Thank you for this! I popped the oil filler cap while the truck was running and the pressure blew the cap out of my hand... Bought (FoMoCo only!) replacement filter... Truck runs better and COOLER (at 50F). Like you said...the old filter weighed 3 times as much... 50k on the truck... Don't ignore this maint issue!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Hey! I ordered... cancelled-- and I think it arrived. What am I talking about? The SPE CCV kit. You did a follow up vid of a different kit? Let me know what you think of this CCV by-pass stuff. As it sits my 2017 dually is 100% stock. Super interested in your thoughts on the "disaster prevention" and "CCV"... thanks man!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so you don’t suggest any ccv reroute under any circumstance? Even modified? I’ve heard of modded out motors creating more pressure that the at o filter restricts. What are your thoughts.
I have a 2011 so of course mine had the bolts, used a different CCV Delete kit because this one wasn’t available at the time, routed my hose through the frame, just behind the cab so I don’t have to smell the smoke. No issues for me at all, just over 250,000 miles on mine. Pretty weird, all of my emissions components just so happened to fall off at the same time thanks to an EGT sensor that shut my truck off with a 1 day old baby in the truck on a 124 degree day here in Arizona. 🤷♂️
I have the SPE catch can and reroute kits in both of my 2015 & 2017 6.7 power strokes.Neither one had a serviceable filter. I Just wanted to avoid issues down the road. Easy to install and I don’t smell any oil.
I have a 2018 F-250 I did the CCV delete with SPE's cheese grader. The short hose did have quite a bit of vapor at drive throughs right at the driver window with it dumping at the rear of the driver side radius arm bracket. I got a 20' hose and now it dumps out by the rear hitch where the exhaust blows it away. I have a 5" straight pipe dumped behind the rear axel that helps blow the fumes away. I'm a fan, no other issues so far.
Just started recently watching your channel and I must say that you and Ford Tech Makuloco make the best informative content when it comes to Ford vehicles 👍🏻. Recently started helping my dad with his 17’ 250 that he bought brand new, and man, loving these knowledge bombs of pattern failures and everything. Much appreciated my dude 👍🏻
I have been running the SPE CCV KIT ,with the internal catch can for 60,000 miles no problems so far. Intake staying clean. I extended the hose to run further back under my F350 so I don't smell the oil fumes. Checked the catch can on last service still looking clean no clogging, and no oil drips from the hose.
If you do the CCV Reroute just get a long enough hose and run it down the firewall and into the frame and go all the way to the hitch and there is a hole on the hitch plate where it bolts to the frame and stick the 3/4" hose though that hole and let it vent out under the back bumper of the truck. No smell and it's hidden and out of the way.
I don’t have one of these yet, but going to. I’m 70 years old and most of the early trucks in my life had CCV tubes directly from the valve cover cap directly to the ground. Some had a foam pad that caught and returned oil. There wasn’t enough oil that made it to the hose that it collected on the frame or smelled bad. I would think this cheese grater configuration would come close to eliminating oil into the tube and return oil to where it should be.
Better yet buy a Venturi valve for your exhaust and weld that on and route house to that. This gives two benefits, no more smell and you retain the factory vacuum pull of gasses from the crankcase. Venting to atmosphere eliminates the vacuum and people have seen oil leaks pop up due to the small amount of added pressure in the crank case.
I decided to not mess with how it’s engineered. There is opinion out there that deleting the CCV box causes an imbalance of Turbo pressure? I decided to just change mine out every 50K and call it a day. 217,000 miles and running strong.
Do yours like I did mine. Leave your box and route your hose to the back of the truck. It will vent what it needs to. The box is still in place to filter out the oil. Right now you are putting oil into your Water to air Internet cooler and your hot and cold pipes are full of oil. Also all of that nasty oil is going back into your Engines combustion chamber and passing through your rings and dirtying your oil. The kit will only cost you about $40
I've been working on 6.7s since they came out in 2011 and I've never seen one with a filter in it. I've replaced a few due to cracking at seam and leaking, and of course plenty of ccv mod recalls. I've seen the ccv delete done and plumbed into the exhaust to eliminate oil vapor odor. Also there was a venturi type fitting in the exhaust so in theory could pull a slight vacuum on it and be beneficial.
I own a 2012 F250 with a 6.7L Powerstroke. I bought the truck used with 160,000 miles and one of the very first things I did was to reroute the CCV. I used Maryland Performances Zero Drip kit. The quality of the components are excellent however after a few days of driving I began to have oil spotting on my driveway. The Zero Drip was beginning to drip. I did some brainstorming and decided my best course of action was to add a breather tank to the end of the ccv reroute hose. I specifically used Moroso's 85751 Breather Tank due to its large inlet, descent capacity for oil drippings, and large filtered vent. The addition of this tank completely eliminated my oil spotting issue, drastically reduced the amount of CCV vapors seen at idle, as well as decreased the smell from the vapors slightly. All while keeping my CCV system's backpressure at near nothing. I drain the breather tank every oil change and have had zero issues so far after 20,000 miles of driving. In my experience a properly executed CCV reroute is worth the investment. If large enough fittings and plumbing is used, it will keep your crankcase pressure at virtually zero decreasing the likelihood of an oil leak. It also keeps the oil vapor out of you intake, turbo, intake boots, and intercooler. I've seen high mileage intercoolers struggling to perform due to being oil logged from years of CCV vapors. CCV reroutes are definitely an added expense as well as an added maintenance item when used with a breather tank. However, in my opinion they are worth your time, money, and effort.
Same here. Had a boosted mustang. Not a whole lot of oil before the pro charger, after 25k of boost, changed intake to a scj and noticed copious amounts of oil residue all over everything. Ran dual catch cans and reduced the oil/vapor going into the engine dramatically. Funny thing is this was on a 15, and Ford released catch cans on the future models. It’s like they say, the vehicle are built to get you through the warranty period. Best advice is decide how you need or want to use your machinery and tweak it to create preservation. Amsoil everywhere, filter changes religiously,do an engine flush and run a bypass filtration for oil, they work, upgrade to fass, add fuel additive to lubricate, we only have 15ppm of sulfur. In comparison Europe has 300-400ppm and 1% failure on cp pumps. Good air box, and open exhaust will reduce heat stacking up. Coupe grand in mods will make these trucks last forever minus turbos, ain’t a whole you can do with 1500 relentless degrees. Compliment the system, don’t reinvent the wheel. That stand had every emission component on it and made way more power than all the guys throwing blowers on them. Find what makes your engine efficient and do that.
hello Arod I watched ur videos very educational thank you I have a 2011 f250 sd 6.7 154000 klms I installed the complete spe disaster kit and the CCV reroute the cheese grater actually serves as an internal catch can , I ran thru to my frame no smoke no smell, but as I took my factory CCV box without the bolts at the top I was surprised to find that it was relatively clean, I use friction reducer once a year hot shots secret in every tank of fuel and hot shots secret, and diesel extreme clean and boost once a year in the fuel tank I hope all this stuff works so far so good thank you
So I did a catch can for my 2006 6.0L F250 and it worked great! I did not get any more oil in the intake track at all. On every oil change I just drain the can out and you got about 8oz of oil out of it was all. now I have an 2020 F450 6.7l and I am looking at this set up. But I am going to run it back to the stock location in the intake. I will be checking to see if oil make it the cooler and intake track. If it still gets there I will also stack it with a good catch can in the middle of the tube and see if that work like my 6.0L did. I will keep you posted.
