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The most important EVO match (Daigo vs iDom analysis)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2022
- iDom was America's best shot to take Evo 2022 in Street Fighter - but everybody knew he'd have to make it through Daigo first! Let's break down exactly how these two titans played their set, and what made iDom the better player on that fateful day!
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Amazing thumbnail
that's... why I'm here.
I don't even play or watch street fighter, but you made it super understandable to understand what was going on, great breakdown man
Thank you!
In depth analysis of pro games by pro players is probably my favorite type of fighting game video. I love hearing the thought process and the breakdown of the decision making. This was a great video, tysm Mr. F
iDom has one of the smartest 'aggressive' game plans in the game today. Lots of people get credit for smart play when they play defensive characters, but iDom really uses that same skill set for aggression better than almost anyone else.
People give credit when daigo successfully defends a mixup but not when someone lands one usually
@@Clarkbardoone I get you. But that being said, defending a mixup is way harder than applying it.
@@TheOxiongarden I agree
I think a good defense shows skill while a good mix up represents creativity
@@Clarkbardoone Yeah that's also true. But in some case, you can just flowchart some mixups. While defense can't be autopilot.
There's a lot of mixups I just stole frop twitter and TH-cam. It's a 50/50 so anybody can get hit, but when I encounter some really good defense, it's always so impressive
This analysis is so good! Would love to see more vids like this one
Yes
Awesome set, I was going crazy when I saw it live. I did not know how many small details and frame advantages were actually happening. Thanks for the breakdown!
Idom made Daigo spend meter on EX Booms so much by the end of the set, I don't think I have ever seen him get so desperate to get someone off him, considering Daigo has like 20+ years of experience, that says a lot
True but not 20 years experience against Laura of sf5 lol. I hear you though!
@@nutritionislife3054 Exactly.
That's pretty much how Daigo play when he's cornered. He did that all the time in SFL Japan.
I think that's the biggest difference between Daigo and Higuchi's Guile. Daigo love to spent it on ex booms while Higuchi usually prefer to spent the meter for CA.
Game 2 R1 was probably the most dominant round for Daigo. Completely controlled every neutral situation, had the right response to nearly every situation, and just kept Idom from doing much of anything.
Which is weird because that is where it all falls apart. I dunno what Idom started doing differently but from Game 2 R2 on, it was basically a wash. Even rounds Daigo wins you can tell he is just a mistake away from being blown up again.
Also damn I had no idea that is what was going on with the backjump jab of Diagos. I thought Daigo just messed up a command or something and accidently jumped backward with a button. Had zero clue that if Idom did not block high he would of lost that round due to a very weird hitbox technicality with meaty jump ins.
That's insane. Wow
the thumbnail is such a juxtaposition, I love it
How do you defeat a man who is so incredibly unhinged that he has a pillow specifically for his cheeseits.
Thx Brian for the break down. Would love to see more!
Still can't believe IDOM lost grand finals. Feels like we fell into the darkest timeline...
Im sayin, imagine how Idom felt sheesh
Nah, darkest time lines was back in the day when all of top 8 was from Asia
@@iorilamia why?
Great analysis Brian, loved it.
9/10 thumbnail, would be 10/10 if the cheezits were circled and labeled 'cheezits'
Not until Kellogg's check clears
I loved all of top 8, but I wont lie when I say I would have loved to see Daigo get the big W in the (possibly) last SFV tourney at EVO
the thumbnail is my new happy place
Absolutely insane. Your commentary/analysis elevated the match even further. Thanks 👍🏽
Seriously, that block of Daigo's instant overhead was GODLIKE! Usually I root against him because he's TOO dominant, but I was bummed he fell to Kawano.
I've been watching your content for a while now and this plus your race for the stun combo video are your best work. You're great at match analysis
Novice fan of the game here. I think your analysis is fantastic. Really love hearing about all the technical wizardry at play during this match! Thanks!
It's funny because I love watching Idom play, but he just posted a video where he went over this match annnndddd he said very little! Thank you for giving a lot of context and nuance to what was a very entertaining match :)
04:16 “i wis there was a bikini for ryu” truly a man of culture
Does he have a thong outfit if you use the easter egg code on the Jin costume
Doesn't*
I feel Daigo did the best against Idom.. well before Kuwano finally made adjustments after 100 games
Kuwano literally won on a stray hit, Daigo def did the best
Ryan Hart sent Idom to losers tho
@@caiooa well, we can agree that daigo did best against idom's laura
Yeah, if we're talking about who did the best against him in this tournament in a first to three it'd be Ryan lol. Daigo would be second, and then Kawano third unless there were closer matches Idom had before top 8.
@@caiooa true , but the steaks are higher in Top 8 though! Fourth quarter under 3 minutes game on the line fam!
Idom had to go SSJ mode to reach top 8
Winners finals felt like a wild bloodbath after Kawano went up 2-0. I loved that match.
Superb analysis. Exquisite.
