This video is Flite Test at its finest: Education. I.e., advancing the hobby by providing basic advice to beginners. Don't get me wrong; I love the "Challenge" and "Lets Fly" episodes, but those are just entertainment. They make beginners WANT to fly. Education teaches beginners HOW to fly. Good work!
+Jack2Japan This is dead on. As a beginner, I love watching all of the crazy stuff for inspiration. But their beginner-focused vids communicate a lot of solid info and advice with great production values, making it fun to watch.
Fantastic entry level video to fly multirotors. My wife has been flying the Nano QX since last fall and she still got some great tips from watching this video. She will be building her first mini h quad soon and very excited to learn everything she can from scratch-building, soldering and tuning. Thank you all again for being such a positive influence on this hobby.
This is probably the best educational video I have ever seen for everyone who wants to start off learning to fly correctly. I DID NOT have any fancy quantization gear on my first $29 dollar quad. Thank you so much guys!
I am SO happy you're teaching new people to learn without the giant handicap of auto-level. Better pilots all around will come from learning how to fly these things the right way. Buying a Phantom as your first multi is a terrible idea so I'm also happy you touched on that.
Actually it's not a terrible idea (thats an exaggeration). The Phantom has a Manual mode so it could work just the same as any other multi rotor. I've met plenty of people who have used a phantom as their first and have had no problems.
You could drive a Model A or a Tesla. Most would pick the Tesla over the Model A. I do not need to know how to drive the Model A to Drive a Tesla and in fact the controls are not close to the same for anyone that has driven an old car, controls are not close to what is on a new car other than the steering wheel. So I see no problem with starting out with a Phantom.
***** What about all the videos where the barometer fails due to temperature or light making them get stuck in the air. Then IF the pilot even dared enter the dreaded "manual" mode, he is now completely out of control and heading for the crowd of spectators. There are quite a few videos of this on TH-cam. It happens and the pilots should at least know how the basic controls work in manual mode before flying more then a few feet from the ground.
All rotary wing aircraft are unstable. I do agree that it does make sense to learn to fly a multi-roter aircraft with one of the many available micro's or mini's available. I do have to disagree very much with the bias against using these aircraft that have sophisticated flight control systems. There is still a large learning curve but what you will learn faster is that it does not take large stick movements to make corrections. My background is ROV's. One of the jobs we had to do was diver support. Early ROV's did not have too much in the way of auto controls. We were lucky if we had auto heading and auto depth. The flight controllers used in the hobby today are quantum leaps more capable. These very same electronics are now being used to control very expensive and sophisticated vehicles. Unlike multi-roters ROV's are very stable. When teaching new pilots we tell them when first getting into trouble let go of the control stick. This is something you cannot do with a multi-roter without a flight controller. The fact is there really is no reason these days to fly without flight controller assistance unless you want to do things with it that cannot be done with the flight controller engaged. Almost all flight controllers have various modes that remove the amount of assistance given. Therefore learning to fly a multi can be done in stages where the danger of being overloaded is reduced and the probability of success is increased.
I've been trying to get friends involved in multi-rotor and my training has been "ad hoc" at best. This video REALLY helped me learn some tricks and tips that I can use to make my teaching more structured and, hopefully, make it less confusing and frustrating for the students. Many thanks for a great video and remember, safe flying is simply keeping the pointy end forward and the shiny side up.
This video made me feel so much better about NOT flying orientation yet. Just started walking the dog, but didn't realize I was doing these steps naturally as a real progression of skills, I just doing what I'm feeling confident with right now. Who knew it would be what you are suggesting? Awesome. Love this hobby. Thanks guys.
flitetest. guys I have been subscribed to you for a long time. I just want to say thanks it was your videos they got me into multirotors a couple years ago and now I couldn't imagine a hobby without fpv. your patience in training and all you are free knowledge have really helped me go from a noob to understanding what it really means to build your own multi-rotor in fly. I've built several now over the years, and my latest Buy which now looking back I should have bought your anycopter but it's a Walkera Runner 250 and I got to save these guys build one hell of a quad. I wish you would do a review on it because I'm tearing through trails that probably 35 miles an hour all I did was put better gemfan's on it and for a $200 investment it's a weapon. the reason I'm writing this is because it's all because of you guys thanks for getting me into it. and I really want to say I appreciate all your videos and patience you guys truly are the best and it really shows that you love the hobby I can imagine TH-cam without you guys now. thanks for everything Frank Central Florida...
This video could not have come at a better time. I've build a medium quad this winter/spring, and was very worried how I would start flying it without experience. I did not want to learn bad habits, so I was a bit scared. And then...FLITE TEST to the rescue! Once again, you guys are great. Ok, I'm starting to miss David, cause all of you together had great chemistry, but I'm more of a fan of FLITE TEST day after day! Thanks!
Thank you guys for putting this video out! I''m so glad to see you guys showing some basic steps for beginner pilots, and especially emphasizing some simple safety measures like safe places and knowing when to cut throttle. So glad to see you guys working so hard to keep this hobby awesome!
Thanks guys. I was beginning to think I just lacked the ability to ever get it. But after following your advice in this video, it's like a light just turned on. Finally it's more fun than work to fly. Thanks again
I wish I watched this video when I first started, if it wasn't for the love of flying I would have been frustrated a given up. Watching a multirotor in flight under awesome control is the most amazingly beautiful sight in the world. I just jumped straight in and flew, a multicopter with blade guards like the udi818a is awesome because you almost never break a blade. This hobby has so much growth that what I'm doing with multirotors now amazes even myself.
Great video guys! I've been teaching myself multi rotors for the past 6 months. Once I turned off all the "assistance" I immediately started to become a better pilot. The training wheels were definitely holding me back. I'm in Toledo OH and hope I can make it to Flite Fest. Again another great video you guys rock!
