There's a reason that I gravitated to your channel, which showcases a relatively simple and straightforward approach to spending time in nature. It's interesting to see some of the more complicated and luxurious rigs available but I like the fact that I can spend a half hour setting up my RAV4 for camping and go on a multi-day adventure without worrying about storing and maintaining a large truck or van.
A comment from Sweden, Europe: I agree with you Tristan. While car camping in Sweden and Norway I see a lot of overland vehicles from other parts of Europe. I always think when I see them that they really have been fooled by a cunning salesman. You're not allowed to drive offroad in our countries, and the gravelroads are not so bad that you need something bigger than f.ex. my old Volvo XC70. The real adventure isn't what vehicle you drive, it is where you go. Now I'm out for a lovely atumn's day exploring! 😀
@@Caterina29it is a shame you cannot go off road in your country. You should try it if you come to the USA. We will never give up our right. Fooled? Really? So you think anyone who has something expensive has been fooled? You should consider that if they are so foolish, how did they acquire the means to purchase the vehicle they have. Maybe they just can afford to buy what they like. Keep on trucking.
@shcaskey Impractical? For who? I'm doubting they are at all impractical to those that use them for what they are intended. Me included. They are most likely my next step in travel.
@@HarryKuloh I hope to never see these behemoth's on trails. I'm mainly talking about the really tall ones. If you go in any wooded area, you are going to be knocking off branches and damaging trees. I would hope people are not that careless about nature, if they are, they shouldn't be out there. The other issue is the weight of these things. I've been on trails with steep drop offs just on the edge of the road. You don't want to be so wide that you are right on the edge which could cause the edge of the road to crumble and break off. And finally, most dirt roads are 1 lane. Imagine trying to get past one of these behemoth's on a 1 lane dirt road with a cliff on one side, and a steep uphill on the other. Most of these vehicles are just for insecure men to try to pretend they are a real man.
Years ago I spent several days hiking and bushwhacking in Chiricahua National Monument, returning to my tent each evening. A guy in a huge Unimog was next to my site. Every time I came or went he was climbing in or on his six-figure rig, playing with its features, and never left the campsite. He missed out on so much.
Totally agree with the simplicity of your view point. Also, happy to hear about your January plan. It will be nice to see a bit more of your better half. 😉
The overland marketplace is so full of over engineered stuff it really makes my head spin. Bottom line is it all adds weight, stress and complexity to an activity that's supposed to be relaxing and fun. I like the fact that you eat a peanut butter sandwich for dinner or just grab something in town-no $2500 heavy ass kitchen to set up and tear down.
I'm with you on the $$$ gear obsession. I think that especially when you're travelling, it's important to think about paring down your kit. Think about the things you bring that you seldom or never use, and leave 'em at home next time! If you have a reliable vehicle and good quality (or at least serviceable) gear, and weather appropriate clothing, you've got about all you need! By all means, upgrade when you have to and can afford to, but remember it's about the journey, the places and the people more than the stuff you bring.
Tristan, being quite a bit older than you, I was brought up tent camping and got into backpacking and day hiking later on. I enjoy watching some of the overland TH-camrs, but it seems sometimes they are vying to show the newest, biggest, most expensive rigs out there rather than just enjoying themselves out in the woods. Like you, I enjoy simple set-ups. I used to take an old Toyota station wagon up roads that many a Lexus wouldn't dare set wheels on. She had 5 speed and was great going at 2nd gear on a mountain road or on a windy canyon. I just had a tent, 2-burner Coleman, sleeping bag... extra clothes, food, and first aid. No fancy radio or cellphone, no need for GPS -- paper map or in my head... Keep it simple. Your honesty and simplicity is refreshing. Be safe!
You were one of the first car camping channels I followed because I liked your minimalist approach. I love the overlanding gear but my approach is light-weight, efficient, easy.
I was a backpacker for many years, slept in a lot of tents on a lot of cold nights. I also typically slept in the back of my vehicle the night before a backpack and often on the way home from a backpack. But as I've gotten older, I've begun to enjoy some of the creature comforts. I now have had a Four Wheel Camper on my truck for the last six years, with a built-in propane heater, fridge, bed that's always made and more. After the first year of ownership, I gave away all my backpacking gear. I still go out just as much, if not more, but I'm enjoying the extra "gear" that I now own. I think your perspective is valid for you, but there are other factors that can be at play here for others. I enjoy the expos, and yes I'm not able to afford a million dollar rig but even those give me ideas on how to customize what I have. I started simple, but things change over time.
I don't think he does a lot of backpacking anymore either. Probably because he has had 2 hip surgeries. I found that since I broke my ankle in 4 places it doesn't do well with all the backpacking weight.
Hi Tristan, My girlfriend and I ran into you at Expo West. It was nice meeting you and thanks again for the sticker. You were telling me about your new bike and your upcoming adventure in the Red Desert. I agree with you how Overlanding is becoming more about the money you spend on rigs and equipment, than the adventure you go on. I've been somewhat involved in it for over 20 years and I will be the first to admit I have spent a small fortune on equipment and rigs. These days I am finally realizing it's all about the journey. Thanks for what you do!
Your channel is what got me off the camper van idea! I did a non-permanent build in my 2020 Toyota 4Runner. This was my first year solo camping with my dog. I would never be comfortable driving a camper rig of any kind. I know what my 4Runner can do and have driven one since the 90’s. Make so much more sense so thank you Tristan for all your wonderful ideas! 💚
My dad brought a new 1964 Jeep Wagoneer we used surplus army tents to camp in. My mom made (sewed) canvas between some aluminum tubes to span inside between the windows so us kids could sleep off the floor so the seats could fold up for our parents to lay down if we chose that option. I think ppl today (many) have WAY too many options, money and too little experience with real camping to know what is expedient and what is a waste of time & $. I think the only thing you showed us that I liked was the Topper Tent that really just made a canvas "tent" of the back of an SUV. I have envisioned this for my '59 Willys Utility Wagon so I can make use of the tail gate!! 😊😂
When I first started getting into the nomad/vanlife/overland stuff I was lusting after one of those big rig things. Once I actually got out on the road though I realized you don't need all that. Same with the huge motorhome RVs. For now I love living out of my '02 4Runner. Someday in the future I might upgrade to a 12 foot box truck but for now the 4Runner gets me to places that a larger vehicle couldn't. Oh, and now I know I can skip Overland Expo East next weekend in Virginia. I considered going but for the most part I don't think I would find much there that I can't see for free on TH-cam.
