Mark H I needed to ask u a question. I ve been taking every piece apart and cleaning them and upgradring them for people and putting it all back together for a while but for the 1st time in a long time I've come to a stop that I dont want to mess up. I took a 6500 black rocket, 6600c4 blue and grey(newest model) and a 6500c3 Catfish special at one time and I've got it all organized and ready to put back together except the main gears. The one that goes in the 6600 is a different part number. Than the other 2. But by looking at them after I've got them clean they basically all 3 look identical. So I'm trying to figure out which one goes in the 6600 cause it's the one that is different than the other 2 but again I cant spot a difference to save my life. Is there any way you can help me sir?
I'll start with the gear ratio. That would be my only concern. the gears should be the same size but may have a different count on the teeth. The 6500 Black is 5.3:1, the 6600 C4 is 6.3:1, and the 6500 C3 Catfish is 4.1:1. You will need to count the teeth in the gears to determine the difference. Also there is a gear that meshes up the the main gear and they will be different as well. The Catfish should have more teeth. The 6600 C4 should have less. The Black in the middle. Have fun!
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 yes sir the Catfish special and the black rockets are 5.3:1 and the 6600 is the 6. 3:1. So there is no actual size difference ,just the amount of teeth ocorrect? And then on my pinion gears they all have 12 teeth except for 2 of them and they only Have 10. So if I'm following you correctly then the 6600 pinion gears would be the one with 10 and the 2 main gears I would count with the lowest amount will go with those. And since all my others are 5 3 1 they should match up then considering I only have 2 6600c4s correct?
But that's only of at the time in involving my 6600's . So if one day I was cleaning my 2 black rockets and my 2 Catfish specials and wasnt involving my 2 6600 the. All of those should automatically match? Sorry for being so complicated I just wanted to always make sure everything was completely right because and other time I've cleaned or updated it's always been the same type of reels, I've never done some of each at one time like I did this time. So again I apologize for all the questions sir
purefishing.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/5500C3_34_13022_0_23_00_1292720 This is the link to the schematic. If it does not work, go to the internet and search ABU Garcia Schematics and click on the reel you are working on.
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684There is no C-clip on that schematic, because for that cog there wasn’t one on the original reel (the video shows that your modification of the cog wheel by adding a C-clip did really make a major difference in reducing resistance, by the way). Perhaps the 5500 C3 reels may have had some differences across years. Some don’t have a groove near the end of that cog post, so the C-clip might not stay in place if that groove isn’t there, is that a correct assumption? But, great video, very helpful.
Excellent video! Ill definitely be following your instruction on my abus. Ive had the 6500 c3 apart, but I've not pulled my 6500 pro rockets apart. Other than the clicker i would guess they're the same. Did you make a part 2? I was looking but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the comment. Part 2 available NOW. There is a ton of detailed information throughout the video so try not to skip around. I will get into the Pro Rockets soon. The big difference is adjustments on the spool. One thing I want to focus on is all the little things that make a difference when you work on the reels that most will people will not cover.
I have a problem. I've put back exactly the same way. I can't get the spool axle to rotate? I cant figure out why the axel isn't spinning and everything else is operating buttery. The spool axle isn't spinning the spool and anti reverse is working. When i turn the handle spool wont spin and it can be spun both directions when fully assembled.I'm stumped any ideas?
We can try to figure this out. I assumed that the caps on the spool are not overtightened. Let’s start off with which model reel you were trying to work on my next question would be is do you have the schematic that goes to that reel schematic to make sure that you have all the parts assembled correctly?
If you are a member of Facebook, I have a site for the repair and maintenance of these reels. Search out ABU Garcia maintenance and repair. Request to join but make sure that you answer all the questions and agree to the rules or you will be disapproved Once approved, I guarantee you this group can help you figure out what’s going on.
