2nd Day Out & Coding! 😳
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- ** Not an overly great feeling with the new Fendt 1167 when you are less than 24hrs into seeding and you get your first def code 🤦🏻♂️... Come on!
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Keep letting them hear it Mike. More people understand your frustrations than people believe.
$750,000.00 tractor gets turned into a boat anchor because of a code.
Yep, that’s the world we live in.
So frustrating
Glad to hear you took Mother's Day off and spent some "Quality Time" with Ashtyn & Chapel .
Seeding Time will get done but family does come first.
I have DEF problems on my fendt sometimes and it's usually the DEF filter coming loose and sucking air.
Mike I’m so happy for you my brother. He is sooooooo stinking precious 😍!!! So happy for you both. It’s unreal how much a loving woman and being a new daddy can change your life. My first child is 20 months old and best thing ever happened in my life, along with him mommy. I’m 47 and feeling it after chasing a lil girl all over the farm every day, but man I’m the happiest I’ve ever been
Seeding is interesting and very impressive. They operate over large areas and it is impressive how quickly they are able to implement. Probably hard work, but they persevere.
What a load of pish! I have a 400l barrel of def that I bought in 2016 for 2 vans and 1 tractor.....all still running fine
You are an amazing dad and give them hell on the DEF codes. They need to get an override in all makes of tractors
DEF delete is the only true solution to DEF problems
We hear you Mike. 😟Frustration gives you the very best explanation of the problems you have. I realy hope the tractor won't let you down, considering the hours you make a day you don't need the stress aswell😉 keep up the humor and your smile😀like your are.👍
Beautiful family shot. Happy planting
3/4 of a million dollar tractor didn’t make it 24 hrs. It’s no wonder why old tractors are appreciating in value.
And as an RN I’d like to add that there are issues in hospitals like you mentioned in your analogy. EKG machines require a password and patient info so pt can be billed. So if you’re having a heart attack time=cardiac muscle. If we don’t have the password for this machine or pt info we get no EKG. It’s sad.
Wow.. Now that's crazy!
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Good to see Ashtyn and Chappel make an appearance
Thank you very much for the video. As always, a very interesting story.
Dad and Chapel rocking the same haircut! Cute little guy, you got there, Mike. Well done and good luck with the new-tractor-which-shall-not-be-named….
Not only a awesome guy but awesome farmer who says it how it is but a awesome daddy , have a safe season sir
That high pitched whine would drive me crazy!
Oh dang def issues already!! Unreal! It would really tick me off as well! I so agree with your idea that a Tech should be over ride the system while you wait on parts. Not a good start for the 1167 Fendt!! I too hear people having massive amount of problem with def on AGCO iron. Deere must be doing things right if you never have def issues on them! I wish you all the best Mike, have a good and safe seeding season!
Nice to see you with your family nice times never enough time for our family
What a beautiful little Bean Chapel is!!! Cutest Shortest Farmer Ive ever seen.
Great video Mike good luck seeding your 2022 crops
first of all great video i have to say we run 9 fendt tractors at home and i cant remember that we ever had DEF problems but i hope your get no more problems and keep up the great videos Greatings from germany
... I think, that yellow/green thing on the cab disturbs the inner balance of the 1167 und it throws up (codes) 😋
Glad to see you all are doing well 😊
Greetings from austria 🙂
That yellow/green thing is the best thing that ever happened to that tractor
Mike there is a type of shipping called NFO Next Flight Out. I would make them call a shipping broker and have the part sent that way if you are ever stuck fully shut down.
The way it works is the broker picks it up, takes it to the closest airport puts it on the NFO, and it’s sent to the closest airport to you. Then the broker picks it up and delivers it to the dealer. It’s expensive but it’s their responsibility!
Provided that someone further down the line has the part.
The problem today isn't just that the store / dealer doesn't have them, but the factory is missing them.
And the factory is missing them because the factory they order them from is missing them.
And the factory below that is having issues getting the raw materials to make the needed component and they are waiting for their supply.
As such the wait times just keep extending out towards infinity.
@@CMDRSweeper oh I agree, but if it’s like this time, mike said the part was in Chicago, and it was going to take many days to get to him. When he has a 1/4 million dollar brand new tractor, and a years profit on the line, I feel it’s fair to demand $500 be spent on shipping to get him up and running.
