The Audi Allroad Was The Most Unreliable Car Ever Made, But May Not Be For Much Longer
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Way to heart your own comment...
There is a black BMW on your stack. You never told us about it 🤔🤨
Stop buying new cars! Its far more economical to keep an old one (unless its German or built in Germany) older than 15yrs and learn to repair it.
Hoovies Garage Tyler Hoover... the type of guy to like his own comment. I love your channel, but Cars and Bids... not so much.
Hope you get all the money! Show my new channel some love, you'll love it!
This Allroad looks like it's already seen all of the roads.
Yeah, that plastic is really low grade for a car that was so expensive when new.
Haha
I live in the UK. I had the upgraded 2.0l 170bhp turbo diesel s-line estate (station wagon). The trim and general condition of the car was amazing and I loved the way it looked. The turbo however failed after 110k miles and the quote to take it out and replace it with a refurbished unit was crazy expensive as the labour cost to take it out was insane. They clearly didn’t care about the long term life of the car and the turbo they put in it just wasn’t up to holding the extra power over the standard 140bhp edition. Never again.
It has seen it all and now just wants to rest.
Psych0technic Audi AllRest
210k miles on my twin turbo 2.7, 6sp manual, air suspension allroad. Loving it!
You are a dyi-er?
Georgi Georgiev lol if he wasn’t, that thing would not be alive. Same goes for my 21 year old bmw though😂
Same here i have 2 actually going stage 3+ in a couple of days only thing id say is a real issue is the torque converter in the autos but i swapped to 6 speed and have no complaints.
@@kylekosman2294 you won't regret bigger turbos, been daily driving a k04 03 6 speed for a few years and love it!
E46 M52 probleme mit der hinterachse gehabt?
The wires dragging are a feature, it means they are well grounded ;)
Did you ever have the craze of fitting a thick rubber strip with a lightning bolt on them to 'ground' your car? They were very popular in the UK during the '70s, 'to prevent static build up'.
@@terencejay8845 lol for real?
@@jordanmercier3616 You can still buy them if you look around, but I didn't see one with the lightning bolt yet. They were so popular in the UK in the '70s the motoring industry issued releases saying they didn't work.
@@jonr3332 Maybe Hoovie could go back in time and make Audi build the car better :P
@@terencejay8845 I think i've seen what you're talking about, rubber strip attached at the rear end of the car that drags along the ground? I've always wondered what they were about. I'm in Australia by the way.
Anyone else completely shocked almost to the point of fainting that Tyler didn't buy this at the end of the video?
because the engine service and parts cost less then his broken BMWs usually. For someone who knows what they are doing a timing belt and upper engine re-seal on jack stands without a lift can be done in 8 hours or less.
Even he knows his limits!
I was about to post that! That looked like the perfect car for him!
Kris Nicholson really I don’t have a lift, I’ve built several 2.7t engines, can do timing belts and head reseals with my eyes closed almost. You don’t need a lift to do the job while it is nice to have it is not required. Knowledge and the correct tools and it is easy.
@@Tjockisen right up his alley. 1. Terrible car 2. Basically mechanically totalled. Tyler ," TAKE ME MONEY NOW!!"
Hoovie: "This car is terrible, you should never own one of these."
Hoovie talking himself into buying.
ha haa good one.
Had one of these in new Zealand for 3 years. Best car I've had in ages. With the front brakes from the V8 model and bigger antiroll bars, it drove great. Had sunroof, Bose, recaro and sport steering wheel. All worked as well as the suspension. The issues with the suspension are so easy to sort to.... Completely blew me away off road and I took it everywhere. Race down through mountain roads and then hike up the suspension for going off-road to Hart to reach scenic places for a lunch and even slept in it while out high up in the hills. Well insulated and super quiet. With regular maintenance, I would buy it again, even today.
I bought one for $400! Used 125 k miles!
Sitting for 6 years.
Very smooth ride and comfortable.
But the suspension is air shocks don't operate.
I think I have to buy the whole computer for it
with the same engine? 2.7t?
@@riccardocastiglioni4311 yean mine was a 2.7t. 😁
@@victorchirilas9005 thanks 😊
@@melissakarlsen1706I got a 4.2 ALLROAD for free
Hoovie: so today I bought this 2003 Audi Allroad-
Doug DeMuro: (Angry chimpanzee Noises intensify)
Next day:
Hoovie: Today I'm here with this very broken Land Rover Defender belonging to Doug Demuro. He is in the hospital though as he crashed into my house trying to kill the Audi in my garage. We're going to take it to the Wizard's now and see what he thinks we can do for Doug.
And deep nose breathing!
lol im dying🤣🤣
Hi. I have had now three of these and many basic A6 quattros. ITS a matter of a DIY or not. Its economically impossible to service these in VAG service. I do all my self and feel really comfortable driving them. I have had all engines now and 2.7Bit + manual 6 speed is the best solution. 😂
Doug has to go to the wizards because his Google fu sucks
I was expecting him to end it with "I don't think it's that bad, that's why I bought it" :D
i was hoping he would take it to wizzard
@@moscowhq9978 Well, that would always bring a good reaction
Oh weezardd
I don’t know what engine options did you had in the US but back in Europe we had 1.9tdi and 2.5tdi wich were bulletproof. There are still a lot of them on the roads.
Exactly... US and EU audis seems to be a diffetent cars since EU audis are doing pretty well with reliability if well looked after.
2.7 L twin turbo was the only engine offered in the United States .
Welp, we have a knack for having uninteresting engines, which usually correlate to reliability at least. I will say though, the 2.5tdi V6 is AWFUL at everything, even if the 1.9 is probably the best diesel engine ever made
The 2.5 TDi was not all that reliable.