Learning to fly as these guys show is probably the best way and don't be afraid to crash. I'm about three weeks into flying quadricopters and had originally got discouraged with my Blade Glimpse and got a Parrot AR.Drone to help. While the handicap was nice, it wasn't teaching me the things I needed, like being able to hover without assistance. Don't be afraid, fly the quad and have fun. My Glimpse is pretty much a version of the nano and is equally indestructible when it comes to crashes trust me I know :) A lot of good advice on this video and my appreciate of RC has grown exponentially since starting. I never knew I could have as much fun as I do now with RC aircraft.
Took me almost 3 months to comfortably fly fast with full cyclic and doing circle, but only with frame/kit and radio that i am familiar with. Training is worth it, you enjoy your craft more.
I learned to fly a multirotor on a 3-axis gyro Syma X1, which taught me heaps about wind behavior, hover, when to kill the throttle, etc. I realized watching this video that I did my homework, and that a strong common sense and warmed-up thumbs (or fingers for pinchers) before flying a bigger platform always loosen up. I'd say that the flight characteristics of, say a Hubsan 107-series wherein the frame has no air canopy underneath (syma x1 and wl 9x9 types can rely on more updraft for lift) would be a great warm-up before a DJI or x350 pro type of flying box. I'm glad Flite Test tube exists: it's one of the best places you can learn off of apart from what you've got in front of you. There have been at least a couple of times I might have crashed a heavy x350pro if I didn't hear some haunting tips in my head from Josh and Alex right at the moment lol.
Another great video. I am using the good flying summer months to get about a dozen airplane projects in the air (most of them swappables) and then use the fall/winter to go indoors to pick up multicopters. This video comes in handy - thanks guys.
I have to say that I 'learned' to fly my selfbuild quadcopter with autolevel. And I do not regret it. It allowed me to fly eights and courves within 5 minutes. The difficult thing about autolevel is that you have to understand what the flightcontroller is doing exactly. You have to know that it tries to hold a certain angle if you put the stick into a certain position. That means that stick at center means that the copter will level, but it will not hover on the spot. So you still have to tilt the copter into the opposite direction to brake, you have to fly faster circles like with a regular helicopter to let the look nice. I really enjoy the autolevel feature. When I tried to fly 50cm singlerotor-helis about 3 years ago, it was always more scary than fun. I was always afraid to crash. It feels so much better to be able to leave the right stick and to know that the quad will not smash into the ground.
Thanks for the video and the tips, guys. I have lost FOUR Hubsan x4's over the last six months due to loss of orientation and the ensuing loss of control. Go to high, lose orientation, the wind takes it some more, and kiss it goodbye. Orientation and control are EVERYTHING when learning how to fly MR's. Thanks again.
Just sent this to my professor. I helped him run a 3d printed multirotor competition and this would be useful for the next time we run the competition.
Thanks a ton for the great vid. I just received a Hubsan X4 today so I'll be putting all your tips to use! I really enjoy your channel and Thanks again for all of your great work and I always look forward to every new episode Flite Test....
Great video guys!!! I have been "seriously" looking into a quadcopter since about 2weeks ago, and I watched a ton over your videos over the last few days. Yesterday I jumped in with both feet and bought a Spektrum DX6 and Nano QX...So much fun! Only flew it in the house for the first time yesterday...some advanced mode. Now with this video I have some homework to do to improve. Keep up the good work. And hopefully I'll be graduating up to FPV not too long from now. CHEERS!!!
GPS and attitude mode saved me a bunch learning to fly! If you loose orientation just let go maintain throttle figure out which way it's pointed and go again no crash involved!!!
Really great video; thank you! Just started flying this week and I am still at the hovering mode, and some simple forward and back movements. Thanks again!
That was a great video! I was about to ask you to do more beginners video and you came with this! This is so enlightening for beginners like me! Thanks Flite Test, I really enjoyed the video.
I remember watching this a while back ago. Recently, I picked up a little micro quadrotor. It really is a joy to fly around, although I still need to work a little bit on keeping good control of it when it's oriented differently.
Great video! I'm a few months i with multirotors. I started with the Syma X1 (Bumble Bee edition). After that I went with a Flamewheel (prebuilt). I've built my first mutlirotor using a Titan Airframe. These tips are spot on.
This is excellent. I really enjoy the content you guys produce. As a beginner myself I intuitively followed pretty much the same steps since they are probably the ones you naturally progress in. One thing that has aided my no end with orientation on my 250 quad is installing LED strips! Green on the back arms, red and blue on the front arms. Can see them from a good distance which does wonders to inspire confidence when starting out flying. (I have started out with auto level on the KK though...).
I very recently bought a hubsan q4 the really small quadcopter and I've had a blast learning to fly it around the house from room to room. Maybe some time in the future I'll get a bigger one and strap my gopro to it. The tips on this video were helpful, I've been mostly avoiding using the rudder as the elevation stick tends to have a mind of its own when moved left or right.
Thank you for the great tips. I have wanted to build one for a while but needed some starting points to begin to build and some exercises to practice with the multirotor.
I got my first quad this past week. It was the Bladerunner Atom. I broke it before the third charge ran out LOL! It is very fragile, for me at least. I went out today and got a litehawk high roller and it is so much more forgiving!
YYYEEESSS! Now I get to see awesome FPV videos (the FPV footage of the Box-O-Copter by the way, was *beautiful*) AND get to learn how to fly one of these after I build one! Oh yeah!
I learned to fly exactly as you suggested on a nanocopter. Ended up buying propellers by the dozen. In the local hobby shop they recommended a simulator! Then when I bought the DJI Phantom 2+ ver. 3.0 it was so easy to fly that I was finally able to concentrate on composition, instead of the instability problems with the bird. The addition of inertial navigation, GPS, and the flux compass was as Winston Churchill put it, the foundation of all. After I get a few hours on my Phantom, I will buy the Inspire one.
