Thank you for Motown Records Mr. Berry Gordy ❤. My late parents had all of the Motown records from every artist on your label. Thank you for the WONDERFUL Artist and the MUSIC. A Wonderful Legend!!
@@sharontolan2781 I couldn’t imagine growing up not knowing my REAL daddy was my mother’s boss. Could you please? He knew about Rhonda and he knew that was his damn seed. Shame on them both.
@@ReasonablySpeaking9808 I agree with you 100%. Please tune in to ashleysaysso on Diana Ross. Ashley is pretty legit and does her research on many motown singers among others.
He was never in love with her. You need to understand black male pathology. She risked ruining her career having his child out of wedlock. He refused to marry her when he could have done so. He was 17 years older than she. Gordy was her manipulator. It was just a power & ego trip. He loved controlling her. Many of you are gullible & weak.
He never loved her. Let's hear Hazel's side of the story. Let's also hear from Berry's other wives. Notice how he drops Michael & Diana' s names because they were the biggest stars and he wants to link his name to them. If a man loves you he will claim you and give your child his name. He will claim you & his child and provide for both.
Yes the sun rise and sets on her and she was strictly for herself.!! Always was and you would think she stared the girl group but she didn’t she was the last one to come in the group .!! Mrs.Flo Ballard got this group together and help make everyone reach stardom with the help of Mr Barry Gordy Oh by the way Mary found Diana Ross and brought her in.!!
Fact is immediately having the child Diana knew she wasn’t a mixed child and unless she had been sleeping with many black men which I doubt than she new immediately the child was Berry Gordy it’s just that Berry was married so she kept his secret until he got divorced. Which is part of the reason he loves Diana so much. She didn’t demand anything of Berry but that he made her a star which he did. Diana’s husband was a white man so they new immediately Rhonda was not a mixed race child. Like I said they just kept his secret.
@tori byrd: He was not married at the time; Ross and Gordy dated from 1965 - 1970, it was thought that the couple would marry. It was said, upon the discovery of her pregnancy, she went to tell him. However, he had begun a relationship with someone else. Angry, she rebounded with the handsome schoolteacher, Robert Ellis Silberstein. She'd known him only a few months. They don't tell us everything; I think he knew about the baby very early on. She simply had MOVED ON, knowing marriage to Gordy was out of the question.
Thank you Mr Gordy for your Accomplishments to our Race and bring out the talent of these wonderful Artists , a Giving of a beautiful Legend Ms Diva and exciting Diana Ross
We realized..lol lol Diana knew whose baby it was. You were probably the only black rich executive that she knew at the time. .. so of course as Maury would say “YOU are the FATHER”.
this is all BULL> Diana and bery knew that she was knocked up and that this arrangement with the whiteman was just that. an arrangement. all parties knew the deal, just as with the kartrashians who front for gay athletes on the downlow. this was all paid and arranged for. even mary and Cindy knew the score
Diana & her 1st husband, Traci & Chudney's father KNEW that she was already pregnant by Berry b4 they married. It was never a surprise nor secret to Diane from the moment she found out she was pregnant to the time Rhonda was that 13 year old girl they finally told that "Uncle B.B." was in fact her father. Plus, Rhonda looks MOST LIKE Berry than any of his children. Finally, Diane has publicly stated that her ex-husband, Arne Naess (the father of her 2 sons), was the 1 TRUE LOVE OF HER LIFE, THE 1 SHE WANTED TO GROW OLD WITH. Interestingly enuff, for all the ugly they did to so many, they both ended up growing old & alone & both egomaniacs never saw saw it coming, but it's exactly what they both DESERVED, 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾good ole karma!!!!!
Berry was always there he was in her life She had entrusted him practically with her entire life. Berry will never turn his back on her, Berry was Devoted to her
It's despicable how childish and selfish she was. They had other females singers at Motown that she felt threatened by because she was not a good singer. She would complain to Gordy to have them removed. Gladys Knight stated that she and the Pips were on tour with supremes and was out shinning Diana. Diana calls Berry Gody and has them taken off the tour. In another incident, Diana ross wears another artist's dress so that they can't perform. The artist complains to Berry Gordy and he says to leave Diana alone. The other performers were told to not outperform Diana. Diana was not the lead singer of the supremes until she started an affair with Gordy and a songwriter at Motown. She performed in three movies for Gordy, Mahogany, lady sings the blues and the wiz due to an affair with Gordy. Gordy and ross even had a child together. She has as much talent as Marilyn Monroe, But both slept their way to fame. No Respect!
She was made the lead by Berry because she had a commercial voice. He wanted a light sound not a churchy one. If you listen to her in Lady Sings The Blues you actually hear that she really can sings.
@@tonyamontgomery2733 You can't tell me that sleeping with the boss did not enhance her career. They had more talented female singers at motown than Diana Ross. Diana Ross wasn't even the best singer in the supremes. But you're right, commercially she was better suited than the others.
"Word Salad". His main attraction to Diana was business. He was mostly in love with her drive and work ethic. He didn't marry her because he didn't want to. He married a no name, no career having Eurasion with no problem. The successful black man's ideal woman is not usually black like him.🤷🏾♀
@@orane3549 it's difficult to measure sadness, sorrows, grief and etc. Because everyone doesn't process information the same due to other factors such as what type of relationship between the deceased and the ones who's grieving. In this case these people was Performers/Entertainers. We admired them and listen to their music. We don't know them personally.
@@orane3549 What happened to Florence Ballard's life and career ending the way it did was really tragic. She did initiate the group & came up with the name, The Supremes. She was 💔 because of the way she was treated after they became famous, that's why she started drinking so much. I can totally understand her why... She was trying to numb her pain but it wasn't the way she should have done it, at the time she just probably didn't know what else to do 😭
Not true...He was selling the company he already new that...when it was announced that Ross would leave Motown there was a bidding war...the resulting contract is the basis of her wealth...her money was badly mismanaged at Motown so she left...also knowing that Barry wasn't going to remain...
Toxic BW your attitude has died out. You have no understanding of human relationships and can't relate to people. Diana Ross made a LOT of $$$ for Barry Gordy and Smokey Robinson. They owned the songs, the publishing and take all the royalties. The music industry pimps artists. Its a pimp/prostitute relationship. Smart artists stay drug free, they learn the business, seek to own their assets, they tour a lot, marry well and invest well.
What you are saying can't be true because Barbara Walters would have confronted him in the interview about it and he knows that and he wouldn't have even done the interview with her.
He was divorced from Raynoma Gordy Singleton in 64. He did have a mistress named Margaret who had become a baby mama. So to his credit he was a cheater but not married when he courted Diana.
He’s so manipulative of the English language He knows what to say and how to say Diana Ross couldn’t get married because they were already married.That’s the truth
*_They could not get Married even though Berry was Single, because Diana was already Married_*_ to her 1st Husband._ When he & Diana were together 1965-1970 Berry was a Divorced man _(2nd wife)._ *Another reason why she did not marry him* was probably because when he was married to his 2nd wife Berry had 2 mistresses and a child by both of them so *_he had 6kids._* He probably would've done the same to her.
He is lying,I don't believe for one second he didn't know she was pregnant with his child,they hid it like things were done back in that era.he knew Rhonda wasn't that white man's child that Diana married..go figure..
@@1goldbaby That's why Diana Ross married Tracie Ellis Ross daddy so fast. The two men were friends. Barry Gordy wanted the people to think Rhonda was not his. How could they hide that. Rhonda was not his. Rhonda said that she knew she was different from her other two sisters with the complexion and hair. Notice, how Tracy Ellis Ross act like she the boss when they family is on shows together.
