the parents not lose their mind rightfully so.
What I loved most about this version was the inclusion of past actresses coming back to play different parts. The lady from H1-2 (shes in the hospital at the end. Her and that state cop show up as Michael is about to come in theough the glass doors) she plays that nurse and Little Jamie from 4-5 plays Lauries friend in this one. Danielle Harris.
Yes! Oh my god, I never thought about it this way, but this could be a great way to view the movie if you don't like it within the classic franchise - kind of like how in the second Scream movie they have an "in-universe" movie about the events of the first one called "Stab" - and that one, also, is completely over-the-top and full of cliches :)
Great reaction! Considering that the original Halloween is my favourite movie ever made, it feels weird saying i love the first half of this best. To me the second half just feels like a rushed version of the original, thankfully though, that part does include Danielle Harris, who i love.
@markmac2206 Hence why Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 was so bad. When I saw that I thought Donald Pleaseance must be rolling in his grave with what Rob Zombie did to his iconic character.
I think if the guard told him he could leave rather than tell him he had to cuff him and put him back in his room Michael might've spared him. But who knows.
The theme song is different, they're all different versions of the John Carpenter's 1978, but 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, H2O, Resurrection, Zombie all have variations. And Halloween 2018 while its simply ok, John's soundtrack was really good especially Alyson's Theme, that one sounded like it could be from Christine, Big Trouble
One of the most messed up things in this film is michael's older sister is played by the actress who played little jenny in forrest gump! And laurie's friend annie is played by danielle harris who was michael's little niece in halloween 4 and 5
Plenty of Ends fans say that movie is original because it shows Haddonfield assisting in creating a tortured serial killer - yeah, we got that already in the Zombie remake lol Now onto RZ’s Halloween 2, where we get a bunch of survivor trauma that JLC pretended never existed until 2018 lol
@@markmac2206Halloween fans are probably the most pretentious and annoying fans of a longrunning horror franchise. They actually believe the original is a meditation on the nature of evil, or something. So a lot of them justify the terrible sequels (through what I believe has to be nostalgia blindness because everything they hate about the Zombie films is present in every sequel starting at Halloween II. They ruined the mystery of Michael, revealed his motive, turned the suspense thriller into a gorey slasher where pointless idiots get killed the whole time) when Halloween 5 and 6 especially do everything they despise about the Zombie film. Not liking the movie is fine, but the Halloween fans declare that “the franchise is ruined!!!” every single time there’s a new movie. So just ignore them while they praise John Carpenter’s genius for a character and a franchise he doesn’t give a shit about and only made back then as a cheapo movie to make some box office dollars.
I'm convinced his films are bad revenge fanfics where the killers are his self inserts and have the same upbringing he did. He portrays the villains of his films as badass anti heroes because he thinks he's one and has all the victims act like OTT assholes because they're fictional versions of real people he hates.
I always forget Ken Foree (Joe Grizzly) was in this. If you guys have never seen the original dawn of the dead, he was one of the main protagonists in that one. Classic horror movie, I'd recommend it even if it is a bit aged.
Hell Yeah!! He's Joe Grizzly, Bitch! Please allow me to add a little to your Dawn of the Dead comment. If you have not seen the original Dawn of the Dead and you are getting in to horror, or haven't got to it yet...please, find that movie and watch it right now :) Seriously, the Zach Snyder version (2004), is great but after you have seen the original. You will look back on it, as a great moment, in your movie watching career :) I should not be raising the expectations of younger fans but the movie is a must. The most important thing, is to watch it alone, or in a small, quiet group. Watch it all at once. It's one of those movies, that needs your full attention and immersion. If you treat it well, it will reward you. The effects, or look of the Zombies, did not turn out as well as originally intended. Don't let that distract you. The Gore Zone of the 80's was on it's way but not perfected yet but there are still some great, gore moments! The movie is more than that. It's about the characters, the location and situation!! That is what I Love about it. Cheers from Canada and remember: 'ZOMBIE'S R4 LIFE' :)
I’m supposed to be this huge horror fan and didn’t even notice that cop is the actor that played Charles Lee ray and iconic voice of child’s play movies until yall said it and I’m 42 i should definitely know this lol
I think the version of Myers we get when he’s fully an adult in costume is pretty scary and brutal. I didn’t care about the backstory they tried to give him in this remake the whole white trash family (Rob Zombie’s signature) and the bullied stuff. The moment the movie becomes the traditional Halloween it’s great.
Malcolm McDowell was the star of "A Clockwork Orange." and also had a number of guest spots on "South Park"(As "A British Person").He also voiced Death on "Castlevania" Season 4.
I found it funny that they didn't know who he was but they knew who did the voice of Chucky. But I guess not everybody has watched Clockwork Orange a hundred times.
*There is actually A good documentary on the making of this movie. it goes for about 4 hours and goes from pre-production all the way through shooting. even if you aren't a fan of this movie, it shows a good behind the scenes on how movies are produced and shot*
Just remembered,when John Carpenter was making this movie ,he sent the prop crew to to store for a plain ordinary mask.they came back with a Captain Kirk mask modeled after William Shatner and just painted it white.🎃🎃🎃
@@HTHAMMACK1eh. I think he’s a different type of terrifying in each. Love him in the new ones. but something about this one, his size and the look of the mask I really like.
@@HTHAMMACK1I love the new trilogy (with the exception of Kills), but I didn’t find Michael in the least bit terrifying in any of them. The original, however, I agree with. But I think Tyler Mane is infinitely scarier than James Jude Courtney.