2.7tdi is also bulletproof
I own a C5 allroad with the BAS 4.2V8 and as much as I DO love it, everything requires engine removal. It's so common that as my brother and I walked into the Audi dealer's workshop, he pointed to one of THREE engineless Audis and said "must've needed a new wiper blade". THAT'S how bad it is. *But it's OUR fault* - we WANTED a north-south engine with 4WD, ground clearance and true offroad capability, which forced Audi to do the following ;
• A north/south engine in a 4WD car without a transfer case is always going hang way forward, so Audi shortened it by moving the timing gear into the bellhousing. Day one of ownership I bought an engine crane to replace the broken slippers and worn tensioners etc. They didn't have a choice tho.
• On top of that, Audi needed to keep the nose short enough to drive off road and not get stuck, so they HAD to introduce "service mode" where you have to pull the front out to even SEE the serpentine belt.
• We wanted ground clearance so we got airbags. Stones create splits in the bags that are only noticeable when the height puts the split on the rolled bit, and being kinda random we tend not to fix them immediately (it's hard to even figure out which bag) so the same top notch wabco compressor as every mercedes uses wears out.
• I guess the eye-level torpedo tube they put the steering rack in was necessitated by the huge range of ride heights? The only job I delegated to a genuine Audi dealership was replacing p/s hoses and after 6.5 hours they said "we couldn't get a tool on one of the bolts properly but it's probably tight enough". THAT'S what working on an Audi is like.
• So it's a double firewall deal, with the battery and booster etc on top of the torpedo tube. Fun fact - the two drains in the bottom get blocked up and the car floods. Literally this morning I learned this, my battery was within one inch of being totally underwater, and it floods the cabin when you drive off or go up a hill. But it's a 10 second fix that's easily checked annually.
They really are a GOOD vehicle - the only non-dedicated 4WD offroad vehicle to pass landrover's death test. But if you HAVE to work on one, buy an engine crane, and a therapist.
Hoovie: this is a terrible car
Hoovie a couple days later: So I bought this new audi allroad
He's pure clickbait garbage, has no idea about cars, talks like a 12 year old, and can't even dress up properly for his videos.
Taipei Geek Then Unsubscribe.
Doug DeMuro: *Kia Spectra and you?! You both going down!*
@@TaipeiGeek and that is why he has 230,000 views, and over 1 milion subscribers. and you have, well NONE
Paul Schless absolutely agree with you, and you prove my point. This is how Google works. Shit floats on water, as they say.
I remember when a Yellow Land Rover Defender was parked on top of one of these.
I also remeber it with a kia next to it ;)
Only og Doug fans would know😂
I bRoKe ThE sTeErInG wHeEl
Two unreliable crap boxes decided to get busy
Nice TVR Tuscun
"The Audi Allroad WAS the most unreliable car ever made, but I've since bought multiple BMWs that were far worse" - Hoovie.
Hoovie: "Maybe this Audi Allroad isn't all that bad..."
Doug DeMuro: "Hoovie needs an intervention" - fires up the Land Rover Defender for a road trip.
lol
(But does he make it there????)
I drove one of these new in 2002 and I thought it was AWESOME. The interior was great. The Bose sound system was very nice. Why would they change the original one for that crappy, adolescent, stolen-looking thing? It drove great, it had a suspension-lifting system that worked great.
I loved it. Sad to see it this worn out.
Maybe to have bluetooth /shrug
Or the stock one crapped out like half the other stuff on this car..
This car is trash
These cars are good, the point is people trash them and break thinking it is a tank it can do anything. No, it is a car.
ZN you are very right. Now luckily they make head units that look stock that offer Bluetooth www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios/FM-AM-Radio-with-USB-Bluetooth
2.7 is an absolute iconic engine. I have a 2000 Stage 3+ S4, one of the fastest cars I have ever driven. An absolute rocket ship!
I was driving behind one of these a few weeks ago and it killed itself right in front of me. I have never seen so much smoke come out of a car. 😂
oh then you never drove behind my wife or I in our daily drivers yes cracked heads or headgasket wont stop a lil 4cyl mitsubishi or ford escort evar.
My dad was once driving behind a car, and we thought it was getting foggy, there was that much smoke coming out from the car in front.
Black smoke was normal in my 2.5 TDI A6...
@@johnditch6357 what Mitsubishi are you talking about!!
@@brian_jake 1974 Dodge Branded but 111% misubishi was my sisters. great lil car.
My favorite part about owning one was hearing that engine startup in the morning...but then I was often greeted by the all-too familiar amber glow of the check engine light.
My father bought one of these new. Green with green leather. Only 3 air suspensions ever worked at the same time. (EDIT: What’s the VIN? I’m starting to wonder if this is his car!)
Plate to VIN it on VINwiki and get back to us!
Graham Dolamore No dice. I think that’s hoovies dealer plate that he slaps on temporary automotive fosters.
@gunit 010 u think ur edgy by saying that? It could be his if its the same spec, dont be weird mouthbreather
Same. Ours did same thing. One leaked and it "levelled" itself slammed on the ground.
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I feel like Hoovie needs to buy a first generation VW Touareg. Lots of people are recommending this car right now, and I'd love to hear his perspective on this "Bargain"
Why, nooo... I work at a VW/Audi dealer, every time an old Touareg enters it either leaves for partout or with huge repair bills
@@EuroTrashLife TFL TH-cam channel purchased a cheap one quite a while ago and they've taken it off road and all sorts, don't think they've had any issues with it
Good Lord, first gen Tour Hogs were the worst!! I was there when they came out.
Phil Atkins one with a V10 diesel, too haha
@@nmg997 I had that engine in my Phaeton. Would recommend
I have an 02 allroad that's driving Great, just do your maintenance on it like any car and you will be find not to mention they are very cool and versatile.
I owned a high trim level Passat from that same era, let’s just say I carried a gallon of every type of fluid in my trunk
Really?
So, do I.
Never had an issue with leaks on any of my cars, because I fix them before they become a problem.
You should've bought a diesel. Here in Europe a lot are diesels and my sister had one from the year 2002 for about 6 years and my dad one from 2003 for a short while. Never had any big issues with it!