I’m with you Tristan. Less high tech gear & more time climbing & checking out nature which is the purpose of going out to begin with. To me a huge rig would be for overlanding in Africa. 👍🏻🙋🏼♀️
Thanks for the spotlight in your thumbnail image! My favorite part of the Overlanding Expo is getting to know people who enjoy living an alternative lifestyle and the outdoors. There are so many cool and small businesses that offer unique solutions. Most people in the community are open and curious. Whether you travel across the US on a motorcycle, are a weekender who has a rooftop tent, live in your van, or are building a custom expedition vehicle like us, there are stories to share, lessons to learn, and friends to be made.
Crazy. We rolled up some old sheets and blankets, tied them with a piece of rope. Threw in a tarp, some pots and pans, paper plates, rags, matches, piece of chicken wire and away we went! What fun it was!
The advantage of your approach is that you spend far more time actually out doing things than messing about with equipment. This is the major reason why you are able to produce so many great videos. Keep up the good work! We were really looking forward to your take on this event, though.
You’re right on with your assessment of the “Over landing” community. Less is still best, as long as, you’re safe, eating well, sleeping well, and seeing and doing the things You are out there for. My wife and I are in Our 6th Year full time traveling in Our 2008 Chevy HHR with 338,900 miles ion it. Transportation, storage, and a bedroom. 30 miles to the gallon. Enjoy your channel. See you out there.
Yes Tristan I agree with you. I like the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) Like a lot of others I do not have thousands of dollars to spend so I make do with what I can make myself and what I can afford.
Have been to several of the expo's. Always find some great ideas, and immediately go home and try to develop a DIY version. Going there for IDEAS is the key as far as I'm concerned. This has been a fun challenge, and many of these creations have greatly enhanced our camping/ Off-Roading /overlanding experience. However, we have always found several products that solve a problem for us. Just as you mentioned in your video, traveling off-road creates much more torque and stress on every aspect of your gear, and sometimes you have to spend the money to buy something that can withstand that abuse. If someone wants to go camping once or twice a year, all they need is a Walmart tent and a couple of crates from family Dollar to hold their gear. But if you're going out on multiple trips where you're driving hundreds of miles off-road to get to your destination those things do not last, and eventually you find yourself getting tired of replacing them every trip.
Love nice vehicles, love new things, love nice things and if someone wants to spend the money that is great. These shows have great new tech and things that can make a trip more enjoyable. Everyone here has things that they don’t need. It’s our freedom that allows us to pursue our interests. These shows are very important for preserving the way of life that we enjoy. We must ensure we don’t lose our rights to public land and to drive whatever vehicle we choose.
Old explorer and adventurer here. I was always a minimalist, perhaps even Spartan, through various types of vehicles over decades. Mostly vans and SUVs, depending on what I was doing. First priority was vehicle dependability, wasn't going to be stranded. I did buy high end quality backpacking, hiking, climbing gear including clothing. Mostly was in a mountain environment.
I’m really happy with my Subaru Crosstrek as my "overland” Nomad vehicle. I lifted it but am aware of limitations. I added Thule on top/ARB awning & awning room. Have cargo rack on back. Recently bought a cage for my rear rack. Tying stuff down was hard on my joints. It will be heavier so adj to gear will be made. Living with less. Wanting less is my goal. *I also got a free tent with duct tape holding together that I leave at sites to "mark". No one stolen it yet. Twice I’ve driven up & people are there. I just apologize for "forgetting" my tent, grab & go. Life’s too short & it’s all public land so I move on. Happy Trails & Thanks for Sharing
You nailed it! I went to OLX West in Flagstaff last year and came away like you. A new appreciation for simple. Sure, some cool stuff to look at but SO Expensive!
1st Gen Sequoia at the 6:30 mark. And I really appreciate your honest sentiment at the end about the ‘regular guys’ among us. Satisfied with our gently modded rigs for weekend fun and occasional week long adventures between doing life otherwise. That is why I love your channel. I’m running a 2007 1st gen Sequoia rigged up gently like your LC and it’s also my daily driver. If I had $300,000 to spend on an overland rig, I would just buy a dozen or so $15,000 Toyota / Lexus weekend rigs and sensibly splurge the rest. YMMV.
I agree with you Tristan about the sheer excess of opulence for overlanding. I love the simplicity of my 4Runner and will attach my new front bumper, add rock sliders and a better roof rack (a aerodynamic flat one; not a basket) but I'm not interested in spending a ton of money I don't have in a bad economy to totally outfit my rig. There really is something to be said for learning to go out in the wilds and do without every conceivable add-on or gadget to just enjoy the outdoors. I love camping, hiking, backpacking, caving and experiencing the wilds and take just enough to be safe and reasonably comfortable. You sound like you do the same just wanting to explore new places and the challenges they present to conquer! Happy trails to you, Cassie and Bowser in AZ and if you ever get back up to Eastern Washington, we have the PNW Overland Rally in Plain where we live. You can go right up into the BDR or FS roads to see some breathtaking beauty right from the rally in Plain which takes place in June.
Refreshing to hear your honest review. Your comment about simplicity speaks volumes, it’s too easy to get caught up with the next big thing. Great to see all of the progression with getting out, but doesn’t have to be a infomercial & sticker shock $$$
Different strokes for different folks, as the old saying goes. The simplicity of your travel style is commendable, but some desire a higher level of comfort, hygiene and cuisine, particularly those who travel with female partners who might not be inclined to participate in such a spartan mode. A nicely equipped robust camper can bridge the gap. There are many options short of an Earth Roamer. I share great remote adventures with my mate of 52 years, and we both appreciate a hot shower, good meal and comfortable bed.
agree with you 100%, and also went to same overland expo a couple years back after a backpacking adventure in the snowy range which i totally enjoyed. The expo was overwhelming, and many of these large over the top vehicles are more for preppers for when TSHTF. Wondering how much of the snowy range you were able to explore. i had so much fun on backpacking adventure that i went back next year with my wife and stayed at that historic hotel in Centennial and took her on some epic day hikes, including one up to top of Medicine Bow Peak. Good times.