13:00 He's actually telling the truth. The actor, Danny Trejo is. He spent time in prison, dealt drugs and was a user, back in the 60's but has been out and drug free since 1969. He got into acting in the mid 80's. Machete's real life story is fascinating and should be made into a movie!
I love this take on Michael. I love the original too, but I like seeing how he got this way. Most of Rob Zombie's movies are not for me at all, but I dig this one
Not going to lie, the 2nd half of this movie is good. I don’t care about the first half. 2nd movie, good lord, hold onto your hat. Also not a huge fan of the weird jokes throughout the movie. It’s like zombie tried really hard to make every character unlikable and somewhat trashy. The only people I felt bad about was the mom, the boyfriend, and the baby at the very beginning. Also Laurie’s adoptive parents and janitor.
That's cool! I didn't know about the podcast. Is Compton still acting? I don't remember the last thing I saw her in and she is very good in this one. I won't get in to the 2nd one...yet. ;) Cheers from Canada
@TTV.KasperVideoGame To be fair, the original idea Zombie had in mind could've worked had this been their own franchise and not directly related to Halloween. Zombie wanted to try and do Michael Myers: Portrait of a Serial Killer, but because the characters are named Michael Myers or Laurie Strode, we hate their interpretations here. Like if the family had been changed from being named Myers, it might've been a interesting change. Similar to how Leatherface in his remake wasn't from the Sawyer family, but from the Hewlett family, and some people like that change.
Me personally, even as a kid, have never understood the fascination with Carpenter's "he's just crazy" take. I mean, go to jail, there are a hundred Michael Myers. You know what they don't have? Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger. Lol Idk, this and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remakes made me bigger fans of Mike and Leatherface (I used to fall asleep to the originals). 🤷♂️
Fine movie as a standalone. But yeah, much prefer the lack of background to what turned Michael evil, whereas in this one, it almost tries to justify his actions somewhat.
5:50 "Why did they age this man?" LoL I'm sorry but I have been scared of Richard Lynch, since I was a kid! That Man don't need no make-up, he just looks like that. He might be a super guy irl but he sure does freak me out. Great casting in this. Especially the small parts. Rob Zombie knows his horror history. That is for sure!
That's really cool. I did see the original in a theater but it was in the mid 90's. So it doesn't count but it was amazing, seeing it with people in a full theater and hearing legit reactions, from people who had never seen the movie!! Thank the film Gods for repertory theaters! Lol Cheers from Canada
@@nsasupporter7557 a group of psycho hillbillies kidnap a group of people and force them to play a murderous game where they have to survive the night being stalked by various rampaging psychopaths including a Mexican Midget who’s dressed like Hitler. If that description doesn’t sell you, nothing will.
he never wanted to hurt his lol sister or mom, cuz they were the only 2 people who never hurt him...in the original the only reason he tried to kill Laurie is cuz she tried to hurt him once he killed her friends, cuz she was scared and didn't know what was goin on or why, so when she did that, he wanted to kill her too...if u remember, he would always hesitate when it came to her
No, in the original (1978), he wasn't her brother. She was just a random babysitter he was stalking and trying to kill. They didn't do the sibling plot twist until the sequel, Halloween II (1981). John Carpenter never planned for them to be related whatsoever.
The bathroom stall scene was improvised by dude playing mike, the way he pounded dude into the stall wall. It was a actuall strong as* stall.😊 i do beleive the black dude was really impressed that the guy did that. He wasnt upset at all and was very pleased the way the scene turned out😊
Lol as far as the "teenage girl dialogue," I will say that Danielle Harris (Annie/Jamie) and Scout Taylor Compton are still good friends and have an amazing Podcast...and they still pretty much talk like this ☺ Not that I would ever want to contradict Mrs Movies!
Good reaction to this version!!! Have not seen this movie in a very long time, forgotten how many BOOBIES....I mean, how much character development there was.
Btw, that sister being killed in the start of the movie is the same actress who played Forrest Gump's Childhood crush Jenny. Yes THAT younger Jenny in the movie!!!
Michael actually did kill Jamie in H6. In the theatrical cut, he kills her; in the producer's cut, he injures her, but Dr. Wynn (aka Man in Black) finishes her off. Also, Danielle Harris only played Jamie in H4 and H5. A different actress played Jamie in H6.
I've never cared for the backstory, but everything else I enjoy. This is definitely the most brutal, terrifying and powerful version of Michael. Thx for the reaction guys.
There's a reason people say someone shouldn't try to remake someone else's masterpiece, it's because it will never be as good. The original was able to scare people without using gore. Anyone can do what Rob Zombie does using gore, it's takes a genius to scare you with almost no blood and fire people who be watching it and getting scared over 40 yrs later.
And the people who say that are wrong, because I hate the original Halloween and enjoy the remake. So, the way I see it, remakes allow people to have a different version to potentially like. Honestly, remakes are a no lose situation. If a person loves the original, but hates the remake, then they can ignore the remake. If they hate the original, but love the remake, then they have their version to enjoy. If they love both then they get to enjoy multiple versions. And if someone hates both they can just ignore them.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakIf that's all it was, the remakes wouldn't make a fuck ton of money like they do. Besides, just because idiots like you can't stand people disagreeing with them, doesn't mean the movies are shitty. So many remakes are great films and are even better than the originals. People just judge them harshly because they wear rose-tinted goggles when viewing the older films.
