@@AtelierGod Shadow wasn't complete until the last battle so yes it does, Shadow most likely was at a point strength wise where Doom didn't have control of him anymore and this was also symbolic showing Shadow is no longer chained to his past literally and figuratively
@oldstrikereatsringsyep technically three times if you count sega making the stupid decision to have the only dlc for the original generations be a pinball minigame
@@wongnexus7716 I'd remembered playing that game but I didn't get to completed the last story mode cause I had to get chao emeralds but it gets harder for me to get them
I liked this level design a lot. The Egg Fleet had such cool designs in it and the exploration around it was really solid. I'd say the weakest parts were the repeating ones, but still pretty solid! (It's not like Sonic Team aren't guilty of it themselves.)
Looks great! I think the rails could be smaller and maybe having shadow exploding more of the egg fleet as he progresses through the level would be nice additions
I think some improvements could be made to this mode, on grind rails the camera could be altered to have a different perspective so that hazards aren’t out of view, and the hit box for the ring at the end needs to fit the ring diameter.
@@AlphaOblivion7But Egg Fleet also could’ve worked tho, since he processes that moment at the end of the Rail Canyon/Bullet Station area up until the final stages of Team Dark’s adventure, leading him to say what he says at the beginning of Egg Fleet. “I’ll defeat you, Doctor. Even if I’m not real, I’m still the ultimate life form, Shadow The Hedgehog!” It still totally works as a personal moment for Shadow if you ask me.
I like it but it seems to be difficult to navigate as I legit had to do a double take on whether you accidentally backtracked because it looked too similar to an earlier part of the level
I liked some of the enemies and the adaptation of the look,especially the thick grind rails.The stage looks nice but the level design still leaves some things to be desired. It feels repetetive, which is very clear at the very end of the stage when we see the exact same section again and i mean EXACT same. Also there have been too many of the beat up Black Arms which should be less, since they are supposed to be something special. And for a good amount of time the stage is mostly a strictly forward course. (Forces Flashbacks) Maybe some Additions like exploring the inside of some Egg Fleet Ships would have been nice. Oh and at one time the spike balls which you have to dodge juscan t not be seen, which is a gamedesign sin. I hope its clear what my critique about this level is. But its a start
>is looking amazing Ehh, I guess if you like polygonal shit from 2003. I just find it really doesn't fit with Shadow's high detail model and effects at all. Plus for the most part the level is just a floating trash heap with a few goofy looking ships strewn about. Never really understood the people who acted like this was such a great level. But then that's true of a lot of stuff in Heroes.
funny how much this game looks like a crappy fan game engine when you add custom stages. it makes you think hey maybe fan game engines should prioritize cinematic cutscenes
This feels very empty compared to the actual heroes level, not fair at all to judge the original level based on a remake for a completely different playstyle. Adventure style with an emphasis on combat vs boost formula with a complete lack of combat.
@jelloistasty That is completely true. Except i don't get the "emphasis" on combat. The point of the combat is to add another obstacle as well as add opportunity for leveling. Which in turn helps get through them faster and increases your score at the end. Overall, the amount of forced/mandatory combat encounters in Heroes takes up less time than all mech stages in SA2. The emphasis in those games is still going fast and doing things as fast as possible, combat included.
@FirstName_LqstName the enemies not dying in one shot, and encouraging the use of different strategies to deal with them (like the turtle bots or pawns with shields) is an 'emphasis on combat'. Emphasis doesn't mean that's what the whole purpose of the game is, I'm simply saying they gave combat a more prominent role than it had previously.
the level itself is very good. unfortunately, it didnt cut to Radical Highway halfway through, so now I'll have to deem it unplayable
God I hated that shit so much, lol
@@Nighteracthe only parts I disliked was that chaos control became unavailable for no reason ever explained.
@@AtelierGod I mean this was a Dimension that Doom had total control over, so that kinda is self explanatory why we couldnt stop time...
@ you do so in the final boss battle though, that wouldn’t change just because it’s a boss battle.