Dave McIntyre Make sure you do your homework on the Inspire! As awesome as it is, they are having teething problems, MANY runaway problems! But it does look like a very nice camera platform
I love this video. I share it with all my new quad friends. It's helped me a lot. I'm starting a new channel, and uploading my videos over the next few days! Thanks for helping me suck less!
This video is amazingly helpfull, I will admit that my "first"quadcopter was one i built in Kerbal Space Program, and my actual 1st quad was a DJI Phantom 2 Vision, love your videos, keep up the good work guys!
This video is the best I've seen for learning to fly drones. I wish I'd found it a couple months ago. I've flown RC more than 50 years and drones are like starting over. Ps the arrow would have worked better if you had attached it close to the front of the arrow. Then it would weather vane.
Thanks for the video, I've just learnt the hover, moving backwards and forwards and side to side and was wondering what to do next. Now I know. Thanks very much for the info. I've started with the Walkera Ladybird. Its great.
Great video guys. I started with helicopters, then quads and some planes along the way. I agree the Blade Nano QX is a perfect first multirotor. I have talked several friends into buying one and start in the rc hobby. Other good starters are the Traxxas QR1, Helimax 1SQ, Blade MQX and maybe the tiny ProtoX (which is fun, but actually not what I would recommend starting on). I own all of them. Now I've built 4 multirotors including the Knuckle H Quad from FT. Looking forward to seeing you guys at FliteFest.
Excellent tutorial. I loved the steps you proposed to improve your flying skills. Keep up with these introductory tutorials. You are bringing a lot of people into this hobby by being humble and showing affordable and practical ways to start, without having to submit yourself to "impatient gurus" or being dependent only by sales people that most likely will have biased suggestions on what you should really get (based on what they have in stock or profitability). I value each cent that I spent, and flitest is a reliable source making my decisions. P.S. Alex, did you consider making shampoo commercials ? You definitely have talent ! :-)
I like the walking the dog tip. Instead of chasing the quad around. I would send the quad out and back, Then turn 90 degrees(both the quad and myself) and send it out and back, then turn back the other way until I was able to go out back, left, back, right, back. After a while, I didn't need to turn my body and then I connected the different sections before coming back. I kinda like the stabilization for new flyers. Even that Nano QX has limiting and self leveling. It sure makes learning much easier when you can let go of the stick and slowly land it.
Excellent Video. I have been struggling to learn how to fly and this gives me some practical ways to get started. I also really like the view of the sticks when shot this video, this really helps a beginner what to expect. I have probably been over reacting with my sticks as well.
It was a good lesson guys ! Thank you, I just started this hobby with my first quad :) I can hover, can do front and back runs, but still cant do a proper yaw turn or circle. Sadly loosing my orientation :/ , but im training hard :). Cant wait to master multirotors and buy faster quad !
Having recently (few months ago) gotten into multirotors with no previous RC experience I'd say that unless you have a massive open space without any people for miles it's a bit insane to fly acro to start with. Flying in acro means being constantly on the ball. If you lose your focus for a moment the model will be far away in whatever direction you overcorrected for and you'll have no idea what way around it is. At which point you'll shit your pants and forget to kill the throttle. If you're lucky it'll smack into a hedge or something.. if you're unlucky you'll be wishing you hadn't gone acro pretty quick.. With the basic auto level on something like the KK you can get up, hover, go forwards backwards, spin around etc on your first flight without too much stress. You can then get used to mixing the inputs to do banking turns etc. There is a difference between the stabilisation stuff that KK, MultiWii etc have and the GPS etc assisted flight that the Phantom type products have. The hand holding the Phantom does is probably a good thing considering some of the people that buy those things.
This is awesome because I just bought my first quad eariler. I got a WLToys V959 Quadcopter -Future Battleship Spy drone. (mouthfull that is.) It was 50 bucks, came with a camera and controller. I figure it's probably worth it, because the controller has a "newbie" mode that limits input to 40%, with adjustable input from 40 to 100% of normal. It looks like a lot of fun, can't wait to try it out!
Awesome tips guys! The learning curve is really a learning ladder! I lost orientation big time when I was practicing patterns when I first started. I didn't have a ton of batteries or time when I started so I got a simulator and quickly learned I had zero skills flying in every direction but tail end. I still practice though... Something else that is pretty darn cool is IOC. Pixhawk/APM, Devo-M and Naza-M has this. I remember crashing from switching it on accidentally or switching it on purposely and not clear of what it does and crashing (Walkera X350 Pro). After I learned what it was and how to use it, WOW! I engage it instead of failsafe when I loss orientation going a little too far to see the orientation. These craft look large on the ground. But once 100 feet up and 200 feet out it hard to tell. It works like a charm! I know quite a few pilots and I'm the only who uses it and even practice in IOC. I'll burn a few batteries just in IOC. It's great for certain special shots too. Oh, once in a while it may screw your head up for a moment while practicing too! :)
This video would be so helpful to me 1 year and an half ago when I first started... I didn't even knew what control (throttle, ruder, pitch an roll) to put in what stick. Really good video, although I would say you are better off flying it with the wind in your back, but with nothing around you. If the wind blows strong and you can't control it, let it crash away from you, not in your face. I started with a big quad and hexa, but got used to Mode 2, and it is really hard to change to Mode 1. I'd say, start with stabilize mode, not gps or auto level, but not with acro/manual either. That way, it will be easier to learn (it will keep itself upright), and you can get it to acro later without much problem.
