The whole point of using silicon pipes is so they don't expand. Saying they expand and therefore let more air through is complete bollocks. There is no reason it would expand even if it could, it's on the intake. It's before the turbo.There is no pressure.
For those also doing this mod, you can use a small amount of engine oil and rub it on the inside of the silicone hoses. That will make it ALOT easier when you fit it and you can move it ALot easier into place before clamping everything. Your welcome 😜
Makes a huge difference upgrading the turbo to crossover pipe. I did mine on my EO st today, I have the dreamscience CAI located behind the front wheel, sounds really loud, especially with forge recirc valve and forge actuator 👍🤙🤙🤙
Where do you got it from ? I live in France and there’s not as much choice for performance parts for my ST 225 as in UK .. I want to delete this baffle too but can’t find the delete pipe
Sounds immense now mate, definitely made my mind up to do it too mine. Love the vids dude, helping me get through this lockdown shit. Cheers mate Shaun
Silicone hoses don't expand on the cold side that's the sucking side so anything from airbox to turbo is vacuum hence why most of it is hard pipe, from turbo to intercooler is the pressured side.
great video definitely look into getting one myself. but can i recommend some fabric wiring tape for your ecu wires to tidy it up and protect them. easiest way is disconnect battery and unplug the ecu and then wrap the loom it tidys it up alot.
I’ll give you a good tip, from silicone pipe you do get a better flutter but with spending the same amount you spent for the silicone pipe you can get better sounds and performance from a titanium pipe with a nice polished look
Wow every days a school day! I didn’t not realise that about that turbo hose was going to change mine anyway but just thought it was just a nasty looking stock hose 😂, great vid mate need these during isolation lol!
Oh cool info. mate. I was umming and aaring about getting one of those as I've put all new pipes on up to that point on the induction side. I just thought that last one was a cosmetic change until now, I did not know of any baffles in there robbing us of lovely sounds! I still have not taken my bonnet duvet off yet, yes I know I gotta get it ripped out. Cheers guys, stay well and hope Luke feels better after mumps, I hear it's not a good thing to get when you are not a kid, but maybe that's an old wives tale, I dunno. Shame we don't have an OBD2 port so we can just plug a reader in and see what's up. Diagnosis would be easy. Oi mate you got a covid19 code up, bank 1 lol.
Yes and in 15yrs when these become collectable and very sought after , people will be ripping all that shit off and paying fortunes for the original thrown away parts .
These will not be collectible in 15 years. It’s all about the RS, as the RS badge has pedigree. Just look at the prices of the mk2 RS vs the ST today, they are miles apart.
I don't think they make the same boost level in idle so you won't get the full effect. The engine will need to be under load i.e. driving, to get the full effect.
It's hard to think of the reason Ford put the baffle in there originally. Was it for strength? Surely not sound depression as they went to all that lengths to introduce engine noise into the cabin with the sympothsiser plastic gubbins.
i hope if the belt harness is being used that you have adjusted it, seeing people actually buckle up with the buckle across the stomach like that is bad, put it round the waist
Did you find that your turbo to crossover pipe bends a little when you connect the crossover back to it? Did mine yesterday and I'm not sure if it's at the wrong angle
There aren't any baffles in the RS I've spoke to someone who's already done it.. im still fitting a silicone one though as he said there was a difference in noise and they have a larger bore
I was going to get silicone crossover ducts from mountune...any idea if they have the baffles in? Obviously I want some nice turbo flutter too. Who doesn't?
Joshua Carter if your running 300+ the silicone pipe gets hot and sucks itself in when you drive hard and cause problems I went back to standard pipe and been fine ever since
remove the Standard pipe and jump on it or put in a vice just break the plastic baffle no need to buy a silicone pipe. if going bigger turbo then change. The whole point of using silicon pipes is so they don't expand. its sucking there is no pressure anyway.