@@lindataylor5704 yep!!! Tracy is ALWAYS trying to be out front when it comes to Diana!!! I would love to hear from Rhonda how she felt growing up with her and Chudney.I don't think Chudney wants to be black nor does that oldest boy she had by that billionaire.Anyhoo,it is so sad that they have identity issues..I hope they UNDERSTAND that if it wasn't for their mother,THEY WOULDN'T BE NOTHING!!!
To this day he's still crazy about his Diana. When he talks about her his face lights up. That's an unbreakable love that no one or nothing can come between. It's sometimes hard to understand but very real!!! ❤❤❤
Because it was all about business, not love. Diana admitted on PBS, that she wasn't in love with Berry Gordy, but she had long nails though..., LOL !!!
@@Michelle-jz8vl She wanted Berry He was only interested in the money. Read Raynoma Gordy Singleton's Book. She was crazy for Berry. He turned her down. Silberstein was a pawn to cover up the live child. Arne Naes divorced her and had a baby. They were too different people. Without the Supremes and Berry Gordy there would be no Diana. That's it that's all!
@@pamelasmart4968 no way could that white man cover up Rhonda !! She may have thought Rhonda was a pawn for her success . Not sure but she knew it wasn’t a bad idea to have a baby with a rich man. All of her children’s fathers are well off or were successful men regardless of color ..
He didn't marry Diana because he was already married. Eddie K was the great love of Diana's life and she was really broken when he married someone else.
@Mamadou Aziza: Miss Ross DID want to marry Mr. Gordy. He didn't want to marry her. And rumor has it that he had embarked on an affair when she went to notify him of her pregnancy.
@@michellekirkendall818 Not true. She said in a recent interview she never loved him the way she loved her husbands and she was not interested in marrying him.. Her words. Yes also told Barbra Walters this too.
@@mamadouaziza2536 If you read her memoirs, "Secrets Of A Sparrow" (1993) she explains how she became confused by his actions, it seemed he loved her, then he became controlling....he said himself that she asked him about getting married. He said by doing that, "he would have to kiss her ass" in a kidding manner. I do think she loved him MORE than he loved her.
MISS ROSS IS TRULY THE EPITOME OF LONGEVITY ,& CLASS,IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. !!!! DIANA ROSS ; SURE LEAVES THESE SO CALL SINGER STARS OF TODAY FOR DEAD PERIOD ! NO LIP SINKING TO HER SONGS , ALL SONGS SUNG LIVE !!!💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
It's fascinating that this could still be of any interest to people 50 years later. But, as pointed out, he was married part of the time and she was his "star." A "star" who was sleeping with the boss in 1971 (and then subsequently becoming pregnant with his child) would not have been looked on favorably. Not even if it was Diana Ross (or any other woman, for that matter, but especially Black women). Those were the morals of that time. And they were pretty puritanical.
Yes unlike now where everybody sleeps with anyone and everyone for no reason other than lust . No integrity.. wreaking havoc and heartache…I would rather be a prude any day
Older men seduce young girls & women all the time. When they make a man rich he manipulates the relationship for gain. You are stupid. He was going with a teenager. He was manipulating her.
MR GORDY AND MISS ROSS ROCK MY MUSIC WORLD. YOU BET AFTER THEIR MUSICAL INFLUENTIAL IMPACT UPON MY LIFE.. I AM FULL CIRCLE. I HOLD MY OWN QUITE WELL MUSICALLY..THANKS BERRY & DIANA.
She was not interested in Marrying him. He was twice Divorced with 6kids. Two of those kids he had with 2 women that he cheated on his 2nd wife with. His Track Record wasn't too impressive. She gained Fame, Money, and a Legacy even before leaving Motown for a lucrative *RCA Records $20Million Dollar* 7yr recording contract deal. *_How did she get fooled?_* You think she wanted to marry him. Berry Gordy was a Single man when Diana found out she was 2mos pregnant and married her 1st Husband instead of Berry Gordy. *_So how did she get fooled again?_*
@@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496 she still wanted to marry him, I'll believe it till I die! My privallge , you can believe anything you want, this is America.
She didn't want him and in fact she actually hated him during the Mahogany era.. She has publicly stated she never loved him like she loved her husbands..
@@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496 Florence was very bitter about how Diane was able to manipulate Berry and get her way. Florence didn't know how to play the game. Then she let the bottle get the best of her.
@@sandraatkins2539 The story is old enough at this time to have traction. I was a "Detroit Sound" fan since the age of nine in 1963. It is not opinion. Berry Gordy, Jr came from a family of business owners, record producers (sisters Gwen and Anna). The early Motown was made up of Berry's family, 8 siblings! Gordy himself wrote a book called "To Be Loved" (1996) also, the money amount is mentioned in "Berry, Me and Motown" (1990) by Raynoma Gordy Singleton, who Berry married in the late fifties. Any one alive during the early days, knows about the $800.00 from family members....they had the money to give! This is not opinion, it is fact....people who weren't alive at the time are spreading misinformation.
Berry and Diana Should just get married...just for genuine mutual, affection and companionship. Damn all the un-realistic; willy-nelly, expectations (LOVE) in the minds of the young...just two people who (RESPECTFUL) know each other inside and out. Neither Diana nor Berry need anyone's approval about "NOTHING"! I would love to know they both were one another safe place..." TOGETHER ". "The only (TRUE) relationship's either had in their entire lives...we're with one another"!
People still haven’t figured out why he favored Diana over everyone else. It wasn’t just her voice. She was a hustler. A ride or die chick with a reputation in Detroit. She told Berry, “If you think it, I’ll do it.” And it paid off for him, whether it be singing, acting, sex, or anything else.
Dag Babs!! Why didn’t you marry Edward Brooke? Of course at time of this interview, it wasn’t known that you were creeping with Edward Brooke which you revealed later in a book you wrote.
Berry Gordy was a married man. He is Hazel Gordy father..the lady who married Jermaine Jackson. He wasn't leaving his wife. Diane had him fire Florence take Gladys off the tour and give her the Wiz role..that was Stephanie Mills role..she did it on Broadway. Ross is low down and dirty..most project kids are like that..survial skills cut throat. That Billionaire who is the Father of Evan and Ross booted her mean butt out.
Thank you Curtis for that l was getting ready to say that too. She is one beautiful 77 year old woman.. A woman looking like that is doing right. Something right. Thanks Curtiss for talking me through that l was in an earthquake the signs were coming down saying remove to dismiss. Everything was closing down. She can not help it because she is young and beautiful at 77 years old and that voice is still there Thank you curtis for saying that.
She took care of her self by changing her ways. growing up, She was a child. l never seen her act like that l saw 2 jealous women Got up because she went higher and went to Hollywood and made it. But she Is living right God is with her. To sing like that.
They said they did not want to get deeper involved and they knew they were both married and she kept her baby a secret to protect Gordy they were truly in love and made ther decision not to offend there love ones. Gordy was her manager and she and she wanted to please him. They wanted to break up to keep everyone happy. Motown took the world when it came to singing and other things. Yes they might be able to married one day.
I believe Barry loved Diana but sometimes the timing is just off. I like hearing him declare his love for Diana because they have a daughter and she needs to know she was conceived in love. Times were different back then and Diana wanted her child to be born in a legitimate marriage!! Good for both of them.
How can her child be born in a legitimate marriage when her biological father and mother wasn't married? She married another man, while pregnant for Berry. That would make her a bastard child. How was the child "conceived in love" when the relationship was pretty much an affair/fling? If the child was "conceived in love" then why didn't Berry marry Diana to show his "true love" how much he actually loves her? He even referred to his own daughter as "it". If my child was "conceived in love", I wouldn't wait 13 years to tell my child that I am her biological father. Diana's and Berry's daughter was told that Berry was her uncle growing up. Yeah, some love that was.🙄
Barry didn't love Diana he just used her as his cash cow. Grow up. You're very gullible you could easily be used in your relationship. You are prime doormat material. You are a bad judge of character too trusting and therefore easily manipulated.
