Wow, nice pulse transformer you got there! Never would have thought that a flyback could survive such an abuse. By the way I did a small calculation and I believe the pulses you get out of this transformer are on the order of several microseconds in duration. So 12 cm seems about right for 100 kV ;) Pulse transformers do in fact prevail over Marx generators in any sort of pulse power application where you don't need a standardised pulse (so everywhere besides insulation testing).
Hi Vidduley, thank you! Yes, I stumbled across this method....just was experimenting around and found it. blows my mind the flybacks survive. I fried one...but i was pushing it past 5 inch arcs. CRAZY.
@@enriquethethird7253 well it depends strongly on the waveform and the shape of the electrodes. The only accurate way of saying is to measure directly with a voltage divider and an oscilloscope. I really don't like this 10 kV/cm thing that people seem to use at any time they can, but here for needle electrodes and microsecond pulses it's about right (say +-25%).
Great to see a new video from you. Nice bit of work. Glad you tell people the one hand in pocket. It worries me a lot of channels on here play with high voltage but don’t show no safety to the people. Sometimes I think it would be good to show a video of the dangers of high voltage and how to stay safe before playing with microwave transformers and fly backs.
Thank you. I appreciate you commenting! The one hand rule is super important. I myself fail to remember it from time to time. However, it is good to enforce. To be certain I dont hurt myself, I rarely work around high power levels such as MOT high voltage sources. Too much risk for me.
Stryropyro: Uploaded a video over his new tesla coil. Jay: Hold up I can do that too: "How to make a 100 000 V generator" 😜😜 Great job Jay keep it up💪💪💪 Make a video to make oil fly with this voltage multiplier😋😋😋
Very cool! I work as a high voltage test engineer, and our device to generate up to 2.4 MV lightning impulses is about 35 feet tall. It's basically a marx generator (charges caps in series, discharges in parallel) with 14 stages, but each stage has two 2.0 uF capacitors each rated for about 100 kV. Each stage has an air gap and after the first one triggers at discharge time it's a fast chain reaction discharging all the stages. For practical purposes we dump the lightning impulse into things like transformer bushings meant to go in those huge transformers you may see at power generating stations or substations. I've only had the impulse generator up to about 600 kV though...
Techno, first off 1) Your job sounds AWESOME. 2) when your supervisors are not around, crank up that Marx generator (that is exactly what you described). Turn that sucker up to 100%. I am highly jealous that you work around such power. Cheers mate!
Very impressive demo, as usual. I believe I understand the circuit, but a schematic would be helpful too. Either way, I'll try this. It differs from the usual flyback circuits in that it uses the primary directly, instead of winding an external coil around the ferrite core.
I believe in using the wires already built into the coil. As, they are designed by people with years of experience, so they likely are better than what most people could design.
Give it a try! If you dont get big sparks, try 1) reversing the primary wires 2)attaching to another set of two input wires with similar resistance. BE CAREFUL, have fun!
You can use this to also drive an ignition coil, I use a MOT and some hv diode and some russian capacitor and discharged it into the ignition coil, from two coils I got 90mm sparks
Have something kinda simmilar for my potato canon igniter. It's made of an electric fly swatter that charges up an capacitor and then I have an extra button to discharge it into a automotive 12v coil. Not having a spark gap like you have and only one spark but it does reach about 10cm so I have two 4cm spark gaps in the canon in each end, and it always light at first try.
I've been noticing that it's not so much the gadget that propogates electrical current but the configuration within the gadget that allows such propogation to occur. For me it's a complete change in how to view electricity.
Awesome work mate, definitely a build i will do. now i just want to see you build it up to your normal build quality, packaged in such a way to make it even cooler and fitting for your high voltage collection, and mine. i have a huge number of these flybacks here so will definitely be building one of these. keep up the awesome work mate.
@@PlasmaChannel you know i will be up to this competition, been in a non oficial competition with you for some time, taking your projects and upscaling them slightly. so be very interested to have a more formal competition going. i love your style and get allot of inspiration from you.
I may be totally wrong but this seems eerily similar to how old-school tesla coils are activated with spark gap interrupters (except for the lighter drive circuitry of course), but the idea is taking a relatively high AC-voltage, half-wave rectifying it, which then charges a series capacitance, which triggers the spark gap in parallel, closing the circuit with the primary of the flyback, forming a series LC circuit, driving the flyback secondary. If this is the case, I cant help but wonder about matching the resonances between primary and secondary by altering the capacitance! I suppose it might affect other things though like pulse frequency
2 thoughts, if you're still monitoring comments: 1) You show (and I have) a twin-arc lighter. What's the best thing to do with the second pair of HV wires in this case? 2) I remember hearing an anecdote (no idea if historically true) about Tesla, when he was experimenting with his Wardenclyffe Tower, specifically feeding UHT into the atmosphere. The story goes that after a space of time 'unnaturally rhythmic' lightning started discharging not that far away, even though there were no clouds in the sky. The science of course, is that he was theoretically using the ionosphere as one 'plate' of a capacitor, which being a conductor at those voltages, lead to the wireless transmission of energy. I'd be interested to know your thoughts re the story and the possibilities, thinking of your hankering to 'make real lightning' :)
Hi Chris, great questions. It is best you wire those transformers in series, and use a lot of insulation if you’re tucking the wire connections back into the lighter. Don’t want it arcing to the case. As for the lightning. I’ve never heard this story. I’ll have to look into it and get back to you! Sounds awesome, and, plausible.