@Joker_JAK No, they're not "wrong", lol. If you're part of the extremely small enclave of fans who prefer the remake to the original, then good for you. But this tired act of remaking masterpieces has been proven to be nothing more than a waste of time, money, and resources with little-to-no clout to even show for it since Halloween'07 rarely gets talked about (at least in a good light).
*I saw this movie when it came out at the cinema. It was the second Halloween movie I had seen on the big screen after Resurrection. I hated this movie for years. but in the past 5 or 6 years I see it in a different way. certain scenes and shots I like so it has probably gone from a 1/10 to maybe a 6/10 for me. I think I liked the second half of the movie more to be honest. Michael beating that bully with the stick still chills me to the bone. I took one of my friends to see it in 2007 with me and she punched me after that scene and probably after a few others lol*
My grandma took me to see two different movies and regretted both immediately. Cruel intentions. I was 12…but Buffy! And the other was New Nightmare! 😱😱🤷🏾♂️👍🏾😂
Also Danielle Harris didn’t play Jamie in 6. They recast her because they refused to pay her a fair price despite the fact she was in the previous 2 movies.
5:47 That man is Richard Lynch. He played a lot of villains. He burned himself when he took some LSD in the 60's and has looked like that since I can remember lol
so in the original story was told in the victim's perspective that's why Michael was a normal human in this story is told in Michael's perspective so he saw himself big
i had a Michael Myers mask but it melted on the top shelf in the closet we have in the den stuck together so it sadly got ruined i got a few years use of it it cost 60 . jump suit ripped a year before that .
@@Deathbird_Mitch umm no iam not doing mask this year iam being a witch so i will worry about it next year i can find a cheap one on amazon anyways . plus i need the jump suit but aim really short so i have to get it taken up and there isnt much time .
was wondering if this was gonna be a May or October upload. this first one is great reaction material but the second one is just weird, although, I don’t remember what cut I saw or if there even was different versions.
Probably an unpopular opinion but this version is my favorite version of Halloween. Rob Zombie’s part two is just bizarre…no where near as good as this one imo
NO, they DIDN'T AGE the actor RICHARD LYNCH! According to IMDb and Wiki, in 1967 after taking LSD (acid), he SET HIMSELF ON FIRE in New York City's Central Park.
He made use of his scarred face to play sinister-looking characters in horror films. He was also the antagonist in the Chuck Norris movie "Invasion U.S.A.".
Lynch was an amazing character actor.
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Danielle Harris aged beautifully. She around 30-31 when this movie was filmed and easily passes as a teenager. Big difference between that and the original where Laurie and her friends all look like they're 25 at least.
Jamie Lee Curtis was 18 during the filming of the original Halloween.
Like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. They aged like wine, while DiCaprio aged like milk.
@@serpentsepia6638she’s always looked a bit like a grandma. The way they dressed her didn’t help lol
She's still gorgeous
John Carpenter’s Micheal is a silent razor blade in the night, Rob Zombie’s Micheal is wrecking ball with a pulse that’s also constantly on fire. Like fast zombies or slow zombies, it’s all a matter of taste.
Well put. I don't understand it when people say. Zombie ruined Halloween!
It's ridiculous. You'd think Rob burned all the copies of the original and said, "my Halloween is the only one that matters" lol
The guy made a remake, which didn't copy the original. In fact he took the o.g. idea and did a, "What if?"
If you like it, cool. If you don't, watch the original, or the newest ones.
The only Director we should be angry with, is George Lucas because he has changed the originals and has not given us a choice. Not in high quality at least.
Take care and thanks for being a real fan. It's nice to see every once in awhile. Lol
Cheers from Canada
Michael not Micheal
@@disclaimer.imjokin
Michelle Myers*
Pretty much
One is a generic serial killer while the other is an interesting incarnation of evil.
The guy who played the principal is a character actor that has been in a billion sci-fi / horror movies. He isn't aged up he's actually old.
While Jamie Lee Curtis will always be my Scream Queen, I didn't think this movie was bad or that it deserved the HATRED it got.
I'll say this about Mom Myers/Rob Zombie's wife... she made me feel very sorry for her. I felt she convinced me she was a basically loving mom who married a violent moron and tried so hard to help her family even stripping to keep her kids fed. She didn't deserve her fate.
reminds me of Norma in Bates Motel.
And, apparently, he set himself on fire while tripping on acid back in the sixties. He's always looked weird in every movie I've seen him in, so I believe it.
Really, I did not know that! I always found him frightening but I kind of feel bad for making fun of him now.
I really should have recognised the burn marks. My Father was a fire fighter and I saw a lot of crazy shit!!
But I do think Richard Lynch is a great B actor and that the entire movie was filled with horror movie favorites!!
Regardless of your opinion, regarding his movies. I don't think we can argue if he's a hardcore fan or not!
I remember the first time I heard him use dialogue from Night of the Living Dead, in one of his songs!
I bought the album the next day!! Lol
Cheers from Canada
Her name is Sheri Moon, and she's been considered a top Scream Queen herself.
Also, I think Sheri Moon is almost always casted in Rob Zombie's movies. She was one of the main characters in The House of A Thousand Corpses, The Devil's Rejects and Three From Hell.
I love Danielle Harris. She really got a raw deal when they did H6 especially since she carried 2 movies herself ! But I remember seeing a interview where she said that she told Tyler Mane to like really go hard at her, make it look as real as possible, I dunno if he really clocked her but throwing her around snatching her back in the house an dragging her bare ass nips across the floor was real 👏🏼👏🏼
Same with Danny Trejo. Tyler was worried about holding his head underwater for too long, but Danny pushed him to go longer and even held his head down when Tyler tried to pull him back out.
