Little Brother Speaks On Their Comeback Album & Details 9th Wonder's Absence
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2019
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INTERNETS! On this episode of The Premium Pete Show, Pete kicks it with Phonte & Rapper Big Pooh of LITTLE BROTHER!
Phonte & Pooh speak unfiltered on how an impromptu performance at the Art of Cool festival last year brought them back together, the ups and downs of their friendship, their growth, how their new album "May the Lord Watch" came together, Their love for Combat Jack! Advice to younger artist’s and why 9th Wonder wasn’t involved in their comeback project and so much more!
Pay attention cause Little Brother dropped GEMS on this one! Kick back, Relax + PRESS Play, CHEA!
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I wanna hear them 2-3 tracks tho..
lol!!
Word lmao. I really don’t understand sometimes with them. The first time when they were describing the departure with 9th blowing up and them working in sessions with 9th just giving them cds of beats and then bouncing. I get it. I get where the animosity started. But this one is him wanting full input which is what they wanted from him before. So THEN 9th takes a little step back with saying ok I’ll do festivals and Flash do the other dates. The man has a label and artists. Y’all aren’t the same and he’s not the same as well. It’s just unfortunate how it turned out. But this wasn’t the same way as the departure last time. They wanted 9th more and then now when he steps back in, they still want to do their shit and he’s like well what did u want me for? Lol. He’s not a rapper. He breathes beats. Hundreds of beats a year. The man is a genius. I get where 9th is coming from on this one. And Phonte is also amazing as well in his realm as a producer. And Pooh too. But damn, everyone wishes they could’ve reached a compromise. This doesn’t seem like 9th’s fault at all on this one.
DJ Rashad Hayes I definitely wanna hear 9th’s side of the story.
@@JayLa76 Word
EP, 7" something!
Phonte: It's not a issue "then explains the issue" lmao
lmao
That's how explaining past issues work.....
It's not an issue when you already made up your mind about the situation and let it be.
Thanks Phonte for keeping it a buck as it pertains to 9th. This dude been feeling himself ever since he got the Jay stamp on Black Album.
Dealow Morgan yup 9th done got himself caught up on that Roc Nation money
They dropped a documentary and basically started excluding him from the group from the get go 💀 then started catching attitudes
I knew it... Nuff said. Alchemist, Black Milk, Apollo Brown, Premo, Madlib, Khrysis, Soul Council anybody can fill in and make that classic sound. Let 9th groom Rapsody into a superstar she destine to be.
@Kwamu Hill facts!!
Nah, Rapsody has made good music.
Rapsody overrated? You crazy.
Overrated?? What!! Just her flow her content what else you want? It's time for her to shine she been doing this for a while just everybody late to the party
I ain’t checkin for no Rapsody breh I’m checkin for LB
Looking back at this after hearing the two "Don And Eye" projects that 9th dropped with Musalini, Phonte and Pooh made the right decision of their careers for the sake of LB
Agreed. They basically said they weren’t feeling most of the beats they were getting from him. It is what it is. The album was great, and Khrysis, Nottz, Black Milk, Focus…are some incredible producers. I hope they resolve any differences they have as men, but musically I’m not too worried about it. LB knows how to get the beats they need.
Pooh going directly to his phone ehwn Phonte was telling the story is the classic "I wants NOOOOO parts of this" response lol
Right 😂! Pooh like “ ‘Te I love you but you on ya own with this one 🤷🏾♂️”
Murs mentioned how he hates working with 9th they actually dont get along in the studio, and how when their done an album, he doesn't want to see him again, but he keeps going back because its magic.
You got the link to that interview?
I was n Cats Cradle when MURS announced 9th was asked 2 leave. They had a project called The Final Adventure yet did work afterwards. My bro was talking 2.a woman that was on The Listening who said 9th didnt care 4 Buckshot
This is really simple in my eyes.. the art just needs to be organic. It wasn’t, and they stepped away. LB for life!
When they said 9th just sent them beats & they were left 2 their vision
Damn, 9th. Really?
So, 9th can work tirelessly on Rapsodys shit but, for whatever reason, he couldn’t put in the same work ethic on the home teams reunion album?
Jozeemo also blew up on 9th lmao
Did he go to every single rapsody event???
@WillieGreen
What the hell are you talking about?