I've seen people recently take the 'silencer' out of the standard hose, don't do this people, the standard hose will collapse on itself under boost 😅 just buy a proper silicone pipe 🙏
It a bit sad when you have to take a carrier bag with you in case your stopped by the cops . Lol but the sooner we all start staying in the sooner we can all get back in are ST ‘s I bought mine just before the lock down so I haven’t even drove it yet 👎🤬👎
Myself and luke just stay together and don’t see anyone else really. As we live together it’s easy to do car mods and just time using the car with when we’re on way somewhere
Not saying your doing anything thing wrong . Appreciate all your videos. Just saying it’s so weird you Need to take a bag out to justify your movements. Respect bud stay safe and keep posting videos during lockdown. One more question with all your exhaust mods how do you go on with MOT s ? 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
@@GCMYT get rid of the recirculation valve and fit a blanking plate. It will flutter like mad, and you also remove the risk of boost leaks from the recirc.
Peaople need to learn the difference between Blow off, turbo flutter and wastegates... Blow off = what this car is doing. Dumping over pressured air to atmosphere. Turboflutter = over pressurized air bouncing back into the turbine blades, and cutting the air (tsu tsu tsu-sound) THIS IS BAD!! can potentially break your turbo. Wastegates = has nothing to do with any sound the "turbo" makes. Is only there to dump pressure from the turbomanifold, and prevents the turbo from spinning faster than it is designed or mapped to do.
Yep I think he got a bit mixed up there. A good vacuum pipe KEEPS it's shape and does not cave under (negative) pressure. We don't want elliptical cross sections in our pipes under load! OH NO!! I cannot think of any situation where a pipe with a bit of expansion is a good thing, unless if it was to act as a damper to stop boost side pipes blowing off at sudden very high boost levels. If anyone can enlighten me I'd be grateful. Thanks.
@@royevans4581 lukes comment about silicone pipes i dont think is true, If a silicone pipe was to expand it would actually make the car laggier decreasing performance
@@Richieesgarage That's how I would see it also, but you know, we are all learning as we go and that's the fun of it eh. Big question is: At the end of the modding and tinkering, does it go faster and sound better! Keep safe mate, and keep rubber side down. ))
Get in touch with Lewis Gilbert from RST FABRICATIONS - he makes the coolest custom st bits :)
Hope you guys are surviving love the mk2 st's!
he scammed me and many others
The whole point of using silicon pipes is so they don't expand. Saying they expand and therefore let more air through is complete bollocks. There is no reason it would expand even if it could, it's on the intake. It's before the turbo.There is no pressure.
Does my head in when people talk a load of shit just for the tubes lol. Just install the part and stfu haha.
He was very confidently chatting shit, makes me laugh.
And here we have another st owner that talks utter nonsense like the nonces they are
that kids got no idea what hes talking about hahahahahah
I was just about to comment saying the same thing
No silicone hoses DON’T expand, that is the whole point of them!!
I got a good laugh when he said that
Dropping that air silencer makes a massive difference, you'll really hear those flutters after the valve mods.
For those also doing this mod, you can use a small amount of engine oil and rub it on the inside of the silicone hoses. That will make it ALOT easier when you fit it and you can move it ALot easier into place before clamping everything. Your welcome 😜
No, please don't lol. Engine oil causes silicone hoses to swell and causes all sorts of problems. If you need to use a lube, use silicone spray.
Wow it sounds like a MK3 cortina that’s low on oil now 👍🏻 amazing
Did not know this even existed!!
I can tell it's so much louder...
Every time I see this car pop up, it makes me so happy 🙈 such a sexy ST225!
Makes a huge difference upgrading the turbo to crossover pipe. I did mine on my EO st today, I have the dreamscience CAI located behind the front wheel, sounds really loud, especially with forge recirc valve and forge actuator 👍🤙🤙🤙
ive now ordered one of these after checking my focus and realising i still have the standard pipe! thanks george
Anytime pal
Where do you got it from ? I live in France and there’s not as much choice for performance parts for my ST 225 as in UK ..
I want to delete this baffle too but can’t find the delete pipe
i bought this mod months ago, but this video convinced me to finally put in on and I am not disappointed thanks George
Glad you liked it pal
Maf sensor is on the wrong way round the mesh part goes facing the air filter.
