Hi I had this problem then I sorted the problem from ur video thankfully but wen I came to putting it back together I put the little ball bearing in first before the bars what engages the clutch
hi quick question... im putting my yz85 engine back together but i dont seem to have that washer on the back of the shaft @ 8:01 that sits into the case groove... is that a factory oem washer or one you have added? as ive might of lost mine... ive been looking at diagrams and spare oem parts, there are no signs of that washer existing.
Your not wrong Daniel, I've done several of these over the years and it seems about 50/50 that there is a washer there. You're probably fine to go ahead without if yours didnt have one originally.
I have a 2001 kx 125 and mine has the same issue but on my bike I don’t have space to put the clip on front of it I can’t find an answer any where can some one tell me how to fix that ?
Odd, sometimes folks assemble them wrong, there should be no washer/spacer between the gear and the case, if there is remove it and try putting the clip on. Other than that I'm at a loss.
I just bought a 2005 rmz250 and the kick start is stuck they said it was running 2weeks ago it had fresh gas still. The kickstart get to the position to where you can kick it to start it but it just won’t budge when trying to start it could this be the reason I’m gonna check myself it just I love in Houston and it’s about to be raining for a week
Can you push start the bike? Or at least see if the engine turns over that way. 250's a bit harder but if you need to take out the spark plug and bump start it just to make sure the engine can turn over freely. If not you got yourself an engine rebuild to do. Don't force things that are stuck, never ends well, you'll usually just damage more than what originally needed fixing. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
Thanks for the quick reply!! I’ll try to bump start and push start when the weather clears up I got the bike for $400 so I don’t mind a rebuild, I’ll keep you updated on the situation thanks
That gear sliding around could end up damaging the teeth of itself and the main drive gear on the clutch housing. Of course since it freewheels most of the time it will probably be something that happens over time as opposed to a big pop and broken teeth everywhere... hopefully.
Really helpfull good tips I was on a big hillclimb with my yamaha dt 125,i stalled it couldnt reach the back brake and the bike didnt have enough compression and started rotating the engine backwards What happend was it cracked the stopper and the big spring fell out, i put it back together and find out the smaller spring was loose and it should be tight as i know Was that the cause of the kickstarter engaging while the engine going backwards?
Its a big list of possible issues. Start with the easy ones, spark plug (BR10EG most likely). Check for good blue spark, weak spark could indicate a bad ignition coil, pickup or CDI box. Carb cleaining is always an issue, even a slightly dirty carb will give you a world of issues at various throttle positions. Throttle cable, are you even getting full throttle? I've had ones where the spring was binding in the carb and was only getting 2/3 throttle.
Schneb Hi I give it full throttle on it but it just doesn’t go anywhere(not fast) it might be like you said the spark plug because the one I had we bent the tip back and put it back in after cleaning it with a wire brush that might be the problem I don’t know carb clean may be the problem but it idols for a long time so I don’t know about that
@@thisminecraft7218 carb has several different jets in it, there's a jet just for idling and another main jet for when youre on throttle. Also there's a metering rod that works with the jet to meter the amount of fuel that can be adjusted. Also float level can be adjusted to richen or lean the fuel mixture. Its something that can drastically affect performance if not done right.
If your using an impact usually just that will break it loose but sometimes it can be a pain. Propane torch for 20 or so seconds should help, heat that nut up. That nut was probably put on with threadlock and heat will break it up almost every time. If for some strange reason that doesnt work, just jam a soft piece of steel (aluminum etc.) into the large gear where it runs on the crankshaft drive gear. It won't hurt the gear teeth as they're hardened steel but honestly, heat is your ally here.
@@SchnebsGarage Thanks, I'll try that. The kickstarter wasn't engaging, and the gear that it goes into had lost the locknut, and some teeth are broken off on it !!! Same as what happened to you. Except for a few broken teeth on that gear
No, the final drive is the crankshaft so if you have the spark plug in it or the transmission in gear it wont spin freely...at least not without some force.
I need help with my yz 85 the crankshaft isn’t moving it’s hitting the cylinder and the kick start is hard to kick but it starts but has a rattle in the engine and den cut off plz help me
First thing ..stop trying to start it or kick it. You're only doing more damage and costing yourself more $. A rattle in the engine is never a good sign, its not something easy to diagnose based on your info, but safe bet its not going to go away on its own. If youre handy take the top end and right side off the engine, most often rattles are something thats obvious once you get them apart. Could be major or it could be as simple as a broken spring. Good luck with it !!