I don’t really notice a smell from the CCV vapors. But will pay more attention now. I know the one bolt on the very back was a pain in the butt to get out.
This kit works very well. I had at CCV delete prior to adding SPE’s aluminum screen, and after installation it dramatically cut down on the oil smell/vapor coming from under the truck. 👍
Just pulled my intake piping to install the SPE CP4 kit on my 17 with 56k and original non-servicable ccv, pulled handfuls of sludge out of the lower plenum. Took me 3 hrs to clean it! SPE catch can is going on next!
H&S Motorsports CCV kit on my ‘12. Installed that about 5 years ago when I replaced the lower charged air pipe with a steel one. The factory plastic charged air pipe was saturated with oil inside. No problems with this kit, just a little smelly and some oil drips come out of the end of the hose.
Another great vid. Thank you This is a huge topic currently on the 6.7s. 2017 to 2019. That filter clogs at 7500 miles under normal conditions. We have had dozens of 19. 450s with only 15k or less miles on them have ccv filters actually braking apart with oil loaded actually dripping. At first just thought simply it was just a one off. However this is a huge issue. There is a recall on these ccv boxes with filter for 650 and 750s now. It should be 250 up. However it will be changed to a non filter setup ccv as you stated in vid. We dont even like them either. Cut top off of the sealed lid it does nothing to help but pour the gas and soot back in. Topic needs to be on top 3 for this engine cause there is alot of owners that have no clue
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Above, Anthony said the CCV filter should be a top 3 topic for these trucks, I'm wondering what his other 2 tops would be to complete the top 3
What's up guys I first saw this on 450 cab and chassis trucks with the serviceable removal ccv box lids those are the styles 18, and 19 I have seen. However as Arod knows ford came out with a new ccv assembly no filter type. I actually saw ccv filters braking apart and most likely going into block. Small fibers. Still a huge huge cover up by ford motor company. To actually say the filter does not need changing until 75k or 100k miles can you imagine. I see medium and heavy duty trucks 450 up and at 7500 miles ccv filter garbage. Arod had vid on his bench on one if I can remember. Non the less there are worse items as we all know about. Customers , techs, even ford themselves that cause failure that can break the bank for many 3 small letters CP4 . I have never seen a bad ccv filter cost a 12 grand repair but if your cp4 goes which I have myself 72 trucks in 2 years 8 months
Hey ARod……timely video as my 2018 is at the dealer right now having the CCV filter replaced. They may be replacing it with the new box….not sure yet. We’ll see…thanks for the info and all of the great videos!!
I didn’t actually take mine apart when I took it off. I just put that spe delete on my 11 6.7. I’ve got several parts from them and I believe they are top notch aftermarket parts. Especially the exo filters for the cp4 system.
I have an 11 as well and just tried this reroute kit. After install did you get excessive white/grey smoke out the tailpipe? It was so bad i put the box back in and it stopped. Even had oil dripping out the tailpipe. Just curious if it might just be the 10 years of oil build up in the cooler and pipes.
I didn’t know about the filter until a few days ago when my wife took the truck in for some service. I had noticed a change in turbo pressure and oil leakage. I think this was my issue, but the damn dealer wanted to charge $825 to swap it to the filterless box. I just bought a filter instead and swapped it myself. Actually pretty fast and easy to do. I don’t know why it wouldn’t just be a regular service item.
It's 9/26/23 in California, and today I just bought a slightly used 2020 F350 with a 6.7 that only has 15,546 miles. Before I took possession, the state required a SMOG check. It passed with no issue, but the SMOG guy said, "Do not remove the CCV box!" They inspect under the hood, and if it's missing you will not pass SMOG. Is SPE making an additional California legal external catch can to capture the condensed oil vapor? One you can possibly drain from time to time. I can't stand the idea of pumping that crud back into my beautifully running engine!
Get rid of it, it's dumping oil into you intake,and it mixes with soot from EGR. Send me your email I'll send you pictures. I just cleaned out a intake, it is incredible that these engines run with all that crap inside!
Powerstrokehelp has very strong words for deleting the ccv. Me, I'm okay with it, I've seen trucks at 250 without problems so.. I routed mine all the way to the back of the truck and welded a bung into the exhaust
That gentleman NEVER RETURNS MY CALLS, VOICE MAILS, EMAILS his argument with that, I DISAGREE with...but hell I'd like to chat with him....yet here we are......
Done this mods on several trucks for me and our family business. Several 6.0 and 7.3 trucks, a couple ram cummins trucks as well. Essentially I've Just extend a heater hose of sorts out around the bottom of the motor somewhere. Never any issues of smell that was a problem and most had no oil dripping up tube. Only had a couple trucks that had that problem and they were the ones with pretty worn-out engines that had bad Blow by. I will definitely be doing this mod or something similar to it on my new 21 F350.
You have to be careful if you remove the CCV box as there is some kind of sensor that would throw a CEL in the 15+ IIRC. There used to be a video on it and I *think* it was on your channel. I have a 13 and it can be removed without a CEL but I think in 15 like I said, they put a sensor in to prevent CCV deletes. IIRC the sensor is in that circle thing where the hose attaches to the CCV box or its where the end of the hose attaches to the valve cover...Double check me bro, but yea...
I have a 2019 F350SD 6.7 and installed the SPE modification also added a Mishi Moto oil catch can it is a little smelly it’s not too bad But it works pretty good
Low quality (high volatility) engine oils produce higher amounts of oil vapors, and they get sucked up thru the CCV system. You can have a low-mileage engine with high CCV loading if cheap oil was used.
my 17 F350 has the new style. seems like there would still be a filter in the non serviceable unit that just goes bad without you knowing anything about it. sweet.
I ran a cheaper CCV delete and ran the hose down the firewall and over to the exhaust to a bung I had welded on the exhaust so it would send the vapors out the tailpipe.
I watched a vid from the SPE guys. If you’re tuned, you have to be careful. It is possible to suck oil out of the engine doing that (flooring it, racing it, etc.)
I have the Maryland Performance Diesel ccv delete kit. The hose is run under the cab. I can definitely smell it and I also will get a drop of oil out of it occasionally. You can easily see the vapor coming out. I think I'll switch to this kit to see if the oil drip goes away.
I did cover delete on my 7.3 I had because it fills the after cooler because on 7.3 there square corner caps and it sucks the oil in threw there so eventually fills the after cooler with oil I ran my hose down my frame rail then built a box with 🤔 sos pads kitchen worked great Now with my 6.7 2013 92,000 miles I'm definitely going to check this out I have 3500+ idle time,I also run SPE thermostat witch here in AZ were it get brutally hot I did the green wire ground switch for my fan 👍
I also run a CCV bypass, ran a 5/8 hose all the way to the rear of my 99 7.3 crew cab. This was 20 years ago and never had any problems, 223K plus miles!
