very good, thank you. felt like I actually knew something and didn't need all of this one but that's because of your previous help. I think the "auto" on the channel selection buttons in the modes tab would be a great time saver and just make INAV more polished.
You must have ESP. I just finished my first wing build with an FC tonight. I've been reading the wiki getting ready to start final setup. Thx for the video.
That video only shows a basic switch setup. For modes, you really want to be using the same RC channel for all your flight and navigation mode. This can be done in OpenTX by combining switches. But, if you’re new to this, I would recommend the INAV Fixed Wing Group OpenTX model. That basically has all you need set out for you. That can be found here inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/transmitter-models/standard-opentx-model-v3/ If you wanted to try it yourself. This video shows different methods of combining switches. th-cam.com/video/9M9aLVHPL40/w-d-xo.html My video for autolaunch goes over the setup for it and the correct procedure for launching the plane th-cam.com/video/rj_RSrXqib8/w-d-xo.html
The procedure for autolaunch is: 1. Select a basic flight mode (manual, acro, horizon, or angle) 2. Enable launch mode 3. Arm 4. Select the mode to exit to (loiter in your case) 5. Raise the throttle 6. Throw the plane 7. Have fun!
Hiya Darren. Hope you are well. I had a question .... if im in altitude hold mode, but pitch the nose up or down (so that the plane changes altitude) does the altitude change then hold once i come off the pitch stick? Or does it make the plane return to the altitude at the point at which the alt hold switch was enabled?.
If you use the elevator, I believe that it will hold the new altitude. Don’t forget that altitude hold should not be used on it’s own. It must be used with either Angle or Cruise.
@@MrD thanks for the information. So i assume in order to get alt hold... i need to have already activated angle mode? So if i have angle mode on a switch that is 'on' i can have another seperate switch that then adds alt hold to angle mode when it is switched 'on'? The reason why i ask is because i saw an andrew newton video where he doesnt have angle and just has an alt hold switch. th-cam.com/video/EbBu9LxugNk/w-d-xo.html. It looks like he didnt enable angle mode...
Yes, it's best just to have both Angle (or cruise) and Alt hold light up at the same time for a given switch position. But you can set althold on a separate switch, and only add it when you want it. I'm guessing this is what Andrew is doing. You just have to be mindful that you should only use it with Angle or Cruise. You should never use it with Manual, Acro, or Horizon. I'd probably even go so far as to add logic so that it would only activate when either Angle or Cruise are selected.
Using a Taranis X9D+ with iNav 6 and I followed everything step by step, but my SF arm switch isn't working when I switch over to iNav, and SA will only set as a 2-position switch, not 3. Sometimes when I switch back to iNav in the Rx tab it'll show the Ch5 position high, but as soon as I flip it, it goes low and stays there. If I mess with the weights I can get it to recognize the SF switch, but it won't recognize it as-is as show here. :( Any idea why?
Hello Darren, i'm gonna use the same tuning. When i activate autotune it should be in manual mode or angle? Same story as autotrim, better to have the switch manual or angle?
You should really put auto-trim and autotune on a separate switch to the flight modes. I’d actually recommend reading this guide. It will really help with tuning. inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/tuning/inav-plane-tuning-masterclass-phase-one-get-in-the-air/
@@MrD @Mr.D - Falling, with style Thank you D., it is what i did. As you said, i put mods on channel 6 and autotune/autotrim on channel . Anyway when i swtich on the autotune/autotrim which mode i should use at the same time? Thank You
Hi I am hoping you can help me, I have set up and installed a Matek 405 wing and watched your videos I have all green lights in setup pre arm, I have 10 sats I have mode set to a switch for arming I can run the motor from the motor tab in inav by using the slider but I still cannot arm the motor from the transmitter, this is now doing my head in please help. if I type status in CLI I get Thr cli. if I move my throttle trim on the tx all the way down thr changes to just cli in status.in receiver tab all controls are responding to the tx as far signal, great videos by the way I've learnt heaps but want to go fly the tbs cap2 if I can get the motor armed otherwise im just going to plug the signal directly into the rx as a last resort. Kind Regards wayne
Hi Wayne if the throttle moves correctly on the receiver page, and the motor moves with the slider on the outputs page. You don’t really need to use the throttle on the transmitter to test. It will work. It’s purposely disabled as a safety feature. If you feel you need to, make sure the prop is off. Firstly re-centre all the trims on the transmitter. Then toggle the arm switch off and on 10 times. After that, the warning triangle in the top centre ⚠️ should light up yellow. At that point, the transmitter throttle will control the motor.
