its crazy that this man built a one-sided relationship w a woman he has NEVER talked to, gave her a nickname?? told her everything about himself and what he did in the past week!! after all she said was "sorry, who are you?"
YES EXACTLY the one-sidedness of it all is so insane to me. He doesn't KNOW HER, he's never fkn TALKED TO HER yet he's spamming her with all this shit as if they've been best buddies for years. I'd be SOOO creeped out if a total stranger started talking to me like this!! Plus in the context of dating, a person who goes out of their way to hunt down strangers on social media and send them voice memos doesn't seem like the kinda person I wanna get involved with. It just reeks of desperation and trying way too hard.
There is a line, actually, because it's called "respect" and it's very easy to not cross it. If you were rejected for X, going out of your way to do X in another context to the same person is creepy. If you're rejected for X and you stop doing X to that person, that's effort.
@@LunaWitcherArt It's not hard to just not do something, actually. So it's not effort. Like she said - not a line, a valley. You have to go out of your way to KEEP doing something. Her saying "line" meant that it's not THAT hard to not cross it.
@@violetheise4717 Right! Fine line as a term exists for things like experiencing love or hatred for the same person, bc they're both similar extremes in emotions that's hard to (inwardly) control. But cyberstalking women to use the same lines for years? That's not smth u go "oops teehee nudged over into this line"
The fact that this creep found that woman on Bumble is even worse, because their whole thing is "women message first". If you're not gonna respect that, get off Bumble.
@fernthegreenfairy5246 from what I understand, if two women match on bumble, either one of them can message first (and same goes for men messaging men). 😊
@@lex-zv9rqI love cats but I get asthma with them around (other than the usual sneeze, cough, eye-puffing)… I would get if someone disliked them (hate is too strong of a word, poor animals haven’t done anything) if they need to go to the hospital after staying in a room with one (I still love them because I love all pets, but I understand the dislike)
@@lex-zv9rq it's easy to say for ppl who are allergic but ofc it's not that deep. I'm allergic to fur and I instinctively feel repulsed by anything with fur just thinking about how my skin and my whole respiratory system would feel. It's more like a phobia.
I absolutely do not believe that man is in therapy. That man recorded over seven minutes of monologue, including his tax returns and accents. That is psychotic.
It really sounds like sociopathy, which, if he actually goes to therapy, would explain the « level » of self-awareness and how to « seem » non-threatening and approchable;
@@vivianebrodeur6687 For a second I wondered if I come across like that. But... I dont enter random women or men's dms and do... _that_ Boundaries. He needs to learn *boundaries*
it could be autism, not knowing social ques, self awareness. autism and sociopathy are often conflated. i just don’t want to assume based on this weird ass interaction.
My friend dated a guy EXACTLY like this in middle school. Did karate and claimed he could catch a bullet in mid air, played the guitar, the works. She ended up needing a restraining order and he still dates women who look just like her and have her name.
Dear god, this reminds me of a high school "boyfriend" I had for a couple weeks. His name was Robert but he insisted people call him Steel(no one called him Steel). He would tell anybody who would listen that he was descended from ancient Egyptian priests and would write love letters to me in hieroglyphics. He brought a katana with him everywhere he went and claimed to have a blackbelt in karate, which came in handy since he was constantly stopping crime by beating up guys twice his size. It happened while he patrolled his neighborhood at night, that's why no one saw it happen, he swears! The whole time we "dated" was basically just me trying to avoid him until I finally worked up the courage to officially break up with him 😂
@@qazwsx014jsbd8 I was a really nerdy, shy teenager and the idea that this (actually pretty good looking) guy had a crush on me took me by surprise. I didn't know him very well before he asked me out but I decided to take a chance.
I've never IN MY LIFE heard a person who liked hearing themself talk as much as this guy does. Holy shit. It's wild that teen girls get shit for the "I'm so random and quirky" personality when people like this exist.
its especially wild since teen girls get shit for things that don’t matter but teen boys get away with so much that they grow into these types of people. i’m not trying to take responsibility away from this guy, because he’s clearly a grown man, but there was definitely a point during his childhood where someone could have stepped in and could have prevented this. the way he talks and is comparing his actions to famous romance movies, he THINKS he’s right, he thinks he has a chance with this girl. that’s ridiculous.
because people, espeically men, love shitting on teen girls. They’ll go on and on about whatever hobby or drink that teen girls typically like, but ignore when sports fan, primarily men, go apeshit about a stupid sport.
i read somewhere that if guys straight up hate cats and voice how much they hate them, it's a sign they will not respect your boundaries in a relationship. because a cat has a lot of boundaries unlike a dog.
I’ll never fully trust someone that actively hates cats. And it’s not cause “but they’re cute”, but because you need to understand them and be attentive with their boundaries to have a nice relationship with them, unlike dogs who are usually more loving whatever is your behavior. It can be a red flag really hating cats’ personalities.
He literally sounds like he's trying to hit certain "checks" off a list he got from one of those dating advice manosphere grifters. Mentioning a female best friend, name dropping a romantic movie, talking about singing in retirement homes as if to say he's, like, sweet or something, etc. Combine that with all the other red flags and I'd legitimately be scared. Poor Kelsey.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Referencing THE MOST stereotypical romance movie that women are typically into, mentioning the female friend he supposedly has, being a musician with just soooo many gigs and has a lot of money (all self-started of course), etc. She is also apparently just so unique and special she has to be made up by his mom (to sound like he is good to his mom, since women look for that too). It all sounds like he made himself up to be the main character of a y/n fanfiction.
Yeah this is what I was thinking the whole time too! Especially when he made a point of referencing Gilmore Girls when it was barely even tangentially related
even without the context of how he approached her, notice how in all of his voice memos he just talks about HIMSELF. Dude doesn’t even TRY to seem like he wants to get to know her better, the voice memos literally feel like I listened to a deranged person’s leaked video diaries 😭
my cat only has to use his paw, claws retracted 🥰 if he puts his paw on you a certain way that is your signal to LEAVE HIM ALONE! i will tell him as soon as his tail starts to wag when i'm petting "oh ok i see, you're getting stressed, i will just appreciate you from afar 🥰 edit - my youtube glitched out i swear i'm not losing my mind lmaooo. i was on cat youtube
It's also because he's trying to big himself up to make the situation become "You should want to get to know me because I'm great!" he also uses tactics to make the girl feel devalued like on one girl he said "it's ok that you think you're fatter in person which by the way sounds great to me" make the girl feel lesser so she feels lucky a guy would even approach her. Dude is a psycho.
exactly what i thought. to give him the benefit of the doubt for just a second, i guess his goal was to say a couple things about himself as an introduction, so she isn't put off by a complete stranger she knows nothing about. (which is ultimately useless, considering how he approached in the first place she's gonna be put off no matter what he says.) but even if that was true... mentioning his tax returns? how attractive he thought he was? that he has BIG FEET? TMI across the board, he just sounds concieted at best.
A red flag I’ve only recently noticed is when men vocalize their consideration of “just settling for other men.” My brother does this. They think they’re such a prize that all of womankind will balk at the idea of them being off-limits (not to mention, these kinds of men take lesbians as a personal insult and assume women feel the same way about gay men). It’s a threat.
It's a very similar red flag when a guy tells you that you're, "not like other girls." If they're comfortable dissing women just to give you a compliment it usually indicates that they don't really think all that highly of any woman, including you.
oh, youre a writer? that’s writing pieces of writing, right? haha, yeah, I do something similar called being an “author”, where I write instead of writing instead. so glad to have that similarity with you, let’s talk about it later!
@@wrightcember Don't forget "Oh that's cool you got that as a project. I'm making my way into the field. Well I'm looking to" Like when he's having that as a goal it's a career but if you do it's a cool little project. Even if you're more professionally accomplished.
his sense of humour seems like.. studied. like if you described joking banter to an alien and fed them some examples, this guy's personality would be the result. theyre technically jokes but with less than zero charm or actual humour. i know being unfunny is a drop in the bucket compared to essentially cyberstalking this woman, but i just cant get over how absolutely cringe inducing every sentence is lmao. oh my god he said hes in mississauga.. this man is so close to me wtf now i have to live in fear of him matching with my friends on apps and trailing them around the internet!!
As it turns out, he’s been sending this exact same message to dozens of women since 2016. Almost verbatim and sometimes actually verbatim. So your read is spot-on. He’s had 7+ years to memorize this incredible winning script.
i’m honestly so so happy that other women have come forward with their experiences… because if it was just the OP, the guy for sure would’ve come out with a video saying how it was all a “social experiment” or a skit/bit/etc and that everyone fell for it and how he’s obviously doing satire since he’s a “natural performer who loves to make people laugh”… and state “i even said to share this with your friends and laugh, clearly i’m self-aware” etc etc but with so many other women sharing similar experiences over multiple years, no way this is a bit. just a genuinely unhinged guy that needs to be removed from all social media/dating platforms asap. i didn’t even just cringe during this i felt legitimately nauseous
NOOO YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! That's absolutely the next move for guys like this if we don't call them out with receipts! So glad all the women in that thread had the same instinct to save and then bring up the memos. It's important to warn others about guys like this and make it as difficult as possible for them to try this shit again!
Yeah at first I felt a lot of pity for him like he must be really lonely to cling onto a parasocial relationship and pursue that. But then you realize it's just that he's so full of himself he thinks he's irresistible and this cannot go wrong. And only cling onto her because he thinks there's only one funny girl that can exist in the world and that's his sign from destiny they're made for each other.
Idk how a dude searching someone up who didn't even match with them in the first place, and then message them to be well intentioned, even from the jump.