My 2015 had a recall on the CCV. They replaced it, but never new which one I had till watching this video. I just checked mine, and it’s the closed off one. No bolts, so I guess I’m good.
I’ve had the internal catch can by SPE installed on my truck since the week they announced it for sale. I’ve recently notice oil droplets this winter during warmups and idle which were minimum. I definitely don’t like the fumes from the hose especially during drive ups. I’m planing on rerouting the hose further to the rear of the truck.
I had the same situation, the fumes were more an issue for me than the drops. I ended up needing to route it to a SECONDARY catch can, and then routed the remainder into a venturi tube welded into my exhaust. So what little smoke is left is routed out the exhaust.
@@joeycrews5364 I had the SPE internal one and then eventually added on the No Limit Fabrication catch can. I welded the Venturi tube on myself with my mig welder.
Thankyou, very well presented. For my 2014 F350 with 50 000kms travelled, I have bought a CCV delete kit made by NO LIMIT FABRICATION. I am interested in the SPE cheesecutter design in reducing oil droplets to atmosphere
Have you replaced your yet? I have an 18' with the same thing and 115k. No excess pressure. I ordered a new ccv but if there is no pressure should I even change it? I don't want any leaks but if it's all good do I leave it until there is a little bit of pressure?
Great video. I would like your feedback on my current project. I had a filter less CCV box on my 2016. Last December I purchased the Mishimoto kit to introduce the catch can into the mix with the factory filter less ccv box. I had it on and off twice and it leaked due to what I would imagine is a fitment issue. Torqued to specs exactly how Mishimoto recommended, O rings lubbed and seated etc. I wanted to open it up and somehow delete the factory ccv air to oil separator but still use my catch can. My brother and law (mech eng/car guy) and I this Christmas designed a different set up all together. We used the regular old delete kit by AM diesel, than I had some ORB to hose barb fittings made for a 1.25” vacuum hose off the same location as stock pre turbo inlet. I’m awaiting a aeromotive vacuum regulator to be installed on the outlet side of the catch can than on the inlet side I will route the typical ccv delete hose off of the back of the valve cover. We’re confident it will work it will be just a matter of regulating the vacuum and I intend on setting up a gauge as well. This was a pretty costly way of doing things for what it is but I’m excited to have the catch can on and to get rid of the fumes from the standard CCV delete, Also free up space on that side of the valve covers. I hope it works as the Mishimoto catch can is nice but with the kit was over $400 CDN, the aeromotive valve was $165, custom ORB to hose barb fittings for each side of the regulator $300, 1 1/4” vacuum hose was $30, CCV delete kit was $230, vacuum gage $20.... it all adds up so I’m hoping for the best when the vac regulator comes. The real question I have is what would be the desired vacuum pressure? It will obviously change during different levels of boost etc. Any input would be appreciated from the pros.
My 17 had an upper oil pan leak 97k miles... So take it (under warranty) to get repaired, well they came back and said ccv was clogged causing crankcase pressure to build and spit oil out .... They replaced with the updated none screw top... Let's see if they were right.. hence just got it back today.... 1/24...
I’m surprised that thing didn’t have all kinds of oil leaks. 17-19s with that ccv filter we recommend at 50k and any that leak get a new filter. The filters always look like that although I haven’t seen one flake yet. And the engine has crazy leaks besides the upper oil pan leak like they all do we are seeing front or rear main leaks, front cover leaks, left/ right valve cover leaks or both! Leaks that we never saw with the older style ccv on the 14-16s. But man if the ccv changes to the old centrifugal style then ima just start recommending it to customers. As for that hose on the aftermarket delete kit I’d run it to some sort of separator or catch can. When I work on semi trucks some Cummins engines wouldn’t route the ccv to the intake. Instead the ccv filter would dump to atmosphere. And some trucks were just nasty, I wouldn’t do it on a 2021
SPE's CCV Delete and Internal Catch Can (Cheese Grater) is amazing. Have the combo on my '11, and have yet to have any oil residue out of the dump tube. 👍
My duramax doesn't have a filter. It just lets the intake/ turbo eat the oil 😐 most guys cap off the intake and reroute hose to a catch can via heater hose
Great video and most I’ve seen will have pressure under the oil cap and 9 times out of 10 the upper oil pan is leaking, rear main or it’s pushing oil out of everywhere
Did my 19’ and it’s cover had the bolts. 26k miles and the 2 filters were not swelling but 100% saturated and flaked easily . I’m guessing another 50k miles and it would have looked as bad as yours did .
I have a 7.3 but when I did the CCV mod I never noticed any smell. First I ran the dog house just back words and let the vapor fill the engine bay. No smell. Now I have a heater hose going down into the front drivers wheel well. No smell.
Outstanding content, as others have said with you and FordTechMakuloco. Also a subscriber to ModernDieselCory who gives great detail on this and other SPE products. 2017 F350 that had the non-serviceable CCV filter and now using cheese grater + reroute (not SPE) = great results (min to no scent and no drips). Disappointed with amount of oil residue at only 30k miles within intake pathway (cold side pipe upgrade) to include upper intake manifold mixing with EGR gases, nasty buildup of soot+ccv oil mist. Keep up the great work and look forward to your opinion with trying these products.
I had to install a reroute on my 13 due to the turbo/intake set up I was running didn’t have a place for the factory CCV set up. As a mechanic it really frees up a ton of space and cleans up the look. After beating the hell out of it for the last 10,000 miles I haven’t seen any oil leaks form at all. Vapor smell is not noticeable with windows up in traffic. Don’t even have oil drips. Worth my 80 bucks
If the factory ccv box is backed up or clogged, could this cause the truck to smoke through the exhaust pipe at idle at a stop light? Sorry to bother with all my questions in the past but I'm desperate brother. Keep up the excellent videos, they're VERY INFORMATIVE and SO HELPFUL. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I would have thought the other end of the hose from the "cheese grater' would have a fitting to the other port on the valve cover to route the gasses back in, then there is no smell or drip... seems simple solution.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod But to vent to atmosphere is not good, better to re burn them through the intake? My mistake on my previous post, I should have said intake for the other end of the hose .
SPE parts are pretty amazing I’m getting ready to throw a whole bunch of stuff at my truck from them once my warranty runs out. The cold side inner cooler and hot side pipe are definitely a must to replace right away. @SPE
So I have 200K miles and didn't even know I had this box. Mine should be looking good, Lol. SPE also has that disaster kit I'm getting and I saw this on there web site. Looks like I'm grabbing one.. I bet the updated Ford CCV box is $500 bucks??
Interesting enough I've had a P0170 caused by a filterless CCV box on 2 trucks. Both 2017s. Replace the CCV and it never came back. So I'm not sure what happens inside of them, but something fails in those too.