@@Verasoul that was the biggest stretch for me in that movie … bad ass DT acting like anyone could whip him 🤷🏻♂️ but Tyler pulled it off 👏🏼👏🏼
The fact that Tyler Mane and Ken Foree broke a real bathroom stall with their bodies and really pushed each other hard in that scene says miles of how the actors brought their A game. They are giant dudes and the behind the scenes footage of that scene is crazy.
It was like HHH & Austin, beating on Lita (and the Hardys), back in the day!
Brutal destruction. ,This Myers is really like a wrestler, who comes in and just destroys everything!! Brutal.
Cheers from Canada
Danielle definitely got a raw deal, so disrespectful
I don't know if you covered these but:
1. Laurie Strode's Mom (the one who adopted Laurie) is Dee Wallace (the Mother from ET)
Joe Grizzly the trucker was in the original Dawn of the Dead movie as a cop.
The guy who sold the gun to Dr. Loomis was played by singer Micky Dolenz who is the last remaining member of the 1960s group The Monkees.
Thank you for pointing these facts out.
They told him it was a midget force, they needed someone to look up to.
Almost every adult speaking role is played by a B horror actor from the past!!
Rob Zombie loves horror movies and the casting (plus his music) proves this.
The Principal is Richard Lynch. The cemetary caretaker is the Clown, from Devil's rejects, (which also had Ken Foree in it). The stepfather is William Forsythe. One of the bullies was in Spy Kids. The Sheriff is Brad Douriff aka Chucky. The nice prison guard is played by Machete himself, Danny Trejo. A man who was in prison, back in the 60's, which makes his line about being locked up, true for the actor.
The list goes on and on.
It's crazy!
Cheers from Canada
Honestly Rob did a really good job with this one. I liked the brutality and monster like Micheal Myers. Even though they did try and humanize him, it was still different and a nice twist to actually see something a little different. I also love the fact that Danielle Harris is in both of them as Annie. For those who don't know, shes Jamie Loyd in 4 and 5. I also enjoyed Brad Dourif as Brackett. Nice to see the voice of CHUCKY in a different scary movie role.
Exactly! It's almost two seperate movies. The first part is different, wich is always better than boring rehashes.
The 2nd half is more familiar but still has surprises!
Cheers from Canada
its shit
Michael's escape was actually very different in the theatrical cut. Rob Zombie directs his way and the second one is one of my favorites. The reigns were off when he directed the 2nd halloween so you can see it's more his way.
Yes i love how he fought the prison guards and escaped while being transported. That scene was far better than the rape version
@@Dee1nOnly92Couldn’t agree more. That version showed he was waiting for the right moment and how truly fucked they were. They weren’t dealing with a man but a force of nature. A shape.
Yeah I prefer that version over the r*pe scene
Which is why the theatrical cut is the superior version imo
@@deadbynightupbylunch exactly, like he was plotting it all along waiting on the right moment and it just so happend to fall on Halloween. The night it all started
I thought this was a solid remake and this was definitely the scariest Michael Myers.
I agree! There's way too much hate for this film.
Cuz they made him a giant for no reason, anyone would be scared
That’s part of why this movie is bad
@@ninjanibba4259 on the other hand, with all due respect, nobody is scared of scrawny Nick Castle. or the Ends version of Michael.
@@markmac2206 the point of him being intimidated before he kills is that he blends in and isn’t taken seriously as he looks like everyone else with the mask or without, him being 5’10 or even 6’0 is something people won’t care to look twice at on Halloween
Why do I as a non fan understand this better than the director and writers?
Tyler mane was absolutely terrifying
I actually love that Rob gave Michael Myers a backstory
I really like it too! I agree with Mr. You Me & The Movies (sorry, I do not know his name. haha), that not knowing his backstory makes him scarier, but a backstory does make him more interesting.
I think there is good in both approaches and I am glad Rob Zombie went for it and added more layers and did it well!
Me too
yeah it's a new take on the character
@@jeroenceulemans3715 Yeah, I guess both versions have their advantages
The mystery of it all is that we don't know why Michael is the way he is. That's what makes him terrifying . I like the pure evil Michael of the originals. This is a kid who turned psychotic because he was abused.
Debra Hill wrote the dialogue of girl talk in John Carpenter's Halloween. John Carpenter wrote Dr Sam Loomis, Michael Myers etc. So the 1978 girls talking, written by a New Jersey woman, Loomis & Michael was a Kentucky Boy.
Rob Zombie wrote this movie if I remember correctly.
Reminds me of something someone said on a horror forum. "Debra Hill wrote the dialogue for the girls in the original because she knew how girls talked. Rob Zombie wrote how he thought girls talked and made their mouths as filthy as his beard."
@@Xehanort10that's a great quote. It's for the most part just gross, Zombie's.
Good to know.
I don't see a problem with the girl group dialogue in this movie. A lot of girls are pretty vulgar amongst themselves.
@@Verasoul I've never seen them myself this disgusting. I don't necessarily disagree, but I didn't know high-school broads in 2001-2005, my stint, who were anywhere close to this disgusting. Laurie's joke to her foster parents 👉 🥯 was gross and I've never seen that and the parents not lose their mind rightfully so.
What I loved most about this version was the inclusion of past actresses coming back to play different parts. The lady from H1-2 (shes in the hospital at the end. Her and that state cop show up as Michael is about to come in theough the glass doors) she plays that nurse and Little Jamie from 4-5 plays Lauries friend in this one. Danielle Harris.
