I was recently re-watching Zindagi Gulzar Hai and the effort which was put in the look of each character is amazing. I don’t know if it was the actors or the director or the producers who took on that responsibility. If you notice, Kashaf and her sisters’ dressing is how a lower middle class girl would be dressed. Their nails are either bare or simple nail polish and small baliyaan. There are no acrylic nails or cartilage piercings in sight, this is very prevalent in dramas these days. Rafia had a broken joota, they showed it. On the flip side, Zaroon’s mom, and sister and Amara are all dressed appropriately to their economic background. This is attention to detail. Simply hats off to that entire team.
Pakistani dramas now have lost a sense of simplicity in their art, it's all becoming about A-list stars and expensive actors. Nobody cares about continuity, production value, and what kind of story it is. They have shown us a middle-class family who owns such a big house where everyone eats and drinks but doesn't work any person living in a city like Karachi knows how expensive life is yet in today's dramas they don't address that. In ZGH, Kasaf talks about Finnace and how it impacts her outlook on life but in today's dramas, reality is just vanishing.
@muniranoorani3996 I think the difference was direction. ZGH was directed by Sultana siddiqui .she used to work for Ptv, where drama was not used to make for trp they used to represent normal people daily life
I live in England and after 9/11 and Isis thing Western Muslim youngsters are more aware and vocal about Muslim being tagged as terrorist more than anyone else. To me Maya's dialogue was absolutely nonsensical and not representing western Muslim youngsters.
On the flip side, Aamna's cousin wears a hijaab and she looks very "in it", normal and elegant. Dressing " traditionally" is not to be labelled as regressive, or anything else except that it is the CHOICE of that individual. NOT EVERY ONE IN ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD WEAR JEANS OR "WESTERN" WEAR AS THEIR NORMAL DRESS!!
I have hijab wearing professional highly confident, friends who also looks stunning in their hijabs! They have many ways of tying the hear wear, and it looks very elegant too!
Talking about production quality, it reminds of ‘Zindagi Gulzar Hai’ that made it to the list of top 10 most watched videos in 2022. The attention to detail in that drama is commendable. Kashaf and Zaroon belonged to the different strata of society. In the start of the drama, the way both dressed up, Kashaf’s little to no makeup, the phones that they carried, Kashaf’s styling after her job and marriage-helped the characters to look the part. May be that’s the reason why it has a recurring value.
My issue with yunhi wasn't the first time she called him a terrorist. There are studies that show that most people in foreign environments rely heavily on mental shortcuts (I.e. stereotypes) to decode and protect themselves in it. My issue was her going on about it in the car after her father literally says "he is my cousin's son" and "don't be stupid." At that point she had the facts, so she should have apologized or remained quiet if she thought he didn't hear her. She will clearly be the person that will rightly call out the sexism in that household so why depict her as an airhead and Islamophobe in the first scene. Women's rights are not contrary to Islamic teachings.
Thank you for discussing the loopholes of yunhi- her dressing, her accent , her connotation of muslims, her trying to pull off a 13 year old wearing business casual! Seriously why was she acting like a teenager and looking like a 30 year old working woman travelling for business?
No 30 yr old business woman dresses like that. Domestic they are causal business & international still more comfortable. This was all so bizarre. Didn't expect this from Maya Ali.
@@zaraazeem5408 yeah, felt like she was travelling for work and had to land and go directly for a meeting. Otherwise she would have chosen to wear some comfy clothes for the flight.
i totally agree with your views on maya’s character! my lovely aunt who is a white, born and raised in a red neck state, when she visited pakistan the first time she came out of the airport in a cute traditional kurti and when we greeted her saying Hi she said Asalam u alikum! Its weird how maya’s character is penned down
I am an Indian Hindu and honestly even I didn’t like that scene when Maya’s character called him terrorist. I was a bit shocked when she said that and i have to agree that the accent and dressing was entirely off. I had a hard time connecting to the character. Either Maya should have worked hard to adopt that American accent or they could have casted a different actress altogether for this role. In my opinion , someone like Ushna Shah would have been a better choice as she naturally has a Canadian English accent which is quite similar to the American one. Attention to such details is a must when you are showing such characters. Just my opinion ✌🏻
U are a paxtani isi fake I'd. No Indian talks like that starting with I am a Indian Hindu bla bla bla. This religion identity obsession is paxtani trait not Indian one
@@MoonLight-tn4xe dude since the topic was about islamophobia and misrepresentation of muslims, i wanted to make a point that even being from a different religion, i found that scene absolutely unnecessary and baseless. So, such scenes can hurt the religious sentiments of those who actually belong to that community.
@desidreams8465 i agree and that’s the whole point. Therefore I believe that at least they should be a little sensitive about it and shouldn’t showcase their own people in bad light especially in dramas like these.
I recently watched Dhoop Kinarey. In one scene, Marina Khan's character stays at the hospital the entire night. Near the morning, when she's asked to wash her face and come, her face is without any trace of make-up, and her eyes look sleepless. I don't know how they gave that puffy and a bit swollen look to her eyes, but that's how actually a person looks when he/she is awake all night. These days, no matter what happens to a female character, her make-up and hair are as if she has just come from the beauty parlor.
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In drama Akbari Asghari, Imran Abbas is shown as a moulvi to be married to his cousin in England. When the parents and the cousin, ( Sanam Balouch ) come to Pakistan and see him they are totally shocked, and say, “is ne kia hulia bana liya”. How will they introduce him as their son in law in England. He would be called Taliban. Asghari shows her disgust looking at him. It was a hearted drama, and the scenes looked hilarious. No issue was made about stereotyping moulvis or showing them in a bad light. Later they showed him in a positive manner. Today due to social media, people make an issue of everything.
Janaan film main Bilal ko driver samjha Janaan main bhi girl Bahir se aati , aate hi air port cloths chsnge kerti she felt proud 👏 she into cultural attire . Sunhere Din main , sub se jo massom n poor family ki officer thy Gul Sher un ki wife khud se Aabaya Burqa lati n khud se pahen ker Gul sher ko surprise deti q ki Dono village ja rahe thy Here big problem, Kim knows Urdu she unaware about Pakistan National outfits her father overseas Pakistani . I mean hard to believe I m sure writters director producers knowingly intentionally doing on purpose to create hype Bad n good both create fuss. Thy hurt us badly v hv been receiving this false propaganda treatment after 911 .
@@agul5758 In later episodes, bilaal would call her awara since she lived in the west. So, these are perceptions. Frankly speaking, after the TTP, and how the Afghan taliban are treating women, even I, living in Pakistan would feel uncomfortable around a stranger moulvi type man. It's not about Muslims, it's about looking like a moulvi, beard, cap, shalwar kameez.
I partially agree with you. Akbari Asghari was more then a decade away. The internet has made the world a lot smaller and Islamophobia is a concept that ppl in the US and UK are a lot more aware of. So in that light it was understandable if she said he looks like the maulvi type. But in any case we shouldn’t make a huge deal about it. Maybe she is just the type to exaggerate 😆
@@hopeq1322 At that time every moulvi type man was called taliban, even in Pakistan. Honestly speaking, with so many terrorist activities and bomb blasts that were happening at that time , you couldn’t trust anyone, anywhere. Could be wearing a suicide jacket. Can’t blame anyone for being apprehensive .
My thoughts while watching Maya in yunhi were same.I am living in Canada since 11 years..the youth who grew up here are very familiar with Desi people and not consider them alien or weird.its a global Era.. people are not that dumb infact more culturally sensitive.i see people dressed up like Bilal Ashraf in malls and neighbors hood..
Seems like the trend set by express tv is being caught by big channels too. Mini series, diverse content is making this year the best for our dramas. Maybe the reviewing shows, SH and others made a difference making the drama writers realise and bringing about a change. Similar scripts, dragging by increasing episodes, toxicity, all seem to be taking a reverse gear these days. Throughly enjoying present dramas with varied stories and issues, having progressive, positive heroes, 6 episode dramas are a cherry on the cake. Keep up the good work, Amna, Hassan, your voice is reaching the right quarters, making a difference.
same thoughts - Something Haute definitely has played a pivotal role in encouraging content makers to take risks. Can't wait to see Pak dramas and series on netflix and other international platforms. Well done guys!!
Yunhi: Bilal Ashraf’s look is NOT at all like the Bollywood representation because they make it so grungy with Kajal and taweez and what not. Totally agree with amna on this, it’s not a misrepresentation of Muslims in fact it was so refreshing to see a hero/protagonist dressed up like that. Also agree on the look critique on maya. And might I add the lack of accent is so off putting. Where is the 90 day mehnat. Kubra, mahira, Armeena or anybody else who would actually have a shot at authentic delivery should have been cast.