But than again, the 1.9TDI from de Volkswagen-Audi Group is really the last terminator they've ever made. Had it in a Golf mk4 and an A3 8P. Love those engines in their 'all or nothing' power delivery due to the turbo lag and their robustness, all the while they are efficient as hell! Just give it it's oil and filters on time. Change the timing belt on time and those things will outlive your own grandchildren.
The petrol engines weren't that great. The only one was the 1.8T that was good which later models began to gain a thirst for oil. And the 2.0TDI that came after that where sh*t as well due to errors in the headdesign which blew out your gasket and also had turbo problems for days. Biggest issue was that the head would often just crack due to a design flaw. It's only with the 1.6TDI en 2.0TDI common rail that they redeemed their self for a bit even though you still had critical design flaws: central bolt of the oil pump that gets dull over a time and refused to pump oil into the engine... And the fuelpump of Bosch that was designed with no margins and with wrong fuel could blow out the pump and shoot little metal particles through your entiiiiiire fuel system... But besides that, they were just fine 😅
@@a3bmm594 thanks for reminding me to always buy Japanese cars !
"ruf" - Hoovie literally every video
Subaru was and still crushing it
Rüüüf
Saying ROOOOOOF sounds weird to me.
He should buy a RUF
Ok Hoovie do you say "spuf" when saying the word spoof?
My mom has one of these. It was fast, comfortable,an animal through midwestern snowstorms and very reliable. Today it lives at their winter home in Arizona where it’s still delivering perfectly reliable service. Every mechanic that has serviced it has offered to buy it, the 2.7 allroads have a cult following for a reason.
I'd your mom Marge?
I had one for ten years, never had a problem with it. It had 50000 miles when I bought and I put over 210 thousand miles on before I traded it in for 2008 RS4
Wtf
@Believe Inyourself there's alot of cars like that now a days. My gfs 2012 Malibu LTZ is the most over engineered shit I've ever laid eyes on. You have to pull the front bumper for everything, including changing headlights. The V6 also eats thru timing chains like nerds rope. It's more bs than my MK7 Jetta lol. Modern manufacturers are just rubbing this over engineering shit in our faces while we drive to the dealers with our tails between our legs and our wallets on a fasting diet cause they're making everything impossible to work on at home. You know Ford has it's own specific tools nowadays to work on their stuff? 15 years ago people shit up and down the name of BMW for doing the same thing lol.
@blaise takoy LOL really hard till I lose my lunch 2 cycle air cooled engines make more cents.
That's some seriously Fake News you just posted. Every car, even Toyotas, have probelms with over 200,000 miles on them.
blaise takoy And I thought we were talking about reliability!! I changed all the belts at 78000 miles, had full inspection and auto box oil changed. That was it. I didn’t change the timing belt myself so I don’t know how difficult it was to change. I’ve owned a lot of cars, never once I’ve I asked the Garrage how difficult it is to change a timing belt or chain, never.!
i was waiting to see car wizards face when hoovie brings this to him. Suprised you didnt buy it
i was expecting that too
He should have. Low restrictions cats and no mufflers, a bit of truck bed-liner to touch up here and there.
When even he didn’t by it, you know it was bad.
Pretty bad when a guy who's gotten rich from buying crappy cars passes
I've got a 2001 Allroad with about 140k miles on it, original turbos, air springs, everything. Never replaced anything but liquids, filters, and brakes. I don't know how you guys over there manage to break these brilliant cars all the time.
Legitly don't know must be hooning the twins
Had one with over 250k miles with original turbos. Only thing that went wrong was the air springs and only three of those broke.
Our roads are filled with pot holes, heavy bumps are common. Likely, we hit more bumps on a daily commute than you hit commuting for a year. Hoovie was overexaggerating the turbo issue, those original 2.7T ones have lasted me 150K miles before I sold the car to another person. The transmissions on the other hand, they will go, if you have 140K miles with the 2.7T, you likely have already started getting transmission codes by now. Usually ZF in that year lasted 150K-200K miles.
After stage 2 my s4 just couldn’t handle 1,500 miles without a boost pipe popping off or some sort of cooler I’m icing fluids😭
Audi's twin cam, twin turbo, 5 valve per cylinder, variable valve timing, ULEV 2.7T with CANBUS was WAY ahead of it's time, and I've owned and driven one long enough to know. I have 5 vehicles, but my '01 A6 2.7T manual 6 speed sedan has been my daily all-season driver for 19 years and over 200,000 miles (335k, as I'm in Canada.) I considered Allroad at the time, but after two earlier Avants preferred the unique "fitted" Bauhaus styling of the sedan better. Plus, I wanted the 6 speed and I couldn't find an Allroad with one. My 2001 A6 2.7T was a Audi-Canada executive car bought with very low mileage through factory auction just before the '02s came out. As CPO they added another 3 yrs/80K giving me up to 6 years and 100,000 miles (160K) of total warranty + servicing.
It's a gorgeous car, gets lots of compliments with its unique "vanilla/royal blue" (looks way better than that sounds) interior and real sycamore wood accents plus a deep blue "Ming" pearl exterior. Right at the end of their 12 year no-rust warranty I got Audi to pay for lots of new panels and 60% of a full, proper repaint, so it's still a joy to detail. Xenon lamps are kept crystal clear, newer style rims, Conti DWS06 tires, nobody would have any idea how old and used it really is. I think '01 was a time when quality and content were at peak. This was the last year of full semi-aniline leather INCLUDING the seat backs and door panels, which has worn well and still smells great. Factory GPS and EVERYTHING still works: power rear shade, high bolster power sport seats, sport suspension (same shocks as new.) Replaced the cd changer with a 60Gb Phatnoise hard drive driven by the stock Bose system with updated speakers. Replaced turbos at 140K miles, steering rack at 180K, but all other maintenance on this car has been normal wear and tear, perfectly acceptable, nothing extraordinary. I do some things myself but the big stuff's done by an honest, experienced independent shop and have never deferred maintenance, so I think that makes a big difference. For $250 I replaced the notorious dead-pixels display. I never chipped it, choosing longevity over bigger speeding tickets and over-beating it.
