Rightfully so he is a struggle heroe and it doesn't come as a surprise that a DA member would find it comical or be amused by the African struggles of the past. Your heroes are blood thirsty Freemasons that worship Satan in the form of money or capital
Everytime a South African politician starts a sentence with a deep sigh and followed by "well...eh", just know he's about to dribble you with tall tales
The arrogance and smugness of Yengeni beggars belief. It’s amazing that he thinks so highly of himself. Zero integrity, zero credibility. He gives off the air that he’s superior to those around him. Hawk tua!
He thinks he's the cat's whiskers. In my book he lacks integrity and credibility. Corrupt to the core a RET believer that's self-serving... I never take him serious like all the looters from his party... Same WhatsApp group...
But what's more upsetting, are the people who keep entertaining these clowns. I mean this guy is corrupt as hell, he was convicted in a court of law of corruption and went to jail for it. He's a convict. Even while in jail, he continued violating prison laws, allowed to go home on weekends to drink and drive, insult and assault police officers etc. But he's on tv playing my High, mighty and the guardian of morals and integrity. The problem are the people who keep listening to and massaging these clowns. That's why Africa is not progressing, because we allow clowns like these to lead us.
In South Africa criminals are called STALWARTS , even his body language says it all that their ANC was NEVER about the interests of the masses this is so sad 😭😭😭
Last time I saw this comrade he was driving an unlicensed Maserati convicted 3 times for drunken driving (pardoned by our "honest" Cyril once) or hewould have and should have gone to jail, again. What's scary is this guy represents the best the ANC had to offer, and now the MK has to offer.
Mike, I tried bro. Got as far as 22.41...kudos to u for asking the tough questions, and maintaining your composure. I cant help but feel that Yengeni's victim status following his sentence was the clearest signal up to that point of how the 'liberation' fairytale would end 😢
Oom Tony is a well trained operative. Tradecraft was demonstrated in this conversation. There is still hope for the Charterist movement. The same people that corrupted the ANC are behind Steinheist and the search for the Apartheid Trillions. He did not give anything away. there first needs to be regime change in Eswatini for all these shenanigans to bubble to the surface. Standardbank will not allow that .
One thing appreciate about this episode, Mr Yengeni is pointing out things and lack of integrity within the ANC. Let’s agree there is a lot happening within the ANC. When he says ANC attracted people who wanted ANC for themselves to advance their own interests.. I think he is correct, looking at what is happening in country you can tell certain things are covered by high powers..
A difficult interview by the looks of it, walking on eggs is what I perceive. Mr Yengeni is not being forthright either, carefull not to show his true feelings.
South Africa is short of true leaders period. When there is a leader who puts South Africa, and all it's people, from all walks of life, religions, races etc, front and centre, then I will vote for that person. After 30 years of "freedom" SA is still 100% divided by race, and ethnicity. It is now a gangster state, and as the fish rots from the head down, so does SA. There is a leadership void. SImple. Talk lots, promise more and deliver absolutely nothing. Every single competitive advantage this country once had is gone. The chances of recovery without leadership is.... zero.
@@andrewgreathead8003 ramaphosa educated wealthy moderate but KEEPS MONEY in sofas. As if that's not enough, the same moralistic sophisticated civilized DA stay SILENT. The constitutionalist GNU freeloaders do not scrutinise the NPA decision NOT TO PROSECUTE??? Who can trust the legal and moral stance of the GNU???!!!
But remember your apartheid government never put South Africa and ALL its people first, it put the so called 'Whites' first. It threw us in dungeons. Remember the 'WHITES ONLY' signs all over the country, be it beaches,bus stops, schools,toilets and many other areas of interest? Even today 2/3 of this country's GDP is syphoned to the US, UK and the West. At the JSE top 500 companies are foreign owned, sucking billions if not trillions of this country's wealth to the countries I've mentioned above. You still control our economy and you use these so called leaders you are complaining about as pons, control them, they are your stooges. Those who stand against you are silenced , sent to jail, you ,from no where create serious charges against them and make them look bad. You forget that this is Africa, the land of Africans. Your divide, rule and conquer dirty tactics put us where we are today, remember that.
Yengeni explains the two problems of the ANC. Systemic corruption and a failure to redefine itself as a party of government which is a different mind set and needs different skills than a liberation movement. These are the two reasons that sink these African parties that have done the same thing as them. They almost had it right with Mbeki.
