I don't think he is guessing. He uses the reticle to measure and then dials it that amount. That's what the reticle is for. Dial or hold off with the reticle once you are close.
Thanks! Been waiting for this video. I have the 6x24 old version of the Match Pro. It was under 500 and my 1st "real" optic. The new scope cam footage was so good I could watch the bullet in flight!
I bought that scope about 2 years ago. And it's been very solid. The glass is usable and the reticle is big and literally eliminates the need to dial . Which saves alot of time.
I totally agree with your review on this bushnell. I got one from them as soon as they released and been recommending them for a budget friendly option since I put it through its paces. I think it is the way to for its price point.
Thanks for your review based on that I purchased one, and love it. Lilja barrels are hard to come by, on eBay for a 20”, I bid up to $950 then I had to let it go to someone else. Instead I found a Bartlein 26” for $650 and ordered one. According to your side by side test there wasn’t much difference to speak about. Just got back into shooting 22lr , I purchased a CZ457 MTR, as a budget for this scope. Also, a second CZ457, MDT Chassis, Vortex Razor, 26” barrel, trigger, etc. Definitely understand dimensional returns on money spent, but it’s an additive hobby. Just like campfire sidearms…
Great video. I am sold on them just from your review. A side note here though. I see where you have dripped cleaning solvent onto the butt stock and it streaked the finish. You should give that rifle to me because I would take care of it. Just tell me where you want me too pick it up, and as a total classy gesture on your part, leave that scope on it please!
GR8 VIDEO ILL STICK WITH THE ARKEN TILL I GET THE TRAK... BY THE WAY FINALLY GOT OUT N TRIED THE STRAW.... AMAZING RESULTS ALMOST ELIMINATED COLD BORE COMPLETELY.... GRB FIND THNX.... IM A BELEIVER THNX
I went to this on my nrl 22 rig as my mark 5 is only parallax free 50 and beyond. While I own 3 Arkin scopes and love them I feel there is a bit more with this scope and my new favorite sub1k as well.
Man, look at all of the great comments - seems like this one was a hit! I had the older MatchPro, but returned it as it didn’t seem much better than my Bushnell Elite. It seems like this one is legit! I’m not a fan of the reticle though
I swapped out the scope on my CZ457 today for this scope, it had been on a centerfire. I have an NRL match Saturday so it'll get a lot more use on my competition rifle. I was very impressed with the clarity of the glass, been a while since I looked through it. My windage turret isn't stiff like yours is, thankfully. I know you criticized the reticle for not having half mills marked but I was using the .2's for holdovers and I really liked them. The reticle to me is clear and easy to use for holdovers. I have previously been using the Arken SH4 which I like but , def not as good as this. Before that I used the Athlon TAC which I found had an unforgiving eyebox, OK for bench but not for me in NRL22. Anyway, I love your channel and appreciate the effort you put into it to bring us such great content.
I like it when you miss. Let’s me know all the awesome shots you make aren’t just a highlight reel of something that took you a hundred tries. If you’re willing to show misses then you’re an honest guy in my book. Picked up one of these scopes a few months ago and I couldn’t agree with you more. It punches way above its price point.
@nathancoulter9294 I ended up getting this scope, on the 457 MTR, and put it in a MDT XRS chassis. It fit perfectly using 1" rings from MDT. The only thing that was specific to my case, I put the enclosed forend on my chassis, which with 1" rings prevents from using the sunshade included with this scope. I needed to upgrade to 1.5" rings to get enough clearance for the sunshade. For a nice low profile, low to the barrel setup, the 1" rings are great.
Budget scope. Fifty years ago 700 bucks equaled over 1600 dollars with a cumulative rate of inflation at 136.0%. I had a Bushnell Elite mounted on my 64 Anschutz it had 1/8 clicks and resettable zero. Wasn't a bad scope I sold it and the rifle a couple of years ago only other Bushnell I have owned is a fixed six power that is mounted on a .222 I have. It must be over thirty years old. Bausch and Lomb had a hand in Bushnell I always heard maybe not anymore. It really gets me that 700 bucks is now budget pricing when I bought my first Zeiss years ago I had to pay for it in installments.