Hi Tristan. I raised a family of three kids, and I took them camping across the country several times. Having a roof top tent or a little trailer for family camping trips is wonderful. It makes life with kids easier. Now that I am retired and camp with my hubby we have a self built camper van and yes, you are correct, simpler the better! I enjoy your channel so much. Thank you for taking me with you to the expo. Seeing all the new technology is always a blast even if it isn't for everyone! We also enjoyed seeing your video on your BDR trip. My hubby is an avid motorcyclist and loves the dirt. Thanks for sharing with us easterners who would love to get out west more than life will allow.
👍👍. Rooftop compartment; 1/2” treated plywood, bottom and bottom-inside. Sandwich the treated plywood. Use large fender washers and new Ubolts, stainless. That would be more than enough to secure and it would absorb the vibration.
That's what I was thinking. A lighter weight option would be a piece of diamond plate aluminum. Plywood would be much easier to fabricate for sure. Maybe cut up an old inner tube to use as a vibration absorbing washer.
Cutting a slot for a web strap might solve the problem of a rigid connection prone to shock loading and consequent cracking. A dab of Lexel would ensure against water intrusion The container should be strong enough without reinforcement.
Yes, the direction of the overland industry is completely unsustainable. The big rigs answer the question "How do I look at nature while not being in it, and not worrying about the degradation that I cause?" Bah.
I like your style of travel and camping! Yes, those huge high tech rigs are interesting but they are just vehicles to live other places and not get close to the earth. 🦌💌👍🚙
Plastic rooftop storage container segment... I solved the weakness issue with a sheet of luan plywood. I cut it to shape and shimmed the space between the luan and the plastic at the attachment points. locations. Not only is the stress releaved from the plastic mounting points, but the weight of items is spread across a larger area increasing weight limits to the rack limit.
I have a couple of luxuries like a fridge, portable power station/solar panel (for longer trips), and newer Jeep but other than that, it’s a simple, effective 1 person capable car camping setup. Your channel is so refreshing to have little to no product pushing. Thank you!
Hi Tristan, You may consider going to Adventure Van Expo for vehicles and equipment more in line with what you do. Like Overland Expo, a lot of the rigs are very expensive but you may find things that fit in with your content. I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
I agree with your thoughts on the overlanding comminity. I do my overlanding in a 1992 Toyota 4x4 pickup. The only modifications are a Trutrac limited slip differential and upgraded shocks. The common characteristic of the roads I go on is that they are narrow which is where my older and smaller Toyota shines. I can't imagine how those behemoth multi $100k vehicles could fit on those trails!
I think the hardcore overland gear stuff is neat and ingenious, but It's kind of like analogous to the guy who carries fancy tactical gear on a simple 10 mile hike... or like, for RV people who want to look tough.
I had the same reaction that you did to Overland Expo and the obsession with over-the-top equipment that people seem to have. However, by far the best part of the Expo for me was the classes. I highly recommend you go back sometime for the classes *only*. There’s excellent information on specific destinations, radio use, medical training, vehicle repair, vehicle recovery, and many other topics from people who really know what they’re talking about.
I would look at some of those trailers as ideas on how to build out a trailer I currently have. I have a little flatbed trailer that my grandmother used to haul her atv around. I'm looking to turn it into something that I can take camping and also use to haul garbage or whatnot.
I camp in a mini-van. I had a rack on top of my vehicle and found it totally useless. .. would pick a cargo box over that for sure. Nice video ... thanks for sharing
I immediately fast-forwarded (sorry for shorting you on view time but I'll watch some ads to make up for it) through the expo footage after seeing the giant rigs. I see them and the topper campers with pseudo jacks and other aesthetics on the interstate during my commute in a major city and giggle at the weirdness of it. Mostly folks spending money so they can be seen. Your humble approach matches much more closely with my conservation/sustainability ethic. Can you imagine the gas bill on those things? Anyway, thanks for a nice video.
This was my first year going to the expos. I went to expo west and after that I was contacted by kakadu to help work their shower areas for expo pnw which was great to be able to network with like minded people that love the out doors. I love to just walk around at the expos and just check out all the rigs. I bought the weekend pass for the west and for pnw, kakadu paid for my weekend pass there as well as paid me to work there and gave my there instant hot water shower which my wife loves. I also love being able to run into the people I follow on TH-cam. I love the overland community as everyone seriously will go out of their way to help with anything. I’m glad I finally found people that are conscious about the environment and love exploring new areas. I live in Auburn CA and love going all around the Sierra Nevada.
my roof box cracked in the same places. fixed it with fiberglass and resin. better then new! I agree, expo was an overwhelming. camping on site made it fun. sorry I missed you
I’ve been to MOORE in Springfield, MO (close to me). Like you, I think all the big rig stuff and big tech stuff is cool, but not for me. But having said that; and now owning a 4Runner, I do want to equip it for overlanding and trail riding. But you are my “basecamp” you are one of the reasons I got back into this. Your approach to this hobby and the kinds of adventures you do are my guiding light. I truly owe you a big thank you and would love to buy you a cup of tea someday. Thank you. -Chris⛰️🚙
That’s the exact same decoy tent I use if I have to use a commercial campground (in the east). It actually stayed dry inside during 2 days of wind and rain!
For the most part, vehicles and camping gear are means to an end to me, exploring great outdoors. I think it's the same for many of your subscribers. Seems the other way around for trendy overlanding crowd, focusing more on enjoying the ownership of cool vehicles. Not that there's anything wrong with that, different hobbies crossing paths.
For me this encapsulates the difference between suv rving and other pursuits like overlanding or van life, the car as means to an end. I enjoy camping and driving scenic back roads, but I don't "go offroading" as an activity unto itself, for me the adventure starts at the point the road ends. Its a critical tool for access but not the main point of why I'm out there
You are practical. That's why I like you. I am poor so I just have a 21 year old legacy and we have a 18 Tucson. We are planning to get a newer outback one day but for now it's us and 3 dogs. We are always looking at how to work that setup. I have had to live between a small storage unit, a relative's porch, and a friend's relatives craft space, and my old Suba. If things keep going pear shaped I hope not to have to do it again. God bless you.
Good explanation and walkthrough. I agree about the Overlander. I owned a couple and now have a 20 yr old 4x4 rv and love it. Very “oldtec”, but simple. Plus, a lot of those Overlander companies will go out of business soon due to the costs and less boomers into it anymore.
