Perspective: Solving the Enigma of Vermeer's Art
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Wow, great documentary. Even the acting in the re-enactments was top-notch.
O.K. guys - ten seconds into the video, and I have to say that title was pure brilliance. 'Raiders of the Lost Art '.
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For me, he is the best painter ever!
My fav. is "The Little Street" and it just pinches me to shed some tears every time I see it Reijksmuseum :)
"The Geographer" is mine.
"The little street" makes me nostalgic and I don't have the slightest clue why that is.. maybe it's the two little children (possibly vermeer's) playing or the maid in the left performing chores.. or maybe it's the woman sitting solemnly. I just feel as though I had looked across the street and saw this exact painting playing out.
He is among the best but Caravaggio is the best he influenced most 17th century painters
I like them all. I never realized how good he was until I visited the Met Mus of Art. Close up viewing the carpet intricacies in The Maid Asleep. What talent!
Vermeer painted inside a black box.
It’s built so inside is the artist and the image comes from a little hole and projected inside upside down.
I was one time in a Mediterranean country in summer, it was very hot 🥵 nothing to do but taking a nap. I went to a bedroom that it was all dark , the window light was blocked by wood panels. I remember laying down and I hear someone on the street walking. Just only one person. Then a light came inside the room through a small hole and I saw the image of that person projected on the ceiling up side down. It was like a movie. Then I read Vermeer did that, that’s why his paintings are so realistic.
May be so!But the.n thee image had to have been there!So are you telling me thae the milkmaid was there outside the black box
In any case Vermeer has a beautiful perspective!
@@poonambhatia8867 Yes, he did use models, and the bulk of his works show the same window along with objects appearing in more than one painting. A man called Tim Severin reproduced “Girl With a Pearl Earring” using this technique.🖤🇨🇦
the device he used is called a 'camera obscura'.
Thank you so much for sharing this exquisite story about Vermeer 🌸
Visited in Amsterdam 🌻
Must admire the great talent of the forger 🌾
Perhaps not totally acceptable but yet it is a reality 🍃
Love 💕 Holland and the most generous and beautiful people ✨⚡️🍄🦩🪶🖼
The book 'I Was Vermeer' is about Van Meegeren and it is excellent.
Vermeer is my favorite painter. The Dutch Masters are superior to the Italian Renaissance Artists in my opinion.
@@dewayneweaver5782 - van der Meer is wonderful for sure. My very best favorite is Valasquez's "Juan de Pareja" (I am a push-over for portraiture). I have been fortunate enough to see the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Vermeers and Velasquezs. They also have Rembrandt along MANY others.
Thank you. That was extremely interesting.
The forger had more integrity, talent and honesty in him than all those he had fooled as well as all the superficial so called experts in this video!!
Pauline…the experts can’t see past their stuck up noses! They love hearing their own voices. You know, there are many Rembrandts which were painted by his students, and this was discovered by some critic/s…so some know their craft. A painting by a student is worth 1/10 of a true Rembrandt (this was discussed upon finding the students’ pieces.
I don't think a forger which was an addict could have integrity or honesty, he had talent though
That's an interesting take given Van Meegeren was more than willing to sell to Nazi collectors for his own profit during WW2.... and the only reason he came clean about his rampant fraud was because it was less of a crime than being charged as a Nazi collaborator. Make no mistake - he was a criminal, he profited from dealings with war criminals. He defrauded the art world, and was happy to crap on Vermeer's artistic legacy to enact his egotistical revenge on the people in the art community that he felt had slighted him. Integrity & honesty were not traits Van Meegeren possessed.
@@medea27 Luckily we don’t require integrity nor honesty in artists. Otherwise we’d be in considerably different circumstances with our great works throughout history. If we required them to be rapscallions and whoooremongers -we’d get a great percentage!
I retain this phrase: "Once you see a Vermeer, you never forget it and you never forget where you saw-it". I must see if there IS a Vermeer in Quebec ; )) Great documentary!!!