@@MrD Many thanks for your reply its change I've just read the 10 x flips on your website but im sure this is not the only thing wrong i.e. I've watched your videos and cannot get lights to light up, cannot turn off the buzzer added in the mode setting despite watching the slider move to the correct position when flicking switch on tx. and auto launch will not start the motor. I have been around Cleanflight and Betaflight from very early on so setting up is not new to me but this matek 405 does not seem to be responding the way I would expect. I will try the 10 flips and come back to you and let you what happens. Again thanks for your help. Wayne
@@MrD OK I have now spent 16 hrs on this and time to go to bed, I have redone all the set up from the start and tried your toggle 10 times suggestion and still nothing??? I am at a loss as to how to start this motor to go flying.??? Any other suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Wayne
Hi Darren an update on today, have gone from v4.1 back to v4.0 and mostly working now and a bit more settled can get motor running now most of the the time, does not seem very stable the firmware ??? still cannot get the lights working is there a difference from the ws2812 and 2812 from Matek ?? still has the 3 leads. using the Matek 405se wing fc in a TBS cap2. cheers Wayne
Sorry for the late reply, I was feeling quite unwell yesterday. To be honest, it is very hard to diagnose what's going on without seeing anything. What you're describing does sound a little odd. I would have suggested trying the 10 times toggle in a non-navigation mode, and to check the arm switch range. It should work without issue. The motor would not work if you're in a navigation mode. For checking things like the motor or throws, it's always best to be in manual. Also, if you have autolaunch permanently enabled, this may interfere? I'm not 100% on that, as I only ever use it on a switch. I like to be in control. I've noticed this comment is on the modes video. Have you seen this one on setting up 4.x th-cam.com/video/6YuJjAknBsQ/w-d-xo.html ? The 4.0 vs 4.1 thing I'm am certain is a placebo. It's more likely that something has been set up slightly differently in the firmware configuration when you set up 4.0. I've seen the changes between the two, and they are identical in those aspects. I'm sure if you took a diff all from 4.0, flashed 4.1 and reinstated the diff, it would all work fine. As far as 4.1 goes, it is no more or less stable than 4.0. The main changes are for HD Zero integration, a couple of filter changes, and some updated in configurator for improving the modes page. Everything else is basically identical. LEDs can be a pain. I used to have plenty of problems with them. But then I must have changed how I was doing things as the just started working. This was back quite a few versions ago, so not a firmware issue. Now they work fine on any builds I put them on. Mateksys 2812 LEDs are WS2812; Matek just dropped the WS prefix for some reason. I have this video, maybe it will help? th-cam.com/video/RxhoKpz-uzw/w-d-xo.html
I can't get my mixes Right? I'm missing something?? Throttle on Right stick not Left. Seems like arm does nothing?. I came from drones. Radio is set for TAER have X-lite and dart 250 Matek PDB and hglrcF22 fc in I nav says everything ok? But when fire up? Help?
It won’t matter that you’re mode 1. It’s only the transmitter that deal with that. So long as iNav has the correct channel order, it will work fine. Have you checked out my other videos in that playlist? th-cam.com/play/PLtuty5zAsZ_aRUdASwMPFQp2efIeR-tV0.html The first thing is to get the receiver page all working correctly, then the board alignment, then the mixer and outputs. If you flick the arm switch, nothing will happen unless you have enough satellites to arm. One thing is to make sure you have system messages enabled in your OSD. Anything blocking arming will be shown there.