Thank goodness Amnna points out Maya clothing. I was surprised Amna didn’t do it in reviews. When we come from USA to Pakistan we are like tiered and are In comfortable clothes.
We can not complain about India and other countries misrepresented us. When our own actor calling someone who’s dressed religious a “terrorist” is so nasty.
Aamna was spot on Kim’s ignorance and prejudice!!! Loving the Southern drawl . Faryal Mehmood would have nailed this character especially since she has the genuine American accent
Honestly after listening to these stories and also hearing about all the other issues wrt utilities like Aamna mentioned, major respect to all the actors and production houses that keep on delivering good dramas and stories!
Meerab ki bridal dressing ko b 2 perspectives (shakhon😜) mei dekha jaa skta hai, ek ye k wo khush ni thi shadi se to dil se tyar ni hui thi... Secondly wo log thory traditional dikhaye gye hen to esy log vibrant colors or heavy jewellery pehnty hen usually...
Don't know why people think Bilal was misrepresented. And we know what ever Maya's character is thinking about him will be corrected in later episodes. (I hope)
Hi Aamna and Hassan! Hope you're doing well. I just wanted to say that I feel drama tere bin has a bit Indian touch to it. Words like shagun, suhagan, janam (7 janams of hindu religion) etc and also murtasim and meerub's shaadi had an Indian touch to it. And also few scenes look inspired from starplus dramas. What do you guys think about this? #onthespot #hassanchoudary #aamnaisani
Bhai pura star plus banake rakha h, aap janab sirf dialogues ka bol rahe. Bahut zyada Indian serial type bullshit h. I love the romance but not the regressiveness.
Geo TV's all dramas are like this and its really cringeworthy.... apna culture ore zuban tuo dekhaho😡.. but shagun and suhagan are not only Indian words we use it all the times. My problem is with خ کو کھ ۔۔۔۔۔۔علط کو گلط
Youre so right, continuity issues just disrupts half of your experience while watching a show. Just imagine, if nail polish colours irritates us toh what about when actor and actresses enter a house with one hairstyle and enter their room with another. Even if its one of my favourite actors, it still annoys me lol
I was born in UK and lived all my life here have never been to Pakistan and behaved like Kim lol laughable seriously what the hell. Even in America people are very aware of Pakistan.
In all honesty, the red bridal on Yumna was perfect for Nikkah,barat occasion. I personally loved ❤it more than Hania's bridal. But then I love the red color it is my fav!!
In Hollywood when filming a series, there is usually a team on set dedicated to purely paying attention to continuity. Recording the appearances of characters, placing of objects, placing of the actors and so on. The teams meticulously keep a record of everything and make sure there aren’t continuity errors in the scenes. We need similar teams in Pakistan to increase production quality.
You're right and it also reminds me of Starbucks cup in game of thrones series. It was funny and yet shows even the whole team of GOT can make mistakes . This is comparatively smaller scale project.. i agree with you but there is still a chance of mistake.
Amma pointed out all these issues in Yunhi's 1st episode and these were really important points. I wondered after watching Haute Review that how you guys missed it
I agree with Amna, Big production houses need to cast properly, if a girl is from abroad then cast actors who can pull off an accent, if they continue to give actresses like Maya work, she and many like her need to work on their character development before they get to set. Sid and Kiara looked so simple and cute. Plus they had a very intimate wedding with their close family and friends which was so special.
There was nothing wrong with dressing of Dawood. That's how man dress for Namaz. Also note he was not dressed in regular shalwar qameez when he was leaving for work. Plus, a child of Pakistani heritage grown up in US would never call someone dressed in shalwar qammez a terrorist. If she was a non Pakistani who lived in Southern belt of US, never came across a single person of another culture, not aware of Islamophobia, only followed Fox, then I would expect this type of behavior from that person.
What an absolutely horrific experience to go through for the whole crew. Very sad that the locals committed these traumatic crimes, really feel terrible for the victims. Also, the locals have no idea what side benefits they will be losing. Our actors are definitely top notch world class actors who have to fight thru every step of their way & much more so for our female actors. On transatlantic flights ppl always wear comfortable clothing mostly joggers & sweats. ( Juicy Couture is so 90s' Aamna :)) ) Business / first class usually wear non branded stuff. Bags maybe, but very rarely will I see luxury brands clothing. It's more the new money ppl ( Naw daulatiay) who will flaunt their brands. People are way more concerned abt thr 27 plus hour journey ahead from US and 15 hr. plus from Europe etc. Never have I ever seen anybody in tight jeans & definitely NEVER aa blazer. Showing off your clothing brand is also very outdated now. If you have a high end luxury bag/ accessory please don't show it off so blatantly as they do in Pakistan, it's quite vulgar seriously. Watching Saba Qamar in Sar e Rah the thing that kept distracting me was her pristine image. It was just Saba Qamar driving a taxi, not the character herself. Her spotless, well pressed clothes, manicured, perfect nails was a bit much. I SO miss Mehreen Jabbar dramas. Mehreen Jabbar is a perfectionist in this regard. Our actors / directors mostly care abt how their heroine looks instead of caring abt the character itself. Vanity really is the quicksand of reason.
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Amna is so right, Saba qamar is too polished both physically and verbally in that character. Even her mum and future MIL were too dressed-up. It’s more about attention to detail… In past, dramas were more realistic, Maat, Zindagi Gulzaar hey etc. Actors were more dedicated to build their characters. Now a days, every girl in dramas has blow-dried hair, well-dressed attire and accent. All the males have the same Gel-based hair style, slim-fit shirts. Their mums are all dressed-up too. It’s lack of interest/communication between the team. The focus has shifted to glamour now.
I think that “terrorist” comment was needed because now she will realize how she was wrong about it and one should not be judged by the look. I saw lots of medals in his room so he is not only religious but also someone who has achieved in his life. This is the best way to clear the stereotype.. Everyone needs to chill out sometimes and aaj kal to koi bhi bat pe talware nikal dete hai log.. Love from India
Disagree! The word terrorist is the worse gali you can use for Pakistanis (living outside of Pakistan) especially in US. No one living in US would use that word.
@@sadiasaleem3551 May be as a outsider I don’t get why it’s making you upset.. But trust me hiding or not recognizing issues make it even worse.. Its better to openly discuss and get over it.. this is my opinion.. peace out ✌🏾
I really don’t understand why they casted Maya. Clearly she didn’t put effort in her character. Even if writing was confusing but at least she should’ve worked on her English accent. You will never see that in any actors in Hollywood.
I was wondering the same. In Hollywood they have dialect coaches so no actor will ever come on screen without getting the accent right! I think it is a lazy approach on part of the actor
Omg what the cast and crew of Aik Thi Laila and Nabeel Qureshi's film went through is so scary! I hope everyone injured gets well soon and the mob instigators get jailed. Something really needs to be done to ensure the security of the unit.
The whole stereotype discussion around daoud’s character is so pointless. Me and my husband are both pakistani who were born and raised in europe and we both come home from Work ( i am a Doctor and he is a lawyer) and we change into our shalwar kameez because we feel More comfortable That way at home. My dad who has been living in germany for 35 years goes to Jumma Prayers dressed like That. And seriously if you have ever been to the UK you will See a lot of desi People being dressed like That. Having Said that… i completely agree with Amna that the « terrorist » remark was completely uncalled for esp. With all the islamophobia we face abroad every day. I understand it was meant to be funny and might have Been necessary to create a misconception in Kim’s head about daoud’s character. But they could have achieved that with That taxi-driver remark as well cause most taxi drivers MIGHT be dressed like That in pakistan as shalwar kameez is our Qoumi Libas. Nothing wrong with That.
Your channel - Hot Bites and Drama Reviews - helps me a lot in Canada. As a newcomer to Canada, I usually miss being in Pakistan, however, your channel let me connect with what has been happening in a very subtle way with some facts talking and solutions. Moreover, I was just thinking about Wahab Bhugti - was thinking what happened to us after Kaana Yaari but Aamna, Hats off you. I feel, you have that understanding of going extra mile to use journalism for to discuss our societal issues.
wow... jackson heights was perfect, I have lived in NewYork for 5 years. bilkul aese he hota hai...aese lag raha tha k mein jackson heights mein phir rahi hon
I’ve seen a lot of comments that are very happy the actors and crew, which included elders and little kids, got attacked. I don’t think mob violence should never be encouraged or praised, ever. It’s quite scary how much of a mob mentality our people have and are quick to attack the ‘other’ or people on suspicion only or encourage or hype it up. Reminds me of the 2 Sialkot incidents. The attack on the actors was not just because of the noise issue, but because people think how dare they film things in our locations because the people attacking are usually riled up by someone and it could be them being against dramas, films, actors etc. Faysal Qureshi touched on this topic in a podcast actually & explained lots of places refuse filming of dramas because they think actors are not good people or they’re doing something morally wrong. Fair enough, but it was quite insightful to see that whereas actors are so famous in our country the stigma they still carry of being morally very bad people just for the line of work they’re in, is quite the oxymoron to see. Also, I’m sure the production must seek permission before shooting in the first place?