@@PlasmaChannel Many thanks for the reply. I'll try the series connection and see what I get - probably some insane voltage ;-) . Great work always - fascinating! I've been a HV & UHV freak every since I got hold of a power transformer with HT (450v) winding as a kid. Haven't grown up yet, and it's over half a century later :D
One of my favorites so far! So you discovered this all by your own tinkering? Is there a schematic at all for this? I am guessing roughly what it is, though currently im not familiar with arc lighter drivers.
Me and my friend even contested in the national exhibition in India about how we can harvest lightning energy ,we proposed a theory + idea with calculation proof but the judges laughed at us saying It's not possible at all 💔 ,WE still believe It's possible,just waiting for a chance we can prove it
Lightning will be a great renewable energy in coming future caused for global warming and as you have mentioned in the video if we can catch just one lightning it can power city upto 2-3 month . What's really awesome,problem is about energy crisis and the solution lies in Nature itself⚡
Try using the Wooden Coil from an Old Model T Ford! I know you will be shocked as to how little D.C. Voltage can be used to drive it. Even a Coin Cell has enough power!
Adrian, that is very kind. Thank you. I am honored you enjoy my content. Please feel free to share my videos on social media, or support me on Patreon.
Have you ever experimented with a neon sign transformer at an old CRT picture tube? I got some surprising results with multiple transformers, two CRT tubes, a few 20kv capacitors, and a switch.
Could you take the output and feed it into more capacitors, diodes and another flyback? Making the circuit explainable and produce ridiculously huge arcs
Hey, can you do a video about fusion, and build a mini fusion reactor. (I think there are ways to make it without radiation, but with the cool glowing effect.)
Bro I am a big fan of your. Love you 😘 bro. Next time please try to make a appliance that produce 5k million volt. I don't know how you will do this. But bro if you don't want to make it, it's not a problem, everyone knows the reason behind, I don't one to be a person which cause your dead. Love you 😘😘😘😘😘😘♥️ bro. Very nice explanation
Just letting you know, the power consumption on arc lighters is generally over 5 Watts (that’s why they generally don’t have an overdischarge protection circuit on the li batteries)
You are correct. However, since the power is being pulsed into the transformer, you can divide the 5 W, or 5 J per second, by the amount of sparks per second. When you do so, each 100,000 V spark is less than a joule, or less than a watt. Thank you for the input, I figured the output of those lighters was several watts.
You can also use a CCFL Inverter because tje also output high frequency plasma jusy like an arc lighter. It will probably be stronger though and runs on 12 volts dc. However it's the same concept.
@@PlasmaChannel Thank you, I have done the same with a CCFL inverter and wow its powerful. You require high voltage caps and diodes. Watch for spikes in the output voltage however due to those not having as stable of an oscillator. Also make sure the impedance of your caps are not to high at that frequency.
its true. Someone you view as more attritive makes them seem pretentious for some reason. My hypothesis are correct! Jokes aside. Awesome content just what i was looking into. I have a new plasma+butane lighter from my family's christmas! But if I were to want to rip one apart ever, ill order a cheaper one.
very cool two phase system, there is both dual mosfets and dual transformer, phase shifted to create the cross effect. amazing that they have all this in such a small package. love these things.
Honestly I think arc lighters are the most amazing thing. I dont even smoke - and i have several. About to buy some more. They are the most amazing HV source you can get.
This is crazzyyy!! I got your desktop voltage multiplier going! But in my excitement, I attempted to make it portable inside a old broken multimeter. I was removing the safety switch from the lighter board, and one of those wires flicked over juuust tapping one of the smd caps at the far side of the battery on the board, made the smallest spark I’ve ever seen but fried something.. I was wondering if you’ve ever had any luck using the components of these lighters without the board successfully before??
Oh boy! They really are sensitive devices! Maybe I can help... what were you doing when it fried? Specifically, where were your hands, how long was it running for, etc.
its the driver that is the likely thing that has fried, the mosfet is super sensitive. a new driver can be made to run the transformer if you recover it, or use a cheap arc lighter kit that is available on ebay. they use through hole components so easier to replace something if it goes wrong.
Hi @@filipandre2927, I did the same... it was because I drew the arc to the battery negative instead of the multiplier ground... I think Jay also done the same in his test builds...