All the updates on the twitter thread show that this is a very rehearsed tactic on his part, and additionally, that he's dangerous. He's trying *so* hard to come off non-threatening, a social klutz, and in on the joke of invading women's privacy. He presents himself as being like leading men in romantic comedies, as being like Gilmore Girls. His weird behaviour is like a meet-cute! You'll laugh about it one day! But this man has been doing this routine for a decade now, refining it further and further. He does it to barely legal women and underage girls. He negs them. He assaults them. He stalks them. He's an actual predator. Just packaged as being a little bit socially inept, in hopes of getting close enough to cause further harm.
tbh he kinda IS like the ML of romcoms, which is one of the reasons i absolutely cannot stand 99% of them. super creepy misogynistic behavior is actively rewarded in those goddamn flicks
Yo as an autistic person, I wish that guy wouldn't drag our classic flirting technique of being charmingly socially awkward into his weird harassement scheme. This feels like the e-boy trend at the start of tiktok. Where a lot of men were adopting a lot of aesthetics and traits/behaviors from "emo" culture to seem more emotionally open and vulnerable than they were to prey on women Creeps will turn everything into a way to decieve women into sex. It's exhausting.
This would be insanely creepy at a date, but finding someones personal social media account and sending them this is down right delusional. "I have good emotional intelligence." Are you sure. Are you sure? ARE YOU SURE???
As a voice actor and a cosplayer.... I've met a lot of guys like this and we NEED to call them out and spread their names cause I've never met one that didn't end up being a predator. I absolutely became nauseous listening to these voice memos.
oh absofuckinglutely, this is like, if you found out a podcaster had allegations against them and the voice memos were leaked, except the voice memos were leaked before he ever became famous
Hell, the first thing I thought when he started speaking was “creepy voice actor.” 😭 I don’t even do voice acting or know any VAs. There’s just something that’s immediately off-putting and I’m not sure what it is.
im also a voice actor/cosplayer, and there are so many people like this at conventions. don’t get me wrong, a lot of people there are really nice, but there definitely are those people
that is so wild to me. i got my share of creeps back when i was on dating sites as a "woman" but i s2g the weirdos have evolved since i transitioned 6 yrs ago. that never happened to me 😵💫
I dated a guy literally EXACTLY like this a couple years ago. They are literally the “nice guy’s finish last” type of guys. I was 20 and he was 30…. He actually told me that he usually goes for younger girls because they’re “more fun” and are interested in the same things he’s interested. I regret dating him so much, I was in a horrible, dark place mentally and completely ignored all the red flags . I’m glad I’m away from him now
this guy is definitely not just some cringe "theater kid" like people in the comments are saying. I knew a guy EXACTLY like this, he put on a mask of being clumsy, awkward, and constantly calling himself nice guy / down to earth. he even played guitar and lol.. he was constantly pushing my boundaries and trying to get in my pants even tho i said i wasnt interested. he turned out to be a sx offender and i dont talk to him anymore. the guy in the video has sent the same script to other women + pushing boundaries by tracking women down on their socials... very predatory, a lot like the guy i knew.
the way that he kept pointing out that he "just wants to be friends and nothing more" while simultaneously commenting on her "assets", and trying to appeal to all her likes and dislikes from her bio (the notebook reference, feeding animals in park, disliking joykillers etc). he is trying his best to come off as non-threatening but it is making it that much clearer to see what his true intentions are with her
10000000%!!! There's a difference between someone being awkward and a man trying to play up being awkward to seem less threatening. The amount of time he spent messaging her and talking (to himself) to try to convince her that he's just silly and interested in her is suchhh a red flag.
I feel like a gen z rite of passage is knowing some dude who is too far gone in that harmless sensitive musician boi trope and totally uses it to get what he wants out of people especially when it comes to women. like they’re just multiplying at this point. like what’s with all these dudes who can’t take no for an answer?
Is anybody else thinking that him slipping in all these references to romcoms & "girly" stuff he assumes "girls like", comes off as extremely calculated and manipulative? Like pushing the "I'm not like all the other guys, I'm sensitive, I actually like romcoms"-angle? "Oops, that was a Notebook-reference, silly me, haha, how embarassing, uwu". That's when I was sure it was all very intentional and calculated. Plus, the money stuff? More obviouslly intentional. Ugh.
Yeah definitely, trying to slip in that he has abs, money, a good job, likes romcoms, loves old people cus he's so cute, is so intelligent. Basically trying to prove he's the perfect guy but the perfect guy would do none of this
absolutely. It's one thing to mention them if you're talking about your interests or say what kind of tv shows u like oh i like gilmore girls and blah blah, but to find a way to purposefully mention it an act like you didnt mean to, shows that you did intend to mention it for the only reason that you want the other person to know. In this case, he's trying to show that he's into whats considered a "female interest" to try to prove he's "not like other guys" or that he "understands women" because he likes and knows what "women like" i.e tv shows that are probably mainly (but not exclusively ofc) watched by women.
GOD i remember seeing this on twitter when she shared it and i couldn't sit through the voice memos cause they are so incredibly uncomfortable. I've met guys like this and "fedora adjacent" really is a great way to describe them. It really is fucked when they act self aware cause that means they know what they're doing is creepy but are so full of themselves that they think "surely it's not creepy coming from _ME_ " They always use that weirdly formal speech and think they're charismatic and UGH they're just so icky!
I literally never met a pretty girl without ANY personality, even if you just like makeup and stuff, that's still an interest a lot of people are into!! I hate it when guys say pretty girls rarely have a personality, it just makes me think you can't get pretty girls to talk to you.
no literally they think the whole "ur not like other girls you actually have a personality" bit is like the best way to pick up girls but to me its big red flag. might as well walk into the convo and be like "ur not like other girls because I actually view you as a sentient human being
They think they don't have a personality because they don't consider liking girly mainstream things a personality and don't understand how being funny works
in my youth i used to do all my gaming at an internet cafe that was easily 95% guys, and I would regularly hang out with the couple of girls who came regularly, and i'd get asked by other guys there "how come the hot girls here only want to hang out with you?" and i was like "first of all that's kinda rude, implying that hanging out with me is some sort of bad thing, but also, do you even know those "hot girls" names? why the fuck would they want to hang out with you if you can't even see them as people?"
I KNOW A GUY WHO'S JUST LIKE THIS OMG. the super long voice messages, the obvious bragging about EVERYTHING while pretending he's not bragging, repeating himself constantly, delusional in his perception of himself with an ego through the roof, inability to be normal about minority groups, misogynistic, similar diction and accent, he even ends his voice messages with "cheers" too this was absolutely surreal to watch holy fuck (the man in question is like 60 btw)
Yeah I know someone similar online. Although he is a good guy but sometimes he makes me wonder whether he is mentally ok... He is very delusional and even misogynistic at times when it comes to women and he always wonders why he is still a virgin or why no-one wants to date him. I can't really help him, I'm not his therapist. He definitely NEEDS one tho.
The bit that annoys me about stuff like this is the obvious rehearsed nature of the messages and the stuff he says in the voicemail. Like, there is no sincerity or earnest social naivity going on here, it's all calculated. Shame it blew up in his face 🙃
If you breach someone’s privacy via cyber stalking etc, you don’t get to complain about your name being plastered across the internet (especially when he’s done this MULTIPLE TIMES)
@@loen1z it’s so crazy how instead getting therapy/simply stepping away etc, these peeps like the guy just fixate on a person and stalk them, make them feel unsafe and paranoid and only when they’re certain they can’t bully them into a relationship, they move onto the next person. 100% a case of being too immature to even date as well as not living up to their own standards of what they’d want in an SO.
I can tell y'all right now that he did the voice messages to avoid being screenshot and posted on what's left of Reddit or he did it thinking that she'd fall for his "charm" more easily if she heard his voice. Either way, he has failed miserably. He's not funny or charming at all. He's gassing himself up like one of those cringelords on TikTok (with lots of negging) and not only did she screenshot him, she saved the voice memos so now he's being put on blast on Twitter which is even worse than being put on blast on Reddit because he has gone viral enough to make it to TH-cam within days. Rip Bozo. He's gonna die alone.
This man is yuckyyyyyyyyyyy Red flag bigger than Australia 😂 Worse is he started off seemingly just lonely but well intentioned, BUT OH IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL like an OLYMPIC SKIER
He's totally not lonely or horny, though. No, not at all. That's why he had to stalk her from Bumble to Facebook. Cuz that's what normal, well-adjusted dudes do.
thank GOD you made a video on this because i saw the tweet but literally couldn’t stomach getting past 10 seconds of him talking by myself 😭 …unfortunately, i’m also a nosy little gossip so having two people constantly pausing and providing commentary throughout is making it SO much easier to sit through 💀
@@ArturGlass.C he mentions wildlife so I assume it's more about cats killing other wild animals like they be killing birds and reducing populations, I think that's more likely what he meant by actively against cats, I doubt he's actively engaging in abuse of animals considering he says something about feeding ducks
True. If someone doesn't like cats, I usually read that as "I have boundary issues" because if you think all cats are 'assholes', then buddy, I don't think the cats are the problem here. All you have to do to get a cat to like you is respect its boundaries, so I think it's pretty telling
@alvirasweeney2770 "Cat's are assholes" is the same vibe as "I have alot of crazy exes" Like sir, you might be treating them like shit and then they attack you idk what to tell ya 😂😂😂
@@bazathedon but dogs hunt aswell, and he says he loves dogs. +cats hunting can be curbed by keeping them indoors and giving them toys and other forms of enrichment
I’m a cat person myself and have one of my own, and the crazy shit men who don’t like cats will say about cats is fucking insane. They can’t and won’t ever leave it at “I just like dogs better :)” or something, there’s always a mini monologue about how “CaTs sUCk!1!1 dOg SuPerIoR!!1!1!1!!!” Dog do trIcKs!11!11 CaT dOnT dO TrIcK” and eventually just devolves into them wishing all cats were treated like society treats mice and/or rats (ie they should be exterminated). It’s fucking disgusting.