I worked on a Netflix production that had over a hundred background artists. There was a team of wardrobe, hair and makeup just for background. Keep in mind background artists are never featured on screen. Each background extra had a story and their hair / nails / eyelashes /clothes / props had to match the story. It really disappoints me to see when principle actors in Pakistani dramas don’t show the same attention to detail
Netflix is xtremely professional & definitely has a huge budget, plus the value of Pakistani Rupee getting on a daily basis doesn't help. Also, producers mostly spend on themselves & then on their lead / big name actors paycks & think they're done. The rest of the crew, they couldn't care less. How else would they be able to buy multiple luxury cars, bags, clothes etc. Income level is hugely disproportionate b/w actors & the rest of the crew kindda like what our designers have done to our kaarigars. Attention to detail is the least of their concerns. I just cringe the way they speak Urdu nowadays, It's absolutely pathetic. It's very ghetto Urdu that we hear in Pakistani dramas today. very sad.
@@zaraazeem5408 some responsibility falls on the actors too. They are all getting their hair makeup done eg. Kim coming from US, obviously money was spent on this look, her hair/ makeup / clothes etc. Why was the achieved look still not believable? Lack of commitment to the character, lack of research done on how a person would look after a 14 hour flight. Her look did not match her story. Same with Saba Q looking too polished in Sar-w-rah
I'm sorry but the actors in Pakistan don't have a team to do this work. Your statement doesn't say that the Netflix actors were doing this work themselves, so why are you 'disappointed' that Pakistani actors are not doing for themselves what a team did for the Netflix actors??? This is the problem with people who use Netflix as an example. You are not comparing a like-for-like situation. Be realistic!!
@@MeemBaay111 are you saying Maya Ali does not have someone doing her hair / make up? Where is she getting her clothes from? The actors absolutely have a team and access to a good chunk of change. Especially top tier actors. It seems like their goal is more to look “good” then look how that CHARACTER would in THAT situation. I am not saying Pak dramas can afford a team for background extras like Netflix, obviously. But at least the main actors who already have teams can use common sense / do research for their character
Actually they broke the stereotype hero image, the audience is just used to flashy looking lead men... Well done to this drama where they are showing our normal society men who dresses up in shslwar qameez, they are regular in prayers and at work they wear trousers shirts as per office needs. 😊
I really feel sad about what happened on the set with the team of Nabeel Q's project, i cannot imagine how scary that must've been. F9 incident i just can't even bare to talk or think about it .. then turkey/syria.. too much, pray for Allah's mercy is all i can say... Allah reham farmai
Glad you raised the details issue. In todays episode of Tere Bin Murtasim had a pillow when Meerub runs to call his father for help. And when they come back, the pillow is gone. Murtasim is unconscious and there is none else in the room. Kahan gaya pillow? 🤦🏽♀️I think this is a blunder!
Muslims abroad are clearly aware of the implications of stereotyping. People should research before showing highly irresponsible dramas as 'character'.
I totally agree with Amna's views on Maya's accent and styling. I don't agree with people comparing it with Mahira's accent in TLOMJ as they are completely different things. TLOMJ wasn't based on reality but in a world of its own with no standard to compare with. However Maya's lack of accent is important here because it is part of her character,she doesn't look convincing as an overseas Pakistani. She looks more like herself. Bilal on the other hand looks more the part with normal shalwar qameez not the fitted kurta pajama and Johny Bravo hairstyle that many other actors do when they play middle class ordinary Pakistani man. Ahmad Ali Akbars demeanor,his walk,posture,dressing played an important part in making his character so relatable and real despite story moving away from reality in "parizaad". I like the drama "Yunhi" and I hope that somehow story's focus shifts from her coming from abroad(as an overseas Pakistani her poor depiction takes away from her performance for me).
I agree. The whole plot seems to be based on the contrast between the characters and their background. Her accent bothered me so much. I will just have to assume she’s a modern liberal girl who was raised in Pakistan. Haah!
90% of the whole Pakistani boys on Fridays and 100% of all Pakistani men on Eids look like Bilal inside and OUTSIDE of Pakistan (above or below ankle) Writing was very weak for Mayas character unfortunately. She not only doesnt know how pakistani attire is, she doesnt know American accent all too well too. Anyways.
We should definately reflect eik lamha lagta hai sab khatam honey mein but this realisation comes very late in life. Thank you Aamna for pointing out the way Maya was dressed at the airport after such a long flight how can someone look so perfect.
So glad you dedicated an entire segment to production quality. The set, outfits, etc should all represent the strata of society that is being shown. Characters that are shown to have been born and brought up abroad should have accents. Especially when the premise is cultural difference between the lead characters. Desi larka and angrez larki… Maya Ali just does not come across as an “angrez ” and it takes away from the viewing experience. It bothered me every time she would speak.
The problem is our stars are needlessly influenced with Bollywood movies showing the likes of Katrina kaif and depika arriving exactly like that at airports in movies but ironically if you see real pictures of the same stars at airports , they are wearing such cool trackies and hoodies .. Zero points for Maya’s style sense ..Quoting Maya from Something haute’s interview that we know that log pagal nahi hain with the presence of Netflix and all so if she knows then why didn’t she think about what would an America returned desi wear in a long haul flight , how would she talk and walk..
Tanhaiyan and Dhoop Kinaray has girls wearing shalwar qameez and looked smarter than girls who are shown to return from a western country where they wear western outfits and still look uncomfortable in them. It is a body language thing.
Kim calling Daud is stereotypical. Even if they show him as a hero and she falls in love with him, calling him a terrorist just based on his looks and dressing, it propagates. I mean c’mon the west is copying/adopting our designs, our sherwanis, veil, embroidered designs, makeup and even our cuisine and music … and here our writers/actors/dramas are showing this. These people need to get out of this complex. We should take pride in our identity. And even if he was wearing surma so what … if Johnny/rockstars can wear smoky eyes and kohl it’s all good if our men wear it, then label as a terrorist no matter how … the hypocrisy! 🤷🏻♀️ Who decides that wearing a traditional outfit makes one backward or like a terrorist. Also, agar hum chahte hain ke log stereotype na kerein, toh humein khud stereotype nahi kerna chahiye. It’s as simple as that.
In Yunhi: Maya’s character who speaks urdu is a daughter of a Pakistani calling Bilal’s character a terrorist was a bit stupid…I don’t think those whose Parents have migrated to the West will ever behave in such a way & yes her English accent or urdu was not at all of a girl who has always lived in the West. Sorry Maya is not very impressive so far.
Yunhi - Billal Abbas dressed up in shalwar kameez is not an issue. The issues is Maya Ali perceiving him as such. What kind of a sicko kind she is to label someone as terrorist based on the clothes !!! I have no respect for that character she portrayed and displayed. And to show that on a t.v serious. 🙄 big minus to the director and story writer.
The Urdu accent seeps through the actors’ English, even if it’s just a word and it is so off-putting. In addition to those you’ve mentioned in the video-Mariam and Hamza (who was Australia return) in MH. Meerub, who is shown to be a city girl in Tere bin also has these issues. The articulation and pronunciation of words, for eg., impress-> empress etc should be worked upon. Our actors are such hard workers, they should give some time to pronunciation and articulation too. ❤ Similar is the case of posh actors playing LMI. This is an issue across dramas, can’t single out one coz all have the problem. ZGH aced these challenges IMO. The transition of Kashaf and her family is palpable and how. Kashafs look changes when she becomes an officer, she has nail paint, a watch, those Pearl studs. And then the transformation post wedding. These little things make huge difference.
I couldn't resonate with Kim's character. So tone-deaf and strange! Responsible writing is crucial please don't trivialize things. And then lack of accent didn't help either. 🙄 I think someone who can pull off at least a basic English accent and better acting skills would have been more suitable! But let's see how it unfolds.
I didn't bother to watch the whole episode once she associated that terrorist word to the character representing a good follower! I mean, who does that? My all family born and brought up abroad, not a single time any one of us passed such degrading remarks on anyone neither outsider nor in the family. What are they trying to portray? So big no for that drama!
