Hi Paul, another great video. Nice to see the chain pulley mech for the electric windows. I believe the radio head units were Blaupunkt for most of the Silver Spirits. The later cars may have had Alpine ones though. I know both of my Jags have Alpine fitted. But my friends Spirit has the Blaupunkt head unit.
Brilliant result, Paul. Well done! Each first time job you do like this is always going to be a learning curve. Now you know what you are up against, doing the other three doors should be easier...and you get to chose when you do them. As ever, the support from IntroCar has been magnificent. I have been surprised at how many of the tasks you have tackled - including this one - are within the capability of a DIY home mechanic and a not unreasonable set of tools. The cash you have saved on professional garage repair bills has been phenomenal. For that alone, this car has proven to be a real eye-opener for those of us who have been following your steady progress. The MOT winning post is well within sight! 👍👍
For the radio Paul, Blaupunkt do a Frankfurt RCM82 retro looking unit, but with bluetooth and a usb input that has Variocolour RGB backlighting giving 4096 colours to exactly match your dashboard lighting. Nice job on the door and door cards by the way, watching from Norwich!
Remember seeing Harry’s Garage Silver Shadow when he 1st entered to his garage, he couldn’t believe how fast Rolls Royce electric windows were. Far quicker than a lot of moderns, 50 years it’s junior. Well done again, Paul
This is the kind of servicing and repair I enjoyed doing on my cars over the years! Replacing brake pads and shoes, refitting dampers and all that are essential...but I enjoy these "little" fiddly tasks more. The speakers you bought look to be vastly superior to what the factory fitted from new. I imagine Queen sound perfect through them! Ah...all the pleasant hours you'll have wringing out your audio system after you get that MOT; it makes me smile. Being an avid cyclist, it was the chain mechanism in your door that caught my attention. I travel up steep hills all the time, and the chains on my bikes stretch...badly, This has the consequence of the gear cassettes wearing excessively if I don't replace the chains every year-and-a-half or so. This preventive maintenance routine of mine has made me curious about your window dragging as it is brought back into the fully up position... It would be another "mammoth task," but if I had the tremendous luxury (and wealth and time and patience), I would have been sorely tempted to remove the chain in the window and try to place it dead set against a new chain of the EXACT same specification. It would enable me to see if "chain stretch" could be a factor in why the window drags. If the old chain with the EXACT same number of links in it is longer than the new chain, then...well...there's your chain stretch. Such a chain HAS to be replaced on a bicycle, which as an absolute doddle. Probably not necessary in your case, though. I'd wager that only the driver's door window gets all the hard slog whilst the other three pretty much just sit around all day. Still, in your shoes, I'd be curious and try to find a shop that has a Rolls-Royce window chain with which to compare mine. Oh, sure...there's that shop next to the pub down the road that has heaps of 'em!😅🤣😆🤣 Ah...the ridiculous mind of a ridiculous bicyclist. I bring myself to tears... 😭😢 Aloha and continued success!
@jimcabezola3051 completely understand, from a fellow cyclist ! I've got 3 bikes. Planet X road bike, single speed 1980s track frame converted to free wheel, and a hard tail MTB
@@life_on_cars Wow! I've 2 Trek 4300 mountain bikes, a Trek Gary Fisher hybrid and a Nomad GT hybrid (essentially a no name store brand...). Mine are all beaten to Hell and back. Enjoy the heck out of your bikes!
I too have several bikes but not ridden them in the last few years. I had the same issue on my Mercedes 190e driver's side window, fast on the way down, slow on the way up and there is no chain system, just a standard toothed arched regulator, no cables. One of the runners was overly clamped to the door and gripping the glass tightly, loosening it helped matters. Silicone spray also helped along with a general lubrication, but I fear the motor is a little weak due to it being the most used.
Smashing repair Paul - we used to use a product callled Carboflow to lubricate the Glass Run Seals - it lasted for ages and makes the glass hurtle up and down. It elimates most of the drag from the glass run flock coating.
Paul...i was watching My Mate Vince and his Rolls Royce build some years back and i recall..if you add silicone spray down the felt channel in the window frame it will speed up the window up and down.