Several times I've had the opportunity to sell it but frankly have yet to find a more capable, quick, satisfying and affordable daily (especially winter driver) that would justify the big $pread, or the unavoidable "just more stuff to fix" on about any new luxury car. Just a great, underrated ride that can still be enjoyed driving briskly in any season.
I have an 02 2.7t 6 spd ming blue lol what speakers did you use to upgrade the bose?
I love how you described the car. That sums up the reason I haven't parted with my 2000 Audi a6 v8. I particularly love the widebody fenders, and of course the sound from the muffler deleted v8. Mine is brilliant black exterior with onyx black/vanilla interior.
I have a B6 Avant instead of a C5 Allroad, but it's been such a great car. It's a classic Audi joke that "service position" means remove the front end, and while that can be annoying, it's actually pretty easy. The headlights and front bumper are quick to remove and the whole core support slides forward to make access super easy. It's better than doing a timing belt on a Golf where you have to squeeze through the wheel well!
Like you said of your car, the styling of these vehicles still look fantastic today. Many non-car people are surprised to find my wagon is 15 years old. Everything about the interior just feels good and, besides the B6's lack of cupholders, everything else is really well designed. I don't know why Audi get's a bad rap in comparison to other German manufacturers, it's really just a Volkswagen that's styled differently. I know people that've had way more problems with their Jetta or Golf than I've had with my Audi.
Paul Marentette
B6 A4 1.8t owner here , love my Audi
@@redrock861 I just bought an 01' A6 4.2! I used to have a 98' A6 with the 2.8 and I decided to buy the 01 after I found it for a good deal.
This dude doesn’t really know what “reliable” means😂
He knows what it means, he just doesn’t care lol
UK here. Lots of these about here, because the TDI lumps in these are waaaaaaaay better.
Good point. Still the only car I’ve ever rejected though... Electrics on mine were 🤪.
@@samcadwallader2899 iirc mine was the 2.5, but the engine was the least of its worries! RS2 👏🏻!!
US only came with 2.7T
@@samcadwallader2899 2.5 Inline 5 is bulletproof. 2.5 V6 is shit
@@corwininadsm They made a few with the 4.2L as well.
I have one. 2001 Allroad 2.7t. 160,000 miles, still runs great. Absolutely love the thing.
Edit: Forgot to mention it's the manual model. It's also, like the one in the video, GREEN. EVERYWHERE. Personally, I like it, but it is a little overkill. I have had one turbo fail and it was a bit of a pain to replace, but I love the thing so much I can look past it. Never had the air suspension fail, and I love it to pieces.
Same!👍🏻
How much did the turbo replacement run you?
@@johndoee4742 I admit I don't quite remember, but I can say that if I had it done at a shop it would have been twice the cost. Hardest thing I've every replaced on anything, not just a car. The joke about having to remove the entire front half of the car to do anything is absolutely true. I'll edit this comment when I find the receipt.
@@cameronlane1281 I appreciate it👍🏻. I'm looking at a 2001 standard allroad 90k on it and just curious if I should actually get it. Never had an audi before so not sure. They did the timing belt and all the add ons that go with that, and the air suspension replacement doesn't seem top hard of a job to do myself, but I wouldn't even try doing a turbo. I appreciate the response
The C5 Allroad was from the A6 line, so there's a lot of nice stuff (auto dimming and heated mirrors, heated front and rear seats, etc etc). This car with the 4.2 is FREAKING AMAZING, and a different beast than the ones with the 2.7t. The air ride is no more of an annoyance than any other car with air suspension.
2.7ts also respond to tuning very well
The 2.7 with the 6sp is sublime bruh
Jack McMaster 100% agree. My Allroad had the 4.2, but my tech and I talked a lot about how awesome the 2.7t can be with the right build. He knew a few that would run circles around my stock 4.2.
We're all pretty much witnessing the evolution of Tyler into a much more powerful and obscure entity: Doug DeMuro.
Should've given him evolution candies to evolve faster
I know I recognized it from Doug too
I could listen to Tyler all day but I quit Doug de muro,he's just weird.
Hell no!!!
2001 green/green Allroad owner here. Mine's a 2.7t Tiptronic like this one, and I absolutely love it so far! It has been converted to regular coil springs, but the other common issues are non-existent for me so far.
So...not economically viable to keep them air?
It uses the same coils from A6 Avant ?
Dougs Hummer ran over that PT Cruiser. His Land Rover struggled to even get on top of that allroad
Tyler is disorientated because it's a car that even being supposedly completely unreliable it works better than most of his fleet XDDDD
Wow, I had one of these (U.K. diesel) one of best cars I’ve had, practical with estate form, got me everywhere I wanted to go. Kept it for 8 years with very little problems other than general servicing.... I still miss the car to this day
I think the words "UK Diesel" had alot to do with your experience.
Key part... "General servicing"
Most people in North America think you just half ass services and then cry when the car breaks constantly down the road lol.
I was warned by everyone when I bought my old B6 A4 and it's been one of the most reliable and inexpensive cars to maintain that I've owned to date.
@@freakinbox Excellent point
@@freakinbox exactly! I was afraid of German cars my whole life until I started doing my homework, went into the real world & actually started interacting with them when I'd finally had it with spending thousands on my Acuras. Contrary to US belief, Japanese cars can also cost alot when they break & they do break. I found all the "trashed" bmw/benzes I saw were trashed because of neglect, abuse, & half-assing. If your money supply isn't endless, it does take a different mindset to own a German car here & most ppl in the US don't have that mindset unfortunately.
Yeah well I love German cars, been driving them for about 20 years, started with a bmw 3 series, then moved to Audi, loving the Quattro drive especially in the Scottish climate.
I’m now on my 5th German car and still have 4 of them ( all Audi) my daily is an A8 diesel, I’ve a 97 4.2 A8 sport, a 96 2.6v6 cabriolet, and a 90 2.3 20v (7a) Quattro sport coupe. Little bit of something for different occasions and driving moods lol
The front end comes ‘off’ easily and as one piece with a few bolts and will swing out the way to allow access to the front of the engine without dropping coolant, AC gas, or other fluids, people just don’t realize and struggle in the tight space or remove all the hoses and radiators by draining the fluids 🙄
Never knew that, go figure.