I’ve got a 6500C4 today I took it apart to clean it. When I put it all back together, I noticed that when you pushed the button to let out the line from the spool, then clicked the handle to stop and lock the spool, the reel handle all of a sudden had a lot of backwards play before it would catch and lock. In other words, you can reel up the line, and the handle would turn about a half a turn backwards before it would catch and lock. When the reel was new, you could reel up the line and there was no backwards play in the handle at all, it stayed locked. Do you know what could be causing this problem or how to fix it from having backwards play in the handle? I realize this is a C3 video, and I’m sure the C3’s maybe different from the C4’s, but I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find any helpful information. Any information or helpful tips would be appreciated! Thank you!
It has happened to me when I first started working on reels so I think I can help. There is a 95% chance that the anti reverse bearing or sometimes called a roller bearing is overloaded with grease. This bearing is on the right side where the crank shaft is located. What happens is when overloaded with grease the rollers will start to float. At some point it will catch. To clean it you will have to take the right side off and remove as much of the grease as you can. I would stick a rag through the hole and get is somewhat snug (don't jam it) and then start to rotate the rag in the direction you would wind. You should start to see grease on the rag. You only need a thin layer and I mean thin. People love to load reels up with grease and that is a bad thing. Thin layers on everything. Hope this helps.
Thank you! One of the best instructional videos I've seen (for any subject). Concise and to the point. Good job man!
Awesome look forward to upcoming additions to the series.
Thanks for comment. Part 2 is available now check it out.
There is a ton of detailed information throughout the video so try not to skip around
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 Sorry Mark but don't know what you mean by saying skip around?
Alot of people skip through portions of the video (fast forward). If you do that you will miss some of the detail that really makes a difference.
Do you think tri flow is a good oil for these reels?
Mark H I needed to ask u a question. I ve been taking every piece apart and cleaning them and upgradring them for people and putting it all back together for a while but for the 1st time in a long time I've come to a stop that I dont want to mess up. I took a 6500 black rocket, 6600c4 blue and grey(newest model) and a 6500c3 Catfish special at one time and I've got it all organized and ready to put back together except the main gears. The one that goes in the 6600 is a different part number. Than the other 2. But by looking at them after I've got them clean they basically all 3 look identical. So I'm trying to figure out which one goes in the 6600 cause it's the one that is different than the other 2 but again I cant spot a difference to save my life. Is there any way you can help me sir?
I'll start with the gear ratio. That would be my only concern. the gears should be the same size but may have a different count on the teeth. The 6500 Black is 5.3:1, the 6600 C4 is 6.3:1, and the 6500 C3 Catfish is 4.1:1. You will need to count the teeth in the gears to determine the difference. Also there is a gear that meshes up the the main gear and they will be different as well. The Catfish should have more teeth. The 6600 C4 should have less. The Black in the middle. Have fun!
Make sure you check my numbers. The gear ratio is the answer you are looking for.
Me again. I looked at the #s and the Catfish is a 5.3/1 so the Catfish and Black are the same. So match 2 of them up and the odd ball is the C4.
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 yes sir the Catfish special and the black rockets are 5.3:1 and the 6600 is the 6.
3:1. So there is no actual size difference ,just the amount of teeth ocorrect? And then on my pinion gears they all have 12 teeth except for 2 of them and they only Have 10. So if I'm following you correctly then the 6600 pinion gears would be the one with 10 and the 2 main gears I would count with the lowest amount will go with those. And since all my others are 5 3 1 they should match up then considering I only have 2 6600c4s correct?
But that's only of at the time in involving my 6600's . So if one day I was cleaning my 2 black rockets and my 2 Catfish specials and wasnt involving my 2 6600 the. All of those should automatically match? Sorry for being so complicated I just wanted to always make sure everything was completely right because and other time I've cleaned or updated it's always been the same type of reels, I've never done some of each at one time like I did this time. So again I apologize for all the questions sir
What is the part number for the 'C clip' used on the Cog wheel? You never mention it. Great vids!
purefishing.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/5500C3_34_13022_0_23_00_1292720
This is the link to the schematic. If it does not work, go to the internet and search ABU Garcia Schematics and click on the reel you are working on.