For the first time someone is telling the truth about Mandela’s legacy. He did more damage than any of the presidents that came after him with Ramaphosa being second on that list
You must read history. The ANC won most of their demands in codesa. Go to archives and read the codesa minutes, in Pretoria archives, cape town and elsewhere. Tony is a bitter politicians, he doesn’t care about the truth. The problem of the ANC was not of codesa or Mandela making but the economic policy they chose in 1994 to date. They chose the markets neoliberal policy framework. Tony is the least of the people you must listen to on proper politics. Listen to him only if you want to hear his personal story with apartheid. In exile he was never considered a thinker, he led nothing and has never done or said anything constructive.
In South Africa if you want to be listened you must talk bad about Zuma then you are hero,but talking inyani about Mandela sold us then you stupid why? Because that nonsense Mandela is the reason we are in this mess
Was this not one of the early thieves who got caught and sent to jail for corruption… How can you even invite this corrupt comrades to speak…Fast losing respect for this podcast…Mike SHAME….
I would rather see what Yengeni has to say out in the open than dodge alternative media like these crooks have done for the past three decades. They've normally only spoken to State-owned Media like SABC where their own ideology & agendas have never been questioned or criticised. I'm glad Mike had the guts to invite him on & question him. You can see he's mostly answering dishonestly, but nonetheless, at least he made an appearance.
@@biko8229 fighting for what freedom ? Does not seem if any "freedom" fighters have had any success. They are still fighting. They are just richer and fatter.
First comment. I've heard about Toni for decades and have been wondering what kind of a man he is. Thank you owners of this chanel for bringing him on. Sseond comment: He's is brilliant, a mature politian with the relevant experience and is more than qualified to authoritatively speak about the ANC. Third comment. On problems with the ANC, throughout this discussion is a trend (a discerning from Toni's perspective) each time the ANC faced challenges, the leadership, he mentioned OR Tambo and Mandela for instance, would call everyone to a meeting, they would discuss issues and come to a resolve and action taken thereafter. Cleary from Toni's dissection, The ANC is currently devoid of astute leadership to steer itself from the self created mess it is finding itself in. There is a leadership crisis in the ANC
For the life of me I have NEVER, NOT ONCE heard some sense coming out of Yengeni's mouth. I vaguely remember him coming in and out of court defending his corruption which he was ultimately convicted of and spent some time in jail till Zuma found a way to get him out. That's about all I can remember about this guy. I suppose it's the Mandela negotiations that made him corrupt. Go figure...
At least he did go in and out of courts just like Zuma, what about Ramaphosa, why is he so much protected? I mean he committed very serious crimes, by far worse than those committed by Zuma and Tony put together but he hasn't seen a court door.
@dlaminisabelo2482 He will ultimately. Fortunately icala aliboli so his day will certainly come. He has some serious questions to answer that one, he will be exposed as soon as this marriage of convenience with the DA subsides.
If u remember what Smuts Ngonyama says,he says he never join Anc to suffer,so when Presisend Cyril take over and correct that ,,,they acussed him of being a Capitalist what a shame.😮
Indeed u asked a brilliant question that what's happening now isn't not a betrayal of those who fought for freedom unfortunately even Yengeni is rotten so he won't give u a clear answer
Yengeni must NOT blame MANDELA or name him as a sellout for thé suffering of South africans. Yengeni's comment exposé HIS shallow knowledge on politics. Thé negotiation for this neo-colonialism WAS started by ENEMY agent no 1 Oliver Tambo. As thé Président of Uganda put It " when we were holding thé centre with other AFRICAN Leaders in Africa such as Machel, Nujoma, and OTHERS Museveni continued, "MANDELA WAS in J'ail AND TAMBO WAS SITTING IN LONDON". Tambo through thé other BRITISH spies Ensured that the Armed struggle does NOT take place and MANY MK membres were either KILLED or jailed by Tambos gestapo. The attempt by thé BRITISH GOVERNMENT to DESTROY thé rallying name of MANDELA Has FAILED and HIS legacy will remain !!
No, I'm afraid that's a cop-out. It's not SARS and the Reserve Bank that are singularly responsible. The "party" itself is responsible to ensure that misdeeds are addressed to the letter of the law. These acts are not prosecuted and when they are it's under a corrupt system. People are freed for high blood pressure for goodness sake.
Our true struggle heros were assinated Robert sobukwe,chris hani,steve biko may they continue rest in peace we are in trouble because of their passing god help us.
I wonder if all those heroes would be still be heroes. Think of Jacob Zuma, if he died before 1994, would be seen as hero. In July 2021, 350. People died, and he never stop people and billions of rands lost from business and jobs. I'm not sure if I should believe heroes who never tested power. Even Yengeni would be regarded as hero if he didn't live to sure his true colours.
@@mondlintshangase1671 just imagine the era they would have ushered in had we allowed them to whisk President Zuma to jail then, without trial. We were practically back in apartheid what with a wanton jailing of a President without trial, I don't see how a man stays the implementation of apartheid regimen twice in his lifetime and is not considered an ascended hero, if there ever was such a term.