And how you can remove radiator without dropping coolant? Or if you leave it in its place, how it helps with room?
xiukn8 the radiator, condenser and oil coolers etc stay attached to the front cross member, once the bolts are out you can leave the hoses connected and pull the front end out for plenty of room, if more work or room is needed, drain and unclip the hoses and remove the whole front end cassette as a single item, it’s quick and easy... people don’t know and struggle. 🤨
You’re actually right after working on a few of these this is by far the easiest way to do it
@@xiukn8 You dont remove them, just slide the front out into what is known as the service position.
Remove all of the bolts that go into the frame and insert 2 long bolts for the assembly to rest on, then slide the whole thing out.
That gives you plenty of room to do whatever, even taking the entire engine out (even though it's supposed to go out from beneath).
The timing belt is extremely easy to do on this car and for the service position you don't have to fully take off the front you can just move it forward about 6 in and you'll have plenty of room to do everything
It's only like a $1,200 job at one of the best shops near me for Audis plus parts
Dude I had a 6-speed manual 2003, yanked out the air suspension and replaced it with Arnott spring conversion kit, APR Stage 1 tune, thicker anti-roll bars, did the timing belt and water pump, etc. and drove it 14,000 miles all around the United States one summer (2014) hitting many national parks, and it performed beautifully. Yes they are unreliable, but if you don't have the automatic, you convert the air supension, and you maintain it well, it's a pretty awesome do-it-all car that should run for a while.
Great for someone mechanically minded, but the majority of people who bought these things (and most Audis) aren't, so off to the scrapheap they go once the shitty suspension or transmission craps itself.
The most valuable part of the allroad is the rear cargo cover.
2002 owner with 173k miles refusing to give up until 200k miles. Unfortunately bushings, o-rings, seals, hoses, plastics and wires start to deteriorate because of age. Best damm snow mobile ever for a wagon minus the heater core❕
Buy your parts from FCP Euro ( guaranteed lifetime parts ) if you really want to afford this car.
I have an 01 with 240k runs like a top, the struts can be easily converted. Very reliable once you do that
Hoovie: "The best station wagons of the time were Mercedes and BMW"
Me: sad Subaru noises...
*sad EJ rumble*
I was thinking along the same lines. Did he forget the Outback?
He’s never been in an Australian v8 wagon....
Yea I agree good buddy, Subaru is quite better than all the Eurotrash, I don’t even wanna hear it about the headgaskets from anyone, that said, I love my E39 although I’ve already dumped hundreds more than I ever dumped into my Fozzy
Volvo V70 stations are more reliable and more popular in the Netherlands. Especially with a nice 5 cilinder.
Doug: this car is only good for crushing
Hoovie: I want to buy that
Well, Hoovie does still have the Excursion...
Tyler how could you fail to mention the Subaru Outback 😭
This. Allroad was "inspired" by Outback.
@@kimihikotsukagoshi8946 The Outback pretty much started the whole trend..
@@crispindry2815 the emoji is a replacement for all punctuation ☔
He mentioned luxury wagons. Outback is not luxury
@@BlakeGibbons my 05 LL Bean 3.0r begs to differ
When Audi’s work they are the best ... love hate relationship
My A4 is a dream.
Last time I was this early Corona was a drink.
Last time I was this early, the "Last time I was this early" meme didn’t exist 😂
haha that's a good one!
Alcohol solves all problems ;)
8:15 your neighbors must love you 😆
I’ve had several of them without any particular parts to fail on any of them. I could mention loooots of other cars I would rather give the title of a lemon
working at a car wash, those rims were a nightmare
Probably great to get mud in for an off-road vehicle.
I’m a detailer I hear you, you’d have to move the car a million times to get the spokes all clean
@@lawnmowerdude mud wasn't a problem, the high pressure wands took care of that. It was brake dust, you had to floss it out with degreaser
Audi executives: “The Subaru Outback is a popular car, let’s make one.”
Audi engineers: “We’ll put in expensive air suspension that uses the cheapest plastic air hoses we can find and stuff the engine bay with so much crap so nobody can access any basic maintenance items. Plastic EVERYTHING so that it all becomes brittle quickly and cracks/leaks!”
Executives: “Brilliant!”
The “all plastic parts” is just baffling when you think about it. Some parts, yes, but plastic for cooling parts? Thats absurd and definitely planned obsolescence.
@@kenim on their older models plastic bits held up perfect, after c4 everything got low grade materials
Because Subaru’s don’t become leaky messes at 80k. Perhaps the most overrated brand today, plus driving a Subaru is such a non-rewarding experience.
Actually, you say that but the A4 wagon with the 1.8T and a manual is honestly fairly reliable. Obviously that had to change for the all road as they weren’t making enough money on repairs
The AllRoad was a unique, advanced and cool car at the time. On the manual versions, one could even have low range as an optional extra! And, if I recall correctly, Porsche also had a finger in the Pie with the development of the AllRoad, but to a lesser extend compared to the RS2.
11:52 I agree. Just watch in ten years, all the cars with CVT piling up in the junkyards.
Valdeck all of them, yes
If it's a Nissan CVT you won't have to wait half that long.
Except Toyotas.
Audi allroad: i am the worst car in the world!
Yugo 45: hold my slivowiz
I think the Yugo would be more reliable, at least that's not complicated in any way, and easy to service...
Fix the Yugo with tin cans and duct tape
My 2.5tdi allroad has 431K and stil going strong.. great car ! although it cost a lot in the Netherlands, about 208 euros road tax a month excl insurance. but its worth it
These were amazing cars in their day. I had an 04. That 2.7T from the S4 was an awesome motor and could have been had with a stick. Biggest issue was the air suspension. One of the best cars I had but glad I didn’t keep into high miles!
