I thought the title said "How to recognize a dyslexia", than I realized it actually said "how to recognize a dystopia", than I realized that this is probably how you recognize a dyslexia.
@@tommeng6522 if you think Capitalism is bad, I want you to say it to someone who lives in India, a place where people couldn't open businesses and now due to Capitalist policies, is now the fastest growing major nation on earth
I love reading dystopian books because they often represent problems we have in our society but exaggeratedly and I think that such as the people in the stories change their worlds we should improve ours too (just preferably not as a revolution like in those books)
but nothing will change if it is not a revolution , only power can defeat power, and dystopian worlds are a form of power in the hand of those corrupted governors !
@@Codo_Lyoko usually the ones that include supernatural stuff; some of my favourites are renegades (Marissa Meyer), the host (Stephenie Meyer), Alice (Christina Henry), spring storm (Marie Graßhoff), shatter me (Tahereh Mafi), elite (Vivien Summer) or anything from Anna Benning (tho I‘m not sure if each of these books would be a perfect example for a dystopia, these are just some that give me a dystopian vibe)
@@whenwillyouwearwigs oh sweet! I don’t really mind if they’re not the most dystopian books, I’m just trying to find books to read in general since im new to it, I’ll probably put some of those on my to-read list after I finish Crime and Punishment (Fyodor Dostoevsky)
@@nimbletimplekins7601 that’s a whole other debate. Does a lack of free will with supposedly more happiness real happiness? Are they true,y happy if it’s their only choice? I’m about to go to sleep so I’ll ponder this another time though I’d hear what you have to say :)
@@YourPetSnake it's best embodied by the conflict of collectivism vs individualism. The countries represented are the US who invades others and has handled covid horribly vs China who send minorities to concentration camps and has handled the pandemic amazingly. Who's worse? It depends on who you are and what you believe.
+Anime Fan I'm not so sure either. But I can say that the video creators imply that the "perfect world" is built upon the foundation of an "imperfect world". In other word, there can't be a completely perfect society.
Well Caen... I agree for a lot of what you said, but that last portion was a bit... I don't know. Impractical? Extreme? But I won't be the guy who makes the mistake to say it's "wrong". But I want to see if I can offer a better system. Your system has a few flaws. First off, nukes would fuck us all if your system come into being. But lets assume there are no nukes, what you proposed is not really a system, it's a lack of one. What you proposed is anarchy. One of the basic principles of government is that since anarchy is the rock bottom, things can only get more orderly from anarchy. From anarchy, the most common thing to arise is a monarchy. This would be your "big ball of evil none of them will dare fuck with". But monarchies don't last. "Big balls of evil" fall, every time. So your system just leads us backward, where we are is definitely better than that. Alright, so now we need a better system than yours. Well... our current one is better then yours, but it's still pretty shit. The best system for government so far has been a benevolent monarchy. A monarch who does good to the people and improves on preexisting infrastructure. The only problems is that people die, and their successor may be horrible. But during the time a benevolent monarch is alive, countries make the most progress and are generally in the best state. What we need is a benevolent monarch who doesn't die... a decent AI. For now that's all hopes and dreams, but that would be the best system of government. That is, if you can't think of a better one.
But Austin there is still a problem with that. You've forgotten that every monarch in history no matter how benevolent is not infallible. And that's talking about internal and external toxicity. A benevolent AI is no exception to this. There will be imperfection in the ability to govern to ensure happiness and there will be a chance the program could somehow become corrupted. For a human the corruption would come because of temptation; for the AI the corruption could come from a tiny undetectable flaw in reasoning and logic that would exponentially grow and taint the rest of the programing over time. There is no way to insure that any one person or thing we place absolute power on could ensure the happiness of all kinds Because some logic has to be put over others. That is why we have democracy were the people decide who and what they are governed by. I relize that system hasn't been perfect but haven't you ever thought that might not be the systems fault? Democracy depends on the decisions of the people. What if the people part of democracy make the wrong decision for themselves? In that case, would it even be the governments fault? Has it ever been the case where it's been all our fault and we just blamed the government? A totalitarian regime is too easy to fall into corruption. Even an immortal AI can't be infallible to earth shattering mistakes. And even if it is it can't stay that way forever. Nothing last's forever. Ideas change and power shifts. In that sense change is the only certainty. In the past we were convinced that whatever regime we were in was perfect and the only way it could end was by external forces. Now we've almost done a 360. Now we see more threats coming from inside our regimes than from without. I'd say it's impossible to make a system that can't be spectacularly demolished from either and even more unlikely to make them infallible to both. I understand this was about thinking up a better system instead of a perfect one, but I think that some form of democracy is the best we've got. Simply for the reason that it can change and shift power inside of itself peacefully. Like I said change is the one certainty.
Things mentioned in the video that you may want to refer to after the video to expand your knowledge- ¬Utopia ¬Gulliver's Travels ¬The Time Machine ¬The Iron Heel ¬Brave New World ¬Animal Farm ¬1984 ¬We ¬Handmaid's Tale ¬It Can't Happen Here ¬V for Vendetta
@AbubakarRaji-c2z Love is willing for someone's good. It's the opposite of hate - which would be willing for someone's bad. The sentence implies you must care about others as you care about your own good. If you fight for something considered morally virtuous, for example, you're loving society.
@WovenAlloy of course but you understand by nurture we are going to come to different conclusions for what is love no? And loving society... you understand that there are some societies in which the greatest action of love you could give them is shunning. Look I'm not against what the original commenter is saying, I'm just looking at how it can be twisted.
We are living in a utopia already, don't you see? It has everything: happiness, sadness, the freedom to learn, the censorship of knowledge, progress, tragedy, peace, war, the room for growth... We are living in the best which society can be...
I question this statement. Dystopia can be a world of Kafka, where everyone, including the so-called leader may not be happy at all. Nonetheless, everyone fear that the world would get even worse if the order is threatened so nobody dare to change. Then they start defending and legitimizing the tyranny.
I read the Gulliver's Travels when I was 14. I thought it to be a children's book and it never striked me to be a dystopia or a satire... The older I'm the more comlicated my life is getting! :')
Father taught me, "Utopia and Dystopia are the same thing. It's called Utopia on paper, and Dystopia, when you make it real." The older I am, the more I understand that.
Can we say that it appears that the best is bad, the worst is bad too; so we are technically better off with all the mess we already have and not venturing for the other two states. but second thought tells us that we are as bad as the two(essentially one) extremes, because we are already suffering immensely, considering the worst pain is the pain in the present. but (personal opinion alert) this will likely defeat the theories that suggest to live your own good life(like existentialism) because we have no where to go.
@@PewPewBadaBoom Thanks for the comment. I would like to ask, can You elaborate more on the thought that the actual state - in between the extremes, or as You said, outside the one extreme - is seen as an immense suffering ? Are You pointing at the buddhistic view of our life, or something else ? Thanks in advance. :)
Dystopia is my favorite genre to read. I love a well crafted idea that looks so nice and shiny on the outside and the deeper you dig the more horrifying it becomes.
The idea of Utopia is flawed in its very concept. To wit: 1. In a Utopian society, everyone is happy because all conflict has been eliminated. 2. To eliminate conflict, one must root out its primary source: human individuality 3. In eradicating human individuality, one effectively destroys the very spirit of humanity. 4. When the human spirit has been destroyed, happiness is unattainable. This is essentially why every society that has attempted to establish the ideal Utopia (the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, East Germany, Maoist China) has ended up a totalitarian nightmare. Conflict is the price we pay for allowing every individual to express him or herself. That price is acceptable when compared to the alternatives.
MisterVercetti yes ,but if some right the fights we when will be minor and personal like a bar fight for example. If it wasn’t for corruption on the enormous power of money a lot of wars would not be happening right now including famines, diseases, etc.
The concept of a utopia is perfection, and everyone is happy. I remember reading The Giver in 7th grade and they thought they had a utopia but they actually had a dystopia. The concept of a dystopia is lots of flaws, and everyone is miserable. It all makes sense.
@@avocetque My 8th grade teacher made a point of how much he hated it, and I am inclined to agree with them. It paints a very basic “Individuality good, Collectivism bad” idea and I don’t necessarily agree with that.
i havent read the giver but i have read "gathering blue" which is the next in the series i believe I too read it the first time in 6-7 grade but now reading this in high school again and i saw soo many things i missed out, criticisms as well as appreciation for the concepts
"Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions" is an underrated book I would consider a dystopia. It's about shapes living in a 2d world, with class structures based on how many sides a shape has, and throughout the story a square finds out about the third dimension and the other flatlanders refuse to believe him or that there's anything outside of their world. It's scarily accurate to today's society for a book written in 1884.