Kya matlab marriage dress ghalat tha Tere Bin main. The girl didnt choose her dress, she wasnt interested in getting married so she didnt care about how she carried it. It looks like something her mother in law would buy. The only problem with Yumna is she needs to use some face lifting technique. Her nasolabial fold is twice as long as her ”mother in laws” …. As for any man would marry ”the other bride”…… isnt that an insult to the men? Theres not an iota of innocence, genuineness, dignity or grace in the other bride.
Yunhi.. about bilal's appearance.. it was very normal for him to go in his shalwar kameez as he had just finished his prayer and later he is shown that he wears dress pants to go to work and intentionally they showed medals and awards in his room to establish and normalize smart ppl who can excell in academics and still b able to carry a beard and offer namazain regularly... i actually appreciate that part... but the annoying thing was that they showed that ppl coming from abroad have never seen any practicing Muslim around them ever ... who can look a certain way and still b as normal as any other intelligent person ... even after her father had told her that he is my brothers son... I mean come on.....
Using the term Terrorist against a person is not funny . If this had been on an American channel, there would have even a lot of hue and cry on trying to normalize islamophobia on TV. Also only an ignorant person living in some backwaters of America would make such a remark . People in America,especially over the past decade, have become very sensitive and politically correct. Clearly the writer hasn’t interacted with educated Pakistani Americans
My family living in us have next generation born in US highly educated from universities ,girls wear trousers long shirts scarves and some of them wear hijab,eastern outfits now readily available in US
Bilal character is not misrepresentation but Maya comment so offense and disgusting.Living in the UK my whole life and I would never look at anyone and call them terrorist.
I feel like there’s more to Kim’s character. It was only the first episode & even though her accent wasn’t good but she barely spoke. Why not wait to find out more about the character & how she was brought up?
I completely agree. Maya Ali attire, and her dialect was so so off. I can think of so many superb lead actresses who have an accent. Kubra Khan for example could have done so much justice to the character! And yes Yumnas makeup is so bad. She needs to have a stylist definitely
IMO, there are a lot of Muslims who also have a lot of stereotypes about their own community. IG, they wanna show how she realizes her mistakes, her inherent Islamophobia and becomes more aware by the end of the show.
Not getting the accent right is a huge problem. I mean, wearing western clothing is just not enough to make a character believable. I mean has anyone seen Tár and the lengths the brilliant Cate Blanchett went to, to prepare for her role to play an acclaimed conductor for the Berlin Philharmonic. She hired piano teachers, conductors, movement coaches and German dialect coaches herself. Not for one second you question that authenticity, the fabric, the interwoven unique, idiosyncrasies that come with being a conductors to an acclaimed orchestra. Similarly, there are certain traits, idiosyncrasies that come with being a Pakistani American.
I recall Wahaj Ali telling us how he tried to perfect the Bengali accent for Jo bichar, but just like you don’t have drama schools, nor additional support for the actors, in Pakistan, this support is found in Hollywood, where budgets are assigned to assist the actor in getting into the skin of the character! cate Blanchett has that support,as was Colin Firth in The Kings speech , or Charlize Theron in the monster! It’s not left only to the actor, and there is a whole industry of voice and accent coaches to cosmetic artist, costume designers! Even the British Indian actor Dev Patel was sent to australia with a voice coach helping him perfect his Australian accent to do the film The Lion( which he said was really hard to do)! I’m just impressed at the myriad of talent you have in your actors, it’s time they are supported!
Kiara and Sidharth are the most loved couple of Bollywood….they are gorgeous and the whole of India was eagerly waiting to get a glimpse of their wedding…wish them all the love ❤❤….also please don’t mind Sidharth playing Majnu…both the countries don’t accurately represent the other country in their dramas and films and films are anyway not taken as a source of truth…moreover, he had signed this film 5 years back and he himself is not anti-Pakistan which is evident from his personality, he has never spoken anything bad about any country….he even said in an interview that it’s a narrative and he played his part…love and peace to all ❤
Tbh I know people who wear sweats on the flights but change when the plane is about to land. So commenting on her outfit was a bit out there. I would’ve loved to give my two cents on Maya’s accent cause I had doubts but the background score was a little high for me to even hear her dialogues properly. Also people who live outside of Pakistan are way more in tuned with what’s going on in Pakistan than people think. If they had shown them coming from a European non English speaking country the accent wouldn’t have been an issue at all. Because they all have accents in English. And people did go to other countries besides US for med schools. I found the t word jarring because most Muslims who’ve lived in the US post 9/11 wouldn’t use the word lightly, no matter the context. Yes it would’ve been believable had she just commented on Dawood’s attire or looked at it funny. Also Buffalo is no where near the Bible Belt lol.
Hania, I think puts effort into her looks. Like Ayeza. Her Walima look in Mere humsafar was perfect and she looked ethereal. She maintained the upper class wife look post wedding. Same with the lovely wedding look in MPHT. She dresses in a way to accentuate her features. Yumna, a gorgeous adaakaara, should definitely put in some thought into her looks as well. Her styling seems to be outsourced to the production team which doesn’t put much thought into it. She’s a rich asf bride yaar but her trousseau except the maroon red suit of the last episode is nothing but underwhelming. The less said about the wedding look the better.
Amna ji aapki eye health ki safety ko priority. Humble suggestion n request take a break 4 to 6 weeks if possible. Wish you full recovery n absolute health and prosperity
Being an Indian (an ardent fan of Pakistani dramas and stars and something haute), i too was smirking at that scene from "Yun Hi", where she called him terrorist. I was like, itna raula pa rhe the Pakistan Wale jab abhi hamari film mein hum ne Aisa ek ladka dikhaya tha... Aur khud apne drama mein dikha rhe hain.. but great job calling it out. You guys live up to expectations. On other note, India is not habitual seeing salwar kameez guys with topis on heads as it's not Muslim dominated area. So they find every person dressed like that a terrorist. It's not their fault. Please teach us politely. I toh personally understand that very well but please if you see such an Indian with those judgements, teach them nicely. Make your point clear to them. It would bridge a great relationship between both countries. ❤️
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I was recently re-watching Zindagi Gulzar Hai and the effort which was put in the look of each character is amazing. I don’t know if it was the actors or the director or the producers who took on that responsibility. If you notice, Kashaf and her sisters’ dressing is how a lower middle class girl would be dressed. Their nails are either bare or simple nail polish and small baliyaan. There are no acrylic nails or cartilage piercings in sight, this is very prevalent in dramas these days. Rafia had a broken joota, they showed it. On the flip side, Zaroon’s mom, and sister and Amara are all dressed appropriately to their economic background. This is attention to detail. Simply hats off to that entire team.
I agree that's why there WAS class in Pakistan dramas which have now unfortunately vanished
Same production house of Hum TV 😂 .standard has gone down .They need to work on the details and writers .
My all time favourite drama together with Dastan and Yakeen ka safar!
Pakistani dramas now have lost a sense of simplicity in their art, it's all becoming about A-list stars and expensive actors. Nobody cares about continuity, production value, and what kind of story it is. They have shown us a middle-class family who owns such a big house where everyone eats and drinks but doesn't work any person living in a city like Karachi knows how expensive life is yet in today's dramas they don't address that. In ZGH, Kasaf talks about Finnace and how it impacts her outlook on life but in today's dramas, reality is just vanishing.
@muniranoorani3996 I think the difference was direction. ZGH was directed by Sultana siddiqui .she used to work for Ptv, where drama was not used to make for trp they used to represent normal people daily life
I live in England and after 9/11 and Isis thing Western Muslim youngsters are more aware and vocal about Muslim being tagged as terrorist more than anyone else. To me Maya's dialogue was absolutely nonsensical and not representing western Muslim youngsters.
On the flip side, Aamna's cousin wears a hijaab and she looks very "in it", normal and elegant. Dressing " traditionally" is not to be labelled as regressive, or anything else except that it is the CHOICE of that individual. NOT EVERY ONE IN ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD WEAR JEANS OR "WESTERN" WEAR AS THEIR NORMAL DRESS!!
Wow i really like your comment ❤️..
Being naked is not progressive I think such people are regressive n extremist
Well said!! 👏🏼
I have hijab wearing professional highly confident, friends who also looks stunning in their hijabs! They have many ways of tying the hear wear, and it looks very elegant too!
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Talking about production quality, it reminds of ‘Zindagi Gulzar Hai’ that made it to the list of top 10 most watched videos in 2022. The attention to detail in that drama is commendable. Kashaf and Zaroon belonged to the different strata of society. In the start of the drama, the way both dressed up, Kashaf’s little to no makeup, the phones that they carried, Kashaf’s styling after her job and marriage-helped the characters to look the part. May be that’s the reason why it has a recurring value.