Suit yourself, we are watching and will watch till the end. This interview isn't meant to give you hope, after all you are a beneficiary of the cruel and repugnant sysytem that he fought against.
@@dlaminisabelo2482 and that's the problem - people like Yengeni is using a repugnant system to justify another repugnant system. A criminal act does not make a freedom fighter.
"The South African state is relatively mediocre in the best-known “Corruption Perception Index” ranking of 180 countries’ administrations (including politicians), compiled by Berlin-based Transparency International. In contrast, during the 2010s the PwC “economic crime and fraud” reports revealed that South Africa’s corporations were considered the worst in the world in general and - in the 2014 survey - also in the categories of money laundering, bribery and corrupion, procurement fraud, asset misappropriation and cybercrime.". Professor Patrick Bond Corruption is a South African problem & should be addressed as such. This is not to defend the ANC, every corrupt comrade should be locked up, but to claim it's easy is misleading. ANC corruption is bad, but the private sector makes the same ANC look like nuns...
Mr yengeni thanks to Mandela failure at negotiations you became a rich man overnight with a Merc and you served a fraction of your prison sentence because Mandela failed to negotiate
Mr Yengeni you either take a position for or against what is happening in the country now politics wise. If people don't want a GNU it's correct for them to let their frustration known. You should be commending the people for their courage to ventilate their frustrations. All that is missing is a like minded leader to take a lead and guide them in a way to attain their goals.
Yengeni was in Prison in Malmesbury with a father of one of my sons friends. These guys were ploughing fields for farmers while Yengeni was jolling with his having parties in prison. She stayed there often
@@FareedLoyisoI would imagine it was Mandela version2. The original Mandela died quite early on.... Was he killed because he wouldnt go according to plan?
There is a flip side to this statement. The ANC's policies & corrupt activities post Mandela has failed SA. The focus should be on the ANC's failed governance which is clearly reflected on the last election results.
I just wonder what would have happened if for instance an Apartheid Military commander or any leading Apartheid figure was the one brutally murdered just like Chris Hani was?
It’s never about the amount. Theft is theft. What Tony doesn’t say, is why he got that substantial discount, how Zuma benefited and how Tony was willing to take the fall for Zuma on that case. Tony entered into a plea agreement on the charge of fraud, which means he accepted that he was guilty on the charge.
Tony is dreaming, on the one hand he says Zuma's mk is not the cause, on the other hand he says the demise is from within. He forgets Zuma did this new party when he was a member of ANC. Now how do you reconcile the two?
Tony can't be led by the present president because Tony is more knowledgeable about struggle than our current president the suffering in exile are unknown those conferences held in Zambia and other countries he wasn't there Zuma s flop was the engagement with the Gupta's finish and klaar
There are many nonentitues who play a role of being the think tanks of SA. Many of these people have a benefit of hindsight now and play as though they could do better things if ybry were in the shoes of the then leaders. I was old nd mature enough then and none of these spo called tgink tanks now matter then.These ones deseve to be ignored
What good is this revaluation gonna do, we knew all along that they negotiated in bad faith for the nation, yet the very same negotiaters they became well off. But the masses remain destitute. It was clear that we trusted people who where only interested in being included in the economy of the country and not the freedom and the well-being of the whole South Africans. The libations of the masses is just a mockery, how can you be free when only a number of people enjoys the fruits of freedom and yet not uhuru to the masses. Surprisingly the masses are murmuring the disingenuous of the elected, yet happy to receive a mere R 370. While the few elected rake in millions for themselves if not billions.
It is becoming fashionable for former MK members to rubbish negotiations which Hani endorsed. He did because of discipline. But those who made money from Mandela’s change are now rubbishing it. No honesty in these claims.
Tony yengeni went to jail because he was convicted of corruption. Madiba went to jail because he fought apartheid. What did tony do for black people? What did he build or create? Nothing nada nix fokol. He doesnt deserve a platform or anything
I'm so sorry to appear this negative... but 😂. I'm tired of hearing about the ANC "conferences ". There are people suffering in this country and they're out there drinking fine scotch and eating fine food in these "conferences" and coming home with absolutely no evidence of change or progress for the people.
At Mandela negotiations gave you a plum job as ANC Chief in a democratic parliament and top of the Mercedes SUV. I don't know if you know south-africa situation then!
He failed the ANC his a popularity seeker not a person that wanted to work to better the lives of the people who voted for the ANC so he shouldn’t point fingers at others because they are pointing back at him big time
Tony Yengeni has long expired. As he is still the member, he like many others will undergo Renewal workshops as long as he remains the member of the ANC.