Hi Matt. I have 2017 F350 Dually and pull RV trailers all over N America. At around 141000 miles I started getting the P0170 code. I stopped at several dealers and the checked it with their super computers and can't tell what's causing it. Everything checks out ok. They just clear the codes and I go on my way. How did you come up with the cc box causing the code. Text me or call me. Morgan Michel 6069230947
Are they single rear wheel trucks? The drw truck have a different box than the srw trucks. On the srw trucks you can change just the diaphragm, cap and spring. It is the round part on the assembly. I am going to do that in the next few days on my 18 f350 srw. I do not think dealers sell just the diaphragm, cap and spring kit just the whole assembly. Dorman ( I think part number 918359) has the part kit. You can get it at Rocl Auto or a local part store. Just under $40 at a part store and $18 at Rock.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod that will fit on srw trucks? Cool! I just checked for crankcase pressure on mine after I changes my trans fluid today. It wouldn't even move a paper towel. I should be good for a little longer but will change soon to have some piece of mind.
curious about doing this, just a thought, couldn't someone just remove the hose from the CCV box, replace with a properly fitted hose, run that hose to the back of the truck, find a properly fitting cap for the intake side and be done. This way you have a catch can(CCV BOX) and venting to the atmosphere instead of the engine. Seems like it would work and save money.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have the new style and I've seen the internals of the new style and that's all it seems to be, a catch can. Keep it up, I watch everything you put out.
That filter is $$$. I'm gonna pull mine at 50K and check and see how bad it is. My truck is maintained to a T. T6 oil changes every 5k, fuel filters every 15k and air filters every 20k. MDC makes some great vids, been watching him for awhile now.
That filter was really plugged! In your opinion, can the quality of the oil and proper service intervals help alleviate the plugged CCV issue? Only reason I ask is because I ran a catch can on the 2.7 ecoboost I used to have. In about 5000 miles (or an oil change interval) I had to empty that thing about 3 maybe 4 times with the motorcraft oil. When I switched to a different brand full synthetic (same viscosity) the catch can literally caught almost nothing in between oil changes, maybe a teaspoon of crap would come out. So it made me raise a question of, is the CCV delete really necessary, or was service intervals/the quality of the oil the cause of the CCV having an issue? Love watching your channel!
It was 😂 till the dealership replaced it under warranty. Took it in for a wheel seal leaking and change all the fluids it’s now day 11. At least the ford premier warranty is paying off lol.
I'm in the process of doing mine as we speak and it looks like I have the one without the filter inside but the housing is still breaking down and I'm having leaking and clogging issues nonetheless so... its gone now. Hopefully my leaks stop 🤞
Early 2017 6.7 powerstroke i don't have the bolts on top just ordered the spe recirculation kit i hope i did the right thing truck only has 50,000 miles on it
This is insane. First I'm dealing with a fuel pump that's not made for US fuel , now I'm dealing with huge under the hood components that are completely worthless and should be removed.
Have you used a mishimoto MMBCC-F2D-17BE. I have a 2022 ford f350 6.7. I’d be interested in seeing how the MMBCC-F2D-17BE works. I’d even do more modifications and pay you to do it with what ever upgrades you thought were needed. Thank you
Excellent! Thank you for this video!! This is the most mysterious part of the 6.7. On another note, are idle hours part of engine hours or do you add them together to get total hours?
I am running the CCV delete and I do not like it at all. It’s smokes at stoplights and at drive-through restaurants it’s really aggravating. I did see someone else’s TH-cam channel where they said it’s actually bad for the Turbo. It causes the turbo seals to leak. Have you heard anything about that?
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Thank you for this! I popped the oil filler cap while the truck was running and the pressure blew the cap out of my hand... Bought (FoMoCo only!) replacement filter... Truck runs better and COOLER (at 50F). Like you said...the old filter weighed 3 times as much... 50k on the truck... Don't ignore this maint issue!
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@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Hey! I ordered... cancelled-- and I think it arrived. What am I talking about? The SPE CCV kit. You did a follow up vid of a different kit? Let me know what you think of this CCV by-pass stuff. As it sits my 2017 dually is 100% stock. Super interested in your thoughts on the "disaster prevention" and "CCV"... thanks man!
SPE is a complete waste of time & energy. Throw it out! Now disaster prevention you need the S&S kit. I take it you haven't seen that video.....?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so you don’t suggest any ccv reroute under any circumstance? Even modified? I’ve heard of modded out motors creating more pressure that the at o filter restricts. What are your thoughts.
I put the hose inside the frame .
I don't see or smell the fumes
at all .... also rust protection lol
I have a 2011 so of course mine had the bolts, used a different CCV Delete kit because this one wasn’t available at the time, routed my hose through the frame, just behind the cab so I don’t have to smell the smoke. No issues for me at all, just over 250,000 miles on mine. Pretty weird, all of my emissions components just so happened to fall off at the same time thanks to an EGT sensor that shut my truck off with a 1 day old baby in the truck on a 124 degree day here in Arizona. 🤷♂️
I've always preached Motorcraft but stuff like this, you have to turn to aftermarket. And I'm glad your taking the time to showcase it.
You know it pal! 👍👍
OKay so Would U prefer the deleted box or the aftermarket?? 2016 here w no more then 25k
I have the SPE catch can and reroute kits in both of my 2015 & 2017 6.7 power strokes.Neither one had a serviceable filter. I Just wanted to avoid issues down the road. Easy to install and I don’t smell any oil.
I have a 2018 F-250 I did the CCV delete with SPE's cheese grader. The short hose did have quite a bit of vapor at drive throughs right at the driver window with it dumping at the rear of the driver side radius arm bracket. I got a 20' hose and now it dumps out by the rear hitch where the exhaust blows it away. I have a 5" straight pipe dumped behind the rear axel that helps blow the fumes away. I'm a fan, no other issues so far.
Just started recently watching your channel and I must say that you and Ford Tech Makuloco make the best informative content when it comes to Ford vehicles 👍🏻. Recently started helping my dad with his 17’ 250 that he bought brand new, and man, loving these knowledge bombs of pattern failures and everything. Much appreciated my dude 👍🏻
Thanks pal, I really try to deliver👍🤝
Absolutely. I had my alternator stop charging and wouldn’t you know it was broken wire right where you said it would be.
I have been running the SPE CCV KIT ,with the internal catch can for 60,000 miles no problems so far. Intake staying clean. I extended the hose to run further back under my F350 so I don't smell the oil fumes. Checked the catch can on last service still looking clean no clogging, and no oil drips from the hose.
If you do the CCV Reroute just get a long enough hose and run it down the firewall and into the frame and go all the way to the hitch and there is a hole on the hitch plate where it bolts to the frame and stick the 3/4" hose though that hole and let it vent out under the back bumper of the truck. No smell and it's hidden and out of the way.
I don’t have one of these yet, but going to. I’m 70 years old and most of the early trucks in my life had CCV tubes directly from the valve cover cap directly to the ground. Some had a foam pad that caught and returned oil. There wasn’t enough oil that made it to the hose that it collected on the frame or smelled bad. I would think this cheese grater configuration would come close to eliminating oil into the tube and return oil to where it should be.
Better yet buy a Venturi valve for your exhaust and weld that on and route house to that. This gives two benefits, no more smell and you retain the factory vacuum pull of gasses from the crankcase. Venting to atmosphere eliminates the vacuum and people have seen oil leaks pop up due to the small amount of added pressure in the crank case.