Depends on the standard of eutopia ('eutopia' meaning 'good place' rather than "utopia" meaning 'no place') you're discussing. If eutopia in this context means nobody experiencing consistent starvation or other suffering, then really pis off with your contrived platitudes. If one way to the minimization of suffering didn't work, we can't just give up and say 'lol fuck all those unfortunates'. That's just an acceptance of the dystopia we already live in. Not that you mind necessarily. Maybe you benefit from it. If by eutopia you mean someplace perfect, where we go beyond the minimization of suffering, to the maximization of the total, distribution, and stability of the amount of autonomy for example, I still must make an objection, though less aggressively. You do not know for certain whether the pursuit of eutopia will always lead to dystopia. In all of our previous attempts, our technology has been sub-optimal; we would in the past have to make sacrifices which future technologies would alleviate the necessity for. The prospect of discouraging improvement just because you made mistakes in that past is so unbelievably silly; much more than I fear misguided eutopia-seekers, I fear misguided reactionaries stifling the benevolent use of new technology in the face of strong evidence of its safety.
First of all, you've made an incorrect assumption about me benefiting from things being the way they are without knowing me--such personal presumptions are so typical of self-righteous commentators & so off the mark. I stand by what I said, perhaps you need to re-watch the video again as the conclusion leads one to critically evaluate the idea of a perfect society and what it takes to obtain/sustain it, then examine whether the practice justifies/nullifies the theory.
The liberal pursuit of utopia during the XVIII century brought you the freedom to say that, to speak your mind freely. The socialist pursuit of utopia during the XX century brought you the welfare and literacy that allow you to write your opinion on a mobile phone. Don't give up on revolution just because it isn't perfect. After all, no combat plan survives contact with the enemy.
*Long story short: **_There won’t and never will be a perfect world, because there can’t be one._* *_Just like there can’t and never will be perfect humans._* *_Because the world is shaped by humanity, and humanity is shaped by the same world they live in._*
But there will be a world that is best for us.Maybe not an Utopia but an Utopia Modified.Its aim would be ensuring that humans live in any way they want but also respecting other peoples liberties too.
There can be a perfect world until humans implement things that solve what they want, greed, the apple of knowledge, power, a faster way of killing anything, every sin you can think of has made this world we live in, and there is nothing wrong with sin, sin is just a word to make people feel bad, dont be a snowflake or a door to door bible preacher
4:10 2001: a space odyssey 4:19 westworld(1973) 4:51 mr.robot 4:55 snowpiercer 4:57 the hunger games 4:59 children of men 5:03 the road(not sure) 5:04 ex machia 5:08 metroplis I dont know what a movie or tv show is at 4:234:264:294:53 if you know about these, pls leave a comment...I can't concentrate on anything because of these...
“and today’s dystopian fiction continues to reflect on modern anxieties about: inequality, climate change, government power and global epidemics” ahhh that didn’t age well
@@appachuru Most of todays dystopian fiction focusses on the young quirky teen with her two love interest and they overthrow the government because why not.
@@appachuru I must have misread. I thought you were saying that the dystopian genre didnt age well, somi made a joke about why. You seem very confused, so i think i read your first commetn wrong. Sorry 😂😂
2:10 As thought-provoking and deep as this video is, I still am unable to get over the fact that they share a single leg and foot between the four of them.
There is a fundamental difference between improving the human condition and believing you can gain eternal perfection. The impossibility of eternal perfection is often used by those in power to keep the underclass from attempting to make real, possible improvements to their lives.
I love dystopia in books, movies, etc to show me how bad things can get and learn how to survive in each scenario... but it quite frightening every time each of those start getting close to reality (just watch news and you'll see symptoms on our everyday lives 🥺)
It also makes you think which of those dystopia stories will come true in the future,, I always wonder if any of it will happen irl considering some are really realistic
It was already building up when humans forced common social norms on each other. Not everyone will feel comfortable living under the circumstances of civilization, some people differ too much in their spiritual needs and in their perception of those social norms to live well along with them. For everyone not finding peace in society, life becomes a dystopia. And I doubt that you can easily find another environment to live in if you don’t have much perspectives
***** - my take is that we are at a stage where our prefrontal cortex and "logic" is directly at odds with our emotional drives. simple observation has shown us that nearly all humans are fundamentally *not* objective beings and now that we have the looming capacity to destroy our entire species (nuclear war, global warming,etc.) can we really afford to *stay* that way? It's really rather horrifying to think that "rational thought" is something that is still up for grabs in human evolution. But there it is.
***** - My position is a little more nuanced than you give me credit for. Humans need some method of self-organization to function as a group. Whether you see the base unit as "the family" or "the tribe", we *always* have. Removing the state creates a power vacuum - which leads to Anarchy - which leads back to Despotism anyway. Like it or not "the State" is the only safeguard we have *against* tyranny. Humanity is just looking for what comes *after* Representative Democracy the same way Representative Democracy came after Monarchy in Europe following the First World War. Government is not properly adapting to new technology and competing moral values so society is increasingly divided between old (xenophobic) and new (globalized) values. The rise of populist leaders, neoconservatives and isolationist governments are all backlash against social changes started in the 90s. (Meanwhile the very idea of saying "we've gone too far" and locking ourselves in an idealized past makes me sick to my stomach) Meanwhile our so-called "representatives" are mired in petty party politics and self-interest. "Moderate" voices are disappearing. Battle lines are being drawn over social (aka. "moral") values. In previous centuries all leaders have governed based on their *beliefs* about the world and society rather than tailor their beliefs to fit what may or may not be "objectively" true. Many recent leaders have acted like science is an *opinion*. It's not. What you and everyone else needs to see is that the scientific method is just a mental tool the same way multiplication is a mental tool. It has no intrinsic moral position or social agenda. It's just the process of describing "what is". And the people who hate math are now in charge of the U.S. and the U.K. for the next 4 years. We are headed for the kinds of social changes that used to happen every millennia but now happen every century or so. There is no easy fix. The "better" values don't always win or the Islamic Golden Age wouldn't have been followed centuries later by ISIS. But now we all have to take sides about what kind of world we want to live in. Because in politics silence is consent.
***** - To answer your comments in order - we need the state to protect us because if we all just look out for ourselves, what happens when the guy next door decides to kick ours down and take our stuff because he is bigger, stronger and has fewer scruples about rape and murder? Alternatively, what happens if a small group of people decide to start murdering everyone who doesn't immediately do what they say? The only solution is an entity big enough and powerful enough to protect all its members from all internal and external threats. A state. *WE* are the state. Governments are meant to create and enforce a set of rules that *everybody* agrees to live by and punishes (or exiles) those who break the rules. Typically these rules are meant to maximize things like individual happiness, social cohesion, or collective defense but there's no reason a state can't decide "all members must wear green because green is the best color." Nature may not require a state but *humans* do. If you do a google search for "successful anarchist societies" the only results that come up only ever lasted for a few years or have never had an external threat to defend against. The only thing that can fight a war as well as a state is another state. And if you can tell me how we are going to abolish war without a global state, I'm all ears. "Social Physics" does not (and can not) exist as a fully-realized scientific discipline. I have some hope for behavioural economics, but if you've ever real the "Foundation" books by Isaac Asimov, he lays out one of fallacies of attempting to statistically analyze and predict human behaviour: It is rendered completely non-functional if everyday people are aware of patterns in their own behaviour. Then, they can consciously choose to reject those patterns at will, rendering the predictive ability of such a "crystal ball" pointless. After that, there's the added problem that if one intended to "scientifically" maximize the good of the group along one metric, then he or she is potentially *deliberately harming* social outliers and minorities, limiting individual choice and curtailing self-expression. Not to mention the ever-present fact that people are fallible and the whole enterprise could be based on false assumptions and general incompetence. No, a "scientifically designed" society is no more likely to be successful than any other existing state or historical model. Incidentally, the last place anyone tried *tried* to implement a top-down reform of society based on some concept of "Social Physics" (aka. Stalinism and Maoism) was Cambodia in 1975. Go look up how well *that* went.
*"Human evolution commences"* - you do know how evolution works right? "Survival of the fittest" means lots and lots of dead people. Are you really okay with that? *"No other thing can offer human evolution into a more advanced race, than liberty"* - I'm partial rational discourse and self-abnegation myself. *"Without a state, no crime will occur"* - give me three honest-to-god historical examples. I *DARE* you. *"Social physics is a society run only on evidence."* - I think the phrase you're looking for is "evidence-based policy". That's already a thing, and I agree that it should be mandatory where possible. Thank you for starting this exchange and I hope the enlightenment has been flowing both ways. I just can't see a way past the need for some form of state and you have an almost religious devotion to the idea that statelessness is a panacea. The truth (as always) probably lies somewhere in the middle. Good night, and whether or not you see fit to continue this tomorrow, I enjoyed it.