Same here..had 2003 2.7 all road..loved the car..ride was smooth as hell, great acceleration and comfort. Suspension air bags sucked as they always went and couldn't afford to replace after a while..had 150k when I gave up😄
i had one of these with the v8 and a manual. when i got it i fixed the air suspension and never had a problem with it.
lol timing chain guides
Well that manual would bypass a lot of crap from an auto
From my years working for a car repair shop, I can tell you there are a lot of cars that are made to go bad. The car companies make sure things will break, so their car parts get sold and their network of repair shops will have their payday, and you'll get screwed in the process. For sure, I am going to buy electric next time around.
Even electric cars break, buddy. Yes, there are less parts in the engine, but they also have suspension, braking systems, etc. Teslas building quality has to improve. Just saying. From your name I can see that you are from Scandinavia? Dont know much about the Polestar brand of Volvo to be honest. They seem decent. But I wouldnt want to be the test mule. Leasing? Lol. :)
Never put yourself in a position where you're forced to do business with someone. Many electrics have proprietory parts and repair info that you can't get anywhere else. See Rich Rebuilds and the episode that shows the chip Tesla locks up, forcing you to buy a new touch screen. There is a guy in the Silicon Valley who has hacked them and is rebooting chips from all over the world, sent in from people who needed to buy a whole screen.
Tesla charges money for the features like autopilot and it is non transferable at around 10k..
@@Gentleman...Driver Less parts? Nothing breaks in those engines! No service to change oil, filters, belts, clutch, turbochargers, fuel pump, spark plugs and other moving parts that break all the time. The last repair bill on my Volvo was nearly 3500$! I almost fainted. I have many friends that drive electric, and all say that the maintenance cost is very small compared to what they used to pay on their ICE cars. They basically fill window washer fluid and change wiperblades, not much more on such new cars. The Tesla owners say their cars initial issues has been sorted out and they drive the best cars they have ever owned. Acceleration better then most supercars? We are going to buy electric.
The Japanese do not make cars that "are made to go bad". Quiet the opposite. They're engineered to last. Reliable.
My mechanics love Hondas and Toyotas. Hyundai a close 3rd.
Oh no, hoovie's finally lost it. He can't even spell "Reliable" anymore...
Edit: He fixed the title lol
I guess its a word he hardly uses
reliable is not a word in Hoovies vocabulary
@@johnditch6357 True
Not sure if the USA got it, but the Audi Allroad was available with the 2.5TDI engine and a manual gearbox. The only problem then is the adjustable suspension.
Green on green... just like my first car, 1973 Dodge Dart. Everything old is new again. ☘️
"My daddy, Doug DeMuro" LOL. Instant LIKE!
THIIISS, is my son
230k on mine! Love it every day!
My daily is an 03 allroad 6 speed with K04s making 370hp at the wheels. Air suspension intact. It's a very unique car, but isn't that unreliable. Once you eliminate a bunch of stuff it's way better
Love to hear that! Mines too but not with K04s :(
I have 2001 with 130k km on it and I love it. No problem in last 2 years. 2.7T.
Same, mines at 200k, 2003 though, still running fine with the done maintenance intervals for timmingbelt/fluids etc, this dude talking out of his ass about the 2.7t pisses me off, the turbos are still holding up over the years of beating on them
@@Boomstruck123 I know that gearbox is not great but people with S4 cars say I need to change oil every year before summer and it last long. The price for this is 120 CAD if I do it myself. Not bad for maintenance. Other then that I changed water pump with all around when mechanic removed a front end. This is basically several bolts and it was built to be in service position. I'm not sure about air suspension yet but it is the main feature of the car because without it, it is just a6 wagon.
@@st.k.4528 get rid of this rolling pile of crap asap. Terrible car.
@@Thigrandil Is this opinion based on experience?
@@st.k.4528 no. Based on a lot of audi drivers feedback. What is it's remaining value? 400$?
I love these cars work on them everyday.
Just gotta address the leaks and cosmetics.
6spd swap,oem k04 turbos, airride upgrade or delete and enjoy.
IF they were good cars, you wouldn't be working on them every day.
@@nickv4073 LOL
@@nickv4073 There are Fix Or Repair Daily's cousin
Yes!!!
No neons?
Bought mine wich was the cheapest,serviced it right away - timing belt,oil etc,mapped it to 310bhp and after 2 years of daily terror i've changed only some cheap sensors to this day.The car runs perfectly it even has 8y old lpg installed :)
Cmon hoovie you should add an Audi in the garage !!! That would me noice to see
Zfb Tln because a Lexus would be boring.
I'm glad someone else wants to save it. Admittedly for a different reason, but I'll take it. I just hate to see cars die......
@Zfb Tln this is the most American thing I've ever heard.
gErMaN cArS sUcK sO hArD, iT DiDnT eVeN LaSt fOr 150 000 MiLeS. I DiD EvErYtHiNg, cHanGeD OiL eVeRy 100 000 MiLeS.
@Zfb Tln European here
I own a BMW 1 series E87. Has 340 000 km. My parents have Audi Q5 2.0 TDI. Soon to hit 300 000km. Not a single serious issue has occured. My family only ever owned European cars. (Had Ford back in the older days, they said they are not going back to Ford ever again).
So... if you buy shitboxes for $3000 with no history and after it had 7 crashes and had been in 2 rivers, you can't expect much.
Have a nice day.
You spelled garbage wrong
One of my uncles had an Allroad(diesel) for 12 years and did over 250,000km. He drives a Lexus RX now and misses the Allroad.
I think it's safe to assume the diesel is waaaay more reliable than a twin-turbo V6 (I'd hazard a guess that the diesels have kept Audi in business this whole time as well... that and the lease-car cult).
Doctor Robert In this gen you got the 2.5 V6 TDI. In theory, it could have been a solid engine, just running on old tech.
However, the TDI’s eat camshafts and heads, issues with the injector fuel pump is a common deal as well, and heard of a couple of issues on turbos.
2.5 V6 TDI has an horrid rep on itself in general sadly. I’d love to own one myself. Think the safest bet in the Allroad is the 4.2 V8 lol.