I decided to not mess with how it’s engineered. There is opinion out there that deleting the CCV box causes an imbalance of Turbo pressure? I decided to just change mine out every 50K and call it a day. 217,000 miles and running strong.
Do yours like I did mine. Leave your box and route your hose to the back of the truck. It will vent what it needs to. The box is still in place to filter out the oil. Right now you are putting oil into your Water to air Internet cooler and your hot and cold pipes are full of oil. Also all of that nasty oil is going back into your Engines combustion chamber and passing through your rings and dirtying your oil. The kit will only cost you about $40
...do as you wish. That "opinion" needs to just stick to working on 6.oh diesels in Buford & leave the 6.7s alone.
I've been working on 6.7s since they came out in 2011 and I've never seen one with a filter in it. I've replaced a few due to cracking at seam and leaking, and of course plenty of ccv mod recalls. I've seen the ccv delete done and plumbed into the exhaust to eliminate oil vapor odor. Also there was a venturi type fitting in the exhaust so in theory could pull a slight vacuum on it and be beneficial.
I own a 2012 F250 with a 6.7L Powerstroke. I bought the truck used with 160,000 miles and one of the very first things I did was to reroute the CCV. I used Maryland Performances Zero Drip kit. The quality of the components are excellent however after a few days of driving I began to have oil spotting on my driveway. The Zero Drip was beginning to drip. I did some brainstorming and decided my best course of action was to add a breather tank to the end of the ccv reroute hose. I specifically used Moroso's 85751 Breather Tank due to its large inlet, descent capacity for oil drippings, and large filtered vent. The addition of this tank completely eliminated my oil spotting issue, drastically reduced the amount of CCV vapors seen at idle, as well as decreased the smell from the vapors slightly. All while keeping my CCV system's backpressure at near nothing. I drain the breather tank every oil change and have had zero issues so far after 20,000 miles of driving. In my experience a properly executed CCV reroute is worth the investment. If large enough fittings and plumbing is used, it will keep your crankcase pressure at virtually zero decreasing the likelihood of an oil leak. It also keeps the oil vapor out of you intake, turbo, intake boots, and intercooler. I've seen high mileage intercoolers struggling to perform due to being oil logged from years of CCV vapors. CCV reroutes are definitely an added expense as well as an added maintenance item when used with a breather tank. However, in my opinion they are worth your time, money, and effort.
Thank you for your real world experience.
Same here. Had a boosted mustang. Not a whole lot of oil before the pro charger, after 25k of boost, changed intake to a scj and noticed copious amounts of oil residue all over everything. Ran dual catch cans and reduced the oil/vapor going into the engine dramatically. Funny thing is this was on a 15, and Ford released catch cans on the future models. It’s like they say, the vehicle are built to get you through the warranty period. Best advice is decide how you need or want to use your machinery and tweak it to create preservation. Amsoil everywhere, filter changes religiously,do an engine flush and run a bypass filtration for oil, they work, upgrade to fass, add fuel additive to lubricate, we only have 15ppm of sulfur. In comparison Europe has 300-400ppm and 1% failure on cp pumps. Good air box, and open exhaust will reduce heat stacking up. Coupe grand in mods will make these trucks last forever minus turbos, ain’t a whole you can do with 1500 relentless degrees. Compliment the system, don’t reinvent the wheel. That stand had every emission component on it and made way more power than all the guys throwing blowers on them. Find what makes your engine efficient and do that.
hello Arod I watched ur videos very educational thank you I have a 2011 f250 sd 6.7 154000 klms I installed the complete spe disaster kit and the CCV reroute the cheese grater actually serves as an internal catch can , I ran thru to my frame no smoke no smell, but as I took my factory CCV box without the bolts at the top I was surprised to find that it was relatively clean, I use friction reducer once a year hot shots secret in every tank of fuel and hot shots secret, and diesel extreme clean and boost once a year in the fuel tank I hope all this stuff works so far so good thank you
So I did a catch can for my 2006 6.0L F250 and it worked great! I did not get any more oil in the intake track at all. On every oil change I just drain the can out and you got about 8oz of oil out of it was all. now I have an 2020 F450 6.7l and I am looking at this set up. But I am going to run it back to the stock location in the intake. I will be checking to see if oil make it the cooler and intake track. If it still gets there I will also stack it with a good catch can in the middle of the tube and see if that work like my 6.0L did. I will keep you posted.
I don’t really notice a smell from the CCV vapors. But will pay more attention now. I know the one bolt on the very back was a pain in the butt to get out.
This kit works very well. I had at CCV delete prior to adding SPE’s aluminum screen, and after installation it dramatically cut down on the oil smell/vapor coming from under the truck. 👍
Ive never had any oil smell or smoke and I have the ford delete , like when or how often do ya smell it?
@@culbyj3665 It will lightly smoke when idling after running a little hard or during periods of extended idling once the engine is warm.
I’m running spe ccv delete , I routed it into a Venturi valve welded into the exhaust , no fumes 👍🏼
Email pics please!!🙋♂️👍🤝
Powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com
What valve you source to weld on the exhaust? I see its a 3/4" hose coming out with the kit.. Thanks
@@adamt7174 I found one on eBay for cheap type in scavenger kit , some companies try and sell the same fitting for 100+
Email me the one
@@ericcothrum9595 Thanks I think I figured it out but that’s the idea that pushed me over the edge on this one so Thank you for the input!
Just pulled my intake piping to install the SPE CP4 kit on my 17 with 56k and original non-servicable ccv, pulled handfuls of sludge out of the lower plenum. Took me 3 hrs to clean it! SPE catch can is going on next!
...i wish ya luck
H&S Motorsports CCV kit on my ‘12. Installed that about 5 years ago when I replaced the lower charged air pipe with a steel one. The factory plastic charged air pipe was saturated with oil inside. No problems with this kit, just a little smelly and some oil drips come out of the end of the hose.
Another great vid. Thank you This is a huge topic currently on the 6.7s. 2017 to 2019. That filter clogs at 7500 miles under normal conditions. We have had dozens of 19. 450s with only 15k or less miles on them have ccv filters actually braking apart with oil loaded actually dripping. At first just thought simply it was just a one off. However this is a huge issue. There is a recall on these ccv boxes with filter for 650 and 750s now. It should be 250 up. However it will be changed to a non filter setup ccv as you stated in vid. We dont even like them either. Cut top off of the sealed lid it does nothing to help but pour the gas and soot back in. Topic needs to be on top 3 for this engine cause there is alot of owners that have no clue
I need u on my show...podcast material brahhh
What else would be in your top 3 topics for the 6.7 Powerstrokes?
What ya mean
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Above, Anthony said the CCV filter should be a top 3 topic for these trucks, I'm wondering what his other 2 tops would be to complete the top 3
What's up guys I first saw this on 450 cab and chassis trucks with the serviceable removal ccv box lids those are the styles 18, and 19 I have seen. However as Arod knows ford came out with a new ccv assembly no filter type. I actually saw ccv filters braking apart and most likely going into block. Small fibers. Still a huge huge cover up by ford motor company. To actually say the filter does not need changing until 75k or 100k miles can you imagine. I see medium and heavy duty trucks 450 up and at 7500 miles ccv filter garbage. Arod had vid on his bench on one if I can remember. Non the less there are worse items as we all know about. Customers , techs, even ford themselves that cause failure that can break the bank for many 3 small letters CP4 . I have never seen a bad ccv filter cost a 12 grand repair but if your cp4 goes which I have myself 72 trucks in 2 years 8 months
Hey ARod……timely video as my 2018 is at the dealer right now having the CCV filter replaced. They may be replacing it with the new box….not sure yet. We’ll see…thanks for the info and all of the great videos!!
