@@Sukunover Not really tbh. The chance of that working is one in a million and even if it did, he would still get clapped by the other fighters in DB just jumping him.
I feel like the argument that Sukuna can take over other people's bodies via cursed fingers wouldn't work against Buu, since he's a magical creature with full control over his body, and Baby in GT literally tried this shit on him and failed, so he'd probably just spit the finger back out
Or turn it to chocolate. Though Vegito shows that transformed persons are still ensouled in the candy so that might not destroy Sukuna but makes him a lot more meltable.
@kaystruenoo True, but KI also stops or weakens hax if used on you, so with enough KI Goku probably can block even a world cutting slash or a domain expansion. Vegito is just like that.
Depends on which buu tbh. It ain't about buu being magic cuz sukuna is magic too, and buu kinda lacks willpower. Evil buu the skinny twig version and anything else? Hell naw. But fat buu? Hell yeah. Although it depends cuz if sukuna gets turned into chocolate then it's over but if buu's dumbass eats a couple fingers then... Ooof
Imagine using the established power system to your advantage...instead of gaining some random power up because the story "demands it" you're able to push what the author of your verse already made common knowledge...no your right it's an "ass pull"
@@G.LD.he fried his brain and can't use Domain expansion. He took a full Jacobs ladder. And then used ANOTHER DOMAIN EXPANSION!!!!! While being weakened by 8 black flash yuji strike. Which should have made it so the buff from his Black flash went away. Now he's using another one last chapter.... You riding his meat more than gege
@@G.LD. the problem with this from any side is that it gives op boosts in which we most of the time don't know the counterpart of it/the counterpart is way too easy to compensate. Maybe next chapter Sukuna will make a binding vow in which Gojo and Yuta were never born to begin with in exchange for Sukuna to lose a single hair
Yep. We have to for this to be half as long as it is. It's also why we had to scale Sukuna to lightspeed for him to even stand a chance. Not a bad video, but I wish the "glazing" section started a lot earlier.
@alfieclark5390 plus give him free access to learn body change. He would have to be stopped before meeting someone like Beerus. Although I imagine if that happened Whis would just reverse time and then beerus would insta hakai him with no playing.
@@toothclon though if it's in character I don't think Roshi would aim a Kamehameha that destructive right at Sukuna when he's in a crowded tournament arena
My issue in the Fanfiction section is that it's assuming Sukuna could over power their soul. Which if it's even Saiyan Saga Goku his body and soul are connected to each other. Meaning Sukuna still has to fight Goku for control.
Yeah, Babidi was the most powerfull sorcerer in dbz verse and vegeta had to let babidi control him, and even then he just shrugged babidis mind control off and said, fuck this, I just want to fight Goku. Even when a saiyan let himself be controled he is NOT controled, I dont think people aknowledge how powerfull the sayans minds are with those fanfics, they always use some mind trick as a weapon against saiyans as if they are just strong brainless dudes.
@@danielsepulveda5852 Even if they supress Sukuna, they can't actually expel his soul out of their bodies without killing themselves first. Sukuna's soul will always be there, supressed in the depths of your body, and the moment you grow too weak to resist he'll take over. Sooner or later he'll get control. Sukuna is no stranger to biding his time. Dude waited 1000 years to be incarnated again.
>wanks sukuna to ftl >doesn't realize db characters are ftl since red ribbon army/ 22 tenkaichi budokai Sukuna stops at full power roshi or 22 tenkaichi goku / tenshinhan
Yeah. I haven’t watched DB in a while but I do recall Goku fighting a famous actor and taking him out in a couple hits that were so fast it appeared to the entire crowd as being a single punch.
@@jpackgaming9193king piccolo is stronger than roshi who is moon level and relativistic sakuna has to be wanked to island level and there’s no speed feats putting him relativistic and mach 3 is considered fast in jjk
I don’t like light speed sukuna, the three obvious things people will say to the kashimo em waves thing would be: 1. He was aim dodging 2. EM waves are only light speed in a vacuum 3. “If I can dodge a ball moving at 100 mph does that make me 100mph” All these arguments work well enough to debunk it for me. But the real thing that makes me hesitant to say he’s light speed, is that it would tear JJK scaling apart at the seams. If Sukuna is light speed than a bunch of people become WAY faster than we know they are. In the fight after his fight with kashimo people like Itadori, Maki, Kusakabe, ETC are atleast keeping up with sukuna. That along with the three more obvious reasons listed above, generally has me keeping sukuna at island level and somewhere in the massively hypersonic ranges.
Island lvl??? Where is this coming from?? Is it from the domain thing that one fish guy did??? If so, then it ISN'T island lvl by your standards, its STAR lvl, because in his domain, a sun was just up there 😂😂 Not to mention the backgrounds in domains don't really exist in a natural way, so you can't scale them via creation feats.
Island level is a lowball tbh since domain are ENTIRELY MADE OF CURSED ENERGY not to mention jogo made a mountain with his domain it has been very consistent that everything in your domain is made of your cursed energy so the disaster curses and anyone above would scale to island level@asmodeusguys4472
@asmodeusguys4472 also way more people than just dagon(the fish guy) have made island level domain for example gojo, gojo made a literal infinite void with his CE this is because of his six etes that make his cursed energy almost boundless
Why is everybody keep ignoring things like Goku dodging a laser beam from general Black. These kinds of videos are full of assumptions, so Goku being light speed as early on as the RR army arc is completely valid. Also, ki attacks with the ability not only to destroy stuff but vaporize them seems hot enough in my book. This seems like a lot of misinterpretation (or maybe biased) towards presented characters
@@nombie1760 absolutely nothing, you are spot on. kid goku also outran tenshinhan's solar flare at 23rd world tournament. y'know, a literal stated beam of light
@@averagetf2player764 *mask falls off face revealing to br a fan of other series* uh no trust me bro i totally love the same series you do bro but you're tweaking bro trust me bro the other series is totally better bro but im on your side bro
One thing i disagree with is that sukuna outspeeds the 22nd world tournament characters. Goku was able to run to roshi, take his sun glasses, and use them to negate rhe solar flare technique. All that movement occurring AFTER it was fired. Meaning goku and those at that level and beyond were all massively faster than light
I haven’t watched DB in a while but Goku managed to beat a famous martial artist and actor in a couple of punches that were so fast the crowd believed it was a single punch thrown.
