Crime Beat: Against All Odds | S4 E5
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- A German tourist travels across the world with his family to witness the splendour of the Canadian Rockies. Without warning, a chance encounter and a single bullet interrupts their trip and changes their lives forever.
Follow along to learn how the offender's path intersects with this family as they continue to fight against all odds.
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I feel this story the victim wasn’t protected but the perpetrator was. I don’t care how young he is he almost killed this poor man.
He got a slap on the wrist for destroying the life of a healthy and active man.
I don't care if he was drinking,doing drugs,being young or being native(He should've been in jail for a VERY long time).
He was on his way to kill someone one way or another
Just the wrong person
He should be locked up for life
The other person's should of also gotten jail time
The poor family this happened to, my heart goes out to them
Totally agree. I'm Canadian and am embarrassed at how our justice system behaved in this case.
Hats off to this wonderful family. They've behaved with unbelievable grace and have seemed to reconcile something a very few could have, I think.
Agree
Looks like comments from the US where they lock children up for life. Listen to what the detective says about punishment of youths. Canadá is similar to the UK in its treatment of youth crime. The brain is not fully developed until at least the age of 21.
This country of mine is way too lenient, makes me sick. He should have appropriate charges. Disgusting
Good for Trudeau no wonder he isn't helping these pathetic natives they deserve there dirty drinking water
Totally agree….😠
Prevention is needed.
This glorification of violence in popular media and lack of real opportunities looms large for many.
It’s like the economic conditions of the Eighties for similar reasons. The wealthy want to divest themselves of responsibility and then cry foul about lenience.
Sounds like you’re wanting to play into the For Profit prisons camp narrative.
Lenient government laws with drugs use, and this are the consequences with the insecurity of the citizens and foreigners.
That was a very heartbreaking episode to see how someone and his family loved our country enough to come back to visit only to lose his way of life.I think I speak on behalf of all Canadians when I say I'm so sorry for what happened to you when you came to our country to visit. We aren't like other countries that shoot and kill people everyday, we value life and I hope you can continue coming back to enjoy Canada cause we have a beautiful country, and to the offender regardless of your age and history, you should be punished for the irreversible wrong you caused or you will grow up not owning up to the consequences of your actions.
Thanks for this comment I am also from Canada and this is horrific act to innocent people.
I really do hope those kids are able to be rehabilitated and grow up to be happy, sober people. We all deserve that chance. His sentence seems light. But I won't judge that because I do not work in the field of law or law enforcement. So I don't think I could lay down any reasonable arguments either way. I will have to trust in our legal system.
What I worry more about is what this kid is going to do with his time on parole? Will he be protected from this kind of lifestyle? Or was he just thrown back into the bad fish pond? It's not fair. If he goes directly back to the troubled place he was in before, that would be hard to escape from when you're so young and feeling hopeless and small. I hope all those kids are ok 4 years later now.
This is terrible, why he had to shoot. He left a very innocent loving man with disabilities. Never mind he will still have to face God. I am very sorry for this man his family. Such nice people
Sadly in my country,USA, I wouldn’t be surprised of such a thing eventhough it would be rare,but I love you Canadians- I have always felt safer in Canada + my experience with Canadians has always been stellar.
I have a hard time watching crime cases in Canada because of the lax sentencing ):
Crime beat probably isn’t for you then? Lol
Believe me most Canadians aren’t happy with our joke of a system either!!
The system is broken…no one is held accountable for their actions. They are not for the victims
I can’t stand the canadian justice system 😠
what justice?
The car full of criminals should have been held responsible
As a Canadian im embarrassed of what so low life drug induced teen did to you father and family. I have met many people over the years camping from European country’s who absolutely love Canada. Our justice system here is absolutely embarrassing and needs to be completely over hauled. Some of our First Nations people need to stop playing the victim card on there up bringing to get them out of paying for tragic crimes they commit and that also goes for all Canadian as well. We seem to have a HUG A THUG PROGRAM here were it’s never some one’s fault or it’s there up bringing to blame. I hope your father keeps recovering and still sees our country for the beauty he seen when he first came here.