Fuck 9th for this
What are y’all talking about? To me 9th tried everything to be apart of this project. Even asking to dj at certain events so he wouldn’t take it fully away from dj Flash. It seems Phonte and Pooh weren’t impatient. There was an interview where he said, he needed 9th to send them beats that didn’t sound like little Brother tracks. And then Phonte started to listen to other producers beats and came to 9th like yeah let’s put other producers on the project. To me that’s messed up. If you decide before anything that it will be a reunion album with all 3 of you. Then why the hell would want other producers on the album? Leave that for solo projects. I can’t blame 9th for this one. He probably felt blind sided.
Damn he’s says there’s no beef, but it sure does sound like it. Here we go again.
Souldrum86 but you’re not getting him. There is clarity now. 9th is too big to stay in LB which is fine. He obviously prioritize what he has going on for himself than little brother. That’s clarity, do what makes you happy. How is that beef?
Baysix Bitiyong I get it, but when you here the tone at least in Phonte’s voice he sounds pissed. Especially when he said it was bullshit when shouted out the new album. This is very reminiscent of 10 years ago when the spit happened. He even called him a narcissist
@@souldrum86 its just the truth and he said for something to happen twice is a feature so I agree with you but if you don't get it by now then let me spell it out. Little brother as a trio is done.
Baysix Bitiyong again I get it lol as a fan of little Brother to point where I remember where I was when I heard the listening. This is disappointing to hear. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
Baysix Bitiyong also it’s one thing to be done as a group, but this feels like they’re even done as being homies. Just my take away
Major props on having one of my favorite groups of all time on...
This guys made my youth. And the new album is making my days
I can understand both sides of the story here. It's just a shame they're still having these issues 15 years after dropping an absolute masterpiece. Hopefully they can rectify it and make an official LB reunion album in the future. The world needs it
that was their official album. means that 9th isnt a member
Been waiting and stressing for this one I got mad love for Lil Brother, I am gonna miss tremendously 9th's production settle any differences my dudes life is TOO SHORT for things left unsaid
"If this is love i don't wanna see hate..."
That’s my joint
AYO PETE!!! AS A LB FAN. I'VE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO BUILD ON THIS...AND YOU GOT IT.
i’ve always felt that energy from 9th towards LB . somewhat of a control freak with it or somewhat narcissistic (just from the outside looking in) this album was a great album , Te and Pooh delivered for sure .
But him and 9th cool and make music together all the time 🤷🏾♂️
jjbing3 When’s the last time they made music together? As far as I know, it was in 2011 when they were on each other’s albums, and on Median’s album. I’m not aware of anything they’ve done together since then.
Skyzoo said everything isn't wonderful n the world. People think because u r linked 2 them u automatically blow. M1 platoon, Thee Tom Hardy, Skyzoo etc it happens
@@jons5658 yep 2011 with Phonte’s “Charity’s Starts at Home 🏡 “
@@91Definite actually I was wrong. Phonte did a song on the first Jamla Is The Squad album, which was 2014z
Thank you Thank you. The Truth! I’m playing May The Lord Watch RIGHT NOW- Good morning Sunshine ☀️
I appreciate Te and Pooh's candidness. I also appreciate how classy The Premium Pete Show is. At least the headline wasn't a Vlad type "Phonte Calls 9th Wonder a Narcissist" or sum shit like that...
VLAD would do some shit like that.
I always will have a spot n my heart 4 9th. He gave my rap group our 1st show off a open mic.but o cam recognize the divide
"I stopped thinking that rappers and producers was my friends
'cause "it's a wonderful world" til they cutting out the odds
And it turns out loyalty just wasn't in their cards..."
"Sweet Pursuit" by Skyzoo...the illest rapper 9th EVER had on his roster.
I love 9th Wonder, Lord knows I do...but between THIS and LB's problems with him, it goes without saying that something just ain't right. 9th's got so much explaing to do...because you know what they say about people who forgot where they came from.
I have to respectfully disagree. I like Skyzoo but pound for pound I'll take Pooh or Phonte over him.
Lyrically it's a wash... but when it comes to mic cadence and showmanship, Skyzoo isn't on the same level with Phonte or Pooh in all honesty.
@@ousamaabdu794 I was talking about Skyzoo being the best 9th signed under his own Jamla Records roster. Pooh and Tay aren't under Jamla. And yes, I too would rather have a new LB album (with ALL THREE OF THEM) over another Jamla project.
@@phillipwattsjr.4714 I see I see. Respect to you Brotha.