9:16 King of Curses Sukuna "Legendary Existence" or "Inhuman Deeds" Category Ki+4 and HP, ATK & DEF +150%; plus an additional HP, ATK & DEF +20% for characters who also belong to the "Crossover" Category
The King of Curses Ryomen Sukuna “Storied Figures”, “Inhuman Deeds” or “Legendary Existence” Category Ki +4 and HP, ATK & DEF +170%, plus an additional HP, ATK & DEF +30% for characters who also belong to the “Gifted Warriors” or “Crossover” Category
Sometime you might want to consider. Ki attacks are pure heat. I think gohan tries to cook something with a blast during the cell saga but ends up burning it, like, not pulverized, it gets burnt, so it's safe to assume that if a character can handle a ki blast capable of making the moon explode then they can handle a level of heat necessary to do that, to make an example
You’d have to prove those move at light speed for it to count as a FTL feat, given how inconsistent mechanical lasers are in fiction. This is pretty standard for most powerscaling discussions
@@TheSaladBarThe same goku dodged and outspeed solar flare which is stated to be beam of light.The lazers doged occur by way stronger goku even with power progression alone goku should be way beyond light speed.Strength increase and speed go hand in hand in dragonball.Not heat resistant is insane bad argument.Considering you clearly see getting ruined or burned if not completely destroyed by ki attacks.
And sukuna at most is lighting speed and he had to use aim dodge and electro magnetic waves only move at light speeds in a vacuum earth is not a vacuum
THANK YOU!!! (he's made other videos that mention that 'Kid Goku would get speed blitzed by anyone moving at light speeds' and I've been getting annoyed by it lol)
The top tiers are already MHS and are currently facing a heavily weakened Sukuna, plus they outnumber him. I have a separate video planned to discuss the speeds but I think it’s reasonable
@@TheSaladBar if sukuna was light speed how tf where mei mei's crows catching up to gojo and sukuna's battle, also name 1 other ftl feat that sukuna has besides that single EM wave feat. (and dont start saying hollow purple has imaginary mass and is faster then light, that litteraly makes no sense at all.)
i think sukuna being even being near lightspeed is overtly exaggerated. yes, kashimo was dishing out em waves but, we gotta recall that maki is just somewhat above mach 3 and she can actually react to sukuna's attacks. and sukuna was stated to be pretty much the same in stats as when he fought kashimo. gege already stated when maki caught mai's bullet that the speed feat was exaggerated.
You have to remember that Sukuna isn't actually fighting them. He's just fucking around. He could've instantly killed Maki if he wanted since he still had enough CE to use domain expansion(multiple times) and flames, he just chose to play around with her. He was probably slowing himself down so she could keep up.
@@JohnSmith-j7n he got stabbed in the heart and had to dedicate alot of ce to pump it, so domain was out of question at the time. he was only able to use domain due to black flashes increasing his ce/ ce output and he landed black flashes on her which would infer he's actually fighting because a black flash occur in the heat of the moment.
Saying Sukuna is light speed is definitely a high ball, but fine. That being the case, he makes it to Nappa/Vegeta, kills a few Saibamen along with Nappa, then gets turned inside out by Vegeta.
It’s not even close to a high ball, that’s glaze. He can’t possibly be anywhere near light level, because if he were, he would’ve been literally perception blitzing Gojo, who is probably speed of sound or supersonic at best
@@Baki659 If Sukuna is lightspeed, he blitzes Nappa, who is around relativistic. If this is the case, he has a laundry list of hax to overcome the AP difference. That's what he can do against Nappa. Again, I'm not convinced that he's lightspeed, but that's just me. Realistically, Sukuna gets to Tien and then gets hard blitzed and one shot.
@@teisen1895 so we're ignoring kid goku outrunning tenshinhan's solar flare in 23rd world tournament, a lightspeed feat before even DBZ and raditz being lightspeed? nappa was by no means slow (atleast for dbz standards) even if he's big and muscly, he was outspeeding literally every z fighter (whom were already lightspeed by that level)
@@hm9934 To be honest with you, people have been calling that feat an outlier, so I purposely left it out. I do think it's a legitimate feat though, because: 1. Goku grabbed the glasses and returned before Roshi realized where his glasses went 2. He put the glasses on before the light reached his eyes But yeah, if we're granting lightspeed to characters during the 23rd Budokai, then again, Sukuna gets wasted.
Now I want to see how far Sukuna would go if he was in Hueco Mundo. Obviously he will lose to the likes of Ulquiorra, Starrk, and Barragan but I wanna see how far he would go
Nah Sukuna wouldn't even make it to Ulq or the others, he'd get blitzed by Grimmjow. That dude outsped Ichigo's Bankai, which is literally optimized for speed. Grimmjow would beat Sukuna's ass.
@@gameuniverse5973 "star level at best" if we ignore the attack that cuts through dimensions, void's galaxy size explosion, and the fact that magolor's defeat BROKE A DIMENSION, not no ignore the fact that GK is comparable to these people (people never scale kirby correctly)
@@passtheapplejuice2619 people usually overscale kirby. They're like "BUT ITS STATED THAT BLAH BLAH BLAH" then when you pull out a statement of 2nd form Frieza being said to have the power to destroy the entire universe they're like "NOOOO YOU CAN'T RELY ON STATEMENTS ONLY FEATS MATTER ITS HYPERBOLE"
Nah man gonna be like "my fuga becomes 1 deggre celcius less hoter and in exchange i and my domain expansion can spam world slices without needing to chant, with no cooldown using 0 cursed energy per world slice
ngl its often hard to take lightspeed sukuna seriously when the more rational explanation is that hes just aim-dodging instead of reacting to the attack. especially when he gets hit by sound based attacks in the next page
Well Gege said that Awakend Maki is Mach 3 soooo we kinda have to scale Sukuna lower (tho I do think get why Gege said Mach 3 since just Normal Maki catching a bullet was Mach 25)
Gege said that he agreed with the interviewer saying that going from Mach 3 to Infinite is weird. As in, yes, it happened. Yes, he knows it's wonky. And that he just thought Mach sounded cool. The interview was in response to events right after Sakurajima colony, where Kenjaku reacts to the gravity of a black hole.
"P-please jackie chun.... i need this.... youre kinds too strong...." "Jackie chun im watching your stream, why you trying not to laugh bruh thats disrespectful as shit"
I was wondering if you make a similar video to this but more like “what if sukuna was born in the dragon ball world” so his personality/ iq/ talent in the dragon ball world. What ki abilities would he use and how would he go about becoming as strong as possible. I think it would be really interesting
You literally have to take away ki, make everyone limbless, deaf and blind (including og db as roshi can one tap the moon and kid goku is a gag character) and be new born babies for sukuna to even be able to do anything to anyone
If he was able to train like Krillin, Tien, etc, he could become very powerful. Given he has resources like Guru unlocking his potential, the dragon balls, the hyperbolic time chamber etc, I'm confident he could eventually become a Frieza level threat
@@Pinicle_of_evolution shenron would be the ultimate troll for that lmao but seriously sukuna would definitely be banking on someone eating his fingers if not that doesn’t work out shenron is his next option
Haven’t watched the complete video yet but I like how you started saying that he will make it even farther than Gojo. We are talking a nerfed down Sukuna here, obviously weaker than Gojo and one could argue, more easily scalable to Dragon Ball because his powers are more “fighting” like. But he is still a character from another series, so there are other factors to consider than just brute strength, so I’m curious to see how you arrived at that conclusion. Now what would be interesting is how Toji would fare. Since you have likened cursed energy to ki before (just so comparisons could be made), he would be the equivalent of a fighter displaying ki enhanced prowess without actually emitting ki, kind of like the androids. Without any bells and whistles, he would probably make it up until the Saiyan saga at most, but it would still be interesting to see. Unless he “trains” in Dragon Ball, which is something I could see Toji doing.
