E65 - Domingo Germán Ejected by James Hoye After Failing Foreign Substance Check
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- HP Umpire James Hoye ejected Yankees pitcher Domingo Germán for an illegal substance following a failed inspection in the 4th inning vs Toronto. All four umpires-Hoye, DJ Reyburn, John Libka, and Clint Vondrak-inspected Germán's hand. Report: www.closecalls...
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Related Rule Official Baseball Rule 6.02(c)(7): "The pitcher shall not have on their person, or in their possession, any foreign substance."
About five minutes after this happened I told my wife you were already working on the ejection video. Not five innings later, here it is.
Yes I agree she does a good job getting this quick
Wanna know how to stop these pitchers from cheating? Call the game and their team forfeits. Tossing the pitcher and issuing suspensions does nothing. If it costs the entire team the game I guarantee it would stop.
Simple.
I thought the Yankees were allowed to cheat and everyone was supposed to look the other way or blame the team that eliminates them every year?
What changed? And why?
I’m glad it did but curious to know what happened…
Rocco Baldelli feeling Vindicated after this ejection.
The substance on his pants was chewing tobacco that he just took out of his mouth with his fingers. It was in another angle.
What, Wankees pitchers cheating ? Surely not.
Thank you CCS for this video. You are so good for getting it out quick
So he finally get's ejected for an foreign substance after 3 years of cheating.
'21: 4.31 FIP
'22: 4.44 FIP
'23: 4.22 FIP
If he's been doing this for 3 years, then he's been doing a bad job at cheating.
"It's the stickiest hand I've ever felt"
- James Hoye letting us know things
he says that a lot.
BS. What criteria is the ump using? The STICKIEST???? Get real.
@@mkrnp how would you know? How about the criteria of checking pitchers EVERY GAME....that's not enough for you?🙄
@@jametz66 umpires have highly tested and calibrated fingertips that should never be questioned. They call it the exact same way every single time, right? 🙄
@@CommonSense823 yes, that's what I said, something like that.🙄🙄🙄
How many times are we going to see this from this Pitcher? Just suspended him for half a season already.
Yanks fans trying to come up with excuses. Your team cheats and you know it.
The stuff on his pants was from the dip in his mouth.
chewing tobacco is banned in the MLB so it’s not a dip
@@MrSupahLMFAO go tell that to the massive hog Rafael devers has in his lip at all times 😂
@@justin-ux3pk coffee grounds
@@tesla3695 lol yeah okay. according to devers himself it’s “bubble gum and sunflower seeds” yet it’s brown. If it was coffee grounds why would he lie and say it’s gum and seeds?
@@justin-ux3pk seeds are typically black and white. when you chew them whole, it turns a brownish/black. There are also several alternatives to tobacco dips that players use. They typically contain either pharmaceutical nictoine or caffeine. Coffee grounds and black tea leaves are two common substitutes for tobbaco leaves. Outlaw Dip and Grinds are two companies that make such products.
Send him down to the minors till he learns how to pitch without cheating.
Some smart person needs to come up with a test that detects rosin and other sticky substances. Until that, an ejection is based on pure judgement calls.
Looks like pine tar to me. So yeap SEE YA!
CHEATER, CHEATER, PUMPKIN EATER
At 1:05 you can see DH hand. It is clear. The sticky substance was allowable rosin. But apparently he used "too much" of it. Whatever that amount is....
Isn't this the third game in a row that a Yankee was ejected?
You are correct Matt Blake on Sunday. Boone on Monday and yesterday Germán.
But this pitcher is a repeat offender & got away with it last time when he was allowed to stay in the game 🙄 Seems he felt that meant cheating using pine tar (look at his hand & pants) was ok for him.
