I loved my ESPN when I was in high school. I'd wake up, shower, pour a bowl of cereal, and turn on ESPN. It didn't matter when I got the TV on, I would have one hour to watch a full episode for that day since it looped for several hours. Every game, and every major sport had the highlights from the night before. Eisen, Olbernmann, Patrick, Mayne, Kolber, and Scott (RIP) were the men and women who started my day. Now it's nothing but hot takes and starting with 20 minutes of Lebron/Durant/Brady highlights and analysis. MLB season winding down with close races for the wild card? Too bad, there are NBA pre-season rumors about Lebron's ankle or his finger or his hurt feelings. YT creators are better, faster, more informed, accurate, and connected to the community. I'd much rather support this content over any cooperate nonsense that is pumped out these days..
You are 100 percent right. In the 90s, I didn't know a single kid that didn't watch sportscaster daily.. don't forget craig Kilbourne. ESPN stopped being about sports and became a male version of the view
Not to mention, regardless of your politic views, that Keith Olbermann has taken a dive off the deep end. Even if that setup were back, I don't think anyone would want to hear his hot air being spewed. Even if he were on the opposite end. Just announce the scores and highlights please. ESPN needs to drop the 'celebrity culture' and politics.
Big same. That iconic intro, the clever puns and one-liners from infectious and engaging personalities, those hilarious mascot commercials, Stuart Scott doing awesome Stuart Scott shit. I miss the hell out of it. Hell, even in the early 2000's, PTI and Around the Horn made Skip and Shannon look like Shakespeare by comparison.
I've said the same thing so many times. I'm not a big sports fan but I'm huge FPV fan, amd one of the biggest reasons why is his vocabulary. He makes them sound so natural, like he says them often in his everyday speech.
Let ESPN fade away back to being ABC's Wide World of Sports. Once a week on Saturdays. I loved that show, watched it every week for years. Always thought it was the original inspiration for ESPN. I think WWS went off the air at the same time ESPN started.
Pat Mcafee's move to ESPN very much feels like a betrayal on everything the show was built on in the first place. It only started because he couldn't get into the closed door boys club that sports broadcasting is and did all of this despite the networks thinking he wasn't cut out for it. Joining them now feels like he's joining the people he was trying to destroy. From what I've seen, a lot of the current audience feels this way and a lot of his potential new viewers on ESPN are very vocal about their distaste for his show. I guess we'll see how it plays out but at this point it doesn't give me hope.
Once he announced his girl was pregnant he changed the show and everything he's a sellout but I can't blame him he's a family man now he was single or just dating his wife when he first started and had ambitions of changing the game. But he doesn't care anymore his show can bust (and it will) but he will be successful for his family no matter what
Thank you! Someone who gets it. I'm happy him and the boys got the bag Buuuuttttt....the reason I watched was the home grown feel of the show. I don't care how much you say it won't change, Pat hasn't had the bs that most of us blue collar folks have. It was 100% his, now it belongs to Disney
I remember when ESPN was like the only place to get sports content, but now they have so much competition. The only thing they have going for them is they are like default included in most basic cable packages but even that's changing
@@billblaski9523 yeah now every single media company has a sports channel and there is a pile of RSNs, And lots of those are in trouble now too. Especially with individual leagues starting to offer their own streaming packages.
Chris Rose made this awkward step from network TV to online media with Jomboy, and it has only made him more likable and his content better. You are right, you are the competition and you are doing an excellent job. Keep it up!
I remember as a teenager the mid to late 90s ESPN was me and my brother would have often have on in the background whether it was ESPN or ESPNews. There was sense of a humor to it all and it focused on sports highlights and news. The early hot take shows were fun as well. And then something just sucked all the fun out of it.
I relate more to people like you, Tree, Kollman, Perna, Flemlo, Grossi because you are fans. Hell the last two years I have watched Tom stream and had the Super Bowl tv feed on mute. Times are changing and people like yourself have more power and influence than you think.
I just never watched ESPN very much. But thank you for explaining what all's going on, Five! From the admittedly very little I know about the situation, I think it has larger implications for cable TV in general.
I’d much rather get my sport discussions from you and Perna over Stephen A. any day. The only time I watch ESPN is for live sports. A far cry from when I was in high school and college and always watched Sportscenter.
PMS numbers are down since the move to ESPN was announced. Prior to the news, PMS was receiving 360 - 430k views per stream. After the announcement, the numbers are anywhere from 210 - 260k. I'm loving it.
It’s really not all that shocking or surprising at all. When you see how espn has been handling their business the last decade or so now, it’s really common sense as to why they are failing.
The only things that are keeping ESPN afloat are live sports and hot takes. Literally, it's a shell of Its former self now. The golden ages are LONG gone.
As far as I know, the FCC has no power to regulate cable content. Just so happens most basic cable networks still use basically the same standards and practices as the big OTA networks.