Yeah, Diana and Berry thought they could hide that personal story forever, but Mary Wilson spilled the beans in her first book about that daughter. Diana said it hurt her badly and probably never forgave Mary until her death.
@@Gianni117 Maybe your comment is meant for someone who didn't read the book, but I did, from cover to cover. Or you might be dealing with semantics. Either way, it was Mary who said in her book, people can't help saying how much Diane's first daughter looks like Berry. (Mary and Flo always referred to Diana as Diane, her given name) Then shortly thereafter, Diana gave an interview disparaging Mary and in Diana's book she said Mary hurt her badly, but was not specific. This wasn't rocket science. Go refresh your memory from both books, then come back and comment.
Mary had no obligation to keep up Diana’s fake facade. It takes courage to expose a Narcissist. Mary had to endure a lot of smear campaigns & career damage from Diana.
Berry just wanted a super star that he created! It was just all ego for him. Even Diana said in her book that she realized that berry just used her! And that he tried to brake up Diana to and her Fiancé , and it wasn’t because he loved her and wanted her for himself. But because he wanted that control so that he could still be able to dog work her like he always had , with out any other man getting in the way !! She did not say it like this but in other words. I was so surprised that she had even admitted this! However Diana has said in some interview , can’t recall which, but said that she really tried to be as honest as she possibly could about how she felt and how she later on saw things through her perspective. And I commend her for that it’s not easy for her , being that she’s always been so private.
@@dddddadadad1796 She wanted him. He was a business man, had been married twice. He didn't want to marry her. It wouldn't not have been good for either. It's hard on a marriage. Then when it disolves it's about the money. He was smart not to marry her. He has no regrets. She was his star. That's how he saw her.
I 💕 her so much her and her family Diana Ross is and will always be my favorite her voice has always been Angelic to me from the time I was a little girl and now Iam 61 and her voice is still number one in my book I'm going to go see one of her show's one of these days I know it will be Heavenly
@@swetztalk5416 When he was married to Raynoma. Liles, he had an affair with Margaret Norton. Norton gave birth to a son, Kennedt, in 1963. Diana Ross was not involved with Gordy at that time, Please read Raynoma's book, "Berry, Motown and Me" written in 1990. Raynoma was nit a gangster. She was an integral part in the formation of Jobete Publishing and the early Motown Sound.
@@michellekirkendall818 § 🔴 . Calm down I was totally agreeing with you. I even corrected my comment! No need to get upset. This is for entertainment purposes only! for me anyway... period. Anyone can read the books. . Furthermore it's public information and it's no secret because there's people that really lived and are still living during that time and can tell the story! Peace and blessings enjoy your day!
Diana had to be a favorite of Berry's for who knows how many reasons! Berry probably doesn't even know himself! Diana did have talent, stage presence, and that star quality! She did have some things! But she also had Berry too! In more ways than one, as everybody eventually found out! And everyone at Motown, especially in the label's early years. They must of knew what was happening! I think he could have invested in other Motown artists too! Like he did Diana, with movies and everything. I wonder what would have happened if he had of invested in the others at Motown!
BS She wanted to marry him. He was a business man he isn't want to marry her. Had she not been preg-a-nant she prolly would not have married Sielbersten. They didn't stay together that long. Just to cover up a scandal of a LOVE CHILD.
@@thanddi Read Raynoma Gordy Singleton's Book. She gave Berry an ultimatum he refused, she the turned to Silberstein to cover up the live child. She don't stay with Silberstein long. He was her manager. Just a pawn. She was very clever and manipulative. In her own book she says his she seduced Arne Naes. Well she is she a superstar with money and no husband.
@@pamelasmart4968 And she said her money💰was hers. Her kids said that's what she told them, & they would have to make their own money after they got grown cause she made her money for herself. Everybody would have to get a job 🤑
Carolyn Bratton- They were each others stepping stones, helping each other get where they were going: To The 🔝 💰 💵 They thought being married to each other would interfere with that, with their friendship bond 💕😍
Barry Gordy was already married that's why Diana Ross didn't marry him she was a home breaker. DPitts. Diana has a great personality. That's charming. DP
That’s seems so many keep forgetting, I can only imagine what his poor wife went through knowing he was with Diana plus had a kid with her. The wife is always forgotten.. only the famous mistress remembered
You all need to let go of this narrative. A quick search can tell you that he was NOT married during this period. Even his ex-wife confirmed this on national television.
Berry Gordy wasn't married in 1965 when he started messing with Diana Ross... Barry Gordy had three wives... One name was Ray Singleton and he married her in 1960 and divorced in 1964 he started messing with Diana Ross in 1965 now she might have been married but he wasn't legally married..ijs
Even with his flows, if Berry Gordy was white with the portfolio and empire he's built from scratch, the music industry would refer to him a "the coming of christ"!!!
I've seen Eddie Kendrick story on Unsung. His wife at the time had caught him and Diana together in bed; she chased her out. His wife did not want to talk about it.
Berry Gordy and Diana Ross were deeply in love with one another. However, they were both too egotistical and ambitious to be able to live with one another. They were both "in the spotlight" type of people. It was impossible to live with either of them unless you were a "behind the scenes" type of person.
This kind of stuff makes me sick and for everyone to make a big deal about it and out of it makes me more sick. It feels like dirt news straight out of Hollywood. They both hit the sack with no conscious and that's why they don't blow my skirt tail up. What impresses me is people with respect. Not bed partner stories.
Black people like to drag black women down through the sewage, mud & garbage. They didn't get to do that with Diana Ross because, she's lived her lived well, making good choices. Still, more than 50 years after the fact, haters are trying to drag Diana Ross down. This is why smart black women reject Blackistan altogether. The haters are raging mad that Diana Ross escaped Blackistan, flying higher & shining brighter than their favorites. They say that "success is the best revenge" I suppose that is true. Many black people & Diana Ross haters wanted Diana to live in shame, poverty & disgrace. But clearly, that ain't happening! Blackistan & Diana Ross haters are extremely toxic, racist and life threatening. They hate to see a black woman stand up for herself and thrive they see it as uppity and black women are undeserving of the best in life. These haters are basically racist wanting only the worst for black women.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT AWARDS SHOW AND WHAT DATE SAID WAS/IS WHERE DIANA ROSS IS SENDING LOVE AND WISHES TO MARY WILSON PLEASE🙏🙏🙏?!! WAS SAID AROUND MARY'S AUTO ACCIDENT WHEN HER SON PASSES?!! RIP TO BOTH MARY AND HER SON,,, AMEN🙏🙏🙏!!!
I don't know why Mr. Berry Gordy didn't marry Ms. Diana Ross but I know I'm a fan of both of these talented people. I love Ms. Diana Ross. I love the group "The Supremes " and I love Ms. Diana Ross as a solo artist too. I'm a fan of Mr. Berry Gordy for discovering Motown Records. I love all of the Motown artist❤. I was in my late parents record collection.
Why are we romanticizing what amounts to the old “casting couch?” Diana wanted to be a star. Berry had the power to make her a star. Diana seduces Berry. She becomes a star. It ain’t rocket science!
Beloved! Please don't die without JESUS in your heart! We are ONLY born to fall in love with JESUS then go Home to live with Him forever! NO OTHER REASON!
@@pairrynwatson4229 Truth is always there-- just have to KNOW IT.. Diana an Barry will never tell the truth.. it is too wrong but they were young and hungry for $$$$$$ --fame and at the cost of much..and they did not THINK or BELIEVE they would have to answer for their choosings... lol--- KARMA is real and GOD see s IT ALL... (( that goes for us all)).....
How many ppl do u know who DONT sleep with a man b4 marriage? Were u a virgin on ur 💒 night? SHE refused to marry Him. She just wasn't that into him...
