I would really LOVE to see how the tree looks now! I have this same tree and I never knew this was something I would need to do. I planted one with my son a few years ago and it’s taken forever to grow. I use fertilizer in the Spring and it’s been watered daily and pruned when needed, and I was unaware of this care it would need. Thank you for posting this educational video and if you could please share a new video of how it grew better because of what you did, that would be amazing!
Daily watering causes weak, shallow root system. The ground needs to dry out slightly, then the tree instinctively grows deeper roots in search of ground water. This causes a larger, stronger root system to develop which then leads to a healthier, stronger tree. Or most plants in general.
Happy to see a fellow tree surgeon using a hand saw for basic pruning so many guys use Stihl 201t or other top handles for little stuff when it is overkill We use handsaws more than anything else while pruning small trees as well as minor cuts on large trees. Great work Sir! subscribed
Rufus LC Cher's man! Handsaws are certainly under-tilized in our industry. I use them as much as possible and even find myself using the to finish larger pruning cuts, keeps me away from my onehanding habit.
This is an amazing video. The real-time decisions on reducing and removing. The comment on thinning vs structural pruning. The three cut method in practice. Wow. As an armchair/backyard arborist I really enjoyed watching and learned a lot. I really hope you can do more of these structural pruning videos. If possible, maybe an Ulmus or Zelkova? They have unruly whips with no leader and its hard to develop a leader on a young tree. Keep up the awesome work.
wow, I really appreciate that and glad you were able to learn from it (that's the goal)! I have been lacking on making videos lately but do plan on getting back to it soon. I know what you mean about Ulmus. Our main variety here is Ulmus pumila which grows like a weed and it's hard to find one with potential to be a "choice" tree. Zelkova are few and far between here, they don't get very big, and borers love them! Very difficult to structure prune unless you catch them very young. If the opportunity arises to work on either of these two I'll do my best to film it. Thanks again!
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 I'd love more structural pruning videos on any species. (Of course, only if you have the time to film/edit.) I think it will be a great channel. Subscribed and thank you!
Had to remove a 50 year old silver maple from my front yard. It was so sad but due to the trunk split that they have I could risk it weakening g and falling on my house. I literally cried after it was done. We have planted an October Glory Maple in its place. A much smaller maple. It’s turning out to be a wonderful tree.
I know the feeling of losing an old tree, especially if it was older then oneself. I’m glad you planted a new one in its place. I hope your tree still a beautiful one. ❤
This video reminds me of my neighbor's old red maple tree. It was 60 ft tall, but it was brought down by the severe derecho storm last August (Iowa). The tree was beautiful overall, but its core structure was a dense mess, including a lot of vertical branches competing with the leader. It really could have used some pruning earlier in its life.
I have a maple tree that’s a little bigger than this one and it has the exact same issues. Lots of branches crossing each other and it’s way too thick.
My autumn blaze maple is just a few years old and I planted it in January. I had a tree trimmer come to prune my fruit trees and he cut off about two feet off my maple’s central leader. Is this ever a good idea? It was shaped beautifully. I feel like now it will create a Y, am I wrong,?
Great video and explanation. Appreciate the commentary before making the cuts and also the before and after. Curious to know if you climbed up to get your rope in the tree or were you able to set it from the ground. Thank you 👍🏻
My guess on this guy is around 15 years old. Make sure to do any vigorous pruning while the tree is quite young to help it establish a strong central leader. That will encourage the tree to have a long and healthy life. First order for you will be to make sure you plant it correctly. Good luck with your tree!
No, it wouldnt as a tree needs to grow to survive. Both roots and canopy. In theory you could take sort of a bonsai approach and root prune every couple years as well as a canopy reduction every few years. Would be extremely labor intensive as well as stressful for the tree. You would be better off planting a tree shorter growth characteristics.
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 In theory I can just grow a tree in a pot, and put the pot in the ground? That would limit it's size as the size of the pot would limit the size of the tree. Maybe just cut a hole in the bottom of the pot for better drainage.
@@jzizzles7799 You would still have to root prune to allow space for roots to grow. If the roots can't continue to grow, the tree will die. When you root prune you will then have to reduce the canopy because root loss will lead to canopy desiccation to balance its root/canopy ratio. It will be an ongoing maintenance, but doable to an extent.