Thanks for making this video and encouraging me to start learning to fly using rudder. I got an Ares Ethos QX 130 for a trainer (kinda wish I had gotten a qx nano or similar but really the ethos flies really well even in wind). Since I got it in January I taught myself to fly it indoors while building my H-quad, only about a 4ft envelope between the top of furniture and the basement ceiling. I always kept the nose pointed away from me. Its a quad w no camera so why bother turning right? You really encouraged me to start using rudder so I have started practicing doing controlled circles in both directions. Even added some figure 8's
Nice video! Here is my two cents. As someone who went through a learning curve on multi-rotors and having bought several models from Syma X1 (hobby toys) to Phantom 2 Vision+ (which I consider an excellent flying camera for my needs), I think the advanced flight stabilization features are here to stay and I believe that modern flight controllers with auto attitude and levelling is going to be the norm. It's the constant march of technology. The Phantoms give you the option of disengaging auto-attitude and auto-levelling as needed for the photo shoot. But practically speaking, although I can fly it like that why would I bother? Let the computer and sensors do the nitty gritty stuff, while I concentrate on camera and supervise and execute a flight plan. If I spotted things going funny, I can take over. Heck recently I didn't even directly fly my system, I needed to do an aerial survey, and I just used the Phantom Vision's autonomous system to fly a prescribed waypoint circuit. It was much more effective than trying to do it manually, and let me concentrate on the video capture while supervising the aircraft's status.
I didn't learn this way. My first flight, I popped it up and checked the control axis. Checked the different modes and the turned off the transmitter to check return to home ( if equipped.) and landed. Then I put on the goggles and flew around the RC airfield between the bushes and the trees. I found it all so very intuitive. I crashed once of my own error when on 5.8ghz and flew behind some dirt. Just tilt it forwards till you almost can't see where you are going and use the power for altitude. My buddy insisted that we fly non Fpv first. He said he wanted to get used to flying it first then put on the goggles. I skipped this step with no ill effects. ( and I'm faster) :-)) Off topic: I don't fly near people or temples. I don't fly near gov installations or military property and I fly low because that is the most fun. I don't fly near airports or search and rescue efforts. I abide my rules cause I want this to be legal for a long time.
They say that you should begin by learning on small quads first, and also with autostabilization off. I know that the Nano QX has the ability to turn off the stabilization, but are there any other more affordable options out there?
This video would have came in really handy 7 months ago for me lol. My first multy was the Nano, after that, I bumped up to the 180QX, which I ended up crashing into a tree due to me not having full control of the aircraft and crippling myself with the auto level as well as the stability mode which did not give me the full motion needed to save the craft in time. After that I bumped up to the 350qx as I was learning to do flips and stuff in agility mode with the second 180 I had purchased. Needless to say, that ended up badly, destroyed the 350qx and had to purchase a second one because I put faith in the GPS and Compass system which failed and got the thing to crash because I wasn't completely skilled enough to recover since I didn't know how to fly w/o the full help of the safe technology. Now, 1 Nano, 2 180QX and 2 350QX later, I can say that learning how to fly w/o the self/auto leveling and restrictions of the SAFE technology would have probably saved me a lot of $ and a lot of frustration and sadness. Now I know how to fly w/o those aids and I'm moving on to build my very first (and hopefully only) F550 Firewheel.
I like flying my Estes ProtoX. Small and great to fly and works well inside the house. I have a little larger Quad Copter that is OK but the Proto X is a great little practice Quad. I still LOVE to Fly my Phantom 2 Vision plus but the ProtoX is a Blast too!
I had my doubts about the Proto X, but I have slammed this thing more times than I care to count and it just keeps taking it. I have put at least 250 flights on this thing and have yet to even lose a motor ... plenty of blades ...( they are tiny ) when you lose one they are hard to find,fortunately they are dirt cheap.
I, i bought a quattro copter last week and try time and time again to make it fly straight but can't, but since i watched your video 'How to' i did the exercise you suggest and now i can fly my quattrocopter in a 'S' patern easily, thanks guys for helping me, cheer ;0)
This video is Flite Test at its finest: Education. I.e., advancing the hobby by providing basic advice to beginners.
Don't get me wrong; I love the "Challenge" and "Lets Fly" episodes, but those are just entertainment. They make beginners WANT to fly. Education teaches beginners HOW to fly.
Good work!
Thanks! We try to have a healthy blend of both.
+Jack2Japan This is dead on. As a beginner, I love watching all of the crazy stuff for inspiration. But their beginner-focused vids communicate a lot of solid info and advice with great production values, making it fun to watch.
Fantastic entry level video to fly multirotors. My wife has been flying the Nano QX since last fall and she still got some great tips from watching this video. She will be building her first mini h quad soon and very excited to learn everything she can from scratch-building, soldering and tuning. Thank you all again for being such a positive influence on this hobby.
This is probably the best educational video I have ever seen for everyone who wants to start off learning to fly correctly. I DID NOT have any fancy quantization gear on my first $29 dollar quad. Thank you so much guys!
I am SO happy you're teaching new people to learn without the giant handicap of auto-level. Better pilots all around will come from learning how to fly these things the right way. Buying a Phantom as your first multi is a terrible idea so I'm also happy you touched on that.
Actually it's not a terrible idea (thats an exaggeration). The Phantom has a Manual mode so it could work just the same as any other multi rotor. I've met plenty of people who have used a phantom as their first and have had no problems.
resellworld The point is the majority of people won't actually do that. Not to mention there is exceptions to every rule.
You could drive a Model A or a Tesla. Most would pick the Tesla over the Model A. I do not need to know how to drive the Model A to Drive a Tesla and in fact the controls are not close to the same for anyone that has driven an old car, controls are not close to what is on a new car other than the steering wheel. So I see no problem with starting out with a Phantom.
***** What about all the videos where the barometer fails due to temperature or light making them get stuck in the air. Then IF the pilot even dared enter the dreaded "manual" mode, he is now completely out of control and heading for the crowd of spectators.
There are quite a few videos of this on TH-cam. It happens and the pilots should at least know how the basic controls work in manual mode before flying more then a few feet from the ground.
All rotary wing aircraft are unstable. I do agree that it does make sense to learn to fly a multi-roter aircraft with one of the many available micro's or mini's available. I do have to disagree very much with the bias against using these aircraft that have sophisticated flight control systems. There is still a large learning curve but what you will learn faster is that it does not take large stick movements to make corrections.