How funny is that I've ordered exactly the same pipe crossover and filter also from Lewis lol
Love howh he held the wiper when it was nearly tight like he was lining it up when it's on a spline😂
Great choice of filter lad ;)
RamairFilters smooth
Very interesting! It looked as though the pipe has the Volvo logo so probably I have the same one on my C30 T5, got to have a look now!
Same engine and suspension
@@mcgherkinstudios At the moment it's just a garden ornament haha! (Hi)
Sounds immense now mate, definitely made my mind up to do it too mine. Love the vids dude, helping me get through this lockdown shit. Cheers mate
Shaun
Aw thanks man. Your very kind. I’m glad you enjoy watching them :) thanks buddy and keep safe
I have the Airtec cais and full Milltec, symposer delete and it all sounds just great!
Fix a smaller registration plate and place it in the bottom in front of the intercooler instead, much cleaner look.
Nice ST,
Keep up the good works👍
Why would you put anything in front of the intercooler
Silicone hoses don't expand on the cold side that's the sucking side so anything from airbox to turbo is vacuum hence why most of it is hard pipe, from turbo to intercooler is the pressured side.
great video definitely look into getting one myself. but can i recommend some fabric wiring tape for your ecu wires to tidy it up and protect them. easiest way is disconnect battery and unplug the ecu and then wrap the loom it tidys it up alot.
I’ll give you a good tip, from silicone pipe you do get a better flutter but with spending the same amount you spent for the silicone pipe you can get better sounds and performance from a titanium pipe with a nice polished look
Isn’t the standard pipe decent at stopping it cave in and cause running issues?
Highly recommend getting a jubalie screw driver alot easier 👌
Sounds great, although a before and after video would have been best to hear the improvement
Wow every days a school day! I didn’t not realise that about that turbo hose was going to change mine anyway but just thought it was just a nasty looking stock hose 😂, great vid mate need these during isolation lol!
That sound cool George 😎.
Its a never ending money pit
Oh cool info. mate. I was umming and aaring about getting one of those as I've put all new pipes on up to that point on the induction side. I just thought that last one was a cosmetic change until now, I did not know of any baffles in there robbing us of lovely sounds! I still have not taken my bonnet duvet off yet, yes I know I gotta get it ripped out. Cheers guys, stay well and hope Luke feels better after mumps, I hear it's not a good thing to get when you are not a kid, but maybe that's an old wives tale, I dunno. Shame we don't have an OBD2 port so we can just plug a reader in and see what's up. Diagnosis would be easy. Oi mate you got a covid19 code up, bank 1 lol.
Sounds sweet with airpods in pal good vid
Yes yes gerbil 👌😂
Haha yes mart how r u son lol
Good man surprised to see you here 👍💯
Yes and in 15yrs when these become collectable and very sought after , people will be ripping all that shit off and paying fortunes for the original thrown away parts .
I watched this video to see how to refit the original hose on the ST I just bought. All done, it's much better now!
Yap... My focus st mk2 is stil factori stock..
These will not be collectible in 15 years. It’s all about the RS, as the RS badge has pedigree.
Just look at the prices of the mk2 RS vs the ST today, they are miles apart.
Are your gold heat panels under bonnet pre cut or did u do yourself?
Just good heat tape from eBay mate. Actually made a video doing it if you take a loook
Oh I miss my old black ST3
Cool indicator lights, are those customised??
sick vid boyssssss 😎 dream team
I don't think they make the same boost level in idle so you won't get the full effect. The engine will need to be under load i.e. driving, to get the full effect.
It's hard to think of the reason Ford put the baffle in there originally. Was it for strength? Surely not sound depression as they went to all that lengths to introduce engine noise into the cabin with the sympothsiser plastic gubbins.
@@mcgherkinstudios Did Ford think we would like induction noise but not turbo noise?
Probably just to stop it collapsing when the standard air filter needs changing and the engine is hot.