Great video. I agree with you about the excess in the overlanding community. There is art within the simplicity of small vehicle/motorcycle camping. More stuff means more to stow and more than can breakdown. I enjoy your style the best and I would be interested in more information about small vehicle builds/expos.
I had a 1986 Ford Escort for awhile that drove really well in Utah’s back country. Had a 1970’s AMC Jeep Comanche that I used for camping in Idaho. It doesn’t take a lot.
Built many trailers, vans, and boat rigs and used them all. Nothing fancy, just functional. Lesson learned, keep it simple and light. Now I camp in my Tesla Model Y with backpacking gear. Best features, heat-pump, clean fresh air, and TH-cam. No modifications.
To fix the roof top box. All you need is two larger plates to distribute. could even beamade out of some plastic. or horse mat. you could even use some harbor freight floor mat that would distribute the abrupt bouncing.
Great video, Tristan. I agree with your summary. I doubt I would like to go to one of these events, even though I'm in an "overlanding" vehicle. I'm just a small fish in that big pond. Lol. I'm glad you and Cassie and Bowser will be spending a month in Arizona over the winter. I hope it's a relaxing time for you all. 🙂
Love to see your review on the bed platforms and how you would use them. I like you designs and would appreciate you perspective, especially for those of us just getting started.
Agree about the Expos. Too much emphasis on big expensive vehicles, systems and technology. At my age and stage I require/want more room and comforts than you but still try to keep it simple.
It’s a lot of work but you could look at getting some glass and resin from total boat and repair your topper. If you add a bunch of layers and spread it out you may be able to actually make it stronger than it was new
For your roof pod, you can repair the cracking with fiberglass cloth and resin and put on a few layers and it should last for many years. Repair cost probably around $25 dollars and that would include any future cracks. The inside truck tent caught my eye, but it would be nice if it came insulated like a yurt...until the next one and travel on !!
The aluminum motorcycle hitch carriers tend to crack at the welds if you are driving on washboard or bad roads. Direct personal experience here - stay with the one you have.
Must agree, way too many rooftop tents, trailers etc. More so than years past. Surprised we didn’t see you. We will be on our way to the Arctic Ocean, during Mountain West next year, just driving an LC200, no rooftop tent, no trailer, just doing it the way you should😃. Although, we will still be weighing 7000lbs. 😬😳. Great video👍
FOR THE RAMP ON THE REAR I WOULD INSTALL SINGLE AIR BACKS IN THE REAR AXLE TO SUPPORT THE EXTRA ADDED WEIGHT YOUR CARRYING FROM THE BIKE ON THE RAMP. DONT GO BUY MORE FOR MORE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE , FOR THE RAMP , A SINGLE RAMP TO THE END OF THEN RAMP HOLDING THE BIKE ON, A FLUSH MOUNTED DROP PIN TO HOLD THE RAMP IN PLACE, !THEN REMOVE THE RAMP , AND PLACE ON THE REAR OF THE RAMP 2 BOLTS DOWN AND YOUR GOOD TO GO?
I don't get the super expensive high tech stuff either. The entire point is that you're getting OUTSIDE, which is basically free, so whatever gets you there doesn't have to be fancy. 🤷
Hey, I enjoyed the recap of the event. I appreciate you stopping by our booth and giving us a shout out on your way to St. George in January if you’re by North Salt Lake please stop by our facility and say hi, safe travels and I will check out the rest, your videos
Really enjoyed the show. I have watched videos of people that have these rigs and sure they show how to camp at the base of a mountain and cook lobster. Your style is miles above these videos. They.are fine when you are 60 plus. I agree with you on the rtr. It is awesome and raw and real like your videos. We go to the rtr every year.
We were recently out in Montana and Wyoming, and saw a few of the larger sized overlanders. Although they are cool, I’m not sure of the feasibility of them. We tow a 23ft trailer, which limits our access to boondocking in areas like you do. But, like you, I would have used the visit to such a show as to an idea generator. Keep the video’s coming!
I follow your channel along with other TH-cam channels with built out rigs which is very nice but topping $60-80,000 is out of my pay scale. I have a Nisan Titan with camping gear in totes, a bed topper tent along with ground tents. We have a great time. I would like to get a hard shell bed topper with pop up tent but someday when other things are paid off. We attended Flagstaff expo couple years ago and very fun to look at all the vendors. Will go back to learn more of the small accessories for camping.
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There's a reason that I gravitated to your channel, which showcases a relatively simple and straightforward approach to spending time in nature. It's interesting to see some of the more complicated and luxurious rigs available but I like the fact that I can spend a half hour setting up my RAV4 for camping and go on a multi-day adventure without worrying about storing and maintaining a large truck or van.
My wife and I are in our 60s. We have a RAV4 we do exactly that so I like Tristan’s channel.
Most definitely! Simplicity is essential.
A comment from Sweden, Europe: I agree with you Tristan. While car camping in Sweden and Norway I see a lot of overland vehicles from other parts of Europe. I always think when I see them that they really have been fooled by a cunning salesman. You're not allowed to drive offroad in our countries, and the gravelroads are not so bad that you need something bigger than f.ex. my old Volvo XC70. The real adventure isn't what vehicle you drive, it is where you go.
Now I'm out for a lovely atumn's day exploring! 😀
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@@Caterina29it is a shame you cannot go off road in your country. You should try it if you come to the USA. We will never give up our right. Fooled? Really? So you think anyone who has something expensive has been fooled? You should consider that if they are so foolish, how did they acquire the means to purchase the vehicle they have. Maybe they just can afford to buy what they like. Keep on trucking.
@@ambitio9149 Oh please!
@@ILC6476 please and thank you. Great, another lib with a Subaru. Aren’t those Americans so crazy.
So many of the expensive vehicles really could not go off road anywhere. Smaller more off road builds like yours is what I prefer.
You are correct. Many are impractical, awkward to maneuver with limited access given the constrained exit/entry. Bool… but impractical.
@shcaskey Impractical? For who? I'm doubting they are at all impractical to those that use them for what they are intended. Me included. They are most likely my next step in travel.
They are great.