I fried my one too, But the Electronic works fine But the voltage of the lipo went down so the driver didnt switch of the mosfet and more than 5A are flowing for 3min from a little 250 mah Batterie (i disabled it as fast as i could to disconnect the Batterie.) This killed the lipo But i use now 2 of my older lipos Made for small racing Drohnes, becourse i had them and the capacity isnt Anymore the Best for flying. (300mah original,now only 180)they can be discharged at a very high A count like 4-5A for a longer time and its a Good use for them. A lighter is also Not used for more than 3 minutes 😉
I destroyed a wireless keyboard with one of those lighters, haha. My guess is that the high voltage impulse fried the circuitry. I’m happy that only the keyboard took damage, not the computer (maybe the aluminum case of it shielded it). Even if I love my coils, I’m turning back to low voltage: like using the heat of my hand and turn it into a fan using thermoelectric modules. It’s not as sparky, but it’s interesting in it’s own way. Also it’s kinda hard to find components (like motors) that will run on 0.2 V and 0.05 A.
Hey, sorry to hear of the keyboard! Yeah, there are inherent dangers when working with high voltage. I'm glad to hear you're being safe. Also, thermoelectrics are rad.
I'm surprised you managed to measure the resistance on the secondary. Did you later test to see if you had blown the internal diode ? I bet you were disappointed, considering the input volage, the output should be much higher than it appears (with the internal diode still functioning and without). /watch?v=4UFKl9fULkA&t=46m11s normal "flyback" operation, deflation mode. I'd like to see you illustrate exactly what's happening it the core (using the left hand rule for electron current) , I'm planning on doing that myself, if you don't beat me to it. it would be a good oportunity to explain what's happening in the so called "Leedskalnin PMH", perpetual loop magnetization, which bleeds off in ferrite HF cores such as this one. If you get your hands on a huge pure iron core, you could store a hell of a punch in it by running high power DC on the primary, and getting HV DC again on the primary /secondary when you sheer off the polished ended core breaker. A lever mechanism would make things easy.
Pls explain the proper working of Tesla coil operating on AC or DC the type of output it gives and can it be operated on DC or it will need input of AC only
You likely can. However, it is not a true tesla coil unless the spark coming out is larger than the HV spark you put into it. Just make sure you design it to do so, and yes you can!
Errrg I need a flyback! Theyre hard to find out in the world! Bought a thrift ion air cleaner.. of course it’s too small for a flyback hahah And people are now wanting actual money for their “vintage” crt TVs bahah
cool video for sure, recently i got euhm enchanted by plasma (cosmology).. a few years ago i almost got hit by lightning and i will never forget how impressive that was.. now what i wanted to say/ask is what do you think about the theory lightning is not (only) the result of static being built up in clouds trough convection but rather it being part of a larger current circuit, implicating its sunrelated also its linked to the theory of all weather being forced by the sun.. i think its very fascinating, also anthony peratt's (sure you know about his work at los alamos?) later work on linking petroglyphs with global observation of z'pinches most likely caused by a big flare or micronova.. there's so much things i could refer to like the valles marineres plasma-scar on mars and other plasma related possible evidences found around our solarsystem.. i find it just so crazy our whole universe could be plasma/electric in nature and popular science feeding us info about space rarely mentioning it.. (sorry for my bad english i'm belgian, dutch speaking :p )
I was wondering about making best use of a dual arc lighter. It's not clear in the vid how you used the output(s) of the lighter you disassembled. It looks like there are two independent windings on that output transformer, so did you wire the outputs in series or only used one of the arc winding outputs? Dual arc is the only sort of lighter I can get hold of, so that's my interest. Many thanks.
can you please explain in simple proactical manner or: What is really the Meaning of the word (Plasma) in this context and the difference from Electric???? thnx
Plasma is when you take a matter, and rip electrons off the atoms... which ionizes them. High voltage electricity causes electrons to be ripped off of atoms. That is plasma
I would love to make videos every friday. However, I have a full time job to support myself. So, I can only make videos at night, in my free time. It takes a while to make each video!
Hey man! Hope all had been well! I’m currently driving a flyback with a fluorescent ballast, and was just wondering if you’d think this would work with the ballast in place of the lighter? 🤔
I attempted this with two different tv fly back transformers but could not get it to work. The hv wire did not seem to have a connection with any of the pins. Broken? Not sure. Was definitely arcing DC HV through the primary though.
Interesting. With one of my transformers, I did have that problem. Here is the model number of the transformer I used successfully : 8-598-962-00 NX-1731//X 7122B17 That's all I got!
Would grounding the return wire allow you to discharge to other grounded objects, or would it just fry the arc lighter? They seem pretty picky on what they'll discharge through.
Well, in terms of rate of energy expenditure....its 100kv at likely a few amps. However, the pulse duration is so short - likely less than a couple milliseconds. When you divide the power in, buy the number of sparks out...its less than 1 watt per spark.
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Nice! You're sending chopped up DC into the flyback transformer (though the series capacitors arguably block the straight DC component), but the changing magnetic field in the core will make AC sparks on the HV side. Can you put a neon bulb in the big spark without frying it? It'd be interesting to see if both electrodes light up (AC) or only one (DC).
@@PlasmaChannel That's Cool. If we suppose the sparks touch you , you won't die right ? Because the energy behind them is low however what kind of damage will happen to you ?
Hey Im a huge fan and love this experiment. I never knew you could drive a flyback transformer with a spark gap thats too cool. Id like to make a request for a video. since you love everything high voltage would you make a video demonstrating the Lord Kelvin's thunderstorm?
you mention keeping your hand in your pocket as a safety measure, could you elaborate a little on what this does scientifically to help safety? Also, whats the small black box connecting the lighter circuit to the diode/flyback combo?
