10 Tips for using Army Painter Speed Paints
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Here are some top tips for you to get the most out of your Army Painter Speed paints!
VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:01 - How to base Warhammer Miniatures FAST!
00:33 - What basecoats are needed for Speedpaints first
01:35 - How to get Quick and easy coloured metallics for your miniature
02:40 - Can you airbrush Army Painter Speed Paints?
03:24 - Don't throw away your empty bottles of Speed paint!
03:40 - Mixing Speed Paints to get new colours
04:03 - How to layer up Speed Paints
04:37 - How to weather miniatures using Army Painter Speed Paints
05:45 - Can you use acrylic paints over Speed Paint?
07:09 - Getting more out of your Speed Paints
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Tip #11 - Mix Quickshade with Speedpaint medium for the ultimate wash! 🤟😎
oo interesting!!! Thats a good one!! I will pin this comment up for anyone that wants to try this out!
I'll check this one out, thanks! I've only been using normal washes but without too much "touch up". That way the reactivation was minimal. But your tip makes all the sense
@@FHangya You can use contrast medium as well (I use both). Trust me, if you don't want to tint, only shade, this is the way to go. The results are soooo clean!
What's the ratio?
@@deez3913 It all depends on the effect you want. i.e. 2:1 wash/medium is what I use for nuln oil if I want to add shadows to white.
finaly someone uses the "disadvantage" as a advantage 👍
Especially since it was overhiped so hard on youtube. Depending on your primer and the work u are doing afterwards reactivation is nothing bad. U can drybrush and edge highlight without any problems. Only rly wet layers would need additional sealing. On the other hand u can make use of the reactivation for blending and weathering etc. Especially since this makes Speedpaints prevent the typically coffee staining that I hate on contrast paints (and the pricing, but gw...)
Well i never saw it as a disadvantage, and i like to look at the bright side of life haha
At first i thought it would be a novelty paint range and i would use it very sparingly, but i quickly found that the paints have a lot of uses, and i do end up using them one way or another in nearly every project.
I find them as a nice extension to my existing range to paints, and as Kueppe suggests you can still drybrush and edge highlight as you would do anyway.
I'm not saying it's the best thing to come since sliced bread - but it's at least the best thing to come since they decided to put chocolate in Brioche :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes tbh i dont get it why everyone is complaining about the reactivation "problem", i mean they are praising oil paint and enamel washes for exactly the same feature. its an other tool in your kit and if you know how to use it can be a powerfull one
@@kueppe It wasn't that it was overhyped, it was that every single early review somehow failed to notice it and mention it, which was and still is very suspicious to me.
@@Turtlesism I understand u. I think it was not done on purpose. I painted over 100 minis with speedpaints now (not purely) and run in this situation twice. A.when u go a done surface 2 mins later and the paint started to dry u can reactivate and leave brush marks (I would count that under wrong application and many testers prob as well). U have to learn how to apply contrast as well. B i had done an zenithal undercoat with ink and the speedpaint reactivated the ink because I came back with an 2nd layer colour to early. If u dont know what u xp and testers normally do a few test models or show the effect on simple test minis. Then they all did a correction video (most noticing it is not that big of a deal) but as u can read in reddit etc these results in a lot of hesitation from customers. Damn the first comments under gs world new ink line are already hope it doesn't have reactivation issue... I cant believe many of these ever tried.
The information started RIGHT AWAY. Good stuff.
Glad it was helpful! Thought id mix up how i present the video like this :)
Thank you, i learned alot of contrast and speed painting on my own. By measing with them and trying new things. I am trying to teach a friend of mine who is very unfamiliar with these acrylic inks, and it was hard to tell him what he needs to know, why also clearly and understandable. I use speedpaints alot for glazing and saving time and paint on base coats, as ill be covering them up either way
An extra tip I would add is to drybrush on white after zenithal highlighting. This gives extra light to raised areas and better contrast.
A very good tip! Thank you for sharing with the community :):)
You can mix normal acrylic paints into the speedpaints to get a whole new variety of colors, Dana Howl discovered this in her Speedpaint videos. So if you want to highlight a speedpaint color, mix some white paint in there and paint it right over the top. It has to be UNTHINNED acrylic paint, but that way it won't reactivate.
Not tried mixing acrylic paints with them yet, but i did try mixing an Airbrush paint (as this is already super thinned down) to create a new colour and this worked a treat :)
Currently painting up an ogre Blood Bowl team with a specific orange colour :):)
Very good video. No endless talking, no timelaps or artistic nonsense. Now i know what the speed paints are good for. And why so many are complaining about them.
Thank you very much! I try not to do too much waffle normally, but i thought this video particularity could do with just jumping straight in! :):)
It’s very nice to just get right into the video
*** If you should not want a previous paint layer or layers to dissolve, you can always apply a CLEAR sealant, (there are many different types to choose from). And, depending on your intention, these clear sealants can be manipulated in a variety of ways, (thicker/thinner, spattered, used as a resist, ect.). They are also available in matte, satin/semi-gloss, gloss, and "super"-gloss. Each can be used individually, or together, to affect how additional paint layers will react with previous layers. Also, through the use of layering clear-coats occasionally amongst paint layers, you can achieve the illusion of translucency, (this is usually more apparent in larger scaled models, but it CAN be useful on smaller models, too, if that is what you want to achieve).