A guy *just like this* stalked me in high school. It got really insane and scary really fast. I feel horrible for this girl, the guy is an obvious predator. I hope she's doing okay and thank goodness she lit his ass up on the internet.
@@Savvce yeah dude it was CRAZY. I had to go out of my way to get friends to literally escort me to classes and take different paths every day. I was struggling in algebra, like C average. This dude was involved in tutoring lower classmen. He went to the office and told them he thought I would benefit from an in-class tutor. Without speaking to me at all the school assigned him to me as my in-class tutor for algebra 1. The first day I walked in and saw him sitting next to my desk I absolutely lost it. I explained to them very clearly that he was using his access to student schedules and information to trail me around school and drive by my house and they'd just helped him to further his sick behaviors. They removed him, but it didn't matter at that point. I was so disturbed by this guy. Andy. Ugh. I'm sorry you went through it, too. It's just such a violating, icky feeling to be followed and obsessed over by someone who scares you.
Unfortunately, this happens way too often. I (24f) have had strangers find me from Tinder on other social media platforms and try to message me. I understand that they want to shoot their shot but it comes across as soo creepy. It crosses so many boundaries. Why can't people respect that someone is not interested in you? This guy is especially delusional
Hi, doobs. I just took a break from my job making balloon animals for sick kids where I make tons of money and grandmas touch my bum. … Hang on someone just called me for a gig, because I’m so popular and make so much money You’re gonna think this is so funny I bet. But anyway, sorry for being creepy. You wanna go out? 😂
was gonna say this! it happens to me 2-3 times a week! I was shocked to see how viral this went cuz when I first saw the tweet I was like "oh haha, regular dating app creep cool" and moved on like it was normal 🥲
He IS self-aware thats why he mentioned "crazy people who didn't know they were crazy" to try and put distance between himself and "those crazy people"
8:49 "holy fuck this person is my kind of weird, and I just figured if I talk to myself like an asshole for a couple minutes, you'd probably feel the same as me" the DELULU
As an autistic who was not used to dating/flirting/interacting with people at all I became friends and briefly dated someone like this, and once they’re comfortable enough they brag quit a lot about the creepy ways they "put the effort in"
as a fellow autistic person... yeah. my ex told me 2 years into our relationship about a private account he used to journal his feelings for me BEFORE we started dating and it was all extremely detailed sexual fantasies or wishing violence against my current friend group at the time & family (for "stealing" me away from him) i wish i could say i broke up with him after, but that was actually a few months later for a completely different reason. why do these people have to be so fucking weird
It really felt like a stranger coming to your house, taking off his shoes, put them on your table while taking the remote, looking at you smiling and tell you to sit next to them.
Every single word out of that dudes mouth was absolute agony. Forcing someone to listen to him ramble on about himself for hours should honestly be a new torture method.
That man has got to be a psychopath. Calling himself a “genuine, nice person” while everything about him is screaming disingenuous & negging a-hole is so unserious. I feel rly bad for the woman who received his messages, I would be horrified
@@bonaparte6431 I think it's not because there aren't creeps back then but because back then they can get away cus of normalized patriarchal problems and misogyny, so most likely it's just straight-up sa with other people not condemning it😥.
i’m so glad you guys were as freaked out by the nickname thing as i was, ITS SO WEIRD to give a nickname to someone you just found on the internet by stalking them, it’s literally some Joe goldberg shit. the only people who call me by a nickname are my brother and my boyfriend, anyone else, no thanks.
I have had many men find me on my socials from dating sites when we didn't match. It's always so creepy and scary how much they go through to just send you weird messages.
That sounds absolutely terrifying. When I was in like 8th grade, I was in a collab group on TH-cam. I posted my first video and some girl commented on it that I was cute and then proceeded to search me up on Facebook and messaged me. I was so scared. That’s the closest I’ve ever been to experiencing something like that… but yeah that sounds absolutely terrifying
@@here151 It's nothing short of terrifying when people invade boundaries like that. It's especially disturbing when you have very little identifying info besides first name on anything. That girl had to have gone through some FBI shit to find you.
this kinda reminds me of a guy i went to school with who was suddenly standing in front of my house, in the middle of winter. it was really cold, anddddd i’d never really talked to him, let alone told him my address😀
My autistic ass woulda thought he was genuine and just being super nervous because he saw me and just, idk, was swept off his feet. I would've been endeared, actually. I would've been like, "oh, someone who doesn't like the meeting people phase, and wants to at least go straight to friends!". All the way until he said he thought she should've been boring because she was pretty. That right there just shattered it, and then he just starts spiraling downhill. It just keeps getting worse. Oh my god.
Broo stay safe!!! Make sure a friend or family member looks out for you, you’re vulnerable because you’re autistic and therefore an easy target to predators like the creep in the video.
bro i had the same thought! i actually dated someone like him because i thought she was just awkward and shy but really she was just fucking weird to me
@SapphicSapien Thanks for the concern, friend! But while I do give people the benefit of the doubt and try to be understanding probably more than I should, I'm also very aware that I _do_ that, and that I can be taken advantage of. But like I said earlier, I don't miss _all_ red flags - the instant the guy said he expected pretty girls to be boring, everything switched to "oh, this guy is just a manipulative asshole". I'm not _completely_ gullible, lmao! But thank you for the reminder - it's easy to forget that being neurodivergent (and disabled) can actually _make_ me a target for those looking to abuse. I was diagnosed late in life, and my physical disabilities didn't really present until puberty and later, so sometimes it can be hard to remember all that comes with being neurodivergent and disabled, since I spent most of my life not thinking of myself that way. It's hard to remember how that affects how _others_ perceive me, since so much of my journey is rewiring how _I_ perceive _myself,_ y'know? So genuinely, thank you for the reminder that people might target me _specifically because_ of those aspects, because they think I'm vulnerable. I needed that reminder!
(21:26 ) When he says “You’re easily in the top 3” bio’s I’ve seen its so weird like I can’t even imagine what insane self insert fan-fiction ballad he sent the others was.
Men do this ALL THE TIME and its so fucking creepy; its the online equivalent to trying to get attention from women who have their headphones on, that are obviously ignoring them, and insist anyways.
I’d argue it’s specifically the type of guy who’d actually grab your headphones off your head so you have to talk to him. And then when you ask for them back, he plays a little « game » (you didn’t consent to) that basically involves putting your headphones out of your reach while he giggles and rambles about how adorable it is that you’re shorter than him and how cute you look when you’re angry. And then he says « I’ll give them back if you give me your number/call me « daddy »/go on a date with me » 🤮
I’ve unmatched with people on dating apps & had them track me down on social media. Thankfully, I no longer have dating apps or social media, so good riddance.
he was already awful & as soon as he said he hated cats i knew he was even worse. it’s one thing if cats just aren’t your thing, but the type of person that feels the need to proclaim they hate cats 100% display signs of sociopathy.
I had heard these “voice notes” before on Twitter, but you guys emphasized something I didn’t even notice last time: he claims he won’t engage with people who ACTUALLY matched with him if they dare to start with just a “hey”….but will do all of whatever this is for someone who didn’t swipe on him. Also love the typical slight “neg” of “you’re definitely top 3” - even when you’re risking it all to be a creep to a woman, she can’t be number 1, always gotta have other options
I've never seen the notebook, does he really? I hate when people use suicide to manipulate people. As someone who has been suicidal, and had people use it against me; it makes me sick.
I am on so much Xanax right now and I don't even have words for how underhanded, stress inducing, and all over backhanded these compliments and voice memos are. I legit feel insane. *Edit:* I am no longer on a bunch of Xanax and all of these messages make me want to chew on plywood and personally seek this guy out to scream at him. No substance to the screaming just, like, rollercoaster screaming.
i love the friendship between dev and nick. when nick stumbled on his words during his "lock me up" joke and dev immediately just went "nooo! it was funny, it was good, it was good!" was so sweet. best duo.
he is talking with all the personality, cadence and delusion of joe goldberg’s monologues from You. like this literally all sounds like it went through a team of scriptwriters😭
i’m TERRIFIED bc two toxic exes of mine (one of whom was sexually abusive, the other was emotionally & physically abusive for 3yrs) are fully capable of doing some creepy/whack foolery like this… i recognize many red flags from the words and behaviors of this mannn it’s crazy bro AND both of these exes would claim stuff like “dislikes: bigots etc” and like false green flags bc they might know what is socially acceptable for some women but are actually v misogynistic ughhhh
Mhm. The "bigots are bad" line doesn't trick me anymore, I need to analyze dudes further. Just saying they're feminists or whatever is just some learned line they feed women now to try to trick them into bed
Yeah, rather than simply saying bigoty=bad :(, i try to make it clear that I'm like. An extreme woke lefty, im trans, im gay, I'm poly, like if you can't get down with some socialist revolution, then I'm not into it. *and yet* guys who really hate minorities will still try to come to my profile and pretend like all of that is fine until we are close enough for them to try to change every single one of those core things that I explicitly said are non-negotiable. It's extremely telling that dudes who genuinely believe horrible shit about minorities, women, etc. are willing to forego everything they believe in just to get laid. It's a sign that either they're just too shallow to stick to their guns and own their idiot shit, or they don't actually believe in the bs they're repeating but are intentionally using it as a neg to make you insecure and intimidate you.