@@JustMeELC yep
@@JustMeELCchecking and saying wash your hands isn’t “getting away with it”
@@mbdg6810 It is when you are caught & allowed to continue to pitch 🙄 Look at his hands & pants... pine tar is not rosin, is banned, & he knows it. The 10 day suspension he's going to get now is not getting away with it ;o)
A month later? This guy tosses a perfect game. Glad to see it ngl
I came to see if anyone had commented about this yet
@@matthumartini1254 same lol
They checked both... 1 busted. Should be routine as a negative result comes in 30 secs. Only reason this takes longer is this crew has history with the pitcher and wants to have consent as a group to levy the punishment. Keep up the great work with this issue Umps
Can't he get swabbed and tested? What's legal and what isn't? There's no CLEAR line as per the rule book not to cross. Max Scherzer said his was sweat and rosin (didn't mention alcohol they asked him to use which can make hands stickier AND spread it to where it wasn't previously).
THIS NEEDS FIXING! Gotta know at what point rosin becomes illegal.
If it's tacky and transfers from the hand, it's illegal. Rosin is supposed to be used as a drying agent, not an adhesive.
@@teebob21 get a clue. Rosin is not a drying agent. If that’s what they intended, they’d leave towels behind the mound. So many things they could use to dry hands that don’t turn sticky with sweat. MLB knows exactly why they allow rosin and it’s not to dry hands.
From the MLB memo sent to all teams March 16, 2023:
"“Please keep in mind that player use of rosin always must be consistent with the requirements and expectations of the Official Baseball Rules. When used excessively or otherwise misapplied (i.e., to gloves or other parts of the uniform), rosin may be determined by the umpires to be a prohibited foreign substance, the use of which may subject a player to ejection and discipline. See OBR 3.01 and OBR 6.02(d). Moreover, players may not intentionally combine rosin with other substances (e.g., sunscreen) to create additional tackiness.”"
@@teebob21 cool story bro. Nowhere does it state what the use of rosin is intended for. Nor does it define what “excessive” is. It’s entirely up to the clowns in black to judge what they feel is “excessive” at any given moment.
@@teebob21 perhaps the umpires shouldn't approve of a procedure and introduce a substance (alcohol) that makes it stickier than it was previously - like they did with Scherzer.
He followed THEIR procedure under THEIR supervision and got ejected. Had he not followed THEIR procedure under THEIR supervision he would've been ejected for disobeying THEIR instructions, right?
Home plate referee James Hoye ordered Domingo Germán to leave the game due to fact he had a sticky substance. Hoye tagged him with a game misconduct.
German uses "nitro gel" in his hair and its getting on the ball. Very innocuous
They should be checking cole after every inning. He's a known cheater too...funny how much the Yankees cheat yet still suck.
Three perfect innings before this cheater was caught. No perfect game this night
They need a better system...one crew's too much is another crew's ok. There's too much left to interpretation.
While I don’t necessarily agree with what happened because there are no clear guidelines given by MLB to say what’s okay and what’s not. He expanded on this when he was asked about the incident in the postgame late last night if you went back and watched. With that being said, given that German was warned about this by the same group of umpires when we played against Minnesota back in the middle of April if I remember correctly, he should know that he’s not supposed to do that.
The fact that there isn’t any clear guidelines is mind-boggling! How do you know for sure what a foreign substance is or isn’t? They are suspending players based on discretion, which is total bullshit in my opinion.
@@MelloYellow510 precisely! Unless MLB gives clear guidelines as to what’s acceptable to be used and what not things like this are going to keep happening across the entire sport. It’s a shame, because they could do so much to help the problem and yet Manfred and Company choose to do nothing about it. it’s a damn shame because over in Japan and Korea we’re baseball is played there. They don’t have this problem because the baseball that players use is called the Mizuno, which has the sticky substance built into it already.
@@anthonynotte5901 exactly! The question now is when does the MLBPA confront the league? Are they gonna stand up for their members ? They are collecting dues. I personally think they are in cahoots. That’s why we haven’t heard anything from them. It’s a damn shame.
He got away with it last time when allowed to stay in game, & this time when he used pine tar for 3 innings 🙄 10 game suspension coming might teach the lesson but hard to say ugh
Anybody think that the crew had a grudge from last time and just said “let’s not deal with this again?”