In fact, this could be a great idea for a video, or series of videos on the subject!!! (Hint, hint, nudge, nudge, 'know what I mean!!!)😊😊😊
Amazing detailed comment here! Thank you for sharing with the rest of us :) :)
This answered a lot of questions I had about Speedpaints and I'm pleased it confirmed what Dana Howl had said about using the speedpaint medium. Can't wait for my starter set to arrive!
Glad that the video could help somewhat for you :) What will you be using them for in your collection?
For me I have some Stormcast dragons on the paint table to do! :)
By far the best practical speed paint use video. How did I not find you sooner! I’ve been binge watching your vids all day. Can’t wait to see you blow up man!
Wow, thank you for the kind words! I hope that you have enjoyed some of the other videos!
If i'm fortunate to get a bigger traction on TH-cam then it will be all down to lovely people just like yourself, so thank you for taking the time to come along and watch me do my thing :)
Please do pass along a video or two to your hobby circle - if they would help them of course! The more the merrier! :):)
I've recently gotten into the hobby and bought the whole speed paint kit. It's truly rewarding to use them and such tips indeed make it a very versatile tool! :)
WHOOP!! Welcome to our fine hobby! What are you collecting first?
Yes i do really like using these, and in the non traditional way of just a 'one coat wonder'. They have so many uses! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes I'm big on dwarves, so I already pained about 30-40 of them since July ^^. Currently I have a lot of other stuff too. I'm in love with Reaper Dark series' ogres. And currently a lot of sci fi, skeleton army, and elven army minis await (friend sent me what he didn't need ^^). Heck. I already am starting to amass a pile of shame hahaha.
But I do like AP speed paints. they reactive yes, but that's great. I worked around / with it thanks to such tips!
A great follow up summary to your first impressions video. I'm interested to learn some of your favourite speed paint mixes. I definitely think the orc skin looks much better when mixed with another colour.
I have a video idea planned for a Speed Paint mixes video, but may need to split it into a few smaller ones to be more specific - but i do like mixing them and seeing what magic happens on the palette! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes I already can't wait for that video!
Thanks! What an example of a perfect video - quick to the point, with great clear examples. I got super inspired to try out new methods with my speed paint now!
Thank you very much! I like to mix it up now and again - and thought let's just get stuck straight in with this list!
Glad to hear that the video got you thinking, what will you be painting next with them?
Nice to finally see a review using reactivation as a technique instead of a complaint. Great job!
Well i try to be fair, and if something doesn't work - i first want to make sure it was not me doing something wrong, but then if i can find a way to make it work then i would certainly share it for others too :):)
Best start to a video ever. Directly into the content that was reflected by the videos title! Brilliant!
Points made are also very direct and to the point. With great examples of comparisions for each tip to further point out the advantages of the work. Excellent work! Instant liked and subscribed.
Thank you very much! Sometimes you just have to get into the meat of it, otherwise it would be way too long and i would get bored editing it! haha
Glad to have you on board and hope that you will enjoy the future videos! :):)
knowing tips like these keeps it fun thanks lots of great info for the masses
Thank you for the kind words! :) You got to have fun whilst painting toy soldiers :):)
Amazing tips! Those orc fleshtones look really good. Some mixing recipies I've been using:
Akhelian green - 1:1 magic blue/orange (a bit greener than Citadel's, but still nice)
Bluish grey - 1:4:1 magic blue/gravelord grey/medium (looks great on stones!)
Purple - 1:1 magic blue/blood red (a little bit patchy, but just fine if you don't want to get hive dweller purple, one of the worst colors)
Maroon - 1:2 magic blue/blood red
Redish light brown - 1:1 bolt/blood red
Some other recipies are welcome!
THIS IS FANTASTIC!
Thank you for sharing with the community, i will write these down for myself too - i like the Bluish Grey idea for stones!
Ty for the akhelian green...have you have any other successes you came up with? Maybe more of a list?
very good video, right to the topic from the first second, no clickbaiting, very consistent. way to go!
I appreciate that, thanks very much.
I thought i would mix up the style of video on the channel and do a quickfire one :)
Those tips on weathering metal armour are brilliant. Thx.
Thank you very much!! Yes i've got a whole bunch of evil miniatures to do them on. Hopefully i will get onto them in a couple of months.
DO you think you may use a similar method on any of your historical minis?
@@SwordsandBrushes absolutely
Very helpful. Clear and concise.
Glad it was helpful! :) Any tips that stood out for you?
This video is extremely helpful. Well done! I'm going to try some of the tips on an Obliterator WIP.
Glad it was helpful! :) Any tips that stood out to you the most?
Happy painting the Obliterator!! :)
Hey Chris! A GREAT video showing the uses and techniques! One of the best I've seen on Speed Paints so far!!!! I'm new to the hobby of miniature painting and try to watch as many videos as I can and this is definitely one that I've saved! Thanks again - Tom
I'm very glad to hear that you are getting into miniature painting! It's such a therapeutic and enjoyable hobby i find, is there anything specific that you are going to paint?