I didn’t actually take mine apart when I took it off. I just put that spe delete on my 11 6.7. I’ve got several parts from them and I believe they are top notch aftermarket parts. Especially the exo filters for the cp4 system.
I have an 11 as well and just tried this reroute kit. After install did you get excessive white/grey smoke out the tailpipe? It was so bad i put the box back in and it stopped. Even had oil dripping out the tailpipe. Just curious if it might just be the 10 years of oil build up in the cooler and pipes.
@@sd402rcool it was a little more than usual but it stopped in a day or so.
Too bad their customer service blows! No more SPE for me.
@@sd402rcoolI had this same problem. My hose was kinked. I unkinked it and no more oil drips from the exhaust.
The triple beam scales joke was hilarious
Was an oldie.....from, where I'm from...
Did it to my 12 6.7 and the truck loves it. No more leaking ccv
I watch your vids alot...first time I've commented. Wanted to let you know you do a great job keeping me informed on my 2019 f250 6.7. Thanks
Thanks Arron....appreciate your feedback. Stick around....we might wanna get....you...on....da show & talk bout ur rig 🤔😉
I change my filter every other oil change. Never an issue and no oil leak on my 17 F350 6.7 dually with 155K
I didn’t know about the filter until a few days ago when my wife took the truck in for some service. I had noticed a change in turbo pressure and oil leakage. I think this was my issue, but the damn dealer wanted to charge $825 to swap it to the filterless box. I just bought a filter instead and swapped it myself. Actually pretty fast and easy to do. I don’t know why it wouldn’t just be a regular service item.
It's 9/26/23 in California, and today I just bought a slightly used 2020 F350 with a 6.7 that only has 15,546 miles. Before I took possession, the state required a SMOG check. It passed with no issue, but the SMOG guy said, "Do not remove the CCV box!" They inspect under the hood, and if it's missing you will not pass SMOG. Is SPE making an additional California legal external catch can to capture the condensed oil vapor? One you can possibly drain from time to time. I can't stand the idea of pumping that crud back into my beautifully running engine!
Thats a pretty slick little gizmo.
Mine is a filter less ccv, so I'm just gonna let her ride
Get rid of it, it's dumping oil into you intake,and it mixes with soot from EGR. Send me your email I'll send you pictures. I just cleaned out a intake, it is incredible that these engines run with all that crap inside!
I just changed mine i had sout in the front hole is that normal@lewisbolman7862
Powerstrokehelp has very strong words for deleting the ccv. Me, I'm okay with it, I've seen trucks at 250 without problems so..
I routed mine all the way to the back of the truck and welded a bung into the exhaust
That gentleman NEVER RETURNS MY CALLS, VOICE MAILS, EMAILS his argument with that, I DISAGREE with...but hell I'd like to chat with him....yet here we are......
Done this mods on several trucks for me and our family business. Several 6.0 and 7.3 trucks, a couple ram cummins trucks as well. Essentially I've Just extend a heater hose of sorts out around the bottom of the motor somewhere. Never any issues of smell that was a problem and most had no oil dripping up tube.
Only had a couple trucks that had that problem and they were the ones with pretty worn-out engines that had bad Blow by. I will definitely be doing this mod or something similar to it on my new 21 F350.
I prefer the mishimoto oil catch can. Installs very nice.
You have to be careful if you remove the CCV box as there is some kind of sensor that would throw a CEL in the 15+ IIRC. There used to be a video on it and I *think* it was on your channel. I have a 13 and it can be removed without a CEL but I think in 15 like I said, they put a sensor in to prevent CCV deletes. IIRC the sensor is in that circle thing where the hose attaches to the CCV box or its where the end of the hose attaches to the valve cover...Double check me bro, but yea...
No....it was not there to prevent ccv deletes
I have a 2019 F350SD 6.7 and installed the SPE modification also added a Mishi Moto oil catch can it is a little smelly it’s not too bad But it works pretty good
Low quality (high volatility) engine oils produce higher amounts of oil vapors, and they get sucked up thru the CCV system. You can have a low-mileage engine with high CCV loading if cheap oil was used.
my 17 F350 has the new style. seems like there would still be a filter in the non serviceable unit that just goes bad without you knowing anything about it.
sweet.
I ran a cheaper CCV delete and ran the hose down the firewall and over to the exhaust to a bung I had welded on the exhaust so it would send the vapors out the tailpipe.
I watched a vid from the SPE guys. If you’re tuned, you have to be careful. It is possible to suck oil out of the engine doing that (flooring it, racing it, etc.)
I have the Maryland Performance Diesel ccv delete kit. The hose is run under the cab. I can definitely smell it and I also will get a drop of oil out of it occasionally. You can easily see the vapor coming out. I think I'll switch to this kit to see if the oil drip goes away.
That Maryland one is junk
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I agree. This kit looks like the addresses all of the issues with doing the ccv delete. Thank you for the video.
I did cover delete on my 7.3 I had because it fills the after cooler because on 7.3 there square corner caps and it sucks the oil in threw there so eventually fills the after cooler with oil
I ran my hose down my frame rail then built a box with 🤔 sos pads kitchen worked great
Now with my 6.7 2013 92,000 miles I'm definitely going to check this out I have 3500+ idle time,I also run SPE thermostat witch here in AZ were it get brutally hot I did the green wire ground switch for my fan 👍
I also run a CCV bypass, ran a 5/8 hose all the way to the rear of my 99 7.3 crew cab. This was 20 years ago and never had any problems, 223K plus miles!
My 2015 had a recall on the CCV. They replaced it, but never new which one I had till watching this video. I just checked mine, and it’s the closed off one. No bolts, so I guess I’m good.
Hell yea
I’ve had the internal catch can by SPE installed on my truck since the week they announced it for sale. I’ve recently notice oil droplets this winter during warmups and idle which were minimum. I definitely don’t like the fumes from the hose especially during drive ups. I’m planing on rerouting the hose further to the rear of the truck.
Thanks 4 sharing
I had the same situation, the fumes were more an issue for me than the drops. I ended up needing to route it to a SECONDARY catch can, and then routed the remainder into a venturi tube welded into my exhaust. So what little smoke is left is routed out the exhaust.
@@hibrad what catch can did you use? Was it an issue finding a shop to weld a Venturi tube on?
@@joeycrews5364 I had the SPE internal one and then eventually added on the No Limit Fabrication catch can. I welded the Venturi tube on myself with my mig welder.
Thankyou, very well presented. For my 2014 F350 with 50 000kms travelled, I have bought a CCV delete kit made by NO LIMIT FABRICATION. I am interested in the SPE cheesecutter design in reducing oil droplets to atmosphere
I have an early build 17’ with the filter-less box! Thx for the vid! 126k miles with no problems.