I think it was less of a grudge and more of not wanting a situation like the one that happened in the Bronx to occur again.
Curse you, Mike Shildt. If only you had let them throw your reliever's funky hat out of the game instead ...
Reminds me of Michael Pineda.
That is chewing tobacco on the side of his pants
His mouth is full of it
chewing tobacco is banned in the MLB. Players aren’t allowed to use chewing tobacco anymore
I wouldn't wanting to touch another man's hand to see if its sticky.....
I can only imagine being as fragile and insecure as someone scared of touching a hand.
@@teebob21 teebob enjoys, even looks forward to stroking another man’s palm to see how sticky it might be and guessing why it is.
Please define what is illegal. If the league doesn’t want rosin then what can they use?
It’s whatever the four clowns in black decide is illegal today. It might not be tomorrow, but today they feel like it is. It’s entirely subjective and comes with a 10 game penalty.
@@CommonSense823 100% agree. There is no baseline as to what is "too sticky". The call is entirely subjective to the crew umping the game. Sweat + rosin or sunscreen + rosin can get extremely sticky, but both combinations are not illegal, the call is entirely up to the crew.
From the MLB memo sent to all clubs on March 16, 2023:
"“Please keep in mind that player use of rosin always must be consistent with the requirements and expectations of the Official Baseball Rules. When used excessively or otherwise misapplied (i.e., to gloves or other parts of the uniform), rosin may be determined by the umpires to be a prohibited foreign substance, the use of which may subject a player to ejection and discipline. See OBR 3.01 and OBR 6.02(d). Moreover, players may not intentionally combine rosin with other substances (e.g., sunscreen) to create additional tackiness.”"
@@teebob21 so specifically which part of this rule was broken in this instance? What tested and calibrated instruments were used to determine that the defined limits were exceeded? Please be specific and back up your statement with facts.
Funny, the umpires couldn’t either.
@@CommonSense823 The pitcher had a foreign substance on his person, detectable by touch. The applicable rule is 6.02(c)(7). No laboratory equipment required.
Stop simping for cheaters.
Yankees cheating??? Hell ya… looks like they needed to.
After game one the Yankees are mad at the Jays broadcast for mentioning cheating. Game two; Their pitcher is ejected for cheating. :p
never clicked a video quicker
It's like a morgue in the dome. I'm sure he heard that pitchcom voice coming from the catcher
Bah ha ha ha ha cheating at baseball, one of the most easiest & certainly most boring games in the world! 🙄
Don’t come to a video that you’re intentionally going to have a fit with.
Love this channel
Some can't wash his hands like the other pitchers
Rosin & Gorilla Glue
Yankees fans love to
call other guys and teams
cheaters. Are they going
to boo German, now⁉️
I don't think so. It's okay
when a Yankee cheats;
just ask ARod. 🤫
The fact that there isn’t any clear guidelines is mind-boggling! How do you know for sure what a foreign substance is or isn’t? They are suspending players based on discretion, which is total bullshit in my opinion.
Use domestic substance then 😅
Crazy how much of a difference happens in 1 month
I mean he got crushed his last 2 outings, pitching really depends on how you feel that day
that should be 10 starts... not 10 games.
10 games in the cooler
Whats funny is Swanson a few innings later clearly had stuff on the brim of his hat and after pitch, whipe hans on his butt. No umpire going to touch your butt. Genius!
Let me guess, it will be rosin, just like it was when he was told to wash his hands earlier jn the season.
If it's rosin and sweat that he picked up from the rosin bag over a half inning of pitching, that's one thing that's bound to lead to disagreements end ejections.
He hasn't even thrown a warmup pitch yet. There's no reason for him to have anything on his hand. Buh-bye and see you in 10 days.