Thank you for letting me know that you enjoyed the video! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes Oh.... just about anything I suppose. I have many tabletop games to learn but nobody to play with yet. :( Just purchased a 3D printer as well so the choices are pretty much endless. I've always like Orcs and Goblins. :)
Fantastic! Orcs and Goblins are my favourite Fantasy miniatures, closely followed by the Undead and then Dark Elves. Are you close to any hobby stores/clubs at all?
@@SwordsandBrushes ZERO clubs near me, but a hobby store about an hour away. Trying to find some folks to play any type of tabletop game but striking out so far... :(
ah thats a shame, perhaps there may be a facebook/reddit group that may be local. Otherwise it looks like you are going to have to start something! :):)
Blending tip is some 10/10 stuff.
Thanks!! They seem to be pretty versatile paints to use, and i seem to be using them more and more on my projects these days in one way or another :)
Love your commenatry and footage, good & helpful examples, nicely summing up the possibilities! Keep it up, gl & hf whiel at it! :)
Thank you for the kind words, i try to make the video style that i would have liked to see when i was coming into the hobby, and then put a bit of my personality into the mix too haha
Not got around to trying speed paints yet but will be soon thank you for some very thought prevoking tips
Thank you very much, i've been trying them through an airbrush in the last week and discovered a few useful ideas for them - so i shall make that the next video - it's good to experiment! :)
Super useful video, thank you!
Glad it was helpful! :):)
That skeleton at 2:30 has incredible color on it!
Thank you kindly! it was done in my "teal" stage where i did them, Eldar and Tomb Kings with similar colours haha
Great video, looking forward to trying some of the tips for metal and weathering as currently I'm not very good at those. I'm starting to use speed paints more and more, my favourite paints are scale 75 artist range but when you have 2k points to paint speedpaints and contrast paints are the way to go. I wish I had discovered airbrushing speed/contrast onto skeletons before I painted my OBR (skeleton) army! I discovered that late in my process and it made such a difference, even looked better.
Thank you, yes it should be a whole new ball park when the new metal set for Speed paint comes out - definitely do a new video for that one!
Oh i can imagine, it's a bit annoying when you discover. anew process after you have finished a project and you just know it would have worked better/saved time haha
But then i suppose you can just paint something new! :):)
Thank you for all these relevant and very useful tips!👍👍
My pleasure! Glad that they are helpful in some way.
Hope to make a part 2 once i get the metallic set!
Great video. I learn a lot. Thanks.
Thank you very much! Hope some of the tips will help! :)
This is a fantastic tip video!!! The techniques are great to maximize the speedpaint properties
Thank you very much and glad it was helpful! Any tip that stood out the most for you? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes I would say both the speedpaint over metallics, and the blending of colors. I will definately be using those.
Loved the video. Have been nervous about using this paint for a while and the times I do use it, I don't seem to get the right amount of coverage. This video definitely make me feel more at ease. Def earned a sub.
Thank you kindly! I'm glad that i could shed some light to them and hopefully help you out.
I pretty much used them on some scrap miniatures first to test out what they can do, id suggest the same for you as well - then you get a feel for them as they are quite different to a normal acrylic paint.
Hope you enjoy using them! :)
Thanks for the video. Will try some of those tricks
Thank you kindly! Were there any that stood out the most for you? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes loved the scratching off speedpaints over silver primer.
oh yeh! I think thats the route i will go with my Uruk Hai troops - i've got a fair few to get through! haha
This is some really useful info. I normally use this for painting mobs. I get some interesting results by doing a full dry brush of white over a black base coat and it seems to create an almost sketchbook, art-house style that I have really fallen in love with.
Thank you Rae! Glad that you liked the video :)
Sounds like an excellent method to me! I think i would do the same for my D&D board game miniatures.
Currently i'm chipping away at some Orcs that are in a similar way, but i am layering and highlighting a few bits afterwards - just because i saved a bit of time with Speedpaints at the start - so painting 36 doesn't seem like such a task now! haha
Fantastic tips
Glad you like the video :):)
Very useful and right to the point! Learned a lot!
Thank you very much, do you have them currently in your paint range?
Love the name by the way! :):)
Yes I got the speedpaint starter set.
amazing tips, thanks a lot!
Thank you very much, and a big thank you for watching :):)
Great video - you really put together a lot of what I've learned from watching various videos on Speedpaints and what I've been using them to do. Main new tip that I'll try that you had was to start light and go dark for layering. Considering how hard it is to go from dark to light with these paints that makes a lot of sense. For the same reason, I've learned to do zenithal highlighting with extra hits of white on key areas and anything I want to paint a lighter color.
Thank you kindly! I'm glad that the video could be of use to you :)
I remembered painting water colours in art class for school back in the day and it felt like these were the same but for miniatures, so i naturally started to use them from light to dark haha
What have you been using them for recently? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes I started painting in March. Since starting I'm heavily dependent on Speedpaints and focused on knocking out my board game minis. Largest job yet was Dune Imperium premium pieces and I'm most of the way through a Nemesis core box. I'm learning to blend various techniques, but as a whole the center of it is Speedpaints.