@thepantheoncon Negotiating was not a problem, the problem was negotiating from a position of ignorance and weakness. The ANC were too eager, they were ill prepared when they came to the table. They left out some of the best and astute thinkers like uMAM WINNIE. That woman was a warrior, an INTELLECTUAL POWERHOUSE and MASTER STRATERGIST, she could see right through the games that were being played, but the old men were jealous of her profile and power so the sidelined her, Madiba included.
We know the victims of 1976,the cradock 4,the 1980s states of emergencies, real soldier Solomon Mahlangu was hanged at the gallows,and the ultimate assassination of Chris Hani, the boipatong massacre etc.and who are the perpetrators of those atrocities with no response from the so called mk military wing of the anc,no single bullet was shot in the direction of the Union Building where the Vlakplaas Commanders were at,by the hard core criminals like Yengeni and Zuma still the audacity to lecture us about military operations 😅😂 They can't show us one grave of white person killed as a result of their military work even if it wasa white hoppo...
These guys they portrayed themselves as heroes meanwhile they just useless
And deeply corrupt😂😂😂
Rightfully so he is a struggle heroe and it doesn't come as a surprise that a DA member would find it comical or be amused by the African struggles of the past.
Your heroes are blood thirsty Freemasons that worship Satan in the form of money or capital
not just useless BUT THIEVES
Cowards of note, real thugs
@dlaminisabelo2482 please note
Everytime a South African politician starts a sentence with a deep sigh and followed by "well...eh", just know he's about to dribble you with tall tales
It's rehearsed on those phalaphala sofas
The arrogance and smugness of Yengeni beggars belief. It’s amazing that he thinks so highly of himself. Zero integrity, zero credibility. He gives off the air that he’s superior to those around him. Hawk tua!
He thinks he's the cat's whiskers. In my book he lacks integrity and credibility. Corrupt to the core a RET believer that's self-serving... I never take him serious like all the looters from his party... Same WhatsApp group...
You spit on his thang?😂
No honor amongst THIEVES!
What about ramaphalaphala?
But what's more upsetting, are the people who keep entertaining these clowns. I mean this guy is corrupt as hell, he was convicted in a court of law of corruption and went to jail for it. He's a convict. Even while in jail, he continued violating prison laws, allowed to go home on weekends to drink and drive, insult and assault police officers etc. But he's on tv playing my High, mighty and the guardian of morals and integrity. The problem are the people who keep listening to and massaging these clowns. That's why Africa is not progressing, because we allow clowns like these to lead us.
In South Africa criminals are called STALWARTS , even his body language says it all that their ANC was NEVER about the interests of the masses this is so sad 😭😭😭
A lot of us knew that all along. Took 30 years for the rest to start waking up. Maybe too late.
@@godfreyberry1599no honor amongst THIEVES
@@godfreyberry1599 the masses must suffer enough to stop voting for black leaders on the basis of PROMISES only
@dlaminisabelo2482 please note
You just hated them for their skin color and not for any other reason.@godfreyberry1599
They had focused on protecting individuals within the ranks of the ANC and stealing government resources, forgetting about building this country.
Good to hear from all politicians and keep an open mind
Borders on masochism
Last time I saw this comrade he was driving an unlicensed Maserati convicted 3 times for drunken driving (pardoned by our "honest" Cyril once) or hewould have and should have gone to jail, again. What's scary is this guy represents the best the ANC had to offer, and now the MK has to offer.
They have millions of lunatics called 'voters' behind them
Imagine a Maserati where did he get the money to buy that car Hmmmm 👎👎
If you were to be honest, who is the biggest thief and most heavily conflicted between Tony and Ramaphosa?
They must respect the way /culture of the ANC? - accept the lying, cheating and stealing culture of the ANC? Really?
@@mabaker391 ANC has culture!?
A=Arrogance
N=Nepotism
C=Corruption
That's ANC for you guys
Mike, I tried bro. Got as far as 22.41...kudos to u for asking the tough questions, and maintaining your composure. I cant help but feel that Yengeni's victim status following his sentence was the clearest signal up to that point of how the 'liberation' fairytale would end 😢
Oom Tony is a well trained operative. Tradecraft was demonstrated in this conversation. There is still hope for the Charterist movement. The same people that corrupted the ANC are behind Steinheist and the search for the Apartheid Trillions. He did not give anything away. there first needs to be regime change in Eswatini for all these shenanigans to bubble to the surface. Standardbank will not allow that .
@@Shupstarr Conspiracy theories collapsed the ANC 😂😂😂
@@MzamoAdoons-d6nthey never believe in a collapse, infinite resurrections, what with millions of inebriated voters
@@MzamoAdoons-d6n Ago baba nko kgompa lerete ? Oareng jaanong ?