I know German was seen with Tobacco spit on his pants 🤢
That’s what I thought chewing tobacco
@@brandonvidal2741 chewing tobacco is banned from the MLB and players aren’t allowed to chew tobacco anymore. so that’s definitely pine tar
@@Psycho5275 chewing tobacco is banned for all players who played their first MLB game in 2016 and beyond, german's first game was in 2017
it's pine tar
Can U say 'Zero Tolerance' ........Woo Hoo......=))
Why they need like 6 umps to figure out what’s going on
4 umpires make up a regular season crew, and when a potential BIG decision may be made, they're supposed to get all of them together to make sure they're on the same page. It's protocol.
@@jametz66 it takes that many to figure out what “too sticky” means on any given day at any given time.
@@CommonSense823 you're just showing everyone that you have no idea what you're talking about
@@jametz66 excellent point Metz. Please enlighten everyone as to which tested and calibrated instruments the six officials used to determine the exact level of stickiness was involved here. Please educate everyone what the limit of stickiness is (an exact number and unit of measure would be appreciated)
These clowns make it up as they go. What’s legal this day or this inning may be illegal the next and you know it. Unfortunately the players are held to a made up standard and at the mercy of clowns who “feel” differently today and are punished accordingly with a 10 game suspension.
@@CommonSense823 well, first of all, why bother responding to someone who can't count? Again, 4 umpires, not six. And again...your comments are just proof of how ridiculously ignorant you really are. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. You're removing LOTS of doubt today🤣
Did he wash his hands with alcohol
yanks should appeal this, seemed just like rosin.
Did he forget to wipe
Haha
You mean they did not just tell him to clean his hands 😂😂😂
its time to treat them like the astros right?
Not the same degree but now their record is also dirty
@@mbdg6810 i mean yankees records been dirty lol
Phil Cuzzi last night was a joke at the Dodgers game. His calls were horrendous, MLB umpires today have ruined the sport. I can't stand MLB umpires, they are arrogant and think they are perfect. Angel Hernandez, Joe West, C.B. Bucknor some of the worst. Never held accountable, disciplined, or put on camera or mic to apologize for their terrible calls and mistakes. Yes I know that umpires do make the correct and tough calls often, but I'd like to ask, has this YT channel ever posted a video calling out their own umpires for their own mistakes in a crucial spot, even one time or admitted it? Just curious. I know that other TH-cam channels bash umpires, and with good reason, but I want to see if umpiring crews can see fault within themselves, that would be important. Because they are never held accountable in the sport.
AGAIN?!
The funny part about giving a 10-game suspension in this case is that the suspension is usually going to benefit teams other than the team (Blue Jays) that the suspended player's team (Yankees) was playing at the time of the offense. I think MLB should modify the suspension terms a little bit to make it more fair for the team that the offense offended or put at a disadvantage in the first place. I can think of many suspension scenarios in which the team that was put at a competitive disadvantage by an offense that resulted in a suspension did not benefit from the suspension. Not only does this happen in MLB, it also happens in other sports.
the suspension isnt about putting any of the opposing teams to an advantage, its just about putting the yankees and the player to a disadvantage
It's a starting pitcher. A 10 game suspension means he misses one start, maybe two at the most. Starters sit out 80% of the games anyhow. A ten-game suspension for an SP is nothing.
@@teebob21 Not only do the Yankees (or any team) need to find a starting pitcher for two starts, they also can NOT add another pitcher during the suspension period, so they'll be down a pitcher.
@@ohger1 Well then, perhaps the club should ensure that its pitchers aren't violating the foreign substances rule. The league office and the rulebook frown on cheaters.
@@teebob21 Agree - they should.
LMAO I didn't even need to watch the video to know that it's Phil Cuzzi's crew, I just read the title.
But it's not Phil Cuzzi's crew
Why educate yourself when assumptions work out so well. James Hoye is the crew chief.
I love it when uninformed morons identify themselves publicly in the comment section, so that we don't have to bother. This was not Phil Cuzzi's crew.
So you chose to be wrong. Have a nice day
@@mbdg6810 doesn’t matter whose crew it anyhow. If you can’t play by rules any crew would act the same way.
Good stuff underrated channel
Looks like pine tar to me.