Flutter will increase wear on your turbo
@@hgg219 the mondeo 2.5t doesn't have bov or dump values so it flutters as standard I removed that pipe to make it loud 😉
@@bobertrarton6266Hey, can I contact you somewhere? Thanks!
i hope if the belt harness is being used that you have adjusted it, seeing people actually buckle up with the buckle across the stomach like that is bad, put it round the waist
if that front brace bends so much when you just lean on it i can be doing nothing for the cars handling
Its a cosmetic one lol and hes took the one thats on the car off lol
Did you find that your turbo to crossover pipe bends a little when you connect the crossover back to it? Did mine yesterday and I'm not sure if it's at the wrong angle
yesss it did
I wonder if it would change much for me with standard air filter
Yea it will but a cone filter is always a good idea
I wonder if it’s the same on the RS? Might have to do some investigating this weekend 👀
Just had a look inside mine on my RS and cant see any baffles, unless they are further down, might change it anyway
Andy Bell change it and let me know! Saves my lazy arse doing it if it’s pointless 😂
There aren't any baffles in the RS I've spoke to someone who's already done it.. im still fitting a silicone one though as he said there was a difference in noise and they have a larger bore
I was going to get silicone crossover ducts from mountune...any idea if they have the baffles in? Obviously I want some nice turbo flutter too. Who doesn't?
Where the carbon mirror covers from?
MKCUSTOMZ on fb
Yaaaas👍👍sounds Gr8.
I pick my st 225 up tomorrow it has a front splitter is that going to be an issue around speed humps
I just bought one because of this video 😂👈
Just so you know bigger pipe doesn’t always mean more flow and silicone pipes will only swell under pressure, this is pre turbo so vacuum
would this baffle delete increase sound on the stock airbag system?
What do you mean airbag system?
I thought the silicone hoses are designed not to expand, to stop them popping off under boost like stock hoses do🤔
Ignore lukes comment haha
@@GCMYT I might be wrong🤷🏽♂️just what I thought
Does that front brace bar fit the c30?
I’d hold onto to that pipe if I were you
Why?
Joshua Carter if your running 300+ the silicone pipe gets hot and sucks itself in when you drive hard and cause problems I went back to standard pipe and been fine ever since
How hard was it to attach the cross over down onto the turbo?
Where did you get the headlights
Custom built buddy
Does this silicone pipe make any difference to the performance? If its just induction noise id rather have the car quiet
Is this available for American made at’s?
Another great video 👌
I wonder if they do this for the 7th gen Fiesta ST
Silicone hoses expand, allowing more airflow??? I'm speechless.
He said it with such confidence too, wouldn’t let either of these two anywhere near mine, some of the stuff they say is staggering.
lube that pipe up makes it easier...and you could heat it up with a hair dryer too
The oem pipe sound mutch better, a sharper pitch
Can i put ST front bumper on non ST?
Nice day for modding Gents :)
do you needed aftermarket bov?
remove the Standard pipe and jump on it or put in a vice just break the plastic baffle no need to buy a silicone pipe. if going bigger turbo then change. The whole point of using silicon pipes is so they don't expand. its sucking there is no pressure anyway.
what strut brace is that?
I am going to order one today. Thanks for info.. just a quick question but where was you leaking coolant after having the hoses done.
Nice but....why didn't you spray oil on the filter?
Your seatbelt isnt adjustet right
love this i wanna do this soon
Gcm what key upgrade was that
Great content George, where did you order the pro ram from (correct one)?
From rst himself my man. Link below :)
Quedó súper ✌🏻
Oh look a Volvo motor
What you doing with your current ECU holder George?
Up for sale once I work out a price
@@GCMYT might be interested if the price is right 😁
If i take this pipe off and replace it will it flutter or do I still need a dumpvalve
I don’t use a dump valve. I have a forge recirc valve buddy. 😁
Block the factory bypass valve for flutter. Theres a vacuum line under the top of the timing cover, block it.