Dont feel bad. Lenient sentences are an everyday thing in the European Union. Sometimes its more about the killers rights compared to the victim's.
Very true. Same here in the UK.@@katerinagiannioudi401
Being drunk and stoned should never be excuse. He made conscious decision and therefore should face consequences. Sentence was wrong on all levels and also, what happened to responsibility and accountability?
The shooter is from a protected class in Canada. He was already known to police despite his youth, however the ‘extenuating circumstances’ of his protected class designation means that he will never be held accountable. And he WILL go on to reoffend, he has learned nothing from this
@@wyzasukitan
Are you referring to native/indigenous folks with special status?
@@ivannovotny4552 I would think so….🤔
The Canadian justice system has always been a joke.
This victim will never get his life back.
The offender gets a slap on the wrist.
The payout from the
Aberta govt. was an insult. All the medical & rehab bills by the victim should have been paid for Alberta, not to mention his 4 years of lost income.
@@wyzasukitan Yeah I'm pretty sure that class is living it up and having the time of their lives...
I'm so happy he survived. What an amazing family. They have every right be bitter and vengeful but instead they're looking to the future. I'm sincerely in admiration of these humans. I'm glad he was capable of travelling back to Canada. ❤️👏 God bless them.
Such a tragic and totally unnecessary act. Thank God the father survived.
As a Canadian, our justice system infuriates me sometimes. I can get wanting to protect a minor's identity when it comes to petty crimes or something like that but shooting a man in the forehead for no reason? Give me a break, ridiculous.
The teen doesn't deserve having his identity protected and any problems he would have down the line for being know for what he did is all his problem and of his own doing.
And i get the fact the they didn't think they could get a conviction of attempted murder but being charged with "discharging a firearm in a motor vehicle"? Big whoop. He shot the man in the damn forehead, i don't care how high he was or how fast they were driving, shooting someone in the forehead clearly shows only one intent. Smh
Then making excuses for the teen by saying he grew up in a troubled environment and being mentally undeveloped was just infuriating me even more.
This just shows you that our justice system is an absolute joke. Feel sorry for the family.
Throw them all in prison, you’re so called old enough to drive, drink, and do drugs and try to kill someone. This is disgusting, wish I’d never watched this program. Come to Canada, you can do whatever you want.
The moment you decide to drink and do drugs you are responsible for your actions.....
No, you definitely are not! We just saw that in this episode. Sixteen years old, 21 months waiting for trial, public defender, absolutely NO accountability!
An innocent victim with a ruined life. Responsibility, my foot!
A sad commentary on the Canadian legal system which certainly is not a justice system!
Rant over.
What a WONDERFUL, GOOD HEARTED and LOVING FAMILY. May God bless you and give you strength to keep going. I'm so SORRY for what happened to you but you did come a long way.and that's GREAT. Canada LOVES you!
$100 000. What a joke
We need stronger laws... that kid should have got atleast 10 years
that kid should be made to meet this man face to face and apologize. Tragic fate. Where are those meth heads today? Leading productive lives? I bet not. And the compensation? Prosecutor was lame.
Stole the words out of my mouth
Very true.
We are far too soft on crime in this country. What an absolute embarrassment
what i found so interesting was them saying he was a boy who's life they didn't want to destroy and didn't have grounds for murder or manslaughter but then goes on to say mistaken identity and they thought there were shooting someone else?
@@candysmith7611 Yes, it seems like it was alright for the kid to destroy someone else's life, but his is sacred for some dumb reason!
We definitely need stronger laws in this country. Especially the 25 yrs as a life sentence. This young offender should have stayed longer and received counselling and education. Then he should have spent time talking to people who were affected by violence. Giving him a slap on the wrist probably did nothing for him.
I'm glad the family came back and had a positive visit. We do have a beautiful country. Just needs a bit of work.
