@@GeekyPastimesmaybe they wanted to play them off against each other and see what was more popular. Sensible to focus on one as the other would be the only real competition. Great video - looking forward to the next one
Ok but see Red Death a great game but there where dumb glitches easy to fix but they refused. Would you buy a car that does not drives has it suppoost to because of a factory default, and not go back to the dealer to have it fixed or replaced or even given your money back ?
OK but like Red Death 2 had dumb glitches they refused to fix. If you would buy a car that has a factory default and does not drive has it should would you also not want it fixed or get your money back?
I don't want either game to be online. Stand alone single player is always better than single player with an online mode. Whatever resources they are expending on developing an online mode, are resources that are NOT going to the single player campaign. I'd rather a team focus on a singular vision rather than divert energy to get rich quck schemes like online and live service modes.
I think a big issue is the people who just buy the corporate cashgrab slop, companies will just keep making the bare minimum for maximum profits if people keep falling into the trap
Indeed since they started whit those shark carts its going really fast downhill. But yeah most of gamers are not the brightest people on the planet and they know it so they sell them crap ant laugh out loud and cash in on them.
I don't think any of us are ready for what GTA 6 will probably bring to the table, GTA 5 for me is one of the best games every made and apart from server issues at the start of GTAO overall that was insanely good fun. Anything Rockstar make is a masterpiece but I think GTA 6 will be like nothing we know in gaming right now. One reason (and there are mostly likely more) as to why RDR2O wasn't as good is the creation of party chat, Yeah the 360 had it but PS3 didn't so when GTAO launched on PS3 everyone was in game chat interacting with each other and that enhanced the experience so much more. Now everyone has party chat and also discord is integrated into console, and that's great but it has pretty much killed the social interaction in gaming which in games like GTA, is a huge part.
Actually the best of the whole franchise was San Andreas the follow ups where not that good. so i think people are going to be disappointed because they have to much of expectations about GTA 6.
Very interesting analysis. I found your argument that the biggest difference was the philosophy of not releasing a new product unless it was "above and beyond" the last entry, to the compelling
I agree. I recently just starting playing video games on Xbox series. I played Halo, Fortnite and Gta story mode and GTA online. GtA online is a lot of fun with plenty of things to do. I played other games after that but end up always going back to GTA online.
I think part of the problem with COD is that the player base doesn’t like change. Change too much and they get pissed that “this isn’t Call Of Duty anymore!” But yes. Less carbon copies and more innovative games would be nice. The craziest part is that there are studios that make a game for half a BILLION dollars and it’s full of bugs and doesn’t even run properly.
In my opinion i feel like when ppl always complain about another's players choice of vehicle or weapons it screams rage quitting i dont enjoy grieving just as much as the next person i think the flying broom can be a pain but you cant lie its pretty unique 😂 i stick with the riju, but we had way worse players like god mode, glitchers, false reporters, tired active players ppl who have done all the missions and dlc 's that quit just before the end of the the heist or mission
while I was sick over Christmas and New Year's, I played the second game of the Mass Effect series an PS4 via the Legendary Edition. I knew about those games and even knew a bit about plot and lore before I got the LE but playing ME1 for the first time around Christmas 2022 still blew me away. I don't think either game is a perfect 10, but the characters, world building and voice acting(!) are just so awesome. That universe deserves more content IMO.
