Thanks Darren I've been waiting for this video, were I fly its all mountains in every direction, so if I use the sea level setting and at takeoff location is 1800ft above sea level and altitude is set to 300ft but along the mission I'm crossing mountains that are 2500ft to 2800ft above sea level will plane maintain the 300ft automatically or will it be at 300feet above the launch site? I don't want to fly into one of these mountains lol. Thanks again for all you do
I didn't explain my question very well but I would like for plane to stay at set altitude according to were it is not the launch point because of my terran, so would I need to enable the sea level on each waypoint? Thanks again
I would love a video going in depth with the advanced setups for WP nav, like triggering logics at WP, and setting up Pilot Actions at Waypoints. Thank you for doing in depth videos. Your explanations are exelent. Keep doing what you do.
@@MrD Yeah I get it but they already use iNav and a waypoint activation of a release would be useless for munitions. Way too inaccurate. Have fun with the next one. Cheers
Flying missions for a longer time ,I just stepped in to look, if I could catch something new.....but since you selected the Goodwood area, I had to stay the whole video. I am big fan of all Goodwood events.
Thanks for the video. Seeing the Mission Elevation Profile was very useful. I wasn't aware that was there. You mentioned the drawback of using "Load waypoint on boot". It will prevent you from arming, if the first WP is too far and you would need to use the stick command to unload the mission before you can arm. Consider the drawback of NOT using the option. You've taken off (without loading the mission). If you enable WP mode without a mission loaded, iNav goes into RTH mode. You can exit RTH by turning off WP mode, but you have no way of loading the mission while you are flying. You have to land; use the stick command to load the mission and take off again before you can fly the mission. To me, the correct time to enforce the "distance to first waypoint" should be when you enable WP mode, not when you are trying to arm.
I think the usefulness of auto load depends on how often you fly missions. If it’s all the time, then it’s definitely useful. If it’s rare thing, then loading a mission all the time could be a pain. Especially if the mission is outside the safe distance and you have to unload the mission before you can fly. I see both sides with the safe distance. Ultimately, I think 1.5km for the first waypoint is a fair compromise.
Thanks this is a useful update. I think 1 programming event feature that will be most practical is aborting a mission and executing RTH when the battery is capacity is lower than a minimum threshold, and (this may be tricky) if possible also on the condition that any of the next waypoints are further from home than the current position. That's especially important if the mission may continue out of radio range (there is a inav setting for that).
That should be possible with the programming framework. But, you can set up estimated flight time and distance. I’ve not looked in to this a great deal. But the setup is: - on the configuration page, change the battery capacity from mAh to Wh, and enter the correct details for your pack. - on the advanced tuning page, there are settings related to this. Off the top of my head, it has stuff like Watts for cruise and some other settings that you’ll also need to set - you’ll also need a well calibrated current sensor and voltage sensor Once that’s all set up. The flight time and distance OSD elements should work. I’m not sure if those values are available in programming. But if they are, they’d be the best values to use for the return point. If they’re not in programming, I may well add them.
Thanks for a brilliant overview! A future look at advanced features would certainly be welcome as well. One question: Is it safe to specify negative WP altitudes in sloping terrain, or could negative values confuse the system? Negative values would be more handy than using sea level reference for low terrain missions, and they seem to work OK in Mission Control, but I never dared try for real.
Thanks 👍🏻 With regards to the negative values. I really don’t know. I guess the best way to find out is set up a mission with negative values and try it in HITL. No risk involved then.
Greetings, great video. I have a mission scheduled behind the mountains, I will surely lose TX signal, I will use the parameter failsafe_mission_delay = -1 so that the mission continues using the GPS. But what happens if I also lose the GPS? What function would this parameter do in the mission failsafe_gps_fix_estimation_delay = -1 ?. Would it be better to activate the failsafe_gps_fix_estimation_delay = 7 ? Would this activate the FS even if I have the ailsafe_mission_delay = -1 ?
Thanks for video Darren but I'm still not sure about if I loose rc link during waypoints mission, if set to resume will it continue mission? I know older inav versions I would do set failsafe_ mission = off. Thanks again
Very informative, thank you! I would like to fly missions on my computer screen like that! How is this accomplished may I ask? I should add - is that part of Mission Control?