Its like they have more pity for the guy who shot the victim the accused should of been put away for 20 yrs I don't really care if he was only 16 . I wish the best for Hoarse and his family I hope he recovers 100%
i thought the same thing actually.....poor boy....im sorry, this guy almost killed someone and changed his and his family s lives forever!!! jail would have been appropriate.....and no, the time he already served is not enough..... what message do you send this person? if you believe that by hiding his name you protect him in case he becomes a citizen with good values.....think again!!! not going to happen......i strongly believe that he will die from his habits or, be involved in other crimes in the future...no doubt in my mind!!!
Oh they were pretty sober and smart enough to bury the gun…as for the young offenders act, that should be gone. Everyone involved their faces should be put out there . My opinion and I have no sympathy for murderers
The prosecutors in my son’s murder trial did nothing at the trial of the killer but stab my son in the back as well. It was a miscarriage of Justice and the murderer blamed my son whose voice was silenced by the brutality of the murder. I don’t care what age they are, anyone who takes a life need to be accountable and face the consequences. The laws need to change for the victims not be for the murderers.
Tragic story, glad the gentleman survived .... this family is so decent I hope they find some peace in their lives
What an Amazing family.The dad is a true Cowboy,he may get bucked but he gets right back on the horse.His family,specially his son,are so inspiring,pushing him to get better.If there is a GoFundMe for this man,I will definitely throw money towards his rehab in a heartbeat.
My heart goes out to these families... devastating and heartbreaking to say the least... your stories are shared and I along with others are truly heartbroken over all of these tragedies may you find peace and healing throughout your lifetime 🙏🕊
Poor man was very sad watching this , this man was enjoying his day with his family 😢
Thank goodness my taxes go to pay INCOMPETENT prosecutors! :) money well spent!!
Beautiful son , this man has the best thing any man can have as a father, the courageous father like son.
God bless this family.
I have so much I'd like to say about the leagal systems, specially regarding youth crimes. But enough have been said by many people in this column so I'll leave it as that .
Hope the recovery process and the rest of this family life is as gentle and filled with blessing.
He only received $100000? From the victims fund. That's ridiculous.
I don't fear harsh penalties against crime, because I never plan to commit one. As a youth, thanks to my upbringing through family, school, church, I feared the consequences of committing a crime. If there was ever a case that should wake up our politicians and lawmakers, it's this one.
No one is held accountable for their shit in this country! Thats why this shit keeps happening!!! Including politicians who have no idea vwhats happening in the real world!!!!
If it was one of their kids the sentence would be different
This man is extraordinary!!!
Your family's positivity is motivating and real
Such a shame, a man who loves Canada and this is what happens to him, Canada needs to give him some more moula, it's just the right thing to do. He has such an admirable spirit, no quit in that guy.
What a terrible situation!
Am I the only person who has fallen in love with this lovely family. At the same time am I the only one who is incredibly angry at the fools who would do this to this wonderful family. He just wanted to show his family what he saw and fell in love with and some idiot had to ruin everything....for what?
Ya you're the only one. Pfft
Such a sad story,thanks God he is alive.
If he can handle a gun then he’s old enough to go to jail for LIFE!!! Disgusting he only got a slap on the hand!! Gross!!!!
Apart from everything else. I want to rate and commend his English. So many countries speak English and for us (England) we rarely pick up another language. Kudos to him.
I have been through tramatic stuff during my childhood does not give me the right to shoot anyone!!! I dont care who you are and what you have been through!!! Lets hold the so called adults in the vehicle responsible as well as the shooter!!!!
I can understand the difficult life this young man endured, but the 21 months + 15 months probation he was given is not Justice.
wow, I am at a loss for words, Horst, an amazing man, and his family as well. my heart was so sad to hear what happened to you all, I truly hope the young offenders make every effort to change the path they were on, and to make better choices, the consequences of your actions , always have an effect, whether good or bad.
Hats off to the great medical teams that helped this visitor.