There is definitely some people who decide to be creepy. I mean, I added a guy on snap because I felt like being a little extroverted, and for like fifteen minutes we sent ceiling picks to each other. Then out of NOWHERE, he sends a snap asking for nudes. Like, does he think I have no dignity, like I don’t even know you and I wouldn’t even feel comfortable doing that in a romantic relationship, but like I don’t even know him. It was just a really like face palm moment that some people don’t respect others on a basic level. Also, I love these videos and they bring me a lot of happiness, I am really glad you got into this kind of content because it is informative and fun to watch!
The world has punished me so much for believing people in good faith. I've decided to give a guy my number even if we didn't talk that much and we sent just a few text message and he was like "alright can we get a date then" and argued with me when I said I still didn't know him enough. I told him I was gonna stop talking to him and he harassed me still asking for a date. They are ruining everything for everyone. They make it impossible to be spontaneous and carefree. And for what, like that shit doesn't even work.
This is the type of person who WILL NOT SHUT UP in a convo and barely ever lets you talk, like he's making it so easy to hate him dont care didn't ask about all that personal bullshit
Seriously, people who never let the other person talk are the worst. Usually just self-absorbed assholes who couldn't care less about the other person.
I thought I was completely desensitized to cringe, I wasn't able to feel it for a couple of years now. This guy brought the feeling back. Damn, it's a weird feeling.
Listen, I've had some cringe AF moments in online dating. Some truly "Dear God what was I thinking, I want to die that I did this even like 10+ years ago" moments (yeah I'm p. old) but none of it was even in the same UNIVERSE as this. What the HELL. This simultaneously makes me hate the part of myself that was ever even a fraction of a percent like that and also really glad that I was never THAT GUY even at my worst. Also it disturbs me that so many dudes like this exist. So, so many.
The way he convinced himself that it will work out so he thinks a straightforward approach is perfect it's kinda sad, it looks like one of those incels advices on dating
It's not sad when you realize he's done this several times and targets young women on purpose. Its all a manipulation tactic and the "this is kind of pathetic" is part of the gimmick. He doesn't want an actual relationship, he wants an easily manipulated child bearer to keep in his house as one of his many "accomplishments" at best and a "stable" at worst.
@@karnagekarnival5127 you're right😭 I just realized know, his sexual comments covered as jokes are already telling too, ig irl I would've just assumed that he's a weirdo
At 11:20 when he said "ridonkulous" i had to pause the video and physically walk around in a circle to stop myself from regressing to monkey status and throwing my feces
okay, the original post now has a LOT of updates. i will make a followup video on he said us soon....
can it get worse?
never been more excited for a followup vid in my life
i have a gut feeling that this goofy guy actually got esposed to be a reallllly bad guy
thanks nick, don’t want to know how going through the thread alone would affect my overall well-being☺️
@@kittycrimes. you are correct 😔
its crazy that this man built a one-sided relationship w a woman he has NEVER talked to, gave her a nickname?? told her everything about himself and what he did in the past week!! after all she said was "sorry, who are you?"
He’s done it to other women. Like, exactly the same details in the ramble.
It’s a script.
literally what i am saying too! this man...i am speechless
@@joearnold6881"I'm not trying to sell you Tupperware.... Not yet"
He's so smooth
It’s like he developed a parasocial relationship with someone who has said a grand total of FOUR WORDS to him!
Those words? “Sorry, who are you?”
YES EXACTLY the one-sidedness of it all is so insane to me. He doesn't KNOW HER, he's never fkn TALKED TO HER yet he's spamming her with all this shit as if they've been best buddies for years. I'd be SOOO creeped out if a total stranger started talking to me like this!! Plus in the context of dating, a person who goes out of their way to hunt down strangers on social media and send them voice memos doesn't seem like the kinda person I wanna get involved with. It just reeks of desperation and trying way too hard.
There isn't really a line between "effort" and "creepy," there's a valley between them.
There is a line, actually, because it's called "respect" and it's very easy to not cross it. If you were rejected for X, going out of your way to do X in another context to the same person is creepy. If you're rejected for X and you stop doing X to that person, that's effort.
I'll one up you and say "consent" is the valley between creepy and effort
@@LunaWitcherArt It's not hard to just not do something, actually. So it's not effort. Like she said - not a line, a valley. You have to go out of your way to KEEP doing something. Her saying "line" meant that it's not THAT hard to not cross it.
@@stardewpostingExactly. It's harder to cross that valley than it is to do nothing.
@@violetheise4717 Right! Fine line as a term exists for things like experiencing love or hatred for the same person, bc they're both similar extremes in emotions that's hard to (inwardly) control. But cyberstalking women to use the same lines for years? That's not smth u go "oops teehee nudged over into this line"
The fact that this creep found that woman on Bumble is even worse, because their whole thing is "women message first". If you're not gonna respect that, get off Bumble.
wow so true
he probably got banned from tinder and j hopped on bumble 😭
@fernthegreenfairy5246 from what I understand, if two women match on bumble, either one of them can message first (and same goes for men messaging men). 😊
If I worked in bumble marketing, I'd want to put a hit out
why can the guys even see girls profiles before they message then?
I bet that when he sends these voice messages, he listens to them so he can giggle about how silly, funny, and charismatic he is.
He rehearses them before sending by reading his script in the mirror
Don't forget 'goofy' because he is such a adorable goofball 🙃
LMFAOO
Yeah this guy is a dweeb
EW he definetly does
This man decided the best way to win a girl's heart was to subject her to a solo podcast in chunks. There is no punishment too severe
it is pure podcaster voice isn’t it
@@tompoyntonhaha 69
@@tomorrowstom nice
@@tomorrowstom 70 now :(
Dude is really blabbering on like he just did 4 lines of ❄
“Im a huge animal lover” “cats suck” in the same breath 😭 feeding my idea that men who have some weird hatred towards cats just suck
unless they're allergic
@@RordonGamseya hatred towards something because ur allergic is still weird like why do u hate soemthing because it makes u sneeze
@@lex-zv9rqI love cats but I get asthma with them around (other than the usual sneeze, cough, eye-puffing)… I would get if someone disliked them (hate is too strong of a word, poor animals haven’t done anything) if they need to go to the hospital after staying in a room with one (I still love them because I love all pets, but I understand the dislike)
@@lex-zv9rq it's easy to say for ppl who are allergic but ofc it's not that deep. I'm allergic to fur and I instinctively feel repulsed by anything with fur just thinking about how my skin and my whole respiratory system would feel. It's more like a phobia.
@@lex-zv9rq I mean it's a probable cause in the context of someone saying cats suck even if they say they love animals. Just saying
I absolutely do not believe that man is in therapy. That man recorded over seven minutes of monologue, including his tax returns and accents. That is psychotic.
Considering he's been saying the same stuff since 2016, maybe he just forgot to change his script when he stopped going to therapy
It really sounds like sociopathy, which, if he actually goes to therapy, would explain the « level » of self-awareness and how to « seem » non-threatening and approchable;
@@vivianebrodeur6687 For a second I wondered if I come across like that.
But... I dont enter random women or men's dms and do... _that_
Boundaries. He needs to learn *boundaries*
@@vivianebrodeur6687actually terrifying.
it could be autism, not knowing social ques, self awareness. autism and sociopathy are often conflated. i just don’t want to assume based on this weird ass interaction.
"For a pretty girl you actually have a personality " why do guys think this is a compliment
I never understood how looks are connected to personality. They’re completely separate things.
I think this is an example of "negging". Gross dating tactics
like i’ve never felt less complimented or pretty, thx
It’s soo condescending
They don’t see women as people so a woman with a personality is alien to them
My friend dated a guy EXACTLY like this in middle school. Did karate and claimed he could catch a bullet in mid air, played the guitar, the works. She ended up needing a restraining order and he still dates women who look just like her and have her name.
MIDDLE SCHOOL LMAOO that says it all, doesn't it?
bro I know someone with that exact same description he’s not a creep to my knowledge but honestly that’s doubtful
Dear god, this reminds me of a high school "boyfriend" I had for a couple weeks. His name was Robert but he insisted people call him Steel(no one called him Steel). He would tell anybody who would listen that he was descended from ancient Egyptian priests and would write love letters to me in hieroglyphics. He brought a katana with him everywhere he went and claimed to have a blackbelt in karate, which came in handy since he was constantly stopping crime by beating up guys twice his size. It happened while he patrolled his neighborhood at night, that's why no one saw it happen, he swears!
The whole time we "dated" was basically just me trying to avoid him until I finally worked up the courage to officially break up with him 😂
@@natsinthebelfryI'm just wondering, what made you decide to say yes in the first place? Did you not know them well enough yet?
@@qazwsx014jsbd8 I was a really nerdy, shy teenager and the idea that this (actually pretty good looking) guy had a crush on me took me by surprise. I didn't know him very well before he asked me out but I decided to take a chance.
I've never IN MY LIFE heard a person who liked hearing themself talk as much as this guy does. Holy shit. It's wild that teen girls get shit for the "I'm so random and quirky" personality when people like this exist.
its especially wild since teen girls get shit for things that don’t matter but teen boys get away with so much that they grow into these types of people. i’m not trying to take responsibility away from this guy, because he’s clearly a grown man, but there was definitely a point during his childhood where someone could have stepped in and could have prevented this. the way he talks and is comparing his actions to famous romance movies, he THINKS he’s right, he thinks he has a chance with this girl. that’s ridiculous.
because people, espeically men, love shitting on teen girls. They’ll go on and on about whatever hobby or drink that teen girls typically like, but ignore when sports fan, primarily men, go apeshit about a stupid sport.
"I'm such an animal lover - you know, except for the most popular domestic pet which I fucking despise for some reason"
FACTS!! and logic
i read somewhere that if guys straight up hate cats and voice how much they hate them, it's a sign they will not respect your boundaries in a relationship. because a cat has a lot of boundaries unlike a dog.