One thing appreciate about this episode, Mr Yengeni is pointing out things and lack of integrity within the ANC. Let’s agree there is a lot happening within the ANC. When he says ANC attracted people who wanted ANC for themselves to advance their own interests.. I think he is correct, looking at what is happening in country you can tell certain things are covered by high powers..
I just couldn't finish this interview, just disgusted by these people
A difficult interview by the looks of it, walking on eggs is what I perceive. Mr Yengeni is not being forthright either, carefull not to show his true feelings.
Mr Yengeni is still angry and on that reality is that most old people still feel like that in our communities.
@@XolaniXaluvaWhy angry? The man involved in the arms deal? Remember the SUV named Yengeni? Angry? Are you serious? 🤔
They're praying for a new 'blesser' in the form of the DA ignoring phalaphala
Lying runs in their DNA😂😂😂
Must he say the things you want him to say or you were there when it all happened? Tell us what you saw happening please.
Tony Yengeni, missing the opportunity of looting 😂😂😂
Can't wait for part 2
South Africa is short of true leaders period.
When there is a leader who puts South Africa, and all it's people, from all walks of life, religions, races etc, front and centre, then I will vote for that person.
After 30 years of "freedom" SA is still 100% divided by race, and ethnicity. It is now a gangster state, and as the fish rots from the head down, so does SA.
There is a leadership void. SImple.
Talk lots, promise more and deliver absolutely nothing.
Every single competitive advantage this country once had is gone. The chances of recovery without leadership is.... zero.
@@andrewgreathead8003 ramaphosa educated wealthy moderate but KEEPS MONEY in sofas. As if that's not enough, the same moralistic sophisticated civilized DA stay SILENT. The constitutionalist GNU freeloaders do not scrutinise the NPA decision NOT TO PROSECUTE??? Who can trust the legal and moral stance of the GNU???!!!
But remember your apartheid government never put South Africa and ALL its people first, it put the so called 'Whites' first. It threw us in dungeons.
Remember the 'WHITES ONLY' signs all over the country, be it beaches,bus stops, schools,toilets and many other areas of interest?
Even today 2/3 of this country's GDP is syphoned to the US, UK and the West. At the JSE top 500 companies are foreign owned, sucking billions if not trillions of this country's wealth to the countries I've mentioned above.
You still control our economy and you use these so called leaders you are complaining about as pons, control them, they are your stooges. Those who stand against you are silenced , sent to jail, you ,from no where create serious charges against them and make them look bad.
You forget that this is Africa, the land of Africans. Your divide, rule and conquer dirty tactics put us where we are today, remember that.
The Cadres eat from that division.
Yengeni explains the two problems of the ANC.
Systemic corruption and a failure to redefine itself as a party of government which is a different mind set and needs different skills than a liberation movement.
These are the two reasons that sink these African parties that have done the same thing as them. They almost had it right with Mbeki.
Why must mkp leave ANC and want to co govern with it after, that's non sense.
For the first time someone is telling the truth about Mandela’s legacy. He did more damage than any of the presidents that came after him with Ramaphosa being second on that list
You must read history. The ANC won most of their demands in codesa. Go to archives and read the codesa minutes, in Pretoria archives, cape town and elsewhere. Tony is a bitter politicians, he doesn’t care about the truth. The problem of the ANC was not of codesa or Mandela making but the economic policy they chose in 1994 to date. They chose the markets neoliberal policy framework. Tony is the least of the people you must listen to on proper politics. Listen to him only if you want to hear his personal story with apartheid.
In exile he was never considered a thinker, he led nothing and has never done or said anything constructive.
Spot on, although I would say rama and thug mandela are tied for first place.
Amazing
Mbeki is the worse. He just made money for White Business and made himself a Billionaire via his wife
Thank heavens for the playback speed ability!
Brooo😂
Mandela opened the door to corrupt elements like Tony who felt some entitlement because they fought for liberation. He praises Zuma & Gupta's. Sies
What's wrong praising Zuma
He us the beneficuary if corruption.
In South Africa if you want to be listened you must talk bad about Zuma then you are hero,but talking inyani about Mandela sold us then you stupid why? Because that nonsense Mandela is the reason we are in this mess
@@phihlellotheone8979they want people to praise the nonsense Mandela
@MalibongweMnyipika then take yourself out now then you see that after you lined up your pockets with SA money and other means.
Was this not one of the early thieves who got caught and sent to jail for corruption…
How can you even invite this corrupt comrades to speak…Fast losing respect for this podcast…Mike SHAME….
At least he was a freedom fighter, unlike convicts like Gayton Mckenzie.
Better to get the stories from all sides than pander towards one we believe
Whilst land thieves are invited and given platform.