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My issue with yunhi wasn't the first time she called him a terrorist. There are studies that show that most people in foreign environments rely heavily on mental shortcuts (I.e. stereotypes) to decode and protect themselves in it. My issue was her going on about it in the car after her father literally says "he is my cousin's son" and "don't be stupid." At that point she had the facts, so she should have apologized or remained quiet if she thought he didn't hear her.
She will clearly be the person that will rightly call out the sexism in that household so why depict her as an airhead and Islamophobe in the first scene. Women's rights are not contrary to Islamic teachings.
Hanias bridal dress was almost entirely backless. As someone who supposedly has a strict father, stuck out to me like a sore thumb.
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100 percent
Thank you for discussing the loopholes of yunhi- her dressing, her accent , her connotation of muslims, her trying to pull off a 13 year old wearing business casual! Seriously why was she acting like a teenager and looking like a 30 year old working woman travelling for business?
No 30 yr old business woman dresses like that. Domestic they are causal business & international still more comfortable. This was all so bizarre. Didn't expect this from Maya Ali.
@@zaraazeem5408 yeah, felt like she was travelling for work and had to land and go directly for a meeting. Otherwise she would have chosen to wear some comfy clothes for the flight.
🤣🤣🤣Lmao. No one travels like this on such a long tiring international flight, especially from the US. Yup, that scene and her acting were weird!
i totally agree with your views on maya’s character! my lovely aunt who is a white, born and raised in a red neck state, when she visited pakistan the first time she came out of the airport in a cute traditional kurti and when we greeted her saying Hi she said Asalam u alikum!
Its weird how maya’s character is penned down
I am an Indian Hindu and honestly even I didn’t like that scene when Maya’s character called him terrorist. I was a bit shocked when she said that and i have to agree that the accent and dressing was entirely off. I had a hard time connecting to the character. Either Maya should have worked hard to adopt that American accent or they could have casted a different actress altogether for this role. In my opinion , someone like Ushna Shah would have been a better choice as she naturally has a Canadian English accent which is quite similar to the American one. Attention to such details is a must when you are showing such characters. Just my opinion ✌🏻
U are a paxtani isi fake I'd. No Indian talks like that starting with I am a Indian Hindu bla bla bla. This religion identity obsession is paxtani trait not Indian one
@@MoonLight-tn4xe dude since the topic was about islamophobia and misrepresentation of muslims, i wanted to make a point that even being from a different religion, i found that scene absolutely unnecessary and baseless. So, such scenes can hurt the religious sentiments of those who actually belong to that community.
@desidreams8465 i agree and that’s the whole point. Therefore I believe that at least they should be a little sensitive about it and shouldn’t showcase their own people in bad light especially in dramas like these.
I recently watched Dhoop Kinarey. In one scene, Marina Khan's character stays at the hospital the entire night. Near the morning, when she's asked to wash her face and come, her face is without any trace of make-up, and her eyes look sleepless. I don't know how they gave that puffy and a bit swollen look to her eyes, but that's how actually a person looks when he/she is awake all night. These days, no matter what happens to a female character, her make-up and hair are as if she has just come from the beauty parlor.
Absolutely!
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In drama Akbari Asghari, Imran Abbas is shown as a moulvi to be married to his cousin in England. When the parents and the cousin, ( Sanam Balouch ) come to Pakistan and see him they are totally shocked, and say, “is ne kia hulia bana liya”. How will they introduce him as their son in law in England. He would be called Taliban. Asghari shows her disgust looking at him. It was a hearted drama, and the scenes looked hilarious. No issue was made about stereotyping moulvis or showing them in a bad light. Later they showed him in a positive manner. Today due to social media, people make an issue of everything.
Janaan film main Bilal ko driver samjha Janaan main bhi girl Bahir se aati , aate hi air port cloths chsnge kerti she felt proud 👏 she into cultural attire .
Sunhere Din main , sub se jo massom n poor family ki officer thy Gul Sher un ki wife khud se Aabaya Burqa lati n khud se pahen ker Gul sher ko surprise deti q ki Dono village ja rahe thy
Here big problem, Kim knows Urdu she unaware about Pakistan National outfits her father overseas Pakistani .
I mean hard to believe
I m sure writters director producers knowingly intentionally doing on purpose to create hype
Bad n good both create fuss.
Thy hurt us badly v hv been receiving this false propaganda treatment after 911 .
@@agul5758 In later episodes, bilaal would call her awara since she lived in the west. So, these are perceptions. Frankly speaking, after the TTP, and how the Afghan taliban are treating women, even I, living in Pakistan would feel uncomfortable around a stranger moulvi type man. It's not about Muslims, it's about looking like a moulvi, beard, cap, shalwar kameez.
I partially agree with you. Akbari Asghari was more then a decade away. The internet has made the world a lot smaller and Islamophobia is a concept that ppl in the US and UK are a lot more aware of. So in that light it was understandable if she said he looks like the maulvi type. But in any case we shouldn’t make a huge deal about it. Maybe she is just the type to exaggerate 😆
@@hopeq1322 At that time every moulvi type man was called taliban, even in Pakistan. Honestly speaking, with so many terrorist activities and bomb blasts that were happening at that time , you couldn’t trust anyone, anywhere. Could be wearing a suicide jacket. Can’t blame anyone for being apprehensive .
Cmon man you can't call terrorist that is wrong
My thoughts while watching Maya in yunhi were same.I am living in Canada since 11 years..the youth who grew up here are very familiar with Desi people and not consider them alien or weird.its a global Era.. people are not that dumb infact more culturally sensitive.i see people dressed up like Bilal Ashraf in malls and neighbors hood..
I feel for kim's character Ushna Shah would be the right choice as she would be able to get that American accent right.
Exactly! If they haven’t got an accent coach, take someone who already has an American accent.
Seems like the trend set by express tv is being caught by big channels too. Mini series, diverse content is making this year the best for our dramas. Maybe the reviewing shows, SH and others made a difference making the drama writers realise and bringing about a change. Similar scripts, dragging by increasing episodes, toxicity, all seem to be taking a reverse gear these days. Throughly enjoying present dramas with varied stories and issues, having progressive, positive heroes, 6 episode dramas are a cherry on the cake.
Keep up the good work, Amna, Hassan, your voice is reaching the right quarters, making a difference.
same thoughts - Something Haute definitely has played a pivotal role in encouraging content makers to take risks. Can't wait to see Pak dramas and series on netflix and other international platforms. Well done guys!!
Yunhi: Bilal Ashraf’s look is NOT at all like the Bollywood representation because they make it so grungy with Kajal and taweez and what not. Totally agree with amna on this, it’s not a misrepresentation of Muslims in fact it was so refreshing to see a hero/protagonist dressed up like that.
Also agree on the look critique on maya. And might I add the lack of accent is so off putting. Where is the 90 day mehnat. Kubra, mahira, Armeena or anybody else who would actually have a shot at authentic delivery should have been cast.
In fact, I think this is a first.
Thank goodness Amnna points out Maya clothing. I was surprised Amna didn’t do it in reviews. When we come from USA to Pakistan we are like tiered and are In comfortable clothes.
We can not complain about India and other countries misrepresented us. When our own actor calling someone who’s dressed religious a “terrorist” is so nasty.
Aamna was spot on Kim’s ignorance and prejudice!!! Loving the Southern drawl . Faryal Mehmood would have nailed this character especially since she has the genuine American accent
Honestly after listening to these stories and also hearing about all the other issues wrt utilities like Aamna mentioned, major respect to all the actors and production houses that keep on delivering good dramas and stories!
Sahi kaha apne . Sunkar bohot dukh hua ki Pakistan me aam janta is tarah ke conditions me jee rahe hai 😕.
Meerab ki bridal dressing ko b 2 perspectives (shakhon😜) mei dekha jaa skta hai, ek ye k wo khush ni thi shadi se to dil se tyar ni hui thi... Secondly wo log thory traditional dikhaye gye hen to esy log vibrant colors or heavy jewellery pehnty hen usually...
Don't know why people think Bilal was misrepresented. And we know what ever Maya's character is thinking about him will be corrected in later episodes. (I hope)
They truly showed a negative image of a religious man!!!
But she’s an ignorant Islamophobe which is repulsive
Hi Aamna and Hassan! Hope you're doing well.
I just wanted to say that I feel drama tere bin has a bit Indian touch to it. Words like shagun, suhagan, janam (7 janams of hindu religion) etc and also murtasim and meerub's shaadi had an Indian touch to it. And also few scenes look inspired from starplus dramas. What do you guys think about this?