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684There is no C-clip on that schematic, because for that cog there wasn’t one on the original reel (the video shows that your modification of the cog wheel by adding a C-clip did really make a major difference in reducing resistance, by the way). Perhaps the 5500 C3 reels may have had some differences across years. Some don’t have a groove near the end of that cog post, so the C-clip might not stay in place if that groove isn’t there, is that a correct assumption? But, great video, very helpful.
Hi mark. glad you are back. Can you give the size on the C clip used on the cog wheel? Thanks
Yes sir. Which model are you working on.
Excellent video! Ill definitely be following your instruction on my abus. Ive had the 6500 c3 apart, but I've not pulled my 6500 pro rockets apart. Other than the clicker i would guess they're the same. Did you make a part 2? I was looking but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the comment. I plan to post Part 2 in the next day or 2.
Thanks for the comment. Part 2 available NOW. There is a ton of detailed information throughout the video so try not to skip around. I will get into the Pro Rockets soon. The big difference is adjustments on the spool. One thing I want to focus on is all the little things that make a difference when you work on the reels that most will people will not cover.
the website says there are 3 stainless steel ball bearings the two are in opposite sides of spool where is the 3rd located?
Sorry for the late reply the third bearing is in the handle. It’s an anti-reverse bearing.
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I have a problem. I've put back exactly the same way. I can't get the spool axle to rotate? I cant figure out why the axel isn't spinning and everything else is operating buttery. The spool axle isn't spinning the spool and anti reverse is working. When i turn the handle spool wont spin and it can be spun both directions when fully assembled.I'm stumped any ideas?
We can try to figure this out. I assumed that the caps on the spool are not overtightened. Let’s start off with which model reel you were trying to work on my next question would be is do you have the schematic that goes to that reel schematic to make sure that you have all the parts assembled correctly?
If you are a member of Facebook, I have a site for the repair and maintenance of these reels. Search out ABU Garcia maintenance and repair. Request to join but make sure that you answer all the questions and agree to the rules or you will be disapproved Once approved, I guarantee you this group can help you figure out what’s going on.
Can u make a video on how to work on an Abu Garcia 6600 bcx bait alarm system
I do not own one so I would not able to do a video on it. Are you having problems with it or do you just want to get it serviced?
@@abugarciareelrepairandmain8684 I just wanted to see how everything worked on that side
Part 2 available NOW. There is a ton of detailed information throughout the video so try not to skip around.
Good video but it did show how to replace the bait alarm on my real
I can try to help you if you want to contact me. My email is mah2856@gmail.com.
I’ve got a 6500C4 today I took it apart to clean it. When I put it all back together, I noticed that when you pushed the button to let out the line from the spool, then clicked the handle to stop and lock the spool, the reel handle all of a sudden had a lot of backwards play before it would catch and lock. In other words, you can reel up the line, and the handle would turn about a half a turn backwards before it would catch and lock. When the reel was new, you could reel up the line and there was no backwards play in the handle at all, it stayed locked. Do you know what could be causing this problem or how to fix it from having backwards play in the handle? I realize this is a C3 video, and I’m sure the C3’s maybe different from the C4’s, but I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find any helpful information. Any information or helpful tips would be appreciated! Thank you!
It has happened to me when I first started working on reels so I think I can help. There is a 95% chance that the anti reverse bearing or sometimes called a roller bearing is overloaded with grease. This bearing is on the right side where the crank shaft is located. What happens is when overloaded with grease the rollers will start to float. At some point it will catch. To clean it you will have to take the right side off and remove as much of the grease as you can. I would stick a rag through the hole and get is somewhat snug (don't jam it) and then start to rotate the rag in the direction you would wind. You should start to see grease on the rag. You only need a thin layer and I mean thin. People love to load reels up with grease and that is a bad thing. Thin layers on everything. Hope this helps.
just use a bit of braid and it pops right off. no sharp knives needed.