@onasledoverland cannot fit on the trails
@@HarryKuloh I hope to never see these behemoth's on trails. I'm mainly talking about the really tall ones. If you go in any wooded area, you are going to be knocking off branches and damaging trees. I would hope people are not that careless about nature, if they are, they shouldn't be out there. The other issue is the weight of these things. I've been on trails with steep drop offs just on the edge of the road. You don't want to be so wide that you are right on the edge which could cause the edge of the road to crumble and break off. And finally, most dirt roads are 1 lane. Imagine trying to get past one of these behemoth's on a 1 lane dirt road with a cliff on one side, and a steep uphill on the other. Most of these vehicles are just for insecure men to try to pretend they are a real man.
Years ago I spent several days hiking and bushwhacking in Chiricahua National Monument, returning to my tent each evening. A guy in a huge Unimog was next to my site. Every time I came or went he was climbing in or on his six-figure rig, playing with its features, and never left the campsite. He missed out on so much.
Chiricahua is one of the most amazing places in Arizona. Crazy someone would get so close and then just avoid experiencing the place!
Totally agree with the simplicity of your view point. Also, happy to hear about your January plan. It will be nice to see a bit more of your better half. 😉
The expo seems like overland overload, so many different options
I’m with you about less is more. Good quality products that work well is what I like
The overland marketplace is so full of over engineered stuff it really makes my head spin. Bottom line is it all adds weight, stress and complexity to an activity that's supposed to be relaxing and fun. I like the fact that you eat a peanut butter sandwich for dinner or just grab something in town-no $2500 heavy ass kitchen to set up and tear down.
The appeal of your channel is the simplicity of your setup. The six figures overland setup isn’t for me either.
Yeah, I wanted to see more of where he was camped in Wyoming. I thought that was a cool space.
This is what I came to say. But expos are fun!
I have a custom-made minivan, but actually, I don't really need some of them 😂
I'm with you on the $$$ gear obsession. I think that especially when you're travelling, it's important to think about paring down your kit. Think about the things you bring that you seldom or never use, and leave 'em at home next time! If you have a reliable vehicle and good quality (or at least serviceable) gear, and weather appropriate clothing, you've got about all you need! By all means, upgrade when you have to and can afford to, but remember it's about the journey, the places and the people more than the stuff you bring.
Tristan, being quite a bit older than you, I was brought up tent camping and got into backpacking and day hiking later on. I enjoy watching some of the overland TH-camrs, but it seems sometimes they are vying to show the newest, biggest, most expensive rigs out there rather than just enjoying themselves out in the woods. Like you, I enjoy simple set-ups. I used to take an old Toyota station wagon up roads that many a Lexus wouldn't dare set wheels on. She had 5 speed and was great going at 2nd gear on a mountain road or on a windy canyon. I just had a tent, 2-burner Coleman, sleeping bag... extra clothes, food, and first aid. No fancy radio or cellphone, no need for GPS -- paper map or in my head... Keep it simple. Your honesty and simplicity is refreshing. Be safe!
You were one of the first car camping channels I followed because I liked your minimalist approach. I love the overlanding gear but my approach is light-weight, efficient, easy.
I was a backpacker for many years, slept in a lot of tents on a lot of cold nights. I also typically slept in the back of my vehicle the night before a backpack and often on the way home from a backpack. But as I've gotten older, I've begun to enjoy some of the creature comforts. I now have had a Four Wheel Camper on my truck for the last six years, with a built-in propane heater, fridge, bed that's always made and more. After the first year of ownership, I gave away all my backpacking gear. I still go out just as much, if not more, but I'm enjoying the extra "gear" that I now own. I think your perspective is valid for you, but there are other factors that can be at play here for others. I enjoy the expos, and yes I'm not able to afford a million dollar rig but even those give me ideas on how to customize what I have. I started simple, but things change over time.
I don't think he does a lot of backpacking anymore either. Probably because he has had 2 hip surgeries. I found that since I broke my ankle in 4 places it doesn't do well with all the backpacking weight.
Hi Tristan, My girlfriend and I ran into you at Expo West. It was nice meeting you and thanks again for the sticker. You were telling me about your new bike and your upcoming adventure in the Red Desert. I agree with you how Overlanding is becoming more about the money you spend on rigs and equipment, than the adventure you go on. I've been somewhat involved in it for over 20 years and I will be the first to admit I have spent a small fortune on equipment and rigs. These days I am finally realizing it's all about the journey. Thanks for what you do!
Your channel is what got me off the camper van idea! I did a non-permanent build in my 2020 Toyota 4Runner. This was my first year solo camping with my dog. I would never be comfortable driving a camper rig of any kind. I know what my 4Runner can do and have driven one since the 90’s. Make so much more sense so thank you Tristan for all your wonderful ideas! 💚
My dad brought a new 1964 Jeep Wagoneer we used surplus army tents to camp in. My mom made (sewed) canvas between some aluminum tubes to span inside between the windows so us kids could sleep off the floor so the seats could fold up for our parents to lay down if we chose that option. I think ppl today (many) have WAY too many options, money and too little experience with real camping to know what is expedient and what is a waste of time & $. I think the only thing you showed us that I liked was the Topper Tent that really just made a canvas "tent" of the back of an SUV. I have envisioned this for my '59 Willys Utility Wagon so I can make use of the tail gate!! 😊😂
When I first started getting into the nomad/vanlife/overland stuff I was lusting after one of those big rig things. Once I actually got out on the road though I realized you don't need all that. Same with the huge motorhome RVs. For now I love living out of my '02 4Runner. Someday in the future I might upgrade to a 12 foot box truck but for now the 4Runner gets me to places that a larger vehicle couldn't. Oh, and now I know I can skip Overland Expo East next weekend in Virginia. I considered going but for the most part I don't think I would find much there that I can't see for free on TH-cam.
I’m with you Tristan. Less high tech gear & more time climbing & checking out nature which is the purpose of going out to begin with. To me a huge rig would be for overlanding in Africa. 👍🏻🙋🏼♀️
I appreciate your approach to being outside. Thanks
A fully hard sided 4x4 van would be nice for grizzly country and bad weather.
Thanks for the spotlight in your thumbnail image!
My favorite part of the Overlanding Expo is getting to know people who enjoy living an alternative lifestyle and the outdoors. There are so many cool and small businesses that offer unique solutions.