Sound deadening stops the door panel vibrating or resonating. You also need something directly behind the speakers to prevent sound reflecting back from the door panel through the speaker and causing destructive acoustic interference. A small square of Synthetic Carpet (so it will not Rot) glued to the inside of the door directly behind the speaker works well and adding this will result in an astonishing improvement in sound. (Especially if the Plastic rain shield is cut away to allow the speaker to operate without hinderance) I had a specialist Car Audio business for 30 years and as an Alpine Agent attended Alpine"s GAIT technical courses. It never failed to amaze me how High End Car Manufacturers installed garbage speakers and seemed to have no one in their design team with even basic knowledge of Audio systems. Daimler Sovereigns speaker systems were particularly bad with speakers hanging in mid air in the doors with not even a sealed baffle to the grills. Their answer to the resulting lack of Bass was to add bass speakers mounted into the chassis cross member beneath the seats!
I'm very surprised that Rolls Royce fitted speakers with foam edges rather than butyl rubber. I could be wrong but there appears to be little sound deadening in there. Mind you, RR's are pretty silent anyway, ha!
Excellent job as usual Paul. Amazing you could still get those correct speakers and wonderful what the correct lubes can do on a 31yo automobile! PS; Just completed a thermostat and housing replacement in my 2007 XK. Codes revealed a cold motor, thermostat stuck open. Jay Milwaukee, WI USA
You are doing wonderful work on this beauty of a car, I've just bought a second hand car and every speaker is blown, so guess what I'll be doing next week?? but it will alot easier than the roller, thanks for the videos, been watching since the start (on the RR) and really enjoying the series
Watching through this video, I was anxious to fast-forward to see what the secret is to aligning the retaining clips on the door car on to the holes in the door (as I've always found this to be a tedious task). I was comforted and reassured to see (34:19) that I do not have a unique experience with these. 🙂
Great job. When this car is about done, and road legal, it would be good to include some footage of when you picked it up, to do a back to back comparison of just how far you've come with it.
That Radio is the Factory Alpine 7618RR (RR denoting it’s a factory made for Rolls Royce by Alpine), very desirable and valuable (around £500 just for the radio/cassette, plus you’ll have a CD changer in the trunk, and two small Alpine amplifiers behind the drop down panel in the trunk also. Gorgeous set up and very rare to see if all complete in the car thanks to people wanting Bluetooth capabilities. If it were me I’d leave it completely original, not many left complete. Love you videos buddy. Feel free to contact me if you require and audio and security advice for the Rolls Royce.
Hi Paul, slow windows can be caused by several different problems and the following might be worth checking. The U Section that the glass slides in (and the waist seals) can either have a 'Slip' Coating or 'Flock' coating that could have worn off or wearing off and if the bare rubber shows through that's when it gets slow - You have effectively replaced the slip coat / flock coating by spraying on silicone but might be worth looking at - Is drivers side the worst ? Most Used ?
Nice one Paul! The speakers on my Turbo R could do with refreshing, though it's probably a bit much for me and they aren't terrible. The head unit will have also been Alpine, they were unbranded specifically at Rolls-Royce's request. Mine is no longer there, a previous owner has replaced it with a much more modern, but still Alpine unit. Fortunately for me the later model years have a wood panel in front of it so I don't mind that it looks a bit out of place, it's mostly hidden. If it was on show like yours though I'd definitely get something like the Blaupunkt Bremen instead.
It's a sound and proven idea, we have the same chain drive system , albeit manually cranked version in our 97 years old Rolls Phantom and it works perfectly and never given trouble !
I’ve got to do this to my 91 SZII, what size cm/inch are the speakers within the bracket please mate? 6inch? Will buy the speakers beforehand I think
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Need to do the same at my Spirit II, Geneva Motor Show car of 1990. I‘ve already had refurbished my bass speakers as original, because new ones are not anymore made for classical music!!! Just need new mid range ones. And I need to replace the high tune spakers under the dash roll. Will you do That too?
Hi Paul, another great video. Nice to see the chain pulley mech for the electric windows. I believe the radio head units were Blaupunkt for most of the Silver Spirits. The later cars may have had Alpine ones though. I know both of my Jags have Alpine fitted. But my friends Spirit has the Blaupunkt head unit.
Brilliant result, Paul. Well done! Each first time job you do like this is always going to be a learning curve. Now you know what you are up against, doing the other three doors should be easier...and you get to chose when you do them. As ever, the support from IntroCar has been magnificent. I have been surprised at how many of the tasks you have tackled - including this one - are within the capability of a DIY home mechanic and a not unreasonable set of tools. The cash you have saved on professional garage repair bills has been phenomenal. For that alone, this car has proven to be a real eye-opener for those of us who have been following your steady progress. The MOT winning post is well within sight! 👍👍
For the radio Paul, Blaupunkt do a Frankfurt RCM82 retro looking unit, but with bluetooth and a usb input that has Variocolour RGB backlighting giving 4096 colours to exactly match your dashboard lighting. Nice job on the door and door cards by the way, watching from Norwich!