You can fly with INAV on the computer using Hardware In The Loop, or Software In The Loop. Here’s a video on how to use HITL. th-cam.com/video/EnMx1cFLy4I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AJq6CmRYfzF5yXvl
Great video Just I am wondering what will happen if the mission is far away from RC signal or if I turned the radio off? Will it continues the mission or will turn to RTL? Thanks
@@MrD You more than Welcome, I have a Queston if You don't mind I've been looking for info on reverse thrust, Sunnysky v3 motor/INAV 6.1.1/RM TX16s/Crossfire latest stable/HK Skywalker 60A ESC,I asked HK For reverse ESC and they did not understand me. Question can a Logical Switch be set-up to use let's say Inertia switch on TX16S to reverse my motor if so would you write it PLEASE THANK YOU
Great video i have one question if you have a problem with the mission if you just turn the waypoint switch off on your radio then does everything go back to normal flight and you have complete control?
So the best I can find out after much research in inav 6.1.1 in advance tuning tab waypoints section if failsafe setting is set to -1 plane won't enter failsafe while flying waypoints mission, I'm not sure if it will enter failsafe anytime but will do some testing
I’m on a Mac, but have access to a PC. Is there a mission planner for inav that allows for pre drawn missions? For instance you want to do a mapping mission. I’m thinking a shape you drag and drop on the map that has the amount of passes you want and the mission is shaped like a rectangle, but you can drag the corners to re-shape the mission or add points to change the shape. Once the mission is correct, a file can be created that can be uploaded to the FC or it can be directly loaded from the software.
the NAV WP mode is used like any other navigation modes. When you want to start flying the mission, you switch to the WP mode. The stick commands are to load the mission before you arm the aircraft.
I made a waypoint mission using this tutorial but cannot get my plane to go to the first waypoint, I setup my NAV WP mode and when I turn it on I just loiter around home. Am I missing a setup?
There’s not really enough information here to say what’s going on. Did you enable auto load mission? If not, did you load the mission with stick commands? If the mission is successfully loaded, is there a system message saying the first waypoint is too far away?
Hello, I don't have the Nav WP under modes? The question is why not, do I have to set something separately! I fly a quad with F722 HGLRC board! Is it maybe because of that? Thanks in advance
You will need to meet the hardware requirements. With a quad you would need GPS and magnetometer. Maybe barometer too. Please see the note in the video description about making sure everything works perfectly before attempting missions.
@@MrD Yes, that was exactly my problem, the magnetometer is missing. I can't retrofit it either, because I'm missing SDA & SDL on the board! Thank you for quick help!! Greetings from Germany!!
It would be awesome if you could just drag the points on the mission elevation profile graph to set the altitudes for each waypoint.
Was wondering the same - being new to this was waiting for Darren to 'drag' the points to clear the terrain.
That would be pretty cool.
Thanks Darren I've been waiting for this video, were I fly its all mountains in every direction, so if I use the sea level setting and at takeoff location is 1800ft above sea level and altitude is set to 300ft but along the mission I'm crossing mountains that are 2500ft to 2800ft above sea level will plane maintain the 300ft automatically or will it be at 300feet above the launch site? I don't want to fly into one of these mountains lol. Thanks again for all you do
I didn't explain my question very well but I would like for plane to stay at set altitude according to were it is not the launch point because of my terran, so would I need to enable the sea level on each waypoint? Thanks again
Nice one new on the scene to inav so I’m sure I’ll pour over this a few times , appreciate the efforts & knowledge 🙏👍
You’re welcome 👍🏻
I would love a video going in depth with the advanced setups for WP nav, like triggering logics at WP, and setting up Pilot Actions at Waypoints. Thank you for doing in depth videos. Your explanations are exelent. Keep doing what you do.
da l'italiano 🇮🇹 un enorme grazie boss e stato molto utile il tuo video 👌👌👍🤗🤗🙋♂️🙋♂️
Inav needed an up to date tutorial on this subject. Great video sir. 🍻
High praise coming from a Mission Maestro. Thanks Shawn 👍🏻
Great vid. Sure Id like to see triggering a release at a waypoint.
Given the current situation in Eastern Europe. I won’t be showing this. But I can show how to start video recording at a certain point.