Kevin - thanks for this great demo! It has been so helpful as my tree is very similar to the one you are working on here. Question, if you would be so kind as to respond - how many years do you think it would take for the tree to fill in after removing the competing leader like your doing? The weak-point for my tree is lower on the tree. There are few inner branches growing from the weak point...or crotch on up that would make the tree look balanced after the competing leader is removed.
Very glad you enjoyed the video. As for your question, it will depend on a few factors. First, how your growing conditions are for your particular tree (soil, climate, exposure, etc.). For an example, these Autumn blaze do pretty good in most of Boise, but start to stress the more West you go and you can really see the difference in how they react after pruning. A young healthy tree like the one in this video will fill in quite nicely and potentially need another dose, which will be minimal, in 5-7 years from time of pruning. It will also depend on how much pruning is initially needed, as well as the size of cuts that need to be made. It's hard to give "exacts" as every situation is different. I hope this helps and/or answers your question a little.
Some random GUY Pinus nigra, commonly known as Austrian pine. Those and Pinus sylvestris are the main pine trees around Boise with the odd placed ponderosa.
My mother planted one of these when I was a child now that it's a good 60 70 feet tall its terrifying when the wind is up. Its wood is so weak but no one want to listen ssoo when it lands on my fathers lap in a downslope event I hope he makes it out alive. It has some of the weakest wood I've seen I can literall grab a tiny branch and gently pull and bring down a huge chunk of the tree
They can be depending on how close you are thinking of planting. I have seen them lift up concrete walkways, but not so much a home foundation. Close enough and I'm sure it could though. I would recommend if planting close to a house to install some root barrier along your areas of concern to eliminate the potential before it becomes a problem.
Great work on this one! Side note, excellent responses to some of comments 👍🏼 the armchair arborist keeps very busy on TH-cam while the rest of us are out making it happen. Sounds like you're pretty close to BOI
Thanks man! I try to keep responses as helpful and educational as possible. A lot of times there are factual responses that will end the "trolls" desire to win an argument. It can get quite difficult sometimes though. By BOI I'm guessing you mean Boise? I thought you sounded familiar and sure enough you and I had messaged on the buzz about a potential move. So yes, in Boise. Let me know how those plans come along because work is picking up nicely and we need as much legitimate arborists in the area as possible!
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 yea BOI, the airport! I am that guy! We are just getting the house prepped for sale. I'd love to make it this spring but I don't think it will be until fall with how things are progressing. If it sells quick, we will be on our way! Still toying with the idea of renting until it sells but that plan really isn't the best for the area. Can't wait to get into some bigger trees out that way! Have a great day!
Absolutely! Properly structure pruning young trees is less invasive and sets the tree up for minimal pruning in its future. Young trees grow vigorously with a goal of growing. They have lots of energy to use towards growth and healing. Once mature, a tree has more of a mentality of just sustaining itself.
Yep, Dr. Gilman all the way! My main focus with my small business is a strong focus on structural pruning first, and aesthetics second if the tree allows it at that time.
Eduardo Sida Im very glad this video is able to give you a visual/practical explanation. Central leader dominance is soooo important for tree strength, but it proves difficult to explain this to customers when their trees are young. Watch and learn as much as you can from Gilman because he is the man! Thank you very much again for enjoying this video!
Thinking about how well Japanese maples take to air layering would definitely suggest this maple would have potential. Unfortunately our climate does not support a long enough growing season to produce successful air layering (in theory). I may need to reach out to a couple local nurseries and see if they have any trees they would be willing to experiment with 🤔.
Kevin, your comment about thinning out a tree is only a sales pitch is a really UNPROFESSIONAL, IGNORANT, INCORRECT comment that you should retract/correct. Maples especially are MUCH HEALTHIER and even MORE BEAUTIFUL when they look AIRY. You can see the TRUNK STRUCTURE and SHAPE much better and the LEAVES LOOK MORE BEAUTIFUL with light/sun coming through. Surprised you made such a rookie comment!!!!!
Really? Making a tree LOOK NICE has absolutely nothing to do with the health of a tree. "Shaping" trees is absolutely unnecessary so sounds like your understanding of proper arboraculture is far from sound. Maples are also extremely sensitive to sun scald, especially in my area, so if you think you need to be able to see the trunk also means the sun can. Now let that one resinate! Nothing about this video is unprofessional, besides your comment, and the only ones offended will be the ones who sell garbage work and dont want the public to grasp that fact. Look into Ed Gilman and his work, then come back with an apology. Good day.