#onthespot #hassanchoudary #aamnaisani
Bhai pura star plus banake rakha h, aap janab sirf dialogues ka bol rahe. Bahut zyada Indian serial type bullshit h. I love the romance but not the regressiveness.
Geo TV's all dramas are like this and its really cringeworthy.... apna culture ore zuban tuo dekhaho😡.. but shagun and suhagan are not only Indian words we use it all the times. My problem is with خ کو کھ ۔۔۔۔۔۔علط کو گلط
It's each and every scene seems inspired by indian dramas.
Esha regressiveness is unique to Pakistani dramas
Youre so right, continuity issues just disrupts half of your experience while watching a show. Just imagine, if nail polish colours irritates us toh what about when actor and actresses enter a house with one hairstyle and enter their room with another. Even if its one of my favourite actors, it still annoys me lol
I was born in UK and lived all my life here have never been to Pakistan and behaved like Kim lol laughable seriously what the hell. Even in America people are very aware of Pakistan.
In all honesty, the red bridal on Yumna was perfect for Nikkah,barat occasion. I personally loved ❤it more than Hania's bridal. But then I love the red color it is my fav!!
In Hollywood when filming a series, there is usually a team on set dedicated to purely paying attention to continuity. Recording the appearances of characters, placing of objects, placing of the actors and so on. The teams meticulously keep a record of everything and make sure there aren’t continuity errors in the scenes. We need similar teams in Pakistan to increase production quality.
Which shouldn’t be too hard given the cost of labor in Pakistan and the budgets available to producers
You're right and it also reminds me of Starbucks cup in game of thrones series. It was funny and yet shows even the whole team of GOT can make mistakes . This is comparatively smaller scale project.. i agree with you but there is still a chance of mistake.
Amma pointed out all these issues in Yunhi's 1st episode and these were really important points. I wondered after watching Haute Review that how you guys missed it
I agree with Amna, Big production houses need to cast properly, if a girl is from abroad then cast actors who can pull off an accent, if they continue to give actresses like Maya work, she and many like her need to work on their character development before they get to set.
Sid and Kiara looked so simple and cute. Plus they had a very intimate wedding with their close family and friends which was so special.
There was nothing wrong with dressing of Dawood. That's how man dress for Namaz. Also note he was not dressed in regular shalwar qameez when he was leaving for work.
Plus, a child of Pakistani heritage grown up in US would never call someone dressed in shalwar qammez a terrorist. If she was a non Pakistani who lived in Southern belt of US, never came across a single person of another culture, not aware of Islamophobia, only followed Fox, then I would expect this type of behavior from that person.
Now Maya will be angry that Amina criticized her tone 😉
What an absolutely horrific experience to go through for the whole crew. Very sad that the locals committed these traumatic crimes, really feel terrible for the victims. Also, the locals have no idea what side benefits they will be losing. Our actors are definitely top notch world class actors who have to fight thru every step of their way & much more so for our female actors.
On transatlantic flights ppl always wear comfortable clothing mostly joggers & sweats. ( Juicy Couture is so 90s' Aamna :)) ) Business / first class usually wear non branded stuff. Bags maybe, but very rarely will I see luxury brands clothing. It's more the new money ppl ( Naw daulatiay) who will flaunt their brands. People are way more concerned abt thr 27 plus hour journey ahead from US and 15 hr. plus from Europe etc. Never have I ever seen anybody in tight jeans & definitely NEVER aa blazer. Showing off your clothing brand is also very outdated now. If you have a high end luxury bag/ accessory please don't show it off so blatantly as they do in Pakistan, it's quite vulgar seriously. Watching Saba Qamar in Sar e Rah the thing that kept distracting me was her pristine image. It was just Saba Qamar driving a taxi, not the character herself. Her spotless, well pressed clothes, manicured, perfect nails was a bit much. I SO miss Mehreen Jabbar dramas. Mehreen Jabbar is a perfectionist in this regard. Our actors / directors mostly care abt how their heroine looks instead of caring abt the character itself. Vanity really is the quicksand of reason.
Totally agree with you...Pakistani people tend to show off everywhere and everytime they are...lack of education and ethics ..I believe..😇
Guys, Dastaan ka Haute Gold kis sadi mein aayega? 🥲
I was gonna comment regarding same. Hassan, are you listening? Aamna gave you until Dec 15 to finish the drama phir kya hua?🤔
@@elenam4846 January 15 was the deadline. It is Feb 8 today. Pata nahin kab aayega!
I wouldn’t hold your breath guys. They have been promising us this review for nearly 3 years now.
@@saimafurdos5484 breath breath not hold 😆 u shuld b healthy active to witness review on Old is Gold . Dastaan or else.
I m watching Shehzoori ufff kiya cheez he Tara , shakeel in smart dressing Tara n Shakeel War fun type encounter 😄 Tara ful tarzan climbing walls trees bold n furious 😆 🤣 😂 I hv problem with her hair patha howa carpet tooti phooti jhaaro ( broom brush ).
I ll start watching
Kiran kahani
Old plays so entertaining I never knew shahzoori Kiran kahani etc treat for everyone.
Exactly Hassan miyan kab finish karogay yar.
Amna is so right, Saba qamar is too polished both physically and verbally in that character. Even her mum and future MIL were too dressed-up.
It’s more about attention to detail… In past, dramas were more realistic, Maat, Zindagi Gulzaar hey etc. Actors were more dedicated to build their characters.
Now a days, every girl in dramas has blow-dried hair, well-dressed attire and accent. All the males have the same Gel-based hair style, slim-fit shirts. Their mums are all dressed-up too. It’s lack of interest/communication between the team. The focus has shifted to glamour now.
I think that “terrorist” comment was needed because now she will realize how she was wrong about it and one should not be judged by the look. I saw lots of medals in his room so he is not only religious but also someone who has achieved in his life. This is the best way to clear the stereotype.. Everyone needs to chill out sometimes and aaj kal to koi bhi bat pe talware nikal dete hai log.. Love from India
Disagree! The word terrorist is the worse gali you can use for Pakistanis (living outside of Pakistan) especially in US. No one living in US would use that word.
@@sadiasaleem3551 May be as a outsider I don’t get why it’s making you upset.. But trust me hiding or not recognizing issues make it even worse.. Its better to openly discuss and get over it.. this is my opinion.. peace out ✌🏾
" Love from India " isi se hi pata chala gaya why you are defending this stupidity
I really don’t understand why they casted Maya. Clearly she didn’t put effort in her character. Even if writing was confusing but at least she should’ve worked on her English accent. You will never see that in any actors in Hollywood.
I was wondering the same. In Hollywood they have dialect coaches so no actor will ever come on screen without getting the accent right! I think it is a lazy approach on part of the actor
Also how is Maya Ali's hair so perfect after a long flight. It's so unrealistic.
Omg what the cast and crew of Aik Thi Laila and Nabeel Qureshi's film went through is so scary! I hope everyone injured gets well soon and the mob instigators get jailed. Something really needs to be done to ensure the security of the unit.
The whole stereotype discussion around daoud’s character is so pointless. Me and my husband are both pakistani who were born and raised in europe and we both come home from Work ( i am a Doctor and he is a lawyer) and we change into our shalwar kameez because we feel More comfortable That way at home. My dad who has been living in germany for 35 years goes to Jumma Prayers dressed like That. And seriously if you have ever been to the UK you will See a lot of desi People being dressed like That.
Having Said that… i completely agree with Amna that the « terrorist » remark was completely uncalled for esp. With all the islamophobia we face abroad every day.
I understand it was meant to be funny and might have Been necessary to create a misconception in Kim’s head about daoud’s character. But they could have achieved that with That taxi-driver remark as well cause most taxi drivers MIGHT be dressed like That in pakistan as shalwar kameez is our Qoumi Libas. Nothing wrong with That.
A child in Syria was born underneath the rubble, the child was fine but the mother died.
Yaaay! Your liner is back
Congrats Aamna that’s the first thing I noticed 😍 you look beautiful either way Masha Allah
MPHT: Maheer clothes were bought by Areeb’s family, so looking expensive is fine.
That’s why areeb was wearing very basic haha
in mujhey pyaar hua tha , maahir's bridal outfit was bought by Areeb so it makes sense for it to be expensive and high quality
Wow Amna RESPECTTTTTTT !!! when you said ChatGPT. It shows how well-aware You are of the world other than drama fashion and films :):)
Your channel - Hot Bites and Drama Reviews - helps me a lot in Canada. As a newcomer to Canada, I usually miss being in Pakistan, however, your channel let me connect with what has been happening in a very subtle way with some facts talking and solutions.