I gotta keep it a stack.. I'm a 9th Wonder fan, but I think 9th has done better work outside of LB. And the beats on this album were straight up napalm! Overall, I would say I think LB are better off without 9th.
I've been a Hip Hop Head since 1990 and this is in my Top 10 albums ever, maybe even top 5. From top to bottom is was perfection. Seemed like Phonte and Pooh felt refreshed that 9th wasn't contributing.
@@ousamaabdu794yea and they seem more happier as well
The Miles Davis reference cleared things up very nicely for me.
Jack Tejada - Miles is the GOAT...
9th, you're in my top 5 of favorite producers. And Little Brother is my 2nd favorite Duo/group of all time. Only behind A Tribe called Quest. But to demand no other producer be allowed on this record is a bit too much. Little Brother has succeeded without you for the last decade and will continue to do so. Now to play devils advocate......Perhaps the vision you had in your mind was, This is a reunion album so it should just be us three on the record. "Let's make it how it used to be". Fair enough, but Little Brother owes it success not just to you but to the other producers that have blessed us with their sounds. I hope you three can come to some type of resolution where we can get that CLASSIC 9th wonder, Big Pooh and Phonte sound once more. Keep the peace and dialogue open gentlemen.
Michael Gailes Brother! Perfectly said ✌🏿
Respect.
ATCQ is my number one too.💯
Amen
Michael Gailes but as a fan I personally wanted that classic sound. This album was good, but was missing 9th for me.
I guess Quincy Jones had a point when he mentioned once that he had to tell everyone to check their ego's at the door during the "We are the World" sessions...idk
Premium Pete the great, salute!
im glad phonte cleared up what happened with 9th, i was under the assumption that there could have still been some sort of unspoken beef with 9th but it is what it is. Album is a banger regardless!
@premiumpeteshow yo Pete, Combat would be so proud of you. Salute
Andre TheSneakerNerdGod 🙏🏼❤️
Wow this shit was eye opening.
Folks been saying shit about 9th lol
I understand both sides tbh, 9th Wonder not having any other producers is a bit too much but I do understand if his mindset was the fact that it’s a proper reunion album, and for the album to take it back to the good ol days.
On the other hand though, Phonte and Pooh have every right to feel how they feel about 9th tryna stop them from having other projects, especially considering producers like Illmind, Focus and Khrysis that have kept the name on since 9th left in 07. I do hope the three of them can properly sort out some agreements, cos I miss Te and Pooh over 9th, man!
Owen E i agree. This video is LB giving their side. I would love to hear 9th’s
If they waited 4 9th it wouldn't happen or theyd b rhyming over old beats. MINSTREL SHOW was al beats 9th sent. He would show up 4 mag interviews & here 9th said hed b there 4 festivals
@@dominiquejones3805 oh yeah I’ve seen the documentary. It makes even more sense now why they’re no longer cool with 9th
When Phonte ask 9th about having other producers on the album, 9th could've ask Phonte about The Soul Council producing the whole album (but still, 9th primarily producing the album)
Khrysis did some production on this project.
@@jaygatling1977 I KNOOWWWW, I mean like all of the Soul Council members (including 9th).
Perverted Alchemist Damn. Makes sense because there are a lot of guys over there.
He didnt want the SC on the project.9th wanted to produce the entire album.Phonte says it in an interview.
A Little Brother-Madlib collabo would be straight fire!!!!
👏👍👌☑️💯 Love to you and Little Brother.
#Legendary
It’s safe to assume the beats that they didn’t like made “Zion III”. Comparing that with “May the Lord Watch”, 9th definitely moved in a different direction while LB captured the nostalgic feel.
I wished we knew what beats they used from there
Completely. May The Lord was dope but i think 2 or 9th joints were needed
This is interesting, especially since 9th & Phonte sat down a publicly discussed the groups break up... Times change & people change 🤷🏾♂️
Wow, I think 9th started something that Phonte and Pooh never got over and when they finally got a chance to communicate those old woulds started to fester and it was like, we not doing that....peace.
i'm not even surprised, i have heard many stories about how 9th is
Check out the “Sleepers” album by Big Pooh. Thank me later.
HAITIAN PRIEST - Man that joint is slept on so hard it's criminal...
HAITIAN PRIEST that’s a classic just like the Foreign Exchange albums from Phonte
nomoreflys 👍🏾
It was good but Phonte is Dre and Pooh is Big Boi
jjbing3 WTF does that even mean? What has Andre done in his career without help from Big Boi?