Just wow. I think this is officially my favorite TED-Ed video. Perfect in every single bit. Great summarizing, presentation, animation, references and that provocative thought at the end...
The problem with dystopia is that it tends to be reductionist and lead to hopeless thinking. A true Kalostopia would have to be composed of individuals who actually wanted to be there because of agreed upon ideals and a better way of life for everyone. No one there could be forced to think or act a certain way or forced to stay there. The worst thing society can do is give up hope that such a place can exist.
What if We have been fooled into thinking and believing. We get to a place Where we are feeling good and happy about everything ... Not knowing That we have been Beguiled....😮
One of the most fascinating, eye-opening, and terrifyingly accurate Ted Ed videos. Kudos to Ted Ed for putting out all the great educational videos they put out. This one is one of their best videos 👏🏽👏🏽
Adorkable we read 1984 by George Orwell for ours ....common thing about Orwell and Huxley they wrote dystopian novels and were in the Fabian society......like Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn.
There is no such thing as perfect because if we ever reached perfection as a society, we would have no reason to move forward. We can always strive to do and be better and when a challenge presents itself, we face it together.
@@capitalistball2924 since when did youtube added four numbers to our username ? Also, no i said i have no reason to move forward IF society was alredy perfect
i love making dystopian short stories and am currently building up a universe that will hopefully span a series, a novel, and all the short stories i've already made. this gave me a lot of inspiration, thank you
You might want to look at the socialist "hell-holes" of scandinavia........less dysfunction than USA and most countries, less crimes, less teenage pregnancies and so on. Over all measures of societal health they are doing better than USA and all those "conservative" countries. I wonder why.
The best way to get the masses to do what you want them to is to make them think they want to do it. This is how you obtain power with little resistance. Another method is to divide people into opposing factions, so they will be too focused on this division to come together and make a change. 👌
Utopia itself being "no place" makes sense, they knew from the beginning it could be nothing more than a thought experiment, every attempt at utopia fails and becomes a dystopia. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
That one is a sensitive subject since it seems now like a really quite mild description of reality. Who would have guessed that so many people would have simply taken it up voluntarily?
Well it is true. The conceptual basis behind the human drive to create a Utopia is what leads to revolutionary terror, which is the basis for it to become dystopia. And if you critically think about it and take a step back and say that you won't do something like that such as murder opposition in your own moral crusade to create the ideal society, depending on how you define what is Utopia, could you even consider it Utopia at that point?
I imagined a world where I could sit in math without half the class either screaming at eachother or shouting memes, but the ending made me understand that it was just a dream.
2:57 can we all just take a moment to appreciate how well worded those two statements were? like, he could've just said "Like The Soviets and The Nazis" but he talked about what they were about!
I thought it was a dystopia where on the surface where the normal strong people while below that guise where the ugly truth.For example on earth mutants are forced underground just because they don't ft into society.
For me:- Society is like a puzzle Unwanted: - Through education and media, we are all molded into pieces Can you spot the pattern? - Some don`t fit or don`t want to Knowledge: - seeking solace in works and worlds of fiction, in books, games, movies, drugs ect... Sacrifice: Those pieces don`t develop a proper form Obey: - thus they cannot fit with the pieces around them Cage: - But the puzzle is all, there is no other reality or escape Isolation: - These pieces just lies on the top of the picture, cluttering it Extra: - They are unwanted, unecessary and annoying to the rest Test: - Find your shape Your life: - The end
4:18-5:12 movie/TV show references in order: Westworld, Rollerball, Total Recall, Blade Runner, Dr. Strangelove, Watchmen, V For Vendetta, The Handmaid's Tale, Mr. Robot, Elysium, Snowpiercer, The Hunger Games, Children Of Men, The Road, Ex Machina, Metropolis
1984 is the book that truly proved what we are living in a different timeline today. With all while I kept reading the book, even doing it again, it is unbelievable how scary that book was and it's a shame that most people, including the crazy ones, never understand it and called it out an overrated book.
This 5 min TED talk gave me a reading list for an entire year! Dystopian literature is so influential and thought-provoking! I would also add Blindness from José Saramago to the list! The list of the books mentioned is this: • Gulliver's travels • H G Well's - Time Machine (different classes of people evolving into separate species) • Iron heel - Jack London (Tyrannical oligarchy ruling over impoverished masses) • Aldous Huxley's - Brave new world (citizens are genetically engineered and conditioned to perform their social laws, propaganda and drug keep society happy) • "We" - Yevgeny Zamyatin (free will and individuality are eliminated) • Animal farm, by George Orwell • 1984, by George Orwell • Sinclair Lewis' - "It can't happen here" (how easily democracy gave way to fascism) • "Dr Strangelove" and "Watchmen" explored the real threat of nuclear war • "V for Vendetta" and "The Handmail's Tale" - warned how easily our rights could disappear in a crisis - Farenheit 451
Meta-idea: Follow the Idea of "Trying to Utopia that idea into reality will only create a dystopia." and hence NOT to do anything to chase after the idea of Utopia MUST create a dystopia.
I think it's similar to the speed of light. Though a particle of mass can approach it, it can never truly achieve it. We shouldn't give up on our ideals or trying to achieve a happier, healthier, flourishing society. Just use caution, perhaps learned from these cautionary tales, so that we recognize the dangerous paths and avoid them, while pursuing the betterment of our world.
As I didn't found any, I've made a list of the books we can hear about in the video: Utopia - Thomas More Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift The Time Machine - H.G. Wells Iron Heel - Jack London Brave New World - Aldous Huxley We - Yevgeny Zamyatin Animal Farm - Georges Orwell 1984 - Georges Orwell It Can't Happen Here - Sinclair Lewis And for the other medium: Dr. Strangelove Watchmen V for Vendetta The Handmaid's Tale There is also a lot of hints in the picture but I didn't have the time to search for all references, sorry. :)
The scary bit is that good dystopian writers can actually see the future. I remember reading Fahrenheit 451 and now I can see so much of it in real life. I think that 1984 with its Newspeak and Big Brother is where we‘re headed and it‘s horrible.
A former NBA player provided this example of knowledge and wisdom: knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put the tomato in a fruit salad.
And for some people, wisdom is knowing you know nothing at all, Of course your own life experiences are your intellectual property but you still know nothing in the sense that the universe does not revolve around you but you around it. We will be fine. Injustices will be fought, loss of security will be built stronger. Nations do not protect, my people do. The human race I so love and have frustrations with but we will be fine together.
Gilbert Cazares I appreciate your optimism, but the risk of human extinction by humans is real and high. Having obvious problems doesn't mean that we are destined to solve them.
The systems that taught you how to even understand English spoken in this video, gave you an advanced vocabulary, an understanding of mathematics and general thinking skills?..... People I swear think they are just born with everything and just remember school as "oh I hated going to school that place was no fun!" not saying the education system is perfect but ted-ed has not really taught anyone anything significant.
I love that book so much, I think part of what makes it so great is the very fear of the possibility of what our society can become. It is a great example of a dystopia without going as far as the "destruction of the physical world as we know it" caused by a nuclear war or freak work of nature, rather, It displays the evolution of a social dystopia. If anyone reading this is debating whether or not to read Unwind by Neal Shusterman PLEASE READ IT, IT IS SO GOOD!
Educating people and having them realize on their own that ideas like empathy, self insight, character, compassion, selflessness, and humility are more important than ambition, money, adulation, popularity, and power is the only way to have real, lasting change.
I think the problem is people who think they can change the world by following someone else ideas. The truth is: you can only change yourself. "Be the change" Gandhi.
Skywalker1138 Having a good up bringing can make a huge difference to someone's life. But it's not lasting change. One crisis can change a whole society's culture.
I really like the dystopia genre. I know a few movies from the west, but I'm more familiar with anime in that genre. The medium is able to easily create the stories since it doesn't require irl actors/scenes.
Dystopia is the present, the status-quo. We are forced to live in a world where social experimentation and even essential changes are impossible, as every idea and ideal is vehemently rejected as utopian. Dystopia is a society that is so haunted by prophecies of failure, it is denied the opportunity to dream.
A friendly comment: Hello, I want to ensure that I got this video's pop culture references right. 4:12 "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still". 4:18 "Westworld (1973)". 4:23 "Rollerball (1975)". 4:29 "Blade Runner (1982)". 4:34 "Dr. Strangelove". (Obviously stated in the video.) 4:39 "Watchmen". (Also obviously stated in the video.) 4:42 "V for Vendetta". (Ditto.) 4:44 "The Handmaid's Tale". (Ditto.) 4:53 "Mr. Robot" and "Elysium". 4:56 "Snowpiercer" and "The Hunger Games". 5:05 "Ex Machina". 5:08 - 5:12 "Metropolis". What am I missing? I do not know the pop culture references from 5:00 to 5:04? I hope this helped those who were curious. Thank you and have a nice day.