me being more into sci-fi than fantasy may have contributed to me giving ME a chance where I wouldn't be interested in stuff like Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age
Really enjoyed this video, I think the analysis is spot on. Also stoked to personally play through gta 5 again this year in preparation. Or maybe even bust out my gta 2 disc... If I can find a CD drive that is. Lol
with red dead 2 and what went wrong with its online, it boils down to three things, Ego, Money and stupidity, Dan Houser fired the man who made rockstar great, Lezlie Benzies purely because of his ego and the fact that he was the lead gameplay man who remembered the games were supposed to be fun so in order to prove that he didnt need him, he rushed out red dead 2 before it was ready with some of the most shocking missing features I've ever seen in a rockstar game, in both its online and storymode where it was just mindless fetch quests and grinding, no duels same thing with the online, when the thing that made the game fun was its tone the ability to come on and chill, and rockstars katie Pica, the name attached to the online of gta online with its design and it, kept trying to find a money model to attach to it instead of playing into that and kept trying different things to appeal to the players with capitalae, the stupid camp hunting system with Crimps, and all that, while ignoring what made it fun pranking, pushing, fist fighting, hunting, chilling and the actually balanced movement speed that allowed the pvp to be fun, with it all getting ruined in an effort to appeal to people who grief in gta online to bring them over by bumping up the movement speed to be on par with that of gta online when they also removed the one perk of the perk card system, that disabled a broken part of the online that should have never been in there from the getgo, a flat out aimbot system from the storymode, dead eye and the tonics that feed it which just turned it into a boring grief fest that was used as a crutch to get around its god awful aiming mechanics on console, where it never chose the guy you were pointing or looking at and chose them at random, like it was really, geniunely bad, like you would be looking at someone on one side of the screen, with the cursor over it, and it would choose someone on the opposite side you didnt even know was there, and keep snapping back to them, no matter how much you redirected the camera properly , and they changed the defensive mode so you couldnt get into fist fights, push people off piers when they were fishing, which was super fun, but became reduntant with that stupid camp update made fishing pointless, as now that didnt count as food or prank people anymore without it kicking you out out of defensive, and making you super vunerable to dead eye which broke the mold of gta online, and made it fun to interact with people, instead opting to make it a safe space thing where you were more free in a game set in 2013 than 1899 and you cant even throw snow at people like you can in gta online, or even things in general like in gta 4, as imagine how funny it would have been to go full bully on mica and dutch in valetine like think fast chucklenuts and wamp! mud right in the eye lol as theirs so much potental in that, like I still want modders to go in and basically merge red dead and bully together, as theirs so much fun that could be had but rockstar just wasnt willing to put the work in, or look at what made the game fun, and their choices often on purpose broke that such as that annoying woman who sprays you for hunting now, and how the NPC's block your ability to power through them now in a fist fight, so that even fighting the NPC's are tedius now, as you'll get one throw in, they block, run off and shoot, instead of punch punch bam and having some fun which is really god damn sad as Red Dead Online is the first damn time I ever enjoyed the PVP in a rockstar game outside of those stupid game design flaws that would have been patched out in the old days, and they had to ruin it to appease a bunch of jackasses, and I'm still bitter about that like what the hell guys, like you see people wanting to revert gta online to the old days, I want to do that with red dead online to put it back to the pre camp update that fixed the game and made it fun, and leave it at that where hunting and pvp was geninely fun and a good way to make your money, which might be where all this pressure to release 6 is coming from, its all the ex RDO online people wanting to get back at it in the Lenoda wildlands and wetlands and start over with a game that's actually fun again
New call of duty's with their massive budgets and resources, they still reuse a ton of assets and basically make the same games every year. I heard MW3 still had all the MW2 files in the game because it was meant to be a DLC It's more of a culture/corporate issue than a resource issue
Me2029b still had the ghosts stuff in, it's not about being DLC, it's just how game engines work. Why replace things that work? Asset reuse isn't a problem
what if instead of putting the blame on one game people start opening their eyes and actually noticing the fact that almost every popular franchise has contributed something bad for gaming, not just the one they hate for some reason
@@GeekyPastimes *the other publishers haven't had a hit since before the pandemic Lol. a rising tide lifts all ships....GTA is the rising tide everyone needs* 👌
I never play online only story mode this because online is a rip off Rockstar has made really good games but in the same time they are extreem capitalists who don't care for there cliënt (the gamers ) And if players would just all together just out of protest would like not play online for lets say one week only story mode not online. Rockstar would have to change there greedy aggressive capitalizing on the back of gamers. But yeah western people have not this strengt to come together like lets say Islamic people can do because they have that Islam that binds them. Also one of the the reasons they are taking over the west but that's a other discussion. By the way there is one game not from rockstar that's at least has good has the best rockstar game, its called Cyberpunk and they are not so greedy has rockstar.