It was a good thing 9th wasn't on or we would have hear DJ Premiers drum kit from 95 all over that LP. Also Eccentric produced on The Listening and it was widely known 9th got a lot of help from Khrysis on them beats.
Spec Goody They were using a lot of the same sounds and programs.
@The Nostalgic Music Google early interviews..
Also some of us sure in the circle. Im on a DVD with Khrysis, Illmind and etc
. Proudced for a lot of folks as well, I dont need to be extra my guy. It happened.
Tbh, sometimes, I think that Khrysis ghost produced some tracks for 9th (during the Hall of Justus late 03 - early 08)
DJ Keytronikz I can see that cause khrysis and 9th are similar in my opinion
The album is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
been my fuckin guys since day one man grew up to this shit down south
#Album was a #solid body of work, #production was on point.
Your Pooh n Phonte stop playing you'll are so real with man rap n the world needs the GEMS iam 60 years young n I need my meds My block is one of my Favorite of all time Sweet as u n Slow Down the playlist is so sick Shorty hit the brakes to late👍🎼🤲🤟👌😭🤡🎯🔊
Salute to 2 of the most important artists musicians to ever grace music.
Phinix Blahk
Really??
Lmao i gotta check them out. I be in a groove while listening i guess. I'm only a yr into knowing about them outside Foreign Exchange.
balle733 Pooh was solid on The Minstrel Show. Pooh has put out plenty of albums with good-great rapping, so nah. You’re doing too much.
.....so where can cop that STP shirt Phonte had on? Because that was DOPE.
I wanna hear 9th's side of the story. I really wish he was a part of this album. Dope album regardless & I'm glad at least Phonte & Pooh patched things up.
I’m in nc and the niggas that used to be in the Justus league have said this stuff about 9th
They sure have
9th seems to have that dogmatic narcissism that can be prevalent with the artsy types.
As much as I would love to hear an ALL PRODUCED 9TH WONDER LITTLE BROTHER album, I completely understand where Phonte and Big Pooh are coming from.
What annoys me a bit here is that they never stopped to consider if 9th was just trying to make up for his absence by only wanting himself on the album, if that's the case then 9th has every right to produce the album solo.
Phonte’ use the father leaving the family metaphor amazing though! He can make up for track of time!? But it’s not the family you started out with before. Things change 💯🤷🏾♂️! 9th should’ve thought about them when he was making albums with Murs, Rapsody, Remo and David Banner 😂
Man I just want to hear them over them 9th beats hopefully they all can put aside any combatting egos for that, I understand both sides really so there's no need to put either side down. Even with people saying 9th is replaceable is crazy talk, that's like Freddie Gibbs saying aw well next album I don't need Madlib I can get somebody to replicate his style or Slum Village saying J Dilla is replaceable. Phonte, Big Pooh, and 9th Wonder will always be Little Brother.
The way they face scrunch up when 9th is mentioned 🤣
Phonte impersonation of Preme was spot on
Little brother the best hands down
This makes me sad, but I understand. I hope we can get some future tracks over some 9th production. Even if it's just one.
Who knows at this point these men in their 40’s
I'll preface my comments by saying I'm a big fan of both 9th and Phonte. But I'm confused about Phonte's issue with 9th here. He says he needed 9th to be all the way in or all the way out when it comes to touring. But Phonte also wanted other producers involved in the album, meaning 9th wouldn't be as present throughout the album as Phonte and Pooh.
So if you tell 9th you don't want him 100% involved in the music-making, why is it an issue if he's not 100% involved in the touring? It sounds like Phonte wanted to dictate 9th's involvement. I want to hear 9th's take on things though before I judge either of them.
Im from no and the dudes that used to roll with LB have said this stuff he’s a control freak.. his artist maybe short of rapsody get quiet when he walks in the room like they’re scared to get on his bad side or something..
@@lupethekilla4200 gotcha, thanks for the info. I'm unfamiliar with what went down with Little Brother the first time 9th left the group, so I'm trying to piece things together.
I thought 9th and Phonte had worked through whatever made 9th exit the group because they've worked together recently. But I guess not. I hope they get things right one day.