Hi friend, I m now trying to make to work my new Radiomaster TX16S and the Matek F765 with Inav 3.0.1, I followed every step that you showed in your video, and its seems regarding hardware and communication between FC and Radio works, inputs, outputs and in the Inav configurator shows that everything is active, BUT, when I stuck in the modes , between ARM (ch 5, sw = SF) and ANGLE (ch6 sw= SA), no matter ANGLE is in OFF (grey zone) as soon I set ARM = ON (blue zone) the ANGLE is ON !!! what happen here ? , I proved everything, inverting channels, change channels etc etc, dont work, as soon GPS got signals, and ARM is ON, its set ON Angle too, no matter this was OFF. PLease, need little help. As I said, new Radiomaster TX16S (with last OPenTX on it) new Matek F765 and last Inav firmware on it.
Firstly, you should be careful when inverting channels on the radio; especially the first 4 channels. I'd recommend checking this video, just to make sure that the first 4 channels are correct th-cam.com/video/b1m1aSrtVCQ/w-d-xo.html Next, go to the receiver page in iNav and move your arm switch. You should only see CH 5 moving with your arm switch (SF) and CH 6 moving with your mode switch (SA). If this is not the case, there is something not right on the transmitter. If this is working correctly, go to the modes page. On the modes page, double check that the range for angle is set to CH 6. Remember to press the save button, otherwise you won't see the true results. Let me know what happens here.
thanks for quickly answer, I just confirm you that my CH 5 = SW SF just move alone when I switch SF, and the same thing when just turn CH 6 = SA, its move alone (no others channels move) in the receiver page Inav. I will take a look on your video, and I ll back , as newbie in Inav I really appreciate your tips and help. thanks again...
@@MrD Hi, after I watched your recommended video, I founded this: in my Transmmiter TX16S, page "input" the order of the 4 channels is from above TAER, and in the next page MIXES, its showing AETR, thats match with with the Inav Receiver channels bars AETR so do you think this will my problem regarding the others CH 5 and CH 6 ? thanks again... I dont have any person nearby in the RC Club that can help me.
No, that’s fine. The mixer uses the inputs by name, so the order is not important. So long as the order on the mixer page of the transmitter matches the order on the receive page of iNav, it’s fine.
Very useful, thanks. But I set the same, then when I switch to RTH, iNAV displays it as ACRO. Manual and Angle are correct though. I am using iNAV 2.8.4. Anyone know why?
hello, I'm finishing my first wing (ZOHD orbit) with the FC MATEK F405-WING, but as soon as I plug it the beeper starts beeping, the motor also and never stops beeping. I've double checked the connections and they seem ok. I'm using a DJI air unit with DJI controller, it works ok, but the beeper keeps beeping... Any ideas about the why annoying beeping? Flash with INAV 5.1.0 P.S. - the wing is a second hand buying thank you
If you're using WTF-OS on your DJI goggles. Enable System messages in the OSD. That may point to the issue that's causing the beep. If not, in configurator, go to the CLI and type status. That will return some codes that may highlight the problem causing the beep. You can check the codes at github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/%22Something%22-is-disabled----Reasons
Wish I had videos like this when I started out 🙂 Great content, Darren
Thanks Christian. Hopefully they help people get started quicker with less problems.
very good, thank you. felt like I actually knew something and didn't need all of this one but that's because of your previous help.
I think the "auto" on the channel selection buttons in the modes tab would be a great time saver and just make INAV more polished.
Definitely. I will get that feature request in. It would be really useful.
This is the video I NEEDED!!! Thanks so much!!
You're most welcome.
You legend! Needed this video for ages!
No problem at all 👍🏻
You must have ESP. I just finished my first wing build with an FC tonight. I've been reading the wiki getting ready to start final setup. Thx for the video.
No problem Jeff. There may be other videos in the playlist that can help make sure your maiden flight is a happy one. I hope it all goes well.
Takk!
Thank you very much 👍🏻
Hello Mr.D. I´ve just done what you showed us on the video. Any tips on setting up more modes and autolaunch? Thank you.
That video only shows a basic switch setup. For modes, you really want to be using the same RC channel for all your flight and navigation mode. This can be done in OpenTX by combining switches.