This has nothing to do with MY life. Miss Ross was a scheming wench who was always looking for her main chance no matter who it hurt! She sold out Florence Ballard & Mary Wilson without a second thought. So I think we can disagree without being disagreeable!
You think the milk was free? With Miss Ross, I doubt anything was free! That man spent more money, time, energy, & emotion on Diana Ross than all his wives combined! Diana maybe a lot of things, but low maintenance ain’t one of them!!!
It’s hard for two head-strong people to be together forever
Barbara Walters was always on call to ask the tough questions🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for Motown Records Mr. Berry Gordy ❤. My late parents had all of the Motown records from every artist on your label. Thank you for the WONDERFUL Artist and the MUSIC. A Wonderful Legend!!
Yes sir mr GORDY GOOD MAN give life two Motown music we all love you berry Gordy ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤we all support Motown music
MOTOWN needs to pay the "ANDANTES" all the royalties due them!!!!
HE IS A LIAR!!! Nothing he says will I believe.
Yeah, not believing some of this crap!
Well, he has to be a good liar to have ripped off so many of the very talented singers who worked for him in that era.
@@sharontolan2781 I couldn’t imagine growing up not knowing my REAL daddy was my mother’s boss. Could you please? He knew about Rhonda and he knew that was his damn seed. Shame on them both.
@@ReasonablySpeaking9808 I agree with you 100%. Please tune in to ashleysaysso on Diana Ross. Ashley is pretty legit and does her research on many motown singers among others.
Could it be because he was ALREADY mArried!!!!!!!
No it couldnt. He divorced his wife Raymona Gordy in 1964 and did not begin dating Diana till 1965!...
No, he was not married. He was divorced.
That was deep. She came down to him and kissed him right on the lips. Star performance and so romantic. Wow.
Wasn’t Diana younger
He was already married and wasn't leaving his wife.
Facts
Carolyn Moffett was he married to a white woman at that time?
@@lindataylor5704 I don't think so.
@@lindataylor5704 He was never married to a white woman. Interracial relationships are gross.
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So are the kids from these gross unions, gross too?
The little girl looks just like him.
Yes!
True
Mr. Gordy was accustomed to women who basked in his power not one who had HER own. Nonetheless their 'Endless Love" is undeniable!
He knew a Narcissist when he saw one & he was smart enough to know when she’s used him enough. He was no fool.
@@globalcitizenn Oh okay
@@globalcitizenn People back them said that he was nothing but a pimp who used his singers
@@globalcitizenn they probably was using each other.she made sure she got a baby out of the using. That alone kinda secured her finances in a sense.
According to Hoyel " Money Is It.
Diana Ross did an excellent job playing "Lady sings the blues" that is one of my favorite movies of all times. Luv u. Diana Ross
Thanx for upload.🤗🤗
he still loves her
He was never in love with her. You need to understand black male pathology. She risked ruining her career having his child out of wedlock. He refused to marry her when he could have done so. He was 17 years older than she. Gordy was her manipulator. It was just a power & ego trip. He loved controlling her. Many of you are gullible & weak.
He never loved her. Let's hear Hazel's side of the story. Let's also hear from Berry's other wives. Notice how he drops Michael & Diana' s names because they were the biggest stars and he wants to link his name to them. If a man loves you he will claim you and give your child his name. He will claim you & his child and provide for both.
He talks like Diana created Motown, my goodness. She had his nose open.
She was years younger than him,he took advantage of her and she used him for her advantage!!!
@@1goldbaby they were 1 of the same. He was a me person and she was an I person.
P_ssy Whipped is what I remember old school called it😂. Yeah but I heard nose open too.
@@elisageorge1798 yes I've heard this also. He still talks about it. Berry Gordy was something else. They say he was a pimp.
Yes the sun rise and sets on her and she was strictly for herself.!!
Always was and you would think she stared the girl group but she didn’t she was the last one to come in the group .!!
Mrs.Flo Ballard got this group together and help make everyone reach stardom with the help of Mr Barry Gordy Oh by the way Mary found Diana Ross and brought her in.!!
Berry Gordy was married! And he hooked his sister up with Marvin Gaye. She was 12 years older than Marvin.
Anna Gordy Gaye, 39, married 21-year-old Marvin Pentz Gaye.
@@michellekirkendall818 - do you blame her? Marvin was hot, sexy, and was going to make millions.
Marvin and Anna met on their own, Gordy had nothing to do with their relationship. Also Anna was 17 years older than Marvin
@@carolynbratton7827 that's exactly right, Marvin Gaye stated that in his autobiography.
17 year difference
This documentary is full of history of the Detroit sound of America 🇺🇸
WHAT A BRILLANT FAMILY .....SO MUCH LOVE THEY HAVE GIVEN US AND WE LOVE THEM ENDLESSLY.... BLESSINGS AND PROSPERITY!!
You were married and didn't want to leave his wife at the time and how couldn't he not know the child was his hell she looks just like him 🙄
He didn't wanna leave his wife but he did wanna sleep with whoever else he wanted 🙄
Okay it was very Obvious.!
He just didn’t expect she would have his baby is probably what really happened and she wasn’t getting Rid of her baby.!!
Fact is immediately having the child Diana knew she wasn’t a mixed child and unless she had been sleeping with many black men which I doubt than she new immediately the child was Berry Gordy it’s just that Berry was married so she kept his secret until he got divorced. Which is part of the reason he loves Diana so much. She didn’t demand anything of Berry but that he made her a star which he did. Diana’s husband was a white man so they new immediately Rhonda was not a mixed race child. Like I said they just kept his secret.
Girl please. He knew that was his child.
@tori byrd: He was not married at the time; Ross and Gordy dated from 1965 - 1970, it was thought that the couple would marry. It was said, upon the discovery of her pregnancy, she went to tell him. However, he had begun a relationship with someone else. Angry, she rebounded with the handsome schoolteacher, Robert Ellis Silberstein. She'd known him only a few months. They don't tell us everything; I think he knew about the baby very early on. She simply had MOVED ON, knowing marriage to Gordy was out of the question.
IF YOU PUT BERRY GORDY AND JERMAINE DUPREE TOGETHER LOOKS LIKE HIS SON
Barry Gordy isn't short like Jermaine Dupree. That is not his son.
Thank you Mr Gordy for your Accomplishments to our Race and bring out the talent of these wonderful Artists , a Giving of a beautiful Legend Ms Diva and exciting Diana Ross
"Then Diana and I discussed it and we realized that it was MY child."
YOU may have realized it, Mr. Gordy, but the woman almost always knows
We realized..lol lol Diana knew whose baby it was. You were probably the only black rich executive that she knew at the time. .. so of course as Maury would say “YOU are the FATHER”.
@@winniejohnson5559 He was the only one “you” knew
@@winniejohnson5559 🤣😅😅 tell it like it is!
this is all BULL> Diana and bery knew that she was knocked up and that this arrangement with the whiteman was just that. an arrangement. all parties knew the deal, just as with the kartrashians who front for gay athletes on the downlow. this was all paid and arranged for. even mary and Cindy knew the score
Diana & her 1st husband, Traci & Chudney's father KNEW that she was already pregnant by Berry b4 they married. It was never a surprise nor secret to Diane from the moment she found out she was pregnant to the time Rhonda was that 13 year old girl they finally told that "Uncle B.B." was in fact her father. Plus, Rhonda looks MOST LIKE Berry than any of his children. Finally, Diane has publicly stated that her ex-husband, Arne Naess (the father of her 2 sons), was the 1 TRUE LOVE OF HER LIFE, THE 1 SHE WANTED TO GROW OLD WITH. Interestingly enuff, for all the ugly they did to so many, they both ended up growing old & alone & both egomaniacs never saw saw it coming, but it's exactly what they both DESERVED, 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾good ole karma!!!!!