I have problem with 2001 yz 2 stroke that dosent want to turn on, at times when try kicking it on aftet the 3rd kick it seems get really hard to kick and it always happens every after couple kicks. Can anybody help plz!! Bike has new top end new spark plug and its got spark, checked carburetor float and jets are clean and also checked reed valve and its in perfect condition.
Kick it until it gets hard then pull out the spark plug, is it excessively wet? What it sounds like is its getting way too much fuel and flooding. Air can be compressed but liquids cant thus explaining the engine getting harder to kick. If it is getting too much fuel than you need to take a deeper look at that carb.
Also check your exhaust, sometimes the packing in the silencer comes loose when the baffled tube rots out and plugs it. I've also seen mice make some nice homes out of an exhaust.
Is the groove on the shaft damaged or clogged with debris? There normally shouldnt be a whole lot of pressure on that clip that would cause it to come off so I'd look at something in that area.
Most common problem would be the clip is stretched. Try a new one they're dirt cheap. If that isnt the problem then maybe there's something wrong with the groove on the shaft, make sure its clean of dirt and not damaged, you should be able to clean it fairly easily and remove and burrs.
Close, but its not the head seals (no gasket on yz's its 2 rubber O rings). In this case it was the water pump shaft itself. It rusted and had some pits in it that wear on the rubber seals. Thanks for the comment.
You're talking about the ball that goes in the shaft on the clutch I assume? It usually stays in the shaft due to oil. Sometimes, rarely it'll roll out or stick on the end of the clutch rod.
@@daniellacooke8285 Have you tried leaning the bike over to the right all the way, should roll out, worst case tap the shaft with it leaned over. I'm wondering why you need to get the ball out, if its in there you can just leave it as there's no real need to pull it out unless there's a problem with it which isnt something that malfunctions often.
You're not wrong. I've filed many of them but this was borderline so I let it go. After a year of use the clutch works fine, no creeping feeling that you get when the basket is really bad so I got lucky on this one.
Not familiar with the Aprilia kickstart but they're all basically the same concept. Those clips often fall off and can be a real easy fix in most cases.
@@SchnebsGarage ...looks as if it was a spring that had come off and prevented the engagement... funny enough it engaged when tilting the bike just as in your case
@@stefanthynelius1250 I guess the torsion spring? That is an odd one, they usually don't just come off on their own unless something broke. Well least ya got it fixed!!
Schneb I have a question and idk how to explain it I have pic like idk if the clutch basket is supposed to move like idk how explain it so do you have like somewhere I can contact you so I can send a video of what’s wrong or pic?
Hi Justin, here's the part and part number. CIRCLIP - 93440-15012-00 I used Parzilla current price is $2.47 (www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2000/yz125-yz125m1/starter). You can google that part number and find dozens of places. Its not anything special in fact most auto parts stores would probably have them in stock.
Schneb im buying a cr80 from someone and the bike he told me the kickstart won’t go down. Would you say it’s the same problem, and just missing the clip?
My kx60 kick start is stuck. Can’t push it down. I can spin the flywheel and the bottom end (crank) is freely moving. What could be holding up the kick lever?
Hi Nick, I'm not familiar with a KX60, dont recall ever working on one of them exactly but the problem is not that uncommon in other bikes and is most likely a broken spring on the kickstarter. You will have to drain the oil out of the transmission and pull the side cover to have a look. Good luck !
@@SchnebsGarage I'm going to see if f the clutch side rotates too and spin the back wheel too see if it all spinning as well. Check out my vid. I'll post another one when I get back home.
You’re the best. I appreciate you taking the time to show how and where everything goes. Thank sir
Hi I had this problem then I sorted the problem from ur video thankfully but wen I came to putting it back together I put the little ball bearing in first before the bars what engages the clutch
man I thought I blew up my bike glad my mate showed me this vid
Yeah I thought the same but I just ended up bump starting it
Biggest legend watched the whole thing just to try and see where the long bolt goes and you actually pointed it out at the end👌
I try to be as thorough as I can ;)
Thanks for showing how you put it back together. I was worried I wasn’t putting the spring back in the right place.
Glad I could help
Lmao 😂 I had the same exact problem with the kickstarter spring positioning
hi quick question... im putting my yz85 engine back together but i dont seem to have that washer on the back of the shaft @ 8:01 that sits into the case groove... is that a factory oem washer or one you have added? as ive might of lost mine... ive been looking at diagrams and spare oem parts, there are no signs of that washer existing.