Awesome!!! Well i wish you luck in your hobby journey and have fun painting! :):)
This is great stuff. I love my Speed Paints. My boxed games are finally getting painted.
Glad that you liked the video :) Yes the paints are pretty useful, what are you getting through at the moment? :)
You paint so well man! Subbed!
Thank you so much 😀
The bases worked really well. Might need to get some of these. I used green over metal for my Lothlorien and it turned out well.
It was a pleasant discovery, and now its my go to method (including some drybrushing) for my Mordor force - which should hopefully make an appearance at some point.
I will check out your Lothlorien video when i have a cup of tea later :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes Hahaha make sure it's a big tea. Do you think purple or blue over the silver would work for some high elves?
Oo i can definitely see it! Go for it :):)
This is still the best speed paint video on TH-cam
Thank you for the kind words! I just thought a quickfire video using these would be best :)
Hope to do a follow up when i eventually get the new paints :)
3:04 did not know they did that. Thats a game changer
That was an absolute fluke of a discovery, when i was creating the video - i had some paint left in the airbrush and thought why not!
I have quite a number of Goblins given to me recently and now i will just get them done in this way! :):)
This was really helpful
Glad the video can help :):)
Thank you for a very interesting and informative vid, very inspiring 👍
Thank you kindly for the nice words! I try to share different methods and discoveries and failures where possible just to give the best insight possible for others :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes No worries, credit where it's due.
Keep up the good work ☺
Thank you!! I'm thinking of making a series of shorter videos too as they would be some useful quick guides/tips in between these longer videos, just to try and provide more useful content out there! :):)
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for. I really wanted to know about mixing paints for a variety of skin tones.
I've got a lot of Blood Bowl teams and Necromunda Gangs to paint.
Glad that i could help, I may need to update the list to add airbrushing these too!
Love the look of Blood Bowl and Necromunda, it's nice to see that they are being loved again with a plethora of new miniatures! :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Now to get cracking on my 20 year backlog of unpainted/unassembled minis.🙀
thats a fair amount! good luck :):)
Excellent video!
Thank you very much! :)
Thanks!
Oh wow thank you for the super! Im glad that you liked the video :):)
Useful cheers, I only bought the starter set out of curiosity but never really used them. I did find out by accident that iso propyl alcohol doesn't strip it, just makes it change colour to a lighter hue.
oo interesting! how and why did you think of using iso propyl? I may have to try for myself and see if it would be useful for something on my "to paint" stash
@@SwordsandBrushes I use it for stripping and cleaning minis and resin 3d prints. More often than not soaking for a day or two will dissolve acrylic paint from plastic minis but leaves rattlecan primer intact.
Threw some AP Speedpaint Orc Skin on King of the Dead and Heralds to test the stuff and got the unexpected result when stripping it. My theory is Speedpaint is something similar to artists' Gouache paint using Gum Arabic biopolymers as a binding agent instead of acrylic. Feel free to test my theory and make a video out of it 😝
@@tuvaaq I use rattle can primers. I also use `bio strip` to strip minis. So far i have observed it works well on plastic, green stuff and metal but can leave resin with shade of the paint (it re-primes fine). An old jam jar (metal lid) and you only need to soak for about 15 minutes, then clean under a tap with an old toothbrush. Can also keep reusing the same jar of gunk regardless of the how bad it looks.
@Gavin Wilkinson cheers, not tried biostrip. I was using rattlecans but switched to airbrush priming recently. I use either acetone or Dettol for completely stripping second hand minis and iso for rinsing or when I've tried something and want to start again but leave the primer intact. I bought a cheap ultrasonic cleaner from a website that sells off amazon returns, totally worth the £10 for removing stubborn paint in recesses and washing minis of any factory residues prior to painting.
One thing I did find is you can't drop resin minis in iso and forget about them for 3 days, they turn to rubber and crack 😂
@ Neil Hunter That sounds like a lot of science there haha - but certainly an interesting concept!
New sub and small YTer here. Just wanted to compliment on your great production value!
Thank you kindly :):) I try to do what i can, still learning the video side of things but feel like i have my style to the videos now :)
Love the name by the way!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thank you very much, glad that you liked it. Any tips that stood out for you, or any that you would like to add? :)
Love the tips, keep em coming, dana has unreal skills, (to self) some day dave some day
Thank you very much, literally the day after the video upload I tried Speedpaint mixed with Airbrush paints to see if i could create a certain colour i wanted - worked a treat! :):)
I do find your use of the main disadvantage of these paints, in reactivating, is actually used to your advantage. That was a really clever idea and has inspired me to see if I can use it to do natural blending on organic parts of large models - notably the feathers/wings of the Vulcha from Games-Workshop.
Thank you! After using them for a while you tend to just try things out and see what works and does not. And the reactivation seems to e one of my favourite features, another that i discovered last week (after this video) was to add a bit of Airbrush paint to a Speedpaint to create new colours - as its already thinned down - they worked a treat!!