I’ve been playing this game since January 2014 and never spent a single penny on gta apart from buying it twice on Xbox 360 cos my disk stopped working and twice on ps4 and once for ps5 I have every in the game and 50m$ Literally u don’t need to buy shark cards
@@IDK123LOL That's cool but a lot off people are not that smart, and they really put in all there real money there like addicts and they should be protected from that shark cart system. I know you will think that's there problem. But other company's are starting to do the same and this will ( has already ) lead to lesser quality and difference variety of games..See like Cyberpunk that company made a great game made a great DLC with phantom liberty and and still making new patches something rockstar does not they let some dumb glitches in there games and refuse to patch them they are not so greedy. But such companies will disappear; at one moment the game market is al being sabotaged by that woke criminals like Baby inc. So if gamers don't going to unite against this gaming will be virtually death in the near future. Sorry for the long speech but its really important to revolt against this evolution.
It's an exceptional game and they seem to care. Im hoping 6 truly comes this year.
Its true its a good game but they don't care they only see dollars they don't respect there costumers.
Rockstar chose to invest and focus in GTA online instead of Red Dead. They only wanted one. It’s that simple
I'd love to see a documentary about what was going on in that time. It's almost weird they even tried with Red Dead Online
@@GeekyPastimesmaybe they wanted to play them off against each other and see what was more popular. Sensible to focus on one as the other would be the only real competition. Great video - looking forward to the next one
Ok but see Red Death a great game but there where dumb glitches easy to fix but they refused. Would you buy a car that does not drives has it suppoost to because of a factory default, and not go back to the dealer to have it fixed or replaced or even given your money back ?
OK but like Red Death 2 had dumb glitches they refused to fix. If you would buy a car that has a factory default and does not drive has it should would you also not want it fixed or get your money back?
I don't want either game to be online. Stand alone single player is always better than single player with an online mode. Whatever resources they are expending on developing an online mode, are resources that are NOT going to the single player campaign.
I'd rather a team focus on a singular vision rather than divert energy to get rich quck schemes like online and live service modes.
I think a big issue is the people who just buy the corporate cashgrab slop, companies will just keep making the bare minimum for maximum profits if people keep falling into the trap
Indeed since they started whit those shark carts its going really fast downhill. But yeah most of gamers are not the brightest people on the planet and they know it so they sell them crap ant laugh out loud and cash in on them.
I don't think any of us are ready for what GTA 6 will probably bring to the table, GTA 5 for me is one of the best games every made and apart from server issues at the start of GTAO overall that was insanely good fun. Anything Rockstar make is a masterpiece but I think GTA 6 will be like nothing we know in gaming right now.
One reason (and there are mostly likely more) as to why RDR2O wasn't as good is the creation of party chat, Yeah the 360 had it but PS3 didn't so when GTAO launched on PS3 everyone was in game chat interacting with each other and that enhanced the experience so much more. Now everyone has party chat and also discord is integrated into console, and that's great but it has pretty much killed the social interaction in gaming which in games like GTA, is a huge part.
Actually the best of the whole franchise was San Andreas the follow ups where not that good. so i think people are going to be disappointed because they have to much of expectations about GTA 6.
@kennyvr1392 your opinion* mine is that GTA 5 is one of the best games of all tims
@@LivindeadGaming Yes lucky the world would be a boring place if we all had the same taste and opinions😁
@@kennyvr1392 cool
@@kennyvr1392 Nah I'm cautious about GTA VI because of how V turned out, in terms of single-player content. Won't be letdown again.
Very interesting analysis. I found your argument that the biggest difference was the philosophy of not releasing a new product unless it was "above and beyond" the last entry, to the compelling
it's weird how few studios try to emulate rockstars formula
I agree. I recently just starting playing video games on Xbox series. I played Halo, Fortnite and Gta story mode and GTA online. GtA online is a lot of fun with plenty of things to do. I played other games after that but end up always going back to GTA online.
