I grew up eating locally and seasonally. There were no citrus trees in Germany other than those grown in Greenhouses. Traditionally, people ate clementines once a year for the advent season either from Israel or Spain. I cannot remember what we did about lemons for certain dishes. What a treat that was!
Oh wow, I imagine citrus in Germany must be a heck of a process even with a greenhouse! Growing up in the Southwestern US we take for granted sometimes the availability of citrus like this. I can imagine how much of a treat that must have been for you!
University of Kansas has a kumquat that was planted about 1903. It has gotten burned to the ground by freezes and is in a hot area, but it still thrives and produces fruit. A niece is talking about planting one in Stuttgart. I told her to plant black schifferstadt radishes around it to keep animals and insects from eating the roots. Yuza oranges are very cold tolerant, as well, but used in place of lemons.
Hiii, I got a trovita orange from Reid a month ago through your previous videos. Hope it grows well in the next couple of years and produce nice harvests 🤞thank you for all your suggestions…. I am so glad that I found your channel ☺️
Wish I saw this video 3 months ago. I put a 2.5 gallon Valencia Orange tree from a big box store in the ground and it’s been struggling ever since here in the East Valley. Great video as always
We've been right there with you Captain. We've had several trees struggle on us from big box stores and online nurseries alike. With citrus, that root stock is oh so important for us here.
We love all of our citrus trees but especially our Meyer lemon, Cara Cara & Tangelo orange, Ruby Red & Pummelo grapefruit trees and thank you for sharing.
My neighbor has the ruby red grapefruit and a lemon tree. They produce A LOT and I am the benefactor. However, I would like to have a lemon tree since I go through lemons quickly. I don't really have the place for a full sized lemon tree, so I'd like to get a dwarf lemon that would grow in a large pot.
We got a Tango Mandarin from Green Life Nursery! I think I purchased it back in March this year. It's pushing out new growth going into the fall season.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm ben teşekkür ederim araziniz çok güzel harika bir ailesiniz sizin gibi iki insanın bunları başarması mükemmel çoğu insan ister ama başaramaz hep keşke olsa ister :)) teksasta arizonada tanrının çölünde bunları başarmak kolay değil bol şans çölde yoktan var etmek mükemmel :))👍👍👍
Hey there Bill. Very true on the Meyer which is why we prefer this one. A bit of a thinner skin and just a tinge of sweetness in a smaller fruit. That being said, Lisbon and Eureka are both great producers for us here in AZ.
Hey there Nina. If they are truly dwarfing varieties they will be on the smaller side. However, in our experience, they can still get pretty large when planted in the ground and treated well. I would give them at least 6 feet between trunks. 8 if you can swing it.
Hello you two, I love your bloopers at the end of your videos. I know you've been getting a lot of rain, how have your Moringa trees been doing. My sister youngest Sister has an acre of land out in Whitman also. She is learning a lot about living in the desert area even though she has lived in Phoenix all her life. But to be out in the desert itself there are trials and tribulations about that. So hopefully it won't be too hard on her. Are you going to be selling turkeys pretty soon I would like to get one if possible?God Bless you both.
Hey there Pattie. I'm glad you're enjoying the content (and the bloopers!). While it can be challenging out here in the desert it also has a few benefits. We have a lot of videos here that may help your sister out once she's putting seeds or trees in the ground. It's one of the many reasons we do these. As for turkeys, we may have a few left available. I'm not sure if you've joined our customer email list, but you can do that on our website. You can also find our email address on the About tab here on TH-cam where you can email us as well. I'll link to the products tab on our website for you here that has the details on the turkey program for this year; www.edgeofnowherefarm.com/products
You can also add your Kumquats. More of a cooking citrus ... unless you like super-tart. I like to squeeze 1/2 of one into my glass of water, and they are really good for marinating steak and chicken prior to BBQ because the acid is good at tenderizing. I have a generic tear-drop (no name box store) and a Calamansi, which round, and popular in the Philippines. I have a Myer and Eureka Lemon, Bearrs Lime and Washington Navel Orange...good fruit on all four!