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Have you replaced your yet? I have an 18' with the same thing and 115k. No excess pressure. I ordered a new ccv but if there is no pressure should I even change it? I don't want any leaks but if it's all good do I leave it until there is a little bit of pressure?
Great video. I would like your feedback on my current project.
I had a filter less CCV box on my 2016. Last December I purchased the Mishimoto kit to introduce the catch can into the mix with the factory filter less ccv box. I had it on and off twice and it leaked due to what I would imagine is a fitment issue. Torqued to specs exactly how Mishimoto recommended, O rings lubbed and seated etc.
I wanted to open it up and somehow delete the factory ccv air to oil separator but still use my catch can. My brother and law (mech eng/car guy) and I this Christmas designed a different set up all together. We used the regular old delete kit by AM diesel, than I had some ORB to hose barb fittings made for a 1.25” vacuum hose off the same location as stock pre turbo inlet. I’m awaiting a aeromotive vacuum regulator to be installed on the outlet side of the catch can than on the inlet side I will route the typical ccv delete hose off of the back of the valve cover. We’re confident it will work it will be just a matter of regulating the vacuum and I intend on setting up a gauge as well.
This was a pretty costly way of doing things for what it is but I’m excited to have the catch can on and to get rid of the fumes from the standard CCV delete, Also free up space on that side of the valve covers. I hope it works as the Mishimoto catch can is nice but with the kit was over $400 CDN, the aeromotive valve was $165, custom ORB to hose barb fittings for each side of the regulator $300, 1 1/4” vacuum hose was $30, CCV delete kit was $230, vacuum gage $20.... it all adds up so I’m hoping for the best when the vac regulator comes.
The real question I have is what would be the desired vacuum pressure? It will obviously change during different levels of boost etc. Any input would be appreciated from the pros.
My 17 had an upper oil pan leak 97k miles... So take it (under warranty) to get repaired, well they came back and said ccv was clogged causing crankcase pressure to build and spit oil out .... They replaced with the updated none screw top... Let's see if they were right.. hence just got it back today.... 1/24...
@Raheem Cruse Any updates?
@@donovanwylie8891 yes. That was the problem no more leaks.
Took my CCV out on my 2020 to install SPE kit. So I took apart the old bolt style ccv box
and there was no filter just an empty box.
Yea, they got rid of the filter
I’m surprised that thing didn’t have all kinds of oil leaks. 17-19s with that ccv filter we recommend at 50k and any that leak get a new filter. The filters always look like that although I haven’t seen one flake yet. And the engine has crazy leaks besides the upper oil pan leak like they all do we are seeing front or rear main leaks, front cover leaks, left/ right valve cover leaks or both! Leaks that we never saw with the older style ccv on the 14-16s. But man if the ccv changes to the old centrifugal style then ima just start recommending it to customers. As for that hose on the aftermarket delete kit I’d run it to some sort of separator or catch can. When I work on semi trucks some Cummins engines wouldn’t route the ccv to the intake. Instead the ccv filter would dump to atmosphere. And some trucks were just nasty, I wouldn’t do it on a 2021
Great videos. Best channel I've seen so far. I have no bolts. I thought a filtered one would be better but after watching this video I'm glad I don't.
Thanks Jason
I rerouted the hose to the underside of the driver side step, never smelt anything, I think I will put the SPE billet cheese grater in though.
SPE's CCV Delete and Internal Catch Can (Cheese Grater) is amazing. Have the combo on my '11, and have yet to have any oil residue out of the dump tube. 👍
Thanks Ryan!!
Did you have any issues with a check engine light after you did the SPE delete
I havent heard of one no.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod without a tune
Removing the ccv.....doesn't require a tune....
I have looked at SPE before for my 19 F-250 the only reason why haven't is because CARB smog inspection.
Yepp
My duramax doesn't have a filter. It just lets the intake/ turbo eat the oil 😐 most guys cap off the intake and reroute hose to a catch can via heater hose
Those filters gotta go. Agree they have to be causing all these pan leaks on newer ones !!
Way to keep it real ..keep the great vids coming brother hope to get my 6.7 soon Massachusetts it's hard to find one I want
Thanks guy, appreciate your kind words
Great video and most I’ve seen will have pressure under the oil cap and 9 times out of 10 the upper oil pan is leaking, rear main or it’s pushing oil out of everywhere
Yepp
Did my 19’ and it’s cover had the bolts. 26k miles and the 2 filters were not swelling but 100% saturated and flaked easily . I’m guessing another 50k miles and it would have looked as bad as yours did .
Technicly speaking. What would happen if that filter flaked off while the truck was running.
I have a 7.3 but when I did the CCV mod I never noticed any smell. First I ran the dog house just back words and let the vapor fill the engine bay. No smell. Now I have a heater hose going down into the front drivers wheel well. No smell.
Outstanding content, as others have said with you and FordTechMakuloco. Also a subscriber to ModernDieselCory who gives great detail on this and other SPE products. 2017 F350 that had the non-serviceable CCV filter and now using cheese grater + reroute (not SPE) = great results (min to no scent and no drips). Disappointed with amount of oil residue at only 30k miles within intake pathway (cold side pipe upgrade) to include upper intake manifold mixing with EGR gases, nasty buildup of soot+ccv oil mist. Keep up the great work and look forward to your opinion with trying these products.
Need to get you on my show!!!
I had to install a reroute on my 13 due to the turbo/intake set up I was running didn’t have a place for the factory CCV set up. As a mechanic it really frees up a ton of space and cleans up the look. After beating the hell out of it for the last 10,000 miles I haven’t seen any oil leaks form at all. Vapor smell is not noticeable with windows up in traffic. Don’t even have oil drips. Worth my 80 bucks
So.. i would like to know where you found the kit for $80😂
My 2018 was loosing 5 Qts in between oil changes and they had a recall on what your talking about
The CCV without bolts is the
11-16 box with No Filter in it witch I hear everyone with the 17-19 are going to
Si
If the factory ccv box is backed up or clogged, could this cause the truck to smoke through the exhaust pipe at idle at a stop light? Sorry to bother with all my questions in the past but I'm desperate brother. Keep up the excellent videos, they're VERY INFORMATIVE and SO HELPFUL. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Not really
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 👍
I would have thought the other end of the hose from the "cheese grater' would have a fitting to the other port on the valve cover to route the gasses back in, then there is no smell or drip... seems simple solution.
The point is to remove....the gases...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod But to vent to atmosphere is not good, better to re burn them through the intake? My mistake on my previous post, I should have said intake for the other end of the hose .
SPE parts are pretty amazing I’m getting ready to throw a whole bunch of stuff at my truck from them once my warranty runs out. The cold side inner cooler and hot side pipe are definitely a must to replace right away. @SPE
Be nice if they responded back to me 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yeah apparently that’s one of the only complaints people have their response time isn’t that great.
I LOVE my HSM hot and cold pipes…love the color choices for the hot side
This is why oil pans were losing their seal and having to pull. My dealer could not fix the leak.