Too many towns have been sold that ALL TREES need to be trimmed . Such a sham. I have seen beautiful healthy trees get “trimmed wrong and die within a year”. To many businesses talking about cutting and trimming but no one talks about planting. When i moved into my town, it was a a beautiful tree town, shade everywhere. Then Com Ed the tree butchers started and then companies convinced our town we needed every tree on the easement trimmed. And now our canopy is mostly gone . Nobody replants and companies don’t promote it. Sooo sad .
As Ed Gilman, from the University of Florida, would say, "Structural pruning is a better way of thinning a tree". Also, I've never heard an Arborist use the term "Look Airy" on a pruning prescription.
That's about as IGNORANT, UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED comment as there ever was! EVERY SINGLE TREE NEEDS THIS PERIODICALLY, ESPECIALLY MAPLES! What a DUMB comment!
First off, there is nothing in the title that says “teaching” so your comment seems pretty useless. With that said, anyone who is interested in learning how to prune an ABM can watch this and learn something from it.
I would really LOVE to see how the tree looks now! I have this same tree and I never knew this was something I would need to do. I planted one with my son a few years ago and it’s taken forever to grow. I use fertilizer in the Spring and it’s been watered daily and pruned when needed, and I was unaware of this care it would need. Thank you for posting this educational video and if you could please share a new video of how it grew better because of what you did, that would be amazing!
Daily watering causes weak, shallow root system. The ground needs to dry out slightly, then the tree instinctively grows deeper roots in search of ground water. This causes a larger, stronger root system to develop which then leads to a healthier, stronger tree. Or most plants in general.
Happy to see a fellow tree surgeon using a hand saw for basic pruning so many guys use Stihl 201t or other top handles for little stuff when it is overkill We use handsaws more than anything else while pruning small trees as well as minor cuts on large trees. Great work Sir! subscribed
Rufus LC Cher's man! Handsaws are certainly under-tilized in our industry. I use them as much as possible and even find myself using the to finish larger pruning cuts, keeps me away from my onehanding habit.
This is an amazing video. The real-time decisions on reducing and removing. The comment on thinning vs structural pruning. The three cut method in practice. Wow. As an armchair/backyard arborist I really enjoyed watching and learned a lot.
I really hope you can do more of these structural pruning videos. If possible, maybe an Ulmus or Zelkova? They have unruly whips with no leader and its hard to develop a leader on a young tree.
Keep up the awesome work.
wow, I really appreciate that and glad you were able to learn from it (that's the goal)!
I have been lacking on making videos lately but do plan on getting back to it soon. I know what you mean about Ulmus. Our main variety here is Ulmus pumila which grows like a weed and it's hard to find one with potential to be a "choice" tree. Zelkova are few and far between here, they don't get very big, and borers love them! Very difficult to structure prune unless you catch them very young. If the opportunity arises to work on either of these two I'll do my best to film it. Thanks again!
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 I'd love more structural pruning videos on any species. (Of course, only if you have the time to film/edit.) I think it will be a great channel. Subscribed and thank you!
Had to remove a 50 year old silver maple from my front yard. It was so sad but due to the trunk split that they have I could risk it weakening g and falling on my house. I literally cried after it was done. We have planted an October Glory Maple in its place. A much smaller maple.
It’s turning out to be a wonderful tree.
I know the feeling of losing an old tree, especially if it was older then oneself. I’m glad you planted a new one in its place. I hope your tree still a beautiful one. ❤
I bought this exact maple omg grew so fast I love it!!,, now I have an awesome shade in my back patio.
This video reminds me of my neighbor's old red maple tree. It was 60 ft tall, but it was brought down by the severe derecho storm last August (Iowa). The tree was beautiful overall, but its core structure was a dense mess, including a lot of vertical branches competing with the leader. It really could have used some pruning earlier in its life.
Great video. Just bought this tree. Good info for me thanks.
I really enjoy these man, please keep it up!
Jerrad Nelson
Thanks man. I will as the opportunities show themselves. Still trying to think of ways to not making pruning videos boring
This looks like so much fun
Is it possible to top off a trees crown without it dying. My trees are way too tall.
you should show what this tree looks like today.
I have a maple tree that’s a little bigger than this one and it has the exact same issues. Lots of branches crossing each other and it’s way too thick.
Hi sir why my maple autumn blaze is not turning red yet it’s been 3 years now since i planted it. Thanks.