@@Badgermatt-nc5nr His brother has a plane. He has flown to go get parts before.
@@mikeznel6048 yeah. Not quite flying to Chicago type of plane unfortunately.
What a cutie!!! That is an awesome age. My youngest grandson is a little over a month older than Chapel.
He is absolutely precious Mike and Ashton ladies are gonna go crazy for him
On this topic I don't mind getting a bit backed up.
It's so clear that Mike really wants to like the AGCO equipment, I really hope they're listening and see the sense he's talking 🙏
Yup loves it so much that all black combines are gone. All ago stuff is under built IMO
Mike we had the challenger 865E twin track, its practically the same tractor u got ,but we put in a def pump at the start of each season ,we ended up deleting it after 3 years
Still living that pre-DEF life on our farm. It's sad what they've done to the modern diesel engine.
You tell us the videos are going to stop etc.. and then we get an almost immediate Family Visit!!! Awesome!!!!
Lot to said for Welkers Big Buds ! old but simple !
Did you remember to check the tire pressure on the walk around of the Two Track 🤣😂
Hard to believe it’s so dry in the sw. east central is so wet no one turned a wheel yet. Now rain steadily overnight. 1.5 inches since Saturday. ⛈😫
I’ve got in both trucks and airplanes before and went to Columbus Indiana from Nc to get a customer parts for CLAAS stuff. No reason they can’t do that for you. I’ve also left a Mercedes’ mini diag plugged in with the customer so they can clear the code while parts are rounded up
Great awesome video mike, issues always happens, you won’t have the perfect tractor
So Mike it appears that you have enough room behind the cart to hitch the service truck and Fendt mechanic to so that you can have him behind you all of the time.
Agreed Mike. Tech needs to be able to override DEF system. To keep everyone happy the code should work for 50 or 100 engine hours while new parts are coming.
The issue is that the dpf relies on the Def system working properly, so simply overriding a code could lead to $10s of thousands of dollars of damage to the dpf system and engine.
So you can't override it unless you also delete the dpf.
And because of the democrats voted into office the epa gained the power to force the def system to be mandated and they have added the inducement system that cuts power to force you to fix it. Voting has consequences.
Great 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 job
Awesome video thanks for sharing ❤️ and good luck with planting
That tractor does sound nice though. Have to agree that DEF issues are a pain and an override is a smart way to go.
Hey Mike we have a 2013 case IH 235 magnum and Case has a over ride system on the tractors software because if it’s below a certain temperature the tractor won’t use def. And if it gives us issues we just delete them because it’s way cheaper then paying for def.
The older tractors from AGCO seemed like they were better. Ran several MT600D series challengers for almost 10000 hrs and it never really let you down, surely underpowered for what we were doing with it, but it did work.
I will disagree 100%, fendt stuff is way better, shit happens its a new machine and gotta get the bugs worked out 🤷♂️
@@calebrozeboom No it’s nothing to do with getting bugs worked out of it. It’s the emissions junk.
The DEF rant is 💯
Well Mike like you said case is easy to delete thats what the main reason why we run them. Also we drive 3.5 hrs to a case dealership pass many deere dealership and few Massey
We always used to have def quality sensors issues the first day with new tractors probably the same sensor
I feel you're pain. I run red and green, and if i didn't have to put def in the Deere i wouldn't even know it had it. The red ones don't go a week without a damn def code.
Thanks for the video great see how you do it in the U.S.A 👍👍
@@memesandmusic oh sorry
Thanks Mike!
Our experience is the exact opposite. Our Agco equipment has been really good with DEF. Our JD on the other hand, that needed DEF work quite often.
Electric gremlins and poor quality sensors is all it is, ofc the corrosive nature of DEF doesn't help.
You would be the only one. Never had a problem with Deere.
@@Ty-xe9yp We're all in the same boat. Problem is, if you gonna implement such a function people will just abuse it. Hence why I'm pretty certain Europe or maybe Germany doesn't allow for such a function to exist.
Bad enough people will just delete anyway, because in their small mind they can't understand that we need to change some things or droughts like Mike has them now will become the regular rather than a once in five years thing.