Moreover, I was just thinking about Wahab Bhugti - was thinking what happened to us after Kaana Yaari but Aamna, Hats off you. I feel, you have that understanding of going extra mile to use journalism for to discuss our societal issues.
Haniya's bridal was bought by Zaveiyar's character.....they've showed that
Its such a shame that the crew got attacked so badly those all attackers should be in jail asap 🤬🤬
wow... jackson heights was perfect, I have lived in NewYork for 5 years. bilkul aese he hota hai...aese lag raha tha k mein jackson heights mein phir rahi hon
I’ve seen a lot of comments that are very happy the actors and crew, which included elders and little kids, got attacked. I don’t think mob violence should never be encouraged or praised, ever. It’s quite scary how much of a mob mentality our people have and are quick to attack the ‘other’ or people on suspicion only or encourage or hype it up. Reminds me of the 2 Sialkot incidents. The attack on the actors was not just because of the noise issue, but because people think how dare they film things in our locations because the people attacking are usually riled up by someone and it could be them being against dramas, films, actors etc. Faysal Qureshi touched on this topic in a podcast actually & explained lots of places refuse filming of dramas because they think actors are not good people or they’re doing something morally wrong. Fair enough, but it was quite insightful to see that whereas actors are so famous in our country the stigma they still carry of being morally very bad people just for the line of work they’re in, is quite the oxymoron to see. Also, I’m sure the production must seek permission before shooting in the first place?
I worked on a Netflix production that had over a hundred background artists. There was a team of wardrobe, hair and makeup just for background. Keep in mind background artists are never featured on screen. Each background extra had a story and their hair / nails / eyelashes /clothes / props had to match the story. It really disappoints me to see when principle actors in Pakistani dramas don’t show the same attention to detail
Netflix is xtremely professional & definitely has a huge budget, plus the value of Pakistani Rupee getting on a daily basis doesn't help. Also, producers mostly spend on themselves & then on their lead / big name actors paycks & think they're done. The rest of the crew, they couldn't care less. How else would they be able to buy multiple luxury cars, bags, clothes etc. Income level is hugely disproportionate b/w actors & the rest of the crew kindda like what our designers have done to our kaarigars. Attention to detail is the least of their concerns. I just cringe the way they speak Urdu nowadays, It's absolutely pathetic. It's very ghetto Urdu that we hear in Pakistani dramas today. very sad.
@@zaraazeem5408 some responsibility falls on the actors too. They are all getting their hair makeup done eg. Kim coming from US, obviously money was spent on this look, her hair/ makeup / clothes etc. Why was the achieved look still not believable? Lack of commitment to the character, lack of research done on how a person would look after a 14 hour flight. Her look did not match her story. Same with Saba Q looking too polished in Sar-w-rah
I'm sorry but the actors in Pakistan don't have a team to do this work. Your statement doesn't say that the Netflix actors were doing this work themselves, so why are you 'disappointed' that Pakistani actors are not doing for themselves what a team did for the Netflix actors??? This is the problem with people who use Netflix as an example. You are not comparing a like-for-like situation. Be realistic!!
@@MeemBaay111 are you saying Maya Ali does not have someone doing her hair / make up? Where is she getting her clothes from? The actors absolutely have a team and access to a good chunk of change. Especially top tier actors. It seems like their goal is more to look “good” then look how that CHARACTER would in THAT situation.
I am not saying Pak dramas can afford a team for background extras like Netflix, obviously. But at least the main actors who already have teams can use common sense / do research for their character
Actually they broke the stereotype hero image, the audience is just used to flashy looking lead men...
Well done to this drama where they are showing our normal society men who dresses up in shslwar qameez, they are regular in prayers and at work they wear trousers shirts as per office needs.
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I feel like the Bilal-Maya-Terrorist scene achieved the exact opposite response to what the makers set out to make.
Yunhi!!! OMG my brother always come to pick me at the airport at Fajir in exactly same dress.
Exact same.
Only after your 'haute gold' on Jackson Heights, I watched the drama. And later, visited the place. The drama.was beautiful
wearing shalwar kameez doesnt make anyone inferior
I really feel sad about what happened on the set with the team of Nabeel Q's project, i cannot imagine how scary that must've been. F9 incident i just can't even bare to talk or think about it .. then turkey/syria.. too much, pray for Allah's mercy is all i can say... Allah reham farmai
Glad you raised the details issue. In todays episode of Tere Bin Murtasim had a pillow when Meerub runs to call his father for help. And when they come back, the pillow is gone. Murtasim is unconscious and there is none else in the room. Kahan gaya pillow? 🤦🏽♀️I think this is a blunder!
Totally agree with you guys on Bilal's appearance. He's a hero and they are showing his character in +ve way. :)
Even in Ishq Jalebi, the cousins from abroad didn’t have the right accent.
Muslims abroad are clearly aware of the implications of stereotyping. People should research before showing highly irresponsible dramas as 'character'.
I totally agree with Amna's views on Maya's accent and styling. I don't agree with people comparing it with Mahira's accent in TLOMJ as they are completely different things. TLOMJ wasn't based on reality but in a world of its own with no standard to compare with. However Maya's lack of accent is important here because it is part of her character,she doesn't look convincing as an overseas Pakistani. She looks more like herself. Bilal on the other hand looks more the part with normal shalwar qameez not the fitted kurta pajama and Johny Bravo hairstyle that many other actors do when they play middle class ordinary Pakistani man. Ahmad Ali Akbars demeanor,his walk,posture,dressing played an important part in making his character so relatable and real despite story moving away from reality in "parizaad".
I like the drama "Yunhi" and I hope that somehow story's focus shifts from her coming from abroad(as an overseas Pakistani her poor depiction takes away from her performance for me).
I agree. The whole plot seems to be based on the contrast between the characters and their background. Her accent bothered me so much. I will just have to assume she’s a modern liberal girl who was raised in Pakistan. Haah!
90% of the whole Pakistani boys on Fridays and 100% of all Pakistani men on Eids look like Bilal inside and OUTSIDE of Pakistan (above or below ankle) Writing was very weak for Mayas character unfortunately. She not only doesnt know how pakistani attire is, she doesnt know American accent all too well too. Anyways.
We should definately reflect eik lamha lagta hai sab khatam honey mein but this realisation comes very late in life.
Thank you Aamna for pointing out the way Maya was dressed at the airport after such a long flight how can someone look so perfect.
So glad you dedicated an entire segment to production quality.
The set, outfits, etc should all represent the strata of society that is being shown.
Characters that are shown to have been born and brought up abroad should have accents. Especially when the premise is cultural difference between the lead characters. Desi larka and angrez larki… Maya Ali just does not come across as an “angrez ” and it takes away from the viewing experience. It bothered me every time she would speak.
Dear Amna maybe that was maa Begum’s wedding outfit passsd down like everything else
The problem is our stars are needlessly influenced with Bollywood movies showing the likes of Katrina kaif and depika arriving exactly like that at airports in movies but ironically if you see real pictures of the same stars at airports , they are wearing such cool trackies and hoodies .. Zero points for Maya’s style sense ..Quoting Maya from Something haute’s interview that we know that log pagal nahi hain with the presence of Netflix and all so if she knows then why didn’t she think about what would an America returned desi wear in a long haul flight , how would she talk and walk..
Tanhaiyan and Dhoop Kinaray has girls wearing shalwar qameez and looked smarter than girls who are shown to return from a western country where they wear western outfits and still look uncomfortable in them. It is a body language thing.
Kim calling Daud is stereotypical. Even if they show him as a hero and she falls in love with him, calling him a terrorist just based on his looks and dressing, it propagates. I mean c’mon the west is copying/adopting our designs, our sherwanis, veil, embroidered designs, makeup and even our cuisine and music … and here our writers/actors/dramas are showing this. These people need to get out of this complex. We should take pride in our identity. And even if he was wearing surma so what … if Johnny/rockstars can wear smoky eyes and kohl it’s all good if our men wear it, then label as a terrorist no matter how … the hypocrisy! 🤷🏻♀️ Who decides that wearing a traditional outfit makes one backward or like a terrorist. Also, agar hum chahte hain ke log stereotype na kerein, toh humein khud stereotype nahi kerna chahiye. It’s as simple as that.
i am pakistani american... maya ki dressing 100% ghalat thi. aur outfit?? seriously?? aese aik banda dress up nahi hota
Didn't HSY also dress like that in PSM?
In Yunhi: Maya’s character who speaks urdu is a daughter of a Pakistani calling Bilal’s character a terrorist was a bit stupid…I don’t think those whose Parents have migrated to the West will ever behave in such a way & yes her English accent or urdu was not at all of a girl who has always lived in the West. Sorry Maya is not very impressive so far.