That st.lk to Flash kick…in tournament!? God-Like!
Been watching all your videos over the last few months and this was some of the best sfv content cuz it helps understand what makes these sets so magical. Keep it up!
I don't even play SF but I love these breakdowns! I wish you played my games, so I could actually use your breakdowns to improve. Keep the match analysis coming! Some of the rare FGC content that I can listen to in the background while I work.
Thank you for this Brian, looking forward to your break down of the finals
That honestly would have been huge if he didn't miss that sweep at the end.
quick little tip for all the lads that aren't on youtube terminally, if you hold shift and press , or . it'll slow down or speed up the video by 25%, saw brian was struggling with switching the speed
The best thumb nail he’s ever made. Wait no close second to what was he cooking
Great analysis!
1) I would love a Ryan Hart breakdown if you can find footage. He always seems to approach games and matchups in a unique way
2) Was Idom using Poison when playing Ryan? You seemed to imply that in this video but perhaps you misspoke.
Ryan uploaded the game on his youtube. th-cam.com/video/gOueo7JmhhM/w-d-xo.html
He used poison for game 1 vs Ryan's sagat, lost then switched to laura. Beat Ryan's sagat with Laura then lost to his ryu. He said he was hesitant to use poison at all on ps4 then said that after the Ryan hart set he definitely won't use poison for the rest of the tournament
Ryan Hart has uploaded the set on his channel AND uploaded an analasys. Go watch it after you watch this video lol
@@Brian_F O! I missed where this match made Idom make that decision.
I initially thought that Idom made this decision prior to the tournament. My apologies
Not on topic per say and that Grand Finals was amazing regardless, but I do still have to say that Kawano-Idom is still technically 1-1. Happy to wait to see what happens next time they play.
Love your breakdowns and commentary
Why is nobody talking about how the thumbnail destroyed us all?
Oh yeah I re analyzed too on the top 8 live. The amount of ex dash grabs sneaked in were something else lol. And he was a stray hit off losing the set on game 4 too haha.
Daigo Umehara is the Fernando Alonso of fighting games. What a legend.
>tries and fails to tierwhore
>settles with a great at best character
yeah I see it
Probably more like Ayrton Sena.
IDOM is IDOL.
DAIGO is living legend
Damn, and here I wanted to see what the spread on the Daigo vs. CHEEZ-ITS matchup was.
The thumbnail is what made me click this video!!
Hey I don't get the the thumbnail reference. You mind explaining
Ah damn, I thought he was actually playing the set the way he was in the thumbnail 😂
I need that Daigo thumbnail
It’s crazy how ps4 has about 1 more frame of input lag than PC but it was literally the difference between winning and losing to idom. Of course Ryan Hart’s play is no slouch either, he executed his game plan well.
Ps4 can have up to 3 more frames of input delay depending on how optimized your setup is
@@Brian_F evo setups…
At 11:40, that Daigo sequence. It was to put his adversary back 8nto place. He went full offence...lets see how that turned out.
I’m learning so much from this I’m a Laura player and I’m trying to really devolop my skills to learn her these videos are fantastic Brian
That daigo pic is unironically my phone wallpaper lmao
love your videos brian i cant wait to see the sf6 videos
0:51 hmm
10:16 and it just keeps on. Hooph
10:42 damn
11:32 daigo sequence yohoho
12:38 oh my god bro they do it so consistently.
13:31 I did try it with oro the st.mp dp corner extension thing yes. It can be extremely frustrating at times tho lol.
15:51 damn son.
17:13 ahahaha
18:25 yup. Damn the layers bro
19:56 I got hit. Completely.
21:04 me neither
22:05 hooo man
also dont forget the fact that guile cant Vtrigger cancel second hit of sweep
The thumbnail was peak, i had to click on the video.
Thanks for giving the scoop on why iDom stayed away from Poison.
where can i save that thumbnail please
Thanks for doing this analysis. IMO this was easily the best set of Top 8.
"Punish your attempted whiff punish" sounds like some dragon ball fighterz right der
i loved that thumbnail
In Idom's video, he said he started to jump over those Sonic Booms later in the set, because he realized Daigo would always throw a Boom after blocking Laura's crouch Fierce.
the glazing is crazy
Brian_F upload wooooo
Now I believe you already know this Brian on some conscious or subconscious level...
The thumbnail is Godly my brother, as far as I'm concerned it's S-tier or Warlord Rank.
Man, I forgot how good Idom's run was. This whole set was god like and dude is a straight tactician.
I was there! Legendary set!
I enjoyed this content
Did idom hit a button last second before he landed, when daigos low fierce whiffed? Or was that landing animation?
New to the game. What I can’t understand is how does Daigo cast sonic boom and sonic kick so fast? When learning Guile, you have to hold back for a while before you can hit forward and button for it to come out. Same with his anti air kick, you need to hold down for much longer that it seems Diago is. Why is that? What is he doing so he can basically spam those moves whenever he feels like it?