It’s not just disruptive technology. ESPN got too homogenous. Every show was built on the “black barber shop” format. All the shows were contentious. Their programming was 24 hours of arguing. They hired illiterate ex players. They forced gender diversity without regard to quality. They narrowed focus in each sport to a handful of marquis teams and superstar players. So it’s really a failure on the production and programming side. But just like in every business, when mistakes are made at the senior level, it’s the junior people who pay the price.
I can say with HIGH certainty that I've watched more minutes of FivePoints Vids, LateKick, DepressedGinger and FlemLo in the last year that I have ESPN talking heads shows. I ONLY watch live games and then turn to TH-cam for highlights and breakdows after. You guys produce a far superiour product than the league approved jabber jocks.
Overpaying rights fees to the NBA, NFL, etc, didn’t help. Tom Grossi’s 30 In 30 stadium tour for St. Jude was more real and compelling than any hot take from Screaming A. Smith. It’s no wonder that the organic, DIY content of 5PV, Grossi, Flemlo, etc, is better than the Embrace Debate shows. Related note: I’m (really) old enough to remember when ESPN did sports 24 hours a day, when they transitioned from doing a few hours in the evening from when they started.
A guy in his basement has nothing to do with ESPN's issues. Pay McAfee actually playee in the NFl. He has the connections to get Super Bowl MVPs, Hall of Famers, and has actual knowledge about which he speaks. If sports media was an actual league team, TH-camrs in their basement would be the guy collecting jock straps aftee practice.
ESPN is fucked, it really is, if you want to watch football news, NFL Network, want a certain team, Sunday Ticket, but that’s for the boomers who still have cable, everyone else can watch their games on Peacock, Amazon, TH-cam TV etc.
There's no real way to measure how many eyes are on ESPN content. Take into account the number of car dealerships, barbershops, etc. where the TV is on ESPN but absolutely no one is paying attention.
ESPN had a bunch of personalities i just couldn't stand. Over the years I've been watching less and less sports but find myself watching guys like you.
ESPN was most of what I had on from middle school into my early 30s. Like….all the time. But some years ago, I don’t remember exactly when, I smelled the political leanings coming, and I’ve never turned it on since. I’ve actually been super curious how much this same aspect effected them. Anyway. They’ll probably be okay, for sure, but I foresee an even bigger downfall before all is said and done.
I’m really glad you pointed out the amount of channels ESPN has, and because of that such a need for content. Therein lies the problem, having a sports broadcasting network but needing to fill so many different networks with content for time with or without sports ongoing. It’s the type of thing where businesses want to expand but they go too many steps too far. Outside ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU, is there a need for so many of their networks?
I loved seeing their hypocrisy being shown every night. They had huge interviews about women's sports and how they were lagging behind men's sports salaries. And the next day, instead of having the women's NCAA tournament showing, they had beanbag toss. ESPN is going down! Because of Disney! And I will enjoy seeing them burn!
@@jesuszamora6949actually this is way before Trump. During the second term of Obama's administration there were signs of ESPN doing politics way too much and letting certain black reporters like jemele Hill letting loose on air that turned a lot of the ESPN fanbase off. Also ESPN was listening to too much of social and social media was saying why are you old white guy still on the air.
Slight addendum: ESPN *might* be in some trouble. Not because of anything they're doing, or anything you and the rest of Clickbait are doing, but because Disney is utterly *hemorrhaging* money right now, and who knows what might be on the chopping block or up for sale soon. I'll spare the rant on how bad their output has been, but suffice to say, Lucasfilm, Pixar AND the MCU are all steadily producing more flops than successes anymore, which is part of the cause of this last batch of layoffs across the company. ESPN's on-air personality were just some of the better-known names, but Disney as a whole cut a LOT of jobs.
4:51 Here's a true quote from Benjamin Franklin : “In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.” Especially dedicated to ESPN. And yep, it's all Pat Mc Afee's fault !
7:20 is the implication those fired don’t have other gigs? Bc a majority of them do. Atleast I’d imagine the television personalities highlighted. Max kellerman for example
Kellerman will be fine, most likely, as he's mostly bearable. Maybe he'll be able to talk boxing again. I wish ESPN had fired Stephen A. Shatner instead.
I don't have the same irrational hatred for Disney some people do, though that's mostly because I'm apolitical. That said, I'm surprised Disney hasn't spun off ESPN already. It seems like such a massive drain on resources.
I watch you and FlemLo and Jomboy and a few others way more than I ever tune into ESPN shows. I pretty much only watch live sports and 30 for 30s on the old network.
ESPN: How do we get more people watching again? "How bout showing games people actually WANT to watch instead of crap like bowling, corn hole, and that other nonsense?" ESPN: But that costs money!
You say that, but they need SOMETHING other than hot take shows when the major sports aren't playing. I'd personally rather see "nonsense" like the niche sports than hours and hours of talking heads yelling at one another.