I wish you luck on painting a Vulcha, it is an AMAZING miniature!! Please do let me know how you get on!! :)
@@SwordsandBrushes I sure will! What a great idea to turn a disadvantage into an advantage!
I've used all your tips, except for airbrushing, on my Moria goblins and troll. They can produce a very acceptable table top army without a lot of fuss. You can also get some cool, funky results that will give you a unique look. Fun line of paints and super useful tips.
Nice!! The airbrushing side of things i will slowly introduce as not everyone will have one and i would like to do it here are there.
Yes i think that both Speed Paints and Citadel Contrast can really help inspire people to get their grey plastic minis painted.
I would like to delve in deeper on the discoloured armour method, maybe not for Middle Earth, but i would LOVE to do a large undead army one day - im talking Skeletons, Zombies and Ghouls OH MY!
@@SwordsandBrushes Have you ever seen the old movie, Sword of the Valiant? The Green Knight in that movie is illuminated by green light. Looks cool IMO. A unit of armored elves with that sort of green osl effect would look cool. Could probably do it with these type paints fairly easily.
No but a quick google search suggest that i must try and watch it at some point!
Yes I totally think that would work a treat!! Maybe when i eventually get to some Mirkwood later down the line i may try that! :):)
Great video! Another tip… dry brush metalics on top. Cool effect!
Thank you very much!!! And a good tip there, thank you for sharing with the community! :):)
I will try that on something, but i am a stickler for highlights haha - maybe if i have a load of Evil minis to get through - oh wait i do! haha
Awesome channel!
Thank you! :):)
I did find some of these things out on my own by accident, but great to pick up even more tips, would really enjoy if you did a video on using speedpaints as washes :)
Nice!! What has been your favourite discovery so far?
I do tend to use then as washes quite a lot nowadays, i will have to think of a mini to paint there it can be mostly wash based.
Perhaps something from my D&D miniatures! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes I found a great way to make old red leather look with Blood red first, let it dry then a light coat of Hardened leather, and try mixing Magic blue with Plasmatic bolt and speed paint medium (one drop each) creates a amazing blue, i painted my Necrons with it.
I will give them both a go, thank you for the tips!!
Oh cool, have you got some photos online somewhere of the Necrons, would love to take a looksee! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes not finished them yet, but here is a link to two phots, not great shoots but does show the colour.
www.dropbox.com/s/a5zngpq3pz8idwm/Necrons%2001.jpg?dl=0
www.dropbox.com/s/pi6lysz2yd4ihxv/Necrons%2002.jpg?dl=0
They look really cool! the Blue really pops out nicely for them i think :):)
The bastards took the reactivation away. I loved the reactivation - great for blending and pulling out the highlights quickly.
haha i know right, ive not tried the new ones yet so i shall see how they go :)
Excellent! I was just wondering what I was going to do with some Patreon mini's with armor. Now I have a plan! Thanks!
Nice!! Do tell, what will you be painting up? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes One page rules Robot Legions, the wraith! It is really spindly and delicate. This would be a one pass move and I wouldn't have to go in with anything else. Primer with chrome rustoleum and go for it.
Nice i have just Googled them - they look fun to paint! :):)
Love it!
Thank you kindly!! Any favourites from the list, or any you can think of adding on?
@@SwordsandBrushes I think two most important are the superb use on metallics and proper coating before applying (I personally use Black primer, zenithal with darker Gray, then drybrush lighter Grey, white and finally - gloss white for the top arras). I also niticed that using cerusader skin on the Basic flesh tone from vallejo, rather than on typical white/Grey primer, results in really good skin (it is used as a kind of wash).
Excellent thank you for sharing! And also a good tip for everyone in the community about the Crusader Skin to go on top of a flesh colour.
I do hope that Army Painter add a few more colours to this range, including a new skin tone which would work better over a white undercoat :):)
i tried the speedpaint mixed with acrylic to paint zombiefied creatures. They came out great and i was done in 30 minutes!
Sweet!! Getting that backlog minis painted in no time :)
I actually have been using the acrylic and speed paints mixed (white acrylics), to make my base coat of a similar, but lighter color, on top of a black wash, and getting a good, weathered building result.
That sounds like an excellent idea! Ive been experimenting a bit by mixing in airbrush paints to come up with a few new colours too and so far so good - but ive only done it a handful of times :)
Thanks a lot for your tips in this video. Very helpful for someone like me getting (back) into the hobby of miniature painting. Am currently at a point where I want (and luckily can :-) ) achieve good results for boardgame miniatures but also where I don‘t want or need a vast range of colors or products. The Speed Paints are working out quite well for me, yet, as I experiment more with the layering and blending. On tip10 with the washes - what ratio paint:medium would you suggest for a say medium-tone wash?
And thank you very much for watching! :)
Glad to hear that you are coming back into the hobby, what Boardgame miniatures are you currently painting? (i've got a couple D&D boardgames to get through myself)
I would start with a 50/50 mix and see how you go with that, for the darker colours such as Dark wood or Grim Black you may want to go more heavy on the medium to thin it down more.