I would rather see what Yengeni has to say out in the open than dodge alternative media like these crooks have done for the past three decades. They've normally only spoken to State-owned Media like SABC where their own ideology & agendas have never been questioned or criticised. I'm glad Mike had the guts to invite him on & question him. You can see he's mostly answering dishonestly, but nonetheless, at least he made an appearance.
@@biko8229 fighting for what freedom ? Does not seem if any "freedom" fighters have had any success. They are still fighting. They are just richer and fatter.
First comment. I've heard about Toni for decades and have been wondering what kind of a man he is. Thank you owners of this chanel for bringing him on.
Sseond comment: He's is brilliant, a mature politian with the relevant experience and is more than qualified to authoritatively speak about the ANC.
Third comment. On problems with the ANC, throughout this discussion is a trend (a discerning from Toni's perspective) each time the ANC faced challenges, the leadership, he mentioned OR Tambo and Mandela for instance, would call everyone to a meeting, they would discuss issues and come to a resolve and action taken thereafter. Cleary from Toni's dissection, The ANC is currently devoid of astute leadership to steer itself from the self created mess it is finding itself in. There is a leadership crisis in the ANC
Notice how Mike moved away so quickly when Tony spoke of Phalaphala 😂😂
For the life of me I have NEVER, NOT ONCE heard some sense coming out of Yengeni's mouth. I vaguely remember him coming in and out of court defending his corruption which he was ultimately convicted of and spent some time in jail till Zuma found a way to get him out.
That's about all I can remember about this guy. I suppose it's the Mandela negotiations that made him corrupt. Go figure...
@@ronm4385 Mandela taught them to stash cash in sofas of phalaphala?
At least he did go in and out of courts just like Zuma, what about Ramaphosa, why is he so much protected? I mean he committed very serious crimes, by far worse than those committed by Zuma and Tony put together but he hasn't seen a court door.
@dlaminisabelo2482 He will ultimately. Fortunately icala aliboli so his day will certainly come. He has some serious questions to answer that one, he will be exposed as soon as this marriage of convenience with the DA subsides.
If u remember what Smuts Ngonyama says,he says he never join Anc to suffer,so when Presisend Cyril take over and correct that ,,,they acussed him of being a Capitalist what a shame.😮
Indeed u asked a brilliant question that what's happening now isn't not a betrayal of those who fought for freedom unfortunately even Yengeni is rotten so he won't give u a clear answer
Yengeni must NOT blame MANDELA or name him as a sellout for thé suffering of South africans. Yengeni's comment exposé HIS shallow knowledge on politics. Thé negotiation for this neo-colonialism WAS started by ENEMY agent no 1 Oliver Tambo. As thé Président of Uganda put It " when we were holding thé centre with other AFRICAN Leaders in Africa such as Machel, Nujoma, and OTHERS Museveni continued, "MANDELA WAS in J'ail AND TAMBO WAS SITTING IN LONDON". Tambo through thé other BRITISH spies Ensured that the Armed struggle does NOT take place and MANY MK membres were either KILLED or jailed by Tambos gestapo. The attempt by thé BRITISH GOVERNMENT to DESTROY thé rallying name of MANDELA Has FAILED and HIS legacy will remain !!
No, I'm afraid that's a cop-out. It's not SARS and the Reserve Bank that are singularly responsible. The "party" itself is responsible to ensure that misdeeds are addressed to the letter of the law. These acts are not prosecuted and when they are it's under a corrupt system. People are freed for high blood pressure for goodness sake.
Our true struggle heros were assinated Robert sobukwe,chris hani,steve biko may they continue rest in peace we are in trouble because of their passing god help us.
Discovered 30 years of WASTED votes
I wonder if all those heroes would be still be heroes. Think of Jacob Zuma, if he died before 1994, would be seen as hero. In July 2021, 350. People died, and he never stop people and billions of rands lost from business and jobs. I'm not sure if I should believe heroes who never tested power. Even Yengeni would be regarded as hero if he didn't live to sure his true colours.
@@mondlintshangase1671 just imagine the era they would have ushered in had we allowed them to whisk President Zuma to jail then, without trial. We were practically back in apartheid what with a wanton jailing of a President without trial, I don't see how a man stays the implementation of apartheid regimen twice in his lifetime and is not considered an ascended hero, if there ever was such a term.
Land problem would have been resolved by now.
Hardly.
Best SON episode
We are very happy that you enjoyed it, you will enjoy the 2nd episode
I would rather not watch - the gentleman has nothing that would give me any hope.
and you see the need to comment
Don't watch then
@@mihlaliqoma9039 thanks.
Suit yourself, we are watching and will watch till the end. This interview isn't meant to give you hope, after all you are a beneficiary of the cruel and repugnant sysytem that he fought against.