I’ll never fully trust someone that actively hates cats. And it’s not cause “but they’re cute”, but because you need to understand them and be attentive with their boundaries to have a nice relationship with them, unlike dogs who are usually more loving whatever is your behavior.
It can be a red flag really hating cats’ personalities.
the venn diagram of men that hate cats and men that hate women is a circle
The fact that she wasn’t responding and he MADE UP A CONVERSATION WITH HER to talk about him and what she might want to know😭 I’m in so much pain .
He literally sounds like he's trying to hit certain "checks" off a list he got from one of those dating advice manosphere grifters. Mentioning a female best friend, name dropping a romantic movie, talking about singing in retirement homes as if to say he's, like, sweet or something, etc. Combine that with all the other red flags and I'd legitimately be scared. Poor Kelsey.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Referencing THE MOST stereotypical romance movie that women are typically into, mentioning the female friend he supposedly has, being a musician with just soooo many gigs and has a lot of money (all self-started of course), etc. She is also apparently just so unique and special she has to be made up by his mom (to sound like he is good to his mom, since women look for that too). It all sounds like he made himself up to be the main character of a y/n fanfiction.
@@angelina6398Unluckily for him a lot of women have read that shit and will call him out for being a wannabe Wattpad!Dylan Sprouse.
@@hannahleigh6152lmaoooooo ty for making me smile today - I couldn’t figure out who that voice reminded me of 😂
kelsaaaaayyyy*
Yeah this is what I was thinking the whole time too! Especially when he made a point of referencing Gilmore Girls when it was barely even tangentially related
even without the context of how he approached her, notice how in all of his voice memos he just talks about HIMSELF. Dude doesn’t even TRY to seem like he wants to get to know her better, the voice memos literally feel like I listened to a deranged person’s leaked video diaries 😭
my cat only has to use his paw, claws retracted 🥰 if he puts his paw on you a certain way that is your signal to LEAVE HIM ALONE! i will tell him as soon as his tail starts to wag when i'm petting "oh ok i see, you're getting stressed, i will just appreciate you from afar 🥰
edit - my youtube glitched out i swear i'm not losing my mind lmaooo. i was on cat youtube
It's also because he's trying to big himself up to make the situation become "You should want to get to know me because I'm great!" he also uses tactics to make the girl feel devalued like on one girl he said "it's ok that you think you're fatter in person which by the way sounds great to me" make the girl feel lesser so she feels lucky a guy would even approach her. Dude is a psycho.
exactly what i thought. to give him the benefit of the doubt for just a second, i guess his goal was to say a couple things about himself as an introduction, so she isn't put off by a complete stranger she knows nothing about. (which is ultimately useless, considering how he approached in the first place she's gonna be put off no matter what he says.) but even if that was true... mentioning his tax returns? how attractive he thought he was? that he has BIG FEET? TMI across the board, he just sounds concieted at best.
And then he continues to say he’s “clearly very humble” 😭😭
@@mightymeatymech The comment actually makes sense on this context too.
A red flag I’ve only recently noticed is when men vocalize their consideration of “just settling for other men.” My brother does this. They think they’re such a prize that all of womankind will balk at the idea of them being off-limits (not to mention, these kinds of men take lesbians as a personal insult and assume women feel the same way about gay men). It’s a threat.
It's a very similar red flag when a guy tells you that you're, "not like other girls." If they're comfortable dissing women just to give you a compliment it usually indicates that they don't really think all that highly of any woman, including you.
You gotta handle your brother, friend 🥲
I love the misogyny of 'women's profiles are so shit I might have to date men haha'
being gay: the Most manly 😅💀
@@GrayYeonWannabe the ancient Greek method
@@GrayYeonWannabegray from weak hero?
Well, I would be tempted to say "go ahead", but then, this would a hatecrime agaist gay people, so maybe not.
Yeah like just be gay own up to it it’s pretty cool to fuck dudes imo
the “accent” is theater-kid adjacent/online video game monger/pubic mustache kid. he loves plushies and embraces the term “weird kid”
sounds like a lighter version of this blonde omegle guy with glasses (think he was cosplaying as someone) from a don stever video
@@poidalouBYAKUYA. THEY WERE COSPLAYING BYAKUYA TOGAMI LMAO. the memories you just brought back 😭😭
@@mr.bingusthecatnot the danganronpaaaa 😭😭😭
Sounds like the quartering
oh god u litreally got it perfect
He’s so desperately trying to come off as non-threatening in the most threatening way you can imagine. So damn bizarre
He seems like the type of guy that would mansplain my own job to me to make it seem like we got a connection
oh, youre a writer? that’s writing pieces of writing, right? haha, yeah, I do something similar called being an “author”, where I write instead of writing instead. so glad to have that similarity with you, let’s talk about it later!
@@wrightcember Don't forget "Oh that's cool you got that as a project. I'm making my way into the field. Well I'm looking to"
Like when he's having that as a goal it's a career but if you do it's a cool little project. Even if you're more professionally accomplished.
he’s the male version of that girl that mocks quirky indie movie protagonists, but he’s actually being 100% serious
Delaneyyyyy
Jesus Christ you’re absolutely right
Lmao i love her
Omg I don't even follow her and I know exactly who you're talking about you are so right
HE IS who she is making fun of😭
Dev’s truly horrified scream at “wouldn’t kick you out of bed for eating crackers” killed me dead
his sense of humour seems like.. studied. like if you described joking banter to an alien and fed them some examples, this guy's personality would be the result. theyre technically jokes but with less than zero charm or actual humour. i know being unfunny is a drop in the bucket compared to essentially cyberstalking this woman, but i just cant get over how absolutely cringe inducing every sentence is lmao.
oh my god he said hes in mississauga.. this man is so close to me wtf now i have to live in fear of him matching with my friends on apps and trailing them around the internet!!
tryhard. yep
Actual sociopath
AI generated humor lol
this is so spot on
As it turns out, he’s been sending this exact same message to dozens of women since 2016. Almost verbatim and sometimes actually verbatim. So your read is spot-on. He’s had 7+ years to memorize this incredible winning script.
it's even creepier because bumble's rule is girls have to dm boys first, so this dude went on a HUNT
They didn’t even match so that’s not even relevant!! He’s literally unbalanced
@@maddieb.4282 oh my god i didn't even realize! this guy stinks! >:((((((
@@maddieb.4282 oh my god i didn't even realize! this guy stinks! >:((((((
Somehow that makes it significantly worse 😭😭
In his eyes, women are objects and therefore prey he can hunt 🤮
i’m honestly so so happy that other women have come forward with their experiences… because if it was just the OP, the guy for sure would’ve come out with a video saying how it was all a “social experiment” or a skit/bit/etc and that everyone fell for it and how he’s obviously doing satire since he’s a “natural performer who loves to make people laugh”… and state “i even said to share this with your friends and laugh, clearly i’m self-aware” etc etc but with so many other women sharing similar experiences over multiple years, no way this is a bit. just a genuinely unhinged guy that needs to be removed from all social media/dating platforms asap. i didn’t even just cringe during this i felt legitimately nauseous
NOOO YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! That's absolutely the next move for guys like this if we don't call them out with receipts! So glad all the women in that thread had the same instinct to save and then bring up the memos. It's important to warn others about guys like this and make it as difficult as possible for them to try this shit again!
I love how it went from kinda weird but seemingly well-intentioned to mega-yikes misogynistic so damn fast 😭
Yeah at first I felt a lot of pity for him like he must be really lonely to cling onto a parasocial relationship and pursue that. But then you realize it's just that he's so full of himself he thinks he's irresistible and this cannot go wrong. And only cling onto her because he thinks there's only one funny girl that can exist in the world and that's his sign from destiny they're made for each other.
I’m only 6 mins in I’m scared
Idk how a dude searching someone up who didn't even match with them in the first place, and then message them to be well intentioned, even from the jump.
Exactly..👍
It was always mysogonystic
All the updates on the twitter thread show that this is a very rehearsed tactic on his part, and additionally, that he's dangerous. He's trying *so* hard to come off non-threatening, a social klutz, and in on the joke of invading women's privacy.
He presents himself as being like leading men in romantic comedies, as being like Gilmore Girls. His weird behaviour is like a meet-cute! You'll laugh about it one day!
But this man has been doing this routine for a decade now, refining it further and further. He does it to barely legal women and underage girls. He negs them. He assaults them. He stalks them. He's an actual predator. Just packaged as being a little bit socially inept, in hopes of getting close enough to cause further harm.
tbh he kinda IS like the ML of romcoms, which is one of the reasons i absolutely cannot stand 99% of them. super creepy misogynistic behavior is actively rewarded in those goddamn flicks
Yo as an autistic person, I wish that guy wouldn't drag our classic flirting technique of being charmingly socially awkward into his weird harassement scheme.
This feels like the e-boy trend at the start of tiktok. Where a lot of men were adopting a lot of aesthetics and traits/behaviors from "emo" culture to seem more emotionally open and vulnerable than they were to prey on women
Creeps will turn everything into a way to decieve women into sex. It's exhausting.
No this is so true. He gives me the same vibes as my past groomers and has that same behavior and like mannerisms. Very predator esc
That’s scary. Women need to know to avoid him. I’m guessing most do, but there could be someone who is too nice and won’t just block him immediately.
What do I look up to find all of it?
This would be insanely creepy at a date, but finding someones personal social media account and sending them this is down right delusional. "I have good emotional intelligence." Are you sure. Are you sure? ARE YOU SURE???
As a voice actor and a cosplayer.... I've met a lot of guys like this and we NEED to call them out and spread their names cause I've never met one that didn't end up being a predator. I absolutely became nauseous listening to these voice memos.