Your not wrong Daniel, I've done several of these over the years and it seems about 50/50 that there is a washer there. You're probably fine to go ahead without if yours didnt have one originally.
THANK U DO MUCH I WAS SO WORRIED
I have a 2001 kx 125 and mine has the same issue but on my bike I don’t have space to put the clip on front of it I can’t find an answer any where can some one tell me how to fix that ?
Odd, sometimes folks assemble them wrong, there should be no washer/spacer between the gear and the case, if there is remove it and try putting the clip on. Other than that I'm at a loss.
Awesome work man what did you do with that washer you found
Tossed it out, doesnt belong in there. I guessed someone put it in there in an ill fated attempt to fix the kickstarter previously.
I just bought a 2005 rmz250 and the kick start is stuck they said it was running 2weeks ago it had fresh gas still. The kickstart get to the position to where you can kick it to start it but it just won’t budge when trying to start it could this be the reason I’m gonna check myself it just I love in Houston and it’s about to be raining for a week
Can you push start the bike? Or at least see if the engine turns over that way. 250's a bit harder but if you need to take out the spark plug and bump start it just to make sure the engine can turn over freely. If not you got yourself an engine rebuild to do. Don't force things that are stuck, never ends well, you'll usually just damage more than what originally needed fixing. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
Thanks for the quick reply!! I’ll try to bump start and push start when the weather clears up I got the bike for $400 so I don’t mind a rebuild, I’ll keep you updated on the situation thanks
Hey there what’s the torque settings for the engine casing
7-12 lb/ft. for almost everything case wise.
I have this and I’m I’m wondering if is it all good if I just leave it and ride it or will it do damage?
That gear sliding around could end up damaging the teeth of itself and the main drive gear on the clutch housing. Of course since it freewheels most of the time it will probably be something that happens over time as opposed to a big pop and broken teeth everywhere... hopefully.
What is that assembly called exactly because it's hard to search for 8:39
Thank you so much, my 14 year old son just fixed his bike thanks too you
Awesome !
had the same exact issue i thought it was blown up thanks for showing it
Really helpfull good tips
I was on a big hillclimb with my yamaha dt 125,i stalled it couldnt reach the back brake and the bike didnt have enough compression and started rotating the engine backwards
What happend was it cracked the stopper and the big spring fell out, i put it back together and find out the smaller spring was loose and it should be tight as i know
Was that the cause of the kickstarter engaging while the engine going backwards?
Thats certainly a possibility. Never happened to me personally but ya never know.
@@SchnebsGaragethank you i fixed it
@@hardendurobosnia17 awesome !
Great Video man , had a problem with the kick starter … the spring wasn’t in the right position. Thanks 🙏🏾 for the video was a lot of help
Glad it helped
I needed your tip on aligning the clutch cover, thanks!
Saved me time and money, almost took to a shop
Awesome!
Thanks for the video, what size clip will I need?
Honestly I dont know offhand, sorry.
Is there any gaskets I need before I tear mine down. I believe this is my problem but would love to complete it without having to wait on parts.
technically the right side cover gasket, but if you can remove it without tearing it you can get away with a light film of rtv silicone normally.
@@SchnebsGarage thank you soo much for the great video and quick response
@@ericgholson7140 No Problem at all...good luck with the fix.
Hey question my yz85 won’t hit powerband and it’s not strong do you have any idea on why that could be?
Its a big list of possible issues. Start with the easy ones, spark plug (BR10EG most likely). Check for good blue spark, weak spark could indicate a bad ignition coil, pickup or CDI box. Carb cleaining is always an issue, even a slightly dirty carb will give you a world of issues at various throttle positions. Throttle cable, are you even getting full throttle? I've had ones where the spring was binding in the carb and was only getting 2/3 throttle.
Schneb Hi I give it full throttle on it but it just doesn’t go anywhere(not fast) it might be like you said the spark plug because the one I had we bent the tip back and put it back in after cleaning it with a wire brush that might be the problem I don’t know carb clean may be the problem but it idols for a long time so I don’t know about that
@@thisminecraft7218 carb has several different jets in it, there's a jet just for idling and another main jet for when youre on throttle. Also there's a metering rod that works with the jet to meter the amount of fuel that can be adjusted. Also float level can be adjusted to richen or lean the fuel mixture. Its something that can drastically affect performance if not done right.
How did you hold the clutch from spinning to remove the nut ?