So I have 200K miles and didn't even know I had this box. Mine should be looking good, Lol. SPE also has that disaster kit I'm getting and I saw this on there web site. Looks like I'm grabbing one.. I bet the updated Ford CCV box is $500 bucks??
Helllllllo SPE!?!?!?!?!?
I got and spe kit on my truck work great rerouted it into my exhaust so it just burns off inside the exhaust then you dont get the smell
Have you changed a filterless box for cause? Crack that baby open so we can see it! Great videos. I have a 19 F250 and the boltless one is installed.
My 2016 F250 (bought new) has the sealed filter less box. It sounds like it’s Maintenance free?
Interesting enough I've had a P0170 caused by a filterless CCV box on 2 trucks. Both 2017s. Replace the CCV and it never came back. So I'm not sure what happens inside of them, but something fails in those too.
Hi Matt. I have 2017 F350 Dually and pull RV trailers all over N America. At around 141000 miles I started getting the P0170 code. I stopped at several dealers and the checked it with their super computers and can't tell what's causing it. Everything checks out ok. They just clear the codes and I go on my way. How did you come up with the cc box causing the code. Text me or call me.
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Are they single rear wheel trucks? The drw truck have a different box than the srw trucks. On the srw trucks you can change just the diaphragm, cap and spring. It is the round part on the assembly. I am going to do that in the next few days on my 18 f350 srw. I do not think dealers sell just the diaphragm, cap and spring kit just the whole assembly. Dorman ( I think part number 918359) has the part kit. You can get it at Rocl Auto or a local part store. Just under $40 at a part store and $18 at Rock.
Juss get the drw one & be done
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod that will fit on srw trucks? Cool! I just checked for crankcase pressure on mine after I changes my trans fluid today. It wouldn't even move a paper towel. I should be good for a little longer but will change soon to have some piece of mind.
I had mine ran into my down pipe for a year or so, put my box back on. Got tired of the smoke coming from the exhaust.
Gotchaaa
Very nice explanation
On the grater, if you talked about it, I missed it, what about it setting off CEL without tuning?
there is a vid on SPE that talks to the electrical connection. my 17 does not have it.
Ok
The ones with the filter are only on the dually trucks I believe.
I have the SPE CCV delete works great
curious about doing this, just a thought, couldn't someone just remove the hose from the CCV box, replace with a properly fitted hose, run that hose to the back of the truck, find a properly fitting cap for the intake side and be done. This way you have a catch can(CCV BOX) and venting to the atmosphere instead of the engine. Seems like it would work and save money.
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@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod seems like a good idea. ??? Thoughts
Id say cleaver way of using exsisting equipement, repurposed
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have the new style and I've seen the internals of the new style and that's all it seems to be, a catch can. Keep it up, I watch everything you put out.
Thanks pal, we're working hard to help keep you guys rollin down americas roads 🤙🤙
That filter is $$$. I'm gonna pull mine at 50K and check and see how bad it is. My truck is maintained to a T. T6 oil changes every 5k, fuel filters every 15k and air filters every 20k.
MDC makes some great vids, been watching him for awhile now.
Who that
Modern diesel Corey
Oh yea i seen his vid
That filter was really plugged! In your opinion, can the quality of the oil and proper service intervals help alleviate the plugged CCV issue? Only reason I ask is because I ran a catch can on the 2.7 ecoboost I used to have. In about 5000 miles (or an oil change interval) I had to empty that thing about 3 maybe 4 times with the motorcraft oil. When I switched to a different brand full synthetic (same viscosity) the catch can literally caught almost nothing in between oil changes, maybe a teaspoon of crap would come out. So it made me raise a question of, is the CCV delete really necessary, or was service intervals/the quality of the oil the cause of the CCV having an issue? Love watching your channel!
Tonight, we talk about CCVS ALLLL NIGHT. Podcast here we comr
17 and up..its a must...11-16... Its a lifetime filter
Funny you say this is a lifetime part as mine is being replaced on my 2011 for it leaking to atmosphere.
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@@mikesmk7624 so you got a free ccv mod then ha
It was 😂 till the dealership replaced it under warranty. Took it in for a wheel seal leaking and change all the fluids it’s now day 11. At least the ford premier warranty is paying off lol.
Dat Premium Care boi
i actually got the upgrade on it and now its makin a wierd buzzing noise when idiling once i take off it stops but starts again when braking
Hmmmm
I'm in the process of doing mine as we speak and it looks like I have the one without the filter inside but the housing is still breaking down and I'm having leaking and clogging issues nonetheless so... its gone now. Hopefully my leaks stop 🤞
That happens on trucks that doesn't heat up the motor a little before they take off
Early 2017 6.7 powerstroke i don't have the bolts on top just ordered the spe recirculation kit i hope i did the right thing truck only has 50,000 miles on it
Yes ditch that crappy box
Thank you sir
This is insane. First I'm dealing with a fuel pump that's not made for US fuel , now I'm dealing with huge under the hood components that are completely worthless and should be removed.
thank the EPA. You’ve also got an entire exhaust system that’s completely worthless and should be removed.
You probably vote democrat too. They are responsible for all of it
Have you used a mishimoto
MMBCC-F2D-17BE. I have a 2022 ford f350 6.7. I’d be interested in seeing how the
MMBCC-F2D-17BE works. I’d even do more modifications and pay you to do it with what ever upgrades you thought were needed.
Thank you
I am doing the CCV delete this week and getting the cheese grater soon
Did you ever do a video showing how to remove the collar on a 2023?
I need too. Super easy tho
If the new box doesn't have a filter inside? My can't we just remove of old filter and replace the cover ? empty box no filter. Wouldn't that work ?
Would it? Try it and report back
It's odd, I have a 17 F-250, build date 2/17. My ccv box is not serviceable. Have you seen the same? I think it's a carry over from the 11-16 trucks.
Yes
Mine didn’t have a filter but was replaced anyways idk why but ford replaced it
Good video ARod but l don't think I'll do that to my 2016 F350. Thanks ARod
ive been thinking about doing this with my 17 F350.
have you done it ? 2016 F350 here. Tho my lieagae is only 23k..
Hey on the water separator filter .the whole filter gets replaced when you time fora new one.
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Excellent! Thank you for this video!! This is the most mysterious part of the 6.7. On another note, are idle hours part of engine hours or do you add them together to get total hours?
Also I run a Mishimoto catch can
No they are separate
My 14 had the non filter box. All 12-14 trucks have the box with no filter.
Si
Did mine and ran it into my exhaust so I don’t have the smell
I remember a couple years ago I told you I got this CCV re-route kit for my 2016 and you said "For the love of God don't use SPE"😂
Still feel the same
Been waiting on mine for 2 monthes. 🤓
Smeading diesel sells a kit too. Got mine in 1 week
One of Fords “better ideas”!🤣
I am running the CCV delete and I do not like it at all. It’s smokes at stoplights and at drive-through restaurants it’s really aggravating. I did see someone else’s TH-cam channel where they said it’s actually bad for the Turbo. It causes the turbo seals to leak. Have you heard anything about that?
That, someone......yeah i know who...& thats the biggest crock of you know what.........sorry for your troubles