Just to avoid putting your hand on a grounded surface while the other works with high voltage. This way, it will be impossible to get shocked by accident.
What happens when someone touches the "lightening"? A pocket lighter probably wouldn't kill you if you used it as a shocker, so I'm guessing the same here. It'd probably hurt though. Anyone want to try it?
That is a great question. a ZVS driver would produce very high current, and perhaps 30-40kV. This method produces much larger voltage, and, creates a DC spark just like lightning
That's not 100Kv ; that's 381Kv!!! Breakdown of air is 3kv/mm, if that's 5 inch that's 127mm, each taking 3Kv = 381Kv Can that be used to charge a high voltage capacitor?
The 3kv / mm measurement is only if using rounded, smooth electrodes. Specifically 1” brass spheres. With sharp points such as ends of a wire, it is much easier to form sparks with a lower voltage.
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Wow, nice pulse transformer you got there! Never would have thought that a flyback could survive such an abuse. By the way I did a small calculation and I believe the pulses you get out of this transformer are on the order of several microseconds in duration. So 12 cm seems about right for 100 kV ;) Pulse transformers do in fact prevail over Marx generators in any sort of pulse power application where you don't need a standardised pulse (so everywhere besides insulation testing).
Hi Vidduley, thank you! Yes, I stumbled across this method....just was experimenting around and found it. blows my mind the flybacks survive. I fried one...but i was pushing it past 5 inch arcs. CRAZY.
is that 8.3kV/cm? i apologize, for the past week i've been figuring out how much mine produces.
@@enriquethethird7253 well it depends strongly on the waveform and the shape of the electrodes. The only accurate way of saying is to measure directly with a voltage divider and an oscilloscope. I really don't like this 10 kV/cm thing that people seem to use at any time they can, but here for needle electrodes and microsecond pulses it's about right (say +-25%).
@@Vidduley ooooohh thanks for the insight, man!
It's amazing that you've " recently come across" this simple circuit with all of your amazing stuff. It's good to see the basics back.
Great to see a new video from you. Nice bit of work. Glad you tell people the one hand in pocket. It worries me a lot of channels on here play with high voltage but don’t show no safety to the people. Sometimes I think it would be good to show a video of the dangers of high voltage and how to stay safe before playing with microwave transformers and fly backs.
Thank you. I appreciate you commenting! The one hand rule is super important. I myself fail to remember it from time to time. However, it is good to enforce. To be certain I dont hurt myself, I rarely work around high power levels such as MOT high voltage sources. Too much risk for me.
Stryropyro: Uploaded a video over his new tesla coil.
Jay: Hold up I can do that too: "How to make a 100 000 V generator" 😜😜
Great job Jay keep it up💪💪💪 Make a video to make oil fly with this voltage multiplier😋😋😋
Heh, I got some voltage over here. Voltage to share!
Very cool! I work as a high voltage test engineer, and our device to generate up to 2.4 MV lightning impulses is about 35 feet tall. It's basically a marx generator (charges caps in series, discharges in parallel) with 14 stages, but each stage has two 2.0 uF capacitors each rated for about 100 kV. Each stage has an air gap and after the first one triggers at discharge time it's a fast chain reaction discharging all the stages. For practical purposes we dump the lightning impulse into things like transformer bushings meant to go in those huge transformers you may see at power generating stations or substations. I've only had the impulse generator up to about 600 kV though...
Techno, first off 1) Your job sounds AWESOME. 2) when your supervisors are not around, crank up that Marx generator (that is exactly what you described). Turn that sucker up to 100%. I am highly jealous that you work around such power. Cheers mate!
Very impressive demo, as usual. I believe I understand the circuit, but a schematic would be helpful too. Either way, I'll try this. It differs from the usual flyback circuits in that it uses the primary directly, instead of winding an external coil around the ferrite core.
I believe in using the wires already built into the coil. As, they are designed by people with years of experience, so they likely are better than what most people could design.
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This is so cool. Can’t wait to try this one!
Give it a try! If you dont get big sparks, try 1) reversing the primary wires 2)attaching to another set of two input wires with similar resistance. BE CAREFUL, have fun!
Plasma Channel Thank you for the tips good sir! 😎
You can use this to also drive an ignition coil, I use a MOT and some hv diode and some russian capacitor and discharged it into the ignition coil, from two coils I got 90mm sparks
That is impressive. That much power does scare me though.
The old Kirlian photography setups used the ignition coil from old Ford Model T cars. Although I suspect they are harder to come by these days. ;p
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They're such loving, loyal sparks. I could almost see their smiles.
I've been studying the look of lightning to try to recreate it with VFX and this video really really helped thank you very much!
Glad that my video helps!
Have something kinda simmilar for my potato canon igniter.
It's made of an electric fly swatter that charges up an capacitor and then I have an extra button to discharge it into a automotive 12v coil.