I think I can remember maybe between 2008 and 2012 ESPN was hiring a lot of people because they had a big budget and was making lots of money and there was even talks about them buying the rights to broadcast the Olympic Games because the streaming service just started and now look at them now falling down from Grace very hard. Exactly where did it all go wrong for espn?
I think another part of ESPN that goes unnoticed is how they alienate sports fans. Not a fan of football or basketball? ESPN and their sports fans will make you feel small and insignificant
This is the same pattern of any large corporation. At some point, cutting in certain sectors will raise the rate of profit. It's inevitable and it hurts people who worked hard to help said company to reach its heights. This is why unions are important.
I just realized something I didn’t realize … I have the ESPN app and just watched Wimbledon but as far as highlights of anything I missed I go here. Hmmmm. You’re right. Thanks!
I watch your channel and the others you mentioned (Flemlo, KTO and Perna) because you guys all just make better content - the writing is better, the stories and topics are presented and discussed in a more entertaining and mature way - I dont have to listen to people yelling opinions about sports like a madman confined to Broadmoore (ok maybe Perna sometimes but he gets a "beard pass") - Instead I get to listen to guys who are passionate and care about what they are doing and old media just cant do that - ESPN IS cooked except for live sports and thats a good thing
FCC doesn't actually have any jurisdiction over cable channels such as ESPN. the reason you never hear hard swearing on cable TV is solely out of fears that it would scare off advertisers
Honestly the biggest surprise to me was shaking up their radio side of things again. They pushed Bart and Scott to ESPN NYC and finally gave Jason Fitz a mid day show at the start of the year and Key, Jay and Max was one of their most listened to shows. Meanwhile Greenie is never actually on his own show. It’s usually Canty and/or Carlin. Then they have a rotating cast of people hosting Canty and Carlin for the drive home show.
What it means that Major League Sports is going to contract. As they have no more cities to fleece for stadiums, now they crossed the Rubicon with Las Vegas, they face less revenue for 'television rights'.
The main question that wasn't asked was, who still watches ESPN? Last time I watched it was when I was on a treadmill at a commercial gym five years ago.
Competition is good for everyone in the media landscape, this is just the latest point in that wave. There's space for everyone to succeed and that won't ever change.
One other reason behind ESPN's decline is their self-inflicted wounds caused by 'dropping the ball' (pun intended) on major stories like the Bishop Sycamore H.S. "football team" scam. The sports TH-camrs picked up the pieces after ESPN's news department missed the chance to break what turned out to be a major story.
That's really wasn't a good look (I'm white FWIW). If the NBA media seemed to be desperately searching around for any white guy to hand the MVP award to every year he'd have a point. Jokic though has been putting up historically great seasons so it's hard to argue he shouldn't have been at the top of the discussion.
#PatMcAfee is more than relevant than Paul Finebaum! Pat McAfee could kick Paul Finebaum’s a**! #PaulFInebaum is incapable of kicking anyone’s a**, #TheManUpstairs WON’T LET HIM!
How can you do an ESPN layoff video without mentioning the actual reason for them? ESPN is owned by Disney. Disney initiated these layoffs. This is what happens when dozens of companies are owned by one giant company.
Ohhhh that's a separate video on its own "the soon-to-be downfall of Disney". You've Disney does not get his act together it's going to do a massive sale off
The problem with ESPN is they’ve adopted the same business model as the CNNs and Fox News’ of MSM and as a sports fan, I’ll admit that I find debate shows so frigging annoying for the following reasons. 1. The points they argue are worthless. 2. No one really changes their opinion despite if facts are being unveiled. The commentators never change their view even when their view is clearly proven wrong. 3. Most of these debate shows argue the same damn topics over-and-over-and-over-and-over. It’s just like, “geez, how many times can you debate that LeBron is the GOAT or Dak Prescott is overrated…or Tom Brady is the best QB of all-time.” It just gets so damn old. When I was in college, I watched ESPN a ton, but now, I actually prefer watching TH-cam sports content like yourself, Tom Grossi, Brandon Perna, UrinatingTree, FlemLo Raps, Mikerophone, JaguarGator, etc. For one, you guys make SEVERAL different types of videos, some interesting fact-based looks to goofy comedy bits, to streaming reaction to sports news. The best part…you guys are actually authentic with your takes. It doesn’t feel like two hollow sports commentators who are blindly arguing…you guys (Clickbait Sports) actually seem like genuine friends that would get beers together at your local tavern if you all didn’t live in different parts of the country and the most important part of all…you all RESPECT each other’s views, even if you don’t agree. Now granted, there are some personalities that left ESPN and put together pretty good careers for themselves…like Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless (unfortunately) and Shannon Sharpe. However, these guys made it big because they actually had (somewhat) likable personalities (aside from Skip…people just watch him because they can’t wait to see what stupid thing he argues next). A lot of the people who were released from ESPN I don’t think could make it on their own. I think a few could…Suzy Kolber seems like someone if she did start her own show/channel, she might be able to make it work…but nobody else aside from Keyshawn gives me the impression they could make it big on their own. Stephen A. Smith actually had a pretty good take on this. He stated that the direction that ESPN is heading is they are getting rid of personalities and acquiring “products.” He even stated that he wants to turn himself into a product (which I’d argue he’s probably one of the few personalities at ESPN that could). Pat McAfee (as goofy as he is) is not a dumb guy. He knows ESPN needs his show more than he needs ESPN. If the Pat McAfee Show fails on ESPN due to the crude behavior of its talent, they know they can go back to TH-cam and bounce back. The fact of the matter is due to streaming, independent content creators have far more power now and aren’t beholden to a large network to regulate their content. If nothing else, it’s actually BETTER to be a smaller indie content creator because YOU control your channel and your content. You don’t have directors and producers telling you how to do your job.