Berry was married already. Please! Diane didn't receive any slander for this??
Berry was always there he was in her life
She had entrusted him practically with her entire life.
Berry will never turn his back on her, Berry was Devoted to her
It's despicable how childish and selfish she was. They had other females singers at Motown that she felt threatened by because she was not a good singer. She would complain to Gordy to have them removed. Gladys Knight stated that she and the Pips were on tour with supremes and was out shinning Diana. Diana calls Berry Gody and has them taken off the tour. In another incident, Diana ross wears another artist's dress so that they can't perform. The artist complains to Berry Gordy and he says to leave Diana alone. The other performers were told to not outperform Diana. Diana was not the lead singer of the supremes until she started an affair with Gordy and a songwriter at Motown. She performed in three movies for Gordy, Mahogany, lady sings the blues and the wiz due to an affair with Gordy. Gordy and ross even had a child together. She has as much talent as Marilyn Monroe, But both slept their way to fame. No Respect!
Well Damn...
She was made the lead by Berry because she had a commercial voice. He wanted a light sound not a churchy one. If you listen to her in Lady Sings The Blues you actually hear that she really can sings.
@@tonyamontgomery2733 You can't tell me that sleeping with the boss did not enhance her career. They had more talented female singers at motown than Diana Ross. Diana Ross wasn't even the best singer in the supremes. But you're right, commercially she was better suited than the others.
@@NELSONSANDY2003 it was all about a light sound that could cross over to the white audience. She had charm, charisma, and personality.
it was on diana tour when she went solo not with the supreme when she told gladyss to stop touring her own tour
She look like her daddy dont she?!
"Word Salad". His main attraction to Diana was business. He was mostly in love with her drive and work ethic. He didn't marry her because he didn't want to. He married a no name, no career having Eurasion with no problem. The successful black man's ideal woman is not usually black like him.🤷🏾♀
Because she had his baby
@@IT-qb7dw So did Diana Ross.
The one other married man (who speaks so highly of her, and wanted to marry her) was Brian Holland!
I don't think he ever really loved her like she loved him.
Berry Gordy, that is!
We as the people of the world 🌍 owe this man a lifetime of gratitude 💕🥰 for making beautiful music 🎶 and powerful artists thank u #BerryGordy
I understand what your saying, but all the Motown stories you have heard are so tragic and the most tragic of them all is a Marvin Gaye 😿😿😿😿😿
@@eq11eq11eq Is it worse than Florence Ballard?
@@orane3549 it's difficult to measure sadness, sorrows, grief and etc. Because everyone doesn't process information the same due to other factors such as what type of relationship between the deceased and the ones who's grieving. In this case these people was Performers/Entertainers. We admired them and listen to their music. We don't know them personally.
And robbed them all blind! 🤷🏽♀️
@@orane3549 What happened to Florence Ballard's life and career ending the way it did was really tragic. She did initiate the group & came up with the name, The Supremes. She was 💔 because of the way she was treated after they became famous, that's why she started drinking so much. I can totally understand her why... She was trying to numb her pain but it wasn't the way she should have done it, at the time she just probably didn't know what else to do 😭
He didn't want to honor Diana's conditions for staying with Motown.
Not true...He was selling the company he already new that...when it was announced that Ross would leave Motown there was a bidding war...the resulting contract is the basis of her wealth...her money was badly mismanaged at Motown so she left...also knowing that Barry wasn't going to remain...
@@TheDealvin Berry didn't sell the company until 1988.
@@saj8 she left the company in 86 with a hit album...it wasn't just Barry she wanted independence also...and she didn't want his control any longer...
@@TheDealvin She left the company in 1981 and was signed to RCA the same year. Your timeline is wrong.
@@saj8 perhaps...she left after Upside down and Endless love...my dateline may be incorrect but the reasons are sound...she say as much in her memoir
BERRY LOOKS BETTER TODAY THEN HE DID WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER.....
I agree 😊
Gordy and Ross don't believe in 'limits' like 'ordinary' people do. They are STARS and weren't afraid of consequences.
I agree.
They are now !! Not as big then as they went on to become. Well especially Diana .
Toxic BW your attitude has died out. You have no understanding of human relationships and can't relate to people. Diana Ross made a LOT of $$$ for Barry Gordy and Smokey Robinson. They owned the songs, the publishing and take all the royalties. The music industry pimps artists. Its a pimp/prostitute relationship. Smart artists stay drug free, they learn the business, seek to own their assets, they tour a lot, marry well and invest well.
Cause he was already married
Mo he was not. He was divorced a yr before they dated...
What you are saying can't be true because Barbara Walters would have confronted him in the interview about it and he knows that and he wouldn't have even done the interview with her.
He was divorced from Raynoma Gordy Singleton in 64. He did have a mistress named Margaret who had become a baby mama. So to his credit he was a cheater but not married when he courted Diana.
Right already had a wife
@@bellestarr4040 He had two wives before dealing with Diana and was legally divorced to both of them before he started rocking Diana's world.
He’s so manipulative of the English language
He knows what to say and how to say
Diana Ross couldn’t get married because they were already married.That’s the truth
*_They could not get Married even though Berry was Single, because Diana was already Married_*_ to her 1st Husband._ When he & Diana were together 1965-1970 Berry was a Divorced man _(2nd wife)._ *Another reason why she did not marry him* was probably because when he was married to his 2nd wife Berry had 2 mistresses and a child by both of them so *_he had 6kids._* He probably would've done the same to her.
He is lying,I don't believe for one second he didn't know she was pregnant with his child,they hid it like things were done back in that era.he knew Rhonda wasn't that white man's child that Diana married..go figure..
@@1goldbaby That's why Diana Ross married Tracie Ellis Ross daddy so fast. The two men were friends. Barry Gordy wanted the people to think Rhonda was not his. How could they hide that. Rhonda was not his. Rhonda said that she knew she was different from her other two sisters with the complexion and hair. Notice, how Tracy Ellis Ross act like she the boss when they family is on shows together.
@@lindataylor5704 yep!!! Tracy is ALWAYS trying to be out front when it comes to Diana!!! I would love to hear from Rhonda how she felt growing up with her and Chudney.I don't think Chudney wants to be black nor does that oldest boy she had by that billionaire.Anyhoo,it is so sad that they have identity issues..I hope they UNDERSTAND that if it wasn't for their mother,THEY WOULDN'T BE NOTHING!!!
@@dddddadadad1796 well Tracie then,and you KNOW who she is and if you Don't ,then you Need to educate yourself!!!
because he was already married but that didn't stop what was happening behind the scene
To this day he's still crazy about his Diana. When he talks about her his face lights up. That's an unbreakable love that no one or nothing can come between. It's sometimes hard to understand but very real!!! ❤❤❤
You're right, he looks like a kid crazy in love with his first love🥰😍😍
Michael loved her even MORE than Berry ever could. MJ would have died for her...
She made a lot of money for him and satisfied his ego.
😂
He was in love w/ that burned out puss. Boy bye lmfaooo
What a Mess.
Now that they both are single and old they can get back together, we will see.
@@rosenyako9726 I Doubt That Will Happen 🙃🙂
@@pairrynwatson4229
I doubt it too
All your artists work hard. Don't just give credit only to Diana Ross because you loved her.
Wasn’t he already married? Isn’t that why?
Absolutely!😉
Ms Ross and Mr Berry Gordy were ( and continue to be in armony ! ) .Thank you Gio for another fantastic video
Thanks to you dear friend👍👋
Mr. Gordy remind me of Damon Dash.
Watching this I felt his admiration cause she’s just phenomenal to me as well 🙌🏾
Berry Gordy and Diana Ross had a fling. He was married. She had (Rhonda), her daughter by berry and that was the end of their fling.