The one person body he can't snatch his Majin Buu. As soon as he put his finger inside of him he's just going to be in trapped in his body. Absorbing all his knowledge and techniques. He's going to act like him but he's definitely not going to be him.
4:29 to be fair i think the characters are mostly reacting to the cursed energy spark rather than pure lightning itself, but you could argue those sparks dont apply to kashimo’s basic electric attack, since it isn’t a technique activation itself
The kid goku downplay is crazy lol. Kid goku dodged lasers,lightnings and light speed attacks (before the dkp arc) and kid goku is multi-solar system level and we can debate that
fun fact: frieza does a world cutting slash against goku and literally splits namek in half just to flex on him. also sukuna is unironically chiaotzu level
A Dragonball characters defense is all reliant on their ki. When Goku blocked trunks sword attacks with his finger he concentrated his ki to guard that part of his body. Same would apply to heat. They can withstand incredibly hot temperatures but they need to use there ki to do it. If their guard is down they are more susceptible to attacks.
In Cell Saga, Gohan uses a ki blast to cook meat and accidentally overcooks it. Ki blasts are energy blasts and do give off heat. You grossly over estimate how much these fire attacks would actually damage dbz characters.
Yo so if you actually payed attention to the video at all he said that he'd only use manga material and surprise that is filler in the anime - also early showings in DBZ literally had goku with barely any heat resistance so he actually didint overestimate the effects of sukunas fire
Vegeta:Domain expansion planet Vegeta Makes it that he gains a extra life for every Saiyan that existed back then It turns to a random area of planet Vegeta Gohan :Domain expansion unleash the beast Forces the user and opponent to be peaceful and talk things out if the opponent does a violent action Gohan gets a power boost Frieza:Domain expansion hail to the emperor It decreases a opponent pain tolerance with them being unable to die Yup Frieza has a domain that theoretically helps the opponent but it actually a benefit for him Buu domain expansion:candy land Just makes a domain of a candy area that it no fighting benefit
Definitely stops BEFORE Frieza, how can he beat even RADITZ if he can blow up an entire planet at will? Not only that he would die almost instantly if he went up against Nappa who can destroy an entire city by moving his fingers. Y’all forget how strong these DBZ characters really are, he wouldn’t even be able to fight King Vegeta who destroys 3 planets by just moving his hand 😂 Sukuna definitely only surviving till King Piccolo or Raditz that’s it. Frieza arc is literally over kill. Don’t even think that these guys would get talked into eating any finger either if anyone of these guys I named see you as a weakling they will kill you without hesitation.
@@Shyrunnner people who compare jjk and dragon ball should let they see OG dragon ball first, tien,piccolo and goku already stronger than master.Roshi in last arc in OG dragon ball, and master roshi can destroy the moon ,that mean goku,tien,piccolo already above moon level that point
10:20 the heat resistance argument is out the window seeing as a super sayin trunks was able to not only tank but completely neutralize a supernova hot enough to destroy a planet on impact
7:31 i think the “gamble” he means was whether ripping off yuji’s finger would break the vow he made with him, not necessarily if megumi could survive or not
my goat could you do mob vs the dragon ball gauntlet, I love mob but there are so few videos on him, and I think he'll have some interesting interactions
Get cooked in db if you think the high biggest feat was city level gets cooked in z if you think it was planet level gets cooked at end of buu saga id you think it was universal
OG Dragon Ball is taking him out The devil might beam instantly kills anyone who has the smallest traces of evil in their body the moment sukuna gets hit by this he will fall over dead
Interesting video, but I do have some things to say (no offense). 1. There is a higher end scaling for Gojo's combat speed through his teleportation. Base off the original japanese text from JJK which is (瞬間移動/Shunkan Utsuri dō) it translates to "instantaneous teleportation" (according to Google translate), and Gojo is able to use it in close quarter combat and the fact that Sukuna was still able to keep up with him saids a lot about his speed. 2. There are three ways to scale Sukuna's strength and power. (Low-end scaling) In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone", and when he left and met up with Kenjaku he effortlessly created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the highest calculations for this feat puts it around island level. Sukuna not only scales to this but above it since he is stronger than Gojo who performed this feat. (Mid-end scaling) The durability/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane. Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling. (Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI) Small town level 4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level. Town level 2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level. Large town level 4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level. Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly dodged it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters. Example 2: Hanami is comparable to Jogo in strength so she would be around small-city level and Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around darf star levels of AP and Hanami took five of them which by adding up be around small-star level and she was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all, and Sukuna is stronger than Gojo. (High-end scaling) In the "JJK S1 animation guide" stated that in the manga infinite void was depicted as a blank void with an expanding swath of the universe and the director Sunghoo Park wanted it to look more godly so he consulted Gege Akutami about it and he gave him some ideas which resulted in the final product, if the constructs of a domain scale to the one who cast them then this proves that both Gojo and Sukuna are universal. An example of this being the case would be in chapter 234 when Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum output of their techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash. I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
@@deirdre9849 they would fall on the DB problem "multiversal, but he was knocked out by a tree" or the jjba problem "he can punch at the speed of light, can punch strong enough to break diamond and can stop time, therefore his geral speed is superior than light speed, all of the punches can break Diamond and time stop is completely invincible, therefore he is planetary level" I am exagerating common arguments that are used
Nerdy explanation again: Domain Expansion attacks aren’t just regular attacks that can be blocked or tanked. The cleave and dismantle attacks don’t actually travel through space to reach the target, they simply manifest directly on the body and inflict damage instantly. This is why they’re considered "sure-hit." But Sukuna gets blasted easily regardless. I mentioned this because at the timestamp 13:32 it would make the attacks even stronger, but the Domain itself causes attacks to appear directly on you. This is explained during the Dagon Domain fight on C14 S2
Not letting him have ten shadows was a huge nerf 😭 even tho you’re being accurate, given the fact this is a db gauntlet one of the strongest anime verses, I would have given him anything at his disposal 😅. Even hypothetically.
Tbh, the Skuna body stealing is a good idea. Ginuy stole Goku's body but had no idea how to actually use his powers....making Ginyu's power level drop to about 23k. So unless we assume Skuna can actually use others' powers, Skuna would hard stop at the base non powered up version of whoevers body he steals. Considering Goku unpowered up was almost killed by a weak ki blast condensed into a lazor...it just wouldn't help Skuna much.
True, and remember than Ginyu was SKILLED in his craft, he had done body stealing god-knows how many times, and has also used KI a LOT. But, sukuna? CUrsed energy is nothing like KI!a nd sukuna's body-stealing technique is nowhere near as easy to do as Ginyu's.
PLEASE do JJK Vs demon slayer.🙏 people in my editing community are saying demon slayer is faster than jjk by a lot. And apparently, according to them, Tanjiro is past Mach 35K????