My background is ROV's. One of the jobs we had to do was diver support. Early ROV's did not have too much in the way of auto controls. We were lucky if we had auto heading and auto depth. The flight controllers used in the hobby today are quantum leaps more capable. These very same electronics are now being used to control very expensive and sophisticated vehicles. Unlike multi-roters ROV's are very stable. When teaching new pilots we tell them when first getting into trouble let go of the control stick. This is something you cannot do with a multi-roter without a flight controller.
The fact is there really is no reason these days to fly without flight controller assistance unless you want to do things with it that cannot be done with the flight controller engaged. Almost all flight controllers have various modes that remove the amount of assistance given. Therefore learning to fly a multi can be done in stages where the danger of being overloaded is reduced and the probability of success is increased.
You have made a lot of beginner videos, but now we are ready for some expert series. Your videos learnt me everything i know about the rc hobby.
I've been trying to get friends involved in multi-rotor and my training has been "ad hoc" at best. This video REALLY helped me learn some tricks and tips that I can use to make my teaching more structured and, hopefully, make it less confusing and frustrating for the students.
Many thanks for a great video and remember, safe flying is simply keeping the pointy end forward and the shiny side up.
This video made me feel so much better about NOT flying orientation yet.
Just started walking the dog, but didn't realize I was doing these steps naturally as a real progression of skills, I just doing what I'm feeling confident with right now.
Who knew it would be what you are suggesting?
Awesome. Love this hobby. Thanks guys.
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Made the orientation breakthrough and NOW things are getting really fun! Thanks again folks!
flitetest. guys I have been subscribed to you for a long time. I just want to say thanks it was your videos they got me into multirotors a couple years ago and now I couldn't imagine a hobby without fpv. your patience in training and all you are free knowledge have really helped me go from a noob to understanding what it really means to build your own multi-rotor in fly. I've built several now over the years, and my latest Buy which now looking back I should have bought your anycopter but it's a Walkera Runner 250 and I got to save these guys build one hell of a quad. I wish you would do a review on it because I'm tearing through trails that probably 35 miles an hour all I did was put better gemfan's on it and for a $200 investment it's a weapon. the reason I'm writing this is because it's all because of you guys thanks for getting me into it. and I really want to say I appreciate all your videos and patience you guys truly are the best and it really shows that you love the hobby I can imagine TH-cam without you guys now. thanks for everything
Frank Central Florida...
This video could not have come at a better time. I've build a medium quad this winter/spring, and was very worried how I would start flying it without experience. I did not want to learn bad habits, so I was a bit scared. And then...FLITE TEST to the rescue! Once again, you guys are great. Ok, I'm starting to miss David, cause all of you together had great chemistry, but I'm more of a fan of FLITE TEST day after day!
Thanks!
Thank you guys for putting this video out! I''m so glad to see you guys showing some basic steps for beginner pilots, and especially emphasizing some simple safety measures like safe places and knowing when to cut throttle. So glad to see you guys working so hard to keep this hobby awesome!
Thanks guys. I was beginning to think I just lacked the ability to ever get it. But after following your advice in this video, it's like a light just turned on. Finally it's more fun than work to fly. Thanks again
I wish I watched this video when I first started, if it wasn't for the love of flying I would have been frustrated a given up. Watching a multirotor in flight under awesome control is the most amazingly beautiful sight in the world. I just jumped straight in and flew, a multicopter with blade guards like the udi818a is awesome because you almost never break a blade. This hobby has so much growth that what I'm doing with multirotors now amazes even myself.
I just got a lite hawk storm. And I've only got about two hours of time on it. This is perfect. Thanks so much guys! Keep up the good work!
Great video guys! I've been teaching myself multi rotors for the past 6 months. Once I turned off all the "assistance" I immediately started to become a better pilot. The training wheels were definitely holding me back.
I'm in Toledo OH and hope I can make it to Flite Fest.
Again another great video you guys rock!
Learning to fly as these guys show is probably the best way and don't be afraid to crash. I'm about three weeks into flying quadricopters and had originally got discouraged with my Blade Glimpse and got a Parrot AR.Drone to help.
While the handicap was nice, it wasn't teaching me the things I needed, like being able to hover without assistance. Don't be afraid, fly the quad and have fun. My Glimpse is pretty much a version of the nano and is equally indestructible when it comes to crashes trust me I know :)
A lot of good advice on this video and my appreciate of RC has grown exponentially since starting. I never knew I could have as much fun as I do now with RC aircraft.
I am practicing your techniques every day. This is one great video Alex and Josh.
Thank you for helping us new guys.
Great video. The tip to keep the quad facing forward made all the difference!
Took me almost 3 months to comfortably fly fast with full cyclic and doing circle, but only with frame/kit and radio that i am familiar with. Training is worth it, you enjoy your craft more.
holy crap! full of tips and tricks.... oh the envy i have over everyone who is just starting out... you guys got it easy thanks to flight test!
Your channel is like that ally where people with rare hobbies goes to. Feels elite class........
The perfect time, im finishing my first multirotor next week. Thanks flite test.
Had my first orientation loss yesterday. I build Davids Tricopter. Great video guys, this helps a lot where to start.
I learned to fly a multirotor on a 3-axis gyro Syma X1, which taught me heaps about wind behavior, hover, when to kill the throttle, etc. I realized watching this video that I did my homework, and that a strong common sense and warmed-up thumbs (or fingers for pinchers) before flying a bigger platform always loosen up. I'd say that the flight characteristics of, say a Hubsan 107-series wherein the frame has no air canopy underneath (syma x1 and wl 9x9 types can rely on more updraft for lift) would be a great warm-up before a DJI or x350 pro type of flying box. I'm glad Flite Test tube exists: it's one of the best places you can learn off of apart from what you've got in front of you. There have been at least a couple of times I might have crashed a heavy x350pro if I didn't hear some haunting tips in my head from Josh and Alex right at the moment lol.