Send them an invoice for loss of income a couple of times, you will be amazed about how fast these sensors suddenly start appearing.
It's a known issue those sensors go bad on the regular so they have to have stock even if those sensors are sparse, stock is a problem for dealerships or manufacturers to solve not for customers.
We've had a trucking company almost file a lawsuit against a European truck manufacturer because basically a quarter of their fleet was sitting in regularly for months with a bad sensor. You could easily order the sensor from a different manufacturer, just that they were like 50 cents more a piece, so instead they just told people they couldn't get one until they got an invoice for 25 trucks sitting around for three months. 🤷♂️
@@chadjustice8560 you sound like the famous Deere dealer reply "never seen that problem before"
My Massey kept throwing that code too. Pulled it off and the codes stopped 🤣
Lol Mike, the only issue with the override is that once it's overridden by the dealer you and I both know they'll never hear from the farmer again.
Why would that be a bad thing?
@@jackriley4104 because there service department won't get work
@@carlfalt174 Thats true. But when farmer gets too frustrated with problems they might just go for other brand and they lose customer.
@@nakki123 well this isn't the spring of 1962 where there would have been farm machinery dealers in every railroad siding town in Saskatchewan. They build this equipment so no one can service it except there mechanics
If you can get a 3 day grace period on a GPS accuracy unlock, you can put a grace period on engine hours that the grower or even dealer should be able to activate so you can get the defective emissions parts replaced.
The kid is looking great 😃
Your son is absolutely precious!!!
Thanks! 🙂
Whats not to say it sat in the tractor since it was built, I totally agree with the override code. Def is a joke 68 percent water 32 percent urea
Hey i have a question do you share a map with all ur tractors for your section control or do u have boundary set up so ur section control works thanx
Have run 6 different Deere and 2 Ford pickup’s never had a Def issue. Nice to see your family bringing breakfast. Hope seeding goes well and tractor keeps running
Well, I see loads of JD DEF issue all around TH-cam. Tractors and combines simply become too complicated.
@@rypkepaulusma I agree just been lucky so far
Sorry for the Def trouble but I don't like fent and the whine in the cabin from hydraulic pump noise. Not a well design tractor
Fendt*
Great video and machines.
I've come to learn that DEF is more volatile as a fluid, than I could've imagen. I.e. old jugs for DEF shouldn't be refilled from a pump, because this sort of thing might cause it to crystalize. You should never fill up your DEF while the machinery is running, cause that might give a snoot of air to your quality of assurance sensor (in the tank) and it will prompt to you, that your DEF is bad.
There's a few of these ticks that makes it uneasy to handle and take care of, unlike diesel and gasoline, topping up your engine with oil and so on.
My experience with machinery and DEF isn't so bad. Luckily. Though it's quirks are still unacceptable and plain stupid. Even if the system came to be, for a good purpose.
imagine being the technition just hearing mike having a rant on his own out in a paddock😂😂😂😂
Nice to see the family again. Chapel is growing like a weed.
Hope you get your problem with Codes fixed, Enjoy your videos.
I agree all manufacturers should be allowed to bypass DEF issues. There are procedures that could be put in place to do this. In fact it could be done remotely.
I’m not defending Fent but it is the supplier of the sensor who is at fault. They are use plastics where they should be using resins to make the sensor case and that is allowing movement causing the sensor to fail. In short Fent went cheap on the sensor.
You can do it remotely on the John Deere system, you can use a "emissions de-rate temporary override" and it will give you 12hrs without any loss in power. You can do this 4 times to give you time to order replacement parts
Those 13700's can side-hill really well with a full load, ask me how I know lol. I would be far more worried about the drill trying to roll while folded up.
Let's hope the ship Fed Ex or UPS. Mike I had a double Lung transplant so I get the scenario you were talking about. Yours is a DEF code issue mine was a death code thing. Chapel is quite the cutie.
When the 1167 is down that means it is time to go north and use that equipment. :D
Good stuff stay safe
We also get alot of Def codes on our magnum
Your def issues sound exactly the same as mine in the UK. And I’m planting. I’m basically Mike but I’m the uk 😂😂😂😂
in 8 years and lots of different tractors knock on wood we never had a DEF problem on any of our Deere tractors combines or sprayers
You are completely right Mike , you tell everybody about where food comes from and about Your Def problems 👍🏻👍🏻
Love Chapel.