Why aren't there 3 different movies about this. The trial itself deserves its own
For real.
There is... "A Real Vermeer" (2016, non-english) and also "The Last Vermeer" (2019, english) Also check out "Tim's Vermeer" which goes into the way Vermeer likely painted, by use of a camera obscura.
@@Ddub1083 Vermeer didn't need to use a camera obscura.
@@demi3115 how on earth would you know? Vermeer wasnt even a known artist until like 200 years after his death. There is VERY little at all known about his life while he was painting so there isnt any contradictory evidence of how his art was made. And the evidence from the paintings themselves shows quite clearly (in my opinion) that a camera obscura was used... notably the lensing artifacts present in his paintings which presumably would not have been there if he painted without a lens.
Love this channel. 👍
I think the fakes look crude.
Which is exactly why this story is so interesting - especially considering the historical context.
I think van meegran was tryin to exploit a hole in vermeers career. He didn't have any "early" works kind of showing his progression as an artist. So van meegran capitalized on this and made paintings that were supposed to represent this time of his career (and would also explain his paintings lower skill).
@@jeffarmfield2346 Yep. After the hole in his career, Vermeer didn’t paint religious subjects. ‘The Forger’s Spell’ by Edward Dolnick is an excellent book about van Meegeren. The most interesting part of the story is how so many people were duped. Even in the little images in Dolnick’s book it’s very obvious that they were fakes. It’s a truly fascinating story of believing what we want to believe.
Fascinating, Thanks very much for this insightful work.
Vermeer's painting 'Gesicht op Delft' is one of my very favorite paintings of all times. Repeatedly I stood on the very point of this view on Delft.
43:40 "Once you see a Vermeer you never forget it and you never forget where you saw it".
A rather foolish comment considering that several notable art 'experts' felt the same way when viewing, what turned out to be, a Van Meegeren fake.
I have a certain admiration for his success in giving a 'broadsider' to the overly elitist art establishment.
Well it was more how few true vermeers were known at the time. Van Meegeren's forgeries were never of "known" pieces of art... he found references to pieces of art that were either lost or unavailable, and then he painted a picture that would match the description. Since this would be the only art piece that would match the description, people bought it because they did not have the actual vermeer work to compare it to. It wasnt until later when the original pieces were found that the forgeries really were seen as such.
how does that feel, having 2 braincells?
The characters in the fakes look like zombies
that forger was a genius
The sentiment captured
I was once alone for 10 odd minutes with the Girl with the Pearl earring .I was about 12 ins away.The room was empty and I felt a tingle of private privilege that at that moment I was the only person in the world beholding this icon of beauty.The security seemed unbelievably lax considering the priceless object in question.Which begs the question was it the real painting?
Lol. Yes, because there are no other safety measures in use other than supposts. In what age do you live 😂
maybe the question it begs is not whether its real but rather whether you are in fact truly aware of the security...
If the painting touched you, and transported you by its beauty…does it really matter if it was painted by Vermeer, or not?🖤🇨🇦
I would feel grateful that I was in a very secured room and that I had the privilege of being alone with a masterpiece, because the security is so supportive that I don't even feel it.
Love this
Gorgeous
excellent presentation and it lays out why Vermeer's unique and captivating. thanks for posting this!
The irony of course is that Vermeer himself was perhaps never trained as a painter. Just very resourceful, intelligent and curious. If he used an optical device in combination with the knowledge to lay out a perspective, the evidence is demonstrated in Tim's Vermeer.
Just saw “The Art of Painting” by Vermeer at Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna last month.
Art experts' egos, their desire to be credited with associating a piece with a well-known artist, along with financially benefiting, give them reason to, whether incorrectly or not, give their blessings to attributions. As we've seen in 'Fake or Fortune,' much evidence can be provided to experts in order to attribute a particular piece of art to a certain artist, and yet the expert gives the thumbs down.