Remember seeing Harry’s Garage Silver Shadow when he 1st entered to his garage, he couldn’t believe how fast Rolls Royce electric windows were. Far quicker than a lot of moderns, 50 years it’s junior. Well done again, Paul
This is the kind of servicing and repair I enjoyed doing on my cars over the years! Replacing brake pads and shoes, refitting dampers and all that are essential...but I enjoy these "little" fiddly tasks more.
The speakers you bought look to be vastly superior to what the factory fitted from new. I imagine Queen sound perfect through them! Ah...all the pleasant hours you'll have wringing out your audio system after you get that MOT; it makes me smile.
Being an avid cyclist, it was the chain mechanism in your door that caught my attention. I travel up steep hills all the time, and the chains on my bikes stretch...badly, This has the consequence of the gear cassettes wearing excessively if I don't replace the chains every year-and-a-half or so.
This preventive maintenance routine of mine has made me curious about your window dragging as it is brought back into the fully up position...
It would be another "mammoth task," but if I had the tremendous luxury (and wealth and time and patience), I would have been sorely tempted to remove the chain in the window and try to place it dead set against a new chain of the EXACT same specification. It would enable me to see if "chain stretch" could be a factor in why the window drags. If the old chain with the EXACT same number of links in it is longer than the new chain, then...well...there's your chain stretch. Such a chain HAS to be replaced on a bicycle, which as an absolute doddle. Probably not necessary in your case, though. I'd wager that only the driver's door window gets all the hard slog whilst the other three pretty much just sit around all day.
Still, in your shoes, I'd be curious and try to find a shop that has a Rolls-Royce window chain with which to compare mine.
Oh, sure...there's that shop next to the pub down the road that has heaps of 'em!😅🤣😆🤣
Ah...the ridiculous mind of a ridiculous bicyclist. I bring myself to tears... 😭😢
Aloha and continued success!
@jimcabezola3051 completely understand, from a fellow cyclist ! I've got 3 bikes. Planet X road bike, single speed 1980s track frame converted to free wheel, and a hard tail MTB
@@life_on_cars Wow! I've 2 Trek 4300 mountain bikes, a Trek Gary Fisher hybrid and a Nomad GT hybrid (essentially a no name store brand...). Mine are all beaten to Hell and back. Enjoy the heck out of your bikes!
I too have several bikes but not ridden them in the last few years. I had the same issue on my Mercedes 190e driver's side window, fast on the way down, slow on the way up and there is no chain system, just a standard toothed arched regulator, no cables. One of the runners was overly clamped to the door and gripping the glass tightly, loosening it helped matters. Silicone spray also helped along with a general lubrication, but I fear the motor is a little weak due to it being the most used.
Smashing repair Paul - we used to use a product callled Carboflow to lubricate the Glass Run Seals - it lasted for ages and makes the glass hurtle up and down. It elimates most of the drag from the glass run flock coating.
@@datsunruss I'll look for that thanks
Paul...i was watching My Mate Vince and his Rolls Royce build some years back and i recall..if you add silicone spray down the felt channel in the window frame it will speed up the window up and down.
Sound deadening stops the door panel vibrating or resonating. You also need something directly behind the speakers to prevent sound reflecting back from the door panel through the speaker and causing destructive acoustic interference. A small square of Synthetic Carpet (so it will not Rot) glued to the inside of the door directly behind the speaker works well and adding this will result in an astonishing improvement in sound. (Especially if the Plastic rain shield is cut away to allow the speaker to operate without hinderance)
I had a specialist Car Audio business for 30 years and as an Alpine Agent attended Alpine"s GAIT technical courses.
It never failed to amaze me how High End Car Manufacturers installed garbage speakers and seemed to have no one in their design team with even basic knowledge of Audio systems.
Daimler Sovereigns speaker systems were particularly bad with speakers hanging in mid air in the doors with not even a sealed baffle to the grills.
Their answer to the resulting lack of Bass was to add bass speakers mounted into the chassis cross member beneath the seats!