Canada is way too soft on crime. I don't care how young this potential serial killer is, there should be harder consequences for his actions now, to act as a deterrent before his crimes worsen. Whoever plied this kid with alcohol should also be held accountable. IMHO
You are an amazing family. Good for you all. May all the blessings of the universe land on you all from now on!
I live in Calgary so seeing all these stories I have heard of over the years is nice to see them broken down , sorry this family had to endure this ,
Ignorance to the law shouldn't be used as an excuse whether you grew up in a dysfunctional family. This young man shouldn't be allowed to have a normal life again as he ruins someone else's. And that is why I hate the most this defence lawyers, I wonder how they could defend someone who is obviously guilty as charged. Anyway, Kuddos to Mr Horst, you are an unbelievable individual, GOD be with you 😊
O , man this is a hard to see and listen I am very sorry 😢 for this tragedy it happened for all of u i am glad your father getting better l wish the best to your dad and family god’s bless all of you, thanks for sharing this story
The shooter is from a protected class in Canada. He was already known to police despite his youth, however the ‘extenuating circumstances’ of his protected class designation means that he will never be held accountable. And he WILL go on to reoffend, he has learned nothing from this.
And you’ve arrived at these strong conclusions because you know him personally??…
@@skye9423 no its racism as the youth is indigenous and this is the "protected class" lol
@@skye9423I’d say he pretty well summed it up. It’s racist to use your ethnics for special rights and benefits
"We don't report the youth offender's name because it might destroy their life". WTF? They destroyed a family's life but hey, victims aren't more important than the criminal right? This country's justice system is a joke. #HugAThug
Some folk shouldn’t have children if they are not going to to guide them in society we all know wrong a right but drugs a drink make humans some humans behave badly
I can’t even….
41 mil on youth restorative Justice is ridiculous when one man’s livelihood is destroyed
Shameful
Great coverage
Whoa. What a horrible thing to happen to this man. Imagine coming to Canada to horseback ride, visit movie sets and rekindle memories of your youth and you get shot with a 22 in the back of the head. The world is just not fair sometimes.
What a strong and positive family.
Horst, you are an amazing man!! All the very very best from Stevie in Scotland!! 👏🏻👏🏻❤️
What an inspirational family. I am so sorry this happened to them. As for Balfour Der, it's not bad luck for the victim. Too bad we didn't have Trudeaus new gun laws back then 🙄
Canadian justice system is a joke. You have to pray to not be a victim in this country. What a joke! The prosecutor said they were young and the court didn't want to ruin their future… Extremely happy that he survived.
So sorry this happened to this family. Suppose to visit an otherwise peaceful country/province on vacation and this horror happens.
Sadly,I'll never visite this country...My same thoughts for America..
That's no excuse
The false sympathy (and leniency) exercised by our 'justice system’ - especially to this protected class (the natives) - is sickening.
Notwithstanding, what a resilient and positive outlook this family has!
He needs to get lots more money
Our justice system is abysmal especially for youth. I was once 16, got plenty drunk and tried drugs and NEVER once would I have thought it funny or fun to shoot a gun at someone’s car. How the hell is that not attempted murder?!
The idiot: "Exposing their name would destroy their lives"!
So, it's no problem if they destroy other people's lives?
There are thousands of criminal youth in the US with their names known. What has happened to their lives?
Im always surprised at how lenient their justice system is in Canada. Why was this not classed as an attempted murder as he shot at the whole family in that car and didn't stop to find out if they were dead or alive. That poor man has in my mind lost his life as he knew it, and doesn't even realise why. What has that little POS shooter been doing? making more customised guns perhaps. Potential school shooter, maybe. He should have been made to pay for all the medical bills and care for life to the man he shot, and charged with possession of a firearm 😫 This case is disgusting and very unjust, as your whole system is in Canada. He would have got 10 to life in UK🤬
What an amazing family 🖤 the father is so strong and their son is so positive. Im glad they werent afraid to cone back to Canada. Many Canadians are terribly sorry this happened in our country 😪
Prosecution had hurdles? Everything is a hurdle for punishing criminals in Canada
I’ll
Tell ya what is tragic, we all
Know why this attempted murderer got away with it. That’s all
I have to say. Disgusting
In the voice of great Canadian David Suzuki: “The species seen here is endemic across Canada and especially rural Alberta. Its parasitic lifestyle reeks havoc on the social fabrics of its local ecosystems. These animals are constantly in search of unwilling audiences to whom they can spout their hateful rhetoric. They often propagate in large herds on Internet forums and in YouRube comment sections. I present the increasingly rare, Red Neck Racist.”