But i would suggest to just experiment with them and have a play, as they are pretty versatile - and if you do come up with anything interesting please do share on here with the rest of the community! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes Thanks for your response. I‘ll do some test runs in the upcoming painting sessions. Recent paint-jobs have been the Exosuits for Anachrony, the Minis in Cactus Town (which made me love Sand Golem for weathered leather effects), the Minis for The Dwarfs and the ships for Dead Reckoning (benefitting greatly from a 1:4 ratio paint:medium for an aquarell-type look). Current project is Ankh which is sitting here all primed and dry-brushed and just waiting for colors. But I need to do some testruns first to find a good mix for a slight reddish-brown-white look for many of the bandages. Just taking Holy White will be too grey, I fear.
these where good tips ! ty . i thought is was gonna be more of the same
Thanks very much! I try to just experiment and see what i can do when it comes to anything in the hobby - and if i can hep others somehow then it's all the better :):)
Wow great. I just ordered Hero Quest and a starter set of Army Painter colors. Can't wait to try. How do you thin those paints ? WIth water ? Thank you for the inspiration.
Nice!!Hero Quest is something that i think i should have as i know i would enjoy playing it! You can do a bit with water and it gives you some nice results - but i find the Speed Paint Medium is the best as it was made for the range :)
This must be the video that you were telling me about with the undead that you used the speed paints on. The speed paints seem to cover the surface areas and raised areas a little better on this video than the last. I just worry that once I buy them they're not going to perform the same as I see in these videos. I'm worried that the raised surfaces will just plain stay white lol . Your Mini's look great using this method so I think I will go forward and try it for myself. I have tried this method using water down acrylics to give it a more see through look but I don't like the way it looked. I'm sure using the speed paints will have a much different outcome.
Hiya the undead wrrior video was this one:
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It's the first miniature that i used the speed paints on and tested out a couple things on it. It may help a bit better that the quick tips video as you can see my whole process as i paint :)
Do you have a freind or store nearby that have the paints open and you can give them a try :)
Tip #11: if you want to avoid reactivation while layering with acrylics. Mix a 1:1 ratio of acrylic paint (for example 2 drops of some red) and paint medium ( 2 drops and mix). This will almost completely get rid of the reaction and still thin down the paint like with water, But without it!
Agreed! that seems to be working well from what i have tried so far. Have you painted much so far with this example? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes unfortunately I haven't painted with SpeedPaint (or any other paint) yet because i just started to get interested in miniature painting.
But I did decide to buy the speed paint mega set, but before that I read alot of guides and watched alot of videos. One of them in particular was mentioning how this reactivation can be easily fixed, and that in a way it's a feature that allows you to blend layers easily and do weathering by taking paint of.
Also I wanted to get the speed paint set because Ive heard that it's really good for beginners and if me and my friends buy a couple of sets (for example one friend buys normal metalic paint) we can use each other's paint in such a way that they paint with metallics and then we layer a coat of speed paint since it's more translucent than others and colors underneath change the paint alot (ofc we can use medium to think down the paint to make it more translucent)
Oh one more thing, here's the video I've talked about witch explained the reactivation fix very well (also sorry if there are any grammar mistakes I'm not all that good at English)
#3 works with any wash or ink as well.
#4 you should still thin it, comes out just as nice but saves you paint, and paint is money. Less money spent on paint, the more you can spend on mini's, or your SO.
I'm adding a #11. If you wanna use speedpaints as contrast paints without worrying about the reactivation get yourself a bottle of matte airbrush varnish. Put 5 drops in each bottle. This will prevent the worst of the reactivation if you allow the paint to fully dry before painting over it. Some colors are more prone to reactivation though, especially that red, so add a few more drops to anything giving you issues. This will not change how the speedpaint looks or its opacity.
Thats an interesting method of using some Matte airbrush varnish, thank you for sharing your findings with the community :)
I may give this a go on something, as it's always nice to experiment with these things!
@@SwordsandBrushes I first experimented with this on a plastic palette. I used about 5 drops speedpaint to one drop matte varnish. I slopped it on, let it dry for about an hour, then went at it with a water soaked brush as if I were layering and glazing. No reactivation. I can't say it wouldn't have reactivated if I scrubbed at it, but I think a lot of paints would in that situation, or at least been worn down right?
Sounds like a good experiment to me! Happy that you successfully navigated around it :)
@@SwordsandBrushes I'm all for almost half price contrast paint. LOL
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This video was brilliant, really helped me with understanding how to use the speed paints to achieve multiple effects! May I ask where did you purchase the night goblins from?
I'm very happy to hear that the video could help :) Any tips that stood out for you the most?
The night goblins are from Games Workshop and they are called Gloomspite Gitz (previously they were known as Night Goblins) and I much prefer the older rendition of the name so i still use that!
Love the tips but I think you should put a few quid in the "whilst jar!"
Thanks very much :) haha oh no, how many times did i say it?
In one of your previous videos we talked about how water can reactivate the speed paint and how varnish can stop that, however what about the washes? If I paint using speed paint, let it dry then wash, would the wash "wash" off some of the speed paint?