I am following your advice and getting a 457 MTR plus scope for production class PRS. But I am torn between scopes, since you have high praise for this one and also for the Athlon Helos BTR Gen2. So between the Bushnell Match Pro ED and the Athlon Helos BTR, which one would be your choice for production class? Also (besides magnification), are there any noticeable differences between the two? Thank you! I LOVE your channel, I am doing more video watching than actual shooting, and it is YOUR fault! : )
Hey brother love the channel hope we bump into each other one day live out here in Longs S.C. and have a question getting my first bergara b14 R trainer 22lr what do you recommend for a rail don't want to buy wrong one they talk about short throw and long throw does it make a difference or will any remington 700 picatinny rail work?
As someone who can afford any scope. I think it is a good scope. But for that much money, I don't think it's a budget scope. I still might consider it for my twenty-two bench rest league. Great review.
That is not a bad scope for the money, but like the bow and arrow it is not the arrow that makes a difference but the Indian . In this case YOU are the difference. I bought the Bushnell Forge a few years ago when they were going to be discontinued for 50% off and mounted it on my 22lr not bad for the money too. I would like to put you on the spot and ask if there was only one brand of 22lr ammo that was going to be your go too, which would it be? I know rifles are finicky but just talking ammo, which have you found to be more consistent?
I shot this side by side next to my Cronus . At 50 yards , I really couldn’t see a lot of difference in the glass . The Bushnell was so impressive ! I’m hoping the Japanese glass of the Cronus shows its price point beyond 100 yds . What’s your thoughts on that Josh ?
Hi Josh, If you had the choice of the Match Pro ED the Arken EP 5 or the vortex Strike eagle what would you go for ?, at the moment they are all available over hear in Australia, Thanks for your reviews .
Right on Josh,, thank you for the help advice and quick reply,, buddy. You are awesome bro. Help out the .22LR community,, we love your channel and input. Keep up the great content. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
I was going to order a Primary Arms GLX 4.5-27x56 w/the BPR mildot reticle,but I may just pick up one of these instead. They appear to have about the same features,but the Bushnell is about $150 less. I saw another review for this scope(can't recall who made it),but he was impressed too.
I hereby accept your invitation to me to come out and shoot at your range. Thank you. Very nice of you. Now brother you do realize that reticle is ready for you to avoid ever twisting those turrets at all right? At some point you’re good enough with those turrets you shouldn’t have to pay so much for first focal plane. And I realized maybe I shouldn’t have my damn self...
Ffp is necessary in my style of shooting. I need my holds to be the same regardless of magnification. I may shoot a holdover only stage and go from 10-20x
"Made in China" is NOT what I want on my scopes. The Bushnell Elite line is "Made in Japan" and that's good. I have two Bushnell Elite scopes, one for competition and one for hunting and like them both.
A pretty biased review. Compare to your own video a year ago, th-cam.com/video/TBgK4Totom4/w-d-xo.html Arken EP5 obviously has less chromatic aberration at high power, while this MPED has the purple mirage around all the white poles. Bushnell MPED is a good budget scope, it's just not any much better. I would say, at most on par with EP5. For 1K- price range, EP5 is obviously the king.
I had never looked through the match pro ed at that point. Also consider what your seeing in the video is being filmed by a gopro so the image is better than shown. Having owned both i 100% stand by what I say in this review
Budget @$750 😮 Not sure what budget you mean, but that isn't budget for most people bro! C'mon man! 😊 be real! Budget for most people is 3 or 4 bills my man 😂 sorry, but that's just real life for most when you say "budget" 😊 😉
I think i learned more about holdover and scope adjustment in this video than i have ever before. I feel like a light bulb just went off over my head!
As a Bushnell elite scope fan and a leupold scope fan I loved this video 📹 😅long time subscriber from Ireland 🇮🇪 🎉😊
Your ability to guess at how much to holdover or dial the turrets is amazing.
I don't think he is guessing. He uses the reticle to measure and then dials it that amount. That's what the reticle is for. Dial or hold off with the reticle once you are close.
I enjoy your no nonsense approach to your video's and sharing information. Keep them coming.