🤡
If you're going to be racist, don't bother beating around the brush. What a dense comment.
Goddamn engines
@@ASHXEIGHracist is telling the truth now. Sounds like you live every day in it. But of course you’re special.
What a beautiful family. Horst is an amazing example of courage and determination.
I love the way Canadian law treats minors. The child who did the shooting sounds like he needed a lot of compassion and understanding. Well done Canada!
Dont go for attempted murder, it may damage his career chances.What a sick joke
Nancy Hicks always sounds like she's reading a story to her kindergarten class! 🙄
Then don’t listen to it.
@@emijacqueline
What are you the comment police?
Maybe because a lot of foreign nationals watch this show as well… many appreciate annunciation and soft spoken voices to listen to and understand.
@@joannahampton5979 yes I am and I’m putting you under citizens arrest for being annoying.
I don’t want to spoil this for anyone but wow just wow. That family has so much strength and resilience! True north strong and free🇨🇦
Is as bad as UK and New Zealand on consequences for wrong doing!
You are an incredibly inspiration man Horst 🎉
Yea. Name excuses for the teen
Watching Crime Beat is the highlight of my week.
why would the German doctors say canada has more experience with gunshot wounds? we literally have 600 a year nation wide 80% of them suicides. and even then calgary is far from a hot zone. Ontario TO edmonton sask are the cities gun crime
The area that this happened in the Stoney Nakoda First Nations reserve area and hearing that a lot of alcohol and crystal meth was involved the assumption can be drawn that the perpetrator and the other 3 people in the red car were probably young First Nations kids, so, not only were they protected by their ages, but also by the fact that they were natives. Lenience in this case would have been a given, and being part First Nations (Haida) myself, I have seen it happen far too often, but this crime SHOULD have been A) prosecuted as an adult case, B) charged as Attempted Murder, Assault Causing, Assault with a Deadly Weapon, and Assault using a vehicle in the act. The other 3 should have at the LEAST received a minimum sentence of 12-24 months in youth custody and3-5 years of mandatory probation. Of course, this is I.M.H.O. and NOT the letter of the Youth Offenders Act, and OF COURSE, the lawyer who defended them (and almost EVERY perpetrator of any and all heinous and or gang related/organized crime related/high profile, high visuality crimes in Calgary and environs was Balfour Der)
What??? Why do they all giving this excuses😮😮😮😮😮 yucks law...i hope the German tourist will reopen the case....
What an utter joke this is! First of all, their identity should definitely be made public as they should feel the full consequences of their actions! No leniency for almost taking a life and permanently damaging the same! 21 months is laughable!!!
Your so called 'crown' (there is no such thing by the way) is who exactly???
What a complete joke of a justice system you have, just like the UK!
Wish it we're that simple, but he's more than likely off'to work for Highways in Devon within a month....& now I'm snubbed he's got another monkey stooge to equip with hammer & long brass screw for roofing tile...x
OMG what a travesty Law can be , whatever Country🤮 Never mind what damage he did to the Father, he could have caused the death of the entire Family but hes young and had a shit upbringing on booze and drugs. so No Real consequences. this Episode Really made me think👹
Sorry about this crime Mr. Stewin this isn't what Canada is about.please come and visit us again sorry, hope your health keeps improving.drug use and bad family should never be excuse for criminal behavior.God Bless you Horst and family enjoy each day.