I stopped watching ESPN right around the time Stewart Scott passed away. They basically turnned the prime time Sports Center into the SVP show, more about him then the sports they were supposed to be presenting.
I think I can speak for all of us when I say thank you, old man, for being a part of ESPN's setbacks.
I was going to like but wanted to keep it at 69
@@jak_w515Noice!
Honestly, I'd rather watch rebroadcasts of clasic games than "hot take" shows.
I loved my ESPN when I was in high school. I'd wake up, shower, pour a bowl of cereal, and turn on ESPN. It didn't matter when I got the TV on, I would have one hour to watch a full episode for that day since it looped for several hours. Every game, and every major sport had the highlights from the night before. Eisen, Olbernmann, Patrick, Mayne, Kolber, and Scott (RIP) were the men and women who started my day.
Now it's nothing but hot takes and starting with 20 minutes of Lebron/Durant/Brady highlights and analysis. MLB season winding down with close races for the wild card? Too bad, there are NBA pre-season rumors about Lebron's ankle or his finger or his hurt feelings.
YT creators are better, faster, more informed, accurate, and connected to the community. I'd much rather support this content over any cooperate nonsense that is pumped out these days..
You are 100 percent right. In the 90s, I didn't know a single kid that didn't watch sportscaster daily.. don't forget craig Kilbourne. ESPN stopped being about sports and became a male version of the view
Not to mention, regardless of your politic views, that Keith Olbermann has taken a dive off the deep end. Even if that setup were back, I don't think anyone would want to hear his hot air being spewed. Even if he were on the opposite end. Just announce the scores and highlights please. ESPN needs to drop the 'celebrity culture' and politics.
Wow! Well said! Totally agree.
Big same. That iconic intro, the clever puns and one-liners from infectious and engaging personalities, those hilarious mascot commercials, Stuart Scott doing awesome Stuart Scott shit. I miss the hell out of it.
Hell, even in the early 2000's, PTI and Around the Horn made Skip and Shannon look like Shakespeare by comparison.
It went downhill for me when Chris Berman left the pre/post game show.
Thankfully I stopped watching ESPN a few years ago. ESPN was waaay better back when I was a kid in the 2000s.
Only cus it was the only way to get sports news and content
Five Points pulling out the thesaurus with "atrophic." Well done, sir.
Five Points using it doesn’t surprise me. Now if Tree used it I would be shocked.
I've said the same thing so many times. I'm not a big sports fan but I'm huge FPV fan, amd one of the biggest reasons why is his vocabulary. He makes them sound so natural, like he says them often in his everyday speech.
Very articulate guy.
As a former English teacher, I approve this message.
@@Chr1s520What's your favorite book Mr. English Teacher?
ESPN has been “in trouble” for over a decade now.
That was/is ALL ON #PaulFInebaum! 😠😤😡
Let ESPN fade away back to being ABC's Wide World of Sports. Once a week on Saturdays. I loved that show, watched it every week for years. Always thought it was the original inspiration for ESPN. I think WWS went off the air at the same time ESPN started.
Firstly, that'll never happen. Secondly, "Wide World of Sports" was cancelled back in 1998 but the title continued to be used until 2006.
George Michael's Sports Machine would be a more accurate precursor...
My grandad has stacks of VHS tapes of that show.
Bring back abc sports
Honestly independent creators on TH-cam is the future of sports news content. They stick to the point and don’t make dumbass takes every five minutes
Pat Mcafee took the big network bag but there will be someone out there to take the spot he’s leaving behind.
Pat Mcafee's move to ESPN very much feels like a betrayal on everything the show was built on in the first place. It only started because he couldn't get into the closed door boys club that sports broadcasting is and did all of this despite the networks thinking he wasn't cut out for it. Joining them now feels like he's joining the people he was trying to destroy. From what I've seen, a lot of the current audience feels this way and a lot of his potential new viewers on ESPN are very vocal about their distaste for his show. I guess we'll see how it plays out but at this point it doesn't give me hope.