Hate to say it and Rhonda is not that good looking
@@champagnekaay57 Rhonda is a Beautiful black afro centric woman.
@@champagnekaay57 she looks like Diana and berry and both of them are
nothing to write or call home about ok
neither one are appealing
@@champagnekaay57 she has her own beauty.
@@champagnekaay57
Neither is Tracey. She's just light skinned.
Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free.
Looks like he had issues with women and keeping them. Married 3 times something was wrong with him.
Just like me
That or that he didn’t value the sanctity of marriage..
@@winniejohnson5559 still there's an underlying problem some place.
Janise Amis- And she had issues with men. She couldn't stay with her husbands 💔
Because it was all about business, not love. Diana admitted on PBS, that she wasn't in love with Berry Gordy, but she had long nails though..., LOL !!!
She was Stupid N Love With him.
@@pamelasmart4968 Maybe she was using him.
@@pamelasmart4968 No she wasn’t.
Berry took Diana to new height in her career.
Diana’s preference in men are Caucasians..
@@Michelle-jz8vl
She wanted Berry
He was only interested in the money.
Read Raynoma Gordy Singleton's Book.
She was crazy for Berry.
He turned her down.
Silberstein was a pawn to cover up the live child.
Arne Naes divorced her and had a baby. They were too different people. Without the Supremes and Berry Gordy there would be no Diana. That's it that's all!
@@pamelasmart4968 no way could that white man cover up Rhonda !! She may have thought Rhonda was a pawn for her success . Not sure but she knew it wasn’t a bad idea to have a baby with a rich man. All of her children’s fathers are well off or were successful men regardless of color ..
He didn’t marry Diane because she wasn’t in love with him. She was sprung on Eddie Kendricks.
Hell I was sprung on Eddie Kendricks too!❤
@SPF
Not so, Eddie was sprung on Diane. I'm able to to tell you this as somewhat an insider.
@@mississippigirl4193 do tell.
@@mississippigirl4193 Hey . I thought Diana wanted Marvin Gaye but Marvin didn't want her. Marvin was so in love with Tammy Terrell.
He didn't marry Diana because he was already married. Eddie K was the great love of Diana's life and she was really broken when he married someone else.
Because she didn't love him like she loved her husbands, she has stated this publicly. She said her last marriage was the love of her life..
She should not have laid with him then. GOD will judge fornication the same as adultery.
True !
@Mamadou Aziza: Miss Ross DID want to marry Mr. Gordy. He didn't want to marry her. And rumor has it that he had embarked on an affair when she went to notify him of her pregnancy.
@@michellekirkendall818
Not true. She said in a recent interview she never loved him the way she loved her husbands and she was not interested in marrying him.. Her words. Yes also told Barbra Walters this too.
@@mamadouaziza2536 If you read her memoirs, "Secrets Of A Sparrow" (1993) she explains how she became confused by his actions, it seemed he loved her, then he became controlling....he said himself that she asked him about getting married. He said by doing that, "he would have to kiss her ass" in a kidding manner. I do think she loved him MORE than he loved her.
MISS ROSS IS TRULY THE EPITOME OF LONGEVITY ,& CLASS,IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. !!!! DIANA ROSS ; SURE LEAVES THESE SO CALL SINGER STARS OF TODAY FOR DEAD PERIOD ! NO LIP SINKING TO HER SONGS , ALL SONGS SUNG LIVE !!!💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
It's fascinating that this could still be of any interest to people 50 years later. But, as pointed out, he was married part of the time and she was his "star." A "star" who was sleeping with the boss in 1971 (and then subsequently becoming pregnant with his child) would not have been looked on favorably. Not even if it was Diana Ross (or any other woman, for that matter, but especially Black women). Those were the morals of that time. And they were pretty puritanical.
Sleeping with the boss=In a relationship with..
Yes unlike now where everybody sleeps with anyone and everyone for no reason other than lust . No integrity.. wreaking havoc and heartache…I would rather be a prude any day
mcbrion1951- It is fascinating & incredible how ppl r debating about ppls relationship issues that r over 50 yrs old to the level of an argument 😱😤😟😠
@@pairrynwatson4229 right. It was literally 50 years ago. They need to get over it.
Older men seduce young girls & women all the time. When they make a man rich he manipulates the relationship for gain. You are stupid. He was going with a teenager. He was manipulating her.
MR GORDY AND MISS ROSS ROCK MY MUSIC WORLD. YOU BET AFTER THEIR MUSICAL INFLUENTIAL IMPACT UPON MY LIFE.. I AM FULL CIRCLE. I HOLD MY OWN QUITE WELL MUSICALLY..THANKS BERRY & DIANA.
sadly that poor Women ..then & now are being pimped in the industry. sad Women seeking stardom allowed Themselves to be used by egomaniacs. 😔😔
WHY would Barry marry Ross? He sure didn't need to buy the cow, and she sure got fooled.
She was not interested in Marrying him. He was twice Divorced with 6kids. Two of those kids he had with 2 women that he cheated on his 2nd wife with. His Track Record wasn't too impressive. She gained Fame, Money, and a Legacy even before leaving Motown for a lucrative *RCA Records $20Million Dollar* 7yr recording contract deal. *_How did she get fooled?_* You think she wanted to marry him. Berry Gordy was a Single man when Diana found out she was 2mos pregnant and married her 1st Husband instead of Berry Gordy. *_So how did she get fooled again?_*
@@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496 she still wanted to marry him, I'll believe it till I die! My privallge , you can believe anything you want, this is America.
@@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496 Sounds like fools for love, but not in love.
She didn't want him and in fact she actually hated him during the Mahogany era.. She has publicly stated she never loved him like she loved her husbands..
@@reglook1
Fake news... She has stated that she loved him but was not IN LOVE with him the way she was IN LOVE with her husbands.
I wish they would have married. I love Dianna and Berry and Motown.
And Florence Ballard got screwed in the process.
Yeah, Florence's actions had NOTHING to do with her being ousted from the group 🙄.
sadly..😔
She sadly screwed herself.
Sure did
@@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496 Florence was very bitter about how Diane was able to manipulate Berry and get her way. Florence didn't know how to play the game. Then she let the bottle get the best of her.
Berry got his brains beat out! ... (Richard Pryor) .... 🤣
LONG LIVE DIANA ROSS!
WHAT A BRILLANT FAMILY .....SO MUCH LIVE THEY HAVE GIVEN US AND WE LIVE THEM ENDLESSLY.... BLESSINGS AND PROSPERITY!!
Barry's wife gave him the money to start Motown. He didn't borrow money from his family.
motown myth MAFIA MAFIA MAFIA front like OPRAH
@Sandra Atkins: First, Motown Records founder is BERRY GORDY, JR. (Not Barry) and HIS FAMILY gave him the $800.00 to start the company.
@@thomasdelvin3683 Are you black or white? I am interested to know where you got this information.
@@michellekirkendall818 Opinions vary.
@@sandraatkins2539 The story is old enough at this time to have traction. I was a "Detroit Sound" fan since the age of nine in 1963. It is not opinion. Berry Gordy, Jr came from a family of business owners, record producers (sisters Gwen and Anna). The early Motown was made up of Berry's family, 8 siblings! Gordy himself wrote a book called "To Be Loved" (1996) also, the money amount is mentioned in "Berry, Me and Motown" (1990) by Raynoma Gordy Singleton, who Berry married in the late fifties. Any one alive during the early days, knows about the $800.00 from family members....they had the money to give! This is not opinion, it is fact....people who weren't alive at the time are spreading misinformation.
All the female grouos were takented but diana ross had something different she didnt look like rest of woman she was charastmatic she dynamic
What a run...Motown
Beyonce reminds me of Diana Ross and i dont like either one of them she did the surpremes like shit and Beyonce did destiny child like shit.