Hell yes! It was a dream cast, for horror movie fans!
and the girl from Forest Gump I think
The principal played by Richard Lynch accidentally set himself on fire when he was younger. thats just his face.
You know, this feels like it could be an 'in-universe' movie about Michael Myers.
Like a movie you'd see made about him in the Halloween canon.
Oh my gosh I could TOTALLY see that!!
Yes! Oh my god, I never thought about it this way, but this could be a great way to view the movie if you don't like it within the classic franchise - kind of like how in the second Scream movie they have an "in-universe" movie about the events of the first one called "Stab" - and that one, also, is completely over-the-top and full of cliches :)
Great reaction! Considering that the original Halloween is my favourite movie ever made, it feels weird saying i love the first half of this best. To me the second half just feels like a rushed version of the original, thankfully though, that part does include Danielle Harris, who i love.
And Brad Dourif of course, who i also love.
I like how Dr. Loomis is depicted, how he wanted to help Michael, and feels regretful he couldn’t, it’s good pathos
and then they wrecked him in pt2.
@markmac2206 Hence why Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 was so bad. When I saw that I thought Donald Pleaseance must be rolling in his grave with what Rob Zombie did to his iconic character.
@@NightRanger-lz6tpbro it’s a movie character
But then exploits him and his victims for money.
This was definitely the scariest Michael Myers. Tyler Mane is a big guy. He played the original Sabertooth in the First X-Men movie.
I think if the guard told him he could leave rather than tell him he had to cuff him and put him back in his room Michael might've spared him. But who knows.
Michael definitely would of sparred him, he was like the only guy who was nice to Michael.
Please if you guys plan on watching the second one, please watch the directors cut!
Ooooo ! Need to get hold of that myself.
Yes please - the director’s cut adds so much to Laurie
Definitely the directors cut. 👍👍👍🇺🇸
@o0pinkdino0o it's 10x better
@@josephcooley6509 What does the US flag mean?
Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be scared if you saw 6’8 Michael Myers
More like 6’10 😂
The theme song is different, they're all different versions of the John Carpenter's 1978, but 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, H2O, Resurrection, Zombie all have variations. And Halloween 2018 while its simply ok, John's soundtrack was really good especially Alyson's Theme, that one sounded like it could be from Christine, Big Trouble
One of the most messed up things in this film is michael's older sister is played by the actress who played little jenny in forrest gump! And laurie's friend annie is played by danielle harris who was michael's little niece in halloween 4 and 5
How is that messed up.
Seeing little Jenny nude is so hot
Plenty of Ends fans say that movie is original because it shows Haddonfield assisting in creating a tortured serial killer - yeah, we got that already in the Zombie remake lol
Now onto RZ’s Halloween 2, where we get a bunch of survivor trauma that JLC pretended never existed until 2018 lol
those Ends fans despise this movie. they make no sense.
@@markmac2206Halloween fans are probably the most pretentious and annoying fans of a longrunning horror franchise. They actually believe the original is a meditation on the nature of evil, or something. So a lot of them justify the terrible sequels (through what I believe has to be nostalgia blindness because everything they hate about the Zombie films is present in every sequel starting at Halloween II. They ruined the mystery of Michael, revealed his motive, turned the suspense thriller into a gorey slasher where pointless idiots get killed the whole time) when Halloween 5 and 6 especially do everything they despise about the Zombie film.
Not liking the movie is fine, but the Halloween fans declare that “the franchise is ruined!!!” every single time there’s a new movie. So just ignore them while they praise John Carpenter’s genius for a character and a franchise he doesn’t give a shit about and only made back then as a cheapo movie to make some box office dollars.
Rob Zombie screenplays are written in the margins of an edgy teenager's school binder.
He's to horror what Zack Snyder is to action and superhero stuff. Both pretentious.
His obsession/fetish with white trailer trash in his films is super annoying.
I'm convinced his films are bad revenge fanfics where the killers are his self inserts and have the same upbringing he did. He portrays the villains of his films as badass anti heroes because he thinks he's one and has all the victims act like OTT assholes because they're fictional versions of real people he hates.
His movies are grindhouse homages
@@chasejackson7248 What's your point?
I always forget Ken Foree (Joe Grizzly) was in this. If you guys have never seen the original dawn of the dead, he was one of the main protagonists in that one. Classic horror movie, I'd recommend it even if it is a bit aged.
Hell Yeah!!
He's Joe Grizzly, Bitch!
Please allow me to add a little to your Dawn of the Dead comment.
If you have not seen the original Dawn of the Dead and you are getting in to horror, or haven't got to it yet...please, find that movie and watch it right now :)
Seriously, the Zach Snyder version (2004), is great but after you have seen the original. You will look back on it, as a great moment, in your movie watching career :)
I should not be raising the expectations of younger fans but the movie is a must.
The most important thing, is to watch it alone, or in a small, quiet group. Watch it all at once.
It's one of those movies, that needs your full attention and immersion.
If you treat it well, it will reward you. The effects, or look of the Zombies, did not turn out as well as originally intended. Don't let that distract you.
The Gore Zone of the 80's was on it's way but not perfected yet but there are still some great, gore moments! The movie is more than that. It's about the characters, the location and situation!!
That is what I Love about it.
Cheers from Canada
and remember:
'ZOMBIE'S R4 LIFE' :)
Just make sure with Halloween II to watch the Director’s Cut…not the theatrical
We gotta witness the director's vision!
Advice taken to heart
This movie needed more Joe Grizzly and I'll not be convinced otherwise.