Cell vs maho is gonna be crazy also sukuna ain’t getting pass the androids or cell imo he dont got Infinity like gojo so he gon be eating allat attack and he’s getting jumped by 17&18 with perfect teamwork like better and stronger yuji and todo
@@SuperiorIronMan0Nah cell going to do a Vegeta and make him permanent to all his moves out of fun like sukuna said maho could get immune to getting slashed in general
@@gameuniverse5973 Perfect Cell can literally destroy the universe. Mahoraga gets vaporized like what sukuna did with Malevolent shrine and fuga. Those two attacks are below moon level much less universal. Sukuna reasonably stops at the 21st world tournament with roshi and Goku.
"Sukuna could make it through the Saiyan arc if everyone just stands still and lets him cut them in half."
Legendary video
lmfao facts
he did say he was gonna start glazing him immensely
@@mango7137 nah sukuna doesnt make it past when goku first learened the kahmekameha
@Gokus_alt yeah but if Goku just sits still and let's Sukuna cut him in half he wins lmao
@@mango7137 no goku would have to be sick and having his ki energy at lowest
If Sukuna fought Beerus he would have to come to the terrifying realization that Beerus is glazed by Toyotaro more then Gege glazes him
But would you lose? Nah Id Glaze
The most glazed in history vs the most glazed of today
@@fkeyae4217 👑
Lmao pure facts 😂
I’m sorry no one glazes like Gege glazes Sakuna I mean in the dragon ball super anime they made berus into a joke Gege would never do that to Sakuna
"Come outside bro, we promise we won't jump you." ahh thumbnail 😂.
Sukuna Backshotting
@@Sukunover Sukuna loses to the lowest low tiers in the verse
@@kaystruenoo Video says otherwise
@@mr.leorio7148 The video is wrong
@@kaystruenoo u sure ur not just glazing db?
Can't wait for what if goku landed in new mexico part 69 where he gets betrayed and trapped in the time chamber by kid named finger
Gojo return
Dark souls reference
Then he buys the kid after they are sold into slavery, becoming Sukuna's Finger
"Every man couldn't have seen the same video!" Goku gets betrayed and trapped in the HTC:🗿
"throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the screwed one"
-Sukuna teleported to db
DB you mean
He solos if finger trick works
@@Sukunover Not really tbh. The chance of that working is one in a million and even if it did, he would still get clapped by the other fighters in DB just jumping him.
@@Sukunover that ain't doing shit
111 👍
"Ah yes, my Anti Goku Technique. I haven't had to use this since the Heian Era."
You’re here too? Real…
@@TheSaladBar Any salad membership gets recommended and my bank account starts speaking like the green goblin mask
“Idgaf if that mf had a ability called "beat goku" that let him instantly beat Goku no matter what
He still ain't beating goku”
These never get old 😂
@@ermlmaofinger trick gg
I feel like the argument that Sukuna can take over other people's bodies via cursed fingers wouldn't work against Buu, since he's a magical creature with full control over his body, and Baby in GT literally tried this shit on him and failed, so he'd probably just spit the finger back out
Or turn it to chocolate. Though Vegito shows that transformed persons are still ensouled in the candy so that might not destroy Sukuna but makes him a lot more meltable.
@@if7723 Vegito shows that he was just so powerful he negged some of the beam's properties. Only his physical form changed but he kept all his stats.
@kaystruenoo True, but KI also stops or weakens hax if used on you, so with enough KI Goku probably can block even a world cutting slash or a domain expansion. Vegito is just like that.
@@if7723its cause for some reason, vegito has a bit of gag powers
Depends on which buu tbh. It ain't about buu being magic cuz sukuna is magic too, and buu kinda lacks willpower. Evil buu the skinny twig version and anything else? Hell naw. But fat buu? Hell yeah. Although it depends cuz if sukuna gets turned into chocolate then it's over but if buu's dumbass eats a couple fingers then... Ooof
"Nah I'd make binding vows"
-Binding vow merchant, sukuna
Imagine using the established power system to your advantage...instead of gaining some random power up because the story "demands it" you're able to push what the author of your verse already made common knowledge...no your right it's an "ass pull"
@@G.LD.he fried his brain and can't use Domain expansion. He took a full Jacobs ladder. And then used ANOTHER DOMAIN EXPANSION!!!!! While being weakened by 8 black flash yuji strike. Which should have made it so the buff from his Black flash went away. Now he's using another one last chapter.... You riding his meat more than gege
@@G.LD.facts
🤓☝️@@G.LD.
@@G.LD. the problem with this from any side is that it gives op boosts in which we most of the time don't know the counterpart of it/the counterpart is way too easy to compensate. Maybe next chapter Sukuna will make a binding vow in which Gojo and Yuta were never born to begin with in exchange for Sukuna to lose a single hair
RUNNN SUKUNA YOU'RE NOT EVEN 23RD WORLD TOURNAMENT CHIAZU LEVEL!
Probably not even Jackie Chun level, as he blew up the damn moon.
Ngl he should stop at 23rd world tournament
@@SillyWilly_89 thanks you for saying something smart
I have never seen so much sukuna glazing
@@MountainMemelord jackie chun is master roshi brother
Hell, he should realistically stop at DKP.
.....we're not ignoring Goku outrunning the Solar Flare, literally a burst of light, when fighting Tien.
Yep. We have to for this to be half as long as it is. It's also why we had to scale Sukuna to lightspeed for him to even stand a chance. Not a bad video, but I wish the "glazing" section started a lot earlier.
Not to mention him dodging heat beams in RR saga.
@@Agent-57 To be fair those are a bit more debatable being lasers. But they act like them so it's also viable in my book.
Dragon Ball being LightSpeed before Z gets heavily contradicted by Dyspo’s entire existence so yes, ignore the joke scene
@PALWolfOS And Sukuna being lightspeed is contradicted by... There being no lightspeed feats. Yet here we are.
Imagine him tricking ginyu to eat his finger, giving him access to body change.
Is would be so broken and yet the best uno reverse
@alfieclark5390 plus give him free access to learn body change. He would have to be stopped before meeting someone like Beerus.
Although I imagine if that happened Whis would just reverse time and then beerus would insta hakai him with no playing.
@@alfieclark5390sukuna solos dbz then
Assuming he can take over aliens.
Ginyu (having been in different many times) should have the strength to keep sukuna in
Giving sukuna light speed combat and movement as a consistent feat is wildly highball and his most non-consistent feat
How else would he make the video interestingndont want it to end too quick
it's like saying that the real life bruce lee could move at the speed of sound 😭
@@NerdGohan goat lee solos FR FR FR
*Gokuna forces his finger into cells mouth*
Cell: ugh that's rancid wtf "spits it out"
I think you glazed this man more than Gege does
I always glaze the character of discussion in these videos 🫡🫡🫡
@@TheSaladBardb is too strong without glazing sukuna hed lose at Frieza 😭
@@Ichi-BroFirst tournament Roshi or Goku that's a highball
@@ThomasAlexander-r3k literally, fp roshi in the first tournament destroyed the moon alr, theres no fking way sukuna is making it out of db saga
@@toothclon though if it's in character I don't think Roshi would aim a Kamehameha that destructive right at Sukuna when he's in a crowded tournament arena
My issue in the Fanfiction section is that it's assuming Sukuna could over power their soul.