Most people in the community are open and curious. Whether you travel across the US on a motorcycle, are a weekender who has a rooftop tent, live in your van, or are building a custom expedition vehicle like us, there are stories to share, lessons to learn, and friends to be made.
Crazy. We rolled up some old sheets and blankets, tied them with a piece of rope. Threw in a tarp, some pots and pans, paper plates, rags, matches, piece of chicken wire and away we went! What fun it was!
The advantage of your approach is that you spend far more time actually out doing things than messing about with equipment. This is the major reason why you are able to produce so many great videos. Keep up the good work!
We were really looking forward to your take on this event, though.
You’re right on with your assessment of the “Over landing” community. Less is still best, as long as, you’re safe, eating well, sleeping well, and seeing and doing the things You are out there for. My wife and I are in Our 6th Year full time traveling in Our 2008 Chevy HHR with 338,900 miles ion it. Transportation, storage, and a bedroom. 30 miles to the gallon. Enjoy your channel. See you out there.
We have the same philosophy when it comes to overlanding, I enjoy your channel, keep the videos coming, big fan.
Yes Tristan I agree with you. I like the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) Like a lot of others I do not have thousands of dollars to spend so I make do with what I can make myself and what I can afford.
Have been to several of the expo's. Always find some great ideas, and immediately go home and try to develop a DIY version. Going there for IDEAS is the key as far as I'm concerned.
This has been a fun challenge, and many of these creations have greatly enhanced our camping/ Off-Roading /overlanding experience.
However, we have always found several products that solve a problem for us. Just as you mentioned in your video, traveling off-road creates much more torque and stress on every aspect of your gear, and sometimes you have to spend the money to buy something that can withstand that abuse.
If someone wants to go camping once or twice a year, all they need is a Walmart tent and a couple of crates from family Dollar to hold their gear. But if you're going out on multiple trips where you're driving hundreds of miles off-road to get to your destination those things do not last, and eventually you find yourself getting tired of replacing them every trip.
Simplicity rules. Thanks for the overview. 🙂
yes just camp out of the rig you own , fold down the back seat of ones wagon /suv
Thank you for keeping it real, 99% of us can't afford that "fancy" stuff!! It's supposed to be about getting out and enjoying nature.
Love nice vehicles, love new things, love nice things and if someone wants to spend the money that is great. These shows have great new tech and things that can make a trip more enjoyable. Everyone here has things that they don’t need. It’s our freedom that allows us to pursue our interests. These shows are very important for preserving the way of life that we enjoy. We must ensure we don’t lose our rights to public land and to drive whatever vehicle we choose.
Old explorer and adventurer here. I was always a minimalist, perhaps even Spartan, through various types of vehicles over decades. Mostly vans and SUVs, depending on what I was doing. First priority was vehicle dependability, wasn't going to be stranded. I did buy high end quality backpacking, hiking, climbing gear including clothing. Mostly was in a mountain environment.
I’m really happy with my Subaru Crosstrek as my "overland” Nomad vehicle. I lifted it but am aware of limitations. I added Thule on top/ARB awning & awning room. Have cargo rack on back. Recently bought a cage for my rear rack. Tying stuff down was hard on my joints. It will be heavier so adj to gear will be made. Living with less. Wanting less is my goal. *I also got a free tent with duct tape holding together that I leave at sites to "mark". No one stolen it yet. Twice I’ve driven up & people are there. I just apologize for "forgetting" my tent, grab & go. Life’s too short & it’s all public land so I move on. Happy Trails & Thanks for Sharing
You nailed it! I went to OLX West in Flagstaff last year and came away like you. A new appreciation for simple. Sure, some cool stuff to look at but SO Expensive!
1st Gen Sequoia at the 6:30 mark. And I really appreciate your honest sentiment at the end about the ‘regular guys’ among us. Satisfied with our gently modded rigs for weekend fun and occasional week long adventures between doing life otherwise. That is why I love your channel. I’m running a 2007 1st gen Sequoia rigged up gently like your LC and it’s also my daily driver. If I had $300,000 to spend on an overland rig, I would just buy a dozen or so $15,000 Toyota / Lexus weekend rigs and sensibly splurge the rest. YMMV.
Love my first gen sequoia. I have an 03.
I agree with you Tristan about the sheer excess of opulence for overlanding. I love the simplicity of my 4Runner and will attach my new front bumper, add rock sliders and a better roof rack (a aerodynamic flat one; not a basket) but I'm not interested in spending a ton of money I don't have in a bad economy to totally outfit my rig. There really is something to be said for learning to go out in the wilds and do without every conceivable add-on or gadget to just enjoy the outdoors. I love camping, hiking, backpacking, caving and experiencing the wilds and take just enough to be safe and reasonably comfortable. You sound like you do the same just wanting to explore new places and the challenges they present to conquer! Happy trails to you, Cassie and Bowser in AZ and if you ever get back up to Eastern Washington, we have the PNW Overland Rally in Plain where we live. You can go right up into the BDR or FS roads to see some breathtaking beauty right from the rally in Plain which takes place in June.
All of it just seems so expensive. Loved the moose. ❤
Refreshing to hear your honest review. Your comment about simplicity speaks volumes, it’s too easy to get caught up with the next big thing. Great to see all of the progression with getting out, but doesn’t have to be a infomercial & sticker shock $$$
Different strokes for different folks, as the old saying goes. The simplicity of your travel style is commendable, but some desire a higher level of comfort, hygiene and cuisine, particularly those who travel with female partners who might not be inclined to participate in such a spartan mode. A nicely equipped robust camper can bridge the gap. There are many options short of an Earth Roamer. I share great remote adventures with my mate of 52 years, and we both appreciate a hot shower, good meal and comfortable bed.
agree with you 100%, and also went to same overland expo a couple years back after a backpacking adventure in the snowy range which i totally enjoyed. The expo was overwhelming, and many of these large over the top vehicles are more for preppers for when TSHTF. Wondering how much of the snowy range you were able to explore. i had so much fun on backpacking adventure that i went back next year with my wife and stayed at that historic hotel in Centennial and took her on some epic day hikes, including one up to top of Medicine Bow Peak. Good times.