My autumn blaze maple is just a few years old and I planted it in January. I had a tree trimmer come to prune my fruit trees and he cut off about two feet off my maple’s central leader. Is this ever a good idea? It was shaped beautifully. I feel like now it will create a Y, am I wrong,?
Beautiful, nice, love your video.
Did you ever come back and work on this tree again?
Great video and explanation. Appreciate the commentary before making the cuts and also the before and after. Curious to know if you climbed up to get your rope in the tree or were you able to set it from the ground. Thank you 👍🏻
Did you throw a throw line through all of that congestion? Awesome walkthrough video. Good work.
How old is this tree? I just purchased one and will be planting it here soon.
My guess on this guy is around 15 years old. Make sure to do any vigorous pruning while the tree is quite young to help it establish a strong central leader. That will encourage the tree to have a long and healthy life. First order for you will be to make sure you plant it correctly. Good luck with your tree!
Great video! Please keep uploading new videos.
I planted a red maple in my front yard, my husband likes it but Im scare now. It seems they grow really tall.😢
This is obviously pruning during the fall season...... is this possible for a maple ?
That is a small chainsaw.NICE work!
Will installing a root barrier around the tree about 4x4 keep the size of this tree on the smaller side?
No, it wouldnt as a tree needs to grow to survive. Both roots and canopy. In theory you could take sort of a bonsai approach and root prune every couple years as well as a canopy reduction every few years. Would be extremely labor intensive as well as stressful for the tree. You would be better off planting a tree shorter growth characteristics.
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 In theory I can just grow a tree in a pot, and put the pot in the ground? That would limit it's size as the size of the pot would limit the size of the tree.
Maybe just cut a hole in the bottom of the pot for better drainage.
@@jzizzles7799 You would still have to root prune to allow space for roots to grow. If the roots can't continue to grow, the tree will die. When you root prune you will then have to reduce the canopy because root loss will lead to canopy desiccation to balance its root/canopy ratio. It will be an ongoing maintenance, but doable to an extent.
Why don't you just buy a smaller sized tree or buy a bonsai tree instead of stressing out the trees that are meant to grow big? Lol.
Kevin - thanks for this great demo! It has been so helpful as my tree is very similar to the one you are working on here. Question, if you would be so kind as to respond - how many years do you think it would take for the tree to fill in after removing the competing leader like your doing? The weak-point for my tree is lower on the tree. There are few inner branches growing from the weak point...or crotch on up that would make the tree look balanced after the competing leader is removed.
Very glad you enjoyed the video. As for your question, it will depend on a few factors. First, how your growing conditions are for your particular tree (soil, climate, exposure, etc.). For an example, these Autumn blaze do pretty good in most of Boise, but start to stress the more West you go and you can really see the difference in how they react after pruning. A young healthy tree like the one in this video will fill in quite nicely and potentially need another dose, which will be minimal, in 5-7 years from time of pruning. It will also depend on how much pruning is initially needed, as well as the size of cuts that need to be made. It's hard to give "exacts" as every situation is different. I hope this helps and/or answers your question a little.
What species are the pine trees next to your maple? They look like Pinus eldarica.
Some random GUY Pinus nigra, commonly known as Austrian pine. Those and Pinus sylvestris are the main pine trees around Boise with the odd placed ponderosa.
Hi, this leaf I have required in India. How shall I get?
My mother planted one of these when I was a child now that it's a good 60 70 feet tall its terrifying when the wind is up. Its wood is so weak but no one want to listen ssoo when it lands on my fathers lap in a downslope event I hope he makes it out alive. It has some of the weakest wood I've seen I can literall grab a tiny branch and gently pull and bring down a huge chunk of the tree
Hi Kevin, does this tree have those “helicopter” seed keys in the spring? Thanks
R B yes this is one of quite a few that have the "helicopter" seeds (Samaras).
Are the roots invasive? Can they be planted close to a house ?
They can be depending on how close you are thinking of planting. I have seen them lift up concrete walkways, but not so much a home foundation. Close enough and I'm sure it could though. I would recommend if planting close to a house to install some root barrier along your areas of concern to eliminate the potential before it becomes a problem.
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 twenty feet from the house to close?
20 feet should be fine. Just make sure to water deep so the roots are encouraged to grow down and not along the surface (same goes for all trees).
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 thank you
Great work on this one! Side note, excellent responses to some of comments 👍🏼 the armchair arborist keeps very busy on TH-cam while the rest of us are out making it happen. Sounds like you're pretty close to BOI
Thanks man! I try to keep responses as helpful and educational as possible. A lot of times there are factual responses that will end the "trolls" desire to win an argument. It can get quite difficult sometimes though.