Your son is so cute ! I hope he doesn’t have def issues 😂😂😂 Hope agco is working his *ss to solve those !
We've been learning that some of AGCOs problems with Def is because they keep trying to run the tractors at lower RPMs to save fuel, and as a result the exhaust doesn't get hot enough for the emissions stuff to work. That's also why they use more DEF, because the exhaust isn't hot enough to burn cleaner, so it has to dose more DEF.
kinda strange since DEF is against the NOx which occur mostly at high combustion temperatures (normally at high RPM). however clogging up DPF are an issue on low RPM since with low combustion temps a lot of soot occurs. and that's exactly the problem nowadays ... you need low combustion temps to reduce NOx but at the same time high combustion temps to avoid suut (and burn every particle into gas).
I think many farmers are already removing def on older equipment saving money on buying def and making around 30% fuel savings
The Agco def is hilarious 😂 poor quality sensor LOL
how is it pulling with the cart full
No issues with def for us on case side, but seemed agco always used cheaper quality stuff to us
Looks to be a bright boy.
Besides the common two track down falls does it have the power you thought it would?
we don't need a DEF override they just need to take it off all Agriculture equipment
Time to go to the Versatile 620.
Will you be able to get a real test of the two track given you are not pulling a full cart? And is the high pitch wine as noticable in person?
Yeah case only has so many def issues because they don’t have dpf or egr so you save fuel but use a lot of def causing a lot of contamination and never have to regen but I feel as thought agco uses all the emission systems and can’t figure it out
Such a happy little feller he is. Keep on agco there's no reason for non stop def issues.
The thing with the override is that people would leave it over ridden forever, technically Agco wouldn't have any business coming back and putting it back in if you didn't want them to cause you now own the Machine. Unless they'd have some kind of timer on it but than you'd be in the same boat because they spend so much time fixing def issues on other people's equipment too. They need to get rid of it all together
Def and particle filters don't cut emissions, the extra materials, platinum ect uses emissions to make plus shortens a vehicles lifespan considerably, therefore creating more emissions to make more vehicles.
That tractor has two flats 😏
Mike, I could of put 4 of your rigs between you and that semi.
Would you had to take the stuck for Franko since you pulled out in front
Or maybe your dealer should have invested in the inventory to keep you going when they order the tractor.
Agree almost unwritten rule
Pretty sure it’s actually a requirement to sell a line or series of equipment. There will be a minimum list of parts required in inventory. However dealers seem to always have the parts at another location, or rely on a regional distribution warehouse
I don't know what it is with the DEF, I'm guessing metric sensors are not compatible with imperial DEF and vice versa. 😂
My new RX also just survived like three days. Our Johnny poppers complain frequently in fact. There must have been a shipment of poor quality DEF-sensors.
How do they maneuver that seeder around end rows?
Hey mike another great video hello from ny haven’t started planting yet but getting anxious how many acres do you work keep the videos coming and god bless
I know what I would do.
There would be another Colour tractor coming down the road………..
When it's out of warranty just get it remapped and forget the DEF
Your son is very handsome. My youngest graduated hs here in Kansas yesterday.
Hey he's big enough for the buddy seat. Raised 6 kids on the buddy seat here in south Dakota.
Could you put an extra float outside the def tank and hold the float like it is full and make the tractor think it is full sorta like bypassing the safety switch on a lawnmower seat.
def technology is very complex and demanding, all tanks are equipped with a probe that allows analysis of the quality of def. the def reservoirs must be well filled.
Thats what the DEF is for isnt it? It reduced emission massively while you couldnt drive, that german effectiveness
i had a brand new telehandler (17 hours) sit dead on me (no throttle, no hydrostatic, e-brake on) in the middle of the stable while clearing manure a holly day morning, with the cow locked in tiny cages in a corner separated from their calves... al because of a faulty ad-blue gauge, tank filed to the brim and all other def sensors saying all clear. Called the rep who's an acquaintance he called a mech who took it upon himself to come on a day off, he could clear the error code but it would last about a minute...