I watch a lot of these programmes and I am horrified by the leniency of the sentences. All the excuses made for the perpetrators by the prosecution are simply unbelievable!!!!!!! They almost killed an innocent man. Unbelievable. I am switching off before I hear the sentences.
I have a 16 year old son. He knows right from wrong and isn't on his own long enough to get drunk or do meth. To be honest, I can't even envision it.
Someone, I assume, his parents, failed this young man. It doesn't excuse what he did, but parents need to raise better young people. Otherwise, innocent people like this lovely German family, suffer.
Purposely aiming and firing the gun at somebody after your friend tells you 'he doesnt like the owner of the vehicle', not even sure if its the actual person he doesn't like is crazy and murderous. And the excuse that the teen's mentally underdeveloped (????) and family troubles at home is a ticket to more crimes in d future if canadian laws are sooo lenient. Should've been longer jail time for all of them to learn their lessons. Relieved and thankful that the victim survived and even came back to visit Canada again. They are all good people with forgiving hearts. God bless the family.
Let me get this straight..... Some idiots kids, decide to shot and mess up somebody's life for no reason at all, and the walk free. Great job Western Civilization Justice Law. What happened to " If you commit a grown up crime, you should do the time"
I just saw crimebeat the story about against All odds. I'm a Canadian and I am absolutely gobsmacked with what this prosecutor was saying is he stupid what is somebody get to him n threats his family? Unbelievable!!!! The guy was 17 n looked younger??????? There r child killers did this idiot prosecuted know this fact,! This should do exactly what he was doing but all seem to be about this poor little kid absolutely disgusting! So because the guy didn't die it wasn't attempted murder! Well I'm a Canadian and I am so embarrassed and disappointed somebody gets caught with some drugs on him and they get a bigger reaction that this did. And the copper or detective was so happy didn't have to engage in gunfight because this was only a child small in stature🤦
This poor man was travelling innocently with his God bless there's some little piece of crap and his buddies decided to kill this man. Mistaken identity or not
It was attempted murder.
Shame on our Justice system! We'll wait til this child as the police called him... Does the same either influenced by someone or on his own someday!
Poor tourists😢 while that kid he is enjoying his life after 15 months only...because canadian law protect their killers 😂😂😂
Yeah, that'll teach him! 21 months and a lot of sympathy for attempted murder, oops, no, for the "wrong hit". Disgusting.
How much time in jail did both his parents get? After all, they are responsible for their son. Drugs and booze is no excuse. Age is no excuse; his parents should have had him under control if he was that dumb. I feel bad for saying that but its true.
The grace & dignity of Horst's son are admirable. So glad he survived & has the drive he has. Horrible timing, fateful outcome 😞 One can only hope the kid learnt from it & that he has some interventions in place to keep him out of trouble.
I really don’t like this defence lawyer…he comes up way too often defending blatantly guilty and slimy people…he’s very slimy too.
All the more, if the killer had la ower mental capacity, should be kept away. Sadly, the killer seem to be the victim not the other way round. Shame on the justice system.
i watch quite a few crime shows and this is one touching story
This case isn't tragic. It's the Canadian Legal and Judicial system that is tragic, and moronically disfunctional.
IN America, because of right to bear arms, any Kook can appoint themselves the judge and jury of your fate, because they have a bad day.
I agree to put them in jail .dammit I am sick of the judicial system. If your out on the streets causing a shitstorm of illegal activities on a regular .drinking drugs on top of everything else. Your ass needs to go to jail. I don't give a shit anymore either how you grew up.....put these thugs in jail. Let them learn by going to jail. Not by excusing there actions .
What a remarkable man and family. He should have received way more in compensation in recognition of his life long disability.
What a tragic story. What are the odds that this happened. Once again, drugs created this horrible scene. Another said, this is not a typical scenario in Canada, and I agree, although it is happening more than it should.
I am very impressed at the determination the father has had and continues to have. So glad he is riding horses again! Hope his life continues to improve. 🇨🇦