I agree.
Yes
Berry and Diana Should just get married...just for genuine mutual, affection and companionship. Damn all the un-realistic; willy-nelly, expectations (LOVE) in the minds of the young...just two people who (RESPECTFUL) know each other inside and out. Neither Diana nor Berry need anyone's approval about "NOTHING"! I would love to know they both were one another safe place..." TOGETHER ". "The only (TRUE) relationship's either had in their entire lives...we're with one another"!
Because he was such a player
Dianna made out better with Robert Ellis & Arne Naess, Jr.
Gordy good man open the door for her....
I know they are glad they gave him the 800. What if they would have said no.
People still haven’t figured out why he favored Diana over everyone else. It wasn’t just her voice. She was a hustler. A ride or die chick with a reputation in Detroit. She told Berry, “If you think it, I’ll do it.” And it paid off for him, whether it be singing, acting, sex, or anything else.
Dag Babs!! Why didn’t you marry Edward Brooke? Of course at time of this interview, it wasn’t known that you were creeping with Edward Brooke which you revealed later in a book you wrote.
Berry Gordy was a married man. He is Hazel Gordy father..the lady who married Jermaine Jackson. He wasn't leaving his wife. Diane had him fire Florence take Gladys off the tour and give her the Wiz role..that was Stephanie Mills role..she did it on Broadway. Ross is low down and dirty..most project kids are like that..survial skills cut throat. That Billionaire who is the Father of Evan and Ross booted her mean butt out.
That's why Michael song dirty Diana
God kept diana here,because she knew how to change
Thank you Curtis for that l was getting ready to say that too. She is one beautiful 77 year old woman..
A woman looking like that is doing right. Something right. Thanks Curtiss for talking me through that l was in an earthquake the signs were coming down
saying remove to dismiss. Everything was closing down. She can not help it because she is young and beautiful at 77 years old and that voice is still there
Thank you curtis for saying that.
She took care of her self by changing her ways. growing up, She was a child. l never seen her act like that l saw 2 jealous women Got up because she went higher and went to Hollywood and made it. But she Is living right God is with her. To sing like that.
They said they did not want to get deeper involved and they knew they were both married and she kept her baby a secret to protect Gordy they were truly in love and made ther decision not to offend there love ones. Gordy was her manager and she and she wanted to please him. They wanted to break up to keep everyone happy. Motown took the world when it came to singing and other things. Yes they might be able to married one day.
I believe Barry loved Diana but sometimes the timing is just off. I like hearing him declare his love for Diana because they have a daughter and she needs to know she was conceived in love. Times were different back then and Diana wanted her child to be born in a legitimate marriage!! Good for both of them.
How can her child be born in a legitimate marriage when her biological father and mother wasn't married? She married another man, while pregnant for Berry. That would make her a bastard child. How was the child "conceived in love" when the relationship was pretty much an affair/fling? If the child was "conceived in love" then why didn't Berry marry Diana to show his "true love" how much he actually loves her? He even referred to his own daughter as "it". If my child was "conceived in love", I wouldn't wait 13 years to tell my child that I am her biological father. Diana's and Berry's daughter was told that Berry was her uncle growing up. Yeah, some love that was.🙄
Barry didn't love Diana he just used her as his cash cow. Grow up. You're very gullible you could easily be used in your relationship. You are prime doormat material. You are a bad judge of character too trusting and therefore easily manipulated.
In the 1970's plenty of people had kids out of wedlock.
" LOVE CHILD " .....Oh My God !!!...None of Us Ever Dreamed How AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL That Song Was !!!
Ms Ross is a boss. The Ultimate boss.
Why didn’t he mention Raynoma ? She had ALOT to do with the formation of Motown in the beginning !!!!
Yeah, Diana and Berry thought they could hide that personal story forever, but Mary Wilson spilled the beans in her first book about that daughter. Diana said it hurt her badly and probably never forgave Mary until her death.
Not true ....
Mary never mentioned anything about Ronda Ross...
@@Gianni117 Maybe your comment is meant for someone who didn't read the book, but I did, from cover to cover. Or you might be dealing with semantics. Either way, it was Mary who said in her book, people can't help saying how much Diane's first daughter looks like Berry. (Mary and Flo always referred to Diana as Diane, her given name) Then shortly thereafter, Diana gave an interview disparaging Mary and in Diana's book she said Mary hurt her badly, but was not specific. This wasn't rocket science. Go refresh your memory from both books, then come back and comment.
Mary had no obligation to keep up Diana’s fake facade. It takes courage to expose a Narcissist. Mary had to endure a lot of smear campaigns & career damage from Diana.
Oh!
Has his wife forgiven Diana and Berry?
Beautiful people
Berry just wanted a super star that he created! It was just all ego for him. Even Diana said in her book that she realized that berry just used her! And that he tried to brake up Diana to and her Fiancé , and it wasn’t because he loved her and wanted her for himself. But because he wanted that control so that he could still be able to dog work her like he always had , with out any other man getting in the way !! She did not say it like this but in other words. I was so surprised that she had even admitted this! However Diana has said in some interview , can’t recall which, but said that she really tried to be as honest as she possibly could about how she felt and how she later on saw things through her perspective. And I commend her for that it’s not easy for her , being that she’s always been so private.
That’s rich of Diana to say, coz she only targeted him to use him from the get go. Guess she realised two can play that game.
@@dddddadadad1796 your right Ms. Ross never said that Ali is just making this stuff up....
@@dddddadadad1796
She wanted him. He was a business man, had been married twice. He didn't want to marry her. It wouldn't not have been good for either. It's hard on a marriage. Then when it disolves it's about the money. He was smart not to marry her. He has no regrets. She was his star. That's how he saw her.
Wow!! Loved his real ness!! Berry Gordon!!
I 💕 her so much her and her family Diana Ross is and will always be my favorite her voice has always been Angelic to me from the time I was a little girl and now Iam 61 and her voice is still number one in my book I'm going to go see one of her show's one of these days I know it will be Heavenly
§ 🔴 cuz he was married to Margaret That's why!!! And Ray Singleton was gangsta! According to the book
Berry, though married to the other Motown founder, wife Raynoma Liles, he had an affair with Margaret Norton. He was never married to Margaret.
🔴. Correction: he was married to Ray which was a gangster and Margaret was the side chick. Either way he didn't marry Diane
@@swetztalk5416 When he was married to Raynoma. Liles, he had an affair with Margaret Norton. Norton gave birth to a son, Kennedt, in 1963. Diana Ross was not involved with Gordy at that time, Please read Raynoma's book, "Berry, Motown and Me" written in 1990. Raynoma was nit a gangster. She was an integral part in the formation of Jobete Publishing and the early Motown Sound.
Oh, I misspelled the son's name. it's Kennedy.
@@michellekirkendall818 § 🔴 . Calm down I was totally agreeing with you. I even corrected my comment! No need to get upset. This is for entertainment purposes only! for me anyway... period. Anyone can read the books. . Furthermore it's public information and it's no secret because there's people that really lived and are still living during that time and can tell the story! Peace and blessings enjoy your day!
Diana had to be a favorite of Berry's for who knows how many reasons! Berry probably doesn't even know himself! Diana did have talent, stage presence, and that star quality! She did have some things! But she also had Berry too! In more ways than one, as everybody eventually found out! And everyone at Motown, especially in the label's early years. They must of knew what was happening! I think he could have invested in other Motown artists too! Like he did Diana, with movies and everything. I wonder what would have happened if he had of invested in the others at Motown!
Berry de Gordy wasn’t the marrying type. Ask Raynoma Gordy Singleton.
Berry Gordy was definitely the marrying type. He married 3 times!