Great overview! I really envy you being able to grow your own citruses! By the way, have you considered growing pomelos? If you haven't tried them, they are like large but sweet(er) grapefruits (in fact they are a hybrid of grapefruit and orange). E.g. none of those I have got (usually shipped from China or Israel to Europe) have been bitter.
Thanks Tonis! We do have a pomelo tree, it didn't fruit this year but is growing fantastic so we are very hopeful! We also had one on the old property that struggled a bit, but did give us a couple fruits!
The leaf-leg bugs swarmed my MIHO Satsuma into dropping all it's gorgeous juicy-looking fruit. My Ponkan isn't getting attacked at all & was getting daily water so maybe the additional moisture fended off the leaf-leg army.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm It's the most common Mandarin in China, sweet but lots of seeds. It's always at the big stores here. Mine survived the 16f freeze here in zone 9, it's slightly bonsai'ed (small leaves, probably root loss) but it's healthy & fruited at about 4ft tall.
We like juice oranges! Sweet is OK, but not big on the list. The Meyers lemon bloomed all winter, then dropped it's leaves in the spring. It's recovered but I hope it'll wait till spring to bloom. Thinning: A hail storm knocked off half the tangerines and the rest of the fruit is getting big. 3td crop of kumquats is good and ripening. 1st was so-so, and the second lost it's blooms to the hail. Such is life. I need to get up to Reed's, but he's 120 miles from here. Good prices and good trees, yo!
Hey there Martin! Meyer lemon trees can be tricky. They tend to put a lot of energy into blooms as opposed to leaves and usually when they need the leaves the most! If you do make the trip to see Reid, be sure to call him ahead of time to make sure he has what you're looking for!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I'm probably being to kind to it. Neighbors have one and it bear a lot of fruit each year. they water it now and then. It's exposed to the west and gets blasted by the wind all year. this was planted last winter and it took a while, but seems to be coming up to snuff. hasta, kids!
Hey Tiffany. We usually thin our citrus in early Summer. I'll link a video we did here for you on this year's thinning. th-cam.com/video/mpNy9NuI-sg/w-d-xo.html We filmed that on 4th of July weekend, so we were probably a few weeks late, but we wanted to get through the hot/dry June weather before pruning.
Hi there! I know you get your trees from RSI and I have a pruning question. I have a Cara Cara that was grafted low, and I can't tell what's what for pruning. I can't differentiate if there is rootstock or not. It's getting crowded and needs thinned. We planted it 2 years ago and haven't pruned it yet. It didn't grow much the first year but grew quite a bit the second. Can you help?
Hey there. This is a great question and we actually just cleaned up a very low grafted cara cara this past Winter. We didn't film the pruning, but I can send you a pic if you want to email us. Our email is found on the About tab on our home page here on YT.
Have you tried Citrus in pots like one of your Golden Dorsett Apples? I know they will be smaller but any luck with that? I ask because I have several in pots at the moment in their second year now in them.
Hey Eric! The only citrus we have had in pots were the Kumquats. We don't have an issue with space, so it hasn't been something we've wanted to try. Truth be told, we're trying to get everything out of pots right now except for that apple that we're keeping on test for everyone. I think the key is to have the biggest pot you can and give them some afternoon shade. That's how we had the kumquats before we moved and they fared much better with that shade than they did in full sun.
I think you need 2 mandarin trees because they tend to Alternate bare. I had a loaded gold nugget last year… this year 0. Honey mandarin last year had 0 and this year loaded!
Hi guys. Thank you for this video. I’m in Tucson. I have orange, lemon, grapefruit, and tangelo trees. They all have been hit pretty hard by the Asian citrus psyllid. I think it came from one of the trees that I bought at a local nursery. Those guys are hard to get rid of! Have you encountered them there?
Treatment involves a 2-fold approach, starting with a foliar spray of a pyrethroid and a systemic root absorption treatment of an Imidacloprid. Be on the lookout for Argentine ants going up and down your citrus tree trunk. The psyillids produce a honeydew substance much like the aphids, and the ants are feeding on that.