@@AtelierGod Shadow wasn't complete until the last battle so yes it does, Shadow most likely was at a point strength wise where Doom didn't have control of him anymore and this was also symbolic showing Shadow is no longer chained to his past literally and figuratively
I still cant believe Egg Fleet got snubbed from Generations TWICE
It did??
@oldstrikereatsringsyes, heroes got 2 zones used from it in Generations. and for both instances, they chose worse stages than Egg Fleet
@oldstrikereatsringsyep technically three times if you count sega making the stupid decision to have the only dlc for the original generations be a pinball minigame
wait till you hear about how they treated mystic mansion!
@@jackhumphries1087 actually quice because of the 3ds version
"wow we're pretty high up, might even be at the edge of space"
"Space? did you say space?!"
😂
This makes me appreciate how hard it is to adapt these levels to the more recent gameplay style.
.....this just reminded me of how badly I want a freaking Sonic Heroes 2!
Hey thanks so much for checking out my mod!
dude this level is so good! you absolutely snapped.
You’re welcome
You'll regret this, doctor.... Even if I'm not real, I'm still the ultimate life form Shadow the Hedgehog!
This line came from Sonic Heroes?
@shinobixjohnson9304 Yep
@@wongnexus7716 I'd remembered playing that game but I didn't get to completed the last story mode cause I had to get chao emeralds but it gets harder for me to get them
I liked this level design a lot. The Egg Fleet had such cool designs in it and the exploration around it was really solid. I'd say the weakest parts were the repeating ones, but still pretty solid! (It's not like Sonic Team aren't guilty of it themselves.)
Metal overlord: FOR GOD'S SAKE I JUST SUNK THEM
Looks great! I think the rails could be smaller and maybe having shadow exploding more of the egg fleet as he progresses through the level would be nice additions
I think some improvements could be made to this mode, on grind rails the camera could be altered to have a different perspective so that hazards aren’t out of view, and the hit box for the ring at the end needs to fit the ring diameter.
this is amazing one of my favorite levels ever
Sonic Team!
Give me Egg Fleet DLC for Shadow Generations, and my wallet is yours!
multiple paths, using the in-game mechanics in the mod, good length, IT LOOKS FANTASTIC! great mod, great mod.
The fact that they wanted Rail Canyon over this is diabolical
Rail Canyon/Bullet Station was more relevant for Shadow's personal story
@@AlphaOblivion7rail canyon was more relevant to giving me PTSD from all those falls as a kid. Wtf were they thinking?
I can’t rmemeber if someone at work said it or some review but said this was too close to SCA for it to be used
Rail Canyon interacts with shadow's chaos control ability more
@@AlphaOblivion7But Egg Fleet also could’ve worked tho, since he processes that moment at the end of the Rail Canyon/Bullet Station area up until the final stages of Team Dark’s adventure, leading him to say what he says at the beginning of Egg Fleet.
“I’ll defeat you, Doctor. Even if I’m not real, I’m still the ultimate life form, Shadow The Hedgehog!” It still totally works as a personal moment for Shadow if you ask me.
custom stage mods looking good.
KingK is going to love this
was waiting for this
The shadow gens engine is incredible
Man that looks amazing,a shame Sega wouldn't do more dlcs for shadow gens
It's not too late
Amazing 🤯
One of the best stages from Heroes
I wish this level was truly in Sonic X Shadow Generations
This is great but if was given a proper finish oh yea we cooking fellas
I like it but it seems to be difficult to navigate as I legit had to do a double take on whether you accidentally backtracked because it looked too similar to an earlier part of the level
cant wait to get this on gamepass or $20
No places for Doom Surf or Doom Morph?
Awesome 🗿🔥
Se ve muy bien 🔥 hay una etapa parecída en shadow the hedheog 2005 PS2 en dónde estás con doom y debes destruir la flota de eggman 🔥🔥🔥🔥🦔
Dude I don’t know why sonic team didn’t include more levels from sonic heroes, SA2…let alone shadow the hedgehog’s self titled.
If you had the Boost skating mod, this would blend well.