If your using an impact usually just that will break it loose but sometimes it can be a pain. Propane torch for 20 or so seconds should help, heat that nut up. That nut was probably put on with threadlock and heat will break it up almost every time. If for some strange reason that doesnt work, just jam a soft piece of steel (aluminum etc.) into the large gear where it runs on the crankshaft drive gear. It won't hurt the gear teeth as they're hardened steel but honestly, heat is your ally here.
@@SchnebsGarage Thanks, I'll try that. The kickstarter wasn't engaging, and the gear that it goes into had lost the locknut, and some teeth are broken off on it !!! Same as what happened to you. Except for a few broken teeth on that gear
Hey what size was the clip that you put on?
Unfortunately I don't recall the size exactly, it was around 3/8 or 7/16".
@@SchnebsGarage ok thank you
@@SchnebsGarage hey just got the clip and fixed it thank you for the help :) i would’ve fuked up something without you
@@calebdrake9953 Hey thats awesome, glad to hear it worked out!
My final gear doesn’t spin freely after I installed the clutch basket. Is this an issue?
No, the final drive is the crankshaft so if you have the spark plug in it or the transmission in gear it wont spin freely...at least not without some force.
what’s that part called
Its called CIRCLIP Part #99009-12400-00.
Hey guys the snap ring size is 7/16" Lowes hardware or I'm sure any hardware store will
Sounds about right, I'm sure its a metric if youre being picky but 7/16" should do it just fine.
I need help with my yz 85 the crankshaft isn’t moving it’s hitting the cylinder and the kick start is hard to kick but it starts but has a rattle in the engine and den cut off plz help me
First thing ..stop trying to start it or kick it. You're only doing more damage and costing yourself more $. A rattle in the engine is never a good sign, its not something easy to diagnose based on your info, but safe bet its not going to go away on its own. If youre handy take the top end and right side off the engine, most often rattles are something thats obvious once you get them apart. Could be major or it could be as simple as a broken spring. Good luck with it !!
I have problem with 2001 yz 2 stroke that dosent want to turn on, at times when try kicking it on aftet the 3rd kick it seems get really hard to kick and it always happens every after couple kicks. Can anybody help plz!! Bike has new top end new spark plug and its got spark, checked carburetor float and jets are clean and also checked reed valve and its in perfect condition.
Kick it until it gets hard then pull out the spark plug, is it excessively wet? What it sounds like is its getting way too much fuel and flooding. Air can be compressed but liquids cant thus explaining the engine getting harder to kick. If it is getting too much fuel than you need to take a deeper look at that carb.
Also check your exhaust, sometimes the packing in the silencer comes loose when the baffled tube rots out and plugs it. I've also seen mice make some nice homes out of an exhaust.
@@SchnebsGarage thank you appreciate your response and yes when took out sparkplug it was full of oil
@@SchnebsGarage Thank you again!! Took top head off and had bad gasket seals
@@carloscervantes618 yea that'll do it, definately sounded more like liquid (of some kind) in the combustion chamber.
i have an issue where even with the dealer clip...it keeps popping off..what should i do?
Is the groove on the shaft damaged or clogged with debris? There normally shouldnt be a whole lot of pressure on that clip that would cause it to come off so I'd look at something in that area.
E Stacks you may have have the clip to far open, and you need to have two washer ,one the endside,and outside.
Do you know y it Frequently comes off
Most common problem would be the clip is stretched. Try a new one they're dirt cheap. If that isnt the problem then maybe there's something wrong with the groove on the shaft, make sure its clean of dirt and not damaged, you should be able to clean it fairly easily and remove and burrs.
Thx it has s ding on it so I will try to fix thx man
you need a new head gasket because the oil and coolent mixes and makes that milkshake colour
Close, but its not the head seals (no gasket on yz's its 2 rubber O rings). In this case it was the water pump shaft itself. It rusted and had some pits in it that wear on the rubber seals. Thanks for the comment.
Why was there a huge washer just sitting there in the motor
One of the great mysterious of mankind.
Now I’m stfggling to find it or get it out do you know where it goes by any chance? Thansk
You're talking about the ball that goes in the shaft on the clutch I assume? It usually stays in the shaft due to oil. Sometimes, rarely it'll roll out or stick on the end of the clutch rod.
So what should I do to try get it out maybe a long magnetic screwdriver?
@@daniellacooke8285 Have you tried leaning the bike over to the right all the way, should roll out, worst case tap the shaft with it leaned over. I'm wondering why you need to get the ball out, if its in there you can just leave it as there's no real need to pull it out unless there's a problem with it which isnt something that malfunctions often.
My problem is I put the ball in before the bars so the right way is bar ball bar but stupid me put the ball then both the bars
I’ve tried leaning it to the side but didn’t come out
Great job on the video. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Where could I get the clip from?