Yes! I just commented myself that I wanted a spin-off movie with him as the lead character!
i would watch a prequel of him eating that taco supreme deluxe.
@@markmac2206The film we need 🙌
I’m supposed to be this huge horror fan and didn’t even notice that cop is the actor that played Charles Lee ray and iconic voice of child’s play movies until yall said it and I’m 42 i should definitely know this lol
Brad is a national treasure 🙏
I think the version of Myers we get when he’s fully an adult in costume is pretty scary and brutal. I didn’t care about the backstory they tried to give him in this remake the whole white trash family (Rob Zombie’s signature) and the bullied stuff. The moment the movie becomes the traditional Halloween it’s great.
Correct, the final 3rd of the film is a sped up, BETTER version of the original.
@@dustinhogle3844 This isn't better than the original.
@@dustinhogle3844the slow burn is part of why the original is better. That, not being trashy or overly gratuitous, and not explaining Michael's evil.
pardon me, I think you mean "hellbillies"
Physically, Tyler Mane's Michael is definitely the most intimidating.
Malcolm McDowell was the star of "A Clockwork Orange." and also had a number of guest spots on "South Park"(As "A British Person").He also voiced Death on "Castlevania" Season 4.
I found it funny that they didn't know who he was but they knew who did the voice of Chucky. But I guess not everybody has watched Clockwork Orange a hundred times.
I mean I barely can watch clips of that film without vomiting to be fair.
*There is actually A good documentary on the making of this movie. it goes for about 4 hours and goes from pre-production all the way through shooting. even if you aren't a fan of this movie, it shows a good behind the scenes on how movies are produced and shot*
I LOVE Zombie’s remakes, but the devil’s rejects is his best imo oh & circus peanuts & candy corn are the sh*t 😂
Just remembered,when John Carpenter was making this movie ,he sent the prop crew to to store for a plain ordinary mask.they came back with a Captain Kirk mask modeled after William Shatner and just painted it white.🎃🎃🎃
Mrs Strode is played by Dee Wallace who played EVERYBODY'S mom for at least a decade. She was the mom in E.T. and in Cujo and a million other movies.
No..that’s it..for mom roles
@@johnmarcey7176 Off the top of my head she was also the mom in Critters.
She was also a Mom in The Hills Have Eyes, A mom/aunt in Popcorn...
A professional wrestler played as Michael Myers, if I remember correctly, that's why he's more imposing in the remake
Hey also played Ajax in Troy
Tyler Maine is an excellent warm human being. Swing him on a panel or in interviews is such a joy
@@jimmy2k4o and Sabretooth in X-Men
i’m so stoked for this!! glad you guys are watching it, cause you don't see many reactors watching this version.
Because it's garbage. 😂
@@blacklightguidesyouit is…hot garbage
@@blacklightguidesyouin your opinion 😂
@@blacklightguidesyouno its not 😂
you might think it is but its not lol @@blacklightguidesyou
Oh man, I absolutely love these ones. Michael is terrifying in this. Menacing.
Michael in the new trilogy is far more terrifying, and in the original too.
@@HTHAMMACK1ok
@@HTHAMMACK1eh. I think he’s a different type of terrifying in each. Love him in the new ones. but something about this one, his size and the look of the mask I really like.
@@HTHAMMACK1I love the new trilogy (with the exception of Kills), but I didn’t find Michael in the least bit terrifying in any of them. The original, however, I agree with. But I think Tyler Mane is infinitely scarier than James Jude Courtney.
@@HTHAMMACK1the new trilogy makes Michael into a joke
Michael did kill Jamie Lloyd in the original continuity at the beginning of Curse of Michael Myers, but she was played by a different actress.
That’s where the baby that Paul Rudd Tommy Doyle is protecting comes from, it’s Jamie Lloyd’s baby.
13:00 He's actually telling the truth. The actor, Danny Trejo is.
He spent time in prison, dealt drugs and was a user, back in the 60's but has been out and drug free since 1969. He got into acting in the mid 80's.
Machete's real life story is fascinating and should be made into a movie!
I love this take on Michael. I love the original too, but I like seeing how he got this way. Most of Rob Zombie's movies are not for me at all, but I dig this one
Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Samuel Loomis is a voice actor of the popular Adult Swim show, "Metalocalypse."
Not going to lie, the 2nd half of this movie is good. I don’t care about the first half. 2nd movie, good lord, hold onto your hat. Also not a huge fan of the weird jokes throughout the movie. It’s like zombie tried really hard to make every character unlikable and somewhat trashy. The only people I felt bad about was the mom, the boyfriend, and the baby at the very beginning. Also Laurie’s adoptive parents and janitor.
Danielle Harris and Scout Taylor Compton now do a podcast together that is hilarious. The Bloopers for this movie are great too. I liked this one.
Ohhhhh I didn't know Danielle and scout have a podcast together 😔
That's cool! I didn't know about the podcast. Is Compton still acting?
I don't remember the last thing I saw her in and she is very good in this one.
I won't get in to the 2nd one...yet. ;)
Cheers from Canada
Whenever Rob Zombie decides to direct a horror movie, watch out.
The 1st Rob zombie Halloween was good the 2nd one I didn't like in my opinion
Watch out for trash....
@@jeetkunedoatlanta2464 ????
@@jeetkunedoatlanta2464I didn't see your mom anywhere in this movie
@TTV.KasperVideoGame To be fair, the original idea Zombie had in mind could've worked had this been their own franchise and not directly related to Halloween. Zombie wanted to try and do Michael Myers: Portrait of a Serial Killer, but because the characters are named Michael Myers or Laurie Strode, we hate their interpretations here. Like if the family had been changed from being named Myers, it might've been a interesting change. Similar to how Leatherface in his remake wasn't from the Sawyer family, but from the Hewlett family, and some people like that change.
