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  • Join us for another week of news, rumors and all things Warhammering! This week, we are breaking down Dawnbringers Book 1 - Harbingers and talking about everything this new narrative book is bringing to the game.
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  • @MrDavs1985
    @MrDavs1985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Tyler disagreed with Vince last week and this week he’s not on the show…. Vince rules with an iron fist….

    • @danielc-s8056
      @danielc-s8056 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Iron brush... iron apron... either way you pay his iron price

  • @yyzhed
    @yyzhed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gits: "You can't claim this cave. We live here! There's 50 million of us"
    Dawnbringers: "But do you have a flag?"

    • @bigtom8925
      @bigtom8925 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No flag, no country! Those are the rules.... That I've just made up

  • @RoccoYaBoy
    @RoccoYaBoy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    CONGRATS TOM!!!!!

  • @Nubgan
    @Nubgan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for Story time, really have loved it when they leaned into the Bretonnian delusion with FEC, so Sir Jerrion's story especially sounded great :D

  • @TheLunchBreakPainter
    @TheLunchBreakPainter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superb show guys! Really love this narrative turn. Really great content from you both ❤

  • @seanw8643
    @seanw8643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don’t forget for FEC there’s a sub faction (morguant)that allows boundless ferocity to work with only 10 models instead of 20

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Indeed, the synergies in the book (since it's the old book) are still crazy.

  • @jonathanwhyborne3031
    @jonathanwhyborne3031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations Tom!

  • @redsven7624
    @redsven7624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    On the game cycle, GW needs to break from the idea a new starter and big release needs a new edition. You are both spot on that the narrative can be the driver of luanch sets. Of course that depends on an edition not having fundamental issues for any percentage of the player base. However, I think they are mentally tidied to it to feed share sales and won't take the risk that a cool box of models with great story won't sell

    • @theDackjanielz
      @theDackjanielz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AOS doesn't need a new edition, they could simply keep improving this one - However GW wants an excuse to sell another line of battletomes again.

    • @realm_of_plastic
      @realm_of_plastic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theDackjanielz Didn't need a new edition after 2nd edition either. 3rd edition was an unnecessary, convoluted sideways step. It was transparently the least necessary new edition of any game that GW ever produced.

    • @theDackjanielz
      @theDackjanielz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@realm_of_plastic i agree completely tbh.

  • @tofathi195
    @tofathi195 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the show!

  • @returntofleet
    @returntofleet 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congrats Tom!! 🎉❤

  • @lolaldanee2743
    @lolaldanee2743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never heard the word "hopium" before. I like it!

  • @stevekearns6173
    @stevekearns6173 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great show and gratz Tom.

  • @nathanbuxton3271
    @nathanbuxton3271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In respect of proxying, whfb 6th editions Hordes of Chaos, p110, was called ‘coping with the lord of change’. Having overhauled chaos in a similar way GW provided a list of explicit proxy recommendations (harpies as furies, marauder chieftain as aspiring champion, chaos troll as spawn etc)

    • @nathanbuxton3271
      @nathanbuxton3271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So rare, but not unprecedented

  • @philbourgeoi2875
    @philbourgeoi2875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was a preview of the giant hands holding an axe for cities of Sigmar. Maybe the grass trolls will be a new city for the CoS book

  • @Emidretrauqe
    @Emidretrauqe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So begins the Gloomspite Gentrification Initiative

  • @herbdoobie824
    @herbdoobie824 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great book - but could be bigger and even more in depth. But I guess theres more to come in the upcoming Dawnbringer books - which I’m very excited for 🤩

  • @IzzysIssues
    @IzzysIssues 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man it would be so cool if that rumor engine was related to some hitherto unknown troll king thing

  • @hugorikken2993
    @hugorikken2993 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oh my god, i never knew i wanted Tzeentch chaos trolls, but now its all i've ever wanted

  • @lestrike2707
    @lestrike2707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll ally the harbinger of decay into my StD - A punchy frontline Priest with curse is great! (also buffable by the shrine, which is nieche though)

  • @kendrickwhite4868
    @kendrickwhite4868 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Story time with vince is 🔥

  • @ruddendave
    @ruddendave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aekold Helbrass (the guy with the life aura) is the next TWW3 hero so maybe there's a Tzeentch life tie in there? Also very here for Vince sassy lore roundups

  • @starslayer2438
    @starslayer2438 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the story time! Good way to catch up on the story, without having to buy the book. (I have no interest in Path to Glory and the new warscrolls are on the app.)
    100% agree on the Rabble Rouser ability. I read that and was so annoyed. Reads like late 80s / early 90s game design. Also, the Harbinger of Decay's bell should either drop the once per battle restriction or have its effect last until the end of the battle. Then we'd be talking.

  • @RadioFreeHammerhal
    @RadioFreeHammerhal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need a little cou ter in the corner for every time someone says "what I'll say is this"

  • @lat1n0_h0t
    @lat1n0_h0t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vince, during the show you said that you didn't like the way your FEC turned out. What was it that you didn't like/would change/improve upon? I liked they way they came out and actually bought the army bc of how quickly it looked like they would paint up nicely. (Also Tom stating how good the starter box was for them so i got three, thanks Tom.)

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I should have been more specific, they are not a tourney painted army, they are a speed painted army. They are fine for the time I spend I think they look cool by that standard, but they aren't something I would take to a tourney where I am trying to win best painted.

    • @lat1n0_h0t
      @lat1n0_h0t 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinceVenturella Okay, thanks for taking the time to answer my question, very much appreciated.