@@dlaminisabelo2482 and that's the problem - people like Yengeni is using a repugnant system to justify another repugnant system. A criminal act does not make a freedom fighter.
"The South African state is relatively mediocre in the best-known “Corruption Perception Index” ranking of 180 countries’ administrations (including politicians), compiled by Berlin-based Transparency International. In contrast, during the 2010s the PwC “economic crime and fraud” reports revealed that South Africa’s corporations were considered the worst in the world in general and - in the 2014 survey - also in the categories of money laundering, bribery and corrupion, procurement fraud, asset misappropriation and cybercrime.". Professor Patrick Bond
Corruption is a South African problem & should be addressed as such. This is not to defend the ANC, every corrupt comrade should be locked up, but to claim it's easy is misleading. ANC corruption is bad, but the private sector makes the same ANC look like nuns...
No tony anc greed was the downfall, you should know you part of the greedy
I'm having a strong feeling he knows what happened to Chris Hannie
Let me watch Part 2
The best leader
In this day and age still blaming Apartheid and Mandela yet these madalas have been in power for 30 years suka kahleni ukusidakelwa
Mr yengeni thanks to Mandela failure at negotiations you became a rich man overnight with a Merc and you served a fraction of your prison sentence because Mandela failed to negotiate
He stole a lot of money, this one
Mr Yengeni you either take a position for or against what is happening in the country now politics wise.
If people don't want a GNU it's correct for them to let their frustration known. You should be commending the people for their courage to ventilate their frustrations. All that is missing is a like minded leader to take a lead and guide them in a way to attain their goals.
They did not succeed in addressing what Mandela was unable to accomplish in 30 years.
Tonny who killed Chris Hani we as Eastern Cape Cofimvaba residents we need to know
Who cares? Remembered for drunk driving.
It's what I've been saying _ fully agreeing with Mr Yangeni _ the Codase negotiation sold this country & Ramaphosa was chief negotiator 🤔😩🤷🏾♂️
BULL.
Yengeni was in Prison in Malmesbury with a father of one of my sons friends. These guys were ploughing fields for farmers while Yengeni was jolling with his having parties in prison. She stayed there often
De Klerk killed kids. He died attending openings of Parliament.
Drunkenness is next to madness.
Which Mandela?
Cloned one
@@FareedLoyisoI would imagine it was Mandela version2. The original Mandela died quite early on.... Was he killed because he wouldnt go according to plan?
No white man puts a black man face on his banknote(rand note) for being handsome
There is a flip side to this statement. The ANC's policies & corrupt activities post Mandela has failed SA. The focus should be on the ANC's failed governance which is clearly reflected on the last election results.
I just wonder what would have happened if for instance an Apartheid Military commander or any leading Apartheid figure was the one brutally murdered just like Chris Hani was?
Only ANC takes this man serious and fears him.
Yengeni is the supporter os Zuma period.
Where is part 2?
It’s never about the amount. Theft is theft. What Tony doesn’t say, is why he got that substantial discount, how Zuma benefited and how Tony was willing to take the fall for Zuma on that case. Tony entered into a plea agreement on the charge of fraud, which means he accepted that he was guilty on the charge.
Eh,Tony. He was the first person to start xenophobia when he said foreigners had attacked south africans in western cape
I do not know why do we call these criminals our heroes when they ran away during struggle, our heroes died while they were in exile.
Waiting for Part2
No hope in politicians
Continue to rest in peace Madiba
I love how these guys speak as if they stood a chance against the old military. They could only murder unarmed civilians.
Sthembiso...We Remember The Benz...How Did Azania Benefit From Your Benz???
We live in a false time line. Who fails ANC between gibson makhanda a Mandela look alike and Tatu Nelson Mandela?
Tony is dreaming, on the one hand he says Zuma's mk is not the cause, on the other hand he says the demise is from within. He forgets Zuma did this new party when he was a member of ANC. Now how do you reconcile the two?
Tony can't be led by the present president because Tony is more knowledgeable about struggle than our current president the suffering in exile are unknown those conferences held in Zambia and other countries he wasn't there Zuma s flop was the engagement with the Gupta's finish and klaar
Not true. Stealing of resource did. All those who were involved in corruption are saying that. All was well till 2007 or so.
There are many nonentitues who play a role of being the think tanks of SA. Many of these people have a benefit of hindsight now and play as though they could do better things if ybry were in the shoes of the then leaders. I was old nd mature enough then and none of these spo called tgink tanks now matter then.These ones deseve to be ignored
Mike I don’t see you uploading part 2. Your views aren’t ready for what he is about to share
this guy is speaking facts bro
What good is this revaluation gonna do, we knew all along that they negotiated in bad faith for the nation, yet the very same negotiaters they became well off.