I thought the title said "How to recognize a dyslexia", than I realized it actually said "how to recognize a dystopia", than I realized that this is probably how you recognize a dyslexia.
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This comment is gold
Actually laughed out loud
Dyslexia keeps life interesting sometimes, doesn't it? I've nearly wrecked more than once when I've misread a sign and did a double take. Lol
Oh this made me chuckle out loud!
That last bit there is so well done, when he illustrates how utopian thinking can lead to a dystopia
Yash Srivastava ikr
It also represents capitalism lol
@@tommeng6522 which is sadly the biggest form of economy
The claim that utopian thinking leads to dystopia is
a) a fallacy.
b) comes from a place of privilege.
@@tommeng6522 if you think Capitalism is bad, I want you to say it to someone who lives in India, a place where people couldn't open businesses and now due to Capitalist policies, is now the fastest growing major nation on earth
this narrator's voice is beautiful. Dear Ted if youre listening, please, never lose this guy.
For a second I thought that you thought his name was Ted
shahbaz khan Who's Ted?
+Jim Carrot TED stands for Technology, Entertainment and Design.
+Mar Taf
I think Jim Carrot was joking, because Ted is also a common name and shahbaz forgot to capitalize "TED".
Also, is it just me, or is his voice a little _too_ monotone?
It seems like it's just me anyways...
I love reading dystopian books because they often represent problems we have in our society but exaggeratedly and I think that such as the people in the stories change their worlds we should improve ours too (just preferably not as a revolution like in those books)
no idea who you are but hope you don’t mind if I take this concept for my essay ✊✊
but nothing will change if it is not a revolution , only power can defeat power, and dystopian worlds are a form of power in the hand of those corrupted governors !
What dystopian books do you read?
@@Codo_Lyoko usually the ones that include supernatural stuff; some of my favourites are renegades (Marissa Meyer), the host (Stephenie Meyer), Alice (Christina Henry), spring storm (Marie Graßhoff), shatter me (Tahereh Mafi), elite (Vivien Summer) or anything from Anna Benning (tho I‘m not sure if each of these books would be a perfect example for a dystopia, these are just some that give me a dystopian vibe)
@@whenwillyouwearwigs oh sweet! I don’t really mind if they’re not the most dystopian books, I’m just trying to find books to read in general since im new to it, I’ll probably put some of those on my to-read list after I finish Crime and Punishment (Fyodor Dostoevsky)
The fact that every dystopia is someone's utopia both fascinates and horrifies me at the same time
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Usually because it’s a dystopia for the ones on the bottom, it’s a utopia for the few in power
@@YourPetSnake it's also a utopia for drones empowered by the system's propaganda. See: Brave New World
@@nimbletimplekins7601 that’s a whole other debate. Does a lack of free will with supposedly more happiness real happiness? Are they true,y happy if it’s their only choice? I’m about to go to sleep so I’ll ponder this another time though I’d hear what you have to say :)
@@YourPetSnake it's best embodied by the conflict of collectivism vs individualism. The countries represented are the US who invades others and has handled covid horribly vs China who send minorities to concentration camps and has handled the pandemic amazingly. Who's worse? It depends on who you are and what you believe.
That last bit of imagery was very powerful
indeed
yeah
+Anime Fan I'm not so sure either. But I can say that the video creators imply that the "perfect world" is built upon the foundation of an "imperfect world". In other word, there can't be a completely perfect society.
Well Caen... I agree for a lot of what you said, but that last portion was a bit... I don't know. Impractical? Extreme?
But I won't be the guy who makes the mistake to say it's "wrong". But I want to see if I can offer a better system. Your system has a few flaws. First off, nukes would fuck us all if your system come into being.
But lets assume there are no nukes, what you proposed is not really a system, it's a lack of one. What you proposed is anarchy. One of the basic principles of government is that since anarchy is the rock bottom, things can only get more orderly from anarchy. From anarchy, the most common thing to arise is a monarchy. This would be your "big ball of evil none of them will dare fuck with". But monarchies don't last. "Big balls of evil" fall, every time.
So your system just leads us backward, where we are is definitely better than that.
Alright, so now we need a better system than yours. Well... our current one is better then yours, but it's still pretty shit.
The best system for government so far has been a benevolent monarchy. A monarch who does good to the people and improves on preexisting infrastructure. The only problems is that people die, and their successor may be horrible. But during the time a benevolent monarch is alive, countries make the most progress and are generally in the best state.
What we need is a benevolent monarch who doesn't die... a decent AI. For now that's all hopes and dreams, but that would be the best system of government. That is, if you can't think of a better one.
But Austin there is still a problem with that. You've forgotten that every monarch in history no matter how benevolent is not infallible. And that's talking about internal and external toxicity. A benevolent AI is no exception to this. There will be imperfection in the ability to govern to ensure happiness and there will be a chance the program could somehow become corrupted. For a human the corruption would come because of temptation; for the AI the corruption could come from a tiny undetectable flaw in reasoning and logic that would exponentially grow and taint the rest of the programing over time. There is no way to insure that any one person or thing we place absolute power on could ensure the happiness of all kinds Because some logic has to be put over others. That is why we have democracy were the people decide who and what they are governed by. I relize that system hasn't been perfect but haven't you ever thought that might not be the systems fault? Democracy depends on the decisions of the people. What if the people part of democracy make the wrong decision for themselves? In that case, would it even be the governments fault? Has it ever been the case where it's been all our fault and we just blamed the government? A totalitarian regime is too easy to fall into corruption. Even an immortal AI can't be infallible to earth shattering mistakes. And even if it is it can't stay that way forever. Nothing last's forever. Ideas change and power shifts. In that sense change is the only certainty. In the past we were convinced that whatever regime we were in was perfect and the only way it could end was by external forces. Now we've almost done a 360. Now we see more threats coming from inside our regimes than from without. I'd say it's impossible to make a system that can't be spectacularly demolished from either and even more unlikely to make them infallible to both. I understand this was about thinking up a better system instead of a perfect one, but I think that some form of democracy is the best we've got. Simply for the reason that it can change and shift power inside of itself peacefully. Like I said change is the one certainty.
Things mentioned in the video that you may want to refer to after the video to expand your knowledge-
¬Utopia
¬Gulliver's Travels
¬The Time Machine
¬The Iron Heel
¬Brave New World
¬Animal Farm
¬1984
¬We
¬Handmaid's Tale
¬It Can't Happen Here
¬V for Vendetta
Parijat thank you, so much
Little suggestion for you if you’ve never heard of it before, Inside is a really cool dystopian based game. Check it out.
also other examples referenced in 4:53 are
-Mr. Robot
-Elysium
-Snowpiercer
-Hunger Games
-Children of Men
-The Road
im not sure what the last one is
@@ChannelSwitcher it's Ex Machina 2014
Hi, I am Aqua and I am writing a book about our utopia of a dystopia. I will love It if someone supports me.
*Oui*
Love others as I love my self-
That is all we need to make a paradise on earth because people are so good at making others suffer.
But what is love? And what actions can be deemed loving?
Baby don't hurt me
@AbubakarRaji-c2z Love is willing for someone's good. It's the opposite of hate - which would be willing for someone's bad. The sentence implies you must care about others as you care about your own good. If you fight for something considered morally virtuous, for example, you're loving society.
@WovenAlloy of course but you understand by nurture we are going to come to different conclusions for what is love no? And loving society... you understand that there are some societies in which the greatest action of love you could give them is shunning. Look I'm not against what the original commenter is saying, I'm just looking at how it can be twisted.
Damn, school seems pointless when you can just watch this channel all day
Ooh yes
Cheaper too.
MatPat + TedED = Unstoppable Hyperintelligent Ruler of the Universe
School is designed for the mundane and average.
2×(3-2×(23÷1)-38) = ?
Basically, what I got from this is that it is impossible for humanity to achieve perfection.
We are living in a utopia already, don't you see? It has everything: happiness, sadness, the freedom to learn, the censorship of knowledge, progress, tragedy, peace, war, the room for growth...
We are living in the best which society can be...
We have different ways of defining utopia
there is no such thing as perfection
That's why it's called "utopia".
Hello Pangloss ;-)
The utopia of some is the dystopia of others.
Absolutely
You could not be more correct, and I could not agree more.
Not if you take your soma....just cople of half gram tablets a day...
I question this statement. Dystopia can be a world of Kafka, where everyone, including the so-called leader may not be happy at all. Nonetheless, everyone fear that the world would get even worse if the order is threatened so nobody dare to change. Then they start defending and legitimizing the tyranny.