Not having a spark gap like you have and only one spark but it does reach about 10cm so I have two 4cm spark gaps in the canon in each end, and it always light at first try.
I've been noticing that it's not so much the gadget that propogates electrical current but the configuration within the gadget that allows such propogation to occur. For me it's a complete change in how to view electricity.
Configuration is everything, in electronics.
Awesome work mate, definitely a build i will do. now i just want to see you build it up to your normal build quality, packaged in such a way to make it even cooler and fitting for your high voltage collection, and mine. i have a huge number of these flybacks here so will definitely be building one of these. keep up the awesome work mate.
Thanks Noel! Yes, I actually have grand plans to scale this up, and start a specific internet competition.
@@PlasmaChannel you know i will be up to this competition, been in a non oficial competition with you for some time, taking your projects and upscaling them slightly. so be very interested to have a more formal competition going. i love your style and get allot of inspiration from you.
Cool vidio, who'd have thought that arcs like that were possible from such a small battery.
Thank you very much. I will be starting a competition soon, and it will make this spark size look very small!
I may be totally wrong but this seems eerily similar to how old-school tesla coils are activated with spark gap interrupters (except for the lighter drive circuitry of course), but the idea is taking a relatively high AC-voltage, half-wave rectifying it, which then charges a series capacitance, which triggers the spark gap in parallel, closing the circuit with the primary of the flyback, forming a series LC circuit, driving the flyback secondary. If this is the case, I cant help but wonder about matching the resonances between primary and secondary by altering the capacitance! I suppose it might affect other things though like pulse frequency
That is a truly amazing amount of output for such a small input!! Neat build!
Yes, When I first saw it....I lost my mind. I kept pushing the spark and could not believe the output.
@@PlasmaChannel I'm going to build one of those soon, this is why I'm subscribed, you are AWESOME!
2 thoughts, if you're still monitoring comments:
1) You show (and I have) a twin-arc lighter. What's the best thing to do with the second pair of HV wires in this case?
2) I remember hearing an anecdote (no idea if historically true) about Tesla, when he was experimenting with his
Wardenclyffe Tower, specifically feeding UHT into the atmosphere.
The story goes that after a space of time 'unnaturally rhythmic' lightning started discharging not that far away, even though there were no clouds in the sky.
The science of course, is that he was theoretically using the ionosphere as one 'plate' of a capacitor, which being a conductor at those voltages, lead to the wireless transmission of energy.
I'd be interested to know your thoughts re the story and the possibilities, thinking of your hankering to 'make real lightning' :)
Hi Chris, great questions. It is best you wire those transformers in series, and use a lot of insulation if you’re tucking the wire connections back into the lighter. Don’t want it arcing to the case.
As for the lightning. I’ve never heard this story. I’ll have to look into it and get back to you! Sounds awesome, and, plausible.
@@PlasmaChannel Many thanks for the reply. I'll try the series connection and see what I get - probably some insane voltage ;-) .
Great work always - fascinating!
I've been a HV & UHV freak every since I got hold of a power transformer with HT (450v) winding as a kid.
Haven't grown up yet, and it's over half a century later :D
This video is rock solid!
Thanks Dayton! Btw- I’m still waiting on final approval from fcc for outdoor tests of the radio.
@@PlasmaChannel Wow! They're so snappy!
Great video, got a few fly backs lying around, now I have something to do with them
Give it a try. Be safe, but experiment away!
Plasma Channel I will, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Jay
The master of lightning.....⚡
I can only hope.
The Zeus
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What if anything could be done to avoid the need for the oil bath? Is it the insulation in the flyback that is failing?
No, the internal insulation is amazing. The oil prevents the transformer from arcing around the outside of itself.
One of my favorites so far! So you discovered this all by your own tinkering? Is there a schematic at all for this? I am guessing roughly what it is, though currently im not familiar with arc lighter drivers.
You love lightning ⚡ I love lightning and that's why I like you so much ,top most channel in TH-cam of HV experiments⚡
Thank you very much. Lightning gave life to this planet. We owe everything to electricity. It runs our bodies, and the world around us.
Me and my friend even contested in the national exhibition in India about how we can harvest lightning energy ,we proposed a theory + idea with calculation proof but the judges laughed at us saying It's not possible at all 💔 ,WE still believe It's possible,just waiting for a chance we can prove it
Lightning will be a great renewable energy in coming future caused for global warming and as you have mentioned in the video if we can catch just one lightning it can power city upto 2-3 month . What's really awesome,problem is about energy crisis and the solution lies in Nature itself⚡
Try using the Wooden Coil from an Old Model T Ford! I know you will be shocked as to how little D.C. Voltage can be used to drive it. Even a Coin Cell has enough power!
Wooden coil??You have my attention.
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Adrian, that is very kind. Thank you. I am honored you enjoy my content. Please feel free to share my videos on social media, or support me on Patreon.
Amazing work! Also, which wire would be the high voltage negative output? Thank you
Have you ever experimented with a neon sign transformer at an old CRT picture tube? I got some surprising results with multiple transformers, two CRT tubes, a few 20kv capacitors, and a switch.
This is one of the experiments
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Interesting. That was 60kv?