The oem pipe sounds mutch better, oem gives a higher pitch note
If you are replacing your intake kit. Do you want to sell it? Keep the good work!🔥🔥
Will be up for sale. Induction cone, pipes in red and the ecu cover. Suggested price is around £100
GCMTHEPT where can I get in touch with you? I want to buy it from you.
I send you a message on instagram
I've seen people recently take the 'silencer' out of the standard hose, don't do this people, the standard hose will collapse on itself under boost 😅 just buy a proper silicone pipe 🙏
I'm sorry, what is that car? I've never seen that one, is that a British ST from before 2013?
Yes mk2 focus st
I don't suppose you wanna sell your old ram Air induction kit whole do you ?
I will he yes. The ecu holder and the cone itself plus red hoses
How much you looking for mate
Is it easy too fit
Shit... thx for video, but seats, wheel, safe belts... How much to 60mph? 6sec?...
It a bit sad when you have to take a carrier bag with you in case your stopped by the cops . Lol but the sooner we all start staying in the sooner we can all get back in are ST ‘s I bought mine just before the lock down so I haven’t even drove it yet 👎🤬👎
Myself and luke just stay together and don’t see anyone else really. As we live together it’s easy to do car mods and just time using the car with when we’re on way somewhere
Not saying your doing anything thing wrong . Appreciate all your videos. Just saying it’s so weird you Need to take a bag out to justify your movements. Respect bud stay safe and keep posting videos during lockdown. One more question with all your exhaust mods how do you go on with MOT s ? 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Good video apart from
That cheese puff in it
Didn't hear no flutter 🤔😂
I need to switch the correct spring over in the recirc. :) needed tools on route
@@GCMYT get rid of the recirculation valve and fit a blanking plate. It will flutter like mad, and you also remove the risk of boost leaks from the recirc.
Sounds like a diesel🤣
So amazing isn't it the difference a Volvo engine makes to boring Ford
Less goobly wears turkey gobble fucking chol Choo type of noise 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Peaople need to learn the difference between Blow off, turbo flutter and wastegates...
Blow off = what this car is doing. Dumping over pressured air to atmosphere.
Turboflutter = over pressurized air bouncing back into the turbine blades, and cutting the air (tsu tsu tsu-sound) THIS IS BAD!! can potentially break your turbo.
Wastegates = has nothing to do with any sound the "turbo" makes. Is only there to dump pressure from the turbomanifold, and prevents the turbo from spinning faster than it is designed or mapped to do.
Car is crying out for a new plenum ???
I wish mate. I can’t afford one atm
How much was the pipe fella. It sounds better
£40 mate :)
Plz sort out those harnesses, the placement on your body is really dangerous
Wonder if he ever figured out that he’s never getting turbo flutter while releasing all the pressure 🤷🏻♂️
No flutter at all, all BOV.
my induction is louder with standard pipe then that after you changed yours😭😭😭
OK so the ram air filter is now sucking in hot engine heat....hmmmm
It's a turbocharged car, you don't want cold air as it needs to heat up anyways, so what's the point?
@@t58beare Are you serious?
to be fair its not going to expand when its being sucked down ;)
even if it did it wouldnt be enough to make any real difference
Yep I think he got a bit mixed up there. A good vacuum pipe KEEPS it's shape and does not cave under (negative) pressure. We don't want elliptical cross sections in our pipes under load! OH NO!! I cannot think of any situation where a pipe with a bit of expansion is a good thing, unless if it was to act as a damper to stop boost side pipes blowing off at sudden very high boost levels. If anyone can enlighten me I'd be grateful. Thanks.
@@royevans4581 lukes comment about silicone pipes i dont think is true, If a silicone pipe was to expand it would actually make the car laggier decreasing performance
@@Richieesgarage That's how I would see it also, but you know, we are all learning as we go and that's the fun of it eh. Big question is: At the end of the modding and tinkering, does it go faster and sound better! Keep safe mate, and keep rubber side down. ))
why he wearing yoga pants
I can tell you got too much time, im fixing all my cars up as well eveey dann thing which annoyed me is getting fixed now
Jarrus Killa just watched your straight pipe UP video 😂😂 sick whip
Get a dump valve