@@lupethekilla4200Rapsody playing her part! Cause what if Rapaody left 9th Wonder she would’ve been like Chaundon, L.E.G.A.C.Y. , Edgar Allen Floe, Median, Joe Scudda even Keisha Shontelle and the rest of her squad of Kooley High. They all was Justus League! Amazing Talent too! Something tells me she was like the rest, she wanted that slice of fame in the sky. She continued making mixtapes, EP’s even done her first album back in 2012! Which I thought was great but it didn’t reach that status til her second album and third which she got on Roc Nation signed to one of her favorite icons “Jay-Z”! When you in the industry? You in deep but I think she’s in the spot where J Cole is in a way. You might not see him on Social Media or news about him but he just be dropping music and doing shows. Rapsody has done commercials ads and shit too! So she’s there and made it! The rest of people from Justus League I wished could still be doing music too but who knows if life got in the way.
9th is a DIVA
Wow the og's
I'm guessing what Phonte and Big Pooh were talking about here had happened back in 2007 with their GetBack album.
So I see 9th's point of view based on what Phonte said.
Tay thinks that since he and Pooh held LB down while 9th was gone, they have every right to recruit other producers to include in the album.
9th probably sees that as a slight. Like, hey, if I'm 1/3 of LB, and I'm playing role of producer, the songs have to be mine.
Obviously, Phonte and Pooh are hurt about the past. I doubt it fully got resolved, and it manifested in this way.
This was like a conditional invite on the basis that 9th has less of a say going forward.
That's unfair to 9th IMO.
As a fan, I wish they could have hashed it out. I don't see why if the beats weren't resonating with Tay/Pooh, that 9th couldn't have adjusted/iterated.
15 year old me that posted in The Lawn and stayed up to watch Foreign Exchange video on VH1 soul is BUMMED, man.
Very Real.
Damn yep(smh) but I can relate...some family will just never change.
It's not the same without 9th and that's just keeping it real. It's not the same
These guys must be sick of getting asked about 9th Wonder over and over again.
Sometimes I wish Tay would shut up and just let Pooh talk more.
I hear you, Phonte always been the mouthpiece tho...
Kwamu Hill tru facts
Pooh a grown man, he chose not to speak
Pete stop playing where is the rest of this interview
Matt Reeves right
The whole podcast is up just not visuals
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Damn I need 9th to come back around and stop bullshittin. I’ve been bumpin Lovin’ It on HEAVY REPEAT all month omg it’s so stupid phat
Khrysis >>> 9th
Nottz >>> 9th
9th ain't been the same with the beats, I feel Phonte 100%
If you hear Phonte away from LB you can tell he puts the songs together.
@@balle733 WASN'T ALL 9TH EITHER.
@@balle733 Yo Did You Hear They Were Sent Beat(S) But The Beat(S) 9th Wonder Sent Weren't Hittin'......
@@balle733 I Love Madvilliany Especially "Rainbows" And "Fancy Clown" But I Understand What Phonte Stated. The Whole Reason Little Brother Separated To Begin With Was Because Of 9th Wonder.... But That Didn't Stop Little Brother Cause Denuan Porter, Hi-Tek, Khrysis, Illmind, Nottz And Nicolay To Name A Few Kept The Sound Alive....
@@balle733 I Love Madvilliany Especially "Rainbows" & "Fancy Clown" But 9th Wonder Was The Reason Little Brother Separated To Begin With. Their 3rd Album Kept The Quality In Motion With Denuan Porter, Hi-Tek, Khrysis, Illmind, Nottz And Nicolay. So For Better Or Worst 9th Wonder Doesn't Make Or Break Little Brother.... Much Props Though Damn "Madvilliany" 2004 Was A Dope Year In Rap De La Soul "The Grind Date" Yasiin Bey(Mos Def) "The New Danger" Kanye West "The College Dropout" Jean Grae "This Week" Nas "Street's Disciple" Talib Kweli "The Beautiful Struggle" Lloyd Banks "Hunger For More" Ludacris "Redlight District" Royce Da 5'9" "Death Is Certain" The Clipse "We Got It For Cheap" But Vol.2 Is The Best In The Volumes Lil Wayne "Tha Carter" Twista "Kamikaze" Terror Squad "True Story" The Roots "The Tipping Point" Alchemist "1st Infantry" Yeah 2004 Great Year In Rap 8Ball & MJG "Living Legends" T.I. "Urban Legend" Young Buck "Straight Outta Cashville" Cee-Lo Green "Cee-Lo Green....Is The Soul Machine" Damn Man......