@@Kalorag gimme like 3
I read the Gulliver's Travels when I was 14. I thought it to be a children's book and it never striked me to be a dystopia or a satire... The older I'm the more comlicated my life is getting! :')
Swift was a master of allegory. Allegory doesn't work with kids.. not enough experience. And I thought the same as you when I was a kid.
Same here.
Father taught me, "Utopia and Dystopia are the same thing. It's called Utopia on paper, and Dystopia, when you make it real."
The older I am, the more I understand that.
@Mungo McGhee Because people still believe utopias are real and through this assumption, they make even more mess ? If so, I definitely agree.
Your father is/was a damn savant. That's for sure.
I wish I heard this earlier, it’s a good way to put the phenomena into words.
Can we say that it appears that the best is bad, the worst is bad too; so we are technically better off with all the mess we already have and not venturing for the other two states. but second thought tells us that we are as bad as the two(essentially one) extremes, because we are already suffering immensely, considering the worst pain is the pain in the present. but (personal opinion alert) this will likely defeat the theories that suggest to live your own good life(like existentialism) because we have no where to go.
@@PewPewBadaBoom Thanks for the comment. I would like to ask, can You elaborate more on the thought that the actual state - in between the extremes, or as You said, outside the one extreme - is seen as an immense suffering ? Are You pointing at the buddhistic view of our life, or something else ? Thanks in advance. :)
TED-Ed: ...The floating island of Laputa...
Spanish speakers: THE ISLAND OF THE WHAT!?!?
Hah
It translates to laputa..?
@@rohentahir4696 laputa + space bar is la (which means "the" (feminine)) "p*ta" which is really strong swear word
Oh ok
As i understand correctly It is The floating island of B*tches right?
That ending was amazing. Thanks for this!
1ucasvb if it is not perfect then it can not be ideal. meaning: it might be difficult but I refuse tu believe imposible. So ue need to keep trying...
+David Pérez Agreed, I believe Utopia is achievable.
+Jakov Vodanovic
How so?
I suggest reading about anarchism. Btw, the idea that "utopia is impossible" does not justify that we should live in a crappy world.
Totally agreed, +Siniša Cvetić. My praise was towards the presentation.
Dystopia is my favorite genre to read. I love a well crafted idea that looks so nice and shiny on the outside and the deeper you dig the more horrifying it becomes.
"no place" - the place for me! ^_^
The idea of Utopia is flawed in its very concept. To wit:
1. In a Utopian society, everyone is happy because all conflict has been eliminated.
2. To eliminate conflict, one must root out its primary source: human individuality
3. In eradicating human individuality, one effectively destroys the very spirit of humanity.
4. When the human spirit has been destroyed, happiness is unattainable.
This is essentially why every society that has attempted to establish the ideal Utopia (the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, East Germany, Maoist China) has ended up a totalitarian nightmare.
Conflict is the price we pay for allowing every individual to express him or herself. That price is acceptable when compared to the alternatives.
MisterVercetti yes ,but if some right the fights we when will be minor and personal like a bar fight for example. If it wasn’t for corruption on the enormous power of money a lot of wars would not be happening right now including famines, diseases, etc.
this hit me *_hard_*
I think you need to clarify the second point where you say, no conflict = no individuality.
AHAHAHAHAH, are you just attacking communism
A semi-utopia is the best we can hope for
A perfect world is impossible, but each individual should strive to make it better.
cue Edgy teens
That sounds horrible... Ethics and morals are trippy
That sounds like what a dystopian government would say
Why would I try to make a broken world better if I know it can't become any better.
@@eganplaysMC woah edgelord warning
The concept of a utopia is perfection, and everyone is happy. I remember reading The Giver in 7th grade and they thought they had a utopia but they actually had a dystopia. The concept of a dystopia is lots of flaws, and everyone is miserable. It all makes sense.
I know im a year late but I have to say im reading the giver right now
Edit: Just finished it
Makes sense that it is a 7th grade text, given how useless and cynical it is.
I just read the giver too, in 7th grade! It's an amazing book and written well.
@@avocetque My 8th grade teacher made a point of how much he hated it, and I am inclined to agree with them. It paints a very basic “Individuality good, Collectivism bad” idea and I don’t necessarily agree with that.
i havent read the giver but i have read "gathering blue" which is the next in the series i believe
I too read it the first time in 6-7 grade but now reading this in high school again and i saw soo many things i missed out, criticisms as well as appreciation for the concepts
"Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions" is an underrated book I would consider a dystopia. It's about shapes living in a 2d world, with class structures based on how many sides a shape has, and throughout the story a square finds out about the third dimension and the other flatlanders refuse to believe him or that there's anything outside of their world. It's scarily accurate to today's society for a book written in 1884.
Whoever does the animation on these videos needs a raise
Ya that's actually quite well done
10000%
Yes😊
“How to recognise a dystopia”
*Looks out the window*
Yeah, I reckon we’re just about there...
Whooa We're halfway there
Edit: Since you guys left me hanging
WHOOAAA LIVING ON A PRAYER
Yeap
I'd say we're about a month or two away.
yes life is so hard for us...
and our freedoms are so limited...
we clearly live in the worst of times...
@@definitelynotcole I know right.. Unbearable.
And then, the fire nation attacked.
CheerwineIsLit butI believe, Ang can save the world!
Lmfao
CheerwineIsLit lol
yup
when the world needed him the most...HE VANISHED
This video is uh... very relevant right now. At least in the U.S.A.
If history has taught us anything, it's that human pursuit of utopia will always lead to dystopia. Take life as it is, as change is a process.
True
Depends on the standard of eutopia ('eutopia' meaning 'good place' rather than "utopia" meaning 'no place') you're discussing. If eutopia in this context means nobody experiencing consistent starvation or other suffering, then really pis off with your contrived platitudes. If one way to the minimization of suffering didn't work, we can't just give up and say 'lol fuck all those unfortunates'. That's just an acceptance of the dystopia we already live in. Not that you mind necessarily. Maybe you benefit from it.
If by eutopia you mean someplace perfect, where we go beyond the minimization of suffering, to the maximization of the total, distribution, and stability of the amount of autonomy for example, I still must make an objection, though less aggressively. You do not know for certain whether the pursuit of eutopia will always lead to dystopia. In all of our previous attempts, our technology has been sub-optimal; we would in the past have to make sacrifices which future technologies would alleviate the necessity for. The prospect of discouraging improvement just because you made mistakes in that past is so unbelievably silly; much more than I fear misguided eutopia-seekers, I fear misguided reactionaries stifling the benevolent use of new technology in the face of strong evidence of its safety.
First of all, you've made an incorrect assumption about me benefiting from things being the way they are without knowing me--such personal presumptions are so typical of self-righteous commentators & so off the mark. I stand by what I said, perhaps you need to re-watch the video again as the conclusion leads one to critically evaluate the idea of a perfect society and what it takes to obtain/sustain it, then examine whether the practice justifies/nullifies the theory.
nonetheless...
AMERICA WILL BE GREAT AGAIN!!
The liberal pursuit of utopia during the XVIII century brought you the freedom to say that, to speak your mind freely. The socialist pursuit of utopia during the XX century brought you the welfare and literacy that allow you to write your opinion on a mobile phone. Don't give up on revolution just because it isn't perfect. After all, no combat plan survives contact with the enemy.
*Long story short: **_There won’t and never will be a perfect world, because there can’t be one._*
*_Just like there can’t and never will be perfect humans._*
*_Because the world is shaped by humanity, and humanity is shaped by the same world they live in._*
But there will be a world that is best for us.Maybe not an Utopia but an Utopia Modified.Its aim would be ensuring that humans live in any way they want but also respecting other peoples liberties too.
Ngl i read the first comment in Morgan freeman's voice
@@mhyvegelbolingo746 I take it as a compliment so thank you.
There can be a perfect world until humans implement things that solve what they want, greed, the apple of knowledge, power, a faster way of killing anything, every sin you can think of has made this world we live in, and there is nothing wrong with sin, sin is just a word to make people feel bad, dont be a snowflake or a door to door bible preacher
Maybe an utopia is a world without total happiness? Ever thought of that? Being happy most of the time makes up for an utopia.
Brave New World is such as good book, I would recommend it to everyone. This dystopia / utopia resembles our current society closer than 1984 does.
And a better instruction manual for politicians. The computer I am typing on is more of a soma than a telescreen.
I’d say that depends on a country we are talking about
It is a great book. Are we there yet? Oh yes we are.
Honestly, it really depends on whether you’re reading it by choice or not. I read it for High School, and it was awful. I genuinely hated it.
I’d read the book but the nanotechnology in my brain is commanding me not to.