What would happen if you raplaces that arc lighter with something that already has a 100kv output?
It would break the capacitors. And, the pulse circuit would not work.
Could you take the output and feed it into more capacitors, diodes and another flyback? Making the circuit explainable and produce ridiculously huge arcs
Great idea. Yes, you should be able to!
Hey, can you do a video about fusion, and build a mini fusion reactor. (I think there are
ways to make it without radiation, but with the cool glowing effect.)
That's a great idea, and one which may take a bit of work. I can certainly put that in the cue for videos!
Nice work. Can we use domestically the 100,000 volt. Can we light up the room light. If so. How?!
Literally the video I was looking for
So.. would this power a Tesla coil? Dn the same circuit twice😂 this is gonna be a fun project, thank you for the great ideas!
And is the end of the high V return grounded?
That was my dream also😍🤩... to use lightings for producing energy for humanity 😇💝
Bro I am a big fan of your. Love you 😘 bro. Next time please try to make a appliance that produce 5k million volt. I don't know how you will do this. But bro if you don't want to make it, it's not a problem, everyone knows the reason behind, I don't one to be a person which cause your dead. Love you 😘😘😘😘😘😘♥️ bro. Very nice explanation
Just letting you know, the power consumption on arc lighters is generally over 5 Watts (that’s why they generally don’t have an overdischarge protection circuit on the li batteries)
You are correct. However, since the power is being pulsed into the transformer, you can divide the 5 W, or 5 J per second, by the amount of sparks per second. When you do so, each 100,000 V spark is less than a joule, or less than a watt. Thank you for the input, I figured the output of those lighters was several watts.
You know you control static electricity plasma channel😊
Static electricity is kinda like lightning?
Lightning is merely static electrical charges......discharging. So, yes! I hope to control all static electricity one day.
You can also use a CCFL Inverter because tje also output high frequency plasma jusy like an arc lighter. It will probably be stronger though and runs on 12 volts dc. However it's the same concept.
That's a great idea.
@@PlasmaChannel Thank you, I have done the same with a CCFL inverter and wow its powerful. You require high voltage caps and diodes. Watch for spikes in the output voltage however due to those not having as stable of an oscillator. Also make sure the impedance of your caps are not to high at that frequency.
Great build
Thank you!
its true. Someone you view as more attritive makes them seem pretentious for some reason.
My hypothesis are correct!
Jokes aside. Awesome content just what i was looking into. I have a new plasma+butane lighter from my family's christmas!
But if I were to want to rip one apart ever, ill order a cheaper one.
Great content Jay. I think we brother from another mother 😂 just subbed and ordered my capacitors 👍
Thank you for the compliments. I am honored to have you join Plasma Nation!
Awesome video but when I saw the arc lighter I was like how the blue heck do they get the arc in a criss cross! What!?
Ah! Its amazing isnt it. They use two transformers, and they fire at alternating times.
very cool two phase system, there is both dual mosfets and dual transformer, phase shifted to create the cross effect. amazing that they have all this in such a small package. love these things.
Thanks! I’ll research the schematic
Honestly I think arc lighters are the most amazing thing. I dont even smoke - and i have several. About to buy some more. They are the most amazing HV source you can get.
@@PlasmaChannel im the same, i dont smoke but i have several of these, one in my EDC, they are just a super cool piece of tech.
Dayum. Thats impressive
Crazy stuff, I thought. When I first experimented with this, I lost my head.
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Greetings from Seattle, Wa, USA
your videos are awesome! keep doing it!
This is crazzyyy!!
I got your desktop voltage multiplier going!
But in my excitement, I attempted to make it portable inside a old broken multimeter.
I was removing the safety switch from the lighter board, and one of those wires flicked over juuust tapping one of the smd caps at the far side of the battery on the board, made the smallest spark I’ve ever seen but fried something..
I was wondering if you’ve ever had any luck using the components of these lighters without the board successfully before??
I fried my arc lighter in the last project xD
Oh boy! They really are sensitive devices! Maybe I can help... what were you doing when it fried? Specifically, where were your hands, how long was it running for, etc.
its the driver that is the likely thing that has fried, the mosfet is super sensitive. a new driver can be made to run the transformer if you recover it, or use a cheap arc lighter kit that is available on ebay. they use through hole components so easier to replace something if it goes wrong.
@@PlasmaChannel I think I connected it wrong to the multiplyer or something, the mosfets got really hot.
Hi @@filipandre2927, I did the same... it was because I drew the arc to the battery negative instead of the multiplier ground... I think Jay also done the same in his test builds...
I fried my one too, But the Electronic works fine But the voltage of the lipo went down so the driver didnt switch of the mosfet and more than 5A are flowing for 3min from a little 250 mah Batterie (i disabled it as fast as i could to disconnect the Batterie.)
This killed the lipo But i use now 2 of my older lipos Made for small racing Drohnes, becourse i had them and the capacity isnt Anymore the Best for flying. (300mah original,now only 180)they can be discharged at a very high A count like 4-5A for a longer time and its a Good use for them. A lighter is also Not used for more than 3 minutes
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I destroyed a wireless keyboard with one of those lighters, haha.