By BOI I'm guessing you mean Boise? I thought you sounded familiar and sure enough you and I had messaged on the buzz about a potential move. So yes, in Boise. Let me know how those plans come along because work is picking up nicely and we need as much legitimate arborists in the area as possible!
@@kevinvanbrunt7498 yea BOI, the airport! I am that guy! We are just getting the house prepped for sale. I'd love to make it this spring but I don't think it will be until fall with how things are progressing. If it sells quick, we will be on our way! Still toying with the idea of renting until it sells but that plan really isn't the best for the area. Can't wait to get into some bigger trees out that way! Have a great day!
Can you prune some that are smaller
Absolutely! Properly structure pruning young trees is less invasive and sets the tree up for minimal pruning in its future. Young trees grow vigorously with a goal of growing. They have lots of energy to use towards growth and healing. Once mature, a tree has more of a mentality of just sustaining itself.
Where did you learn to prune like this? Dr. Gilman?
Yep, Dr. Gilman all the way! My main focus with my small business is a strong focus on structural pruning first, and aesthetics second if the tree allows it at that time.
Kevin Van Brunt awesome! I just watched a few of his videos and youre pruning decisions helped me see what he lectures on. I really enjoyed it!
Eduardo Sida Im very glad this video is able to give you a visual/practical explanation. Central leader dominance is soooo important for tree strength, but it proves difficult to explain this to customers when their trees are young. Watch and learn as much as you can from Gilman because he is the man! Thank you very much again for enjoying this video!
WOW how height is that tree?
It's only about 20-25 feet to the very top
Where are you located
Some random GUY Boise, Idaho
You could have aírlayer those branches. Just a suggestion 😀
Thinking about how well Japanese maples take to air layering would definitely suggest this maple would have potential. Unfortunately our climate does not support a long enough growing season to produce successful air layering (in theory). I may need to reach out to a couple local nurseries and see if they have any trees they would be willing to experiment with 🤔.
Mantap👍👍👍
Hi uncle Kevin!!!!
Hi creep. Get to your school work!
Got so dizzy, but fell out of the tree....
I guess I had better hire a professional to prune my trees.
Vg
Kevin, your comment about thinning out a tree is only a sales pitch is a really UNPROFESSIONAL, IGNORANT, INCORRECT comment that you should retract/correct. Maples especially are MUCH HEALTHIER and even MORE BEAUTIFUL when they look AIRY. You can see the TRUNK STRUCTURE and SHAPE much better and the LEAVES LOOK MORE BEAUTIFUL with light/sun coming through. Surprised you made such a rookie comment!!!!!
Really? Making a tree LOOK NICE has absolutely nothing to do with the health of a tree. "Shaping" trees is absolutely unnecessary so sounds like your understanding of proper arboraculture is far from sound. Maples are also extremely sensitive to sun scald, especially in my area, so if you think you need to be able to see the trunk also means the sun can. Now let that one resinate! Nothing about this video is unprofessional, besides your comment, and the only ones offended will be the ones who sell garbage work and dont want the public to grasp that fact. Look into Ed Gilman and his work, then come back with an apology. Good day.
Too many towns have been sold that ALL TREES need to be trimmed . Such a sham. I have seen beautiful healthy trees get “trimmed wrong and die within a year”. To many businesses talking about cutting and trimming but no one talks about planting. When i moved into my town, it was a a beautiful tree town, shade everywhere. Then Com Ed the tree butchers started and then companies convinced our town we needed every tree on the easement trimmed. And now our canopy is mostly gone . Nobody replants and companies don’t promote it. Sooo sad .
As Ed Gilman, from the University of Florida, would say, "Structural pruning is a better way of thinning a tree". Also, I've never heard an Arborist use the term "Look Airy" on a pruning prescription.
The bottom line is don’t buy hybrid trees and you won’t have these problems.
That's about as IGNORANT, UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED comment as there ever was! EVERY SINGLE TREE NEEDS THIS PERIODICALLY, ESPECIALLY MAPLES! What a DUMB comment!
You're just cutting, not teaching
First off, there is nothing in the title that says “teaching” so your comment seems pretty useless. With that said, anyone who is interested in learning how to prune an ABM can watch this and learn something from it.
@@kevinvanbrunt7498i learned a bunch thanks for all the information. Going to be removing some branches in my maple soon.