Another great video. I am using the good flying summer months to get about a dozen airplane projects in the air (most of them swappables) and then use the fall/winter to go indoors to pick up multicopters. This video comes in handy - thanks guys.
I have to say that I 'learned' to fly my selfbuild quadcopter with autolevel. And I do not regret it. It allowed me to fly eights and courves within 5 minutes. The difficult thing about autolevel is that you have to understand what the flightcontroller is doing exactly. You have to know that it tries to hold a certain angle if you put the stick into a certain position. That means that stick at center means that the copter will level, but it will not hover on the spot. So you still have to tilt the copter into the opposite direction to brake, you have to fly faster circles like with a regular helicopter to let the look nice.
I really enjoy the autolevel feature. When I tried to fly 50cm singlerotor-helis about 3 years ago, it was always more scary than fun. I was always afraid to crash. It feels so much better to be able to leave the right stick and to know that the quad will not smash into the ground.
Always great tips and videos guys. FliteTest is my go to channel for UAV stuff. Now I need to practice my dog walking.
Thanks for the video and the tips, guys. I have lost FOUR Hubsan x4's over the last six months due to loss of orientation and the ensuing loss of control. Go to high, lose orientation, the wind takes it some more, and kiss it goodbye.
Orientation and control are EVERYTHING when learning how to fly MR's. Thanks again.
Just sent this to my professor. I helped him run a 3d printed multirotor competition and this would be useful for the next time we run the competition.
Thanks a ton for the great vid. I just received a Hubsan X4 today so I'll be putting all your tips to use! I really enjoy your channel and Thanks again for all of your great work and I always look forward to every new episode Flite Test....
Really enjoyed this tuition. I'm about to get my first quadcopter and will remember these tips. Cheers.
Thank you I am just getting into multi-rotors and this video is exactly what I needed
Great video guys!!! I have been "seriously" looking into a quadcopter since about 2weeks ago, and I watched a ton over your videos over the last few days. Yesterday I jumped in with both feet and bought a Spektrum DX6 and Nano QX...So much fun! Only flew it in the house for the first time yesterday...some advanced mode. Now with this video I have some homework to do to improve. Keep up the good work. And hopefully I'll be graduating up to FPV not too long from now. CHEERS!!!
GPS and attitude mode saved me a bunch learning to fly! If you loose orientation just let go maintain throttle figure out which way it's pointed and go again no crash involved!!!
Really great video; thank you! Just started flying this week and I am still at the hovering mode, and some simple forward and back movements. Thanks again!
I agree that learning the fundamentals of multi-rotor flying first is the best way to go.
I took the shortcut, but plan to also learn the basics.
Hey hey fellas! Thank you for this video! I just wanted to say THANK YOU for all the videos you guys post I'm a big fan.
That was a great video! I was about to ask you to do more beginners video and you came with this! This is so enlightening for beginners like me! Thanks Flite Test, I really enjoyed the video.
I remember watching this a while back ago. Recently, I picked up a little micro quadrotor. It really is a joy to fly around, although I still need to work a little bit on keeping good control of it when it's oriented differently.
Thanks Flite Test crew, really enjoyed the video. This is how I learned before I knew of stabilization. Keep em coming!
Thanks Josh & Alex for answering my request. Great videos.
Great video!
I'm a few months i with multirotors. I started with the Syma X1 (Bumble Bee edition). After that I went with a Flamewheel (prebuilt). I've built my first mutlirotor using a Titan Airframe.
These tips are spot on.
Thanks! I needed that! You guys are "On Time... In Time...With Time!"
Rudder.rudder.rudder. yes sir. Great show josh and alex.
This is excellent. I really enjoy the content you guys produce. As a beginner myself I intuitively followed pretty much the same steps since they are probably the ones you naturally progress in. One thing that has aided my no end with orientation on my 250 quad is installing LED strips!
Green on the back arms, red and blue on the front arms. Can see them from a good distance which does wonders to inspire confidence when starting out flying.
(I have started out with auto level on the KK though...).
Missing David on flitetest.. This episode would have been perfect for him. I love watching flitetest. Thanks for the great content guys
I very recently bought a hubsan q4 the really small quadcopter and I've had a blast learning to fly it around the house from room to room. Maybe some time in the future I'll get a bigger one and strap my gopro to it.
The tips on this video were helpful, I've been mostly avoiding using the rudder as the elevation stick tends to have a mind of its own when moved left or right.
This is definitely a good video for Newbies to view. Nice job guys! Thanks.
Thank you for the great tips. I have wanted to build one for a while but needed some starting points to begin to build and some exercises to practice with the multirotor.
This is a great video. Please make a video on PID settings for a tricopter. It will be very helpful.
Yes, please!!!
this^^!!
FliteTest please do this
I got my first quad this past week. It was the Bladerunner Atom. I broke it before the third charge ran out LOL! It is very fragile, for me at least. I went out today and got a litehawk high roller and it is so much more forgiving!
YYYEEESSS! Now I get to see awesome FPV videos (the FPV footage of the Box-O-Copter by the way, was *beautiful*) AND get to learn how to fly one of these after I build one! Oh yeah!
I've been waiting for something like this! Awesome job guys!!!
Thanks FliteTest, this is an excellent video for guys like me just starting out. :)
about time you guys made a how to fly a quad keep it up guys
Time for a build video!! Great video guys.. As always.
I learned to fly exactly as you suggested on a nanocopter. Ended up buying propellers by the dozen. In the local hobby shop they recommended a simulator! Then when I bought the DJI Phantom 2+ ver. 3.0 it was so easy to fly that I was finally able to concentrate on composition, instead of the instability problems with the bird. The addition of inertial navigation, GPS, and the flux compass was as Winston Churchill put it, the foundation of all. After I get a few hours on my Phantom, I will buy the Inspire one.