@@MrD Yeah I get it but they already use iNav and a waypoint activation of a release would be useless for munitions. Way too inaccurate. Have fun with the next one. Cheers
excellent tutorial, I was able to follow step by step to setup my first Waypoint Mission. How did you watch the mission on the computer? Thank you.
The flight on the computer is using HITL. I believe there’s a link to how to set it up in the video description.
Flying missions for a longer time ,I just stepped in to look, if I could catch something new.....but since you selected the Goodwood area, I had to stay the whole video. I am big fan of all Goodwood events.
Goodwood is awesome. I need to go back to the Festival of Speed next year. There are always amazing cars there to see.
Thanks for the video. Seeing the Mission Elevation Profile was very useful. I wasn't aware that was there. You mentioned the drawback of using "Load waypoint on boot". It will prevent you from arming, if the first WP is too far and you would need to use the stick command to unload the mission before you can arm. Consider the drawback of NOT using the option. You've taken off (without loading the mission). If you enable WP mode without a mission loaded, iNav goes into RTH mode. You can exit RTH by turning off WP mode, but you have no way of loading the mission while you are flying. You have to land; use the stick command to load the mission and take off again before you can fly the mission. To me, the correct time to enforce the "distance to first waypoint" should be when you enable WP mode, not when you are trying to arm.
I think the usefulness of auto load depends on how often you fly missions. If it’s all the time, then it’s definitely useful. If it’s rare thing, then loading a mission all the time could be a pain. Especially if the mission is outside the safe distance and you have to unload the mission before you can fly.
I see both sides with the safe distance. Ultimately, I think 1.5km for the first waypoint is a fair compromise.
Thanks this is a useful update. I think 1 programming event feature that will be most practical is aborting a mission and executing RTH when the battery is capacity is lower than a minimum threshold, and (this may be tricky) if possible also on the condition that any of the next waypoints are further from home than the current position. That's especially important if the mission may continue out of radio range (there is a inav setting for that).
That should be possible with the programming framework.
But, you can set up estimated flight time and distance. I’ve not looked in to this a great deal. But the setup is:
- on the configuration page, change the battery capacity from mAh to Wh, and enter the correct details for your pack.
- on the advanced tuning page, there are settings related to this. Off the top of my head, it has stuff like Watts for cruise and some other settings that you’ll also need to set
- you’ll also need a well calibrated current sensor and voltage sensor
Once that’s all set up. The flight time and distance OSD elements should work. I’m not sure if those values are available in programming. But if they are, they’d be the best values to use for the return point. If they’re not in programming, I may well add them.
@@MrD Thanks so much, I'm going to give it a try after first calibrating my current sensor.
Awesome tutorial on flying waypoint missions thanks Darren
No problem 👍
Works great !!! THANKS. Did my 1st mission yesterday... 16km circuit with landing at the ladt wp. But 90° waypoint-turns with wing was scary 😮
Ok got it, I'm just about to try WP mission, thanks men 👍
No problem 👍
Fantastic video, thanks for creating and sharing........:)
I’m glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Great video! Thanks.
Thanks Ard 👍🏻
Great Video!
Thanks 👍🏻
Thanks for a brilliant overview! A future look at advanced features would certainly be welcome as well. One question: Is it safe to specify negative WP altitudes in sloping terrain, or could negative values confuse the system? Negative values would be more handy than using sea level reference for low terrain missions, and they seem to work OK in Mission Control, but I never dared try for real.
Thanks 👍🏻 With regards to the negative values. I really don’t know. I guess the best way to find out is set up a mission with negative values and try it in HITL. No risk involved then.
Very interesting walkthrough! How did you set up the h/w in the loop-simulation? Could be handy when testing a new mission😊
I just followed some idiot’s video 😉 th-cam.com/video/EnMx1cFLy4I/w-d-xo.html
Greetings, great video. I have a mission scheduled behind the mountains, I will surely lose TX signal, I will use the parameter failsafe_mission_delay = -1 so that the mission continues using the GPS. But what happens if I also lose the GPS? What function would this parameter do in the mission failsafe_gps_fix_estimation_delay = -1 ?. Would it be better to activate the failsafe_gps_fix_estimation_delay = 7 ? Would this activate the FS even if I have the ailsafe_mission_delay = -1 ?