Once he announced his girl was pregnant he changed the show and everything he's a sellout but I can't blame him he's a family man now he was single or just dating his wife when he first started and had ambitions of changing the game. But he doesn't care anymore his show can bust (and it will) but he will be successful for his family no matter what
Thank you! Someone who gets it. I'm happy him and the boys got the bag
Buuuuttttt....the reason I watched was the home grown feel of the show. I don't care how much you say it won't change, Pat hasn't had the bs that most of us blue collar folks have. It was 100% his, now it belongs to Disney
Pat showed the world that everyone has a price. People will sellout if the dollar is big enough
It’s going to be interesting to see play out because right now it seems like the perfect show to please no one
@@warlordofbritannia that's exactly what I was trying to say at the end, great way to put it
ESPN has been on a massive downfall, I still like their Monday Night Football presentations but that’s about it honestly.
Pretty much their nba media is cooked
I remember when ESPN was like the only place to get sports content, but now they have so much competition. The only thing they have going for them is they are like default included in most basic cable packages but even that's changing
@@billblaski9523 yeah now every single media company has a sports channel and there is a pile of RSNs, And lots of those are in trouble now too. Especially with individual leagues starting to offer their own streaming packages.
College football is pretty much the only thing I watch them for these days.
SVP is good but you're right there isn't much they got going for them
Chris Rose made this awkward step from network TV to online media with Jomboy, and it has only made him more likable and his content better.
You are right, you are the competition and you are doing an excellent job. Keep it up!
I remember as a teenager the mid to late 90s ESPN was me and my brother would have often have on in the background whether it was ESPN or ESPNews. There was sense of a humor to it all and it focused on sports highlights and news. The early hot take shows were fun as well. And then something just sucked all the fun out of it.
Politics…the answer is politics sucked the fun out of it
@@jmebig3044definitely. It's done the same to most everything else.
I relate more to people like you, Tree, Kollman, Perna, Flemlo, Grossi because you are fans. Hell the last two years I have watched Tom stream and had the Super Bowl tv feed on mute. Times are changing and people like yourself have more power and influence than you think.
I just never watched ESPN very much. But thank you for explaining what all's going on, Five! From the admittedly very little I know about the situation, I think it has larger implications for cable TV in general.
I’d much rather get my sport discussions from you and Perna over Stephen A. any day. The only time I watch ESPN is for live sports. A far cry from when I was in high school and college and always watched Sportscenter.
I respect the sports opinion of my lawn more than that of Stephen A.
Keep up the hustle Five Points - I haven't watched ESPN in years.
The crazy thing is ESPN's management still has no idea why people don't watch ESPN anymore.
PMS numbers are down since the move to ESPN was announced. Prior to the news, PMS was receiving 360 - 430k views per stream. After the announcement, the numbers are anywhere from 210 - 260k. I'm loving it.
it used to be grungy and anti "The Man".
It’s not football season. The true test will be in August and September when their sport has more content worthy stuff.
Are people even consuming much NFL content between the end of the draft and the start of training camp?
Honestly I’m not all that surprised Kendrick Perkins still has a job there.
This is what happens when your politics is your number one concern instead of sports
When they put that hill lady on sportscenter I was out
Yeah, why watch ESPN when I can watch Grossi, Tree, Scooter, Perna, and you? XD
It’s really not all that shocking or surprising at all. When you see how espn has been handling their business the last decade or so now, it’s really common sense as to why they are failing.
Plot twist, people like Clickbait Sports placed employees at ESPN out of a job...
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The only things that are keeping ESPN afloat are live sports and hot takes. Literally, it's a shell of Its former self now. The golden ages are LONG gone.
And the fact that they are default included in most basic cable TV packages
IMO the constant hot takes are the reason why nobody watches ESPN anymore. For the last 10 or 20 years ESPN has been a sports CNN/Fox news knock off.
ESPN around 2007-2009 times had to of been it’s entertainment peak
After 2010 they went to shits
As far as I know, the FCC has no power to regulate cable content. Just so happens most basic cable networks still use basically the same standards and practices as the big OTA networks.
Shoutout Flemlo!!! CUE THE WAYNE
It’s not just disruptive technology. ESPN got too homogenous. Every show was built on the “black barber shop” format. All the shows were contentious. Their programming was 24 hours of arguing. They hired illiterate ex players. They forced gender diversity without regard to quality. They narrowed focus in each sport to a handful of marquis teams and superstar players. So it’s really a failure on the production and programming side. But just like in every business, when mistakes are made at the senior level, it’s the junior people who pay the price.