When I watched this when I was younger this was prolly my fav one, I personally preferred seeing Michael Myers backstory it drew me in more tbh
Me personally, even as a kid, have never understood the fascination with Carpenter's "he's just crazy" take. I mean, go to jail, there are a hundred Michael Myers. You know what they don't have? Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger. Lol
Idk, this and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remakes made me bigger fans of Mike and Leatherface (I used to fall asleep to the originals). 🤷♂️
Michael’s parents died in a car accident afterwards, in the original film. It’s not a scene in the film.
Laurie must've used a stencil to do Tommy's skull painting because there's no way she could have done it too neatly.
they didn't age the principal, Ricard Lynch set himself on fire after taking acid back in the 60s....that's age and burn scars
Fine movie as a standalone. But yeah, much prefer the lack of background to what turned Michael evil, whereas in this one, it almost tries to justify his actions somewhat.
5:50
"Why did they age this man?" LoL
I'm sorry but I have been scared of Richard Lynch, since I was a kid!
That Man don't need no make-up, he just looks like that.
He might be a super guy irl but he sure does freak me out.
Great casting in this. Especially the small parts.
Rob Zombie knows his horror history. That is for sure!
Great reaction! I saw this movie opening night with my mom. She saw the original in the theaters...was always jealous about that haha :)
That's really cool. I did see the original in a theater but it was in the mid 90's. So it doesn't count but it was amazing, seeing it with people in a full theater and hearing legit reactions, from people who had never seen the movie!!
Thank the film Gods for repertory theaters! Lol
Cheers from Canada
One cameo most ppl miss is Michael's older sister is "Jenn-ayy", child Jenny from Forrest Gump
I took a first date to this movie in high school. Literally a dream date. Never spoke to her again after this
The Bloopers for this Movie are hilarious, especially the scenes with McDowell and Dourif together.
Michael’s mom is played by Sheri Moon Zombie, Rob Zombie’s wife, who is in all of his movies.
5:27 isn't that the kid from the spy kids movie.. juni cortez lol
I'm a Zombie apologist. I love his films, and the way he tells Michael's story at the beginning of this movie is amazing.
I too am a Zombie apologist. I actually think Devil’s Rejects is a worse movie than his Halloween films lmao
This movie has one of my favorite blooper reels, that's about all I enjoyed from it.
I’ve always enjoyed this remake. The only thing I’m not a fan of is how long they show him being a troubled kid and his troubled life at home.
Here's a little Easter egg. "Run Forest run"
Jenay
Is that Mickey Dolenz from the Monkees cursing with the gun?? jesus lol
House of 1,000 Corpses, Devil’s Rejects, and 31 are Rob Zombie’s top 3 movies in my opinion
That says a lot, when those turds are his best 🤣
What was 31?
@@nsasupporter7557 a group of psycho hillbillies kidnap a group of people and force them to play a murderous game where they have to survive the night being stalked by various rampaging psychopaths including a Mexican Midget who’s dressed like Hitler. If that description doesn’t sell you, nothing will.
@@moviesbye9294 I will admit, Rob Zombie has put out some stinkers, but those three are pretty good
Absolutely the first 2! devil’s rejects is one of my fave horror movies :) 31 kinda grew on me, I wasn’t a fan the first time I saw it.
“Silent killer” when you literally hear him breathe and grunt in the og movies 😂
he never wanted to hurt his lol sister or mom, cuz they were the only 2 people who never hurt him...in the original the only reason he tried to kill Laurie is cuz she tried to hurt him once he killed her friends, cuz she was scared and didn't know what was goin on or why, so when she did that, he wanted to kill her too...if u remember, he would always hesitate when it came to her
No, in the original (1978), he wasn't her brother. She was just a random babysitter he was stalking and trying to kill. They didn't do the sibling plot twist until the sequel, Halloween II (1981). John Carpenter never planned for them to be related whatsoever.
@@richieluckenbill1590 I think it's better that they aren't related
@@richieluckenbill1590Exactly. Laurie was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Clint Howard he’s been in some good horror movies evil speak and ticks
If we absolutely have to hear Michael Myers speak, then the line should be:
"I'm just a guy who's a killer for fun."
20:03 welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll it is a Rob Zombie film and his films are literal grind house D-list garbagio lol
The bathroom stall scene was improvised by dude playing mike, the way he pounded dude into the stall wall. It was a actuall strong as* stall.😊 i do beleive the black dude was really impressed that the guy did that. He wasnt upset at all and was very pleased the way the scene turned out😊
I LOVE this movie, a lot. I don’t care what others think. Great acting, especially young Michael, he really made you feel bad for him!
yeah it's hella hilarious
"How Could Lynda Not See her Boyfriend came back as a 6'8"Giant"!_ "That's one long ass Sheet"!
The actor that did the voice for Chucky was in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.
Lol as far as the "teenage girl dialogue," I will say that Danielle Harris (Annie/Jamie) and Scout Taylor Compton are still good friends and have an amazing Podcast...and they still pretty much talk like this ☺ Not that I would ever want to contradict Mrs Movies!
Good reaction to this version!!! Have not seen this movie in a very long time, forgotten how many BOOBIES....I mean, how much character development there was.