Which if it's even Saiyan Saga Goku his body and soul are connected to each other. Meaning Sukuna still has to fight Goku for control.
Yeah, Babidi was the most powerfull sorcerer in dbz verse and vegeta had to let babidi control him, and even then he just shrugged babidis mind control off and said, fuck this, I just want to fight Goku.
Even when a saiyan let himself be controled he is NOT controled, I dont think people aknowledge how powerfull the sayans minds are with those fanfics, they always use some mind trick as a weapon against saiyans as if they are just strong brainless dudes.
@@danielsepulveda5852 The strongest in history vs the weakest Saiyan spirit
@@danielsepulveda5852 Even if they supress Sukuna, they can't actually expel his soul out of their bodies without killing themselves first. Sukuna's soul will always be there, supressed in the depths of your body, and the moment you grow too weak to resist he'll take over. Sooner or later he'll get control. Sukuna is no stranger to biding his time. Dude waited 1000 years to be incarnated again.
@@JohnSmith-j7n Time to gather the Dragon Balls.
@@johnlucas2838 Okay yeah that'd probably work.
>wanks sukuna to ftl
>doesn't realize db characters are ftl since red ribbon army/ 22 tenkaichi budokai
Sukuna stops at full power roshi or 22 tenkaichi goku / tenshinhan
real
Yeah. I haven’t watched DB in a while but I do recall Goku fighting a famous actor and taking him out in a couple hits that were so fast it appeared to the entire crowd as being a single punch.
I personally think sukana Is at the level of king piccolo tbh
@@MahitoShouldveWon he also outsped light based attack
@@jpackgaming9193king piccolo is stronger than roshi who is moon level and relativistic sakuna has to be wanked to island level and there’s no speed feats putting him relativistic and mach 3 is considered fast in jjk
I don’t like light speed sukuna, the three obvious things people will say to the kashimo em waves thing would be:
1. He was aim dodging
2. EM waves are only light speed in a vacuum
3. “If I can dodge a ball moving at 100 mph does that make me 100mph”
All these arguments work well enough to debunk it for me. But the real thing that makes me hesitant to say he’s light speed, is that it would tear JJK scaling apart at the seams.
If Sukuna is light speed than a bunch of people become WAY faster than we know they are. In the fight after his fight with kashimo people like Itadori, Maki, Kusakabe, ETC are atleast keeping up with sukuna.
That along with the three more obvious reasons listed above, generally has me keeping sukuna at island level and somewhere in the massively hypersonic ranges.
I know you said you’d make a video addressing one of the claims I made, but until it comes out I don’t know how to justify lightspeed sukuna
Island level is wayy to high. City at best. Domain scaling is illogical.
Island lvl??? Where is this coming from?? Is it from the domain thing that one fish guy did???
If so, then it ISN'T island lvl by your standards, its STAR lvl, because in his domain, a sun was just up there 😂😂
Not to mention the backgrounds in domains don't really exist in a natural way, so you can't scale them via creation feats.
Island level is a lowball tbh since domain are ENTIRELY MADE OF CURSED ENERGY not to mention jogo made a mountain with his domain it has been very consistent that everything in your domain is made of your cursed energy so the disaster curses and anyone above would scale to island level@asmodeusguys4472
@asmodeusguys4472 also way more people than just dagon(the fish guy) have made island level domain for example gojo, gojo made a literal infinite void with his CE this is because of his six etes that make his cursed energy almost boundless
Why is everybody keep ignoring things like Goku dodging a laser beam from general Black. These kinds of videos are full of assumptions, so Goku being light speed as early on as the RR army arc is completely valid. Also, ki attacks with the ability not only to destroy stuff but vaporize them seems hot enough in my book. This seems like a lot of misinterpretation (or maybe biased) towards presented characters
I love db but your tweaking
@@DADRB0B55 Then tell me what's wrong about my argumentation
@@nombie1760 absolutely nothing, you are spot on. kid goku also outran tenshinhan's solar flare at 23rd world tournament. y'know, a literal stated beam of light
@@DADRB0B55 the generic "Hey man! I love *insert series* but your tweaking!"
@@averagetf2player764 *mask falls off face revealing to br a fan of other series* uh no trust me bro i totally love the same series you do bro but you're tweaking bro trust me bro the other series is totally better bro but im on your side bro
One thing i disagree with is that sukuna outspeeds the 22nd world tournament characters.
Goku was able to run to roshi, take his sun glasses, and use them to negate rhe solar flare technique. All that movement occurring AFTER it was fired. Meaning goku and those at that level and beyond were all massively faster than light
I haven’t watched DB in a while but Goku managed to beat a famous martial artist and actor in a couple of punches that were so fast the crowd believed it was a single punch thrown.
@@MahitoShouldveWon indeed. Though the sunglasses feat (as shown in your PFP) is vastly beyond that.
9:16
King of Curses Sukuna
"Legendary Existence" or "Inhuman Deeds" Category Ki+4 and HP, ATK & DEF +150%; plus an additional HP, ATK & DEF +20% for characters who also belong to the "Crossover" Category
Not even a 200% lead?
no 3 category lead, 170%-yeah this guy is TRASH. also what good characters are on his full leaderskill lmao
The King of Curses Ryomen Sukuna
“Storied Figures”, “Inhuman Deeds” or “Legendary Existence” Category Ki +4 and HP, ATK & DEF +170%, plus an additional HP, ATK & DEF +30% for characters who also belong to the “Gifted Warriors” or “Crossover” Category
Make his active skill a malevolent kitchen active skill for and a down active skill that uses fuga
trash ass 170% lead my king teq ulthan solos
"hey Goku, you like eating things right? Try this weird piece of beef jerky that's definitely not my finger"
Bro glazed him more than Gege ever could
Peak fiction
Sometime you might want to consider. Ki attacks are pure heat. I think gohan tries to cook something with a blast during the cell saga but ends up burning it, like, not pulverized, it gets burnt, so it's safe to assume that if a character can handle a ki blast capable of making the moon explode then they can handle a level of heat necessary to do that, to make an example
Sukuna FTL is already glazing
Sukuna is NOT faster than light 😭 the glazing is crazyyyy, and also didnt goku outrunned a solar flare?
Kid Goku literally dodged lasers… are we forgetting this??
You’d have to prove those move at light speed for it to count as a FTL feat, given how inconsistent mechanical lasers are in fiction. This is pretty standard for most powerscaling discussions
@@TheSaladBarThe same goku dodged and outspeed solar flare which is stated to be beam of light.The lazers doged occur by way stronger goku even with power progression alone goku should be way beyond light speed.Strength increase and speed go hand in hand in dragonball.Not heat resistant is insane bad argument.Considering you clearly see getting ruined or burned if not completely destroyed by ki attacks.