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I can say with HIGH certainty that I've watched more minutes of FivePoints Vids, LateKick, DepressedGinger and FlemLo in the last year that I have ESPN talking heads shows. I ONLY watch live games and then turn to TH-cam for highlights and breakdows after. You guys produce a far superiour product than the league approved jabber jocks.
Overpaying rights fees to the NBA, NFL, etc, didn’t help. Tom Grossi’s 30 In 30 stadium tour for St. Jude was more real and compelling than any hot take from Screaming A. Smith. It’s no wonder that the organic, DIY content of 5PV, Grossi, Flemlo, etc, is better than the Embrace Debate shows. Related note: I’m (really) old enough to remember when ESPN did sports 24 hours a day, when they transitioned from doing a few hours in the evening from when they started.
A guy in his basement has nothing to do with ESPN's issues. Pay McAfee actually playee in the NFl. He has the connections to get Super Bowl MVPs, Hall of Famers, and has actual knowledge about which he speaks.
If sports media was an actual league team, TH-camrs in their basement would be the guy collecting jock straps aftee practice.
Agreed. But he’s a massive tool. I can’t get over that.
ESPN became shit around 2013-2014, was a big reason why I cut cable
That was/is ALL ON #PaulFInebaum! 😠😤😡
ESPN is fucked, it really is, if you want to watch football news, NFL Network, want a certain team, Sunday Ticket, but that’s for the boomers who still have cable, everyone else can watch their games on Peacock, Amazon, TH-cam TV etc.
ESPN has a goldmine with their college football rights , but they need to step up the quality of their coverage big time
If you're broadcasting like 60 games a Saturday, not all the productions can be great.
@@ronaldwayne7092 sure they can, they work Stephen A Smith 24 hours a day, they need to do that to Rece Davis Chris Fowler, or find somebody whos down
They forgot to just point camera at field
There's no real way to measure how many eyes are on ESPN content. Take into account the number of car dealerships, barbershops, etc. where the TV is on ESPN but absolutely no one is paying attention.
Cutting to Suzy while saying "significant on-air talent" I see you FPV
ESPN had a bunch of personalities i just couldn't stand. Over the years I've been watching less and less sports but find myself watching guys like you.
ESPN was most of what I had on from middle school into my early 30s. Like….all the time. But some years ago, I don’t remember exactly when, I smelled the political leanings coming, and I’ve never turned it on since. I’ve actually been super curious how much this same aspect effected them.
Anyway. They’ll probably be okay, for sure, but I foresee an even bigger downfall before all is said and done.
What exactly are those political leanings?
…and in the wind, a faint breeze uttered a single, ghostly name: “Jomboy” 😂🎉
I’m really glad you pointed out the amount of channels ESPN has, and because of that such a need for content. Therein lies the problem, having a sports broadcasting network but needing to fill so many different networks with content for time with or without sports ongoing. It’s the type of thing where businesses want to expand but they go too many steps too far. Outside ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU, is there a need for so many of their networks?
I loved seeing their hypocrisy being shown every night. They had huge interviews about women's sports and how they were lagging behind men's sports salaries. And the next day, instead of having the women's NCAA tournament showing, they had beanbag toss.
ESPN is going down! Because of Disney! And I will enjoy seeing them burn!
Well, during college football season. I dont care who you are if you cant find a game on saturday in september you didnt want to find one😂
well, Disney as a whole is in trouble... so I'm not really surprised when it's affecting ESPN and other brands they own too
It's so weird hearing someone say "Urinating Tree" out loud. I feel like this is one of the first times I've ever heard someone actually say it.
This is the price for them paying for putting politics and agendas in their network
Lemmie guess, trumper?
@@jesuszamora6949actually this is way before Trump. During the second term of Obama's administration there were signs of ESPN doing politics way too much and letting certain black reporters like jemele Hill letting loose on air that turned a lot of the ESPN fanbase off. Also ESPN was listening to too much of social and social media was saying why are you old white guy still on the air.
Slight addendum: ESPN *might* be in some trouble. Not because of anything they're doing, or anything you and the rest of Clickbait are doing, but because Disney is utterly *hemorrhaging* money right now, and who knows what might be on the chopping block or up for sale soon. I'll spare the rant on how bad their output has been, but suffice to say, Lucasfilm, Pixar AND the MCU are all steadily producing more flops than successes anymore, which is part of the cause of this last batch of layoffs across the company. ESPN's on-air personality were just some of the better-known names, but Disney as a whole cut a LOT of jobs.
Not to mention they apparently don't give a damn about their animation department anymore. The very thing that made them famous.
4:51 Here's a true quote from Benjamin Franklin : “In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.” Especially dedicated to ESPN. And yep, it's all Pat Mc Afee's fault !
The Franklin quote made me chuckle.
"Look at me. I am the worldwide center in sports now." - FPV
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And it was actually Cam Newton who first said "For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction".