Same thing, just think the wash acts like water with the extra liquid that it consists of, varnish would be your friend here, however if you are careful you can use recess washes easily enough.
But as i say a few times on these videos, just give it a test and experiment with the paints - i think you can come up with some cool results! :):)
hola, que barniz me recomendais para minis pintadas con speed paint? gracias.
I have both at home the Army Painter spray can and the Vallejo mecha matt varnish which I use through an airbrush.
Both seem to work nice enough for me :)
Question, when layering, do you wait for the first layer to fully dry THEN add the next one, or are you layering while the first one is still wet?
Very good question! I tend to dry the layer first, a hair dryer does the trick nicely as it only takes a few seconds too - Then its straight onto the next layer.
If i'm batch painting however, normally the first is dry enough by the time i get to the last model i'm painting :)
How do you paint dark skin tones? Could you use something like dark wood to do it?
100% yes that is a good method if you thin it down a touch with some medium, i would also suggest to try experimenting by mixing some with Crusader skin, Zealot Yellow or even Holy White and see what different tones you get.
I may even perhaps make that into a video also! :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes I would really appreciate it haha
I got my first Armypainter Speedpaints for Battletech miniatures. I primed the whole mech black, then sprayed with grey abd drybrushed with white. Then just did the whole model in blood red. Even after 2 days of drying if I want to paint white over that red it turns into pink. Is this normal? Will the paints never stop to re-activate?
I find with any paint White is so annoying over red, for Speedpaints 1.0 this will be the same and it will be interesting how the second edition of the paints go!
I'm assuming that you are thinning down your white a decent amount so that it will go on smoother which then makes the red reactivate due to the water.
A few things i would suggest are to give it a try -
Try not to put the red on where the white will be intended - this may take a bit longer but will help with the heartache. a bit.
I find that using a hairdryer will really dry the speedpaints up a lot and this i use when i want to layer another paint straight away, as i may have limited time on my paint session. But with a watery White, it would be interesting to see how that would go.
Another method which helps on some colours i have tried it on so far is to thin down your new colour (white this instance) with the Speedpaint Medium as this will make it act differently than using water.
And finally, a coat or two of varnish after your red will provide a layer between the paints and that could be a good method also.
Hopefully something above will work nicely for you and you get your Battletechs looking awesome :):)
I recently got the Speedpaint Starter Set and have realized a problem. With normal acrylics, it is easy to make colors lighter using some white. However, I have no idea how to do that with speedpaint and I can’t find anything about it. How do I achieve the same kind of result with the speedpaints I currently have?
Ive not really found a way for this, i dont think the Speed paints were designed for that method of use - i have mixed Acrylics and Airbrush paints with Speed paints to create new colours, but it doesn't quite act the same.
But i like new colours :)
Is using a wet pallet too much for these? As in, it will make them too thin?
I would say don't use it - with a damp surface like that I forsee it spreading like a fine red wine on a white rug.
I've tend to use just a inexpensive paint palette - the one you get at a pound store \ dollar tree - which has a dimple to it so the paint can sit there whilst you use it :)
@@SwordsandBrushes awesome! Thanks for the reply!
Happy to help :):)
good tips for my speed paint i do add water sometimes
It works well doesn't it :) I look forward to trying out the new batch and checking out the new colours! :)
My only real issue Iv run into with SP is when Iv done all the main colour on my mini and the start doing other colours if I make any mistakes and get colour on my main colour I haven’t found a good simple way of repairing said mistake, does anyone have any tips or advice?
Sadly they are a bit unforgiving that way, the usual method of wetting a brush and then taking it off will take off the other layer - and i dont think anyone would spray a miniature multiple times with a varnish between colours to prevent this.
I have just learned that if i do that, is to simply let it dry and then paint the base colour i used beforehand and tidy it up with the speed paint.
But if anyone has got some good ideas then it would be great to share with the community :):)
Have you tried speed paints on a sculpted base like gen shift?
Not yet, but i do have some Cobblestone Courtyard ones from lat years BSIME meetup.
Tell you what - i'm thinking of doing short form videos and this could be a good one to start off with - give me a theme/colour scheme and then i will make the video!
You have the power!!! (don't say pink)
@@SwordsandBrushes lime green
Haha - challenge accepted!
Observation for you. The back ground "epic music" is really taking away from what is an otherwise a well-made video. I'ts just creates an unsessary wall of "noise" that disburturbs your narrating.
Thank you for letting me know! I keep tweaking as i create them and try out new things as i'm still learning - but hopefully i will get there in the end :):)
They're nice, but the reactivation problem was recently annoying.
It's certainly an interesting component of the paints, so far i find it really beneficial and allows me to experiment more than with normal acrylics. But i know that they wont be for everyone,
Like Marmite! :):)
Can someone tell me how to get a nice vibrant pink or a good pink in general with speedpaints? Mix what colors? :/ I can find a good color...I even tried to thin Purple alchemy to the point it might actually look pink but with no luck :(
I don't use Speedpaint but might have an idea.
The normal way to produce pink is to mix red or magenta with white but... this is speedpaints so I doubt that you have something pure enough...