And not even a month later, he throws a perfect game.
Baseball can be the weirdest sport sometimes.
My jaw dropped while watching the pine tar incident... Yoo this ejection is terrible man reminded me of Michael Pineda got tossed due to foreign substance on his neck.
I think it is bs man and they want to speed the game up well this isn’t going make it go any faster when one team now has to go to the pen and get a pitcher warmed up I understand it is the rules but come on
Umpire needs to be suspended. He just looking for something where there is none.
Also stuff on his uniform is chew. You left out the part where he threw it out of his mouth right before.
The league instructed the umpires to do these inspections. If he instructed Germán to wash his hands and he didn't, he can be ejected for not following directions of an umpire. They certainly didn't want a replay of what happened in the Bronx when Rocco Baldelli was ejected.
@@vincentwendt720 and what calibrated instruments do they use to tell if his hands are too sticky or not? This should not be a judgement call based on how the umpires feel today. It’s either too sticky or it’s not, but the umpires won’t consistently be able to tell, leaving the players entirely at the mercy of the umpire’s feelings on any given day.
@@FoxtasticGaming Rosin and sweat ARE too sticky, and it transfers to the ball. Rosin is intended for use as a drying agent, not the main ingredient in a DIY adhesive.
@@FoxtasticGaming Yes, it is illegal to combine rosin with another substance and apply it to the hands or the ball. All clubs and umpires were notified of this. From the MLB memo sent March 16, 2023:
"“Please keep in mind that player use of rosin always must be consistent with the requirements and expectations of the Official Baseball Rules. When used excessively or otherwise misapplied (i.e., to gloves or other parts of the uniform), rosin may be determined by the umpires to be a prohibited foreign substance, the use of which may subject a player to ejection and discipline. See OBR 3.01 and OBR 6.02(d). Moreover, players may not intentionally combine rosin with other substances (e.g., sunscreen) to create additional tackiness.”"
Barely sticking? DJ Reyburn's fingers were sticking together in the video.
Stop simping for cheaters.
that stuff was so sticky that it pulled the colour right off his hands.
It's just rosin, isn't it? Is that an illegal substance? I don't understand how this rule works. Last time German said he used rosin in the dugout, that's why he came out with sticky hands. Pitchers can only use rosin on the mound, not in the dugout? They have to wash their hands in between every inning and come out with fresh clean hands? Then rosin them up again on the mound?
excessive rosin is ejectable. thats what happened with scherzer
So how many milligrams are allowed and how many milligrams did he use that made it excessive. Leaving an entire rosin bag on the ground for the players to be used during the game and then using a personal judgement for “excessive” rosin as a reason to suspend a player 10 games seems about right.
@@GepedrglassRosin + the alcohol that the ump told Scherzer to wash his hands with gets extremely sticky.
@matthashobbies honestly between scherzer and german there are so many things that can be ejectable from scuffing/discolouring the ball, to sticky substances that cant be identified as rosin, to not following an umpire's request to wash one's hands of rosin, to (finally) "too much rosin" that i give up on trying to understand what exactly the rule is lmao.
@@Gepedrglass that’s ok. So have the umpires.
Gee, what a shock. They should've tossed him out of that other game, and all that stuff I said before...
Ummm, how CAN I feasibly get a hold of the Commissioner's Office, Lindsay?
The yanks will appeal this. Max should have
They need to just start checking pitchers at the end of every half inning. It's nonsense that the crews are checking because the opposing managers are requesting it. The other option would be an NHL type stick curve check rule. If an opposing manager asks the umpires to check a player for foreign substances and there are no foreign substances than the manager requesting the check should then be ejected. In a year of much bad optics, it's additional bad optics to have umpires checking players.
Imagine if Angel Hernandez was working that game, he would have thrown out the entire Yankees bullpen at the same time, which would stop everyone complaining that he is the worst home plate umpire ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a pitcher, this season is attacking pitchers. It's time to start throwing headshots at batters and claiming the ball slipped.
We need 17 HBP in a single game.