My guess is that the high voltage impulse fried the circuitry. I’m happy that only the keyboard took damage, not the computer (maybe the aluminum case of it shielded it).
Even if I love my coils, I’m turning back to low voltage: like using the heat of my hand and turn it into a fan using thermoelectric modules. It’s not as sparky, but it’s interesting in it’s own way. Also it’s kinda hard to find components (like motors) that will run on 0.2 V and 0.05 A.
Hey, sorry to hear of the keyboard! Yeah, there are inherent dangers when working with high voltage. I'm glad to hear you're being safe. Also, thermoelectrics are rad.
I'm surprised you managed to measure the resistance on the secondary. Did you later test to see if you had blown the internal diode ? I bet you were disappointed, considering the input volage, the output should be much higher than it appears (with the internal diode still functioning and without). /watch?v=4UFKl9fULkA&t=46m11s normal "flyback" operation, deflation mode. I'd like to see you illustrate exactly what's happening it the core (using the left hand rule for electron current) , I'm planning on doing that myself, if you don't beat me to it. it would be a good oportunity to explain what's happening in the so called "Leedskalnin PMH", perpetual loop magnetization, which bleeds off in ferrite HF cores such as this one. If you get your hands on a huge pure iron core, you could store a hell of a punch in it by running high power DC on the primary, and getting HV DC again on the primary /secondary when you sheer off the polished ended core breaker. A lever mechanism would make things easy.
You are the lightning master.
Thank you, I can only hope!
CAPACITOR! an outdoor fixture with wiring or rocket to tap the storms and induce rapid charge if the capacitor
Are you asking about seeding lightning with a rocket and a ground wire?
@@PlasmaChannel rather I'm suggesting using a wire or antenna to attract lighting to the capacitor to charge the device. Collect energy thus way
Pls explain the proper working of Tesla coil operating on AC or DC the type of output it gives and can it be operated on DC or it will need input of AC only
Hello, please do not spam my youtube videos with cut and paste identical comments. Thank you. I responded to two of these so far.
Hi! Can i make a tesla coil with those 400kv chinese stun gun modules?
Yes you can . I have already made.
You likely can. However, it is not a true tesla coil unless the spark coming out is larger than the HV spark you put into it. Just make sure you design it to do so, and yes you can!
Are you able to add this circuit to a Tesla coil and get the same sparks off the top load
What happens if you increase the gap to 6 inches and then a Mosquito flies through the gap?
Errrg I need a flyback! Theyre hard to find out in the world! Bought a thrift ion air cleaner.. of course it’s too small for a flyback hahah
And people are now wanting actual money for their “vintage” crt TVs bahah
Can the same thing be made with bug zapper instead of arc lighter and layden jar instead of ceramic capacitor? Please repply
cool video for sure, recently i got euhm enchanted by plasma (cosmology).. a few years ago i almost got hit by lightning and i will never forget how impressive that was.. now what i wanted to say/ask is what do you think about the theory lightning is not (only) the result of static being built up in clouds trough convection but rather it being part of a larger current circuit, implicating its sunrelated also its linked to the theory of all weather being forced by the sun.. i think its very fascinating, also anthony peratt's (sure you know about his work at los alamos?) later work on linking petroglyphs with global observation of z'pinches most likely caused by a big flare or micronova.. there's so much things i could refer to like the valles marineres plasma-scar on mars and other plasma related possible evidences found around our solarsystem.. i find it just so crazy our whole universe could be plasma/electric in nature and popular science feeding us info about space rarely mentioning it.. (sorry for my bad english i'm belgian, dutch speaking :p )
Can you charge yourself with it
Like you did it with the lightning tower?
is it possible to add a voltage multiplier at its output to make even more voltage ?
I was wondering about making best use of a dual arc lighter. It's not clear in the vid how you used the output(s) of the lighter you disassembled. It looks like there are two independent windings on that output transformer, so did you wire the outputs in series or only used one of the arc winding outputs? Dual arc is the only sort of lighter I can get hold of, so that's my interest. Many thanks.
can you please explain in simple proactical manner or: What is really the Meaning of the word (Plasma) in this context and the difference from Electric???? thnx
Plasma is when you take a matter, and rip electrons off the atoms... which ionizes them.
High voltage electricity causes electrons to be ripped off of atoms.
That is plasma
Do you think I could wind my own primary? because my transformer is very strange and I cannot for the life of me find the primary.
Woo jay... Great work... Thanks for the video
Hello Mr Lee. Thank you.
that is really a good one.
you should make video more frequently
I would love to make videos every friday. However, I have a full time job to support myself. So, I can only make videos at night, in my free time. It takes a while to make each video!
Great job, Jay!
Chris!! Wonderful hearing from you! You’ve been missed my friend. Thanks for the compliments.
Also can i use epoxy instead of oil?
You're really good sir! Do you mind commenting about the rotating arc plasma lighter? Is it possible to make one on a slightly bigger scale?
Hey man! Hope all had been well!