But, if you’re new to this, I would recommend the INAV Fixed Wing Group OpenTX model. That basically has all you need set out for you. That can be found here inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/transmitter-models/standard-opentx-model-v3/
If you wanted to try it yourself. This video shows different methods of combining switches. th-cam.com/video/9M9aLVHPL40/w-d-xo.html
My video for autolaunch goes over the setup for it and the correct procedure for launching the plane th-cam.com/video/rj_RSrXqib8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Darren thanks a lot for your tutorial i would like to put my wing in loiter after an autolaunch can i activate loiter when in acro mode thanks
The procedure for autolaunch is:
1. Select a basic flight mode (manual, acro, horizon, or angle)
2. Enable launch mode
3. Arm
4. Select the mode to exit to (loiter in your case)
5. Raise the throttle
6. Throw the plane
7. Have fun!
Hello! Can you explain how you configure several switches on transmiter to one channel in INAV (one switch position to one channel diapason?)
Sure. I just combine the switches using one of these methods. th-cam.com/video/9M9aLVHPL40/w-d-xo.html
@@MrD Thank you!
Hi
If I going to fly a flying wing with my INAV. What model should I create in the radio ? Just normal plane or a flying wing ?
Everything in the transmitter is set up as a normal plane. The mixing is done in iNav.
Hiya Darren. Hope you are well. I had a question .... if im in altitude hold mode, but pitch the nose up or down (so that the plane changes altitude) does the altitude change then hold once i come off the pitch stick? Or does it make the plane return to the altitude at the point at which the alt hold switch was enabled?.
If you use the elevator, I believe that it will hold the new altitude. Don’t forget that altitude hold should not be used on it’s own. It must be used with either Angle or Cruise.
@@MrD thanks for the information. So i assume in order to get alt hold... i need to have already activated angle mode?
So if i have angle mode on a switch that is 'on' i can have another seperate switch that then adds alt hold to angle mode when it is switched 'on'?
The reason why i ask is because i saw an andrew newton video where he doesnt have angle and just has an alt hold switch. th-cam.com/video/EbBu9LxugNk/w-d-xo.html. It looks like he didnt enable angle mode...
Yes, it's best just to have both Angle (or cruise) and Alt hold light up at the same time for a given switch position. But you can set althold on a separate switch, and only add it when you want it. I'm guessing this is what Andrew is doing. You just have to be mindful that you should only use it with Angle or Cruise. You should never use it with Manual, Acro, or Horizon. I'd probably even go so far as to add logic so that it would only activate when either Angle or Cruise are selected.
@@MrD thanks!!! Really appreciate your help
@@beefybeef1326 no problem.
Using a Taranis X9D+ with iNav 6 and I followed everything step by step, but my SF arm switch isn't working when I switch over to iNav, and SA will only set as a 2-position switch, not 3.
Sometimes when I switch back to iNav in the Rx tab it'll show the Ch5 position high, but as soon as I flip it, it goes low and stays there.
If I mess with the weights I can get it to recognize the SF switch, but it won't recognize it as-is as show here. :( Any idea why?
Hello Darren, i'm gonna use the same tuning.
When i activate autotune it should be in manual mode or angle?
Same story as autotrim, better to have the switch manual or angle?
You should really put auto-trim and autotune on a separate switch to the flight modes.
I’d actually recommend reading this guide. It will really help with tuning. inavfixedwinggroup.com/guides/tuning/inav-plane-tuning-masterclass-phase-one-get-in-the-air/
@@MrD @Mr.D - Falling, with style Thank you D., it is what i did.
As you said, i put mods on channel 6 and autotune/autotrim on channel .
Anyway when i swtich on the autotune/autotrim which mode i should use at the same time?
Thank You
Check out the link in the last reply Alfredo. It will give you all the tuning answers you need 👍🏻
@@MrD thank you D.
Love so much your video!
Great support for us
You’re welcome Alfredo. I hope you have many great flights.