I guess I should have asked a different question. I was sold a Kaffir lime tree after asking for a lime tree who’s fruit tasted like a lime. I should have done my research since it’s fruit tastes nothing like a lime. I removed this tree and now I don’t know which lime tree to plant. Is there really much difference in flavor between a Mexican Key Lime vs a Beares Lime? Is one tree more cold sensitive or harder to grow in Phoenix? I love the Beares limes from the store but have never tasted the Mexican lime. I like the idea of making a key lime pie but realistically, I’ll be using limes for cooking/drinks vs making pies. That Kaffir lime tree was a big disappointment.
@@daveaz9962 I don't think you'll go wrong with either tree, as they're both very good limes. The Bearss on the old property survived 20 degree temps in the Winter and 125 in the Summer. It struggles a little with the frost, but if you're in the city it shouldn't get that cold on you. The key lime is more of a tropical (probably less cold tolerant, although I don't know that for a fact) and a bit smaller which is why we went with the Bearss.
Our soil is primarily clay (with heavy mineral content) with very little sand. Some of the areas on the farm it's more of a silty clay and other areas it's more firm. All of the soil hits a hard caliche layer about 2-3 feet down.
@@DaBuDaSak the root stocks we use here in Arizona are designed to deal with our high alkaline, mineral rich, clay soils. That's how AZ has had such a large citrus presence in the US.
What, no kumquats on that list? They’re my faves because they are more cold hardy (I’m in the high desert, zone 8b), healthiest i think because you eat the rind too, hard to find in stores, and bursting with sweet-tart flavor. Which of the kumquats you grow have become your favorite variety? I know at one point it seemed to be the Fukushu.
Hey there Margaret. We definitely could have given a nod to the kumquats. We're still fans of the Fukushu. As the tree has gotten older the fruit is even larger and sweeter that it has been. Meiwa is still right behind it, but the seed to fruit ratio is much higher, so it gets second place.
Thanks much for your response and updated opinion on kumquat varieties! I love following your channel-it’s just such a nice break from world news to watch you guys and all your plants and critters thriving together in the desert. ❤
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Also, it’s comforting to hear that your Owari Satsuma is not doing so well, since mine isn’t either, here in the high desert. I chose it for its frost tolerance, but I will see if another frost-tolerant variety is available here in California.
@@margaretmarshall3645 I have to admit, sometimes the stress of life is lost on the farm. Not that it's all fun and games, but the drama is just different I suppose.
I grew up eating locally and seasonally. There were no citrus trees in Germany other than those grown in Greenhouses. Traditionally, people ate clementines once a year for the advent season either from Israel or Spain. I cannot remember what we did about lemons for certain dishes. What a treat that was!
Oh wow, I imagine citrus in Germany must be a heck of a process even with a greenhouse! Growing up in the Southwestern US we take for granted sometimes the availability of citrus like this. I can imagine how much of a treat that must have been for you!
University of Kansas has a kumquat that was planted about 1903. It has gotten burned to the ground by freezes and is in a hot area, but it still thrives and produces fruit. A niece is talking about planting one in Stuttgart. I told her to plant black schifferstadt radishes around it to keep animals and insects from eating the roots. Yuza oranges are very cold tolerant, as well, but used in place of lemons.
A great mandarin for areas with colder winters are two developed here in San Antonio: Orange Frost satsuma and Arctic Frost satsuma.
Thanks for those suggestions!
Citrus fruits are the fruits of paradise. They are by far the best smelling and tasting fruits in the world.
They are really hard to beat Armando!
Hiii, I got a trovita orange from Reid a month ago through your previous videos. Hope it grows well in the next couple of years and produce nice harvests 🤞thank you for all your suggestions…. I am so glad that I found your channel ☺️
It should do very well for you! Glad you are enjoying the channel!!
Wish I saw this video 3 months ago. I put a 2.5 gallon Valencia Orange tree from a big box store in the ground and it’s been struggling ever since here in the East Valley. Great video as always
We've been right there with you Captain. We've had several trees struggle on us from big box stores and online nurseries alike. With citrus, that root stock is oh so important for us here.
We love all of our citrus trees but especially our Meyer lemon, Cara Cara & Tangelo orange, Ruby Red & Pummelo grapefruit trees and thank you for sharing.