That’s b/c Daigo is using a hitbox (cheatbox). Hitbox has major advantages over stick and pad.
when it’s iDom everything is plus, even whiffed elbow
That Meaty Overhead wheel kick... I have PTSD as a Claw player...
kilzyou vs daigo was the most exciting match i ve seen
Damn, literally when the notificaction come
If 2023's CPT is still done on console, that will signal that Capcom still simply doesn't get it. Like you said: Idom was forced to use a single character because the extra latency would have thrown him off when using Poison, and from that it's fair to say the deciding factor was that he had more experience playing Laura on a laggy platform and the mishaps that can occur from mis-timed inputs are less catastrophic with Laura. The brutal reality? Offline tournaments in 2022 were more legit, full stop. Because everyone played *on PC* with minimized latency. They played at their fullest. Even if online lag was a factor, it was by no means the kind of roadblock that 3 ever-present and needless frames of lag is.
I can’t wait for sf6 and idom plays Manon and we get the idom only wins with the command grab stacking meme
when me and my friends where watching this sets game 1 we couldn't pay attention because of the spinning Indian man in the background. so watching this video is kinda like watching this set for the first time.
I have a question about what vrian called the most important block in the tourney. why was it important I'm no sf expert but wasnt guile like plus fifteen or so on that jump in? in other words why would the laura drop the block in that scenario? please someone explain to me cause in my experience almost every jump in is plus some amount of frames
ok i rewatched the next segment and finally understood why it was important. didnt know that about cr. blocks
your content my man 🤌🤌🤌
Damn, Daigo can eat Cheez-Its and play in tournament at the same time? Wish I was that good.
Daigo did his best against a laura player knowing that Japan has no Laura who is at Idom's level...On the other hand Guile Pro player can be easily found in any region of the world..
Yeah iDom is a unique and special talent doing something no one else has done before! Good input The Anime Guy
@@Brian_F Idom's Laura has no equal not even in NA let alone Japan region... So there was no way Daigo was winning this one still he managed to get this close was really good from Daigo's side and ofcourse Idom was at his best...
It may sound funny that Daigo didn't get enough practice against Laura but this is somewhat true as you will never see him playing against any Laura in his streams..Only Laura I know in Japan is Bono Bono but he is nowhere near Idom...Idom would murderstomp Bonobono Negative diff..
The problem in this MU for daigo is that is hard to do damage fast with guile, that means that idom will almost always have his vtrigger wich changes the game, i still think is a solid match up for guile, but laura is damgerous still
love your content brian. much love
Holy shit that thumbnail is gdlk lol
"Coming back from a 2-0 is almost impossible" *flashbacks to screaming myself hoarse cheering for iDom in grand finals only for what happened to happen*
I love watching Daigo's Guile. Most Guiles' neutral and defense feel like a glass castle where its hard to get in but you crack it once and it all falls apart. Daigo forces his opponents to lockpick every single door in his fortress and it's beautiful. Plus optimized charge and combos are sick.
I bet iDom would have been a killer Makoto player
I think old man Daigo gonna be one to watch in SF6... I think the new mechanics is what he been waiting for
Those comments above your head are the star of this video
Idom beat Caba @ Combo Breaker this year. I wonder if that match is what gave Idom second thoughts about playing Poison against Guile on PS4.
Clicked for the thumbnail, alright peace.
breakdown every top8 match. want want want.
I don’t know why Daigo doesn’t change from Guile to Honda …. I mean he dose play Honda very nicely
Yeah we know how the Kawano matchup went down. Idom won more rounds and more matches in total. Unfortunately, EVO is not Topanga or even E-League-the ruleset is designed to sift through the most attendees in the least time, as opposed to determining who's the best.
Happy birthday
Laura becomes top tier if the enemy doesn't know how to deal with thunderclap
Bruh the chat at 4:12
I remember watching finals with my friend, and he said "aw damn, IDOM is up against Daigo, I guess he's finished" and I told him, "Nah, IDOM can win this"
the thumbnail lmao
I think I need to watch vids like this more often. I play Laura and learned some new things about her. Glad he was able to take this character to the heights that he has cuz nobody thought she was viable until idom said "hold my beer!"
SF6 needs to have a commentator DLC pack with Match Analysis by you, Smug, MDZ jimmY, Sajam, and Punk.
This video is the best Laura guide I've watched and that's not even really the point of the video lol.
Why you do Daigo like that in the thumbnail?
That wast tasty!
Pretty sad that Capcom's "premier" fighting game can't have consistent input delay across platforms AND that they have to run on ps4 because of availability issues, would have loved to see iDom's Poison but his reasoning is legit
This is an issue across pretty much every game. Ps4 architecture + ue4 engine caused problems. But it's becoming more of a priority for devs since everyone complains so much.
@@Brian_F Makes sense, here's hoping that with the RE engine SF6 has fewer issues! Cheers Brian and thx for the content