Dave McIntyre Make sure you do your homework on the Inspire! As awesome as it is, they are having teething problems, MANY runaway problems! But it does look like a very nice camera platform
Why not build things yourself
I love this video. I share it with all my new quad friends. It's helped me a lot. I'm starting a new channel, and uploading my videos over the next few days! Thanks for helping me suck less!
You guys are trucking awesome. And I almost took out my eye because I was building a tricopter and it flew up to my face.
I built a QAV400 as my first quad recently and I've been doing this myself so Im glad I'm doing the right thing.
This video is amazingly helpfull, I will admit that my "first"quadcopter was one i built in Kerbal Space Program, and my actual 1st quad was a DJI Phantom 2 Vision, love your videos, keep up the good work guys!
Great video guys, really great information and great formation. Loved it. Thanks!
This video is the best I've seen for learning to fly drones. I wish I'd found it a couple months ago. I've flown RC more than 50 years and drones are like starting over. Ps the arrow would have worked better if you had attached it close to the front of the arrow. Then it would weather vane.
Great video for those just starting, everything is good information!
Thanks for the video, I've just learnt the hover, moving backwards and forwards and side to side and was wondering what to do next. Now I know. Thanks very much for the info. I've started with the Walkera Ladybird. Its great.
Great job. This was just what I needed. Thanks for all the good info.
Yes!! Thank you so much for this video! I've been looking for this from FT for a long time!
Some great tips, thanks!
I have been learning for 6 months now with various Hubsan products and the EYE One Xtreme, I still feel like a n00b!
Great video guys. I started with helicopters, then quads and some planes along the way. I agree the Blade Nano QX is a perfect first multirotor. I have talked several friends into buying one and start in the rc hobby. Other good starters are the Traxxas QR1, Helimax 1SQ, Blade MQX and maybe the tiny ProtoX (which is fun, but actually not what I would recommend starting on). I own all of them. Now I've built 4 multirotors including the Knuckle H Quad from FT. Looking forward to seeing you guys at FliteFest.
Very good video! It would be great to have a video on the next level of progression from this, ie past the basics.
It's so wet here in Perth (Australia) atm.... looking forward to some better weather so I can get back out flying again!
Excellent tutorial. I loved the steps you proposed to improve your flying skills. Keep up with these introductory tutorials. You are bringing a lot of people into this hobby by being humble and showing affordable and practical ways to start, without having to submit yourself to "impatient gurus" or being dependent only by sales people that most likely will have biased suggestions on what you should really get (based on what they have in stock or profitability). I value each cent that I spent, and flitest is a reliable source making my decisions.
P.S. Alex, did you consider making shampoo commercials ? You definitely have talent ! :-)
I like the walking the dog tip. Instead of chasing the quad around. I would send the quad out and back, Then turn 90 degrees(both the quad and myself) and send it out and back, then turn back the other way until I was able to go out back, left, back, right, back. After a while, I didn't need to turn my body and then I connected the different sections before coming back.
I kinda like the stabilization for new flyers. Even that Nano QX has limiting and self leveling. It sure makes learning much easier when you can let go of the stick and slowly land it.
Awesome tips! You all make it look so easy, but it does take some effort to be able to get on this horse!
I am so glad you did this video. I just built a quad and I got sliced up pretty bad
A great vid guys. Lots of take homes for both learning heli's and multi rotors there.
Excellent Video. I have been struggling to learn how to fly and this gives me some practical ways to get started. I also really like the view of the sticks when shot this video, this really helps a beginner what to expect. I have probably been over reacting with my sticks as well.
Just ordered my bat bone! Thank you for all that you guys do and for providing a Christ centered influence in the RC community!
Great video, but what's up with the motor moving from side to side at around the 9:28 mark?
That's the 'rudder' in action.
John Conroy
Correct. On a Tricopter you need one motor to be able to tilt to compensate torque and rotate the copter around it's yaw axis.
It was a good lesson guys ! Thank you, I just started this hobby with my first quad :) I can hover, can do front and back runs, but still cant do a proper yaw turn or circle. Sadly loosing my orientation :/ , but im training hard :). Cant wait to master multirotors and buy faster quad !
Having recently (few months ago) gotten into multirotors with no previous RC experience I'd say that unless you have a massive open space without any people for miles it's a bit insane to fly acro to start with. Flying in acro means being constantly on the ball. If you lose your focus for a moment the model will be far away in whatever direction you overcorrected for and you'll have no idea what way around it is. At which point you'll shit your pants and forget to kill the throttle. If you're lucky it'll smack into a hedge or something.. if you're unlucky you'll be wishing you hadn't gone acro pretty quick.. With the basic auto level on something like the KK you can get up, hover, go forwards backwards, spin around etc on your first flight without too much stress. You can then get used to mixing the inputs to do banking turns etc. There is a difference between the stabilisation stuff that KK, MultiWii etc have and the GPS etc assisted flight that the Phantom type products have. The hand holding the Phantom does is probably a good thing considering some of the people that buy those things.
Fantastic Episode but I must say I loved that Arrow :D
This is awesome because I just bought my first quad eariler. I got a WLToys V959 Quadcopter -Future Battleship Spy drone. (mouthfull that is.) It was 50 bucks, came with a camera and controller. I figure it's probably worth it, because the controller has a "newbie" mode that limits input to 40%, with adjustable input from 40 to 100% of normal. It looks like a lot of fun, can't wait to try it out!
You are correct. In fact it turns out that the Phantom 3 will give you most if not all capabilities of the Inspire without the additional expense.
Excellent tips !! Helped me a lot.
Awesome tips guys! The learning curve is really a learning ladder!
I lost orientation big time when I was practicing patterns when I first started. I didn't have a ton of batteries or time
when I started so I got a simulator and quickly learned I had zero skills flying in every direction but tail end.
I still practice though...
Something else that is pretty darn cool is IOC. Pixhawk/APM, Devo-M and Naza-M has this. I remember crashing from switching it on accidentally or switching it on purposely and not clear of what it does and crashing (Walkera X350 Pro).