マリオメーカーみたいにソニック＆シャドウメーカーとか作って欲しいな。
I liked some of the enemies and the adaptation of the look,especially the thick grind rails.The stage looks nice but the level design still leaves some things to be desired. It feels repetetive, which is very clear at the very end of the stage when we see the exact same section again and i mean EXACT same. Also there have been too many of the beat up Black Arms which should be less, since they are supposed to be something special. And for a good amount of time the stage is mostly a strictly forward course. (Forces Flashbacks) Maybe some Additions like exploring the inside of some Egg Fleet Ships would have been nice. Oh and at one time the spike balls which you have to dodge juscan t not be seen, which is a gamedesign sin. I hope its clear what my critique about this level is. But its a start
This stage needs bullets and missiles flying across the screen like in… Sonic Forces
damn this doesnt look scuffed
Is this a new stage that was just added?
Yes
The most memorable level in all of Heroes…. and they didn’t put it in… Final Fortress AT LEAST should’ve made it!!
Is it normal that the video quality is so low?
Edit: I meant the mod's audio quality.
No, you can change it to 4K in the video's settings
@@VastitudeGamer Sorry, I meant to write audio quality. Why is the mod's audio quality so low?
It's because my laptop's audio uses Dolby Atmos, which is making the audio quality sound very low for some reason.
Favorite SH stage. and I'm insulted the music isn't part of the SxS BGM Pack.
i hate that he teleports to attack, he should be equal as sonic, is much more clean and pleasurable
why need "Fly" and "Power" characters when you can just be all of them at the same time?
I swear, Sonic fans intrepidness is matched only by like Mario 64 fans or Ocarina of Time fans
While I appreciate what this modder did, I'm not quite impressed with the lack of the cinematic kabooms like in the original Sonic Heroes.
Unpopular opinion but-...i like egg fleet more than final fortress
That's not at all an unpopular opinion. Final Fortress is mostly known for lasting five minutes too long and repeating itself too much.
Bruh thats the most popular opinion about heroes
>is looking amazing
Ehh, I guess if you like polygonal shit from 2003. I just find it really doesn't fit with Shadow's high detail model and effects at all. Plus for the most part the level is just a floating trash heap with a few goofy looking ships strewn about. Never really understood the people who acted like this was such a great level. But then that's true of a lot of stuff in Heroes.
Where is Final Haunt, Westopolis, Air Fleet etc? Why do we need to add levels from games WHICH ARE ALREADY in this game!?
why are you complaining about mods as if they were official levels 😭😭
@@aneess because lately people pay a lot of attention only to shitty Sonic Heroes, ignoring Shadow the Hedgehog^^
Modders should not obligated to follow your request, if you’re that bothered by it learn to mod the game yourself lol
@@paihitetty_887 Shadow the Hedgehog is garbage. Sonic Heroes is miles better.
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funny how much this game looks like a crappy fan game engine when you add custom stages. it makes you think hey maybe fan game engines should prioritize cinematic cutscenes
Yeah, totally has nothing to do with the assets and layout or anything.
Completely overrated level, there’s no level design, just the same stuff over and over while falling for most of it. Plus the camera is terrible
Hi. Do you know what the word level design even means ?
This feels very empty compared to the actual heroes level, not fair at all to judge the original level based on a remake for a completely different playstyle.
Adventure style with an emphasis on combat vs boost formula with a complete lack of combat.
@jelloistasty
That is completely true. Except i don't get the "emphasis" on combat.
The point of the combat is to add another obstacle as well as add opportunity for leveling. Which in turn helps get through them faster and increases your score at the end.
Overall, the amount of forced/mandatory combat encounters in Heroes takes up less time than all mech stages in SA2.
The emphasis in those games is still going fast and doing things as fast as possible, combat included.
@FirstName_LqstName the enemies not dying in one shot, and encouraging the use of different strategies to deal with them (like the turtle bots or pawns with shields) is an 'emphasis on combat'.
Emphasis doesn't mean that's what the whole purpose of the game is, I'm simply saying they gave combat a more prominent role than it had previously.
@@FirstName_LqstNamesaying a level is empty and repeats itself often IS talking about level design
Yes