I had the opportunity to see the van Meegeren fake Vermeer "Supper at Emmaus" at a Connecticut museum some years ago. An historic piece but can't imagine anyone thinking it was a Vermeer.
I don't know how the experts were blinded by van Meergeren's work.... his paintings are AWFUL....
@@alisonvanschoor730 van Meegeren !!!!!! Miss EXPERT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because this was the 30s and 40s. Vermeer's work in now ubiquitous - we all know it. Back then, he didn't command the world wide fame he does now. Yes, he was known, but not in the way his work is known today - by everyone! After the war, with so many paintings and owners separated, it was far easier to dupe so-called experts (who also didn't have access to the technological expertise we have today...) You viewed the fake through the lens of both time and knowledge and other people's expertise. So yes, to us now, it doesn't look like a Vermeer, back then no one knew just how few of his painting survived...
vM showed skill in choosing the subjects experts expected to find in early (missing) work by Vermeer. That was probably what had the largest influence. But agree it is hard to understand why anyone looking objectively would think they were by Vermeer
Fully agree !The original Vermeer"s paintings are more diffuse more subtle !The outlines are almost SUFMATO!The shadows on tje neck of The Guitar Player are so soft !
How could anyone ,leave alone an art critic be fooled!Maybe a judge or a prosecuter could be taken in !
In a lot of Vermeer's paintings,the model does not look directly at the artist!They are all looking elsewhere absorbed in the milk poured into the thick pan(the dutch oven) or reading a letter or writing one!The "Girl with the Pearl Earring "is an exception!
Vermeergan's forgeries lack this diffuse effect !
Thanks should be given to Etienne Joseph Theophile Thore' for his perseverance in locating lost Vermeer paintings . It is a shame that Vermeer wasn't highly regarded in his time for his talent as master of light. Forgers and thieves diminish the beauty that master painters give to us all in their supremely talented signature works .
Sad, how many great paintings have disappeared into private collections.
Yes, Sid. Big bucks take the beauty from us. Even the view of the ocean.
@@clairestaffieri4398 - If it weren't for those wealthy private collectors in Delft that paid Vermeer commissions, there would be NO paintings. It takes people willing to pay artists in order for artists to be able to paint and eat.
Well done!
Very good
Great video 👍
Vermeer is real Magic
If Vermeer had a day job, it's not that very difficult to understand why he didn't paint very much. He may simply have been busy doing other things to support his family. He may not have been a full-time artist.
I look at the fakes and they are not even close to a Vermeer. The thought would never cross my mind.
The acting in the re-enactments was seriously excellent. Even now I'm half wondering whether it's worth searching for a multi-million dollar movie about the forger. Ironically, it seriously made the rest of the documentary seem far better than it actually was.
I mean, the argument that "he just showed them what they wanted to see" doesn't really cut it. Fakes of Vermeer were going around at the time already, people undoubtedly tried to sell off other artworks as Vemeers too, and he wasn't just selling to a few art critics primed with a sales pitch; a lot of people believed these artworks were Vemeers. Ironically, the same psychological trick Van Meegren (sp?) used on his buyers is now used in reverse: "Look how terrible his artworks were; how could anyone ever be so stupid as to believe they were Vemeers.'; Yes, because that's exactly what you've been told and what you now expect, so you see all these flaws and issues.
Honestly, I can't help applauding Van Meegren. His crime hurt no one except wealthy people who could afford it or the legacy of a painter who is dead, and who art critics will love spending the next two hundred years "reaffirming his legacy." Most critically, he played brilliantly on human values, ideas, and perception, creating a fantasy that speared the flaws in art evaluation. If nothing else, it's a good thing forgers are around to force evaluators to be honest and critical.
Bring back
I have seen Vermeer s at the Frick, Met in N.Y., the National Gallery in D.C.