Thanku very much for the honest review of yunhi drama serial .
Bilal ki misrepresentation bilkul nai he. Mere sare cousins aese dressing karte hen . Nd they all are highly educated
Yunhi - Billal Abbas dressed up in shalwar kameez is not an issue. The issues is Maya Ali perceiving him as such. What kind of a sicko kind she is to label someone as terrorist based on the clothes !!! I have no respect for that character she portrayed and displayed. And to show that on a t.v serious. 🙄 big minus to the director and story writer.
He's Bilal Ashraf not Bilal Abbas
The Urdu accent seeps through the actors’ English, even if it’s just a word and it is so off-putting. In addition to those you’ve mentioned in the video-Mariam and Hamza (who was Australia return) in MH. Meerub, who is shown to be a city girl in Tere bin also has these issues.
The articulation and pronunciation of words, for eg., impress-> empress etc should be worked upon.
Our actors are such hard workers, they should give some time to pronunciation and articulation too. ❤
Similar is the case of posh actors playing LMI. This is an issue across dramas, can’t single out one coz all have the problem.
ZGH aced these challenges IMO. The transition of Kashaf and her family is palpable and how. Kashafs look changes when she becomes an officer, she has nail paint, a watch, those Pearl studs. And then the transformation post wedding. These little things make huge difference.
I couldn't resonate with Kim's character. So tone-deaf and strange! Responsible writing is crucial please don't trivialize things. And then lack of accent didn't help either. 🙄 I think someone who can pull off at least a basic English accent and better acting skills would have been more suitable! But let's see how it unfolds.
I didn't bother to watch the whole episode once she associated that terrorist word to the character representing a good follower! I mean, who does that? My all family born and brought up abroad, not a single time any one of us passed such degrading remarks on anyone neither outsider nor in the family. What are they trying to portray? So big no for that drama!
Kya matlab marriage dress ghalat tha Tere Bin main. The girl didnt choose her dress, she wasnt interested in getting married so she didnt care about how she carried it. It looks like something her mother in law would buy. The only problem with Yumna is she needs to use some face lifting technique. Her nasolabial fold is twice as long as her ”mother in laws” ….
As for any man would marry ”the other bride”…… isnt that an insult to the men? Theres not an iota of innocence, genuineness, dignity or grace in the other bride.
Yunhi.. about bilal's appearance.. it was very normal for him to go in his shalwar kameez as he had just finished his prayer and later he is shown that he wears dress pants to go to work and intentionally they showed medals and awards in his room to establish and normalize smart ppl who can excell in academics and still b able to carry a beard and offer namazain regularly... i actually appreciate that part... but the annoying thing was that they showed that ppl coming from abroad have never seen any practicing Muslim around them ever ... who can look a certain way and still b as normal as any other intelligent person ... even after her father had told her that he is my brothers son... I mean come on.....
Using the term Terrorist against a person is not funny . If this had been on an American channel, there would have even a lot of hue and cry on trying to normalize islamophobia on TV. Also only an ignorant person living in some backwaters of America would make such a remark . People in America,especially over the past decade, have become very sensitive and politically correct. Clearly the writer hasn’t interacted with educated Pakistani Americans
Very shocked and sad to hear about the incident of Hira Mani.
My family living in us have next generation born in US highly educated from universities ,girls wear trousers long shirts scarves and some of them wear hijab,eastern outfits now readily available in US
Bilal character is not misrepresentation but Maya comment so offense and disgusting.Living in the UK my whole life and I would never look at anyone and call them terrorist.
I feel like there’s more to Kim’s character. It was only the first episode & even though her accent wasn’t good but she barely spoke. Why not wait to find out more about the character & how she was brought up?
Mann the hira mani crew attack incident is so spine chilling
I completely agree. Maya Ali attire, and her dialect was so so off. I can think of so many superb lead actresses who have an accent. Kubra Khan for example could have done so much justice to the character! And yes Yumnas makeup is so bad. She needs to have a stylist definitely
Hassan; loads of love from Bombay India.We love your and Aaminas camaraderie & you spoke so well about the production values:
IMO, there are a lot of Muslims who also have a lot of stereotypes about their own community. IG, they wanna show how she realizes her mistakes, her inherent Islamophobia and becomes more aware by the end of the show.
Yunhi Maya big miss fit. Wrong out fit. Who wears heels in aeroplane ???????? .
Not getting the accent right is a huge problem. I mean, wearing western clothing is just not enough to make a character believable. I mean has anyone seen Tár and the lengths the brilliant Cate Blanchett went to, to prepare for her role to play an acclaimed conductor for the Berlin Philharmonic. She hired piano teachers, conductors, movement coaches and German dialect coaches herself. Not for one second you question that authenticity, the fabric, the interwoven unique, idiosyncrasies that come with being a conductors to an acclaimed orchestra. Similarly, there are certain traits, idiosyncrasies that come with being a Pakistani American.
I recall Wahaj Ali telling us how he tried to perfect the Bengali accent for Jo bichar, but just like you don’t have drama schools, nor additional support for the actors, in Pakistan, this support is found in Hollywood, where budgets are assigned to assist the actor in getting into the skin of the character! cate Blanchett has that support,as was Colin Firth in The Kings speech , or Charlize Theron in the monster! It’s not left only to the actor, and there is a whole industry of voice and accent coaches to cosmetic artist, costume designers! Even the British Indian actor Dev Patel was sent to australia with a voice coach helping him perfect his Australian accent to do the film The Lion( which he said was really hard to do)! I’m just impressed at the myriad of talent you have in your actors, it’s time they are supported!
Kiara and Sidharth are the most loved couple of Bollywood….they are gorgeous and the whole of India was eagerly waiting to get a glimpse of their wedding…wish them all the love ❤❤….also please don’t mind Sidharth playing Majnu…both the countries don’t accurately represent the other country in their dramas and films and films are anyway not taken as a source of truth…moreover, he had signed this film 5 years back and he himself is not anti-Pakistan which is evident from his personality, he has never spoken anything bad about any country….he even said in an interview that it’s a narrative and he played his part…love and peace to all ❤
I mentioned the travel looks earlier! Love Amina for bringing it up❤️
Tbh I know people who wear sweats on the flights but change when the plane is about to land. So commenting on her outfit was a bit out there. I would’ve loved to give my two cents on Maya’s accent cause I had doubts but the background score was a little high for me to even hear her dialogues properly. Also people who live outside of Pakistan are way more in tuned with what’s going on in Pakistan than people think. If they had shown them coming from a European non English speaking country the accent wouldn’t have been an issue at all. Because they all have accents in English. And people did go to other countries besides US for med schools. I found the t word jarring because most Muslims who’ve lived in the US post 9/11 wouldn’t use the word lightly, no matter the context. Yes it would’ve been believable had she just commented on Dawood’s attire or looked at it funny. Also Buffalo is no where near the Bible Belt lol.
Hania, I think puts effort into her looks. Like Ayeza. Her Walima look in Mere humsafar was perfect and she looked ethereal. She maintained the upper class wife look post wedding. Same with the lovely wedding look in MPHT. She dresses in a way to accentuate her features.
Yumna, a gorgeous adaakaara, should definitely put in some thought into her looks as well. Her styling seems to be outsourced to the production team which doesn’t put much thought into it. She’s a rich asf bride yaar but her trousseau except the maroon red suit of the last episode is nothing but underwhelming. The less said about the wedding look the better.
Plz do Haute Gold on Daastan and dur e shawar..
Amna ji aapki eye health ki safety ko priority. Humble suggestion n request take a break 4 to 6 weeks if possible. Wish you full recovery n absolute health and prosperity
Being an Indian (an ardent fan of Pakistani dramas and stars and something haute), i too was smirking at that scene from "Yun Hi", where she called him terrorist. I was like, itna raula pa rhe the Pakistan Wale jab abhi hamari film mein hum ne Aisa ek ladka dikhaya tha... Aur khud apne drama mein dikha rhe hain.. but great job calling it out. You guys live up to expectations.
On other note, India is not habitual seeing salwar kameez guys with topis on heads as it's not Muslim dominated area.
So they find every person dressed like that a terrorist. It's not their fault. Please teach us politely. I toh personally understand that very well but please if you see such an Indian with those judgements, teach them nicely. Make your point clear to them.
It would bridge a great relationship between both countries. ❤️
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I think when Maya says "He looks like a terrorist" - the team was knocking a trope is what i felt.
i agree amna, deepak parwani ka perfect tha outfit.