  • @TheMiniaturesPaintbrush
    @TheMiniaturesPaintbrush 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s go FEC!!!!! I can’t wait to get them to NoVA! I got 100 Ghouls ❤

  • @bloodbathnbeyond
    @bloodbathnbeyond 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am interested in what armies you think the FEC reg would go into.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      #1 - FEC, as individual warscrolls, where they will murder (that's a joke, I know the RoR can't be in FEC). The real answer is probably OBR, where the faster speed and volume of attacks is valuable.

  • @RadioFreeHammerhal
    @RadioFreeHammerhal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am REALLY surprised the hurricanum is staying with "Emperor Karl Franz" plastered across the side

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just a thing of not having time to resculpt.

  • @andrewwilson8802
    @andrewwilson8802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think these chaos trolls has more throw back to tamurkins horde. Didn't he have trolls and fight the undead as nurgle?

  • @roryhatfield6696
    @roryhatfield6696 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was the King of Trolls

  • @bingobassen
    @bingobassen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the pick of the week guy called? I can't quite make it out and would love to find it.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/t5JHDmF3dXQ/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUIaGV5d29haCs%3D

  • @VentiChristopher
    @VentiChristopher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations Tom on getting married!

  • @davidcampbell621
    @davidcampbell621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the topic of 80 point ghouls hobgrots are also 80 points.

  • @azoxystrobin
    @azoxystrobin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that they'd bring back the mutalith vortex beast. It is an old plastic kit, I wondered why they didn't make more easily available. It is also god marked but doesn't appear in the appropriate books, so putting it in this narrative campaign would be a good idea.
    Maybe the Khorne harbinger (of course I'm going to talk about Khorne) will just be another random foot hero with tied Slaughterbrute, after all it's the same kit as the mutalith vortex beast, and it would be more cost efficient for GW.
    I'd be down for that.
    Here's hoping they give us a Khorne beastmaster with pet monster doggo...Not quite as awesome as new Valkia, but still good.

    • @azoxystrobin
      @azoxystrobin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, GW had us in the first half. But it was good old bait, and it's a brand new troll king rather than repurposing an old model.
      Pity for khorne, unless it puts Valkia back on the table...

  • @ClockworkBananaMoon
    @ClockworkBananaMoon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that before the original CoS book came out we had the announcement around June and then (in July, maybe? I think I was on holidays at that moment) there was an announcement about those 35 kits that were being discontinued. Although at that time they only released the info about the disappearing plastic, but not said anything about cutting the actual warscrolls.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      COuldn't say, but if they were cutting the models, they were certainly cutting the scrolls. They go hand in hand. But this was the most transparent.

  • @theDackjanielz
    @theDackjanielz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now that its been confirmed cities of sigmar is going to be human focused from now on i wonder if that means the elves will be moved into the other factions and dwarfs might infact get a combined book after all?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I doubt it, it's human focused, but the dwarves and dark elves are still very much there.

    • @theDackjanielz
      @theDackjanielz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinceVenturella Sorry i meant more "in the future" i should of clarified that better.....If they stick around COS however that's fantastic, thumbs up!

  • @theokikphotography
    @theokikphotography 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah! Hobby time! Where Tom doesn’t have anything to show and Vince can’t show anything 🎉
    Great show guys😊❤

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey, I showed my model. :)

    • @theokikphotography
      @theokikphotography 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinceVenturella only love Vince😘

  • @matthewdobson100
    @matthewdobson100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the gitz box is also way better value than the vanguard box in monetary, game rules, model asthetics and age of sculpts.

  • @warpstoneenjoyer8293
    @warpstoneenjoyer8293 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really wanted an excuse to buy the book, a bit sad there wasn't enough in there to justify it

  • @kewanzahedinour7304
    @kewanzahedinour7304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He drinks SQUIGG WHAT??

  • @dannythompson9642
    @dannythompson9642 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍

  • @jamesn2830
    @jamesn2830 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any story arch with gits is immediately enriched with their wacky antics

  • @gavinlenuzza748
    @gavinlenuzza748 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gahh why does no one cover the path to glory sections😭😭

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry, don't play so can't talk it through clearly. :)

  • @KamenRiderGreed
    @KamenRiderGreed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like the Rabble Rowza was a *big* miss. He's a cool model, but *man* does he feel like he doesn't have a role in Gitz. I'm not even complaining about the complexity, that's its own thing. First, why is this guy not a Totem? He's supposed to be renowned for his *big voice*, so why can he only issue commands at a range of 12" like every other Hero that isnt your General? Second, why does he only affect Monsters? He's not the "Beast Waker", he's the "Rabble" "Rouza", why cant he rouse the actual rabble of Gitz? Let him buff the regular Grots or Moonclan, maybe ones that don’t have the Squig Keyword since the Squigboss is a thing. Finally, the only Gloomspite monster I'd ever want to use his run-and-charge buff on is the Arknarok Spider, because my Mangler Squigs will always have run-and-charge in the most important turns if I just position correctly. So the only good Monster to pair him with is an Araknarok. Which is ok, I like my Araknarok Spiders, but man is that a niche interaction.
    I'll give him this, since the range is basically unlimited and his Regiment of Renown can deep-strike, you can fit him in your opponents deployment zone, and since that run-and-charge doesn’t specifically say "*GLOOMSPITE GITZ MONSTER*", you can goad any monster of any Destruction faction into having run-and-charge, so that does give the Regiment of Renown a bit more flexibility. But the fact that he's designed more for the Regiment of Renown than his own army is a real problem if you ask me.

    • @rotm4447
      @rotm4447 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he's completely useless, actually ruins the value of the box.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said all around.

    • @KamenRiderGreed
      @KamenRiderGreed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VinceVenturella Thank you!

  • @SymbulYT
    @SymbulYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I support gentrifying the underworld.