4:10 2001: a space odyssey
4:19 westworld(1973)
4:51 mr.robot
4:55 snowpiercer
4:57 the hunger games
4:59 children of men
5:03 the road(not sure)
5:04 ex machia
5:08 metroplis
I dont know what a movie or tv show is at 4:23 4:26 4:29 4:53 if you know about these, pls leave a comment...I can't concentrate on anything because of these...
i think 4:29 is Blade Runner
Yep😊
“and today’s dystopian fiction continues to reflect on modern anxieties about: inequality, climate change, government power and global epidemics”
ahhh that didn’t age well
LoVe TriAngLeS
Bella Crafts ?
@@appachuru Most of todays dystopian fiction focusses on the young quirky teen with her two love interest and they overthrow the government because why not.
@@bellac6311 i literally just quoted the video what-
@@appachuru I must have misread. I thought you were saying that the dystopian genre didnt age well, somi made a joke about why. You seem very confused, so i think i read your first commetn wrong. Sorry 😂😂
The ending is sooo damn good. A perfect world in one's eyes could be misery in others.
2:10 As thought-provoking and deep as this video is, I still am unable to get over the fact that they share a single leg and foot between the four of them.
bro made me crack up in a dead serious video
There is a fundamental difference between improving the human condition and believing you can gain eternal perfection.
The impossibility of eternal perfection is often used by those in power to keep the underclass from attempting to make real, possible improvements to their lives.
I love dystopia in books, movies, etc to show me how bad things can get and learn how to survive in each scenario... but it quite frightening every time each of those start getting close to reality (just watch news and you'll see symptoms on our everyday lives 🥺)
It also makes you think which of those dystopia stories will come true in the future,, I always wonder if any of it will happen irl considering some are really realistic
Some people can channel with it and write about it because it’s another reality that exists and can come real any moment.
it is because the books act as a guide.
Forming opinions about the world by looking at the media is like forming opinions about me by looking at my feet - Hans rosling, factfulness
In fiction people survive not true of reality though even if you endure it years it wears you down eventually.
when you realize everyone is starting to think the same, look the same, dress the same... something's really wrong
its a prison.
Isn’t this just primary school?
@@Phychologik Well it's depend on what school you studied. In Vietnam, we wear uniform from primary to high school.
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 *Concentration or Labor Camp
@@omninulluser343 both
At its heart, the achievement of utopia itself reflects a dystopian world.
Not really. Look at Bhutan, people are free, happy and at peace.
@@pankhuribhatnagar2360 sounds BS
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 have you ever been to bhutan? Or know anything about the country?
Pankhuri Bhatnagar Human nature restricts utopia
@@pankhuribhatnagar2360 Basically the Switzerland of Asia
I was always excitedly anticipating a post apocalyptic dystopia, until I realized we are already living in it. It happened while we were distracted.
It was already building up when humans forced common social norms on each other. Not everyone will feel comfortable living under the circumstances of civilization, some people differ too much in their spiritual needs and in their perception of those social norms to live well along with them. For everyone not finding peace in society, life becomes a dystopia. And I doubt that you can easily find another environment to live in if you don’t have much perspectives
I don't know about that, the power is still on over here. I'll believe it from the store is empty and people start eating each other.
Alright everyone. Thats enough sedition, back to obedience for all of you.
im gonna steal this joke later on.
thats how funny i found it
💯 Facts
@@ironcheater1012 Its my pleasure :)
What are 3 events/changes throughout the 20th-century that inspired dystopian fiction?
@@TheRealJahmyaa Monday, Tuesday, Wednsday
How to know you are in a dystopia:
Step 1: realize you are alive
Step 2: there is no step 2
deep
Doomer
Shane Cash Okay, monomer.
@Daniella Nanjari nah that's a doomer, many zoomers like me isn't a doomer
@Daniella Nanjari Well, for now atleast.
Sinclair Lewis' book 'It Can't Happen Here' is really great, and I think many more people should be reading it now.
Especially considering that it just HAPPENED...
***** - my take is that we are at a stage where our prefrontal cortex and "logic" is directly at odds with our emotional drives.
simple observation has shown us that nearly all humans are fundamentally *not* objective beings and now that we have the looming capacity to destroy our entire species (nuclear war, global warming,etc.) can we really afford to *stay* that way?
It's really rather horrifying to think that "rational thought" is something that is still up for grabs in human evolution. But there it is.
***** - My position is a little more nuanced than you give me credit for. Humans need some method of self-organization to function as a group. Whether you see the base unit as "the family" or "the tribe", we *always* have. Removing the state creates a power vacuum - which leads to Anarchy - which leads back to Despotism anyway. Like it or not "the State" is the only safeguard we have *against* tyranny.
Humanity is just looking for what comes *after* Representative Democracy the same way Representative Democracy came after Monarchy in Europe following the First World War. Government is not properly adapting to new technology and competing moral values so society is increasingly divided between old (xenophobic) and new (globalized) values. The rise of populist leaders, neoconservatives and isolationist governments are all backlash against social changes started in the 90s.
(Meanwhile the very idea of saying "we've gone too far" and locking ourselves in an idealized past makes me sick to my stomach)
Meanwhile our so-called "representatives" are mired in petty party politics and self-interest. "Moderate" voices are disappearing. Battle lines are being drawn over social (aka. "moral") values.
In previous centuries all leaders have governed based on their *beliefs* about the world and society rather than tailor their beliefs to fit what may or may not be "objectively" true. Many recent leaders have acted like science is an *opinion*. It's not.
What you and everyone else needs to see is that the scientific method is just a mental tool the same way multiplication is a mental tool. It has no intrinsic moral position or social agenda. It's just the process of describing "what is". And the people who hate math are now in charge of the U.S. and the U.K. for the next 4 years.
We are headed for the kinds of social changes that used to happen every millennia but now happen every century or so. There is no easy fix. The "better" values don't always win or the Islamic Golden Age wouldn't have been followed centuries later by ISIS. But now we all have to take sides about what kind of world we want to live in. Because in politics silence is consent.
***** - To answer your comments in order - we need the state to protect us because if we all just look out for ourselves, what happens when the guy next door decides to kick ours down and take our stuff because he is bigger, stronger and has fewer scruples about rape and murder? Alternatively, what happens if a small group of people decide to start murdering everyone who doesn't immediately do what they say? The only solution is an entity big enough and powerful enough to protect all its members from all internal and external threats. A state.
*WE* are the state. Governments are meant to create and enforce a set of rules that *everybody* agrees to live by and punishes (or exiles) those who break the rules. Typically these rules are meant to maximize things like individual happiness, social cohesion, or collective defense but there's no reason a state can't decide "all members must wear green because green is the best color."
Nature may not require a state but *humans* do. If you do a google search for "successful anarchist societies" the only results that come up only ever lasted for a few years or have never had an external threat to defend against. The only thing that can fight a war as well as a state is another state. And if you can tell me how we are going to abolish war without a global state, I'm all ears.
"Social Physics" does not (and can not) exist as a fully-realized scientific discipline. I have some hope for behavioural economics, but if you've ever real the "Foundation" books by Isaac Asimov, he lays out one of fallacies of attempting to statistically analyze and predict human behaviour: It is rendered completely non-functional if everyday people are aware of patterns in their own behaviour. Then, they can consciously choose to reject those patterns at will, rendering the predictive ability of such a "crystal ball" pointless.
After that, there's the added problem that if one intended to "scientifically" maximize the good of the group along one metric, then he or she is potentially *deliberately harming* social outliers and minorities, limiting individual choice and curtailing self-expression. Not to mention the ever-present fact that people are fallible and the whole enterprise could be based on false assumptions and general incompetence. No, a "scientifically designed" society is no more likely to be successful than any other existing state or historical model.
Incidentally, the last place anyone tried *tried* to implement a top-down reform of society based on some concept of "Social Physics" (aka. Stalinism and Maoism) was Cambodia in 1975. Go look up how well *that* went.
*"Human evolution commences"* - you do know how evolution works right? "Survival of the fittest" means lots and lots of dead people. Are you really okay with that?
*"No other thing can offer human evolution into a more advanced race, than liberty"* - I'm partial rational discourse and self-abnegation myself.
*"Without a state, no crime will occur"* - give me three honest-to-god historical examples. I *DARE* you.
*"Social physics is a society run only on evidence."* - I think the phrase you're looking for is "evidence-based policy". That's already a thing, and I agree that it should be mandatory where possible.
Thank you for starting this exchange and I hope the enlightenment has been flowing both ways. I just can't see a way past the need for some form of state and you have an almost religious devotion to the idea that statelessness is a panacea. The truth (as always) probably lies somewhere in the middle. Good night, and whether or not you see fit to continue this tomorrow, I enjoyed it.
Just wow. I think this is officially my favorite TED-Ed video. Perfect in every single bit. Great summarizing, presentation, animation, references and that provocative thought at the end...