@@balle733 Jadakiss "The Kiss Of Death" And Cam'Ron "Purple Haze" Dope As Fuck As Well.....Again Much Props On Naming Madlib & MF DOOM "Madvilliany" Album.....
Wow so it was a deep situation between them and 9th
Somebody in the biz break it down for me: Is this all a matter of distinguishing between “beatmaking” and “producing”? I’m speaking in particular about how Pooh said that he and Phonte did all the A&R and coordinating with the individual producers on the tracks. Sounds like 9th wanted full control of the sound of the project (including Te and Pooh’s input, of course).
Woooooow
This shit hurts my heart to hear but shit makes total sense. Brothers grow apart and have different visions of the future. That said, this new album is an absolute fucking classic. Grown man rap and it's such beautiful music and desperately needed in these times. Thank you Pooh and Phonte... Thank you.
This is better interview than the bootleg Kev interview. There was more information in this one
I hate to see this. Tay calling 9th the narcissist is funny to me. Sound like projection. OG Little Brother is 9th, Tay and Pooh. How is 9th wrong for wanting to produce the whole project? RIP Dilla and Baatin, but that's like Slum Village saying "let's do a TRUE Slum Reunion album", but Dilla, you only get to produce 5 beats outta 15 total songs. And if Dilla said, naw, man....I wanna do all the beats. HE the one in the wrong? This shit hella petty....unfortunate.
Facts
9th never produced an entire LB project.. they always had other producers so your analogy doesnt apply
Branson 83 nigga. 9th made the whole listening album expect one song. Minstel show he made all expect “watch me” and the skits. Those are two albums are what LB fans call TRUE LB albums.
9th Wonder is not wrong from what I've heard here. It just looks like they have animosity. They dont want him to fully produce on a "homecoming", but when he suggests to share time on tour, its an issue? He wasn't gonna be on every song, they are. He's a producer. And if he doesn't want to tour, treat him like a producer, that's just more show money for the duo on stage. You dont delete the album.
@@MoeMunnie023 All but one track is not an entire LP nigga
Okay.... So here’s the problem I have with this position Phonte has. Silence speaks louder than words. From the way 9th hasn’t spoken on this leads me to believe that Phonte made this issue explode the way it has. Right or wrong, if my man didn’t come out and sh*t on me in public, why would I turn around and do it to him if there wasn’t some up angle I was leveraging for. Premier was right to call Phonte out on it. It’s some ego sh*t going on. Imagine Gangstarr with outside beats. Imagine Pete Rock & CL Smooth with outside beats. There is a distinct change to the chemistry. Also... If the group is Little Brother, why does Phonte and Big Pooh get to have their raps on every song.... but 9th can’t make the beats for every song? Phonte... something smells like bullsh*t over there. Furthermore, if there was a song here or there that was produced outside, why not A&R it completely? Why not let 9th bring his beats to the table and bring the outside producers beats to the table AND ALL 3 MEMBERS OF LITTLE BROTHER CHOOSE COLLECTIVELY? Phonte used the proper analogy. This is about papa space. Who is the leader and who is the follower. And in Phonte’s mind it’s him. Ego sh*t is all over everything Phonte is saying. All I know is that if I was 9th, I’d sever all business ties with that whole crew. This is some ego sh*t.
They all have egos especially 9th, you do know that “Threats” was made for them right? 9th gave it to Jay-Z for the Black Album! I believe Little Brother made lyrics to it and everything
After seeing 9ths lazy IG post about the album, I knew he was on some bullshit.
Def remembered that
I can't believe that 9th have a list of beats and you not feeling none of them. None of them ? I mean there best albums to me was listening , minstrel , chitlin . Those were heavy with 9th ... i don't know , as big as 9th was with Rapsody album he still had other producers. I guess we just need hear the otherside of the story. Phonte is on my top 10 , so i hope they figure it out.
! That hurts every hip-hop head.9th you was raised in the south I know you know betterOuch
seems like an LB ep should be created make everyone happy
Can we talk about how dope it is that they are so transparent about this? Because they don't have to speak on anything. I really appreciate Phonte and Big Pooh just as human beings in general. Still love 9th but he on some bullshit.
To Me Khrysis & Nicolay Could Easily Master 9thmatic's Sound Oops 9th Wonder's Sound..... He's Apart Of The Foundation But Shiiiiii He Can Be Replaced.....