Great varieties Daniel! We haven't had citrus the last few years, so we are really looking forward to it this year!
Excellent video, for varieties for an AMAZING Citrus, We are learning from you and MS. lory
Thanks Abid, glad you enjoyed this one!
Richards Garden Center has always been great for me. Been to Reed's as well for Apple Trees.
Glad to hear it. We've had very good success with the trees from Richard's Garden Center. Friendly staff there too!
😂😂. Love the out takes at the end. Always entertaining. Following your journey and wishing you all well. Picking up some great ideas on the way. 👍
Thank you so much, glad you are enjoying the content!
Great content as always. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed this one!
Meyer lemon! My favorite💜
Great choice, we really like this one too!
My neighbor has the ruby red grapefruit and a lemon tree. They produce A LOT and I am the benefactor. However, I would like to have a lemon tree since I go through lemons quickly. I don't really have the place for a full sized lemon tree, so I'd like to get a dwarf lemon that would grow in a large pot.
Hey Taylor, they really do produce abundantly! It is definitely worth a try to grow one in a pot.
As Always... love you guys! I learned so much.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed this one!
We got a Tango Mandarin from Green Life Nursery! I think I purchased it back in March this year. It's pushing out new growth going into the fall season.
Great choice, we are really looking forward to the fruit on ours this year!
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@@EdgeofNowhereFarm ben teşekkür ederim araziniz çok güzel harika bir ailesiniz sizin gibi iki insanın bunları başarması mükemmel çoğu insan ister ama başaramaz hep keşke olsa ister :)) teksasta arizonada tanrının çölünde bunları başarmak kolay değil bol şans çölde yoktan var etmek mükemmel :))👍👍👍
The Meyer lemon is really a hybrid of a mandarin orange and a lemon. For a true lemon I would choose the Lisbon lemon.
Hey there Bill. Very true on the Meyer which is why we prefer this one. A bit of a thinner skin and just a tinge of sweetness in a smaller fruit. That being said, Lisbon and Eureka are both great producers for us here in AZ.
I just bought two dwarfs, lemon and lime. My backyard is on the small side. How far apart would you recommend I plant them?
Thanks for the video!!
Hey there Nina. If they are truly dwarfing varieties they will be on the smaller side. However, in our experience, they can still get pretty large when planted in the ground and treated well. I would give them at least 6 feet between trunks. 8 if you can swing it.
Hello you two, I love your bloopers at the end of your videos. I know you've been getting a lot of rain, how have your Moringa trees been doing. My sister youngest Sister has an acre of land out in Whitman also. She is learning a lot about living in the desert area even though she has lived in Phoenix all her life. But to be out in the desert itself there are trials and tribulations about that. So hopefully it won't be too hard on her. Are you going to be selling turkeys pretty soon I would like to get one if possible?God Bless you both.
Hey there Pattie. I'm glad you're enjoying the content (and the bloopers!). While it can be challenging out here in the desert it also has a few benefits. We have a lot of videos here that may help your sister out once she's putting seeds or trees in the ground. It's one of the many reasons we do these.
As for turkeys, we may have a few left available. I'm not sure if you've joined our customer email list, but you can do that on our website. You can also find our email address on the About tab here on TH-cam where you can email us as well. I'll link to the products tab on our website for you here that has the details on the turkey program for this year;
www.edgeofnowherefarm.com/products
You can also add your Kumquats. More of a cooking citrus ... unless you like super-tart. I like to squeeze 1/2 of one into my glass of water, and they are really good for marinating steak and chicken prior to BBQ because the acid is good at tenderizing. I have a generic tear-drop (no name box store) and a Calamansi, which round, and popular in the Philippines. I have a Myer and Eureka Lemon, Bearrs Lime and Washington Navel Orange...good fruit on all four!
Great notes here Kevin. We failed to mention our Kumquats!
Great overview! I really envy you being able to grow your own citruses!
By the way, have you considered growing pomelos? If you haven't tried them, they are like large but sweet(er) grapefruits (in fact they are a hybrid of grapefruit and orange). E.g. none of those I have got (usually shipped from China or Israel to Europe) have been bitter.