Hi I am hoping you can help me, I have set up and installed a Matek 405 wing and watched your videos I have all green lights in setup pre arm, I have 10 sats I have mode set to a switch for arming I can run the motor from the motor tab in inav by using the slider but I still cannot arm the motor from the transmitter, this is now doing my head in please help. if I type status in CLI I get Thr cli. if I move my throttle trim on the tx all the way down thr changes to just cli in status.in receiver tab all controls are responding to the tx as far signal, great videos by the way I've learnt heaps but want to go fly the tbs cap2 if I can get the motor armed otherwise im just going to plug the signal directly into the rx as a last resort. Kind Regards wayne
Hi Wayne if the throttle moves correctly on the receiver page, and the motor moves with the slider on the outputs page. You don’t really need to use the throttle on the transmitter to test. It will work. It’s purposely disabled as a safety feature.
If you feel you need to, make sure the prop is off. Firstly re-centre all the trims on the transmitter. Then toggle the arm switch off and on 10 times. After that, the warning triangle in the top centre ⚠️ should light up yellow. At that point, the transmitter throttle will control the motor.
@@MrD Many thanks for your reply its change I've just read the 10 x flips on your website but im sure this is not the only thing wrong i.e. I've watched your videos and cannot get lights to light up, cannot turn off the buzzer added in the mode setting despite watching the slider move to the correct position when flicking switch on tx. and auto launch will not start the motor. I have been around Cleanflight and Betaflight from very early on so setting up is not new to me but this matek 405 does not seem to be responding the way I would expect. I will try the 10 flips and come back to you and let you what happens. Again thanks for your help. Wayne
@@MrD OK I have now spent 16 hrs on this and time to go to bed, I have redone all the set up from the start and tried your toggle 10 times suggestion and still nothing??? I am at a loss as to how to start this motor to go flying.??? Any other suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. Wayne
Hi Darren an update on today, have gone from v4.1 back to v4.0 and mostly working now and a bit more settled can get motor running now most of the the time, does not seem very stable the firmware ??? still cannot get the lights working is there a difference from the ws2812 and 2812 from Matek ?? still has the 3 leads. using the Matek 405se wing fc in a TBS cap2. cheers Wayne
Sorry for the late reply, I was feeling quite unwell yesterday.
To be honest, it is very hard to diagnose what's going on without seeing anything. What you're describing does sound a little odd. I would have suggested trying the 10 times toggle in a non-navigation mode, and to check the arm switch range. It should work without issue. The motor would not work if you're in a navigation mode. For checking things like the motor or throws, it's always best to be in manual. Also, if you have autolaunch permanently enabled, this may interfere? I'm not 100% on that, as I only ever use it on a switch. I like to be in control. I've noticed this comment is on the modes video. Have you seen this one on setting up 4.x th-cam.com/video/6YuJjAknBsQ/w-d-xo.html ?
The 4.0 vs 4.1 thing I'm am certain is a placebo. It's more likely that something has been set up slightly differently in the firmware configuration when you set up 4.0. I've seen the changes between the two, and they are identical in those aspects. I'm sure if you took a diff all from 4.0, flashed 4.1 and reinstated the diff, it would all work fine. As far as 4.1 goes, it is no more or less stable than 4.0. The main changes are for HD Zero integration, a couple of filter changes, and some updated in configurator for improving the modes page. Everything else is basically identical.
LEDs can be a pain. I used to have plenty of problems with them. But then I must have changed how I was doing things as the just started working. This was back quite a few versions ago, so not a firmware issue. Now they work fine on any builds I put them on. Mateksys 2812 LEDs are WS2812; Matek just dropped the WS prefix for some reason. I have this video, maybe it will help? th-cam.com/video/RxhoKpz-uzw/w-d-xo.html
Would Open Tx or Edge Tx work on a Google Chromebook? ( don’t think it will but I thought I’d ask. ) Thanks from a Newbie !!!
As in the Companion app? I don’t believe so.
I can't get my mixes Right? I'm missing something?? Throttle on Right stick not Left. Seems like arm does nothing?. I came from drones. Radio is set for TAER have X-lite and dart 250 Matek PDB and hglrcF22 fc in I nav says everything ok? But when fire up? Help?
It won’t matter that you’re mode 1. It’s only the transmitter that deal with that. So long as iNav has the correct channel order, it will work fine.