FR BRUH
oh absofuckinglutely, this is like, if you found out a podcaster had allegations against them and the voice memos were leaked, except the voice memos were leaked before he ever became famous
Hell, the first thing I thought when he started speaking was “creepy voice actor.” 😭
I don’t even do voice acting or know any VAs. There’s just something that’s immediately off-putting and I’m not sure what it is.
im also a voice actor/cosplayer, and there are so many people like this at conventions. don’t get me wrong, a lot of people there are really nice, but there definitely are those people
@@kero6298 Most creeps have a yucky in their voices and even text messages
As a woman who is in the online dating world, this happens A LOT. My requests are full of weirdos from Tinder.
Same. Dudes have even found me on Snapchat and it’s so weird.
that is so wild to me. i got my share of creeps back when i was on dating sites as a "woman" but i s2g the weirdos have evolved since i transitioned 6 yrs ago. that never happened to me 😵💫
Yep
Wait how though? Do you just put your full name on everything??
@@Millie-Million some people can take the tiniest things and use it find out so much information on someone
how big of a narcissist do you have to be to believe a random stranger wants to listen to 10 minutes of you having a conversation with yourself.
"Your bio is just the fucking bees knees" GIRL BLOCK HIM. RUN.
BEES KNEES HELP 😭😭
IMMEDIATELY NO
I dont get it?
There's a whole 13 UPDATES of different women he's interacted with all posted in that thread and it just gets even fucking worse
WHAT
Please make a video on the updates!
wait who is this i need to find the thread
@@greenisnotnickthere are now 21 updates ☠️
I dated a guy literally EXACTLY like this a couple years ago. They are literally the “nice guy’s finish last” type of guys. I was 20 and he was 30…. He actually told me that he usually goes for younger girls because they’re “more fun” and are interested in the same things he’s interested. I regret dating him so much, I was in a horrible, dark place mentally and completely ignored all the red flags . I’m glad I’m away from him now
this guy is definitely not just some cringe "theater kid" like people in the comments are saying.
I knew a guy EXACTLY like this, he put on a mask of being clumsy, awkward, and constantly calling himself nice guy / down to earth. he even played guitar and lol.. he was constantly pushing my boundaries and trying to get in my pants even tho i said i wasnt interested. he turned out to be a sx offender and i dont talk to him anymore.
the guy in the video has sent the same script to other women + pushing boundaries by tracking women down on their socials... very predatory, a lot like the guy i knew.
i know someone pretty much exactly the same as well (including the sx offender part). people suck.
the way that he kept pointing out that he "just wants to be friends and nothing more" while simultaneously commenting on her "assets", and trying to appeal to all her likes and dislikes from her bio (the notebook reference, feeding animals in park, disliking joykillers etc). he is trying his best to come off as non-threatening but it is making it that much clearer to see what his true intentions are with her
10000000%!!! There's a difference between someone being awkward and a man trying to play up being awkward to seem less threatening. The amount of time he spent messaging her and talking (to himself) to try to convince her that he's just silly and interested in her is suchhh a red flag.
I feel like a gen z rite of passage is knowing some dude who is too far gone in that harmless sensitive musician boi trope and totally uses it to get what he wants out of people especially when it comes to women. like they’re just multiplying at this point. like what’s with all these dudes who can’t take no for an answer?
@@nes420 they're literally everywhere, ESPECIALLY around college areas
Is anybody else thinking that him slipping in all these references to romcoms & "girly" stuff he assumes "girls like", comes off as extremely calculated and manipulative? Like pushing the "I'm not like all the other guys, I'm sensitive, I actually like romcoms"-angle? "Oops, that was a Notebook-reference, silly me, haha, how embarassing, uwu". That's when I was sure it was all very intentional and calculated. Plus, the money stuff? More obviouslly intentional. Ugh.
Yeah definitely, trying to slip in that he has abs, money, a good job, likes romcoms, loves old people cus he's so cute, is so intelligent. Basically trying to prove he's the perfect guy but the perfect guy would do none of this
it absolutely is softboy uwu energy, youre 100% correct
If a man mentions The Notebook in any light other than derogatory that's a red flag. The main character of that movie is a nutjob.
absolutely. It's one thing to mention them if you're talking about your interests or say what kind of tv shows u like oh i like gilmore girls and blah blah, but to find a way to purposefully mention it an act like you didnt mean to, shows that you did intend to mention it for the only reason that you want the other person to know. In this case, he's trying to show that he's into whats considered a "female interest" to try to prove he's "not like other guys" or that he "understands women" because he likes and knows what "women like" i.e tv shows that are probably mainly (but not exclusively ofc) watched by women.
The part that really got me was when he talked about feeding ba y swans so often they recognize him. In literally what world?
GOD i remember seeing this on twitter when she shared it and i couldn't sit through the voice memos cause they are so incredibly uncomfortable. I've met guys like this and "fedora adjacent" really is a great way to describe them.
It really is fucked when they act self aware cause that means they know what they're doing is creepy but are so full of themselves that they think "surely it's not creepy coming from _ME_ "
They always use that weirdly formal speech and think they're charismatic and UGH they're just so icky!
Nothin wrong with having a good, wide vocabulary but treating a casual conversation like an essay is so insufferable
I literally never met a pretty girl without ANY personality, even if you just like makeup and stuff, that's still an interest a lot of people are into!!
I hate it when guys say pretty girls rarely have a personality, it just makes me think you can't get pretty girls to talk to you.
no literally they think the whole "ur not like other girls you actually have a personality" bit is like the best way to pick up girls but to me its big red flag. might as well walk into the convo and be like "ur not like other girls because I actually view you as a sentient human being
They think they don't have a personality because they don't consider liking girly mainstream things a personality and don't understand how being funny works
in my youth i used to do all my gaming at an internet cafe that was easily 95% guys, and I would regularly hang out with the couple of girls who came regularly, and i'd get asked by other guys there "how come the hot girls here only want to hang out with you?" and i was like "first of all that's kinda rude, implying that hanging out with me is some sort of bad thing, but also, do you even know those "hot girls" names? why the fuck would they want to hang out with you if you can't even see them as people?"
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@@kitty0chan444you’re so right actually!
I KNOW A GUY WHO'S JUST LIKE THIS OMG. the super long voice messages, the obvious bragging about EVERYTHING while pretending he's not bragging, repeating himself constantly, delusional in his perception of himself with an ego through the roof, inability to be normal about minority groups, misogynistic, similar diction and accent, he even ends his voice messages with "cheers" too this was absolutely surreal to watch holy fuck (the man in question is like 60 btw)
LOL MEE TOOO 😭😭 he reminds me so much of my ex friend dude. Makes my skin crawl 😭😭😭😭
Dude, same here!! It's fucked that these weirdos walk among us. 😬
Yeah I know someone similar online. Although he is a good guy but sometimes he makes me wonder whether he is mentally ok...
He is very delusional and even misogynistic at times when it comes to women and he always wonders why he is still a virgin or why no-one wants to date him. I can't really help him, I'm not his therapist. He definitely NEEDS one tho.
@@RandomSwiftie13ow is he a good guy then??😧
same! i had liked this dude and he ended up acting like this…
The bit that annoys me about stuff like this is the obvious rehearsed nature of the messages and the stuff he says in the voicemail. Like, there is no sincerity or earnest social naivity going on here, it's all calculated. Shame it blew up in his face 🙃
If you breach someone’s privacy via cyber stalking etc, you don’t get to complain about your name being plastered across the internet (especially when he’s done this MULTIPLE TIMES)
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@@loen1z it’s so crazy how instead getting therapy/simply stepping away etc, these peeps like the guy just fixate on a person and stalk them, make them feel unsafe and paranoid and only when they’re certain they can’t bully them into a relationship, they move onto the next person.
100% a case of being too immature to even date as well as not living up to their own standards of what they’d want in an SO.
I can tell y'all right now that he did the voice messages to avoid being screenshot and posted on what's left of Reddit or he did it thinking that she'd fall for his "charm" more easily if she heard his voice. Either way, he has failed miserably. He's not funny or charming at all. He's gassing himself up like one of those cringelords on TikTok (with lots of negging) and not only did she screenshot him, she saved the voice memos so now he's being put on blast on Twitter which is even worse than being put on blast on Reddit because he has gone viral enough to make it to TH-cam within days. Rip Bozo. He's gonna die alone.
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This man is yuckyyyyyyyyyyy
Red flag bigger than Australia 😂
Worse is he started off seemingly just lonely but well intentioned, BUT OH IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL like an OLYMPIC SKIER
Yuck! I honestly didn't even consider that at first, but you're so right 🤢
He's totally not lonely or horny, though. No, not at all. That's why he had to stalk her from Bumble to Facebook. Cuz that's what normal, well-adjusted dudes do.
rip bozo indeed
thank GOD you made a video on this because i saw the tweet but literally couldn’t stomach getting past 10 seconds of him talking by myself 😭 …unfortunately, i’m also a nosy little gossip so having two people constantly pausing and providing commentary throughout is making it SO much easier to sit through 💀
"actively doesn't like cats" is an inexcusable red flag, as if the rest of this wasn't already...
Truly. What does he mean by actively cuz I don't think he realizes that implies he's taking actions against cats as in abuse.