Hi Tristan. I raised a family of three kids, and I took them camping across the country several times. Having a roof top tent or a little trailer for family camping trips is wonderful. It makes life with kids easier. Now that I am retired and camp with my hubby we have a self built camper van and yes, you are correct, simpler the better! I enjoy your channel so much. Thank you for taking me with you to the expo. Seeing all the new technology is always a blast even if it isn't for everyone! We also enjoyed seeing your video on your BDR trip. My hubby is an avid motorcyclist and loves the dirt. Thanks for sharing with us easterners who would love to get out west more than life will allow.
You're so right in that simpler is more enjoyable.
👍👍. Rooftop compartment; 1/2” treated plywood, bottom and bottom-inside. Sandwich the treated plywood. Use large fender washers and new Ubolts, stainless. That would be more than enough to secure and it would absorb the vibration.
That's what I was thinking. A lighter weight option would be a piece of diamond plate aluminum. Plywood would be much easier to fabricate for sure. Maybe cut up an old inner tube to use as a vibration absorbing washer.
You can also plastic weld the cracks.
Cutting a slot for a web strap might solve the problem of a rigid connection prone to shock loading and consequent cracking. A dab of Lexel would ensure against water intrusion The container should be strong enough without reinforcement.
Yes, the direction of the overland industry is completely unsustainable. The big rigs answer the question "How do I look at nature while not being in it, and not worrying about the degradation that I cause?" Bah.
I like your style of travel and camping! Yes, those huge high tech rigs are interesting but they are just vehicles to live other places and not get close to the earth. 🦌💌👍🚙
Plastic rooftop storage container segment...
I solved the weakness issue with a sheet of luan plywood. I cut it to shape and shimmed the space between the luan and the plastic at the attachment points. locations.
Not only is the stress releaved from the plastic mounting points, but the weight of items is spread across a larger area increasing weight limits to the rack limit.
I have a couple of luxuries like a fridge, portable power station/solar panel (for longer trips), and newer Jeep but other than that, it’s a simple, effective 1 person capable car camping setup.
Your channel is so refreshing to have little to no product pushing. Thank you!
Hi Tristan, You may consider going to Adventure Van Expo for vehicles and equipment more in line with what you do. Like Overland Expo, a lot of the rigs are very expensive but you may find things that fit in with your content.
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
I agree with your thoughts on the overlanding comminity. I do my overlanding in a 1992 Toyota 4x4 pickup. The only modifications are a Trutrac limited slip differential and upgraded shocks. The common characteristic of the roads I go on is that they are narrow which is where my older and smaller Toyota shines. I can't imagine how those behemoth multi $100k vehicles could fit on those trails!
I think the hardcore overland gear stuff is neat and ingenious, but It's kind of like analogous to the guy who carries fancy tactical gear on a simple 10 mile hike... or like, for RV people who want to look tough.
I have those roller cam straps. I just drove 9500 miles using them to strap down bags to my roof. They did great.
I had the same reaction that you did to Overland Expo and the obsession with over-the-top equipment that people seem to have. However, by far the best part of the Expo for me was the classes. I highly recommend you go back sometime for the classes *only*. There’s excellent information on specific destinations, radio use, medical training, vehicle repair, vehicle recovery, and many other topics from people who really know what they’re talking about.
I remember you buying the Walmart tent years ago lol
Thank You Tristan, wonderful commentary.❤
Manufacturers usually send their most elaborate , expensive items to these shows . Nice tour . Oh , and those potty gloves , ridiculous !!
Throughly enjoyed your style & thoughts & your sights, you pick out.
Thank you for sharing.
I would look at some of those trailers as ideas on how to build out a trailer I currently have. I have a little flatbed trailer that my grandmother used to haul her atv around. I'm looking to turn it into something that I can take camping and also use to haul garbage or whatnot.
I camp in a mini-van. I had a rack on top of my vehicle and found it totally useless. .. would pick a cargo box over that for sure. Nice video ... thanks for sharing
OMGoodness the shot of the rows and rows of exhibits at the fairgrounds is so impressive.
I immediately fast-forwarded (sorry for shorting you on view time but I'll watch some ads to make up for it) through the expo footage after seeing the giant rigs. I see them and the topper campers with pseudo jacks and other aesthetics on the interstate during my commute in a major city and giggle at the weirdness of it. Mostly folks spending money so they can be seen. Your humble approach matches much more closely with my conservation/sustainability ethic. Can you imagine the gas bill on those things? Anyway, thanks for a nice video.
This was my first year going to the expos. I went to expo west and after that I was contacted by kakadu to help work their shower areas for expo pnw which was great to be able to network with like minded people that love the out doors. I love to just walk around at the expos and just check out all the rigs. I bought the weekend pass for the west and for pnw, kakadu paid for my weekend pass there as well as paid me to work there and gave my there instant hot water shower which my wife loves. I also love being able to run into the people I follow on TH-cam. I love the overland community as everyone seriously will go out of their way to help with anything. I’m glad I finally found people that are conscious about the environment and love exploring new areas. I live in Auburn CA and love going all around the Sierra Nevada.
my roof box cracked in the same places. fixed it with fiberglass and resin. better then new! I agree, expo was an overwhelming. camping on site made it fun. sorry I missed you
I’ve been to MOORE in Springfield, MO (close to me). Like you, I think all the big rig stuff and big tech stuff is cool, but not for me. But having said that; and now owning a 4Runner, I do want to equip it for overlanding and trail riding. But you are my “basecamp” you are one of the reasons I got back into this. Your approach to this hobby and the kinds of adventures you do are my guiding light. I truly owe you a big thank you and would love to buy you a cup of tea someday. Thank you. -Chris⛰️🚙
Biggest thing about this episode is that you said Gyro the right way. Go Tristan. 🎉
Tristan.... you might like... waterproof barrel bags on top of your rig they are like GI duffel bags
I pre-ordered the Hele Box duo just last week! I look forward to using it in my Ford Expedition.
That’s the exact same decoy tent I use if I have to use a commercial campground (in the east). It actually stayed dry inside during 2 days of wind and rain!
Same here. It's also great for storing firewood, dirty laundry or anything else that I don't want to bring into the car while I'm camping.
For the most part, vehicles and camping gear are means to an end to me, exploring great outdoors. I think it's the same for many of your subscribers. Seems the other way around for trendy overlanding crowd, focusing more on enjoying the ownership of cool vehicles. Not that there's anything wrong with that, different hobbies crossing paths.