And sukuna at most is lighting speed and he had to use aim dodge and electro magnetic waves only move at light speeds in a vacuum earth is not a vacuum
Then he almost died from getting shot by a lazer gun
THANK YOU!!! (he's made other videos that mention that 'Kid Goku would get speed blitzed by anyone moving at light speeds' and I've been getting annoyed by it lol)
Sukuna stops at Master Roshi cause his ass will just get blown away like the fuckin' moon by Roshi's kamehameha.
My problem is Sukuna being faster than light would just make absolutely no sense in jjk and everyone he was and is fighting.
The top tiers are already MHS and are currently facing a heavily weakened Sukuna, plus they outnumber him. I have a separate video planned to discuss the speeds but I think it’s reasonable
@@TheSaladBar if sukuna was light speed how tf where mei mei's crows catching up to gojo and sukuna's battle, also name 1 other ftl feat that sukuna has besides that single EM wave feat. (and dont start saying hollow purple has imaginary mass and is faster then light, that litteraly makes no sense at all.)
@@TheSaladBar he's only lightning speed, not light speed
@@bubbles5343 Hakari reacted to lightning though and Hakari is a massive bum compared to even weakened Sukuna.
@@JohnSmith-j7nI mean, lightning is SEVERAL times slower than light, so it makes sense
If Yuji ate 15 of Sukuna's fingers, then Majin Boo would eat Sukuna entirely.
Majin boo makes the entire verse into chocolate
Buu like chocolate
i think sukuna being even being near lightspeed is overtly exaggerated. yes, kashimo was dishing out em waves but, we gotta recall that maki is just somewhat above mach 3 and she can actually react to sukuna's attacks. and sukuna was stated to be pretty much the same in stats as when he fought kashimo. gege already stated when maki caught mai's bullet that the speed feat was exaggerated.
You have to remember that Sukuna isn't actually fighting them. He's just fucking around.
He could've instantly killed Maki if he wanted since he still had enough CE to use domain expansion(multiple times) and flames, he just chose to play around with her. He was probably slowing himself down so she could keep up.
@@JohnSmith-j7n he got stabbed in the heart and had to dedicate alot of ce to pump it, so domain was out of question at the time. he was only able to use domain due to black flashes increasing his ce/ ce output and he landed black flashes on her which would infer he's actually fighting because a black flash occur in the heat of the moment.
Bro stops at demon king piccolo arc💀😭
Honestly that aint that bad💀
probably 22nd tenakichi budokai
he stops at the first tournament💀 roshi was moon level while sukuna is a island level fodder
@@mxario-t8p sukuna is city level man 💀
bro is lucky to even get there LMAO
Saying Sukuna is light speed is definitely a high ball, but fine.
That being the case, he makes it to Nappa/Vegeta, kills a few Saibamen along with Nappa, then gets turned inside out by Vegeta.
It’s not even close to a high ball, that’s glaze. He can’t possibly be anywhere near light level, because if he were, he would’ve been literally perception blitzing Gojo, who is probably speed of sound or supersonic at best
Nappa destroys lmao,tfs a city level fodder doing to a moon-planetary character
@@Baki659 If Sukuna is lightspeed, he blitzes Nappa, who is around relativistic.
If this is the case, he has a laundry list of hax to overcome the AP difference. That's what he can do against Nappa. Again, I'm not convinced that he's lightspeed, but that's just me. Realistically, Sukuna gets to Tien and then gets hard blitzed and one shot.
@@teisen1895 so we're ignoring kid goku outrunning tenshinhan's solar flare in 23rd world tournament, a lightspeed feat before even DBZ and raditz being lightspeed? nappa was by no means slow (atleast for dbz standards) even if he's big and muscly, he was outspeeding literally every z fighter (whom were already lightspeed by that level)
@@hm9934 To be honest with you, people have been calling that feat an outlier, so I purposely left it out. I do think it's a legitimate feat though, because:
1. Goku grabbed the glasses and returned before Roshi realized where his glasses went
2. He put the glasses on before the light reached his eyes
But yeah, if we're granting lightspeed to characters during the 23rd Budokai, then again, Sukuna gets wasted.
Now I want to see how far Sukuna would go if he was in Hueco Mundo. Obviously he will lose to the likes of Ulquiorra, Starrk, and Barragan but I wanna see how far he would go
Sukuna gets murdered by arrelechino
I'd actually like to see him have to fight a hoard of Gillian, he's got the obvious mental advantage but a barrage of Cero might actually mess him up.
Nah Sukuna wouldn't even make it to Ulq or the others, he'd get blitzed by Grimmjow. That dude outsped Ichigo's Bankai, which is literally optimized for speed. Grimmjow would beat Sukuna's ass.
Espada 10 yammy is enough
real tech "How far does galacta knight from kirby make it into DB"
The entirety of Z.
@@inkchariot6147nah man gets cooked star level at best ahhh
@@inkchariot6147stops at Frieza
@@gameuniverse5973 "star level at best" if we ignore the attack that cuts through dimensions, void's galaxy size explosion, and the fact that magolor's defeat BROKE A DIMENSION, not no ignore the fact that GK is comparable to these people (people never scale kirby correctly)
@@passtheapplejuice2619 people usually overscale kirby. They're like "BUT ITS STATED THAT BLAH BLAH BLAH" then when you pull out a statement of 2nd form Frieza being said to have the power to destroy the entire universe they're like "NOOOO YOU CAN'T RELY ON STATEMENTS ONLY FEATS MATTER ITS HYPERBOLE"
Sukuna is a literally kid goku victim he dosent make it to dbz☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
You see, I’ll use a binding vow I can no longer use Cleave or dismantle I get to only use world slashes
Nah man gonna be like "my fuga becomes 1 deggre celcius less hoter and in exchange i and my domain expansion can spam world slices without needing to chant, with no cooldown using 0 cursed energy per world slice
So this entire video is base off extreme high ball sukuna speed, and “ignore durability” dismantle 💀
idk why I got so hype when I heard you introduce salad saiyan
ngl its often hard to take lightspeed sukuna seriously when the more rational explanation is that hes just aim-dodging instead of reacting to the attack. especially when he gets hit by sound based attacks in the next page
Ah, my anti-goku tehcnique
I havent use this since the heian era
"Hey look! A ton of food!" *Sprints in the opposite direction*
Well Gege said that Awakend Maki is Mach 3 soooo we kinda have to scale Sukuna lower (tho I do think get why Gege said Mach 3 since just Normal Maki catching a bullet was Mach 25)
Movement speed and reaction/fighting speed are different. Think Baseball and Baseball Bat.
Scale Sukuna lower? Why? Maki is nowhere close to even being an equal to weakened, exhausted Sukuna.
Gege said that he agreed with the interviewer saying that going from Mach 3 to Infinite is weird.