Tbh I didn't even notice 9th wasn't on any of these tracks until I saw the production credits.
agreed. Nicolay is NIICE on the boards. same with Khrysis
To me Khrysis is like 9th........on steroids. So I'm okay with him not being on the album.
@@rosslaverdure Word Khrysis Produced "Watch Me" On LB "The Minstrel Show".......
9th want to be on ROCNation on the lowkey
All the way
I’m definitely disappointed that Premier said that because Gangstarr Foundation crew never made a Album together
Exactly, much as I fuck with Primo, I know he can't be talking
Dang bruh, we all thought it...but hearing this shit kinda hurts my soul. But dont trip all albums post 9th been dope regardless...
I'm gonna 1st start by saying this. 9th wonder is my champ (as far as producing goes) and Little Brother was and still IS my favorite band. That being said, its sounds like an EGO issue. 9th thinks "hey I've worked with Jay, beyonce, talib etc...i don't NEED these niggas." Little brother is thinking, we can get good beats from anybody. ans
Seems like the producer is always the one to mess things up. CL Smooth had a similar issue with Pete Rock, with his no committal thus no third album.
Need havoc up there
To be 100% honest I can understand why they needed 9th to come harder with the beats
Both Phonte and Pooh have grown as artists and phonte has become a great producer in his own right!
9th is dope but he’s no Dilla or RZA/Swizz producers who have have maintained groups with their sound and grown as artists at the same time.
If you don’t want other producers on the album, you better be coming with your A+ plus game
That’s cause he gave Rapsody the best ones
was there beef/issues with 9th, Skyzoo + Drake (before YMCMB) back in the early Jamla days?
I was curious about that too. I felt Skyzoo was the flagship artist at Jamla. Then he just left and never spoke on why him and 9th spilt.
Yeah. I've had questions for years. Thee Tom Hardy, Big Remo, ADD-2.....maybe I'm nosey but I'd love to know what all happened. I've been a fan of Jamla from jump.
@@logent80 yup. they were all following each other on social media back in the day. Skyzoo released "Music For My Friends" album and nobody from Jamla/Soul Council has production credits
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Yikes! I didn't look at the credits.
Skyzoo dissed him subliminally on "Sweet Pursuit"
But I stopped thinking that rappers and producers was my friends
'cause its a wonderful world til they cutting out the odds
And it turns out loyalty just wasn't in their cards
A Wonderful World was the name of 9th's first label and what Sky was signed to
Say what yall want they needed 9th on this album regardless if he wanted full control of production or not. They ain't been the same without 9th listen to Rapsody beats they couldve at least let him pick them. If they was gonna choose other producers it shouldve been Khrysis Apollo brown and Madlib nobody else.
Famous saying , if you want something done right do it yourself . But I see from both sides 9th is a busy man . With 9th its a bigger check, but I see where they coming from. I would have said nigga just let me buy a few beats and show up at the video shoot and we'll take it from there .I'm thinking like a manger now where's my fee ?
9th wants be a leader... But can't boss little brother around.
I dont care how they play nice with each other, there's still tension there between 9th and the group. Its so obvious. They haven't dropped an album since 09' then finally return and your in house producer isnt apart of it? But he had time to fly smif n wessun down to carolina and do a whole album with them. 9th on his bullshit.
9th feels like he's bigger than little brother and that's corny
Most producers dip and seek different projects.Trust me musicians brains work different. Dilla left Slum Village
Seems like it’s beef.....LOL. But I get it. I have friends that I would rather stay friends wit than to work with or live with. That’s life that’s how you stay friends and the reality is that I would rather be you friend forever than to lose that thing on some forceable bullshit......respect
So they fell out the first time for the same reason?
Damn 9th...
Man, why does Phonte always sound so bitter when he talks about 9th ..........
Because he is
I'm depressed
9th wonder should be ashamed of himself but oh well. I still respect little brother
9th beats are more advanced now little brother trying to keep that same energy 🤔 creative differences
Rafael Larkins LB’s album’s beats we’re advanced and different than boom bap beats. 🤷🏾♂️
I want an only 9th produce Little Brother’s album
Love LB but this sounds like "No News is Good News" production wise. Wish it sounded like a LB album
I'm still disappointed. I wanted all three. But I understand to bygones be bygones & move on.
Let’s be honest,the majority of the album musically, sounds like a phonte album feat. Big Pooh.. phonte put a foreign exchange spin on it with the singing on hooks which is a lil outdated. The album was cool but I feel 9th woulda made it a classic