I have this scope and absolutely love it. I mounted on my Tikka T1x. At 100 yards it the combination is a dream. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! Been waiting for this video. I have the 6x24 old version of the Match Pro. It was under 500 and my 1st "real" optic. The new scope cam footage was so good I could watch the bullet in flight!
The new scope cam is awesome. Looking forward to more shooting videos!!!
I bought that scope about 2 years ago. And it's been very solid. The glass is usable and the reticle is big and literally eliminates the need to dial . Which saves alot of time.
Love the video great as always. Thanks for looking at all kinds of different stuff and trying to help out everyone with different budgets and stuff!
You just explained what I need to know about this scope in one video, the best, love this.
Really good stuff presented in a very enjoyable format. Watching you make that scope work was the best kind of review for me,
Great review as always Josh. Always a must watch! Keep them coming!
I totally agree with your review on this bushnell. I got one from them as soon as they released and been recommending them for a budget friendly option since I put it through its paces. I think it is the way to for its price point.
Thanks for your review based on that I purchased one, and love it. Lilja barrels are hard to come by, on eBay for a 20”, I bid up to $950 then I had to let it go to someone else. Instead I found a Bartlein 26” for $650 and ordered one. According to your side by side test there wasn’t much difference to speak about. Just got back into shooting 22lr , I purchased a CZ457 MTR, as a budget for this scope. Also, a second CZ457, MDT Chassis, Vortex Razor, 26” barrel, trigger, etc. Definitely understand dimensional returns on money spent, but it’s an additive hobby. Just like campfire sidearms…
Can't say I have seen a bad review on that scope. Thanks fer sharing !!
I’ve got the original match pro and love it. Can’t wait to get this version of it because it can only get better.
Great video. I am sold on them just from your review. A side note here though. I see where you have dripped cleaning solvent onto the butt stock and it streaked the finish. You should give that rifle to me because I would take care of it. Just tell me where you want me too pick it up, and as a total classy gesture on your part, leave that scope on it please!
GR8 VIDEO ILL STICK WITH THE ARKEN TILL I GET THE TRAK... BY THE WAY FINALLY GOT OUT N TRIED THE STRAW.... AMAZING RESULTS ALMOST ELIMINATED COLD BORE COMPLETELY.... GRB FIND THNX.... IM A BELEIVER THNX
I just got the OG Match Pro on my Ruger Precision Rifle and the glass on that is very good. It’s my first MIL scope.
I should have my first FFP scope ever Monday. I was gifted a Riton Conquer 6-24×50, I'm really excited! ❤❤❤
I like the ranging focus. Makes it pretty easy to range on the fly just on thr focus alone
I went to this on my nrl 22 rig as my mark 5 is only parallax free 50 and beyond. While I own 3 Arkin scopes and love them I feel there is a bit more with this scope and my new favorite sub1k as well.
I'm glad someone brought up a comment about Arkin
Definitely going to get the Match Pro! Was wondering what brand & cost is your new scope cam? Great video & shooting!!!
Thank you Josh and looks like a great scope
Man, look at all of the great comments - seems like this one was a hit!
I had the older MatchPro, but returned it as it didn’t seem much better than my Bushnell Elite.
It seems like this one is legit!
I’m not a fan of the reticle though
you never disapoint
I swapped out the scope on my CZ457 today for this scope, it had been on a centerfire. I have an NRL match Saturday so it'll get a lot more use on my competition rifle. I was very impressed with the clarity of the glass, been a while since I looked through it. My windage turret isn't stiff like yours is, thankfully. I know you criticized the reticle for not having half mills marked but I was using the .2's for holdovers and I really liked them. The reticle to me is clear and easy to use for holdovers. I have previously been using the Arken SH4 which I like but , def not as good as this. Before that I used the Athlon TAC which I found had an unforgiving eyebox, OK for bench but not for me in NRL22. Anyway, I love your channel and appreciate the effort you put into it to bring us such great content.
I like it when you miss. Let’s me know all the awesome shots you make aren’t just a highlight reel of something that took you a hundred tries. If you’re willing to show misses then you’re an honest guy in my book.
Picked up one of these scopes a few months ago and I couldn’t agree with you more. It punches way above its price point.
I just ordered the 457 Varmint MTR today, looking at getting this scope. With the 419 rail, what brand and size rings are you using in this video?