Have you checked out my other videos in that playlist? th-cam.com/play/PLtuty5zAsZ_aRUdASwMPFQp2efIeR-tV0.html The first thing is to get the receiver page all working correctly, then the board alignment, then the mixer and outputs.
If you flick the arm switch, nothing will happen unless you have enough satellites to arm. One thing is to make sure you have system messages enabled in your OSD. Anything blocking arming will be shown there.
@@MrD I did. I will watch again. And again. Lol was a long day. And my screen looks different. My radio screen. My choices is plane or delta
@@MrD and big Thanks for responding. Thank you!
Always just a basic plane mix. The elevon mixing will be done in iNav its self.
@@MrD thanks again. My first flight Soon!! Well few days is soon for this Old man.. lol
Hi friend, I m now trying to make to work my new Radiomaster TX16S and the Matek F765 with Inav 3.0.1, I followed every step that you showed in your video, and its seems regarding hardware and communication between FC and Radio works, inputs, outputs and in the Inav configurator shows that everything is active, BUT, when I stuck in the modes , between ARM (ch 5, sw = SF) and ANGLE (ch6 sw= SA), no matter ANGLE is in OFF (grey zone) as soon I set ARM = ON (blue zone) the ANGLE is ON !!! what happen here ? , I proved everything, inverting channels, change channels etc etc, dont work, as soon GPS got signals, and ARM is ON, its set ON Angle too, no matter this was OFF. PLease, need little help. As I said, new Radiomaster TX16S (with last OPenTX on it) new Matek F765 and last Inav firmware on it.
Firstly, you should be careful when inverting channels on the radio; especially the first 4 channels. I'd recommend checking this video, just to make sure that the first 4 channels are correct th-cam.com/video/b1m1aSrtVCQ/w-d-xo.html
Next, go to the receiver page in iNav and move your arm switch. You should only see CH 5 moving with your arm switch (SF) and CH 6 moving with your mode switch (SA). If this is not the case, there is something not right on the transmitter. If this is working correctly, go to the modes page.
On the modes page, double check that the range for angle is set to CH 6. Remember to press the save button, otherwise you won't see the true results.
Let me know what happens here.
thanks for quickly answer, I just confirm you that my CH 5 = SW SF just move alone when I switch SF, and the same thing when just turn CH 6 = SA, its move alone (no others channels move) in the receiver page Inav. I will take a look on your video, and I ll back , as newbie in Inav I really appreciate your tips and help. thanks again...
That’s good. It sounds like the transmitter is fine. Hopefully it is just the range on the modes page.
@@MrD Hi, after I watched your recommended video, I founded this: in my Transmmiter TX16S, page "input" the order of the 4 channels is from above TAER, and in the next page MIXES, its showing AETR, thats match with
with the Inav Receiver channels bars AETR
so do you think this will my problem regarding the others CH 5 and CH 6 ?
thanks again... I dont have any person nearby in the RC Club that can help me.
No, that’s fine. The mixer uses the inputs by name, so the order is not important. So long as the order on the mixer page of the transmitter matches the order on the receive page of iNav, it’s fine.
Very useful, thanks. But I set the same, then when I switch to RTH, iNAV displays it as ACRO. Manual and Angle are correct though. I am using iNAV 2.8.4. Anyone know why?
And Matek F405 Wing
hello,
I'm finishing my first wing (ZOHD orbit) with the FC MATEK F405-WING,
but as soon as I plug it the beeper starts beeping, the motor also and never stops beeping.
I've double checked the connections and they seem ok.
I'm using a DJI air unit with DJI controller, it works ok, but the beeper keeps beeping...
Any ideas about the why annoying beeping?
Flash with INAV 5.1.0
P.S. - the wing is a second hand buying
thank you
If you're using WTF-OS on your DJI goggles. Enable System messages in the OSD. That may point to the issue that's causing the beep.
If not, in configurator, go to the CLI and type status. That will return some codes that may highlight the problem causing the beep. You can check the codes at github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/%22Something%22-is-disabled----Reasons
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I'll trade you a ps4 pro for that controller.
🤣🤣🤣 not a chance