As in, yes, it happened. Yes, he knows it's wonky. And that he just thought Mach sounded cool.
The interview was in response to events right after Sakurajima colony, where Kenjaku reacts to the gravity of a black hole.
Master Roshi, done, there's the end of the gauntlet.
bro is not making it past master roshi 😭💀🙏
Kid goku was over lightspeed as he casually dodged lasers
A much cooler idea than just doing a powerscale vs video
👍
"P-please jackie chun.... i need this.... youre kinds too strong...."
"Jackie chun im watching your stream, why you trying not to laugh bruh thats disrespectful as shit"
“Ah yes my nuh uh technique I haven’t used this since the Heian era”
My guess is not very far.
Nobody would skip the Glazing Section, because that's the whole point of this character!
I was wondering if you make a similar video to this but more like “what if sukuna was born in the dragon ball world” so his personality/ iq/ talent in the dragon ball world. What ki abilities would he use and how would he go about becoming as strong as possible. I think it would be really interesting
You literally have to take away ki, make everyone limbless, deaf and blind (including og db as roshi can one tap the moon and kid goku is a gag character) and be new born babies for sukuna to even be able to do anything to anyone
bro must've forgot about goku and broly fighting in lava....
Bro would get packed up by yamcha
If he was able to train like Krillin, Tien, etc, he could become very powerful. Given he has resources like Guru unlocking his potential, the dragon balls, the hyperbolic time chamber etc, I'm confident he could eventually become a Frieza level threat
Knowing sukuna he might just wish on the dragon balls to be as strong as a saiyan
@@lebrondavis1420 raditz was a saiyan too lol
@@Pinicle_of_evolution raditz? Really? Be honest with yourself if you were sukuna who would you choose to try to take over goku or raditz?
@@lebrondavis1420 shenron might pull a silly if sukuna just wishes for the body of a saiyan
@@Pinicle_of_evolution shenron would be the ultimate troll for that lmao but seriously sukuna would definitely be banking on someone eating his fingers if not that doesn’t work out shenron is his next option
Sukuna: "hey Gege, I hear everyone loves Cell..."
The true domain expansion is killing beloved characters.
This video was WAY longer than I expected...
and a lot of it was glazing ngl
King vegeta waves his hand and destroys 3 planets. Sukana wakes up in overworld
Haven’t watched the complete video yet but I like how you started saying that he will make it even farther than Gojo. We are talking a nerfed down Sukuna here, obviously weaker than Gojo and one could argue, more easily scalable to Dragon Ball because his powers are more “fighting” like.
But he is still a character from another series, so there are other factors to consider than just brute strength, so I’m curious to see how you arrived at that conclusion.
Now what would be interesting is how Toji would fare. Since you have likened cursed energy to ki before (just so comparisons could be made), he would be the equivalent of a fighter displaying ki enhanced prowess without actually emitting ki, kind of like the androids. Without any bells and whistles, he would probably make it up until the Saiyan saga at most, but it would still be interesting to see.
Unless he “trains” in Dragon Ball, which is something I could see Toji doing.
"World Sla-"
"KIKOHOOOO"
"(Is fucking dead)"
"DODON RAY!"
The one person body he can't snatch his Majin Buu. As soon as he put his finger inside of him he's just going to be in trapped in his body. Absorbing all his knowledge and techniques. He's going to act like him but he's definitely not going to be him.
I have not seen anyone glaze a character as much as you😭
Sukuna wouldn’t even be able to perceive Piccolo in early Dragon Ball, he blew up the moon within seconds. Sukunas speed is no where to near that.
for the twenty second world tournament ap=durabilty how would sukana injure moon level characters??
3:15 i’m 105% sure go/jo meant suckuna was holding back in the aspect of using his abilities
"Ah yes, my anti universal destruction techniqye, i havent used it since the heian era"
4:29 to be fair i think the characters are mostly reacting to the cursed energy spark rather than pure lightning itself, but you could argue those sparks dont apply to kashimo’s basic electric attack, since it isn’t a technique activation itself
The kid goku downplay is crazy lol. Kid goku dodged lasers,lightnings and light speed attacks (before the dkp arc) and kid goku is multi-solar system level and we can debate that
fun fact: frieza does a world cutting slash against goku and literally splits namek in half just to flex on him.
also sukuna is unironically chiaotzu level
Doesn‘t he get cooked by Nappa/Vegeta? Like, Nappa speedran Shibuya and Vegeta point and clicked a planet out of existence
A Dragonball characters defense is all reliant on their ki. When Goku blocked trunks sword attacks with his finger he concentrated his ki to guard that part of his body. Same would apply to heat. They can withstand incredibly hot temperatures but they need to use there ki to do it. If their guard is down they are more susceptible to attacks.
"How far can he go?" ep 1 of og db
Could totally see Sukuna weaving hand signs for a straight hour and Frieza letting him just like how Goku got away with the Spirit bomb.
The glazing is crazy here. Technically he wouldn’t make it past the Saiyan arc
In Cell Saga, Gohan uses a ki blast to cook meat and accidentally overcooks it. Ki blasts are energy blasts and do give off heat. You grossly over estimate how much these fire attacks would actually damage dbz characters.
Yo so if you actually payed attention to the video at all he said that he'd only use manga material and surprise that is filler in the anime - also early showings in DBZ literally had goku with barely any heat resistance so he actually didint overestimate the effects of sukunas fire
Any chance we could have a video that shows dragon ball z human fighters having domain expansions and how they would look like?
Vegeta:Domain expansion planet Vegeta
Makes it that he gains a extra life for every Saiyan that existed back then
It turns to a random area of planet Vegeta
Gohan :Domain expansion unleash the beast
Forces the user and opponent to be peaceful and talk things out if the opponent does a violent action Gohan gets a power boost
Frieza:Domain expansion hail to the emperor
It decreases a opponent pain tolerance with them being unable to die
Yup Frieza has a domain that theoretically helps the opponent but it actually a benefit for him
Buu domain expansion:candy land
Just makes a domain of a candy area that it no fighting benefit
@@gameuniverse5973 Damn those are well thought out, good job
3:48 "im going to place him at large city level."
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he could use a binding vow to destroy a much larger area too.
Sakuna wouldn't make it past beginning of original dragon ball Goku.
It’s crazy you can tell that majority of newer anime watchers more then likely didn’t watch DB growing up by these comments
Me personally, he stops the frieza Saga because your frieza get pissed off he’ll blow up the planet and he’s booked for stronger and faster than him
Definitely stops BEFORE Frieza, how can he beat even RADITZ if he can blow up an entire planet at will? Not only that he would die almost instantly if he went up against Nappa who can destroy an entire city by moving his fingers.
Y’all forget how strong these DBZ characters really are, he wouldn’t even be able to fight King Vegeta who destroys 3 planets by just moving his hand 😂 Sukuna definitely only surviving till King Piccolo or Raditz that’s it. Frieza arc is literally over kill.
Don’t even think that these guys would get talked into eating any finger either if anyone of these guys I named see you as a weakling they will kill you without hesitation.