2020
Ted ed: "A global epidemic"
Hmm... that sounds familiar.
OOF, this hit for some reason
@@rahmahassaf2275 the train (edit: reason**) being a global ongoing pandemic for more than a year and half 😀
@@sparklypri for some reason, I almost had a stroke reading that. And yeah ):
"the future is bright!" - black mirror
"The future is so bright I don't need eyes to see it."
-Ron Paul
Carlos I love Black Mirror!
Which episode
The problem with dystopia is that it tends to be reductionist and lead to hopeless thinking. A true Kalostopia would have to be composed of individuals who actually wanted to be there because of agreed upon ideals and a better way of life for everyone. No one there could be forced to think or act a certain way or forced to stay there. The worst thing society can do is give up hope that such a place can exist.
THANKYOU.
Tbh, this sounds exactly like the shrunken-people town in that movie Downsizing!
What if We have been fooled into thinking and believing. We get to a place Where we are feeling good and happy about everything ...
Not knowing That we have been Beguiled....😮
One of the most fascinating, eye-opening, and terrifyingly accurate Ted Ed videos. Kudos to Ted Ed for putting out all the great educational videos they put out. This one is one of their best videos 👏🏽👏🏽
"We become what we behold, we shape our tools and our tools shape us."
- Marshall Mcluhan
churchill
Omg the moment I saw "dystopia" you are a god I have an english exam tomorrow and guess what the theme for one of the essays :O DYSTOPIA
Adorkable Congratulations, you are slightly less screwed tomorrow!
Adorkable we read 1984 by George Orwell for ours ....common thing about Orwell and Huxley they wrote dystopian novels and were in the Fabian society......like Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn.
"Island of (la puta)" . Laughs in Spanish
yup 😂 😂
PIJUS MAGNIFICUS and in tagalog
Jajajajaja
PIJUS MAGNIFICUS hahahaha lol thats a swear word in phillipines
como lo zupo :'v
There is no such thing as perfect because if we ever reached perfection as a society, we would have no reason to move forward. We can always strive to do and be better and when a challenge presents itself, we face it together.
We have no reason to move forward because everything is already perfect so i don't see how it's a bad thing
@@grenouillesupreme in a spiritual sense, I agree.
@@grenouillesupreme Here we can see the ideal worker, someone who the ruling class loves to exploit.
@@capitalistball2924 since when did youtube added four numbers to our username ? Also, no i said i have no reason to move forward IF society was alredy perfect
i love making dystopian short stories and am currently building up a universe that will hopefully span a series, a novel, and all the short stories i've already made. this gave me a lot of inspiration, thank you
Where are you now with novel and all?
@@anushshah21 idk but its real now
What do you post your work on?
Do these stories involve food service work?
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Loved this! Perfectly timed with all the mess in the world right now
independent thinker716 everything has a price. some of the destabilization of those regions are caused by our greed
BanaMUA Yeah, most of the world's countries are socialist hell holes
Trump especially!
Independent thinker, NAtionalism is causing problems, USA is a shining example of it.
You might want to look at the socialist "hell-holes" of scandinavia........less dysfunction than USA and most countries, less crimes, less teenage pregnancies and so on.
Over all measures of societal health they are doing better than USA and all those "conservative" countries. I wonder why.
The best way to get the masses to do what you want them to is to make them think they want to do it. This is how you obtain power with little resistance. Another method is to divide people into opposing factions, so they will be too focused on this division to come together and make a change. 👌
Congratulations! You just described US politics!
@@rei_cirith Remove "US" and the statement still holds true.
This sounds a whole lot like the societies described in _1984_ and _Divergent_ . They are dystopias though
Thanks for the help in creating a country
@@8Hshan there is no US
These ted ed videos on topics like these are one of my favourite things on TH-cam
then go get a life
Utopia itself being "no place" makes sense, they knew from the beginning it could be nothing more than a thought experiment, every attempt at utopia fails and becomes a dystopia. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Title: *"How to Recognize a Dystopia"*
**goes on google and looks at all the news**
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I can easily recognize a dystopian society.
Well, if that’s what you thought, give it another few months and pop back to give me an update. Hmm
@@Bruhmoment-tk4hm looks like Biden is giving Americans a plan for COVID wonder why.
@@Bruhmoment-tk4hm then that means you didn’t look on his webpage to see what he was talking about. Stop repeating the media and do research.
@@Bruhmoment-tk4hm did you look at his web page, it seems like a better plan to me.
Yeah, this is totally definitely the worst time to be alive... totally... the world is the worst it has ever been...
How did you not mention Fahrenheit 451!?
That one is a sensitive subject since it seems now like a really quite mild description of reality. Who would have guessed that so many people would have simply taken it up voluntarily?
i'm actually reading that book right now!
***** actually, i'm in 8th grade reading it XD
Read that in rehab. Super powerful and beautiful
The ending when he described how achieving a utopia would create a dystopia shook me. And how calm he sounded made it worse
Well it is true. The conceptual basis behind the human drive to create a Utopia is what leads to revolutionary terror, which is the basis for it to become dystopia. And if you critically think about it and take a step back and say that you won't do something like that such as murder opposition in your own moral crusade to create the ideal society, depending on how you define what is Utopia, could you even consider it Utopia at that point?
I'm on a TedEd binge, who's with me?
Galaxy Mew YAS MAAM
lmao me
Nah im watching this for class lol
Galaxy Mew Yesss
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A perfect world is one without humanity
iTeCnus edgy
Gotta stay sharp these days.
that's pretty edgy
No, no it wouldn't
iTeCnus this is truth. life cannot exist at all for peace to reign. it's not possible bc not everyone has the same idea of what peace is.
I imagined a world where I could sit in math without half the class either screaming at eachother or shouting memes, but the ending made me understand that it was just a dream.
ok boomer.
Felix The Lemon don’t worry, give it couple years and it will happen
FnafCinema dude how can he be a boomer if he’s young enough to be in school? Don’t be rude
@@marcar9marcar972 r/wooosh
@@gharfeeld ok redditor
2:57 can we all just take a moment to appreciate how well worded those two statements were?
like, he could've just said "Like The Soviets and The Nazis" but he talked about what they were about!
Yes indeed😊
China sees 1984
"Is this an instructional manual?"
Your Neighbour 🤣
Your Neighbour lmao
Hey, you just wrote the script for a new Star Trek episode.
ALWAYS HAS BEEN
@你好- CHINESE ALERT, CHINESE ALERT
so Futurama actually takes place in a well disguised dystopia
Futurama is actually seems to be a Utopia but it's resident's are dystopic.
I thought it was a dystopia where on the surface where the normal strong people while below that guise where the ugly truth.For example on earth mutants are forced underground just because they don't ft into society.
Futurama is actually an entirely different trope altogether, it's a crapsack world.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld
+Mo Killem
And that would be a crapsaccharine world.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsaccharineWorld
Valter Sarajevo Excacty.
For me:- Society is like a puzzle
Unwanted: - Through education and media, we are all molded into pieces
Can you spot the pattern? - Some don`t fit or don`t want to
Knowledge: - seeking solace in works and worlds of fiction, in books, games, movies, drugs ect...
Sacrifice: Those pieces don`t develop a proper form
Obey: - thus they cannot fit with the pieces around them
Cage: - But the puzzle is all, there is no other reality or escape
Isolation: - These pieces just lies on the top of the picture, cluttering it
Extra: - They are unwanted, unecessary and annoying to the rest
Test: - Find your shape
Your life: - The end
That took me a while to catch on.
InsertUsername
I dont get it 😌
It's basically an acrostic poem.
Read the first letter of every line
Ow the Edge.
4:08 that oddly satisfying part when the horizon lines up with the center of the division
4:18-5:12 movie/TV show references in order: Westworld, Rollerball, Total Recall, Blade Runner, Dr. Strangelove, Watchmen, V For Vendetta, The Handmaid's Tale, Mr. Robot, Elysium, Snowpiercer, The Hunger Games, Children Of Men, The Road, Ex Machina, Metropolis
antaed thanks, I'm going check out all of these
Thank you, I was looking for this
thank u
Sooooo.... what's zootopia
(NO ZOO)- probably not though- my latin is way to rusty for this...
I think topia means place and zoo means animal soooo
animalplace?
Emily Le
A story about a police officer and a hustler who stop a plot to stir up crazy amounts of racism with a fake epidemic?
Zootopia's a dystopia disguised as a utopia.
Say that five times fast.
A Furry dystopia.
If somebody wants to learn dystopian literature, then I recommend "1984" and "Farenheit 451".
Prime Royal yes they are both great
Don't forget metamorphosis by Kafka
And 2020
@@yt-aperson Lol
brave new world
1984 is the book that truly proved what we are living in a different timeline today. With all while I kept reading the book, even doing it again, it is unbelievable how scary that book was and it's a shame that most people, including the crazy ones, never understand it and called it out an overrated book.