Rhonda's son's name isn't pronounced "Reef", it's pronounced "RAH-EEF" (Raif).
That's simple, she didnt want to marry him probably. I think he was just a stepping stone for her career.
BS
She wanted to marry him.
He was a business man he isn't want to marry her. Had she not been preg-a-nant she prolly would not have married Sielbersten. They didn't stay together that long. Just to cover up a scandal of a LOVE CHILD.
@@pamelasmart4968 I cannot believe she did not tell Gordy. Screwing Gordy and marrying another man 2 months later?
@@thanddi
Read Raynoma Gordy Singleton's Book.
She gave Berry an ultimatum he refused, she the turned to Silberstein to cover up the live child. She don't stay with Silberstein long. He was her manager. Just a pawn. She was very clever and manipulative. In her own book she says his she seduced Arne Naes.
Well she is she a superstar with money and no husband.
@@pamelasmart4968 And she said her money💰was hers. Her kids said that's what she told them, & they would have to make their own money after they got grown cause she made her money for herself. Everybody would have to get a job 🤑
Carolyn Bratton- They were each others stepping stones, helping each other get where they were going: To The 🔝 💰 💵 They thought being married to each other would interfere with that, with their friendship bond 💕😍
Barry Gordy was already married that's why Diana Ross didn't marry him she was a home breaker. DPitts. Diana has a great personality. That's charming. DP
Cause he was ALREADY married I presume ???
That’s seems so many keep forgetting, I can only imagine what his poor wife went through knowing he was with Diana plus had a kid with her. The wife is always forgotten.. only the famous mistress remembered
You all need to let go of this narrative. A quick search can tell you that he was NOT married during this period. Even his ex-wife confirmed this on national television.
He was divorced from Raynoma Gordy in 64..
@@phillycheez6288Absolutely 💯 Berry said people talk things they know nothing about 😃
Berry Gordy wasn't married in 1965 when he started messing with Diana Ross... Barry Gordy had three wives... One name was Ray Singleton and he married her in 1960 and divorced in 1964 he started messing with Diana Ross in 1965 now she might have been married but he wasn't legally married..ijs
@GIO MALGIO UR GOOD AT THIS CAUSE THIS IS FIRST TIME SEEING THIS ND I SURE IN HECK DIDNT GO DOWN READING THE COMMENTS TO find out
Even with his flows, if Berry Gordy was white with the portfolio and empire he's built from scratch, the music industry would refer to him a "the coming of christ"!!!
You people are so obsessed with white people. What a stupid comment.
Wow!
That baby looked just like him
who really cares!, she. Was trying to break eddie kendricks home up he didn't
feel about her the way she felt about him
I've seen Eddie Kendrick story on Unsung. His wife at the time had caught him and Diana together in bed; she chased her out. His wife did not want to talk about it.
Wow! He loved her, He appear to still love her today. I can't imagine, what it was like, back then. WOW ,WHAT did she have. She had Mike, like that ✌!
Classic karmic relationship. Pure love but destined to never be together ....
Diana ❤️ Ross is a gorgeous beautiful lady 🌹 inside and outside 🥰🌹😍❤️❤️ Barry Gordy also the beautiful ladies 🌹🙏🙏 of the Supremes and of course Motown
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Berry Gordy and Diana Ross were deeply in love with one another. However, they were both too egotistical and ambitious to be able to live with one another. They were both "in the spotlight" type of people. It was impossible to live with either of them unless you were a "behind the scenes" type of person.
GIO MALGIO - IM SURE MANY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN STATED BEFORE A FEW TIMES.. OK SON
This kind of stuff makes me sick and for everyone to make a big deal about it and out of it makes me more sick. It feels like dirt news straight out of Hollywood. They both hit the sack with no conscious and that's why they don't blow my skirt tail up. What impresses me is people with respect. Not bed partner stories.
Black people like to drag black women down through the sewage, mud & garbage. They didn't get to do that with Diana Ross because, she's lived her lived well, making good choices. Still, more than 50 years after the fact, haters are trying to drag Diana Ross down. This is why smart black women reject Blackistan altogether. The haters are raging mad that Diana Ross escaped Blackistan, flying higher & shining brighter than their favorites. They say that "success is the best revenge" I suppose that is true. Many black people & Diana Ross haters wanted Diana to live in shame, poverty & disgrace. But clearly, that ain't happening! Blackistan & Diana Ross haters are extremely toxic, racist and life threatening. They hate to see a black woman stand up for herself and thrive they see it as uppity and black women are undeserving of the best in life. These haters are basically racist wanting only the worst for black women.
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Love Mr. BERRY'S rawness and honesty ⭐
But once Rhonda was born, everybody knew Rhonda was not biracial. Come on! I said that when Diana was pregnant with Rhonda...
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT AWARDS SHOW AND WHAT DATE SAID WAS/IS WHERE DIANA ROSS IS SENDING LOVE AND WISHES TO MARY WILSON PLEASE🙏🙏🙏?!!
WAS SAID AROUND MARY'S AUTO ACCIDENT WHEN HER SON PASSES?!!
RIP TO BOTH MARY AND HER SON,,, AMEN🙏🙏🙏!!!
I don't know why Mr. Berry Gordy didn't marry Ms. Diana Ross but I know I'm a fan of both of these talented people.
I love Ms. Diana Ross. I love the group "The Supremes " and I love Ms. Diana Ross as a solo artist too. I'm a fan of Mr. Berry Gordy for discovering Motown Records.
I love all of the Motown artist❤.
I was in my late parents record collection.
Rhonda is a stunning blend of Ross and Gordy. So gorgeous. Hmm...maybe Gordy and Ross will marry one day.
Gordy is over 90 years old.
I seriously doubt that. Sometimes distance is better. Friendship and respect is there and they made one beautiful lady.
Why are we romanticizing what amounts to the old “casting couch?” Diana wanted to be a star. Berry had the power to make her a star. Diana seduces Berry. She becomes a star. It ain’t rocket science!
She’s aight . & the chances of that happening are slim to none 🥴💀
@@newgmodo5609 you nailed it 👏🏽
That's it in a nutshell. That's what she loved. Money, Power,Respect..
Beloved! Please don't die without JESUS in your heart!
We are ONLY born to fall in love with JESUS then go Home to live with Him forever! NO OTHER REASON!
That is NOT the story we Detroiter s heard.. Barry -- you are a 'lying.. but then again -- it is none of our business...
reality chick- What did u all hear? 🤔 Inquiring minds want to know
@@pairrynwatson4229 Truth is always there-- just have to KNOW IT.. Diana an Barry will never tell the truth.. it is too wrong but they were young and hungry for $$$$$$ --fame and at the cost of much..and they did not THINK or BELIEVE they would have to answer for their choosings... lol--- KARMA is real and GOD see s IT ALL... (( that goes for us all)).....
First of all @reality chick...Being a native Detroiter, you should know Motown's founder's name: It is BERRY GORDY, JR. Not "Barry."......
@@michellekirkendall818 --OK..
WOOOOOWWWW!!!!
Why buy the cow when the milk is free?
How many ppl do u know who DONT sleep with a man b4 marriage? Were u a virgin on ur 💒 night?
SHE refused to marry Him. She just wasn't that into him...
This has nothing to do with MY life. Miss Ross was a scheming wench who was always looking for her main chance no matter who it hurt! She sold out Florence Ballard & Mary Wilson without a second thought. So I think we can disagree without being disagreeable!
You think the milk was free? With Miss Ross, I doubt anything was free! That man spent more money, time, energy, & emotion on Diana Ross than all his wives combined! Diana maybe a lot of things, but low maintenance ain’t one of them!!!
@@newgmodo5609 she’s still a pass-around & she’s burned out. Next lmfaoo 🥴
Oh my god. Please give it a rest. Florence Ballard was responsible for her own life.