Lets be real here, the audi allroad may be unreliable and hard to service, but I`d be willing to bet that thats`s only the case with the spec hoovie had in the vid. Here in the EU they are usually 1.9TDi (or sometimes 2.5TDi), with a manual, and I think many of them came on coil springs (though I can`t confirm what was standard), so most of them have a bulletproof engine (particularly if you delete the EGR) and they come with a propor gearbox which isn`t known for failing and, again, I think (but can`t confirm) that they came on coil springs as standard, making the EU spec allroad a perfectly sensible buy which should`t cost too much to run or maintain. That being said I hate the allroad because the A6 wagon exists, and the allroad is just an A6 with slightly raised suspension and some plastic cladding in a futile attempt to make it look rugged and offroad capable, when in reality the relatvely long wheelbase and lack of propor offroad suspension has the net effect of making the car slightly less likely to scrape when driving down a bumpy dirt or gravel road (where it will likely spend less than 10% of it's life), while making it basicly no better in slippery conditions like wet grass or mud, and handle slightly worse on road (where it will spend like 90% of it's life) thanks to softer suspension, raised ride height (and center of gravity) and the (likely) allterrain tyres
@@andreanastacio9548 Precisely! Audi's game plan at the time (and arguably most German manufacturers then and since) was "sell the good models in Europe, where they care, and the self-destructing models in America, where they lease."
@@Doctor_Robert I wouldn`t go so far as to say that they deliberately sell ticking time bombs in the USA, but rather that the USA likely isn`t the most lucrative market for them, particularly because they go for large petrol engines and automatics, as well as lots of toys, while the rest of the world often goes for 4 or sometimes 6 cylinders, often diesels, and until recently manuals were more popular as well as easier to make reliable, so my guess is that much more time and money is spent developing the powertrains that most of the world will go for, than the ones americans specificly will want, so the german`s reputation suffers in north america as a result
I owned a B5 S4 6spd with full exhaust, downpipes and Tial 605 turbos. 550 hp and I LOVED the exhaust tone on the 2.7T. That car was great and even with all the mods, could still manage 30mpg with AWD on road trips! Nogaro blue. Miss it so much! Sold to pay for home repairs! Dang life ruining fun!
any overly complicated car will be unreliable after 20 years, regardless of the brand. Especially if it has not been properly maintained.
It's one thing when the gadgets are unreliable, it's another thing when things like, you know, the motor and transmission are completely failed in less than 100k miles... Audi, Volkswagen, BMW are a disgrace and absolutely do not in any way deserve the reputation they had in the 2000 to 2010 range, even now they are wildly overvalued
@@finish_my_projects exactly, I am so sick of people praising german engineering...like HOW does this make sense, the most unreliable, expensive, overpriced, depreciating, plastic junk is the best??? Undeserving is a good word, I've been puzzled my entire existence how everyone sees it so differently 🤯🤯🤯
@@VNCTHE1 I believe they take full advantage of "perception of quality" vs actual quality...
@@finish_my_projects how do those german brands keep this up for decades though? Proof that the human mind wants to fit in more than make sense....
@@finish_my_projects No, actually no...
Just picked up my first one yesterday! Super hyped enjoying it so far :)
a couple grand for a used 2.7? sign me up cause I have a few available :D In my case, I have an 00 A6 with the same engine and the 6 spd manual. Did a turbo upgrade to BW K04s and it has been a super reliable car, had it for 15 years now. Got a newer A6 in the mean time but still have that. 450hp is fun for a manual daily driver. These cars have a lot of potential when tuned and if you do the repairs right, they do last. There are a couple of common failure points including the disaster of the 5hp19 transmissions but once mitigated, they are not bad. Only way to mitigate the trans issue is a manual swap though :D
My father had one brand new with the 2.5 diesel engine, it has been a great car, super cool for the time, really different from everything else and never had a problem in 5 years of ownership. It had the exact same spec of this one (but with leather/alcantara seats, much better and cooler than full leather): that interior was (and still is) absolutely gorgeous. It really was something special.
I love the green interior; very '70s! I'm disappointed my dad's VW Bora has such a boring black interior.
The bora was only the mkiv Jetta here in the states right? Or does bora refer to all generations of jettas? I used to have an mkiv Jetta and loved it to bits.
Love that you typed '70s and not 70's. Thank you!!!
@@EM-cc6gi Bora is the mk4 Jetta. Before that it was called Vento, and has been called the Jetta ever since the mk5.
All car interiors are getting boring, you can have whatever you want as long as it’s either black, gray, or tan.
I love the design of this car. Would be amazing to do a massive Honda swap, throw a J35 (the 290hp of course) with 6 speed manual and regular struts suspension.
a 1.9 tdi with a 6 speed would do.
My 2.7t Manuel has 360.000 km with his first engine and the second air suspension. These cars are Bomb proof in my opinion
I actually love the look of the Audi when it first came out.
I have a 2.8 and has 480.000 km still running best car I ever owned
Things are going really lean when Hoovie just takes a car for a ride instead of buying it...
Reeeeally lean!
well my dad has one, and he loves it. yesss, it got all the problems with oil, windows moter problems, transmition, and clutch, and airconditioning is not working, but he still loves it ....
Yeah, get a Volvo "allroad" so XC far nicer cars for sure
What 😂 volvo xc70 are so much more shittier
My dad has one, and it is a piece of junk.
I’m waiting for the American to comment who will claim that volvo is shit like any other european car.
The Allroad is way better.
I owned both.
The Volvo is just for looks, the Audi is really good offroad.
The Volvo looks dated, the Audi is still good-looking (my opinion of course).
Volvos quality is ok, but better go for an 850 or something before that, they'll last forever. The Audi is reliable, besides the Air Suspension, which can be replaced with quality parts and will last or you can go for coil springs. After that, it'll run forever. Our 2.5 TDI has 540.000km and no engine problems whatsoever.
Cengiz Mert Karabulut I am American.