I think part of the problem with COD is that the player base doesn’t like change. Change too much and they get pissed that “this isn’t Call Of Duty anymore!”
But yes. Less carbon copies and more innovative games would be nice.
The craziest part is that there are studios that make a game for half a BILLION dollars and it’s full of bugs and doesn’t even run properly.
In my opinion i feel like when ppl always complain about another's players choice of vehicle or weapons it screams rage quitting i dont enjoy grieving just as much as the next person i think the flying broom can be a pain but you cant lie its pretty unique 😂 i stick with the riju, but we had way worse players like god mode, glitchers, false reporters, tired active players ppl who have done all the missions and
dlc 's that quit just before the end of the the heist or mission
while I was sick over Christmas and New Year's, I played the second game of the Mass Effect series an PS4 via the Legendary Edition. I knew about those games and even knew a bit about plot and lore before I got the LE but playing ME1 for the first time around Christmas 2022 still blew me away. I don't think either game is a perfect 10, but the characters, world building and voice acting(!) are just so awesome. That universe deserves more content IMO.
me being more into sci-fi than fantasy may have contributed to me giving ME a chance where I wouldn't be interested in stuff like Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age
Fantastic video mate massively agree with you
Really enjoyed this video, I think the analysis is spot on. Also stoked to personally play through gta 5 again this year in preparation. Or maybe even bust out my gta 2 disc... If I can find a CD drive that is. Lol
with red dead 2 and what went wrong with its online, it boils down to three things, Ego, Money and stupidity, Dan Houser fired the man who made rockstar great, Lezlie Benzies purely because of his ego
and the fact that he was the lead gameplay man who remembered the games were supposed to be fun
so in order to prove that he didnt need him, he rushed out red dead 2 before it was ready with some of the most shocking missing features I've ever seen in a rockstar game, in both its online and storymode
where it was just mindless fetch quests and grinding, no duels same thing with the online, when the thing that made the game fun was its tone
the ability to come on and chill, and rockstars katie Pica, the name attached to the online of gta online with its design and it, kept trying to find a money model to attach to it instead of playing into that
and kept trying different things to appeal to the players
with capitalae, the stupid camp hunting system with Crimps, and all that, while ignoring what made it fun
pranking, pushing, fist fighting, hunting, chilling and the actually balanced movement speed that allowed the pvp to be fun, with it all getting ruined in an effort to appeal to people who grief in gta online to bring them over by bumping up the movement speed to be on par with that of gta online
when they also removed the one perk of the perk card system, that disabled a broken part of the online that should have never been in there from the getgo, a flat out aimbot system from the storymode, dead eye and the tonics that feed it
which just turned it into a boring grief fest
that was used as a crutch to get around its god awful aiming mechanics on console, where it never chose the guy you were pointing or looking at
and chose them at random, like it was really, geniunely bad, like you would be looking at someone on one side of the screen, with the cursor over it, and it would choose someone on the opposite side you didnt even know was there, and keep snapping back to them, no matter how much you redirected the camera properly
, and they changed the defensive mode so you couldnt get into fist fights, push people off piers when they were fishing, which was super fun, but became reduntant with that stupid camp update made fishing pointless, as now that didnt count as food
or prank people anymore without it kicking you out out of defensive, and making you super vunerable to dead eye
which broke the mold of gta online, and made it fun to interact with people, instead opting to make it a safe space thing where you were more free in a game set in 2013 than 1899
and you cant even throw snow at people like you can in gta online, or even things in general like in gta 4, as imagine how funny it would have been to go full bully on mica and dutch in valetine
like think fast chucklenuts and wamp! mud right in the eye lol
as theirs so much potental in that, like I still want modders to go in and basically merge red dead and bully together, as theirs so much fun that could be had
but rockstar just wasnt willing to put the work in, or look at what made the game fun, and their choices often on purpose broke that
such as that annoying woman who sprays you for hunting now, and how the NPC's block your ability to power through them now in a fist fight, so that even fighting the NPC's are tedius now, as you'll get one throw in, they block, run off and shoot, instead of punch punch bam and having some fun
which is really god damn sad as Red Dead Online is the first damn time I ever enjoyed the PVP in a rockstar game outside of those stupid game design flaws that would have been patched out in the old days, and they had to ruin it to appease a bunch of jackasses, and I'm still bitter about that
like what the hell guys, like you see people wanting to revert gta online to the old days, I want to do that with red dead online to put it back to the pre camp update that fixed the game and made it fun, and leave it at that
where hunting and pvp was geninely fun and a good way to make your money, which might be where all this pressure to release 6 is coming from, its all the ex RDO online people wanting to get back at it in the Lenoda wildlands and wetlands and start over with a game that's actually fun again
I would have to agree with everything you said. Great video!