Thanks Tonis! We do have a pomelo tree, it didn't fruit this year but is growing fantastic so we are very hopeful! We also had one on the old property that struggled a bit, but did give us a couple fruits!
The leaf-leg bugs swarmed my MIHO Satsuma into dropping all it's gorgeous juicy-looking fruit. My Ponkan isn't getting attacked at all & was getting daily water so maybe the additional moisture fended off the leaf-leg army.
Hey there Bob. I have not heard of a Ponkan before. Is it a type of Mandarin?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm It's the most common Mandarin in China, sweet but lots of seeds. It's always at the big stores here. Mine survived the 16f freeze here in zone 9, it's slightly bonsai'ed (small leaves, probably root loss) but it's healthy & fruited at about 4ft tall.
We like juice oranges! Sweet is OK, but not big on the list. The Meyers lemon bloomed all winter, then dropped it's leaves in the spring. It's recovered but I hope it'll wait till spring to bloom. Thinning: A hail storm knocked off half the tangerines and the rest of the fruit is getting big. 3td crop of kumquats is good and ripening. 1st was so-so, and the second lost it's blooms to the hail. Such is life. I need to get up to Reed's, but he's 120 miles from here. Good prices and good trees, yo!
Hey there Martin! Meyer lemon trees can be tricky. They tend to put a lot of energy into blooms as opposed to leaves and usually when they need the leaves the most! If you do make the trip to see Reid, be sure to call him ahead of time to make sure he has what you're looking for!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I'm probably being to kind to it. Neighbors have one and it bear a lot of fruit each year. they water it now and then. It's exposed to the west and gets blasted by the wind all year. this was planted last winter and it took a while, but seems to be coming up to snuff. hasta, kids!
I just planted a cara cara and trovita tree how soon should it be fertilized and the time of year Thank you
Great choices Erin! We fertilize Feb, May and Sept. If you just planed them, I would wait until Feb. to fertilize.
Thank you
Whent do you thin the fruit of your citrus? We have a tree that has been great but I guess I dont really know how to care for it!
Hey Tiffany. We usually thin our citrus in early Summer. I'll link a video we did here for you on this year's thinning.
th-cam.com/video/mpNy9NuI-sg/w-d-xo.html
We filmed that on 4th of July weekend, so we were probably a few weeks late, but we wanted to get through the hot/dry June weather before pruning.
Question for you. Do you know of any local nurseries down in Tucson, AZ that might be good other than the big box stores?
Hey Casandra. I do not have a good contact for a local nursery in Tucson. What are you shopping for?
Hi there! I know you get your trees from RSI and I have a pruning question. I have a Cara Cara that was grafted low, and I can't tell what's what for pruning. I can't differentiate if there is rootstock or not. It's getting crowded and needs thinned. We planted it 2 years ago and haven't pruned it yet. It didn't grow much the first year but grew quite a bit the second. Can you help?
Hey there. This is a great question and we actually just cleaned up a very low grafted cara cara this past Winter. We didn't film the pruning, but I can send you a pic if you want to email us. Our email is found on the About tab on our home page here on YT.
Have you tried Citrus in pots like one of your Golden Dorsett Apples? I know they will be smaller but any luck with that? I ask because I have several in pots at the moment in their second year now in them.
Hey Eric! The only citrus we have had in pots were the Kumquats. We don't have an issue with space, so it hasn't been something we've wanted to try. Truth be told, we're trying to get everything out of pots right now except for that apple that we're keeping on test for everyone. I think the key is to have the biggest pot you can and give them some afternoon shade. That's how we had the kumquats before we moved and they fared much better with that shade than they did in full sun.
What is the link to planting a Bearss Lime tree please
Here is that link Ken.
th-cam.com/video/DfDGWElEu7k/w-d-xo.html
I think you need 2 mandarin trees because they tend to Alternate bare. I had a loaded gold nugget last year… this year 0. Honey mandarin last year had 0 and this year loaded!
Great suggestion, thank you!