If it wasn’t for Isaac Pereire, we wouldn’t have Gare St Lazare either ..😁
Proof Experts are nothing more then yes men. Rather then true masters of the craft. Hope they are more diligent in the future.
That is definitely Viv Stanshall.
This must have come out before Tim's Vermeer.
Looking at those fakes I don't know how you'd be mistaken.
I’m surprised that they haven’t made a movie of VanMeegeran
Does anyone know if there is an english version availeble off the diary from the guy who tracked down the vermeers ?
Films covering this topic: "A Real Vermeer" (2016, non-english) and also "The Last Vermeer" (2019, english) Also check out "Tim's Vermeer" which goes into the way Vermeer likely painted, by use of a camera obscura.
@Ddub1083 - The film "Girl with a Pearl Erring" was highly fictionalized. Do not take it as fact with its camera obscura.
@@MossyMozart that part isnt fictionalized. you can tell by the various lens artifacts in Vermeer's paintings that he used a camera obscura.
🙏🏻
Yeh, that's what my dad was sent to 'liberate', declaring 3 carriages having discovered 6....
aka Van meekeren had daddy issues. freud would've had a lot of fun, i bet.
27:41 nothing like the British sliding in the occasional racism. “He was a Catholic!”
Married a Catholic , what a derogatory statement by that Englishman ! Charles Darwent ?
Kudos to Han van Meegeren!
Vamir painted real good, din't he?
He certainly did, better than your spelling of his name. 🎨😎Hi from Australia.
@@justinthyme5382 Good Day, Mate. For the sake of your surname, were you to fasten sprigs to your belt, then would it be a waist of thyme.
@@trukeesey8715 very true keesey. You said it just in time.
@@justinthyme5382 LA laughter abounds.
@@trukeesey8715 Thunder from down Under. 😷🤪
Wonderful doco!
To make a real forgery you must have the same wood , the wood of the same age for desk or frame , or at least looking similar , the canvas also old as the original , and it's the most difficult or as usual impossible .
Van Meegeren didn't wan't to admit that he made them because he had sold a couple to the Rijksmuseum previously for a huge amount of money. I seem to remember that he did a part exchange with Goerings for cash and a real Vermeer ?
They should have asked another artist instead of "experts" to verify. They are so obviously not painted by the same person .
Those "fakes" look very plastic to me.
BRITAIN'S No1 ART FORGER - MAX BRANDRETT, THE LIFE OF A CHEEKY FAKER biography is out now!
⚘🍃.
Vermeer may have self deleted.
The art world is one of the most snobby elitist exclusivist "scenes" on earth man. It's horrible. It's all such bullshit too. Like you see just plain white on canvas in an art gallery that's worth a SHIT TONNE of money because it's by some artist deemed worthy. If I or you did the EXACT same thing it wouldn't be worth shit. It shouldn't be. It's a canvas painted all white, yet this one guy does it it's an brilliant work of art and is worth a fortune. It's just made up and speculative af.
Much of it is a money laundering scheme. Just look at Hunter Biden’s artistic shenanigans.
VERY WELL SPOKEN . SAD BUT TRUE . 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
It's snobbish. But did you think of painting it all white? No. And if you'd do it now, you'd be a copiest.
22:15 how could anyone mistake that as a Vermeer. You can imagine Gorring's close personal friends trying to keep a strait face. But people from the Netherlands thought that was a Vermeer?!
very few people had seen vermeers at that time.... so its quite easy to not know.
I am always intrigued by how quickly the “experts” denigrate the skill of those who create fakes “in the style of” once discovered. To succeed as a fake in the first place, there must be significant talent.
The works he created ARE originals, and evidence his OWN skill as a painter. Had they not been signed, they might still be accepted as works by Vermeer. His choice to adapt the style of a missing period in Vermeer’s oeuvre was genius.