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7:20 is the implication those fired don’t have other gigs? Bc a majority of them do. Atleast I’d imagine the television personalities highlighted. Max kellerman for example
Kellerman will be fine, most likely, as he's mostly bearable. Maybe he'll be able to talk boxing again. I wish ESPN had fired Stephen A. Shatner instead.
Chris "boomer" Berman,Tom Jackson and Stuart Scott (rip) couldn't be replaced they were so entertaining
Clickbait Sports is more worthy of “The Worldwide Leader in Sports” than ESPN.
Great video, dude. You're hilarious...
So did they just keep Kendrick perkins and Malika Andrews for the views? Talk about job security.
The irony is triggering extremists makes more money than good sports analysts. I never thought I'd see the day Kellerman was gone from ESPN.
If all of Disney's properties would die overnight, I can only imagine the world being a better place
I don't have the same irrational hatred for Disney some people do, though that's mostly because I'm apolitical. That said, I'm surprised Disney hasn't spun off ESPN already. It seems like such a massive drain on resources.
Haha I loved that Benjamin Franklin comment, just making sure you’re paying attention. Totally using that in the future thanks In advance
I stopped watching Sportscenter when I realized they cared more about catch phrases than any insightful commentary.
"He didn't say that, I'm just making sure you're paying attention"
Haha, you seem like the type of guy to throw something like that in there.
No other clip could sum up ESPN more than the "It's a bold strategy Cotton" Clip
I watch you and FlemLo and Jomboy and a few others way more than I ever tune into ESPN shows. I pretty much only watch live sports and 30 for 30s on the old network.
Jomboy!
"Money....
Get away
We need your pay
To give to Stephen A."
Its a sin Stephen A Smith is in any sports job at all.
I am honestly amazed ESPN is even still around.
ESPN: How do we get more people watching again?
"How bout showing games people actually WANT to watch instead of crap like bowling, corn hole, and that other nonsense?"
ESPN: But that costs money!
You say that, but they need SOMETHING other than hot take shows when the major sports aren't playing. I'd personally rather see "nonsense" like the niche sports than hours and hours of talking heads yelling at one another.
We NEED more 30 for 30s from ESPN
Right? Thats their best programming.
I think I can remember maybe between 2008 and 2012 ESPN was hiring a lot of people because they had a big budget and was making lots of money and there was even talks about them buying the rights to broadcast the Olympic Games because the streaming service just started and now look at them now falling down from Grace very hard. Exactly where did it all go wrong for espn?
I think another part of ESPN that goes unnoticed is how they alienate sports fans. Not a fan of football or basketball? ESPN and their sports fans will make you feel small and insignificant
Go woke...Go...
No matter how much espn changes we find comfort in knowing we will always have people to talk smack like you. Thanks for everything you do ❤
The problem with Trey Wingo is that nobody is looking for Trey Wingo
This is the same pattern of any large corporation. At some point, cutting in certain sectors will raise the rate of profit. It's inevitable and it hurts people who worked hard to help said company to reach its heights. This is why unions are important.
The fact that they fired so many credible people and past players but kept Malika and perk is ridiculous
I just realized something I didn’t realize … I have the ESPN app and just watched Wimbledon but as far as highlights of anything I missed I go here. Hmmmm. You’re right. Thanks!
I watch your channel and the others you mentioned (Flemlo, KTO and Perna) because you guys all just make better content - the writing is better, the stories and topics are presented and discussed in a more entertaining and mature way - I dont have to listen to people yelling opinions about sports like a madman confined to Broadmoore (ok maybe Perna sometimes but he gets a "beard pass") - Instead I get to listen to guys who are passionate and care about what they are doing and old media just cant do that - ESPN IS cooked except for live sports and thats a good thing
FCC doesn't actually have any jurisdiction over cable channels such as ESPN. the reason you never hear hard swearing on cable TV is solely out of fears that it would scare off advertisers
Honestly the biggest surprise to me was shaking up their radio side of things again. They pushed Bart and Scott to ESPN NYC and finally gave Jason Fitz a mid day show at the start of the year and Key, Jay and Max was one of their most listened to shows. Meanwhile Greenie is never actually on his own show. It’s usually Canty and/or Carlin. Then they have a rotating cast of people hosting Canty and Carlin for the drive home show.
What it means that Major League Sports is going to contract. As they have no more cities to fleece for stadiums, now they crossed the Rubicon with Las Vegas, they face less revenue for 'television rights'.
Clickbait sports and YT is better than ESPN hands down
The main question that wasn't asked was, who still watches ESPN?
Last time I watched it was when I was on a treadmill at a commercial gym five years ago.
Part of ESPN's problem is giving the talking heads higher billing than the events they're covering. Stephen A. should not be above the fold.
"Where do we go from here, now that the children are growing up." Alan Parsons.
Competition is good for everyone in the media landscape, this is just the latest point in that wave. There's space for everyone to succeed and that won't ever change.