A lovely lady my wife and I knew gave us a ride to the airport years ago in her all road very similar to this one. I remember how handsome it was and rode beautifully. She kept it perfect. Some years later we were talking and I inquired if she still had it....Oh NOOOO, she said the air suspension ended up requiring $5,000 worth of work just before the warranty ran out. She considered that a bad omen, and traded it for a new Subaru wagon...Still has it, loves it....
Audi’s “Service position” is how I cut my teeth as a mechanic. Over 10 hours labor to replace a high pressure fuel pump is absurd. But you are right, newer cars have a lot going for them but they are coming back with hard engine issues. You can’t just force an absurd amount of boost on a four cylinder engine and expect it to live a long life. BMW, Mercedes and Volvo have had issues trying to make a four cylinder engine match the output of an 6 or 8 cylinder engine. Domestic brands like Ford have had similar issues as well but they can’t scoot by on a short warranty or like European makes can and are held somewhat accountable on making a reliable vehicle.
I have no experience with an ecoboost 4 and have no desire for one, but after the very early 3.5 ecoboosts, those have been mostly ok, though not perfect. My dad's at 150k miles throws a check engine light on occasion. Not because anything is wrong with the engine itself, but because Ford cheapened the electrical system and the boost sensor likes to randomly stop working... replacing the sensor yielded the same issue, so it's either in the harness or the ECU. It happens in concert with his power locks occasionally not working. I'd take that any day over his brothers 2018 Ram 1500 that ate it's cam lobes at a pathetic 30k due to inadequate splash lubrication at low RPM, but it's still disappointing for someone used to Toyotas and Mazdas like myself.
Im in love with mine. 2003 Allroad Quattro 2.7t (pruple) at 156k'ish. Only needed 3 things in 4 yrs. Durable, clean, rides like you're sailing thru smooth butter. Was put on normal coils b4 I owned it. But it sure puts a massive smile on my face everytime I get in him & take him for a run. When the time comes, I will have the audi mechanic here redo the trans and turbo's. Go stage 1 as well. Ill never let this car go. Its worth it.
I’ve always wanted one of these cars for such a long time
I’ve got 180.000 kilometers on my German version of the allroad and except for some repairs with the air suspensions everything works fantastic
The Euro spec ones came with a v6 tdi, further adding to the mechanical reliability woes with failing fuel pumps and injector bleed off pipes that turn to either dust or a sludgy oily goo.
I’ve had a few of these, they suffer from typical age related issues of rubber gaskets leaking and occasional turbo failure, air suspension NEEDS to be converted to coilovers... but after all of that! You’ll still have a blown torque converter which will send chunks of stuff into the transmission rendering it useless. Sigh. Yet here I am building another Audi 🤦♂️
People just gotta stop driving old worn out crap because it once was and still looks expensive.
Stop trying to impress the neighbours. You're not rich.
@@alphatrion100 You're*
alphatrion100 - how does driving old crap impress the neighbors? I thought it had to be the latest greatest for the neighbor impressing crowd.
I only drive old crap but it’s because I like the cars and never, ever to impress anyone except myself.
alphatrion100 Wow. Tell us how you really feel lmao
@@thebigpicture2032
People that HAVE to have a Mercedes or Audi eventhough they are poor will NEVER become rich.
Non car people (most people) dont know its old and has 300000 miles. Those are the people they try to impress with the badge
You could buy a reliable car that never skips a beat for the same money.
But it doesnt have a euro trash badge
Like my 2010 civic type r.
Faster on a track and it always works
I have a 2001 Audi S4 (same engine) with 240,000miles with the original turbos and it’s still running like a tank.
As someone who owned a new 2001 2.7T that had much of the car repaired under warranty and plenty of time in the service bay, I loved the car…and bought a 2005 4.2 new wondering if I’d made a mistake.
The 2005 4.2 was one of the best cars I’ve ever owned; should have never sold it. Drove it 80k miles nearly trouble-free, only requiring the air bags to be replaced under warranty. I kept expecting the car to be more of a problem given my experience with my 2001 2.7T. Makes me really miss it; such a great car.
Yeah, these cars are actually quite good. I’ve owned one 7 years starting @77k. Very comfortable, not as unreliable as reported
My family bought this car in 2005 when I was 1-2 years old and we have been using it as our family car ever since! My father does a great job maintaining it which is one of the reasons why it has proven to be so reliable but we never really had any problems with the engine even if the check engine light has been on for as long as I can remember. The only major issue we had with it was the air suspension that needed fixing but its unevitable considering the car was 15 years old at the time. It would ALWAYS start despite the harsh Quebec winters and is an absolute tank in the snow plus it barely rusted after being parked outside in the driveway year round for all this time. The only downside of owning this car is that parts are kind of rare/expensive in my area and some garages weren't able to work on it but luckily there is a garage that specializes in german cars in my city so it isn't much of an issue. Amazing car overall!
I was waiting until the very end an announcement "I am going to buy it" 😂
I have a 2006 audi a6 c6 allroad and it's performing nicely, not having any problems with it. Maybe hoovie's one has seen all-roads in the world
I have the same one and i agree:
Leaks oil
Suspension has problems every now and then
But i have to say it aged really well, seats are comfortable, the back passenger's seats re comfortable, power is good and the amount of compliments i have gotten is crazy for a 2001 car.
What i would like to change is the exhaust for a more sport sound. It's way too quiet for my taste haha
In this case “Allroads” lead to a Junk Yard.
I love my Audi’s. I had the 03 2.7 A6 s line(it died, shotty mechanic) and a completely rebuilt 01 2.7 b5 S4. I will tell you that the A6 is a NIGHTMARE!! The reworked s4 is soo much easier. We have had stuff that is not needed deleted, brought down to a single turbo, and can clear out the entire engine bay in about 30 min. Would have NEVER happened with the A6. But if you love them you LOVE them.
I disagree my family has had a 2004 4.2 All Road since new. Never had any major issues.
Forrest Poulin that 4.2L was one of the most reliable engines Audi ever made.