This 5 min TED talk gave me a reading list for an entire year! Dystopian literature is so influential and thought-provoking! I would also add Blindness from José Saramago to the list! The list of the books mentioned is this:
• Gulliver's travels
• H G Well's - Time Machine (different classes of people evolving into separate species)
• Iron heel - Jack London (Tyrannical oligarchy ruling over impoverished masses)
• Aldous Huxley's - Brave new world (citizens are genetically engineered and conditioned to perform their social laws, propaganda and drug keep society happy)
• "We" - Yevgeny Zamyatin (free will and individuality are eliminated)
• Animal farm, by George Orwell
• 1984, by George Orwell
• Sinclair Lewis' - "It can't happen here" (how easily democracy gave way to fascism)
• "Dr Strangelove" and "Watchmen" explored the real threat of nuclear war
• "V for Vendetta" and "The Handmail's Tale" - warned how easily our rights could disappear in a crisis
- Farenheit 451
Thank you so much! I was going to compile 1 for me as well.
We is the best of that bunch.
Utopia is only an idea, Trying to bring that idea into reality will only create a dystopia.
Meta-idea: Follow the Idea of "Trying to Utopia that idea into reality will only create a dystopia." and hence NOT to do anything to chase after the idea of Utopia MUST create a dystopia.
basically no matter what you do your fucked
I think it's similar to the speed of light. Though a particle of mass can approach it, it can never truly achieve it.
We shouldn't give up on our ideals or trying to achieve a happier, healthier, flourishing society.
Just use caution, perhaps learned from these cautionary tales, so that we recognize the dangerous paths and avoid them, while pursuing the betterment of our world.
TheOneBadAssGamer well...if u put it that way...then Yes.
I think it is because we are not united to cause of well being. Humans are greedy and capitalism is best way for greed, but is it the good way?
As I didn't found any, I've made a list of the books we can hear about in the video:
Utopia - Thomas More
Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift
The Time Machine - H.G. Wells
Iron Heel - Jack London
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
We - Yevgeny Zamyatin
Animal Farm - Georges Orwell
1984 - Georges Orwell
It Can't Happen Here - Sinclair Lewis
And for the other medium:
Dr. Strangelove
Watchmen
V for Vendetta
The Handmaid's Tale
There is also a lot of hints in the picture but I didn't have the time to search for all references, sorry. :)
Mathrey
Blade Runner
Metropolis
The Road
I add a bit
2001: A Space Odyssey
Snowpiercer
Ex Machina
The scary bit is that good dystopian writers can actually see the future. I remember reading Fahrenheit 451 and now I can see so much of it in real life. I think that 1984 with its Newspeak and Big Brother is where we‘re headed and it‘s horrible.
There's something about "utopia" meaning 'no place' that tug at my heartstrings.
Knowledge is power, but power corrupts
Ironwolf That is where wisdom comes in.
We should aim to be super villains then!
A former NBA player provided this example of knowledge and wisdom: knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put the tomato in a fruit salad.
And for some people, wisdom is knowing you know nothing at all, Of course your own life experiences are your intellectual property but you still know nothing in the sense that the universe does not revolve around you but you around it. We will be fine. Injustices will be fought, loss of security will be built stronger. Nations do not protect, my people do. The human race I so love and have frustrations with but we will be fine together.
Gilbert Cazares I appreciate your optimism, but the risk of human extinction by humans is real and high. Having obvious problems doesn't mean that we are destined to solve them.
Can we please take a moment to honor the wonderful writing, emotional narration and haunting and lively animation of these TED-Ed videos.
"Better never means better for everyone. It's always worse for someone" - The Handmaid's Tale
TED-ED is more educating than all educational systems I’ve ever been a part of.
The systems that taught you how to even understand English spoken in this video, gave you an advanced vocabulary, an understanding of mathematics and general thinking skills?..... People I swear think they are just born with everything and just remember school as "oh I hated going to school that place was no fun!"
not saying the education system is perfect but ted-ed has not really taught anyone anything significant.
Ted Ed better than school? Oooohh, what a silly duck... you are a good boy.
You don't have to speculate what dystopia looks like anymore...we're living it.
Even before the pandemic, the world is already dystopian.
The thing is, we have lived in a dystopia since the dawn of civilisation. Utopia literally means “no place”.
@@debayanbhowmik8085 Cool story, bro. You're missing the point.
What country do you live in, though?
@@luront4195 where humans exist, "dystopia" follows. we are never perfect
"Well, you know, it would be a utopia if *I* was in charge..."
Said every politician ever.
Асен Доцински a utopia for u not for everyone else
' ' It will work this time ' '
"just trust me..."
Recommending this to me in 2024 feels like TH-cam is telling me that something is about to happen
Rise of nations
This is literally me when the person I don't like wins a democratic election.
You still don’t like to have the person, even republicans were doing a white washed battleship Potkemin last time their opponents lost
They made us read Unwind in school for an example of a dystopia, which is frankly the most fucked up example they could have chosen
I love that book so much, I think part of what makes it so great is the very fear of the possibility of what our society can become. It is a great example of a dystopia without going as far as the "destruction of the physical world as we know it" caused by a nuclear war or freak work of nature, rather, It displays the evolution of a social dystopia. If anyone reading this is debating whether or not to read Unwind by Neal Shusterman PLEASE READ IT, IT IS SO GOOD!
yeah but for school??!?!?
Just read it if you can get your hands on it, it is so good!
who are you advertising to, I already read it
Sam Hyde Land.
One of the best video essay I've ever seen. The argument compelling and finely crafted; the final is great!
Educating people and having them realize on their own that ideas like empathy, self insight, character, compassion, selflessness, and humility are more important than ambition, money, adulation, popularity, and power is the only way to have real, lasting change.
In order to educate others about a subject, one must understand the "whys" of the subject
I think the problem is people who think they can change the world by following someone else ideas. The truth is: you can only change yourself. "Be the change" Gandhi.
Skywalker1138 Having a good up bringing can make a huge difference to someone's life. But it's not lasting change. One crisis can change a whole society's culture.
This suddenly appeared in my recommendations and I’m wondering if it’s a reminder of what’s to come in society
Very thought provoking.
And the moral of this Video: Don't force change. The elimination of the human species is inevitable anyway.
so I should just stop trying then, okay.
*_Ow, the edge._*
Prove it
You are so edgy I scrapped my fingers whe I tried to reach you.
Issac Asimov "A choice of catastrophes" we're doomed!
But I'd argue that we live in dystopia. Unfree, unhappy and without meaning
5:31 That. It is incredibly summarizing.
Narration by Addison Anderson is always the best! I could listen to him all day. everyday.
you know the book "The Giver" the community is a good example of a dystopia/utopia well community!
I was thinking that the whole video!
Luna Crescent I'd always thought that The Giver wasn't an _exact_ dystopia.
Lauren Swan uh, ok. Go live there and have fun without any emotion free will or individuality
I really like the dystopia genre. I know a few movies from the west, but I'm more familiar with anime in that genre. The medium is able to easily create the stories since it doesn't require irl actors/scenes.
I never thought of Gulliver's travels like that
Starting from 5:13
The lines and animation is a pure art
That ending was very powerful. Well done!
Dystopia is the present, the status-quo. We are forced to live in a world where social experimentation and even essential changes are impossible, as every idea and ideal is vehemently rejected as utopian. Dystopia is a society that is so haunted by prophecies of failure, it is denied the opportunity to dream.
Wow! Just wow! The best Ted-Ed video I have seen thus far.
Thank you for all the excellent book suggestions!
Rami Al-Sabeq lol that’s why I cane back to this book
4:55 ah man snowpiercer! love that movie.
A friendly comment:
Hello, I want to ensure that I got this video's pop culture references right.
4:12 "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
4:18 "Westworld (1973)".
4:23 "Rollerball (1975)".
4:29 "Blade Runner (1982)".
4:34 "Dr. Strangelove". (Obviously stated in the video.)
4:39 "Watchmen". (Also obviously stated in the video.)
4:42 "V for Vendetta". (Ditto.)
4:44 "The Handmaid's Tale". (Ditto.)
4:53 "Mr. Robot" and "Elysium".
4:56 "Snowpiercer" and "The Hunger Games".
5:05 "Ex Machina".
5:08 - 5:12 "Metropolis".
What am I missing?
I do not know the pop culture references from 5:00 to 5:04?
I hope this helped those who were curious.
Thank you and have a nice day.
“How easily our rights can desapear in a crisis.” = Covid-19 media, social-media and government actions.
“集权只需五分钟” (totalitarian dominance only takes 5 minutes)
-三体(the three body problem)