Btw, that sister being killed in the start of the movie is the same actress who played Forrest Gump's Childhood crush Jenny. Yes THAT younger Jenny in the movie!!!
Yeah I noticed her as well, pretty interesting how different her role is here
Michael actually did kill Jamie in H6. In the theatrical cut, he kills her; in the producer's cut, he injures her, but Dr. Wynn (aka Man in Black) finishes her off. Also, Danielle Harris only played Jamie in H4 and H5. A different actress played Jamie in H6.
Mrs Movies is right. If this movie keeps going the way it's going you're gonna have to do a "Welcome back to you me and the Virgina" segment.
I've never cared for the backstory, but everything else I enjoy. This is definitely the most brutal, terrifying and powerful version of Michael. Thx for the reaction guys.
Nah the new movies. Halloween 2018 and kills is the most brutal and powerful Michael myers
That's a fair argument.
@@jorreacts8902rz is easily the most terrifying version of Michael imo
What’s cool is the little girl that played his niece is in this
This is really good but the follow up doesn't make any sense. I believe Zombie said there was a lot of studio interference.
5:47 - They did not. The actor was burned in an accident. Those are the scars
The "aww fuck it" at the beginning had me laughing so hard bc I say that daily. Great reaction y'all
Michael: ''No.. I.. AM your brother..!'' Lorie: ''NOOOOOO!!!'' 😂
Excellent addition to the Halloween franchise, Rob Zombie's Halloween part 2 is debatable.
For anyone that doesn't know Hanna Hall but thought Judith Myers looked kinda familiar, she was also little Jenny in Forrest Gump
Speaking of The Quarry; Skylar Gisondo, who played Tommy Doyle, is the voice actor for Max in The Quarry.
There's a reason people say someone shouldn't try to remake someone else's masterpiece, it's because it will never be as good. The original was able to scare people without using gore. Anyone can do what Rob Zombie does using gore, it's takes a genius to scare you with almost no blood and fire people who be watching it and getting scared over 40 yrs later.
And the people who say that are wrong, because I hate the original Halloween and enjoy the remake. So, the way I see it, remakes allow people to have a different version to potentially like. Honestly, remakes are a no lose situation. If a person loves the original, but hates the remake, then they can ignore the remake. If they hate the original, but love the remake, then they have their version to enjoy. If they love both then they get to enjoy multiple versions. And if someone hates both they can just ignore them.
@@Joker_JAK Yeah, so let's cater to the less than 10% of people who prefer the shittier remake versions of classic films lol.
This ends up being just another gory slasher movie. Zero heart or soul in it.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakIf that's all it was, the remakes wouldn't make a fuck ton of money like they do. Besides, just because idiots like you can't stand people disagreeing with them, doesn't mean the movies are shitty. So many remakes are great films and are even better than the originals. People just judge them harshly because they wear rose-tinted goggles when viewing the older films.
@Joker_JAK No, they're not "wrong", lol. If you're part of the extremely small enclave of fans who prefer the remake to the original, then good for you. But this tired act of remaking masterpieces has been proven to be nothing more than a waste of time, money, and resources with little-to-no clout to even show for it since Halloween'07 rarely gets talked about (at least in a good light).
When comparing the original and the remake, I think of the original as a screen play based on a short story and the remake based on a full novel..
micky dolenz from the group the monkees is the guy who sells the gun
*I saw this movie when it came out at the cinema. It was the second Halloween movie I had seen on the big screen after Resurrection. I hated this movie for years. but in the past 5 or 6 years I see it in a different way. certain scenes and shots I like so it has probably gone from a 1/10 to maybe a 6/10 for me. I think I liked the second half of the movie more to be honest. Michael beating that bully with the stick still chills me to the bone. I took one of my friends to see it in 2007 with me and she punched me after that scene and probably after a few others lol*
My grandma took me to see two different movies and regretted both immediately. Cruel intentions. I was 12…but Buffy! And the other was New Nightmare! 😱😱🤷🏾♂️👍🏾😂
Also Danielle Harris didn’t play Jamie in 6. They recast her because they refused to pay her a fair price despite the fact she was in the previous 2 movies.
It was also that they were butchering the character and having her die horribly in the beginning. They really did her wrong all around.
5:47 That man is Richard Lynch. He played a lot of villains. He burned himself when he took some LSD in the 60's and has looked like that since I can remember lol
Oh no cap?
I love hearing chuckys voice in this..lol
so in the original story was told in the victim's perspective that's why Michael was a normal human in this story is told in Michael's perspective so he saw himself big
The gun shop owner is Mickey Dolenz, the last surviving member of The Monkees.
i had a Michael Myers mask but it melted on the top shelf in the closet we have in the den stuck together so it sadly got ruined i got a few years use of it it cost 60 . jump suit ripped a year before that .
Just get a Captain Kirk mask, paint it white and mess up the hair.
@@Deathbird_Mitch umm no iam not doing mask this year iam being a witch so i will worry about it next year i can find a cheap one on amazon anyways . plus i need the jump suit but aim really short so i have to get it taken up and there isnt much time .
In the original 1978 Halloween, John Carpenter had his then gf work on the girls dialog to make it TOTALLY authentic.
was wondering if this was gonna be a May or October upload. this first one is great reaction material but the second one is just weird, although, I don’t remember what cut I saw or if there even was different versions.
Yes, there were two versions but I'm in the same boat. Not sure what version I saw either.
I think all versions are just varying degrees of awful.
Probably an unpopular opinion but this version is my favorite version of Halloween. Rob Zombie’s part two is just bizarre…no where near as good as this one imo