Thanks for video Darren but I'm still not sure about if I loose rc link during waypoints mission, if set to resume will it continue mission? I know older inav versions I would do set failsafe_ mission = off. Thanks again
Very informative, thank you!
I would like to fly missions on my computer screen like that! How is this accomplished may I ask?
I should add - is that part of Mission Control?
You can fly with INAV on the computer using Hardware In The Loop, or Software In The Loop. Here’s a video on how to use HITL. th-cam.com/video/EnMx1cFLy4I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AJq6CmRYfzF5yXvl
Great video
Just I am wondering what will happen if the mission is far away from RC signal or if I turned the radio off? Will it continues the mission or will turn to RTL?
Thanks
It depends on what you have set up. By default, it will failsafe and perform whatever you have set for that.
Thanks!
Thank you Michael 👍🏻
@@MrD You more than Welcome, I have a Queston if You don't mind I've been looking for info on reverse thrust, Sunnysky v3 motor/INAV 6.1.1/RM TX16s/Crossfire latest stable/HK Skywalker 60A ESC,I asked HK For reverse ESC and they did not understand me. Question can a Logical Switch be set-up to use let's say Inertia switch on TX16S to reverse my motor if so would you write it PLEASE THANK YOU
@@michaelchambers9838 no, you would need to use a specific ESC or have a centre throttle for reverse thrust.
Thanks again 👍🏻
@@MrD THANK YOU
HI i really want to build an autonomous RC Plane (simple waypoints)
Do you have any recommendation for me to read/learn the step by step guide?
Thanks
Great video i have one question if you have a problem with the mission if you just turn the waypoint switch off on your radio then does everything go back to normal flight and you have complete control?
Yes. If you exit WP mode. It will use whatever mode you have selected.
If you lose radio contact will craft complete mission or failsafe?
Hi! Is there any way to skip a waypoint in flight during mission fly ?
can't see what you do because everything looks too small on my laptop
I've been researching my question on loosing rc link during waypoints mission but no luck, cli won't except set failsafe_mission = off
So the best I can find out after much research in inav 6.1.1 in advance tuning tab waypoints section if failsafe setting is set to -1 plane won't enter failsafe while flying waypoints mission, I'm not sure if it will enter failsafe anytime but will do some testing
Hi Darren, thanks so much. How can you choose where to fly in XPlane? Can you an arbitrary starting point anywhere on the globe?
You have to select the airport you want to take off from.
I’m on a Mac, but have access to a PC. Is there a mission planner for inav that allows for pre drawn missions? For instance you want to do a mapping mission. I’m thinking a shape you drag and drop on the map that has the amount of passes you want and the mission is shaped like a rectangle, but you can drag the corners to re-shape the mission or add points to change the shape. Once the mission is correct, a file can be created that can be uploaded to the FC or it can be directly loaded from the software.
What about the NAV WP mode - when do you need to use it if there are stick commands to load missions?
the NAV WP mode is used like any other navigation modes. When you want to start flying the mission, you switch to the WP mode. The stick commands are to load the mission before you arm the aircraft.
I made a waypoint mission using this tutorial but cannot get my plane to go to the first waypoint, I setup my NAV WP mode and when I turn it on I just loiter around home. Am I missing a setup?
There’s not really enough information here to say what’s going on. Did you enable auto load mission? If not, did you load the mission with stick commands? If the mission is successfully loaded, is there a system message saying the first waypoint is too far away?
Hello, I don't have the Nav WP under modes? The question is why not, do I have to set something separately! I fly a quad with F722 HGLRC board! Is it maybe because of that? Thanks in advance
You will need to meet the hardware requirements. With a quad you would need GPS and magnetometer. Maybe barometer too. Please see the note in the video description about making sure everything works perfectly before attempting missions.
@@MrD Yes, that was exactly my problem, the magnetometer is missing. I can't retrofit it either, because I'm missing SDA & SDL on the board! Thank you for quick help!! Greetings from Germany!!
What is the software you tested this mission ?
Check out th-cam.com/video/EnMx1cFLy4I/w-d-xo.html
which simulator did he use?
X-Plane 11