I’m currently driving a flyback with a fluorescent ballast, and was just wondering if you’d think this would work with the ballast in place of the lighter? 🤔
I attempted this with two different tv fly back transformers but could not get it to work. The hv wire did not seem to have a connection with any of the pins. Broken? Not sure. Was definitely arcing DC HV through the primary though.
Interesting. With one of my transformers, I did have that problem. Here is the model number of the transformer I used successfully : 8-598-962-00 NX-1731//X 7122B17 That's all I got!
I just found out you are the real MacGyver behind that TV show.
Dont tell others my secret.
High quality content 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Would grounding the return wire allow you to discharge to other grounded objects, or would it just fry the arc lighter? They seem pretty picky on what they'll discharge through.
Great question. It should, however, I do not recommend doing so as safety then becomes an issue.
@@PlasmaChannel Thanks! Would there be a way I could contact you for a business inquiry?
Excellent! Thank you.
Hi kirk, I'm honored you enjoyed.
But the 1watt is hardly pulsed and frequency degenerated... So it's more like 100 to 300 watt pulses I guess?
Put your finger and tell us ! ^^
Well, in terms of rate of energy expenditure....its 100kv at likely a few amps. However, the pulse duration is so short - likely less than a couple milliseconds. When you divide the power in, buy the number of sparks out...its less than 1 watt per spark.
what if you put a few of them in series...like 5 of them?
Hi Jay, nice as always.
thank you very much!
Man your content is always on point. 👍
Thank you
I've resubscribed homie, please don't have me taken out. LOL. I've just heard a live channel leader say he had all the subscribers info once. Yer like muh only sub now. ( : D)
Nice! You're sending chopped up DC into the flyback transformer (though the series capacitors arguably block the straight DC component), but the changing magnetic field in the core will make AC sparks on the HV side. Can you put a neon bulb in the big spark without frying it? It'd be interesting to see if both electrodes light up (AC) or only one (DC).
I'm sorry, I dont follow in regard to the neon bulbs?
@@PlasmaChannel Video response & demonstration here: th-cam.com/video/sBDd8nfO3tk/w-d-xo.html
Excellent, that makes sense! I think the larger sparks will likely fry the neon bulbs. BTW super cool viddy you made.
Nice project sir.
Thank you
Can you increase the power of an ignition coil?
Why don’t you need current for these massive jumps?
Those sparks are veryyyyy high current bjt for very low amount of time
Please build a high power Tesla coil with high voltage Power Supply made out of Floursent Ballast and flyback transformer please
A flyback tesla coil is definitely in the works. Thanks!
@@PlasmaChannel Thanks sir
Very cool. I'm wondering if you're still working on earth bending. Keep up the good work.
I am indeed still thinking of an earth bending episode!
@@PlasmaChannel That's Cool. If we suppose the sparks touch you , you won't die right ? Because the energy behind them is low however what kind of damage will happen to you ?
Hey Im a huge fan and love this experiment. I never knew you could drive a flyback transformer with a spark gap thats too cool.
Id like to make a request for a video. since you love everything high voltage would you make a video demonstrating the Lord Kelvin's thunderstorm?
Ozymandias, thank you for being a subscriber! and heck yes that is on my list of experiments. It's coming up for sure!
@@PlasmaChannel Sweet! i look forward to that one!
you mention keeping your hand in your pocket as a safety measure, could you elaborate a little on what this does scientifically to help safety? Also, whats the small black box connecting the lighter circuit to the diode/flyback combo?
It simply stops you getting both hands together across two high voltage points. Impossible with one hand out of the way.
Just to avoid putting your hand on a grounded surface while the other works with high voltage. This way, it will be impossible to get shocked by accident.
Long story short: it prevents a electricity from traveling across your chest-----through your heart.
@@timovneerden not imposible to get shocked but imposible to get killed
Huh why did I not get you in my recomended earlier
Are your notifications for my channel turned on?
@@PlasmaChannel ofc
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@@PlasmaChannel ofcourse
Ah. I guess I’m old now lol. Didnt get it at first.
Could you tell me whether there will be a plasma channel (spherical bubble) around the brighter discharge?
What happens when someone touches the "lightening"? A pocket lighter probably wouldn't kill you if you used it as a shocker, so I'm guessing the same here. It'd probably hurt though. Anyone want to try it?
Soldering over a glass table. Haha hope you never crack it
Man, ive abused that table.....
не проще было намотать на свободной стороне феррита 6+6 витков со средней точкой и подключить ZVS Driver?
That is a great question. a ZVS driver would produce very high current, and perhaps 30-40kV. This method produces much larger voltage, and, creates a DC spark just like lightning
Amazing
Thanks!
Nice one. Thanks.
Thank you!
(Subaru)I opend up my transformer.
And it has 3 whires on the middle and two tn the side. What should i do?
That's not 100Kv ; that's 381Kv!!! Breakdown of air is 3kv/mm, if that's 5 inch that's 127mm, each taking 3Kv = 381Kv
Can that be used to charge a high voltage capacitor?
The 3kv / mm measurement is only if using rounded, smooth electrodes. Specifically 1” brass spheres. With sharp points such as ends of a wire, it is much easier to form sparks with a lower voltage.