It was logical that there would be earlier works from before Vermeer’s known works, and that they would be slightly less matured, while foreshadowing the style he would develop with time. That required real talent and virtuosity to accomplish.🖤🇨🇦
Vermeer im not sure of
But veneers i know when i see one .
Is there definitive evidence that anything related to Vermeer is not a hoax? Still, he's getting famous 200 years after his death - could someone have just painted the pictures and made this story up?
Accusing Van Megreen of collaborating for selling a painting is ridiculous. So many actual war criminals, like von Braun and collaborators went free, but the allies went after a bunch of harmless people with tenous links to the Germans to make a show of their supposed moral superiority.
vermeer may have been great, but i hate being told what is great by hacks
Gran Veermer.
Pintura del natural de una persona asiática. 1650.
Inteligente y especial pintor.
So is there a reason for this difference in attitudes? Two people create indistinguishable art, one is adored, the other is shrugged off: why? Plenty of Vermeer's paintings were attributed to other people so it's not like he was terribly original. He is recognised for his talent and skill, why is the other guy's non-forged art less valuable?
They are distinguishable. You can see it yourself. They are less refined and looks off.
Then, you may ask. If it is so distinguishable, then why made the mistake of calling them Vermeers?
There are two main reasons. One, the people at those times are just so desperate for more Vermeers. It is this desire made them psychologically vulnerable. And two, an artist does undergo a time when they aren't that good at their craft yet. It is these where the fakes is able to fall into. These forgeries are labeled as early Vermeers. Especially the religious ones. There are rumors going around that Vermeer painted many religious works in earlier in his career.
Mistaken attribution as a sign of lack of originality is just a non sequitur. Seriously, his works are mistaken for works of other great masters. Just think of that for a moment. And also, there is more than just originality when it comes to artworks.
And as for the value of his forgeries. Of course his would be less valuable. For one, they are really new, merely a few years, and thus lacks historical value. They are also just unoriginal. They are forgeries after all. He just mainly imitating old masters and never really achieve the high skills of the old masters, Vermeer in the case of his forgeries.
And last, he scammed people. Imagine if you are fooled into losing thousand of dollars for buying an antique only to find it was actually just an imitation, how would you act? Would you actually value the imitation highly as if it was an actual priceless antique?
@Syd McCreath Indeed. His comment sounded "off". :)
@@veropsagel8374 Are you sure they're the ones who were psychologically vulnerable? Experts say it's Vermeer, the public goes, "Wow, true masterpieces, just look at that depiction of light and how the subjects are caught in the moment." The experts scratch their heads and say it's not actually Vermeer, the public goes, "We knew it all along! It's clearly inferior, you can see it yourself." Doesn't that kind of judgement seem questionable to you?
[Mistaken attribution meaning lacking in originality is just a non sequitur.]
@Syd McCreath This is youtube comment, dude. You want me to write an essay here? And then you will still mock me for that too.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@@mikeyoung9810 Oh. Poisoning the well. You resort to fallacies instead of making proper discussion.
What do you expect? That is internet for you.
This is off-topic, just a fashion observation.
But isn’t it odd that men fear male pattern baldness so much, even though it’s natural to them, and for hundreds of years women tried to imitate it by removing the front of their hairline to the middle of their heads?
Van Maygeren ...pronunciation .
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If you have to scientifically examine a picture to decide if something is authentic or not does it really matter? That means your eye thought it was a brilliant piece of art. Isn’t that what matters.
It clearly matters to those who pay millions
@@randybackgammon890 People pay millions because someone told them it makes a difference.
Nothing about Van Meegran work looked like Vermeers the scale the composition the draftsmenship the colour the application of the paint how can people be so blind &'dunb
By the way, it's disgusting how they bullied this guy to death, he didn't do anything wrong.
I can hardly imagine having the skill set needed to fool so many people...
I can't believe anyone thought these were real.
Don't put faith in Art Experts they have made so many mistakes, snobbish people thinking that they know it all.