For me this encapsulates the difference between suv rving and other pursuits like overlanding or van life, the car as means to an end. I enjoy camping and driving scenic back roads, but I don't "go offroading" as an activity unto itself, for me the adventure starts at the point the road ends. Its a critical tool for access but not the main point of why I'm out there
I love this guys common sense.
You are practical. That's why I like you. I am poor so I just have a 21 year old legacy and we have a 18 Tucson. We are planning to get a newer outback one day but for now it's us and 3 dogs. We are always looking at how to work that setup. I have had to live between a small storage unit, a relative's porch, and a friend's relatives craft space, and my old Suba. If things keep going pear shaped I hope not to have to do it again. God bless you.
Thankyou very much for this information. Las Vegas in the winter is much better. Much cooler.
Good explanation and walkthrough. I agree about the Overlander. I owned a couple and now have a 20 yr old 4x4 rv and love it. Very “oldtec”, but simple. Plus, a lot of those Overlander companies will go out of business soon due to the costs and less boomers into it anymore.
So glad your wife said that about the glove thing because that's exactly what I was thinking :)
Great video. I agree with you about the excess in the overlanding community. There is art within the simplicity of small vehicle/motorcycle camping. More stuff means more to stow and more than can breakdown. I enjoy your style the best and I would be interested in more information about small vehicle builds/expos.
Always a wonderfully interesting show. Tks.
I had a 1986 Ford Escort for awhile that drove really well in Utah’s back country. Had a 1970’s AMC Jeep Comanche that I used for camping in Idaho. It doesn’t take a lot.
Built many trailers, vans, and boat rigs and used them all. Nothing fancy, just functional.
Lesson learned, keep it simple and light.
Now I camp in my Tesla Model Y with backpacking gear. Best features, heat-pump, clean fresh air, and TH-cam. No modifications.
Love this video! Love going to see new things and get ideas. I'm all about stealth camping in my SUV.
To fix the roof top box. All you need is two larger plates to distribute. could even beamade out of some plastic. or horse mat. you could even use some harbor freight floor mat that would distribute the abrupt bouncing.
It is wise to know BOTH your needs and wants. It makes being content a breeze.
Great video, Tristan. I agree with your summary. I doubt I would like to go to one of these events, even though I'm in an "overlanding" vehicle. I'm just a small fish in that big pond. Lol. I'm glad you and Cassie and Bowser will be spending a month in Arizona over the winter. I hope it's a relaxing time for you all. 🙂
Love to see your review on the bed platforms and how you would use them. I like you designs and would appreciate you perspective, especially for those of us just getting started.
Agree about the Expos. Too much emphasis on big expensive vehicles, systems and technology. At my age and stage I require/want more room and comforts than you but still try to keep it simple.
It’s a lot of work but you could look at getting some glass and resin from total boat and repair your topper. If you add a bunch of layers and spread it out you may be able to actually make it stronger than it was new
Tristan, I was very intrigued by the rooftop storage box with the solar panels on top ! Very cleaver ! 👍 😂 👍
The first thought I had when said you were going to the expo was that you were teaching a class for them!
Yeah I also have use my oldest "throwdown" tent as a placeholder.
For your roof pod, you can repair the cracking with fiberglass cloth and resin and put on a few layers and it should last for many years. Repair cost probably around $25 dollars and that would include any future cracks. The inside truck tent caught my eye, but it would be nice if it came insulated like a yurt...until the next one and travel on !!
I saw Hele when they were start up. Looked like a cool well done product !
The aluminum motorcycle hitch carriers tend to crack at the welds if you are driving on washboard or bad roads. Direct personal experience here - stay with the one you have.
Must agree, way too many rooftop tents, trailers etc. More so than years past. Surprised we didn’t see you. We will be on our way to the Arctic Ocean, during Mountain West next year, just driving an LC200, no rooftop tent, no trailer, just doing it the way you should😃. Although, we will still be weighing 7000lbs. 😬😳. Great video👍
Thats exactly where i was going to go, the medicine-bow national forest, i just love Wyoming.
FOR THE RAMP ON THE REAR I WOULD INSTALL SINGLE AIR BACKS IN THE REAR AXLE TO SUPPORT THE EXTRA ADDED WEIGHT YOUR CARRYING FROM THE BIKE ON THE RAMP. DONT GO BUY MORE FOR MORE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE , FOR THE RAMP , A SINGLE RAMP TO THE END OF THEN RAMP HOLDING THE BIKE ON, A FLUSH MOUNTED DROP PIN TO HOLD THE RAMP IN PLACE, !THEN REMOVE THE RAMP , AND PLACE ON THE REAR OF THE RAMP 2 BOLTS DOWN AND YOUR GOOD TO GO?
I feel the same way about anything with the "overlanding" label..
I don't get the super expensive high tech stuff either. The entire point is that you're getting OUTSIDE, which is basically free, so whatever gets you there doesn't have to be fancy. 🤷
Hey, I enjoyed the recap of the event. I appreciate you stopping by our booth and giving us a shout out on your way to St. George in January if you’re by North Salt Lake please stop by our facility and say hi, safe travels and I will check out the rest, your videos
Overland expo has moved a long way from where they began. Nearly all of the original overlanders have moved on , including me .
Great hearing from you….. I’ll look for you down along the river !
Really enjoyed the show. I have watched videos of people that have these rigs and sure they show how to camp at the base of a mountain and cook lobster. Your style is miles above these videos. They.are fine when you are 60 plus. I agree with you on the rtr. It is awesome and raw and real like your videos. We go to the rtr every year.
We were recently out in Montana and Wyoming, and saw a few of the larger sized overlanders. Although they are cool, I’m not sure of the feasibility of them. We tow a 23ft trailer, which limits our access to boondocking in areas like you do. But, like you, I would have used the visit to such a show as to an idea generator. Keep the video’s coming!
I follow your channel along with other TH-cam channels with built out rigs which is very nice but topping $60-80,000 is out of my pay scale.
I have a Nisan Titan with camping gear in totes, a bed topper tent along with ground tents. We have a great time. I would like to get a hard shell bed topper with pop up tent but someday when other things are paid off.
We attended Flagstaff expo couple years ago and very fun to look at all the vendors. Will go back to learn more of the small accessories for camping.
I like the pee glove wipes. We went for a hike today and saw toilet paper and wipes alongside the road in 😢