I was wondering the same thing did you figure it out?
@nathancoulter9294 I ended up getting this scope, on the 457 MTR, and put it in a MDT XRS chassis. It fit perfectly using 1" rings from MDT. The only thing that was specific to my case, I put the enclosed forend on my chassis, which with 1" rings prevents from using the sunshade included with this scope. I needed to upgrade to 1.5" rings to get enough clearance for the sunshade. For a nice low profile, low to the barrel setup, the 1" rings are great.
@@BellySyrupthanks for the details. I really appreciate it
Budget scope. Fifty years ago 700 bucks equaled over 1600 dollars with a cumulative rate of inflation at 136.0%. I had a Bushnell Elite mounted on my 64 Anschutz it had 1/8 clicks and resettable zero. Wasn't a bad scope I sold it and the rifle a couple of years ago only other Bushnell I have owned is a fixed six power that is mounted on a .222 I have. It must be over thirty years old. Bausch and Lomb had a hand in Bushnell I always heard maybe not anymore. It really gets me that 700 bucks is now budget pricing when I bought my first Zeiss years ago I had to pay for it in installments.
It just goes to show what $700 will buy when it comes to a scope in today's market............ thanks for sharing !!
I am following your advice and getting a 457 MTR plus scope for production class PRS. But I am torn between scopes, since you have high praise for this one and also for the Athlon Helos BTR Gen2.
So between the Bushnell Match Pro ED and the Athlon Helos BTR, which one would be your choice for production class?
Also (besides magnification), are there any noticeable differences between the two?
Thank you! I LOVE your channel, I am doing more video watching than actual shooting, and it is YOUR fault! : )
I have that scope and rifle. I love it so far. Can I ask why you didn't zero on paper? Just wondering. Thanks
Hey brother love the channel hope we bump into each other one day live out here in Longs S.C. and have a question getting my first bergara b14 R trainer 22lr what do you recommend for a rail don't want to buy wrong one they talk about short throw and long throw does it make a difference or will any remington 700 picatinny rail work?
I’ve got two Match Pro non-ED’s for rules reasons. They’re a lot of glass for sub $300.
As someone who can afford any scope. I think it is a good scope. But for that much money, I don't think it's a budget scope. I still might consider it for my twenty-two bench rest league. Great review.
Hi Josh. Thx for the video! May I ask you what camera you use for your videos?
I use sony mirrorless cameras.
What scope cam did you get?
Thanks for the review.
That is not a bad scope for the money, but like the bow and arrow it is not the arrow that makes a difference but the Indian . In this case YOU are the difference. I bought the Bushnell Forge a few years ago when they were going to be discontinued for 50% off and mounted it on my 22lr not bad for the money too. I would like to put you on the spot and ask if there was only one brand of 22lr ammo that was going to be your go too, which would it be? I know rifles are finicky but just talking ammo, which have you found to be more consistent?
How big is that egg at 180? Crazy good shooting and love that scope!
I think its 2" at its widest area
@@PursuitofAccuracy 🤯🤯🤯
I shot this side by side next to my Cronus . At 50 yards , I really couldn’t see a lot of difference in the glass . The Bushnell was so impressive ! I’m hoping the Japanese glass of the Cronus shows its price point beyond 100 yds . What’s your thoughts on that Josh ?
The cronus has good glass that will beat out the bushnell, but not by much
Love your reviews and content in general. Any chance you'll be trying out the new Leupold Mark 4HD 6-24x52 at one point?
I have been working on getting one in for review
@youtube.com/@LeupoldOptics Get this man a scope! Pretty please 🤞
@@markdorman426 i like your style 😁
What size Armageddon rear bag do you use? Awesome videos, thank you!
Pint size for rear bag, schmedium for front
Do you known if the barrel is actually going into production?
It is, think they are waiting for the next run to add it to the website
@@PursuitofAccuracy awesome thank youbsir. Did they give you a price point. Maybe have them spin up a barrel for your 2020
@@markberenbrok627 i believe its going to be the same cost as the current barrels, I could be wrong but thats what i recall
Are you using the 26” barrel still? I ordered mine, Carson said early spring eta. Really like your vid’s.