@@ArturGlass.C he mentions wildlife so I assume it's more about cats killing other wild animals like they be killing birds and reducing populations, I think that's more likely what he meant by actively against cats, I doubt he's actively engaging in abuse of animals considering he says something about feeding ducks
True. If someone doesn't like cats, I usually read that as "I have boundary issues" because if you think all cats are 'assholes', then buddy, I don't think the cats are the problem here. All you have to do to get a cat to like you is respect its boundaries, so I think it's pretty telling
@alvirasweeney2770 "Cat's are assholes" is the same vibe as "I have alot of crazy exes" Like sir, you might be treating them like shit and then they attack you idk what to tell ya 😂😂😂
@@bazathedon but dogs hunt aswell, and he says he loves dogs. +cats hunting can be curbed by keeping them indoors and giving them toys and other forms of enrichment
I once heard someone say that people who don't like cats don't know boundaries and I think this guy is the *epitome* of that.
he definitely has described himself as a golden retriever
@@alien_from_andromedaLMAO THATS PERFECT
I’m a cat person myself and have one of my own, and the crazy shit men who don’t like cats will say about cats is fucking insane. They can’t and won’t ever leave it at “I just like dogs better :)” or something, there’s always a mini monologue about how “CaTs sUCk!1!1 dOg SuPerIoR!!1!1!1!!!” Dog do trIcKs!11!11 CaT dOnT dO TrIcK” and eventually just devolves into them wishing all cats were treated like society treats mice and/or rats (ie they should be exterminated). It’s fucking disgusting.
@@Yunariapeople who dont like cats are the same people who will call pet rodents dirty change my mind
@@theMyRadiowasTaken you are 100% correct lol
This guy is the type to create little scenarios in his head where he thinks he’s in a tv talk show interview
I do too (as a way to think through something sometimes) BUT I DONT RECORD THEM AND SEND TO SOMEONE UNPROMPTED WTF.
love how he says "I swear I'm not a serial killer" then proceeds to act like a total fucking serial killer
We, AJR, can always count on Nick to give us the news on the latest drama!
ajr, my favorite band, i love the song "Thirsty"
thirsty thirsty thursday yodelododolelolheehoo
omg ajr i loved ur song I'm ready featuring my favorite show ever the popular nickelodeon series called SpongeBob
My favorite song is when they talk about felling like woody Allen, i too feel like a completely unproblematic celebrity! Bravo!
wow i loved when you guys sung a song about a thing probably somewhere in miami
Omg I love that song about some tiny guitar or smth. I totally felt like people have worse problems.
A guy *just like this* stalked me in high school. It got really insane and scary really fast. I feel horrible for this girl, the guy is an obvious predator. I hope she's doing okay and thank goodness she lit his ass up on the internet.
Sorry that happened to you. I had a woman stalk me at work once. It was weird.
@@Savvce yeah dude it was CRAZY. I had to go out of my way to get friends to literally escort me to classes and take different paths every day. I was struggling in algebra, like C average. This dude was involved in tutoring lower classmen. He went to the office and told them he thought I would benefit from an in-class tutor. Without speaking to me at all the school assigned him to me as my in-class tutor for algebra 1. The first day I walked in and saw him sitting next to my desk I absolutely lost it. I explained to them very clearly that he was using his access to student schedules and information to trail me around school and drive by my house and they'd just helped him to further his sick behaviors. They removed him, but it didn't matter at that point. I was so disturbed by this guy. Andy. Ugh. I'm sorry you went through it, too. It's just such a violating, icky feeling to be followed and obsessed over by someone who scares you.
Unfortunately, this happens way too often. I (24f) have had strangers find me from Tinder on other social media platforms and try to message me. I understand that they want to shoot their shot but it comes across as soo creepy. It crosses so many boundaries. Why can't people respect that someone is not interested in you? This guy is especially delusional
Bruh that fuckin nuts. Sometimes I swipe left on somebody I like just cause I’m afraid to talk to them in case they swipe right on me.
Hi, doobs. I just took a break from my job making balloon animals for sick kids where I make tons of money and grandmas touch my bum.
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Hang on someone just called me for a gig, because I’m so popular and make so much money
You’re gonna think this is so funny I bet.
But anyway, sorry for being creepy. You wanna go out?
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Ah, mayhaps I finally found you! Just let me explain in a 10 minute voice memo!
Bro used (24f) redditor
was gonna say this! it happens to me 2-3 times a week! I was shocked to see how viral this went cuz when I first saw the tweet I was like "oh haha, regular dating app creep cool" and moved on like it was normal 🥲
There is NO WAY this dude is NOT a narcissist holy shit
RT 😭
Absolutely! It's so ew
Nooo, he’s a NiCe GuY. He said so!
The straight disbelief/horror on nick's face when they finish the last voice mail! It's the whole video right there
(17:20) “I’ve had to block a few numbers of crazy people who didn’t know they were crazy!”
the lack of self-awareness is just-
He IS self-aware thats why he mentioned "crazy people who didn't know they were crazy" to try and put distance between himself and "those crazy people"
@@tellmewill He failed. Miserably
I think the goal was to come off as highly desired, like he's constantly being swarmed by women who desperately want to date him.
no wonder he hates cats. cats have boundaries. he clearly is not able to respect them.
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8:49 "holy fuck this person is my kind of weird, and I just figured if I talk to myself like an asshole for a couple minutes, you'd probably feel the same as me" the DELULU
*stalks someone and messages them multiple times*
“hope this made you laugh and smile”
As an autistic who was not used to dating/flirting/interacting with people at all I became friends and briefly dated someone like this, and once they’re comfortable enough they brag quit a lot about the creepy ways they "put the effort in"
as a fellow autistic person... yeah. my ex told me 2 years into our relationship about a private account he used to journal his feelings for me BEFORE we started dating and it was all extremely detailed sexual fantasies or wishing violence against my current friend group at the time & family (for "stealing" me away from him)
i wish i could say i broke up with him after, but that was actually a few months later for a completely different reason. why do these people have to be so fucking weird
@@rendertownhub7000Jesus Christ, that's so scary
It really felt like a stranger coming to your house, taking off his shoes, put them on your table while taking the remote, looking at you smiling and tell you to sit next to them.
Every single word out of that dudes mouth was absolute agony. Forcing someone to listen to him ramble on about himself for hours should honestly be a new torture method.
24:17 I don't know why but nick just going absolutely bananas after ruining his joke while Dev trying to salvage it is such a mood.
Thank you bc i was rewatching this video for the sole purpose of rewatching that part and this comment saved me some time😁
That part is the most relatable thing I've ever seen Nick do
They're dynamic is so funny lmao
this person is definitive prove that confidence isn’t everything
That man has got to be a psychopath. Calling himself a “genuine, nice person” while everything about him is screaming disingenuous & negging a-hole is so unserious. I feel rly bad for the woman who received his messages, I would be horrified
there’s so many creeps now it’s just disgusting
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i feel like the same number of creeps have always existed, they just have more resources now
@@bonaparte6431exactly! And there's more ways to expose them, too
always have been
@@bonaparte6431 I think it's not because there aren't creeps back then but because back then they can get away cus of normalized patriarchal problems and misogyny, so most likely it's just straight-up sa with other people not condemning it😥.
i’m so glad you guys were as freaked out by the nickname thing as i was, ITS SO WEIRD to give a nickname to someone you just found on the internet by stalking them, it’s literally some Joe goldberg shit. the only people who call me by a nickname are my brother and my boyfriend, anyone else, no thanks.
I have had many men find me on my socials from dating sites when we didn't match. It's always so creepy and scary how much they go through to just send you weird messages.
That sounds absolutely terrifying. When I was in like 8th grade, I was in a collab group on TH-cam. I posted my first video and some girl commented on it that I was cute and then proceeded to search me up on Facebook and messaged me. I was so scared. That’s the closest I’ve ever been to experiencing something like that… but yeah that sounds absolutely terrifying
@@here151 It's nothing short of terrifying when people invade boundaries like that. It's especially disturbing when you have very little identifying info besides first name on anything. That girl had to have gone through some FBI shit to find you.
this kinda reminds me of a guy i went to school with who was suddenly standing in front of my house, in the middle of winter. it was really cold, anddddd i’d never really talked to him, let alone told him my address😀
@@poidalou that's a horror movie dude
And then the people you want to talk to will ghost you. Backwards out hereeee
that guy has very intense reddit youtuber/video essayist voice. like I feel like he should be explaining an ARG to me.
The synchronized reaction at his "I don't know if you've ever seen that Kay and Peele skit" is making me lose my mind
4:20 replaying this until the end of time
Nick’s genuinely very pained expression is exactly how I felt this whole time lmaoo this physically hurt to listen to
My autistic ass woulda thought he was genuine and just being super nervous because he saw me and just, idk, was swept off his feet. I would've been endeared, actually. I would've been like, "oh, someone who doesn't like the meeting people phase, and wants to at least go straight to friends!".
All the way until he said he thought she should've been boring because she was pretty. That right there just shattered it, and then he just starts spiraling downhill. It just keeps getting worse. Oh my god.
Broo stay safe!!! Make sure a friend or family member looks out for you, you’re vulnerable because you’re autistic and therefore an easy target to predators like the creep in the video.
bro i had the same thought! i actually dated someone like him because i thought she was just awkward and shy but really she was just fucking weird to me
@SapphicSapien Thanks for the concern, friend! But while I do give people the benefit of the doubt and try to be understanding probably more than I should, I'm also very aware that I _do_ that, and that I can be taken advantage of. But like I said earlier, I don't miss _all_ red flags - the instant the guy said he expected pretty girls to be boring, everything switched to "oh, this guy is just a manipulative asshole". I'm not _completely_ gullible, lmao!
But thank you for the reminder - it's easy to forget that being neurodivergent (and disabled) can actually _make_ me a target for those looking to abuse. I was diagnosed late in life, and my physical disabilities didn't really present until puberty and later, so sometimes it can be hard to remember all that comes with being neurodivergent and disabled, since I spent most of my life not thinking of myself that way.