But the masses remain destitute. It was clear that we trusted people who where only interested in being included in the economy of the country and not the freedom and the well-being of the whole South Africans. The libations of the masses is just a mockery, how can you be free when only a number of people enjoys the fruits of freedom and yet not uhuru to the masses.
Surprisingly the masses are murmuring the disingenuous of the elected, yet happy to receive a mere R 370.
While the few elected rake in millions for themselves if not billions.
It is becoming fashionable for former MK members to rubbish negotiations which Hani endorsed. He did because of discipline. But those who made money from Mandela’s change are now rubbishing it. No honesty in these claims.
Completely oblivious to the concepts of theft, corruption, justice, accountability, ethics, public servant, etc. Yes, pot.
30 wasted years!
The love of money is the root of all evil.
I read some of the comments first and decided not to even listen to this guy.
He is very scarce
Tony yengeni went to jail because he was convicted of corruption. Madiba went to jail because he fought apartheid. What did tony do for black people? What did he build or create? Nothing nada nix fokol. He doesnt deserve a platform or anything
He fought against apartheid....
@@innocentngcobo6072 if these are your leaders then your standards are low and you get what u deserve
I'm so sorry to appear this negative... but 😂. I'm tired of hearing about the ANC "conferences ". There are people suffering in this country and they're out there drinking fine scotch and eating fine food in these "conferences" and coming home with absolutely no evidence of change or progress for the people.
At Mandela negotiations gave you a plum job as ANC Chief in a democratic parliament and top of the Mercedes SUV. I don't know if you know south-africa situation then!
First dude caught for corruption in ANC maybe he failed his nation
Makes sick to the stomach useless and wasted time.
State organs are full of cadres, jeeezuz, this interview was infuriating.
I hate listening to these old ANC people
This guy is cracking the whip 😅
He was rooting for Mandela and Zuma knowing they are sellouts, so he himself is a sellout just like his leaders
Ya, he's heavyweight alright - endless KFC like the rest of them.
He failed the ANC his a popularity seeker not a person that wanted to work to better the lives of the people who voted for the ANC so he shouldn’t point fingers at others because they are pointing back at him big time
He couldn't ask the right questions, instead he asked the weak questions and no follow-ups
Poor
Mandela was a sellout. He knew axactly what happened to Chris Hani.
Tony Yengeni has long expired. As he is still the member, he like many others will undergo Renewal workshops as long as he remains the member of the ANC.
When they run out of sofas, they will stuff cash in the belly of a buffalo
It was a terrible mistake to negotiate. Absolutely unforgivable. I hope the pearly gates never admit of the wretches who floundered.
Yes so what would you have suggested instead of negotiating?
@nivob4076 the logical next step.
@@nivob4076 exactly always so enthusiastic, but the reality of war is def no joke
@@WarrenDovey no joke, but what to be done.
@thepantheoncon Negotiating was not a problem, the problem was negotiating from a position of ignorance and weakness. The ANC were too eager, they were ill prepared when they came to the table. They left out some of the best and astute thinkers like uMAM WINNIE. That woman was a warrior, an INTELLECTUAL POWERHOUSE and MASTER STRATERGIST, she could see right through the games that were being played, but the old men were jealous of her profile and power so the sidelined her, Madiba included.
Criminal is a heavyweight???nikhuluma umdzidzi kuphela nine
Was it not the time to move heaven nd earth like Hani to speak with one voice nd stop Mandela from selling out??? You sacrificed Chris.
Trained by the Red Army - pambili!!
The nation is tired of lip services; the young people need permanent jobs instead of useless history. 😮
I'm sure what, but' Tony Yengeni wanted to communicate here, but he dismally failed.
It started when u start stealing 😂😂😂😂
No, the ANC failed Nelson Mandela
What Did You Do For Us...We Dont Remember You...Please Don't Always Use Hani As A Stepping Stone To Political Opportunisim
We know the victims of 1976,the cradock 4,the 1980s states of emergencies, real soldier Solomon Mahlangu was hanged at the gallows,and the ultimate assassination of Chris Hani, the boipatong massacre etc.and who are the perpetrators of those atrocities with no response from the so called mk military wing of the anc,no single bullet was shot in the direction of the Union Building where the Vlakplaas Commanders were at,by the hard core criminals like Yengeni and Zuma still the audacity to lecture us about military operations 😅😂
They can't show us one grave of white person killed as a result of their military work even if it wasa white hoppo...
How come you give such an important airtime to a criminal? This man was imprisoned after the democratic dispensation.
He has served his times,we can learn something from this discussion.
You guys you are talking about the old dreams forget we are looking forward to GNU now forget about criminal's