The probably easiest way is to paint the surface white with a regular acrylic. Then mix a red or magenta with a lot of speedpaint medium and try to apply it to the surface.
Maybe one drop of paint and 3 drops of medium?
The goal is to glaze on the speedpaint thin enough for a lot of white to shine through.
@@KrullMaestaren Yes, this is the way. Value sketch your undertones and take the highlights way up. Start with a thinned mix of your Speedpaint, Contrast, whatever you're using. Like you said, you're essentially glazing or filtering at that point
I love this community when people are helping each other out! Thanks Patrik & Briars :)
Hopefully they have given you some good suggestions there.
I have not tried it yet, but you could try and mix a bit of normal acrylic white with some Speedpaint medium to thin it down and then mix that with a Red Speedpaint to try and alter the colour that way.
Or pray to the heavens that Army Painter will just expand the range! :):)
What are you painting pink?
@@KrullMaestaren Thanks for the tip. I ll try to thin both reds and apply them to a white base and see how it turns out. I guess I have to experiment more with mixing and thinning, as well as thinning mixed colors.
P.S Yes, speedpaints Holy white is not white (in my eyes at least) and it the color I dislike the most out of all of them... I cant see a use for it... maybe a really lite gray...
Use Purple Alchemy 1 part to 6 parts Speedpaint Medium. Painted an entire army of Pink Horrors that way :)
would slapchop work
with speed paints
Yes indeed it will, the pre shading technique will work well with these paints for sure :)
You rather skip over the fact that [nearly all] speedpaints do not show well when put overtop dark colors, like when you zenithal. If doing only a two tone zenithal, the darkest color you should start with is a medium shade, like medium gray or greenskin, but even those will often show through.
Yep a grey will be fine and dandy for undertones, it's my preferred method these days of spraying black, then Vallejo Ghost grey all over very lightly and then once again just for the top areas and then it's off to the speedpaints i go! :)
Who is the skeleton in the thumbnail?
It's a Skeleton from Games Workshops Shadesprire range - The Sepulchral Guard :)
You only really need one tip for this: don't use them, they're defective. Go buy Citadel's contrasts or Vallejo Xpress Color line.
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#11: don't. They hid the reactivation problem. These should have never hit the market. They couldn't crack GW's formula, and sent them out the door anyway. And it's a shame, as their new Air line is *incredible*.
Yes i think they could have been a it more transparent about it beforehand and tell people about the properties and what you can do, but i was pleasantly surprised with them and for me it's certainly a feature which they totally should have said! :)
Probably not the best for beginners though!
Awesome to hear about the air range! I have not had the pleasure of using them yet - I've got a bunch of Vallejo air paints to get through first and then i may slowly transition them out for Army painter ones.
How do you find using them?
Tip 11
Don't paint over your speed paints, as they will reactivate.
True true, just have to be a bit careful with them to not make the miniature look like it has paint soup on it :):)
Speed and contrast paints can't do anything, that regular Acrylic inks, like Liquitex ink, haven't been able to do for years. It's all marketing.
Oh yes, and I hate reactivation...
Never tried inks before, but i have seen them being used and they look similar :)
Hey Swords, can't thank you enough for all the tips you share. I pick up something every time. Cheers
Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot as i love to read and reply back where i can to people :):)
But also want to say a big than you for taking the time to watch and im super glad to hear that i can help in some way or share tips! :):)
Can you dry brush after you apply paint?
absolutely! Ive just been doing some Chaos War hounds this week that way I find the best results when the Speed paint layer is 100% dry - so either leave it overnight or just hairdryer it and carry on - i do the latter for the most part. :)
@@SwordsandBrushes great , thank you !
@@SwordsandBrushes also I wanted to use these speed paints on a 7 inch mcfarlane figure , I've never used these before but I'm assuming it will work just fine on a 7inch figure as well as a miniature....im at this 😀
Fantastic channel mate! I’m returning to the hobby and all your tutorials have been a blessing. Keep it up! 😊
Firstly - LOVE the name! and thank you, i'm glad that you like the channel and that the videos will be of use for you :)
What will you be returning too? Whats first to paint up? :)
@@SwordsandBrushes Haha why thank you! I am returning to miniatures and hobbying in general (building, painting and possibly gaming). It’s mostly just GW stuff for the moment. I was lucky to find a fantastic unopened Mines of Moria starter set from an old estate sale. I also have the Kill Team Octarius and Indomitus box set staring at me.
The quality and presentation of your tutorials are just fantastic! Would you ever consider doing epoxy resin water tutorials in the future? I would love to play around with it for basing.
oo nice! well it sounds like you have a good mix of miniatures to chose from with those boxes - and it's always nice finding a gem like the Mines of Moria in unusual places like an estate sale!
What will you be starting on first?
Thank you for the kind words, i try to do them in a way that would be informative and clear, but then have a bit of my personality in there too :)
Absolutely!! i have not even touched scenery videos yet, and i will be dong some water on my next basing tutorial too :):)
@@SwordsandBrushes The Mines of Moria will be the first thing I tick off the list.
I noticed your fellowship was blue in one of the thumbnails. Did you 3D print them?
I’m excited to see more of your content!