Fortnite ruined gaming it introduced battle passes and all these microtransactions
Dota 2 had the first pass in 2013 first microtransaction was in elder scrolls in 2006, not being salty but just fact checking.
@citywidsky9988 but fortnite popularised it
Warzone got all of us playing something else rn 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Warzone and this B06 engine is garbage. I stop playing the first week It came out for warzone. No I didnt buy B06 either.
Just wait. Rockstar gonna do it again with GTA 6. It will be the game goat
Corporate interests ruin gaming. Basically the whole gaming community is forcefully segregated into 3 groups, unless they have deep pockets.
The 'gaming' industry now makes me sad.
time to move on maybe then?
New call of duty's with their massive budgets and resources, they still reuse a ton of assets and basically make the same games every year. I heard MW3 still had all the MW2 files in the game because it was meant to be a DLC
It's more of a culture/corporate issue than a resource issue
Me2029b still had the ghosts stuff in, it's not about being DLC, it's just how game engines work. Why replace things that work? Asset reuse isn't a problem
It’s a masterpiece
what if instead of putting the blame on one game people start opening their eyes and actually noticing the fact that almost every popular franchise has contributed something bad for gaming, not just the one they hate for some reason
I'm not sure you watched the video, this is about how good GTA V is...
Favorite game of all time is The Last of Us 2. Opinion discarded.
Thanks for letting me know! We were all dying to hear about what you thought.
*GTA6 has to be a top 5 game of all time or it's a complete failure and it will kill console gaming for the foreseeable future* 👎
I don't see how it would affect other console games if it's a failure, the other publishers would probably be relieved!
@@GeekyPastimes *the other publishers haven't had a hit since before the pandemic Lol. a rising tide lifts all ships....GTA is the rising tide everyone needs* 👌
And Warzone killed COD
I never play online only story mode this because online is a rip off Rockstar has made really good games but in the same time they are extreem capitalists who don't care for there cliënt (the gamers ) And if players would just all together just out of protest would like not play online for lets say one week only story mode not online. Rockstar would have to change there greedy aggressive capitalizing on the back of gamers. But yeah western people have not this strengt to come together like lets say Islamic people can do because they have that Islam that binds them. Also one of the the reasons they are taking over the west but that's a other discussion. By the way there is one game not from rockstar that's at least has good has the best rockstar game, its called Cyberpunk and they are not so greedy has rockstar.
I’ve been playing this game since January 2014 and never spent a single penny on gta apart from buying it twice on Xbox 360 cos my disk stopped working and twice on ps4 and once for ps5
I have every in the game and 50m$
Literally u don’t need to buy shark cards
@@IDK123LOL That's cool but a lot off people are not that smart, and they really put in all there real money there like addicts and they should be protected from that shark cart system. I know you will think that's there problem. But other company's are starting to do the same and this will ( has already ) lead to lesser quality and difference variety of games..See like Cyberpunk that company made a great game made a great DLC with phantom liberty and and still making new patches something rockstar does not they let some dumb glitches in there games and refuse to patch them they are not so greedy. But such companies will disappear; at one moment the game market is al being sabotaged by that woke criminals like Baby inc. So if gamers don't going to unite against this gaming will be virtually death in the near future. Sorry for the long speech but its really important to revolt against this evolution.
"my favorite game is the last of us part 2" says enough.
This comment says enough.