@@Shyrunnner even saibaman give sukuna for money, and cui destroy sukuna
@@mugiwaraluffy6791 you’re right people are over glazing JJk.
@@Shyrunnner people who compare jjk and dragon ball should let they see OG dragon ball first, tien,piccolo and goku already stronger than master.Roshi in last arc in OG dragon ball, and master roshi can destroy the moon ,that mean goku,tien,piccolo already above moon level that point
@@DD2Tacc bro even demon king piccolo could destroy cities with his finger, and he was beat easily by kid goku
10:20 the heat resistance argument is out the window seeing as a super sayin trunks was able to not only tank but completely neutralize a supernova hot enough to destroy a planet on impact
Does he even make it past demon king picolo or picolo jr?
They easily fodderize people like roshi who can blow up the moon
7:31 i think the “gamble” he means was whether ripping off yuji’s finger would break the vow he made with him, not necessarily if megumi could survive or not
my goat could you do mob vs the dragon ball gauntlet, I love mob but there are so few videos on him, and I think he'll have some interesting interactions
Get cooked in db if you think the high biggest feat was city level gets cooked in z if you think it was planet level gets cooked at end of buu saga id you think it was universal
@@gameuniverse5973 eh
you know its a tough sell when the contender has to be at peak before the first fight
OG Dragon Ball is taking him out The devil might beam instantly kills anyone who has the smallest traces of evil in their body the moment sukuna gets hit by this he will fall over dead
did you even watch the video?
Bro is THE Sukuna meatrider.
Goku dodged Tiens Solar Flare in the manga and the anime in the 22nd tenkaichi tournament
Solar flare is a light based attack
i faintly heard the ultra necrozma theme it gave a rush of memories from playing gen 7 as a kid 14:00
SAME
Interesting video, but I do have some things to say (no offense).
1. There is a higher end scaling for Gojo's combat speed through his teleportation. Base off the original japanese text from JJK which is (瞬間移動/Shunkan Utsuri dō) it translates to "instantaneous teleportation" (according to Google translate), and Gojo is able to use it in close quarter combat and the fact that Sukuna was still able to keep up with him saids a lot about his speed.
2. There are three ways to scale Sukuna's strength and power.
(Low-end scaling)
In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone", and when he left and met up with Kenjaku he effortlessly created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the highest calculations for this feat puts it around island level. Sukuna not only scales to this but above it since he is stronger than Gojo who performed this feat.
(Mid-end scaling)
The durability/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane.
Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling.
(Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI)
Small town level
4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level.
Town level
2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level.
Large town level
4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level.
Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly dodged it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters.
Example 2: Hanami is comparable to Jogo in strength so she would be around small-city level and Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around darf star levels of AP and Hanami took five of them which by adding up be around small-star level and she was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all, and Sukuna is stronger than Gojo.
(High-end scaling)
In the "JJK S1 animation guide" stated that in the manga infinite void was depicted as a blank void with an expanding swath of the universe and the director Sunghoo Park wanted it to look more godly so he consulted Gege Akutami about it and he gave him some ideas which resulted in the final product, if the constructs of a domain scale to the one who cast them then this proves that both Gojo and Sukuna are universal.
An example of this being the case would be in chapter 234 when Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum output of their techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash.
I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
Wow... just wow...
I don't know about this Gojo and Sukuna being universal, but great analysis
I'm all for Sukuna and Gojo being universal, to be honest
@@deirdre9849 they would fall on the DB problem "multiversal, but he was knocked out by a tree" or the jjba problem "he can punch at the speed of light, can punch strong enough to break diamond and can stop time, therefore his geral speed is superior than light speed, all of the punches can break Diamond and time stop is completely invincible, therefore he is planetary level"
I am exagerating common arguments that are used
@@SeiVinRen it’s really hard to scale certain verses and characters tbh
@@rinnerebirth1171 indeed, I guess worst than that it's scaling comic characters
you understand the pain of not being able to find that damn dokkan dodge sfx
Oh boy this should be a fun time.
Nerdy explanation again: Domain Expansion attacks aren’t just regular attacks that can be blocked or tanked. The cleave and dismantle attacks don’t actually travel through space to reach the target, they simply manifest directly on the body and inflict damage instantly. This is why they’re considered "sure-hit." But Sukuna gets blasted easily regardless.
I mentioned this because at the timestamp 13:32 it would make the attacks even stronger, but the Domain itself causes attacks to appear directly on you. This is explained during the Dagon Domain fight on C14 S2
Not letting him have ten shadows was a huge nerf 😭 even tho you’re being accurate, given the fact this is a db gauntlet one of the strongest anime verses, I would have given him anything at his disposal 😅. Even hypothetically.
I'd give him the Saiyan brain-cancer ray gun and even then I wouldn't have high hopes
Bro got ftl for a reason which isnt correct and ignores all speed feats db characters displayed in db. He got more than he should
@@Haispawnerjokes on you dbs goku doesn’t have a brain
Tbh, the Skuna body stealing is a good idea. Ginuy stole Goku's body but had no idea how to actually use his powers....making Ginyu's power level drop to about 23k. So unless we assume Skuna can actually use others' powers, Skuna would hard stop at the base non powered up version of whoevers body he steals. Considering Goku unpowered up was almost killed by a weak ki blast condensed into a lazor...it just wouldn't help Skuna much.
True, and remember than Ginyu was SKILLED in his craft, he had done body stealing god-knows how many times, and has also used KI a LOT. But, sukuna? CUrsed energy is nothing like KI!a nd sukuna's body-stealing technique is nowhere near as easy to do as Ginyu's.
Can you do this with the mha vers instead of dbz
We can never discount the possibility of him just going super saiyan after seeing it done. He also became saiyan after seeing one
2 videos in one day less goo
PLEASE do JJK Vs demon slayer.🙏 people in my editing community are saying demon slayer is faster than jjk by a lot. And apparently, according to them, Tanjiro is past Mach 35K????
Cell vs maho is gonna be crazy also sukuna ain’t getting pass the androids or cell imo he dont got Infinity like gojo so he gon be eating allat attack
and he’s getting jumped by 17&18 with perfect teamwork like better and stronger yuji and todo
Cell no diffs
@@SuperiorIronMan0Nah cell going to do a Vegeta and make him permanent to all his moves out of fun like sukuna said maho could get immune to getting slashed in general
@@gameuniverse5973 Perfect Cell can literally destroy the universe. Mahoraga gets vaporized like what sukuna did with Malevolent shrine and fuga. Those two attacks are below moon level much less universal. Sukuna reasonably stops at the 21st world tournament with roshi and Goku.
@@gameuniverse5973ah hell naw. Cell negs
@@Aeternus75 first it was a joke and second cell is stupid enough he hold back just throwing weak ki blasts and punches to see how much maho can adept
“That boy Chiaotzu can blow up the moon huh? I better keep my ass in Jujutsu Kaisen OR I’M FINISHED‼️”