I'm very surprised that Rolls Royce fitted speakers with foam edges rather than butyl rubber. I could be wrong but there appears to be little sound deadening in there. Mind you, RR's are pretty silent anyway, ha!
Fantastic big man , you’re gonna have to get the other doors/ speakers sorted, as we all know you don’t do things by half 👍🏴
Oh my goodness yes! There's another 3 doors to do!
Excellent job as usual Paul. Amazing you could still get those correct speakers and wonderful what the correct lubes can do on a 31yo automobile! PS; Just completed a thermostat and housing replacement in my 2007 XK. Codes revealed a cold motor, thermostat stuck open.
Jay
Milwaukee, WI USA
You are doing wonderful work on this beauty of a car, I've just bought a second hand car and every speaker is blown, so guess what I'll be doing next week?? but it will alot easier than the roller, thanks for the videos, been watching since the start (on the RR) and really enjoying the series
Watching through this video, I was anxious to fast-forward to see what the secret is to aligning the retaining clips on the door car on to the holes in the door (as I've always found this to be a tedious task). I was comforted and reassured to see (34:19) that I do not have a unique experience with these. 🙂
Great job. When this car is about done, and road legal, it would be good to include some footage of when you picked it up, to do a back to back comparison of just how far you've come with it.
You might consider a refoaming kit for your speakers. I did it for the bass speakers on my Mazda 929S and it worked well.
Just amazing how you can get all the bits for this car. Another quality job!
great job I would have sprayed oil in the bottom of the door while it was opened up to prevent it from rusting from inside out
@daggggy the doors are aluminium and well protected 😉
Hey, R.i.P. here, amazing work and looking forward to the next video!
Three more doors to go. Autoglym should sponsor you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Radio is the Factory Alpine 7618RR (RR denoting it’s a factory made for Rolls Royce by Alpine), very desirable and valuable (around £500 just for the radio/cassette, plus you’ll have a CD changer in the trunk, and two small Alpine amplifiers behind the drop down panel in the trunk also.
Gorgeous set up and very rare to see if all complete in the car thanks to people wanting Bluetooth capabilities.
If it were me I’d leave it completely original, not many left complete.
Love you videos buddy. Feel free to contact me if you require and audio and security advice for the Rolls Royce.
Hi there thanks for the info. The Amps are still there but the CD changer is missing unfortunately
Great video as always.
Great video, I was just wondering what the make of the small speakers was thanks.
Hi Paul, slow windows can be caused by several different problems and the following might be worth checking. The U Section that the glass slides in (and the waist seals) can either have a 'Slip' Coating or 'Flock' coating that could have worn off or wearing off and if the bare rubber shows through that's when it gets slow - You have effectively replaced the slip coat / flock coating by spraying on silicone but might be worth looking at - Is drivers side the worst ? Most Used ?
Nice one Paul! The speakers on my Turbo R could do with refreshing, though it's probably a bit much for me and they aren't terrible.
The head unit will have also been Alpine, they were unbranded specifically at Rolls-Royce's request. Mine is no longer there, a previous owner has replaced it with a much more modern, but still Alpine unit. Fortunately for me the later model years have a wood panel in front of it so I don't mind that it looks a bit out of place, it's mostly hidden. If it was on show like yours though I'd definitely get something like the Blaupunkt Bremen instead.
Only Rolls-Royce could have the idea of sticking half a bicycle in their doors... 😁😁😁
It's a sound and proven idea, we have the same chain drive system , albeit manually cranked version in our 97 years old Rolls Phantom and it works perfectly and never given trouble !
Won't it start?
A comparison with the speed of the passenger door window would have been interesting...
Dont forget its pretty cold inside your garage, which wont help the speed of the window mechanisms
I’ve got to do this to my 91 SZII, what size cm/inch are the speakers within the bracket please mate? 6inch? Will buy the speakers beforehand I think
Need to do the same at my Spirit II, Geneva Motor Show car of 1990. I‘ve already had refurbished my bass speakers as original, because new ones are not anymore made for classical music!!! Just need new mid range ones. And I need to replace the high tune spakers under the dash roll. Will you do That too?
Wow, so RR would put in speakers that would compliment your choice in music? That is service!
I do hope that you sprayed the inside of doors with anti rust before you put all the trimming back!!
The doors are all aluminium in a pointless attempt to save weight - they're still pretty heavy, but at least they don't rot.
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That's an awfully loud motor, especially for a Rolls-Royce.