24:30 "It seems astonishing..." it certainly does? What fricking idiot would think that's a comparable painting to the view of Delft?
Two people impersonating 2 Boston police. Not actually Boston police were responsible for this theft. Most of these artists who dedicated themselves for a lifetime an died poor in poverty. Never seen a dollar off there work being auctioned, for amounts that could have changed there lives. That is disgusting
tricky. You got me to click again.Shame.
Clearly weren't Vermeers.
Theft
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What happened to "Waldamere Januszczak?"
Thats the best presenter this channel ever had.
Did you guys pay him?
What happened?
Believe it or not there are other people making art documentaries...
@@rockets4kids ...believe it or not those "other documentaries" SUCK!!!!!
More people agree with me than you.
You KNOW "Waldemere" is the BEST! (I think I misspelled his name)
@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports Here's a radical suggestion for you: If you don't like this one then go find something else to watch.
@@rockets4kids what does your answer even do with the question. The guy likes Waldemar. Why come here just to be a prick. I’m sorry for anyone who has to be around you in real life.
@@Will-ge7ri You seem to have missed the point that @Brandion Clark was the one who came here complaining about this show. I like Waldemar too, but there is only so much content one person can make. If you've already watched everything that Waldemar has made and you can't bare to watch anything else then I suggest you turn off your device and go outside.
That's why I don't like art. But painting and drawing craft is different all is made around not only quality but names and bussiness. Have ask oneself a question. Do I value objective beauty or do I get influenced by external things and people. All these machinations behind the scenes is something that make me laugh and cry at the same time. It's not just about bringing them to the light of public. We know no beauty as a humans. Driven by wrong reasons. I don't say it's always like this but artist make mi puke, a word 'painter' does not. A great difference. I think in the future art will not be needed. Craft will remain and it's going to be better. Not in our imagination but in real world.
Debt poor
My God, what a monster Goering was, paying God money for paintings!
He was told his Vermeer was a fake shortly before his death and it was said that he finally accepted there was evil in the world.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 So the theif got cheated !Ha ha !
Very much disliked the production of re-enacted footage with actors, it diluted the real story, undermined the archival photographic impact, created an air of a fictional movie, very much like the fake Vermeer art. Why spoil such a great historical account in such bad taste, and a terrible narrator with a clinical tone to the narrative. And the music! Just awful. Next!
IT TRULY AMAZING.....
A PAINTING REAL OR
NOT, CAN SHOW THE BASIC PERSONALITY
OF EACH CRITIC......
HOW NONSENSICAL ,
AND HOW DARE THEY
CONTINUE TO TRY TO
JUDGE THE SOUL OF AN ARTIST... THOUGH
THEIR OWN EXTREMELY LIMITED PERSONAL LENS.....
'All art is quite useless' Oscar Wilde
Anyone who refers to Vermeer’s best-known work as “The” Girl with a Pearl Earring doesn’t know a thing about this painting much less the artist. I don’t listen any further.
what's his most famous one, then? :)
@@demi3115 The painting is not THE Girl with a Pearl Earring but rather Girl with a Pearl Earring and it is doubtless his most well known and instantly recognizable. The point I was trying to make was that the portrait is incorrectly titled which made me skeptical of the entire documentary. ;)
Horribly tedious documentary. Terrible.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SOME SUPPOSE TO BE
CITRIC....OR SOME
ART INSTITUTE MAKING JUDGMENT
CALLS!!!!!!!!!.......
MY POINT IS THIS.....
A MAN OR WOMAN
DID THIS
ARTWORK....
THEY PUT PART OF
THEIR SOULS INTO
WHAT THEY CREATED.
THE ARTIST WASN'T THINKING IN MOST
CASES, HOW MUCH
I CAN SUPPORT SOME
EGO DRIVEN ART CRITIC, OR INSTITUTE!!!!!!
TO KEEP THINKING
IN A DOLLAR VALUE
IS
S****I****C****K!!!!!!!
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