One thing is ESPN is politicizing sports and running fans off.
as a Canadian, I am so glad we don't have to depend on ESPN for sports
ESPN owns 49% of TSN.... which I do watch live sports on. I am pondering if Bell Media (the other partner) is going to do some cost cutting.
I cut back watching ESPN to almost nothing several years ago. TH-cam replaced ESPN for me.
ESPN used to analyze sports, now its all opinion shows from people that are wrong CONSTANTLY.
One other reason behind ESPN's decline is their self-inflicted wounds caused by 'dropping the ball' (pun intended) on major stories like the Bishop Sycamore H.S. "football team" scam. The sports TH-camrs picked up the pieces after ESPN's news department missed the chance to break what turned out to be a major story.
I was ashamed to be a Black man when Perk implicated racism in the MVP race
Your not black shut up
That's really wasn't a good look (I'm white FWIW). If the NBA media seemed to be desperately searching around for any white guy to hand the MVP award to every year he'd have a point. Jokic though has been putting up historically great seasons so it's hard to argue he shouldn't have been at the top of the discussion.
The entire news media world, the entire sports news world would be more than relevant without #PaulFinebaum!
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#PatMcAfee is more than relevant than Paul Finebaum! Pat McAfee could kick Paul Finebaum’s a**! #PaulFInebaum is incapable of kicking anyone’s a**, #TheManUpstairs WON’T LET HIM!
How can you do an ESPN layoff video without mentioning the actual reason for them? ESPN is owned by Disney. Disney initiated these layoffs. This is what happens when dozens of companies are owned by one giant company.
Ohhhh that's a separate video on its own "the soon-to-be downfall of Disney". You've Disney does not get his act together it's going to do a massive sale off
Good job on this
The problem with ESPN is they’ve adopted the same business model as the CNNs and Fox News’ of MSM and as a sports fan, I’ll admit that I find debate shows so frigging annoying for the following reasons.
1. The points they argue are worthless.
2. No one really changes their opinion despite if facts are being unveiled. The commentators never change their view even when their view is clearly proven wrong.
3. Most of these debate shows argue the same damn topics over-and-over-and-over-and-over. It’s just like, “geez, how many times can you debate that LeBron is the GOAT or Dak Prescott is overrated…or Tom Brady is the best QB of all-time.” It just gets so damn old.
When I was in college, I watched ESPN a ton, but now, I actually prefer watching TH-cam sports content like yourself, Tom Grossi, Brandon Perna, UrinatingTree, FlemLo Raps, Mikerophone, JaguarGator, etc. For one, you guys make SEVERAL different types of videos, some interesting fact-based looks to goofy comedy bits, to streaming reaction to sports news. The best part…you guys are actually authentic with your takes. It doesn’t feel like two hollow sports commentators who are blindly arguing…you guys (Clickbait Sports) actually seem like genuine friends that would get beers together at your local tavern if you all didn’t live in different parts of the country and the most important part of all…you all RESPECT each other’s views, even if you don’t agree.
Now granted, there are some personalities that left ESPN and put together pretty good careers for themselves…like Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless (unfortunately) and Shannon Sharpe. However, these guys made it big because they actually had (somewhat) likable personalities (aside from Skip…people just watch him because they can’t wait to see what stupid thing he argues next). A lot of the people who were released from ESPN I don’t think could make it on their own. I think a few could…Suzy Kolber seems like someone if she did start her own show/channel, she might be able to make it work…but nobody else aside from Keyshawn gives me the impression they could make it big on their own.
Stephen A. Smith actually had a pretty good take on this. He stated that the direction that ESPN is heading is they are getting rid of personalities and acquiring “products.” He even stated that he wants to turn himself into a product (which I’d argue he’s probably one of the few personalities at ESPN that could). Pat McAfee (as goofy as he is) is not a dumb guy. He knows ESPN needs his show more than he needs ESPN. If the Pat McAfee Show fails on ESPN due to the crude behavior of its talent, they know they can go back to TH-cam and bounce back.
The fact of the matter is due to streaming, independent content creators have far more power now and aren’t beholden to a large network to regulate their content. If nothing else, it’s actually BETTER to be a smaller indie content creator because YOU control your channel and your content. You don’t have directors and producers telling you how to do your job.
I haven't watched TV in 7.5 years, I don't really understand why people would pay for TV and watch these sports talk shows any more.
I stopped watching ESPN right around the time Stewart Scott passed away. They basically turnned the prime time Sports Center into the SVP show, more about him then the sports they were supposed to be presenting.
ESPN isn’t regulated by the FCC. It’s a cable channel. FCC only covers broadcast. Disney is now Pat’s daddy making him not swear.
John Anderson just announced his retirement from Sportscenter.
Haven't watched espn in maybe 10 yrs. I was actually surprised ppl still tune in