99009-12400-00 is the part number. But any auto parts or hardware store should have ones that will work.
What mm is the kickstart shaft on yz80 anyone???
Thanks man hit the prob right on , fixed it myself after watching vid 👍🏼 thanks
Great! Glad it helped.
Awesome. Thank you for this. You should have taken a file to those grooves on clutch basket
You're not wrong. I've filed many of them but this was borderline so I let it go. After a year of use the clutch works fine, no creeping feeling that you get when the basket is really bad so I got lucky on this one.
@@SchnebsGarage nice! Well thanks for the great video. Ill be doing this to my steel frame yz250 this weekend
What size circlip is it?
10
this happened to my bike. i thought i blew it up but then i push started it and it fired right up. Thanks!
going to try this tomorrow
@@yzinger9878 Good luck!
@@SchnebsGarage Thanks!
@@SchnebsGarage got it fixed up!
@@yzinger9878 Great stuff!
Great video bro really helped a lot very detailed thanks
Thanks, glad to be help !
Where can I find the clip
Just about any hardware store, auto parts or of course good ole amazon would have them in various sizes.
Awesome video. That was my problem also. Thanks!
glad it helped!
Thanks, great video!...I suspect I have the same issue om my sons Aprilia
Not familiar with the Aprilia kickstart but they're all basically the same concept. Those clips often fall off and can be a real easy fix in most cases.
@@SchnebsGarage ...looks as if it was a spring that had come off and prevented the engagement... funny enough it engaged when tilting the bike just as in your case
@@stefanthynelius1250 I guess the torsion spring? That is an odd one, they usually don't just come off on their own unless something broke. Well least ya got it fixed!!
Can you please help me and my dad are trying to fix my 85 please help
What is wrong with it?
Schneb I don’t know where to get like the shifter shaft a peace broke off and idk what’s it’s called or anything
@@kaydenstephan6799 www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/57a89f7f87a866123c808cea/shift-shaft
This pic might help, shows all the springs, clips etc on the shift shaft.
Schneb I have a question and idk how to explain it I have pic like idk if the clutch basket is supposed to move like idk how explain it so do you have like somewhere I can contact you so I can send a video of what’s wrong or pic?
Thank you for the video that was my problem
glad it helped!
Where can I get the clips from
Hi Justin, here's the part and part number. CIRCLIP - 93440-15012-00 I used Parzilla current price is $2.47 (www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2000/yz125-yz125m1/starter). You can google that part number and find dozens of places. Its not anything special in fact most auto parts stores would probably have them in stock.
Schneb im buying a cr80 from someone and the bike he told me the kickstart won’t go down. Would you say it’s the same problem, and just missing the clip?
kickstart won't go down...No most likely not the same issue. Make sure that engine is not seized, bump start it if you can.
Schneb hey I ordered this part but it seems to big for the shaft
Thanks dude
Any time
Lookin good for an old guy!
liar !
My kx60 kick start is stuck. Can’t push it down. I can spin the flywheel and the bottom end (crank) is freely moving. What could be holding up the kick lever?
Hi Nick, I'm not familiar with a KX60, dont recall ever working on one of them exactly but the problem is not that uncommon in other bikes and is most likely a broken spring on the kickstarter. You will have to drain the oil out of the transmission and pull the side cover to have a look. Good luck !
@@SchnebsGarage I'm going to see if f the clutch side rotates too and spin the back wheel too see if it all spinning as well. Check out my vid. I'll post another one when I get back home.
I’ve had to do this nine times and it still falls off
You need a titanium clip
Did you just...?
KICK START WITH UR HAND?!?!?!
Yes ;)
How?!?! That’s amazing
@@calebdrake9953 Sort of a snap motion rather than just a pull. I may be old but a lifetime of workin with my hands I'm kinda strong I guess.
@@SchnebsGarage my admiration for you
Well done Chris
thanks so much for the knowledge
thank you very much this video
Glad to help
Thanks for sharing bud
my pleasure, thanks fer watchin.
Thank u so much
You are very welcome ;)
So I just need to lean my bike over. mint
Lol if that's your takeaway from the video sure..
Why dosent both washers fit? I can only use one washer or else the clip won’t nt go in its groove? Do u know what’s the problem?
Possible someone put in the wrong washer at some point (they got lost easy) the right one is really thin.
where can i get the clip
It's a standard parts store item, so Napa, Oriellys etc.... hardware stores may carry them as well.