It's hard to remember how that affects how _others_ perceive me, since so much of my journey is rewiring how _I_ perceive _myself,_ y'know? So genuinely, thank you for the reminder that people might target me _specifically because_ of those aspects, because they think I'm vulnerable. I needed that reminder!
@nalani5333 May we someday find someone who truly is just so enamored with us that they lose all social decorum, and not manipulative assholes! 🥂🥂
i thought i was the only person who THINKS LIKE THIS
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When he says “You’re easily in the top 3” bio’s I’ve seen its so weird like I can’t even imagine what insane self insert fan-fiction ballad he sent the others was.
I saw this on twitter yesterday and wasted 2 hours of my life just going through that thread it was insane
What's the @ of the poster?
@@indieoregano the link to the thread is in the description
same omg it was shocking
@@indieoregano as that other person said it’s linked in the description but the og persons @ is quelsee
@@kunpunko love ur pfp i had a crush on her when i was little lol
Men do this ALL THE TIME and its so fucking creepy; its the online equivalent to trying to get attention from women who have their headphones on, that are obviously ignoring them, and insist anyways.
I’d argue it’s specifically the type of guy who’d actually grab your headphones off your head so you have to talk to him. And then when you ask for them back, he plays a little « game » (you didn’t consent to) that basically involves putting your headphones out of your reach while he giggles and rambles about how adorable it is that you’re shorter than him and how cute you look when you’re angry.
And then he says « I’ll give them back if you give me your number/call me « daddy »/go on a date with me » 🤮
@@noidea4254 men make me more bisexual every single day 🙄
I’ve unmatched with people on dating apps & had them track me down on social media. Thankfully, I no longer have dating apps or social media, so good riddance.
he was already awful & as soon as he said he hated cats i knew he was even worse. it’s one thing if cats just aren’t your thing, but the type of person that feels the need to proclaim they hate cats 100% display signs of sociopathy.
no actually like what did the cats ever do to u?
bffr
@@alyssa01825check out how many serial killers started out by hurting cats specifically
Yep, because cats can sense the bullshit on guys like him wayyy more than dogs. Cats form bonds with humans through mutual respect.
@@sora1498 they weren't impresed by his voice and storytelling, furry bastards
Men: Dating is so hard for men. Women have it so easy.
Also men: STALKING WOMEN LITERALLY ALL THE TIME
I had heard these “voice notes” before on Twitter, but you guys emphasized something I didn’t even notice last time: he claims he won’t engage with people who ACTUALLY matched with him if they dare to start with just a “hey”….but will do all of whatever this is for someone who didn’t swipe on him.
Also love the typical slight “neg” of “you’re definitely top 3” - even when you’re risking it all to be a creep to a woman, she can’t be number 1, always gotta have other options
the crazy thing abt the notebook is that noah literally threatens to kill himself if she doesn’t go out with him!!
I've never seen the notebook, does he really? I hate when people use suicide to manipulate people. As someone who has been suicidal, and had people use it against me; it makes me sick.
@@BearlyAiden yes, he hangs off a ferris wheel until she agrees to go on a date with him
@@kate2706 that is fucking gross
Love Culture is so messed up.
@@kate2706how u leave out that she was literally on a date? He interrupted her date with a suicide attempt/coercion to get her to dump the other guy
I've never been happier to be ugly and obese, we don't get messages like this. Godspeed to you pretty girls
Bruh I was just thinking the same thing
Bruh this comment 💀
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it's all fun and games until you find some fucker who won't even care about that
You’d be surprised
My guy joined the dating app where he specifically can't do this and then found the creepiest way to do it anyway. Absolutely insane.
I am on so much Xanax right now and I don't even have words for how underhanded, stress inducing, and all over backhanded these compliments and voice memos are. I legit feel insane.
*Edit:* I am no longer on a bunch of Xanax and all of these messages make me want to chew on plywood and personally seek this guy out to scream at him. No substance to the screaming just, like, rollercoaster screaming.
I wish I was on a bunch of Xanax watching this. I'm horrified.
TH-cam COMMENT OF THE YEAR😂 idk you but the edit killed me
21:23 MISSISSAUGA?? Oh no he’s in Ontario, I didn’t expect him to name a nearby city lmao😭
this is the type of guy who will then turn around and say “women never want the nice guy”
Out of everything, his biggest red flag was saying cats suck. That’s all I need to know about his personality.
i love the friendship between dev and nick. when nick stumbled on his words during his "lock me up" joke and dev immediately just went "nooo! it was funny, it was good, it was good!" was so sweet. best duo.
he is talking with all the personality, cadence and delusion of joe goldberg’s monologues from You. like this literally all sounds like it went through a team of scriptwriters😭
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY??
i’m TERRIFIED bc two toxic exes of mine (one of whom was sexually abusive, the other was emotionally & physically abusive for 3yrs) are fully capable of doing some creepy/whack foolery like this…
i recognize many red flags from the words and behaviors of this mannn it’s crazy bro
AND both of these exes would claim stuff like “dislikes: bigots etc” and like false green flags bc they might know what is socially acceptable for some women but are actually v misogynistic ughhhh
thanks for the likes!! i feel seen uwu
Mhm. The "bigots are bad" line doesn't trick me anymore, I need to analyze dudes further. Just saying they're feminists or whatever is just some learned line they feed women now to try to trick them into bed
Yeah, rather than simply saying bigoty=bad :(, i try to make it clear that I'm like. An extreme woke lefty, im trans, im gay, I'm poly, like if you can't get down with some socialist revolution, then I'm not into it.
*and yet* guys who really hate minorities will still try to come to my profile and pretend like all of that is fine until we are close enough for them to try to change every single one of those core things that I explicitly said are non-negotiable. It's extremely telling that dudes who genuinely believe horrible shit about minorities, women, etc. are willing to forego everything they believe in just to get laid. It's a sign that either they're just too shallow to stick to their guns and own their idiot shit, or they don't actually believe in the bs they're repeating but are intentionally using it as a neg to make you insecure and intimidate you.
@@ohshiditsgriff2793I've explicitly said in my bio that I won't date any conservatives and yet some still message me. Like can you not read sir??
19:20 Bringing up The Notebook like it's a cute, romantic movie and not a toxic trainwreck is the biggest red flag 🤢
There is definitely some people who decide to be creepy. I mean, I added a guy on snap because I felt like being a little extroverted, and for like fifteen minutes we sent ceiling picks to each other. Then out of NOWHERE, he sends a snap asking for nudes. Like, does he think I have no dignity, like I don’t even know you and I wouldn’t even feel comfortable doing that in a romantic relationship, but like I don’t even know him. It was just a really like face palm moment that some people don’t respect others on a basic level.
Also, I love these videos and they bring me a lot of happiness, I am really glad you got into this kind of content because it is informative and fun to watch!
The world has punished me so much for believing people in good faith. I've decided to give a guy my number even if we didn't talk that much and we sent just a few text message and he was like "alright can we get a date then" and argued with me when I said I still didn't know him enough.
I told him I was gonna stop talking to him and he harassed me still asking for a date.
They are ruining everything for everyone. They make it impossible to be spontaneous and carefree. And for what, like that shit doesn't even work.
@@ArturGlass.C I am really sorry that happened, sending love. Nobody deserves that kind of harassment and I hope you are doing better ❤
This is the type of person who WILL NOT SHUT UP in a convo and barely ever lets you talk, like he's making it so easy to hate him
dont care didn't ask about all that personal bullshit
Seriously, people who never let the other person talk are the worst. Usually just self-absorbed assholes who couldn't care less about the other person.
AN ALMANAC. This guy is gonna tell her what the weather's gonna be doin during harvest season of 2032.
That guys needs a therapist and some friends.... like random women online don't need this. Heck random strangers online of any gender don't need this!
I can’t wait to watch nick sit in a chair with Dev Lemons
NEVERMIND I regret watching this. This was an awful experience
this a whole story arc in three sentences
HKELPPPP
Cant wait to watch them tongue each other
I can't wait to cross the Atlantic aboard the great S. S. Titanic...
I thought I was completely desensitized to cringe, I wasn't able to feel it for a couple of years now. This guy brought the feeling back. Damn, it's a weird feeling.
Listen, I've had some cringe AF moments in online dating. Some truly "Dear God what was I thinking, I want to die that I did this even like 10+ years ago" moments (yeah I'm p. old) but none of it was even in the same UNIVERSE as this. What the HELL.
This simultaneously makes me hate the part of myself that was ever even a fraction of a percent like that and also really glad that I was never THAT GUY even at my worst.
Also it disturbs me that so many dudes like this exist. So, so many.
The way he convinced himself that it will work out so he thinks a straightforward approach is perfect it's kinda sad, it looks like one of those incels advices on dating
It's not sad when you realize he's done this several times and targets young women on purpose. Its all a manipulation tactic and the "this is kind of pathetic" is part of the gimmick. He doesn't want an actual relationship, he wants an easily manipulated child bearer to keep in his house as one of his many "accomplishments" at best and a "stable" at worst.
@@karnagekarnival5127 you're right😭 I just realized know, his sexual comments covered as jokes are already telling too, ig irl I would've just assumed that he's a weirdo
This would've made a perfect "you cringe you smoke" episode.
The same thing happened to my housemate after she didn't match with a guy. Then, he applied to rent a room with us.
that is insanity omfggggg
That is truly terrifying. Probably the last guy you want having your address
At 11:20 when he said "ridonkulous" i had to pause the video and physically walk around in a circle to stop myself from regressing to monkey status and throwing my feces
I know this was from last year, but I still love hearing dramatic readings of this creeps text messages.
He literally never mentions a single specific thing about her and only vaguely mentions her bio? Seems like a fill in the blank script.
This is a script. He has said this almost exact same thing to at least 10+ other women.