Yeah thats the 26" barrel
@@PursuitofAccuracy, Carson called me last week to tell me he doesn’t have a collet for the larger barrel diameter, so it can only be 1”.
What arca rail do you have installed?
Hi Josh, If you had the choice of the Match Pro ED the Arken EP 5 or the vortex Strike eagle what would you go for ?, at the moment they are all available over hear in Australia, Thanks for your reviews .
Match pro ed
Quick grab your new scope Elijah 14 minutes ago new challenge let's go
What is your check riser
Curious as to what slat wall you have in your background?
Thats hold up displays
What barrel was on the gun at this time of the video Josh
@@timothytrexler1896 lilja
Ok, scope is impressive for the money but you were hammering to point of aim. What ammo were you using?
Ok, had to go back and pay attention. Looks like Eley Match?
@@chrisgrable7786 eley match
Good day Josh. Say what shim size do you have in your Lilja barrel? For headspace
Id have to look but i shim to .042
@@PursuitofAccuracy right on, thank you 👍✅👌 that helps
Is that headspace good for both Eley, SK , Lapua. ? You mostly shoot Eley match
@@oscaroli4842 yeah that is snug for lapua. If you feel a hard close on lapua take away .001 shim
Right on Josh,, thank you for the help advice and quick reply,, buddy. You are awesome bro. Help out the .22LR community,, we love your channel and input. Keep up the great content. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
Which scope is the current king?
I was going to order a Primary Arms GLX 4.5-27x56 w/the BPR mildot reticle,but I may just pick up one of these instead. They appear to have about the same features,but the Bushnell is about $150 less. I saw another review for this scope(can't recall who made it),but he was impressed too.
So we can look for these to replace the Toric?
No its just adding to
Do you have a link to that barrel. I tried to find it the other day with no luck. I would love to put one on my 457.
Its not on the website, you have to call them
@PursuitofAccuracy Thanks I will. It looks like it's an absolute tack driver for a Prefit barrel.
How does this optic compare to the Arken EP5? Mostly curious about glass clarity/quality.
It out glasses the arken easily
Quick question: when shooting in competition, like NRL 22, at what distance do I need to set your parallax?
I set my parallax to the average distance of the targets for that stage if i can get away with it
@@PursuitofAccuracyThanks a lot.
Awesome 😎
what is the eye relief like is it tight or forgiving
Was forgiving enough i never actually thought about it while shooting it
I hereby accept your invitation to me to come out and shoot at your range. Thank you. Very nice of you.
Now brother you do realize that reticle is ready for you to avoid ever twisting those turrets at all right? At some point you’re good enough with those turrets you shouldn’t have to pay so much for first focal plane. And I realized maybe I shouldn’t have my damn self...
Ffp is necessary in my style of shooting. I need my holds to be the same regardless of magnification.
I may shoot a holdover only stage and go from 10-20x
How many MOA is your mount?
That one is 50
3-18 match pro ed is coming out soon…
Nice
$750 is a budget scope?
For prs / nrl yes
Josh. I gotta ask, what's with the long intro? Is it a requirement? I'm guessing most people wouldn't miss intros on ANY videos, ever.
Nope just felt like doing it.
Its an artistic outlet for me so every now and again i just do one
"Made in China" is NOT what I want on my scopes. The Bushnell Elite line is "Made in Japan" and that's good. I have two Bushnell Elite scopes, one for competition and one for hunting and like them both.
A pretty biased review. Compare to your own video a year ago, th-cam.com/video/TBgK4Totom4/w-d-xo.html
Arken EP5 obviously has less chromatic aberration at high power, while this MPED has the purple mirage around all the white poles.
Bushnell MPED is a good budget scope, it's just not any much better. I would say, at most on par with EP5.
For 1K- price range, EP5 is obviously the king.
I had never looked through the match pro ed at that point.
Also consider what your seeing in the video is being filmed by a gopro so the image is better than shown.
Having owned both i 100% stand by what I say in this review
Budget @$750 😮
Not sure what budget you mean, but that isn't budget for most people bro! C'mon man! 😊 be real!
Budget for most people is 3 or 4 bills my man 😂 sorry, but that's just real life for most when you say "budget" 😊 😉
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