After I learned what it was and how to use it, WOW!
I engage it instead of failsafe when I loss orientation going a little too far to see the orientation. These craft look large on the
ground. But once 100 feet up and 200 feet out it hard to tell. It works like a charm!
I know quite a few pilots and I'm the only who uses it and even practice in IOC. I'll burn a few batteries just in IOC.
It's great for certain special shots too.
Oh, once in a while it may screw your head up for a moment while practicing too! :)
Great video guys, how about making a video about one of the more though issues with multirotors?, setting the PID values.
I found this episode just the thing I needed to know. Thanks guys from an old newby.
Olf Art
really good tips for flying copters, no matter if heli or quad. thx. that definitely is a really good beginners guide :) *thumps up*
Just getting started...thanks for the tips!
This video would be so helpful to me 1 year and an half ago when I first started... I didn't even knew what control (throttle, ruder, pitch an roll) to put in what stick. Really good video, although I would say you are better off flying it with the wind in your back, but with nothing around you. If the wind blows strong and you can't control it, let it crash away from you, not in your face.
I started with a big quad and hexa, but got used to Mode 2, and it is really hard to change to Mode 1.
I'd say, start with stabilize mode, not gps or auto level, but not with acro/manual either. That way, it will be easier to learn (it will keep itself upright), and you can get it to acro later without much problem.
100% recomend the hubsan x4 for a first. its tiny fast and very good. i fly it outdoors and it hold against super strong wind too
Thanks for making this video and encouraging me to start learning to fly using rudder. I got an Ares Ethos QX 130 for a trainer (kinda wish I had gotten a qx nano or similar but really the ethos flies really well even in wind). Since I got it in January I taught myself to fly it indoors while building my H-quad, only about a 4ft envelope between the top of furniture and the basement ceiling. I always kept the nose pointed away from me. Its a quad w no camera so why bother turning right? You really encouraged me to start using rudder so I have started practicing doing controlled circles in both directions. Even added some figure 8's
Nice video!
Here is my two cents. As someone who went through a learning curve on multi-rotors and having bought several models from Syma X1 (hobby toys) to Phantom 2 Vision+ (which I consider an excellent flying camera for my needs), I think the advanced flight stabilization features are here to stay and I believe that modern flight controllers with auto attitude and levelling is going to be the norm. It's the constant march of technology.
The Phantoms give you the option of disengaging auto-attitude and auto-levelling as needed for the photo shoot. But practically speaking, although I can fly it like that why would I bother? Let the computer and sensors do the nitty gritty stuff, while I concentrate on camera and supervise and execute a flight plan. If I spotted things going funny, I can take over.
Heck recently I didn't even directly fly my system, I needed to do an aerial survey, and I just used the Phantom Vision's autonomous system to fly a prescribed waypoint circuit. It was much more effective than trying to do it manually, and let me concentrate on the video capture while supervising the aircraft's status.
I didn't learn this way. My first flight, I popped it up and checked the control axis. Checked the different modes and the turned off the transmitter to check return to home ( if equipped.) and landed. Then I put on the goggles and flew around the RC airfield between the bushes and the trees. I found it all so very intuitive. I crashed once of my own error when on 5.8ghz and flew behind some dirt. Just tilt it forwards till you almost can't see where you are going and use the power for altitude. My buddy insisted that we fly non Fpv first. He said he wanted to get used to flying it first then put on the goggles. I skipped this step with no ill effects. ( and I'm faster) :-))
Off topic:
I don't fly near people or temples. I don't fly near gov installations or military property and I fly low because that is the most fun. I don't fly near airports or search and rescue efforts. I abide my rules cause I want this to be legal for a long time.
perfect, the best ft video for a long time. thanks a lot guys, this is just what I need to know.
They say that you should begin by learning on small quads first, and also with autostabilization off. I know that the Nano QX has the ability to turn off the stabilization, but are there any other more affordable options out there?
Great video, I love the channel and the knowledge you guys share!!!! thanks so much!!
This video would have came in really handy 7 months ago for me lol.
My first multy was the Nano, after that, I bumped up to the 180QX, which I ended up crashing into a tree due to me not having full control of the aircraft and crippling myself with the auto level as well as the stability mode which did not give me the full motion needed to save the craft in time. After that I bumped up to the 350qx as I was learning to do flips and stuff in agility mode with the second 180 I had purchased. Needless to say, that ended up badly, destroyed the 350qx and had to purchase a second one because I put faith in the GPS and Compass system which failed and got the thing to crash because I wasn't completely skilled enough to recover since I didn't know how to fly w/o the full help of the safe technology.
Now, 1 Nano, 2 180QX and 2 350QX later, I can say that learning how to fly w/o the self/auto leveling and restrictions of the SAFE technology would have probably saved me a lot of $ and a lot of frustration and sadness. Now I know how to fly w/o those aids and I'm moving on to build my very first (and hopefully only) F550 Firewheel.
I like flying my Estes ProtoX. Small and great to fly and works well inside the house. I have a little larger Quad Copter that is OK but the Proto X is a great little practice Quad. I still LOVE to Fly my Phantom 2 Vision plus but the ProtoX is a Blast too!
Same here :D
ProtoX rocks!
Me too. Its awesome
I had my doubts about the Proto X, but I have slammed this thing more times than I care to count and it just keeps taking it. I have put at least 250 flights on this thing and have yet to even lose a motor ... plenty of blades ...( they are tiny ) when you lose one they are hard to find,fortunately they are dirt cheap.
Absolutely. A ProtoX would be a great starter quad.
Totally Agree ... It is a durable little beast and handles well.
I, i bought a quattro copter last week and try time and time again to make it fly straight but can't, but since i watched your video 'How to' i did the exercise you suggest and now i can fly my quattrocopter in a 'S' patern easily, thanks guys for helping me, cheer ;0)