Hi guys. Thank you for this video. I’m in Tucson. I have orange, lemon, grapefruit, and tangelo trees. They all have been hit pretty hard by the Asian citrus psyllid. I think it came from one of the trees that I bought at a local nursery. Those guys are hard to get rid of! Have you encountered them there?
Oh my, that is a bummer! We have not had to deal with that here on the farm. What is the remedy for them?
The best treatment is a 2-fold approach starting with a foliage application of followed by a systemic of Imidacloprid (uptake in the roots).
Treatment involves a 2-fold approach, starting with a foliar spray of a pyrethroid and a systemic root absorption treatment of an Imidacloprid. Be on the lookout for Argentine ants going up and down your citrus tree trunk. The psyillids produce a honeydew substance much like the aphids, and the ants are feeding on that.
TH-cam keeps shutting me down before I can fully respond. I’ll clear cache and try again.
@@larrypollman5243 this one came across!
If you don’t have an Oro Blanco grapefruit, your missing out. Sweet as sugar. If I only had room one, that’s the one I’d have. I have 7 of them
Score one for the Oro Blanco...or 7 I suppose!
I agree, the Oro Blanco grapefruit is delicious!
I have room for one lime tree. I know you recommended the Beares lime tree but what are your thoughts about the Mexican Lime tree?
Hey Dave. The Mexican Lime tree is another solid option for us here in the desert. Truth be told, just about any lime will do!
I guess I should have asked a different question. I was sold a Kaffir lime tree after asking for a lime tree who’s fruit tasted like a lime. I should have done my research since it’s fruit tastes nothing like a lime. I removed this tree and now I don’t know which lime tree to plant.
Is there really much difference in flavor between a Mexican Key Lime vs a Beares Lime? Is one tree more cold sensitive or harder to grow in Phoenix? I love the Beares limes from the store but have never tasted the Mexican lime. I like the idea of making a key lime pie but realistically, I’ll be using limes for cooking/drinks vs making pies. That Kaffir lime tree was a big disappointment.
@@daveaz9962 I don't think you'll go wrong with either tree, as they're both very good limes. The Bearss on the old property survived 20 degree temps in the Winter and 125 in the Summer. It struggles a little with the frost, but if you're in the city it shouldn't get that cold on you. The key lime is more of a tropical (probably less cold tolerant, although I don't know that for a fact) and a bit smaller which is why we went with the Bearss.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm
Thanks so much!
What type of soil do you have is it clay and sandy?
Our soil is primarily clay (with heavy mineral content) with very little sand. Some of the areas on the farm it's more of a silty clay and other areas it's more firm. All of the soil hits a hard caliche layer about 2-3 feet down.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm how can you grow citrus In clay wouldn't you get root rot from lack of oxygen?
@@DaBuDaSak the root stocks we use here in Arizona are designed to deal with our high alkaline, mineral rich, clay soils. That's how AZ has had such a large citrus presence in the US.
What, no kumquats on that list? They’re my faves because they are more cold hardy (I’m in the high desert, zone 8b), healthiest i think because you eat the rind too, hard to find in stores, and bursting with sweet-tart flavor. Which of the kumquats you grow have become your favorite variety? I know at one point it seemed to be the Fukushu.
Hey there Margaret. We definitely could have given a nod to the kumquats. We're still fans of the Fukushu. As the tree has gotten older the fruit is even larger and sweeter that it has been. Meiwa is still right behind it, but the seed to fruit ratio is much higher, so it gets second place.
Thanks much for your response and updated opinion on kumquat varieties! I love following your channel-it’s just such a nice break from world news to watch you guys and all your plants and critters thriving together in the desert. ❤
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Also, it’s comforting to hear that your Owari Satsuma is not doing so well, since mine isn’t either, here in the high desert. I chose it for its frost tolerance, but I will see if another frost-tolerant variety is available here in California.
@@margaretmarshall3645 I have to admit, sometimes the stress of life is lost on the farm. Not that it's all fun and games, but the drama is just different I suppose.
So have you tried Mango?
We haven't tried mango yet! They tend to struggle in the summer and winter, so until we have time to dedicate to them we are waiting.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Oh Okay. I started seedlings and then realized theyre tropical! Oh Boy
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Thanks guys!